September 2, 2023 • 45 mins
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Join us on a fascinating journey as we explore the world of gaming and its intersection with music, featuring Drego Mill. Known for his prowess as a producer and promoter, Drego gives us invaluable insights into the lucrative world of streaming and the potential for artists, gamers, and entertainers to monetize their passions. Imagine, earning up to $250,000 a month just like popular gamer T-Grizzley, even if you're not the top player in the game. Intrigued? Let's power up.
Our discussions delve deeper into the social dynamics of the gaming landscape. Hear about the surprising statistics on how gaming can affect relationships, with 30% of successful relationships being at risk. Drego gets candid about his personal journey of juggling love and gaming. Brace yourself for a revealing discussion on gaming addiction, its power, and how to prioritize your relationships without compromising your love for the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you was just sharing, right, you've been
posting.
I mean, you've always beenposting some clips, but recently
you got, I want to say, moreengagement than the norm from a
different audience that followyou from the producer side or
maybe exposure side.
So what's been going on?
Because I know you in theforefront, I know a lot of
people who talk, that talk, butyou live it Like you're on
(00:20):
Twitch religiously, whether it's, like I said, the confidence
you have from doing hooks andbeats in front of the world,
like I like to let people listenwhen things are complete, but
you go ahead and say I'm goingto create in front of the world,
right?
So that's one thing I want tosee where that confidence comes
from, but also the people thatare reaching out is that you see
(00:41):
more and more people trying toget into the content creating
when it comes to gaming.
Talk about exposure.
You need the exposure.
You got to touch the streets.
You need that streetcredibility.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You need that promotion, and that's what
exposure provides for the peace.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Welcome to the enemy team side.
I'm out here at MIA going on,like I always do, watching
exposure.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Getting hit in the head with that exposure.
Know what it is, them downdollars.
Ray Lowe, number one DJs,number one promoters for show
from Palm Beach.
It's exposed.
That's why it opened up.
Y'all check it out.
You know what I'm saying.
Keep it locked all over thefloor and you are watching
exposure.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Most definitely.
It's crazy because music andgaming they connect in so many
ways.
Long story short, of course Igot a lot of artists that
follows me and rappers and stufflike that.
They always come at me like,how do you do this and how do
you do that?
We're all gamers.
I'm gonna say we're all gamersand we all connect With the
(01:45):
streaming.
The streaming and gaming isjust another source of income.
You know what I'm saying.
So you do it anyway.
Why not do it and get paid anddo it?
You know what I'm saying.
I was told that at the verybeginning and used to do it for
hours in the day.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not gonna lie 10 hoursmaybe sometimes.
And I was told one time fromsomeone yo, you game anyway, why
(02:08):
not just stream it?
You don't know what could comewith it and I did it and income
comes in that way.
You know what I'm saying.
And you can make clips, postthem here, post them there and
make another source of income.
So, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So what is that confidence?
So what made you say, okay, onething to gain, but now let me
record it and let people watch,right?
So was it just were you able tofocus on the bag, and that
allows you to build thatconfidence.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The bag.
When it came to the bag, thatwasn't even a thought.
The confidence we're doing infront of people started in this
actual studio.
I would start from fresh andthere would be at least maybe 15
guys behind me hearing me startfrom fresh and when I put it
together, everybody's goingcrazy because they're seeing my,
they get to see my thoughts inreal life.
(02:53):
So I may be humming it and itcomes into real life.
So that's where it started inthe studio.
And then I liked the pressureof having people watching and
being in presence while I'mdoing it.
So that's where the confidencecame from.
So if someone is pause, it'sdifferent.
But if I have an audience it'sfor some reason it gives me an
(03:15):
ego boost.
Someone gave me a metaphor onetime when I said this live on
stream.
It was like you got that mamaeffect.
He loves when he has anaudience watching him perform
and being good at what he does.
So I thought I was like youknow what?
I grew a confidence to do thislive.
I didn't used to back then.
(03:35):
I used to turn off my camera,couldn't take it at one point,
but I was like forget it, if I'mgoing to do it.
