June 2, 2025 • 32 mins
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(00:15):
All right, now we're going to get into the recap for And Just
Like That season 3 episode 1. Here's what I'm going to say.
OK, I enjoyed this episode and Ithink, and I was glad to see a
couple of reviews that that sortof confirmed what I was
thinking. You know what?
I didn't hate it either. I really did not want to watch
(00:36):
it. I was not looking forward to it
at all and it was fine it. Felt more like the old Sex in
the City to me. And I think a lot of that had to
do with the fact that they cut down on the characters because
they were thinning out the stories, right?
And they had characters that we just didn't care.
We didn't care about Jay and Nya.
Well, I so wish they had developed that character more.
(00:57):
Yeah, I thought she was so interesting.
She was. And unfortunately, but also too,
we had two, really we had two black women who were like
powerful and very smart and successful.
They should have done a spin offhonestly.
Right. And I feel like they kind of
cancel each other out and then. In the writers room, that
appears to be what happened. Yes.
(01:18):
And so when they when, when Naya, when they cut the
character of Naya, we have more focus on Lisa.
I'm just going to say this, Lisa, to me, Lisa's my favorite
character. OK, I have a question.
Yes. Who?
Wasn't somebody pregnant at the end of last season or was there
a miscarriage? It was Lisa and she had a
miscarriage. She had a miscarriage, yes.
I was very confused when the show opened because I was like,
(01:41):
I could have sworn Lisa was pregnant.
I didn't remember the miscarriage but.
Yeah, she miscarried. I mean, that makes sense.
How are you going to have a pregnancy storyline?
It's going to show about women who were like, menopausal.
So I loved her storyline. But let's start with Carrie and
this palatial glacial apartment that she lives in.
It's how many 4 bedrooms? All these different.
(02:02):
Oh my God. Opening with the alarm system,
I'm calling it now. It's foreshadowing she's going
to get robbed and I am here for it.
OK, something's going to happen.I cannot wait for the burglary
episode. But but I felt that the alarm
was a metaphor, right? Calls coming from inside the
house. I felt that the alarm, the
(02:24):
sensors were a metaphor of what's going on internally.
That's. Like the way the alarm keeps
going off and she's like, no, it's not.
Right. But more like, and I think it
was most obvious with Miranda, you know, Miranda's whole.
And we'll get to that, that story because I actually really
liked that. Loved that story.
I loved it. I loved it and but we'll get to
(02:45):
it. There's something about the
alarm that I feel as though theywere, they were, you know how I
love that Thruway I'm trying to find and I could not find the
theme for this episode. And I felt like the alarm
represented Carrie's attitude towards this relationship with
Aiden, where the alarm's going off and going on and she's
saying, no, it's not the door isn't open, but it's wrong.
(03:07):
Nothing's wrong, but there is something wrong with the alarm
is sounding and she's ignoring it, right?
The alarm is sounding in the form of Anthony and she's
getting mad at it. Right, Anthony.
See, this is what I mean. I feel like they've really,
really developed these characters.
They have a. They have a better handle on
them because they're not writingfor as many.
Right, that's like that's all I needed.
(03:31):
Christ, she's she. They're not talking, They're
writing postcards. Her and Aiden are writing
postcards to each other. Not even.
Not even. Not even with words on them.
I mean, it's the stupidest thing.
And so she goes out. When they're at the bar and
Carrie's like, Aiden said he needed no communication.
What? Right.
What? What?
Listen and I said this in my recap video on TikTok.
(03:53):
I truly believe that Carrie is accepting this arrangement
because Carrie is still punishing herself for cheating
on Aiden still and I think he's still punishing her for choosing
Big over him their. Relationship, definitely.
He made her buy that whole apartment, right?
Could you imagine? An infant.
(04:13):
Because he wouldn't go into her apartment, he still refused to
do it, but that really should have told her he's not over it.
He's literally an infant. He's not over it, Carrie.
He won't even go into your apartment.
He won't even go into your apartment.
I don't know what I mean. Obviously Kerry is not a real
person, but like, what is? What is Kerry thinking trying to
date somebody with kids, period?That's the other thing too.
(04:36):
That's the other thing too. You can't do that right?
You are not OK with being the second.
You're not OK with it, Carrie. You're just not.
You couldn't even stand. Even when you were first in
Big's life, you were still neurotic, right?
Right. I mean, she was obsessed with
his ex-wife. She was obsessed with Natasha.
Right. Yeah, no, right.
She's not. The Carrie Brash is not going to
(04:57):
tolerate children of any age. Correct.
Although she is good with Lily and she's.
Very good with Lily, I love their relationship.
What's Charlotte's on our kids name?
I can't remember Rock. Thank you.
Yeah, Rock. And so she goes out and she's
telling Charlotte and Miranda, and Charlotte's like, oh, a
postcard that's so great. And Miranda is thinking you're
being that excited over a postcard.
But at one point, Miranda says to Carrie, listen, if you're if
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you're happy with it, where's what?
Who? That was huge for Miranda.
Who? Was that was huge for Miranda.
But we don't want to see that. I don't want to see that.
Well, someones got to be the voice of reason, right?
It's not gonna be Sema except for herself, right?
Which is refreshing. Right.
And I love the way they juxtapose those two characters.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
So they go to a lesbian bar withMiranda, and Miranda is still
(05:44):
very awkward. Like, she's still that awkward
person, right? And she so she's still very
awkward, right? And she's at this bar and
they're trying to encourage her and they're being sort of her
wing women. And then someone waves at her
and it turns out to be Brady's old girlfriend and she just
starts trauma dumping. Brady's old babysitter.
Thank you, Brady. Brady's old babysitter.
(06:05):
And she just starts trauma dumping, right.
And it's sort of exposition. She has to let everybody know.
Yeah, we sold the Brown house. Yeah.
We're divorced. So this is what's going on since
two years ago. And it's just so, it's so cringy
because not only does she talk about we sold it and the
divorce, but also I'm in the program.
She's just going and going and going and going.
Yeah. And you're cringing for her and
(06:26):
I. We're just seeing.
She's always, but she's always been like that, right?
Like she's always needed somebody to tell her she was
attractive. She's always needed somebody to
want her. Yeah.
That whole scene struck me as very much in character for her.
Yes, I would agree. So then it's the end of the
night and she's just hanging outat this bar.
And again, I'm thinking, girl just go home.
(06:47):
Yeah. And she sees this woman.
And this woman is in jeans in a in a button down shirt that's
untucked. It's Rosie O'Donnell.
It's Rosie O'Donnell and you cantell right away this woman
doesn't live here. At least I could tell that as
someone who lives there, lives here.
And she and Miranda talk for maybe 2 minutes and she says I
have a hotel room and Miranda's like cool.
(07:09):
And they leave and that to me was shocking, but I'm a straight
woman. I don't know that that's like,
is it different? I, I would assume that it's
different because you don't havethat fear of danger.
It was. Different for them.
It was different for them. So they go back to the hotel
room. They have sex.
They wake up the next morning and this woman, Rosie O'Donnell,
(07:29):
her character named Mary. Mary says, you know, that was
her first time and Miranda's ever.
Yeah, you were a virgin. And she's like, yes.
And on top of that, she's a nun.And so Miranda is talking to
Carrie about it. And that's when they're talking
about the sensors. She's saying, you know, like,
how could I have been so off? Well, I don't know.
