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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's grown?
Oh, these people are all over20.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I don't All these
people over 20.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Are you?
Are you?
Do you count?
When you say grown, you sayingimmature, right.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
When I'm saying grown
, I think it would be, you don't
?
Know, you can't.
So not every.
I mean you would think I wouldsay a majority of people are
mature, but then I know grownfolks who are all the way mature
, so I know it exists, but Iwould say, in this scenario,
grown and mature Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Because I struggle
with knowing what it means to be
grown, knowing what it means tobe an adult.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
when you take and
consider, when you take into
consideration honesty, I can'tspeak for everybody, so let me
give you my example.
Why I say that I left myparents' house at 19 years old.
I never had to go back.
Was I ready?
I don't think I was.
But when I got out that doorand I packed my stuff, because
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of what happened Grown, I wasgrown Yup.
Instance I had to figure it out.
Instance I knew I had to holdon to a job.
Instance I knew I had to findsome of the sleep.
I knew I knew how to find howto eat.
I had to pay my car insurance.
I already started.
All these bills came in my headand I just said oh, I said I
was leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That was that Figure
it out.
You never got in trouble as ayoung man, so you was grown for
those reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Absolutely so I can.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
There's
eight-year-olds.
That's, in some situations,what we say they grown.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But the come on what
you mean?
Doing exactly what I did.
I'm not at eight.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Basically having to.
I know people that theirchildhood was very rough, so you
would say you basically raisedyourself.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We can all I think we
can if we literally all go back
.
I'm sure I mean I grew up acertain way too.
I don't give that as an excuseto crutch on nothing.
Parents they migrated fromHaiti.
Everybody was working when Iwas growing up.
How you grew up?
Neighbors, cousins?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
friends.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's the reality of
my upbringing.
My dad was working all the time, my mom was working all the
time.
So my siblings.
So when you caught ontowhatever you was exposed to, I
still had to know right fromwrong at an early age.
But I still knew if you touchedthe stove while it's hot, I
knew I would get burned.
So I didn't touch the stove,but I know some now my brother
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he got a from the iron his wholelife on.
We grew up in the same household.
I knew that was hot.
Apparently he knew too, but hestill said let me see, did it
anyway?
We're at the hospital.
So that's how I kinda look atthat particular situation.
We just it just happened to betwo different people, but mature
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.
I mean, I get what you'recoming from, but I think our
circumstances were all a littledifferent.
But at 19, I know people intheir 20s who still struggle
with certain things and I can'thold that against them, cause
I'm just like at 19, I had tofigure that out Like that's not
too bad.
But you got more resources,you're more.
You know the life of changeexpenses.
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We have so many things in ourdisposals that back in the day
we didn't have.
I can find things on theinternet and Google how to, how
to do this, how to make money onthis, how to cut grass.
I couldn't do that 10 years agoand say I'm gonna make $20
right now just by cutting someof these grass, knocking on the
door and saying, hey, let me cutyour grass.
You ain't really do them kindof hustles back in the day.
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But I mean, my parents workedhard, so I can't blame.
They were working.
They were providing you got aroof over your head, you good,
that's how I grew up, like hey,and we're gonna give you some
food.
You know what I'm saying.
So when I went to McDonald'sthat was that was like dining in
at a five star restaurant.
I used to like come home fromschool some days and pray my
mama didn't cook so I could havea happy meal.
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Right, it was just like nothingwrong with Haitian food.
But you just like, oh shoot, Ican get chicken, McNuggets and
fries.
Please don't cook.
And I'm waiting for my dad tocome home late and be like she
didn't cook and he know he hadto take us to McDonald's and
bring us back home and he wouldtake it in.
But that was the life.
My mama worked till 11 o'clockmost of my life.
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So when I got from school,there's no mom, right.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And then when I went
to bed.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's when she was
coming home, so you know what
I'm saying.
I don't know if you had that,but the.
Haitians.
Man, they tried man Back in theday, they really tried.