I got to go 100% and do it andfor some reason again, when it's
like 10, 15, maybe 20 peoplewatching me do it, the pressure
is on and it's easier for me tolet it out when I have people
watching me do it.
So that's what actually broughtup the confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And do you see a shift?
Cause I know what you do andI've always heard of it.
Right, it would have comeacross me from watching even
T-Pain, but it seems like whenT-Greaseley talked about how
much money he made by creatinghis own world and putting his
boys on, I saw a lot of rappersor I would say more artists
(04:19):
diving that direction and reallypromote gaming and what they do
.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right Again, like I said, there's gamers inside of
all of us.
Man and I think he was doing itbefore, he was streaming it and
it's either the people.
I think that his team orsomeone that he was doing it
with was saying hey look, I hadmy own, you should create yours
and stream it.
People will watch it.
If you already have a followingbase, I don't care.
(04:44):
You're a rapper, whateveryou're doing, you have a
following base.
You're gonna have a gamingcommunity behind you regardless,
and they're very, very, verycommitted and loyal to your
gaming and your streaming.
When it comes to that base andhe's making 200, 250 a month
(05:07):
Just 250,000?
Yes, a month.
Who T-Greaseley on Twitch?
This is just a streamingsoftware.
The.
Rackle website yeah, he's arapper and that's as a rapper,
just having fun and sitting athome with his friends making 200
, 250 a month.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This is including Do you have to be good.
Okay, so he's good, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So what he's doing, it's called GTA5 RP.
So RP is role play and he'splaying.
He created a character.
It's him, but he's playing as adifferent character in the
world of the city of the game.
So GTA is a huge.
It's right now.
(05:57):
Five is LA.
I think it's LA.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And you can create a player and you can play as a cop
, a medic or a hustler.
You could play characters,roles in the game and then
you're using your voice andinteracting with real life other
people within the city.
So stuff is happening in thecity while you're doing what
you're doing like real life,gotcha.
So it's your role playing.
(06:21):
So, but like right now, howwe're doing this, but we're just
in our own home with ourcharacters pointing, doing this,
doing that with our charactersWelcome around stealing people's
cars but we're role playingwith our voices.
So when I get close enough, youcan hear my voice, like in real
life.
If I'm too far in the housenext door and I'm talking to,
you won't hear me.
Now, if I come through yourdoor and I'm knocking on your
(06:41):
door and we're speaking, that'show the game works.
So he has Thousands andthousands of people watching
them and they're subscribing andthey're donating and All adds
up and then he charges people tobe part of his server.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, that's where I think he's definitely Generating
revenue on charging people,right.
And I also notice he got aYouTube channel where he and
then he repurposes that thatcontent, right, what he's
putting it on his YouTubechannel for you to go watch.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So how do he get a server?
Do everybody get a server?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Um, the game already has all that built in on a PC
side so you can go and purchasea Serving.
You pay monthly on it.
Now again, if your serviceloaded with people, they to come
in and get it.
You know that, pay for it, andI would charge for it to you,
which which you can, becauseyou're creating a whole
community.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So what system?
So is there a system separatefrom the server that Manages the
charging and the fees in the?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
yes, the company that created a game which is called
rockstar.
Yes, it's their servers, and if, when you rent it out, you can
do what you want with inside ofyour server, wow so in.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So in his server he made the rules he makes the
rules.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He creates almost anything like he makes the rules
.
He has a follow-up, so he hasadmins that runs it for him
while he's not there.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But yes, correct so so it's like to 250,000 dollars
a month.
Mm-hmm.
Where is one to learn how toget in these industries?
Like cuz I got, I got kids.
Is there any schools?
And the universities likebecause, this seemed like a
legit thing.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Very legit.
Um, it's actually again allonline on the game.
It's actually self taughtactually to.
It's not really tough it's.
The hard part is to get peopleis To get like if your service
poppin, people's gonna want tobe part of it, like the heart
again if you have a follow base.
The hardest part is is to getPeople to come play in your
(08:50):
server.
So you have a server.
I do not have a GTA server.
People want me to be a.
People want me.