Because you talked to her from maybe 18 seconds.
(07:50):
That's that's probably how. And she's telling Carrie that
Mary's texting her and asking her to meet her at Tavern on the
Green for dinner. And Carrie, Oh my God, Tavern on
the Green and Maria. Is very touristy.
Right, she doesn't know that she's she's Carrie's just being
an elitist bitch. PS The money you have, you only
(08:13):
have because of your dead husband.
Let's remember that you're only living in that place because
your husband kicked it after riding the peloton.
You wouldn't. Be living the peloton.
She got rid of it. She got rid of it.
So she's just being such an elitist bitch.
Well, she's always been that wayabout New York.
Yeah, she has. She has.
(08:33):
And so she's, I think talking a little bit more about Aiden and,
you know, telling them that she's happy with it.
Now, part of me thinks she's she's she's comfortable with
this on some level because she'sjust such an avoidant and.
She doesn't actually want to be in a relationship anyway, right?
Like. Kind of perfect, right?
Exactly. She is.
Right. It's emotionally safe for her,
(08:55):
right? And he's unavailable.
And we all know how she feels about unavailable men.
Can I say how weird I thought itwas that she and Aiden were
exchanging I love yous this early?
Why they were engaged? Yeah, but I don't know, it just
struck me as odd. I don't think it's early though,
I think it's several months after they they started dating.
Maybe it is. They didn't really give us a
(09:16):
sense of it. Right.
I think this is a few months in like probably, I don't know, six
months or so. I don't, I don't know.
Something about it rubbed me thewrong way, and maybe that's just
me. You know what it is?
Responding to Aiden's behavior. Right.
But also, they're just a racing big.
Well, yeah, I feel like for someone who was so upset when
(09:36):
Seema accidentally knocked over a picture frame and the glass
broke, suddenly she's like, I love you, Ada.
Right. To me, it'd be she.
It's there. I think they're definitely a
racing big, probably because of,Chris notes, personal problems
with with the accusations of sexual misconduct and sexual
(09:57):
sexual assault, alleged sexual assaults, I'll say.
But they're, they're just erasing him as though she didn't
spend 20 years. Right, chasing him down.
Right. Yeah, My friend's been with her
for 10 years, and then she's finally getting married.
And that's Charlotte. And I think anybody watching
that, even then, we were like, girl, 10 years.
(10:18):
Because that's how I would have been.
I think we all would have been. On a date for 10 years, that's
none of my business. Right.
Listen, I think we'd all be kindof looking away, covering our
eyes like all. Right.
Congrats for you. And so that's what I think is
there's a lot of things bothering us about Aiden, but
that is what I. Mean we're to begin with the
things bothering me about Aiden Bam.
(10:40):
Listen, so they haven't spoken on the phone at all.
They're changing fucking text messages.
He calls her after he's had a few beers and he's sitting
outside in his truck. Yeah, and let's be clear,
because he starts the conversation.
I ache for you. It's so it's so gross.
I hate the scene so much. It gave us all the ick, right?
It gave us all the ick. But what pissed me off about it
(11:02):
is you haven't spoken to her on the phone until you wanted to
jerk off in a truck. That's correct, right?
That's what he was doing. He couldn't be bothered to call
you because until he was horny. He needed no communication.
Right, right. He needed it.
What do you mean? Like dude, are you attached to
this? This kid, this kid has to have a
(11:24):
life of his own, right? I'm very, very confused by what
they think they're doing there with that excuse of a storyline.
It really, it's just stupid. It really is dumb.
But I also think, and I don't understand this, they keep
trying to. Kids.
Mother. Where's Aiden's mother?
No, the kids mother. Well she was in the last season
(11:44):
right? But I think she has to travel a
lot for her job so they live with him and so he tries to have
phone sex with her and she fakesit.
Whatever. Which is totally what she would
do. Right, right, because she's
she's not sexual at all. And this is what I thought was
really interesting. She's out with Charlotte and
Miranda and she tells her, tellsthem that they've she faked it.
(12:06):
And she says, and Miranda says, you know, I've faked it.
She goes, no, you know, our sex life is the most honest.
Our sex is the most honest part of our relationship.
Yeah, that was wow, that wasn't it.
Bomb. That was a bomb.
Because what she's saying is theonly time we're not lying to
each other and ourselves is whenwe're in bed, right?
Right. That that is what she's saying.
(12:27):
Yeah, no, I don't. I mean, we flagged it.
Obviously the audience flagged it, I think, Charlotte said.
Awe again. Right, Charlotte.
Right. Oh gosh.
Charlotte they boy, they just gave Charlotte and Harry nothing
this episode. Yeah, they really did.
Except why is Lily pursuing a 20year old dude?
I don't know how old is Lily. She's still in high school.
Didn't we see her in a uniform in this episode?
(12:50):
Yes. Why is she pursuing A20?
We don't. Know if.
He's 20. Do we know that he's 20?
I I would have to go back and watch it, but I thought Rock
said he was 20. Well, I think she's 17.
Yeah, yeah. No, OK.
Yeah, 20 and 17, I don't. Know I don't care for it.
I'm kind of OK with it, 2017. Three years is obviously not a
(13:10):
large age gap, but having a whole job versus being in high
school, that's a huge age gap. I don't care for it.
Well, no, we don't know that he has a whole, I mean.
He's a ballerina. Dude, he still has to go to
school. Not if he's 20.
Well, OK, Well, we don't know. Like we're judging.
We listen, but we don't judge. Sarah, he's 20.
All right. Well, we'll figure that out.
(13:32):
OK. So she meets up with Carrie,
meets up with Anthony and Giuseppe.
Is that his name? And Anthony says what?
So where's your lumberjack? Oh, he's he's he's out of town.
Oh, for how long? Oh, I don't know.
And Anthony's like what? Of course.
Anthony having been abandoned byhis husband.
Yeah. He's immediately going to be
like, what? What do you mean?
(13:53):
You don't know when he's coming in?
And he just. He's now the new Miranda, right?
Where he he says to to Carrie, listen, I mean, you need to
figure out what is he doing? What do you mean he has to tell
you? What did he say something about?
You know I. Forget, but it was very
reasonable. It was very reasonable, and it
was essentially like, why are you letting this guy dictate how
(14:14):
this relationship is going, right?
And Carrie got mad and not like angry angry, but she got pissy,
whatever. And Giuseppe's like, do you, you
know, maybe don't be yourself So, so more often.
Right Giuseppe's personality is he has a penis.
I listen, but you have to put someone like Giuseppe with a
character like. Anthony, you do.
(14:36):
Because Anthony's so kind of abrasive, right, and in your
face and Giuseppe softens him and brings him like grounds him.
I think. So I like the pairing.
I like the. Pairing too.
They're just talk about giving them nothing to work with.
Right, Well, they will be in future episodes, but we'll get
to that because that's a disaster.
So what happens? So she ends up calling.
(14:57):
Aidan and. And confessing and then trying
to have phone sex with him again.
And turns out Wyatt is sleeping in the bed with what's his name?
Aiden. Aiden.
Yeah, again, what are what is the storyline?
What's going on this? Is normal behavior.
Right, because she's saying, youknow, he needs me.
What do you mean? OK, so he he did something
(15:17):
reckless. He drank because he's struggling
with you guy, you know, with thewith the split.
