All Episodes

December 3, 2025 107 mins

In this episode of X-Examination, Giles sits down with Richard Gration, a Sydney Barrister and Specialist Reserve Legal Officer for the Royal Australian Air Force. With a deep military lineage—his father was the Chief of the Defence Force—Richard brings a unique perspective, having transitioned from training as an Air Force pilot to practicing law at the highest level.


They dive deep into the "Law of War"—the complex framework that governs international conflict. Richard deconstructs the reality behind the headlines, explaining how the UN Security Council operates, the legal definition of an "armed attack" in the age of cyber warfare, and the mechanisms of the International Criminal Court (ICC).


The conversation takes a hard look at the ethics of modern warfare, using the film Eye in the Sky as a case study to explain "collateral damage estimation" and the principle of proportionality. Richard also provides a candid, insider’s view on the Brereton Report, the difficulties of investigating alleged war crimes in Afghanistan, and the legal challenges facing the Australian Defence Force today.


Sponsored Message

This episode of Cross Examination is proudly sponsored by Operational Legal Australia, a veteran-owned law firm operating nationally, providing both legal and non-legal services. With a bias for action, OLA is committed to achieving the best outcomes for clients by delivering timely, cost-effective advice — including fixed pricing solutions so you always know exactly where you stand.


Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction & Richard’s Military Lineage

04:50 – What is a Specialist Reserve Legal Officer?

09:40 – AUKUS, Nuclear Subs & Strategic Alliances

17:00 – How International Law Actually Works (Consent vs. Imposition)

28:00 – The UN Security Council: Sanctions & The Veto Power

36:00 – "Grey Zone" Warfare: Cyber Attacks & Article 51

47:30 – The ICC & Arresting Heads of State (Putin, Netanyahu)

59:00 – The Day-to-Day Role of an ADF Lawyer

01:06:00 – Deconstructing Eye in the Sky: Targeting & Collateral Damage

01:32:00 – The Brereton Report: Investigating War Crimes in Afghanistan

01:41:00 – The Conflict Between Compelled Evidence & Criminal Prosecution

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Are You A Charlotte?

Are You A Charlotte?

In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.