But my older brother, he kindof.
You know, there's a lot ofthings he discussed to me now
and he's in his 40s and I'm likethat was so long ago.
But he, you know, some peoplehold on to certain things and
I'm like I just had to accept itand say this ain't no joke, but
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I'm like that was 20 years ago,like in my mind.
I'm like we should be able tomove forward and he's slowly
gotten better.
But where he's at now he blamesa lot of that on those
experiences back in the day.
So I guess I'm more.
I guess I consider I'm moresensitive to people's feelings
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and what they're going through.
I don't assume everybody tojust make it happen.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Snap your fingers and
you should make it happen.
But John Boyce bumping in ourKelly.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
What are the issues?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Y'all good, I am man,
I'm not a liar either.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, that's what's
up.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I respect that.
No, I respect that yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I feel like for
celebrities.
They go through and they takeon more than we give them credit
for, and when they puttingthemselves out there, when they
making music, sometimes a lot oftimes, we are the reflection of
the music they making, and whenthey hurting or when they in
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pain, we cancel them Like that'snow to me that look, that seems
very unfair how we enjoy allthe good and what they
contribute and then, as soon aswe find something out that we
don't like or maybe theystruggled with or they didn't
get to express, and we just turnour backs on them, and the
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nature of the industry isn'tdesigned to protect them.
So the only people they have isus, and we are the fans and the
followers.
The listeners are a major partof who they are and where they
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even know to be in this world.
That's why a lot of them end upgoing crazy or certain
situations end up happening, andso when I look at our Kelly
situation, I'm like we, weresponsible for a lot of, for a
lot of that.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Cuz a lot of people
you say we but like maybe the
people that knew.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We heard, we heard,
we heard, we heard stuff.
Everybody heard about the leathing every.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But everybody said oh
, everybody's music is not off
there, sometimes their music,like when us should did the
confession.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It was.
We all thought that was true.
No, it's just Jermaine Dupree.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Story that was yeah,
he still get messed from that as
if that was yeah, yeah, it wasa good roll out like it was a
good roll out.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Music is good music
like it's tough.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He is a musical
genius.
I'm not taking away music, itwas just really hard for me to
right, still listen to it.
When I think about them, girl,like I don't know, I'm different
.
Man Like woman is off limits,bro, like I man, he could, he
could have knocked out 10 grandpaul's and I probably would bump
our Kelly.
But because you talking aboutwomen and they're young and I
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feel like they probably didn'tknow, like you said, if they,
maybe they pencil like this, alick man, you can get what you
are.
Kelly, like we said, if yougive you five thousand dollars a
week, no, I see that yeah no,none of that.
I think maybe if the parentswere held accountable to, maybe
it'll be fair game.
You know what I'm saying toyour point, and it was all.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It was something that
was outside of us, because
think about how long it tookbefore the public decided to
talk about it.
It was like no, we don't, wedon't get the, we don't get to
put throw somebody under theroad.
I'm sure but it still took solong before we decided to act
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like we care.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, cuz we like to,
we like them so much, I think
sometimes we're brought up tomine I bit like.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I felt like, until it
played out, some of us didn't
have the resources to even knowwhat's factual right.
You know how we all kind ofgrow up money on business.
If it ain't your household oryour family, you kind of look
the other way.
You know, I'm saying but and Ikind of felt like what, at least
for me, when things startedspeculating, you like what?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Okay, he's the only
one I got caught.
We don't know who else is likethat a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Okay, I know people
who.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Bump like crazy.
Let's, we can listen to anybodyBumping it like crazy.
You don't even know.
Mr Robert, just got caught.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean, we listen
people who glorify killing.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, yeah, I was
gonna say the same thing, yeah,
so like when you said can you?
Here we come, boy real big.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, but like, no, I'm
sick.
Like I want to say like to youknow, when we talked about trip,
how he kind of say he was, hewasn't glorifying it, like
telling people to go do it.