OK, but why are you acting like he's?
Why are you in bed with him? Like why are you acting like
he's Laura from The Glass Menagerie?
Is that a proper reference? Like she's like, he's so
fragile. I mean it's close, but I don't
have a comparable example for like the weirdness of what it's
(15:41):
just. Weird.
What's going on here, right. What are you saying that is he
in rehab? What's going on?
OK, so he had a bad week. That's I don't.
What do you mean you have to take five years off?
I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Fucking weird. He's just trying to torture her
and they're torturing each other.
Why are you keep trying to get back together?
You're fundamentally incompatible, and I do, I think.
(16:01):
Especially now he has kids. Right.
Complete two different, totally different life's lifestyles.
So she's really frustrated and she goes and she goes to the
laptop and she writes because she's a going to, I guess, write
a fiction novel. In the first line she writes is.
And the woman wondered, what didshe get herself into?
Yeah, OK, you didn't. You didn't get yourself into
(16:22):
anything. You chose this and you could get
yourself out just as quickly, which is what you should be
doing, yeah. How much more fun would this
season be if she was just like embracing her cougar?
Right. Her inner cougar right and just
like dating fun, like kind of dumb younger guys.
Right, Do something, please, please.
So Miranda and Mary keeps tryingto get together with Miranda
(16:47):
again and Miranda finally has toI'm so.
Glad we came back to this. I, I just, I want, I, I don't
think we will, but I want to seemore of Mary because I did move
them together. I did too.
I did too. And this.
Whole thing about like, oh, she's a tourist, OK, embrace.
We were all tour. You bitch.
Right. We were all tourists once.
(17:08):
Because remember, what's her face?
Miranda came from Pennsylvania. She didn't live here.
And Carrie, I think, lived. You lived in Westchester?
Just embrace your sense of wonder and whimsy and like,
enjoy this. Like Miranda should fucking love
a tourist because she would get to be the expert.
Right, right. And we all know she needs to be
the mommy. She needs she.
Needs to be in control. She needs to be the expert.
(17:28):
She needs to know the most. Well, there you go.
Exactly what I loved also too, Ilove that she was a virgin.
I loved that because I think we don't talk enough about
virginity and I don't. I think there's this stigma with
virginity when really women nowadays are being way more
careful. Virginity has become.
That she was a nun and that she is also a lesbian, right?
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And she has no intention, apparently, of not being a nun.
Talking about a complex character, right?
Who pulled this off in the writing room?
Right. Who did this of?
Course, I'm going to, I'm going to find this character in
tearing because my aunt was a nun, right?
And I've, it's never really occurred to me.
I know my uncle was a priest andI know he was gay.
And I always wonder, I wonder ifshe was gay.
(18:12):
But OK, so she was just so endearing.
She wasn't cynical, she wasn't jaded.
And she says, you know. So sincere, she.
Was sincere and it was and I think Miranda saw so much of
herself in Mary in that, oh, she's just figuring it out or
she's just starting to explore it later in life the way I did.
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And I think that's why she was so empathetic to Mary, unlike
Carrie, who's a bitch. And when she asked Miranda to
come back to the room and Miranda says no, she just so
took it. But I love that Miranda thought.
You know, I just, you know, I just don't think that like, this
is going to work out or whatever.
And totally what? And she says, Miranda, I have no
(18:58):
intention of leaving God. Right?
We're married. We're married.
Right? Because Miranda's thinking that
this woman is just so smitten with her.
Yeah. And she might be, but she has.
This is it's not in the forefront, right?
It's not in the forefront of hermind.
Yeah, I do. I like that kind of complexity.
I love it. I really do hope they bring her
back. Great casting too.
(19:19):
I never thought I'd be so excited to see Rosie O'Donnell.
Right. She was perfect.
She was perfect. She played it perfect.
Absolutely perfect, absolutely perfect.
Now I want to talk about Lisa and her OK, she looks great,
phenomenal great. I'm just happy.
I'm just happy to see her. I love the character bring her
back bring hashtag, bring Mary back bring Mary back and not
(19:41):
bring burger back. We're good, so let.
But also, are we never going to see Steve again?
No, they they show him in in thepreview for the season.
So I think. OK.
I didn't see the preview for theseason.
Are we going to see Brady again?Because I really hope.
Not he's in the preview. I want to talk about Lisa and
her husband because that this just pissed me off.
(20:01):
So she's a documentarian. She's pitching this series to
PBS about unsung black heroes, or she calls them Shiros, and
she's preparing for this. Right.
She's preparing for this now. He's running for Comptroller of
the city and. I'm so glad you mentioned that
because is he going to run into Bill, the guy that wanted to be
(20:21):
peed on? Oh, I don't know.
Bring. Him back, Bring him back.
Bring him back. That we're going full circle.
We're going full circle. I want to see John Slattery in
any case. Oh, I didn't even think of that.
In any case, he is his campaign manager.
Is throwing some kind of Bennett, some kind of party?
Whatever, Chauncey and. Chauncey is my new fave.
(20:42):
Right. And she's expected to help out
with this right to make. Her husband appear cool.
Right, right. She's at this pitch meeting and
does this son of a bitch, the husband not call her and she's
like, oh, it must be emergency. Excuse me.
It goes out in the hallway. What are you doing?
Why are you calling me? I'm still this meeting.
Oh, I thought that would have been over by now.
So clear that he as much as we see how supportive he is, he's
(21:06):
still he's not taking it seriously.
And with this thing with Comptroller, it's you can see
that they're expecting her to put her stuff on the back burner
for him and she's like, fuck no,this is my thing.
I am not doing that. This is my top priority and
she's not apologizing for it. And I love it.
I love it. I love that she's a total bitch
(21:26):
to Chauncey until she finds out that he used to work at the
White House because they want her to include Michelle Obama in
her series. And I just, I was so irritated
at the husband because I do lovethis husband.
But at the same time, it just felt like, you, dude, you're not
taking what she does seriously. You almost, you're almost
treating it like it's frivolous.Oh, I thought that would have
been over by now. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're
(21:47):
pairing really for me, just likehighlights, like no matter what
you're, you're still somebody's wife.
Right, right. There's these two.
Incredibly. No matter what you achieve.
There's don't. Talk about his wife.
Accomplished people and their kitchen is to die for.
Oh, my God, Their whole place isto die for.
Yeah. Beautiful.
(22:08):
They're two extremely successfulprofessionals.
But you know, there she is. And she and the other Epic.
And that was it last season. She's getting ready for what's
supposed to be the Met Ball. And she's trying to get ready.
And he wants to give her head right And she's, I think a chair
for this or she's some sort of position in the on this for this
event. And she's trying to get ready.
And he's like a Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama.
(22:30):
And she just finally was like, fine, fine, go ahead.
Like really we're we just see how these men, they're just such
infants in a way, right? He's just such A and I love
Christopher Jackson and I love that they had him saying I could
listen to him saying I could just watch him.
I just think he's so handsome and I.
Harry loved it too. Harry God, right?
(22:51):
Like the white guy, it's the white guy because Lisa and
Herbert, the husband, they're black and he's singing with his
college acapella and there's a very specific vibe, right?
Because a lot of his constituents.
Are more house alums? They're more house alums.
OK, thank you. I thought I heard that in the
song. So there's a very specific vibe
going on and Harry is just ain'tgetting it.
(23:13):
Harry stands up. He's like Whoo and he's twirling
his. Heart at the right place.
His heart's in the right place. But it's not about him.
So Charlotte. Charlotte makes sure he sits
down. Right.
So I don't know what they're going to do with that.
I just, I love that Lisa was a bitch to Chauncey.
Like, yeah, yeah, I did this with, you know, four days.
(23:34):
Right? Exactly.
She's got this. Too, Because Chauncey really is
like trying to make Lisa like anunpaid intern.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
And here she has this big pitch and she was given four days
notice. Do you not think she has
anything better to do? He doesn't.
Right. This is the wife.
This is what we're saying. She's the wife exactly.
Then we have Charlotte and I don't even know what to say.
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Not a lot going on there. Not a lot going on there.
And I couldn't, again, I just couldn't figure out what was the
point of that story, because with everything, there is a, you
know, we've got the alarms and we've got Lisa and the husband.
Like there was a, there was a story there, Miranda and Mary.
And I just felt like, what's thestory here?
There really wasn't one, right? I mean, I mean, obviously it it
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did make me think of you becauseof the dog drama.
Right, I thought of me too. Yeah, I mean, it was a very
funny line when Charlotte walkedinto the doggy daycare and said
my dog Walker doesn't feel trusted.
Because he wasn't right? But did you not think that the
guy at the doggy daycare was thesame guy who was at the pet
store when she brought ElizabethTaylor in?
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I didn't. I didn't notice.
It's not, but I was like, is that the same guy?
Because that would have been such a great callback.
Yeah. I didn't understand.
I didn't understand. Wait, wait.
Because we're talking about at the end of that story was vision
like her vision was. She wasn't wearing her glasses.
We have the senses and the sensors and the vision.
And I'm trying, I'm trying to find what was that theme.
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Oh wait, we haven't got the Seema.
We have not gotten to Seema. OK, Seema has been dating this
guy. He is a famous director.
He's in Egypt and she's getting ready for, you know, probably a
sexy FaceTime. And she hears the the
notification and she clicks on and she's in this sexy lingerie
and it's his assistant. And she's just like, whatever
click by and she lies back in the bed and she lights up and
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I'm thinking, who like we don't,you can't smoke in your
apartment. Well.
And now we know why. Right now we know why.
And I was like, who smokes in bed?
And then the next line was who smokes?
Who still smokes in bed? Yeah, right.
And she burnt her hair, which I didn't get.
Did the actress get a haircut orsomething?
I don't know. I.
Don't even tell, apparently. I could, I couldn't even tell.
So she demands that the the boyfriend come home to New York
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to see her, and he does. And you're feeling so optimistic
and hopeful because compared to Aiden and Carrie, see, this is
what we want, right? Not with Aiden, but in theory,
this is what you want. You want someone who's going to
take that time for you, even though they have this, this
incredible, incredibly big project.
I don't know if this is a hot take or not.
I don't know who that actor is who plays Seema's boyfriend, but
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that's the kind of guy who can have sex on a first date.
Right, correct. That guy.
Correct. So he comes home and they're
going to spend however much timetogether.
He's like, I just have to look at one location.
And so then it clicks with her. He didn't come home to see me.
No, he came home to scout locations.
And so they go scouting locations and he finally finds
one and he's like, this is the one.
This is the apocalyptic whatever.
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And it really was. It was.
It really was. And seems like, you know what?
After they missed their lunch reservation, that was dinner.
She'd missed it. And she says something.
Crammed into this one car. Right.
And she says something about losing herself, right?
It was basically the equivalent of I love you but I love me
more. Right.
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It was. And she was she was saying no,
no, she wanted somebody who was going to make her a priority and
he wasn't a priority to her, right.
And she wasn't going to stand for it.
And you know, she says this to Idon't know how you're being so
calm about this. Well, it's because Carrie is.
Positive was an easy choice. Right.
It was an easy choice for her. It works for her, and she ends
things. And so we see these two
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different women and how they're handling these situations.
And obviously, I think a lot of us were more on more.
I think a lot of us were rootingfor Seema in in this situation
because she says no. She says she has standards, she
has expectations and she's not afraid to draw that line, which
I think is very encouraging because I think, I don't know,
with the exception of Samantha, I don't think any of them, they
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all really lost themselves in their relationships.
Well, J Diaz, we don't even needto talk about, right?
That's that's obvious. Right.
Harry's still a good dude. Harry made him so oh, fish, you
think, oh, he used to be such a great.
He's still a good character, buthe.
I mean, in this season, yeah, they're they're really not doing
a lot for him. No.
Well, last. Last season, too, even.
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Right, I want to, I want to see this, the Harry from the first
season he was in. Where there?
Was this layered? You know he was.
I can't marry you and that wholething.
Right. So.
You know what I what I am appreciating already, though, is
they're really working hard to turn Aiden Shaw into one of the
most hated characters, right to to transform him completely from
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the one that got away to. Stay the.
Aided villains, right? All TV.
He, he, I mean, he's, they're just not doing him any justice.
Well, but we'll go ahead and end.
Up liking it because I don't like them together.
Right, right. I.
Never really did. Right, but I think as time have
we and now that we have distance, we can see how toxic
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their relationship was and how he didn't accept her for who she
was and how it still doesn't, how insecure, how petty he was.
He's still a petty little bitch because that is, he's punishing
her. I firmly believe that.
Well. Kristen, we have to.
We have to talk about that fuck ass hat.
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The Strawberry Shortcake hat, that's what everyone's calling
it. Everyone's calling it the
Strawberry Shortcake Hat. Yeah.
In what? Why?
Well, I obviously clocked it, asdid everyone who watched the
show. I did not realize it was going
to become a cultural touchstone.My husband came home from work
today and said, are you going totalk about the hat?
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And I was like, what hat? He's like, you know, the hat.
And I was like, what hat? He's like you, you know the hat.
I was like, you know the hat. He's like, yeah, we all know the
hat. What is this?
We all know the hat now. Yeah, she's just, I don't know,
I loved her dress in the beginning.
I love that dress, that sheer dress.
Beautiful. I did too, and I really liked
the detail that she was sitting at her desk already wearing
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heels and then we see her run down the stairs as though she
wouldn't wipe out. Right.
But then she wipes out in socks.Well, have you ever walked and
listen that that happens all thetime when you're in socks on the
hardwood floor here, at least here.
But I love that they maintain that they want her to have that
staircase, right, because they need that shot.
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That's sort of an iconic. She comes out, you see the
outfit, she comes down the stairs.
It's still sort of there there. It's still framed very similar,
similarly to her old apartment. I mean the the light in there is
excellent. Right.
Yeah, yes, OK. I just can't wait for the
burglary episode. Hey, it's coming all right
again. If you want to hear our recaps
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I would say at least like 10 lbs.
But I mean, it must have been pulling a little bit.
Yeah, it must have been. I mean, for sure.
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the hat? Absolutely.
I really, really loved the hat in the context of the whole
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scene because did you notice they were walking around outside
where there had just been a commencement ceremony where
students are in mortar board hats, right?
And, and Carrie of course is in that fuck ass hat because God
forbid anyone receive more attention.
Than Carrie. Yes, All right.
Bog witches, warlocks days. Value your time.
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Decenter men, decenter yourself.Anything else?
Wear tasteful hats. Right.