But can you understand as a man,if you, if you put it in a rap,
is like, if you come up on melate night, creeper, I keep that
thing on me?
I might just, but like I guessit depends on how we're saying
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it, like, I think for me as arapper, when people are painting
these pictures, I heard youhear GZ talk about trap or die,
right, and to me it's almostlike and the word trap has
changed so much, and but I'malmost like, did you go trap or
die or did you not like, look atit like man, he did everything
he had to do under hiscircumstance to make it make.
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Yeah, but I guess killingsomeone I hear killing I feel
like I've heard rap, I've heardagainst the music, but I've
never I'm trying to think I'venever really heard no rapper.
That made me feel like, oh, Ineed to go out here and in QQ,
right, we know what's right fromwrong, man, we know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
We know what's right
from wrong you're not gonna go
out there.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You know, you know, I
know, but not every, clearly
not everybody know there's a lotthat you you heard what Tripp
say.
That's real.
For a lot of people these songsbecome the theme music to a
person's life and their actions.
It'll drive you to do some ofthese things and it's also a
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test.
We want to see if they're goingto actually act on these things
.
Let's see if it's is anybodyhome and inside of that body
that's going to know not to dothat.
Somebody, somebody here, yeah,so you, you can listen, you can
enjoy, you can vibe with it.
You're not going to do it, butsomebody else, the, the, the
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vibration will actually drivethem, because what's in you
ain't in them.
Somebody can hear a song andactually go play out the
activities, their environment,their neighborhood, their peers.
It's actually mirroring themusic they listen into.
Then that's you just come.
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That's a direct communicationwith the, the material body.
That's the matter.
You, you're going to walk anddo those exact things.
So you have to be real gratefulwhen you won that it can't
penetrate you.
You can't tell the globe was oranything.
You can't tell y'all anything.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So what about a movie
?
So you apply that to a movie aswell.
When I'm watching extortionlike, for example, with guns and
they, he got to blast everycorner.
Does that go for them too?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
They got to be held
accountable when you're making a
movie.
You want to give you a perfectexample.
Okay, I've porn, I've watchedsome videos and I try to do
exactly what I've seen.
I've seen some movies, man.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I've seen, I've never
.
I tried to do what was there.
I try.
I think every human probablydone.
I mean, most males have beenexposed to porn.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
We all have once upon
a while.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But you now you
probably learn, but you don't
think somebody going to cop achopper.
It could be a simple, that's asmall influence.
I don't think that's as crazy,though you might try something,
because but I don't still, Istill don't see it all the way.
So you're saying a week,somebody who is not as strong in
the mind, whatever they'reconsuming, whether it's
musically or it could be ourvideo, like visually, they will
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reenact it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, and okay,
somebody will.
The statistics show that ifit's out there, somebody will
fall victim to it.
Just like crack make crack.
Not everybody going to do crack, somebody going to do the crack
, somebody going to get hooked.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I would like to know
the percentages on that, though.
No, I thought about doing crack.
No, oh Lord.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Why?
Because when you see people gethooked on it, you like how
could anybody get hooked on thatlittle piece of whatever that
ain't?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Just Google and read
the side effects.
That's all you need.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That wasn't enough.
It's the same thing.
So it went to not want to do.
It is also to have the youresonate with doing it.
So you're thinking about whatyou're not going to do, but you
have to you.
In order to know what you'renot going to do, you have to
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process what it would be to doit.
That's the only way you knowyou're not going to listen.
If something with lick youwanted to you.
You trying to drink all thebottles right now just cause you
see it there.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no.
I've always wanted to trybamboo, right I?
Want to always want to trybamboo right and I haven't yet.
So yes, because I seen it, I do.
I do want to try, but I'vealways wanted to try because I
wanted to know what the flavor,you know how it tastes and not
wrong with that.
Right To see how, where it'sgoing to make me sit and if I'm
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going to let go.
What I really like for that,it's more than just the podcast,
it's the exposure.