Exactly. All right.
Goodbye.
All right, now we're going to get into the recap for And Just
Like That season 3 episode 1. Here's what I'm going to say.
OK, I enjoyed this episode and Ithink, and I was glad to see a
couple of reviews that that sortof confirmed what I was
thinking. You know what?
I didn't hate it either. I really did not want to watch
(00:36):
it. I was not looking forward to it
at all and it was fine it. Felt more like the old Sex in
the City to me. And I think a lot of that had to
do with the fact that they cut down on the characters because
they were thinning out the stories, right?
And they had characters that we just didn't care.
We didn't care about Jay and Nya.
Well, I so wish they had developed that character more.
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Yeah, I thought she was so interesting.
She was. And unfortunately, but also too,
we had two, really we had two black women who were like
powerful and very smart and successful.
They should have done a spin offhonestly.
Right. And I feel like they kind of
cancel each other out and then. In the writers room, that
appears to be what happened. Yes.
(01:18):
And so when they when, when Naya, when they cut the
character of Naya, we have more focus on Lisa.
I'm just going to say this, Lisa, to me, Lisa's my favorite
character. OK, I have a question.
Yes. Who?
Wasn't somebody pregnant at the end of last season or was there
a miscarriage? It was Lisa and she had a
miscarriage. She had a miscarriage, yes.
I was very confused when the show opened because I was like,
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I could have sworn Lisa was pregnant.
I didn't remember the miscarriage but.
Yeah, she miscarried. I mean, that makes sense.
How are you going to have a pregnancy storyline?
It's going to show about women who were like, menopausal.
So I loved her storyline. But let's start with Carrie and
this palatial glacial apartment that she lives in.
It's how many 4 bedrooms? All these different.
(02:02):
Oh my God. Opening with the alarm system,
I'm calling it now. It's foreshadowing she's going
to get robbed and I am here for it.
OK, something's going to happen.I cannot wait for the burglary
episode. But but I felt that the alarm
was a metaphor, right? Calls coming from inside the
house. I felt that the alarm, the
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sensors were a metaphor of what's going on internally.
That's. Like the way the alarm keeps
going off and she's like, no, it's not.
Right. But more like, and I think it
was most obvious with Miranda, you know, Miranda's whole.
And we'll get to that, that story because I actually really
liked that. Loved that story.
I loved it. I loved it and but we'll get to
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it. There's something about the
alarm that I feel as though theywere, they were, you know how I
love that Thruway I'm trying to find and I could not find the
theme for this episode. And I felt like the alarm
represented Carrie's attitude towards this relationship with
Aiden, where the alarm's going off and going on and she's
saying, no, it's not the door isn't open, but it's wrong.
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Nothing's wrong, but there is something wrong with the alarm
is sounding and she's ignoring it, right?
The alarm is sounding in the form of Anthony and she's
getting mad at it. Right, Anthony.
See, this is what I mean. I feel like they've really,
really developed these characters.
They have a. They have a better handle on
them because they're not writingfor as many.
Right, that's like that's all I needed.
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Christ, she's she. They're not talking, They're
writing postcards. Her and Aiden are writing
postcards to each other. Not even.
Not even. Not even with words on them.
I mean, it's the stupidest thing.
And so she goes out. When they're at the bar and
Carrie's like, Aiden said he needed no communication.
What? Right.
What? What?
Listen and I said this in my recap video on TikTok.
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I truly believe that Carrie is accepting this arrangement
because Carrie is still punishing herself for cheating
on Aiden still and I think he's still punishing her for choosing
Big over him their. Relationship, definitely.
He made her buy that whole apartment, right?
Could you imagine? An infant.
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Because he wouldn't go into her apartment, he still refused to
do it, but that really should have told her he's not over it.
He's literally an infant. He's not over it, Carrie.
He won't even go into your apartment.
He won't even go into your apartment.
I don't know what I mean. Obviously Kerry is not a real
person, but like, what is? What is Kerry thinking trying to
date somebody with kids, period?That's the other thing too.
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That's the other thing too. You can't do that right?
You are not OK with being the second.
You're not OK with it, Carrie. You're just not.
You couldn't even stand. Even when you were first in
Big's life, you were still neurotic, right?
Right. I mean, she was obsessed with
his ex-wife. She was obsessed with Natasha.
Right. Yeah, no, right.
She's not. The Carrie Brash is not going to
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tolerate children of any age. Correct.
Although she is good with Lily and she's.
Very good with Lily, I love their relationship.
What's Charlotte's on our kids name?
I can't remember Rock. Thank you.
Yeah, Rock. And so she goes out and she's
telling Charlotte and Miranda, and Charlotte's like, oh, a
postcard that's so great. And Miranda is thinking you're
being that excited over a postcard.
But at one point, Miranda says to Carrie, listen, if you're if
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you're happy with it, where's what?
Who? That was huge for Miranda.
Who? Was that was huge for Miranda.
But we don't want to see that. I don't want to see that.
Well, someones got to be the voice of reason, right?
It's not gonna be Sema except for herself, right?
Which is refreshing. Right.
And I love the way they juxtapose those two characters.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
So they go to a lesbian bar withMiranda, and Miranda is still
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very awkward. Like, she's still that awkward
person, right? And she so she's still very
awkward, right? And she's at this bar and
they're trying to encourage her and they're being sort of her
wing women. And then someone waves at her
and it turns out to be Brady's old girlfriend and she just
starts trauma dumping. Brady's old babysitter.
Thank you, Brady. Brady's old babysitter.
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And she just starts trauma dumping, right.
And it's sort of exposition. She has to let everybody know.
Yeah, we sold the Brown house. Yeah.
We're divorced. So this is what's going on since
two years ago. And it's just so, it's so cringy
because not only does she talk about we sold it and the
divorce, but also I'm in the program.
She's just going and going and going and going.
Yeah. And you're cringing for her and
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I. We're just seeing.
She's always, but she's always been like that, right?
Like she's always needed somebody to tell her she was
attractive. She's always needed somebody to
want her. Yeah.
That whole scene struck me as very much in character for her.
Yes, I would agree. So then it's the end of the
night and she's just hanging outat this bar.
And again, I'm thinking, girl just go home.
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Yeah. And she sees this woman.
And this woman is in jeans in a in a button down shirt that's
untucked. It's Rosie O'Donnell.
It's Rosie O'Donnell and you cantell right away this woman
doesn't live here. At least I could tell that as
someone who lives there, lives here.
And she and Miranda talk for maybe 2 minutes and she says I
have a hotel room and Miranda's like cool.
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And they leave and that to me was shocking, but I'm a straight
woman. I don't know that that's like,
is it different? I, I would assume that it's
different because you don't havethat fear of danger.
It was. Different for them.
It was different for them. So they go back to the hotel
room. They have sex.
They wake up the next morning and this woman, Rosie O'Donnell,
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her character named Mary. Mary says, you know, that was
her first time and Miranda's ever.
Yeah, you were a virgin. And she's like, yes.
And on top of that, she's a nun.And so Miranda is talking to
Carrie about it. And that's when they're talking
about the sensors. She's saying, you know, like,
how could I have been so off? Well, I don't know.
Because you talked to her from maybe 18 seconds.
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That's that's probably how. And she's telling Carrie that
Mary's texting her and asking her to meet her at Tavern on the
Green for dinner. And Carrie, Oh my God, Tavern on
the Green and Maria. Is very touristy.
Right, she doesn't know that she's she's Carrie's just being
an elitist bitch. PS The money you have, you only
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have because of your dead husband.
Let's remember that you're only living in that place because
your husband kicked it after riding the peloton.
You wouldn't. Be living the peloton.
She got rid of it. She got rid of it.
So she's just being such an elitist bitch.
Well, she's always been that wayabout New York.
Yeah, she has. She has.
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And so she's, I think talking a little bit more about Aiden and,
you know, telling them that she's happy with it.
Now, part of me thinks she's she's she's comfortable with
this on some level because she'sjust such an avoidant and.
She doesn't actually want to be in a relationship anyway, right?
Like. Kind of perfect, right?
Exactly. She is.
Right. It's emotionally safe for her,
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right? And he's unavailable.
And we all know how she feels about unavailable men.
Can I say how weird I thought itwas that she and Aiden were
exchanging I love yous this early?
Why they were engaged? Yeah, but I don't know, it just
struck me as odd. I don't think it's early though,
I think it's several months after they they started dating.
Maybe it is. They didn't really give us a
(09:16):
sense of it. Right.
I think this is a few months in like probably, I don't know, six
months or so. I don't, I don't know.
Something about it rubbed me thewrong way, and maybe that's just
me. You know what it is?
Responding to Aiden's behavior. Right.
But also, they're just a racing big.
Well, yeah, I feel like for someone who was so upset when
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Seema accidentally knocked over a picture frame and the glass
broke, suddenly she's like, I love you, Ada.
Right. To me, it'd be she.
It's there. I think they're definitely a
racing big, probably because of,Chris notes, personal problems
with with the accusations of sexual misconduct and sexual
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sexual assault, alleged sexual assaults, I'll say.
But they're, they're just erasing him as though she didn't
spend 20 years. Right, chasing him down.
Right. Yeah, My friend's been with her
for 10 years, and then she's finally getting married.
And that's Charlotte. And I think anybody watching
that, even then, we were like, girl, 10 years.
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Because that's how I would have been.
I think we all would have been. On a date for 10 years, that's
none of my business. Right.
Listen, I think we'd all be kindof looking away, covering our
eyes like all. Right.
Congrats for you. And so that's what I think is
there's a lot of things bothering us about Aiden, but
that is what I. Mean we're to begin with the
things bothering me about Aiden Bam.
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Listen, so they haven't spoken on the phone at all.
They're changing fucking text messages.
He calls her after he's had a few beers and he's sitting
outside in his truck. Yeah, and let's be clear,
because he starts the conversation.
I ache for you. It's so it's so gross.
I hate the scene so much. It gave us all the ick, right?
It gave us all the ick. But what pissed me off about it
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is you haven't spoken to her on the phone until you wanted to
jerk off in a truck. That's correct, right?
That's what he was doing. He couldn't be bothered to call
you because until he was horny. He needed no communication.
Right, right. He needed it.
What do you mean? Like dude, are you attached to
this? This kid, this kid has to have a
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life of his own, right? I'm very, very confused by what
they think they're doing there with that excuse of a storyline.
It really, it's just stupid. It really is dumb.
But I also think, and I don't understand this, they keep
trying to. Kids.
Mother. Where's Aiden's mother?
No, the kids mother. Well she was in the last season
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right? But I think she has to travel a
lot for her job so they live with him and so he tries to have
phone sex with her and she fakesit.
Whatever. Which is totally what she would
do. Right, right, because she's
she's not sexual at all. And this is what I thought was
really interesting. She's out with Charlotte and
Miranda and she tells her, tellsthem that they've she faked it.
(12:06):
And she says, and Miranda says, you know, I've faked it.
She goes, no, you know, our sex life is the most honest.
Our sex is the most honest part of our relationship.
Yeah, that was wow, that wasn't it.
Bomb. That was a bomb.
Because what she's saying is theonly time we're not lying to
each other and ourselves is whenwe're in bed, right?
Right. That that is what she's saying.
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Yeah, no, I don't. I mean, we flagged it.
Obviously the audience flagged it, I think, Charlotte said.
Awe again. Right, Charlotte.
Right. Oh gosh.
Charlotte they boy, they just gave Charlotte and Harry nothing
this episode. Yeah, they really did.
Except why is Lily pursuing a 20year old dude?
I don't know how old is Lily. She's still in high school.
Didn't we see her in a uniform in this episode?
(12:50):
Yes. Why is she pursuing A20?
We don't. Know if.
He's 20. Do we know that he's 20?
I I would have to go back and watch it, but I thought Rock
said he was 20. Well, I think she's 17.
Yeah, yeah. No, OK.
Yeah, 20 and 17, I don't. Know I don't care for it.
I'm kind of OK with it, 2017. Three years is obviously not a
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large age gap, but having a whole job versus being in high
school, that's a huge age gap. I don't care for it.
Well, no, we don't know that he has a whole, I mean.
He's a ballerina. Dude, he still has to go to
school. Not if he's 20.
Well, OK, Well, we don't know. Like we're judging.
We listen, but we don't judge. Sarah, he's 20.
All right. Well, we'll figure that out.
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OK. So she meets up with Carrie,
meets up with Anthony and Giuseppe.
Is that his name? And Anthony says what?
So where's your lumberjack? Oh, he's he's he's out of town.
Oh, for how long? Oh, I don't know.
And Anthony's like what? Of course.
Anthony having been abandoned byhis husband.
Yeah. He's immediately going to be
like, what? What do you mean?
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You don't know when he's coming in?
And he just. He's now the new Miranda, right?
Where he he says to to Carrie, listen, I mean, you need to
figure out what is he doing? What do you mean he has to tell
you? What did he say something about?
You know I. Forget, but it was very
reasonable. It was very reasonable, and it
was essentially like, why are you letting this guy dictate how
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this relationship is going, right?
And Carrie got mad and not like angry angry, but she got pissy,
whatever. And Giuseppe's like, do you, you
know, maybe don't be yourself So, so more often.
Right Giuseppe's personality is he has a penis.
I listen, but you have to put someone like Giuseppe with a
character like. Anthony, you do.
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Because Anthony's so kind of abrasive, right, and in your
face and Giuseppe softens him and brings him like grounds him.
I think. So I like the pairing.
I like the. Pairing too.
They're just talk about giving them nothing to work with.
Right, Well, they will be in future episodes, but we'll get
to that because that's a disaster.
So what happens? So she ends up calling.
(14:57):
Aidan and. And confessing and then trying
to have phone sex with him again.
And turns out Wyatt is sleeping in the bed with what's his name?
Aiden. Aiden.
Yeah, again, what are what is the storyline?
What's going on this? Is normal behavior.
Right, because she's saying, youknow, he needs me.
What do you mean? OK, so he he did something
(15:17):
reckless. He drank because he's struggling
with you guy, you know, with thewith the split.
OK, but why are you acting like he's?
Why are you in bed with him? Like why are you acting like
he's Laura from The Glass Menagerie?
Is that a proper reference? Like she's like, he's so
fragile. I mean it's close, but I don't
have a comparable example for like the weirdness of what it's
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just. Weird.
What's going on here, right. What are you saying that is he
in rehab? What's going on?
OK, so he had a bad week. That's I don't.
What do you mean you have to take five years off?
I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
Fucking weird. He's just trying to torture her
and they're torturing each other.
Why are you keep trying to get back together?
You're fundamentally incompatible, and I do, I think.
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Especially now he has kids. Right.
Complete two different, totally different life's lifestyles.
So she's really frustrated and she goes and she goes to the
laptop and she writes because she's a going to, I guess, write
a fiction novel. In the first line she writes is.
And the woman wondered, what didshe get herself into?
Yeah, OK, you didn't. You didn't get yourself into
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anything. You chose this and you could get
yourself out just as quickly, which is what you should be
doing, yeah. How much more fun would this
season be if she was just like embracing her cougar?
Right. Her inner cougar right and just
like dating fun, like kind of dumb younger guys.
Right, Do something, please, please.
So Miranda and Mary keeps tryingto get together with Miranda
(16:47):
again and Miranda finally has toI'm so.
Glad we came back to this. I, I just, I want, I, I don't
think we will, but I want to seemore of Mary because I did move
them together. I did too.
I did too. And this.
Whole thing about like, oh, she's a tourist, OK, embrace.
We were all tour. You bitch.
Right. We were all tourists once.
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Because remember, what's her face?
Miranda came from Pennsylvania. She didn't live here.
And Carrie, I think, lived. You lived in Westchester?
Just embrace your sense of wonder and whimsy and like,
enjoy this. Like Miranda should fucking love
a tourist because she would get to be the expert.
Right, right. And we all know she needs to be
the mommy. She needs she.
Needs to be in control. She needs to be the expert.
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She needs to know the most. Well, there you go.
Exactly what I loved also too, Ilove that she was a virgin.
I loved that because I think we don't talk enough about
virginity and I don't. I think there's this stigma with
virginity when really women nowadays are being way more
careful. Virginity has become.
That she was a nun and that she is also a lesbian, right?
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And she has no intention, apparently, of not being a nun.
Talking about a complex character, right?
Who pulled this off in the writing room?
Right. Who did this of?
Course, I'm going to, I'm going to find this character in
tearing because my aunt was a nun, right?
And I've, it's never really occurred to me.
I know my uncle was a priest andI know he was gay.
And I always wonder, I wonder ifshe was gay.
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But OK, so she was just so endearing.
She wasn't cynical, she wasn't jaded.
And she says, you know. So sincere, she.
Was sincere and it was and I think Miranda saw so much of
herself in Mary in that, oh, she's just figuring it out or
she's just starting to explore it later in life the way I did.
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And I think that's why she was so empathetic to Mary, unlike
Carrie, who's a bitch. And when she asked Miranda to
come back to the room and Miranda says no, she just so
took it. But I love that Miranda thought.
You know, I just, you know, I just don't think that like, this
is going to work out or whatever.
And totally what? And she says, Miranda, I have no
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intention of leaving God. Right?
We're married. We're married.
Right? Because Miranda's thinking that
this woman is just so smitten with her.
Yeah. And she might be, but she has.
This is it's not in the forefront, right?
It's not in the forefront of hermind.
Yeah, I do. I like that kind of complexity.
I love it. I really do hope they bring her
back. Great casting too.
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I never thought I'd be so excited to see Rosie O'Donnell.
Right. She was perfect.
She was perfect. She played it perfect.
Absolutely perfect, absolutely perfect.
Now I want to talk about Lisa and her OK, she looks great,
phenomenal great. I'm just happy.
I'm just happy to see her. I love the character bring her
back bring hashtag, bring Mary back bring Mary back and not
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bring burger back. We're good, so let.
But also, are we never going to see Steve again?
No, they they show him in in thepreview for the season.
So I think. OK.
I didn't see the preview for theseason.
Are we going to see Brady again?Because I really hope.
Not he's in the preview. I want to talk about Lisa and
her husband because that this just pissed me off.
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So she's a documentarian. She's pitching this series to
PBS about unsung black heroes, or she calls them Shiros, and
she's preparing for this. Right.
She's preparing for this now. He's running for Comptroller of
the city and. I'm so glad you mentioned that
because is he going to run into Bill, the guy that wanted to be
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peed on? Oh, I don't know.
Bring. Him back, Bring him back.
Bring him back. That we're going full circle.
We're going full circle. I want to see John Slattery in
any case. Oh, I didn't even think of that.
In any case, he is his campaign manager.
Is throwing some kind of Bennett, some kind of party?
Whatever, Chauncey and. Chauncey is my new fave.
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Right. And she's expected to help out
with this right to make. Her husband appear cool.
Right, right. She's at this pitch meeting and
does this son of a bitch, the husband not call her and she's
like, oh, it must be emergency. Excuse me.
It goes out in the hallway. What are you doing?
Why are you calling me? I'm still this meeting.
Oh, I thought that would have been over by now.
So clear that he as much as we see how supportive he is, he's
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still he's not taking it seriously.
And with this thing with Comptroller, it's you can see
that they're expecting her to put her stuff on the back burner
for him and she's like, fuck no,this is my thing.
I am not doing that. This is my top priority and
she's not apologizing for it. And I love it.
I love it. I love that she's a total bitch
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to Chauncey until she finds out that he used to work at the
White House because they want her to include Michelle Obama in
her series. And I just, I was so irritated
at the husband because I do lovethis husband.
But at the same time, it just felt like, you, dude, you're not
taking what she does seriously. You almost, you're almost
treating it like it's frivolous.Oh, I thought that would have
been over by now. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're
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pairing really for me, just likehighlights, like no matter what
you're, you're still somebody's wife.
Right, right. There's these two.
Incredibly. No matter what you achieve.
There's don't. Talk about his wife.
Accomplished people and their kitchen is to die for.
Oh, my God, Their whole place isto die for.
Yeah. Beautiful.
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They're two extremely successfulprofessionals.
But you know, there she is. And she and the other Epic.
And that was it last season. She's getting ready for what's
supposed to be the Met Ball. And she's trying to get ready.
And he wants to give her head right And she's, I think a chair
for this or she's some sort of position in the on this for this
event. And she's trying to get ready.
And he's like a Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama.
(22:30):
And she just finally was like, fine, fine, go ahead.
Like really we're we just see how these men, they're just such
infants in a way, right? He's just such A and I love
Christopher Jackson and I love that they had him saying I could
listen to him saying I could just watch him.
I just think he's so handsome and I.
Harry loved it too. Harry God, right?
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Like the white guy, it's the white guy because Lisa and
Herbert, the husband, they're black and he's singing with his
college acapella and there's a very specific vibe, right?
Because a lot of his constituents.
Are more house alums? They're more house alums.
OK, thank you. I thought I heard that in the
song. So there's a very specific vibe
going on and Harry is just ain'tgetting it.
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Harry stands up. He's like Whoo and he's twirling
his. Heart at the right place.
His heart's in the right place. But it's not about him.
So Charlotte. Charlotte makes sure he sits
down. Right.
So I don't know what they're going to do with that.
I just, I love that Lisa was a bitch to Chauncey.
Like, yeah, yeah, I did this with, you know, four days.
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Right? Exactly.
She's got this. Too, Because Chauncey really is
like trying to make Lisa like anunpaid intern.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
And here she has this big pitch and she was given four days
notice. Do you not think she has
anything better to do? He doesn't.
Right. This is the wife.
This is what we're saying. She's the wife exactly.
Then we have Charlotte and I don't even know what to say.
(23:55):
Not a lot going on there. Not a lot going on there.
And I couldn't, again, I just couldn't figure out what was the
point of that story, because with everything, there is a, you
know, we've got the alarms and we've got Lisa and the husband.
Like there was a, there was a story there, Miranda and Mary.
And I just felt like, what's thestory here?
There really wasn't one, right? I mean, I mean, obviously it it
(24:17):
did make me think of you becauseof the dog drama.
Right, I thought of me too. Yeah, I mean, it was a very
funny line when Charlotte walkedinto the doggy daycare and said
my dog Walker doesn't feel trusted.
Because he wasn't right? But did you not think that the
guy at the doggy daycare was thesame guy who was at the pet
store when she brought ElizabethTaylor in?
(24:37):
I didn't. I didn't notice.
It's not, but I was like, is that the same guy?
Because that would have been such a great callback.
Yeah. I didn't understand.
I didn't understand. Wait, wait.
Because we're talking about at the end of that story was vision
like her vision was. She wasn't wearing her glasses.
We have the senses and the sensors and the vision.
And I'm trying, I'm trying to find what was that theme.
(24:57):
Oh wait, we haven't got the Seema.
We have not gotten to Seema. OK, Seema has been dating this
guy. He is a famous director.
He's in Egypt and she's getting ready for, you know, probably a
sexy FaceTime. And she hears the the
notification and she clicks on and she's in this sexy lingerie
and it's his assistant. And she's just like, whatever
click by and she lies back in the bed and she lights up and
(25:19):
I'm thinking, who like we don't,you can't smoke in your
apartment. Well.
And now we know why. Right now we know why.
And I was like, who smokes in bed?
And then the next line was who smokes?
Who still smokes in bed? Yeah, right.
And she burnt her hair, which I didn't get.
Did the actress get a haircut orsomething?
I don't know. I.
Don't even tell, apparently. I could, I couldn't even tell.
So she demands that the the boyfriend come home to New York
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to see her, and he does. And you're feeling so optimistic
and hopeful because compared to Aiden and Carrie, see, this is
what we want, right? Not with Aiden, but in theory,
this is what you want. You want someone who's going to
take that time for you, even though they have this, this
incredible, incredibly big project.
I don't know if this is a hot take or not.
I don't know who that actor is who plays Seema's boyfriend, but
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that's the kind of guy who can have sex on a first date.
Right, correct. That guy.
Correct. So he comes home and they're
going to spend however much timetogether.
He's like, I just have to look at one location.
And so then it clicks with her. He didn't come home to see me.
No, he came home to scout locations.
And so they go scouting locations and he finally finds
one and he's like, this is the one.
This is the apocalyptic whatever.
(26:26):
And it really was. It was.
It really was. And seems like, you know what?
After they missed their lunch reservation, that was dinner.
She'd missed it. And she says something.
Crammed into this one car. Right.
And she says something about losing herself, right?
It was basically the equivalent of I love you but I love me
more. Right.
(26:47):
It was. And she was she was saying no,
no, she wanted somebody who was going to make her a priority and
he wasn't a priority to her, right.
And she wasn't going to stand for it.
And you know, she says this to Idon't know how you're being so
calm about this. Well, it's because Carrie is.
Positive was an easy choice. Right.
It was an easy choice for her. It works for her, and she ends
things. And so we see these two
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different women and how they're handling these situations.
And obviously, I think a lot of us were more on more.
I think a lot of us were rootingfor Seema in in this situation
because she says no. She says she has standards, she
has expectations and she's not afraid to draw that line, which
I think is very encouraging because I think, I don't know,
with the exception of Samantha, I don't think any of them, they
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all really lost themselves in their relationships.
Well, J Diaz, we don't even needto talk about, right?
That's that's obvious. Right.
Harry's still a good dude. Harry made him so oh, fish, you
think, oh, he used to be such a great.
He's still a good character, buthe.
I mean, in this season, yeah, they're they're really not doing
a lot for him. No.
Well, last. Last season, too, even.
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Right, I want to, I want to see this, the Harry from the first
season he was in. Where there?
Was this layered? You know he was.
I can't marry you and that wholething.
Right. So.
You know what I what I am appreciating already, though, is
they're really working hard to turn Aiden Shaw into one of the
most hated characters, right to to transform him completely from
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the one that got away to. Stay the.
Aided villains, right? All TV.
He, he, I mean, he's, they're just not doing him any justice.
Well, but we'll go ahead and end.
Up liking it because I don't like them together.
Right, right. I.
Never really did. Right, but I think as time have
we and now that we have distance, we can see how toxic
(28:37):
their relationship was and how he didn't accept her for who she
was and how it still doesn't, how insecure, how petty he was.
He's still a petty little bitch because that is, he's punishing
her. I firmly believe that.
Well. Kristen, we have to.
We have to talk about that fuck ass hat.
(28:57):
The Strawberry Shortcake hat, that's what everyone's calling
it. Everyone's calling it the
Strawberry Shortcake Hat. Yeah.
In what? Why?
Well, I obviously clocked it, asdid everyone who watched the
show. I did not realize it was going
to become a cultural touchstone.My husband came home from work
today and said, are you going totalk about the hat?
(29:19):
And I was like, what hat? He's like, you know, the hat.
And I was like, what hat? He's like you, you know the hat.
I was like, you know the hat. He's like, yeah, we all know the
hat. What is this?
We all know the hat now. Yeah, she's just, I don't know,
I loved her dress in the beginning.
I love that dress, that sheer dress.
Beautiful. I did too, and I really liked
the detail that she was sitting at her desk already wearing
(29:42):
heels and then we see her run down the stairs as though she
wouldn't wipe out. Right.
But then she wipes out in socks.Well, have you ever walked and
listen that that happens all thetime when you're in socks on the
hardwood floor here, at least here.
But I love that they maintain that they want her to have that
staircase, right, because they need that shot.
(30:02):
That's sort of an iconic. She comes out, you see the
outfit, she comes down the stairs.
It's still sort of there there. It's still framed very similar,
similarly to her old apartment. I mean the the light in there is
excellent. Right.
Yeah, yes, OK. I just can't wait for the
burglary episode. Hey, it's coming all right
again. If you want to hear our recaps
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of and just like that, make sureyou're a subscriber to the
Patreon, go to patreon.com/datology coach and
make sure to tune into the Worththe Wait episodes because we
talk about just the weight of being a woman.
And I, I feel like we're getting, we're just uncovering
so much and we're learning so much about each other and
ourselves through this process, through this GLP one process and
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how much. Do you think that hat weighed?
I would say at least like 10 lbs.
But I mean, it must have been pulling a little bit.
Yeah, it must have been. I mean, for sure.
All right. Follow us on Instagram at
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Sarah, any final thoughts? Can I say one more thing about
the hat? Absolutely.
I really, really loved the hat in the context of the whole
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scene because did you notice they were walking around outside
where there had just been a commencement ceremony where
students are in mortar board hats, right?
And, and Carrie of course is in that fuck ass hat because God
forbid anyone receive more attention.
Than Carrie. Yes, All right.
Bog witches, warlocks days. Value your time.
(31:50):
Decenter men, decenter yourself.Anything else?
Wear tasteful hats. Right.
Exactly. All right.
Goodbye.
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