I've played the regularstoryline and played online and
just shoot people up and thenmaybe get out of here.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But which in the way, way, way, way, way, way, way,
way, way, way, way, way way.
That's who you, that's what youdo.
What are?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
you going to just call me a chicken.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, that's what, that's what it looked like to me
.
You punch somebody, you still acar.
What all?
What all can you do on that?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
off.
So gta, the top five things youthink people go on GTA to do.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, so let me let me explain the story side.
The story side is they havethree different care players on
there on the game, which is ablack guy?
There's a regular countryTrella Park, a white guy on
there and there's another richwhite guy that's on there.
So the story side is always thewhat actually creates the game.
People go in and play astoryline and they enjoy the
(09:46):
storyline because it's like amovie and you have to grind up
from the bottom and make a namefor yourself.
You're not really making a namefor yourself, but make some
money for yourself to do whatyou want to do.
Now, the multiplayer side isthe online side.
You have to have internet toplay that.
Now that part.
You create a player.
There's contract jobs that yourun into people within the game
(10:08):
to make money within the game soyou can be a taxi driver.
You can go do a mission wheresomeone tells you hey, we need
you to go rob this bank and thisis how we're going to cut it,
and they set up and within thegame like a storyline, this is
the plan.
You could do this A, b and C.
Which plan do you guys ratherdo?
(10:29):
This is all multiplayer playingwith friends for players.
Now, they already did this.
This is just multiplayer, butyou can do this kind of on our
piece, up to you.
So it's just an open world gamewhere, on multiplayer, where
you just go do contract jobs tomake money for your creative
player, where you level up andcan unlock more stuff for your
(10:50):
player Buy houses, upgrade yourengine in your car, buy cars
that's where they make theirmore money, all their money.
Actually, gta they're alwaysreleasing some type of different
kind of car and you can go andupgrade it, put tires whatever,
so you can also be poor in there.
You can be very poor, but you'renot going to get anything, so
you have to grind from thebottom up.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So there's rich people within the game, correct,
and so they employ a bunch ofpeople.
Like it is tea, is he like herun everything in his server?
Um, like the top dog that or isthere people within his server
(11:39):
more powerful than him?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Um, I think he's the top dog, but the point is you're
getting to interact with tgrizzle and and, again, like,
like, we're having aconversation.
You might he might havesomebody on his server.
That's probably not popular,but he's, he's funny as hell and
he's he's the people that arewatching.
Now you may not be on camera,but again, when you talk, your
(12:03):
player, mouth moves andeverything like that.
You're moving around, you'rehaving a conversation and she's
funny as hell.
So the point is you'reinteracting with each other and
the people that are thousands ofpeople that are watching
they're laughing.
It's like them that peopleactually turn it on could be at
work having on their secondscreen and they hear it and they
may not be watching it, butthey're enjoying it like
everybody else that's actuallywatching it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And I want to say my 10 year old son, he, he,
sometimes he just has it playingon the short instead of just be
playing.
But it's other people playingthe game and I'm like why you
enjoy?
You know, and I'm always askinghow come you enjoy watching
other people play the game?
Why don't you just go play?
But, like you said, he gets adifferent kind of entertainment
from it, from just watching, andI didn't understand it.
(12:43):
But now had you explaining itto me.
It makes a little bit moresense how you don't understand
it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
you watch, you watch sports.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Uh, yeah, um why are you just gonna why?
You just don't go play, becauseI don't play, no more wait,
wait.
When I was playing, I I didn'thave really time to be watching
other people sports.
You, you study film.
When you played, you studiedfilm but I wasn't watching.
I didn't have time because then, when I wasn't studying film,
(13:12):
I'm working out.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, okay, Let me give you an example.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
at least that's my experience you know what I mean,
but I wasn't, and now that I'mnot playing sports anymore, I
have way more time to sit downand watch a game and got nothing
.
That's going on.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh no, I, I 100% get it.
But when people give you anexample, though, you see your
personality.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
you will do freaking great on there Because you're
completely different and whatyou say would get people start
rolling Like you might not thinkthat, but trust me, there are
people just talking Can get themto win like, okay, I'm gonna
turn it, I'm gonna switch it alittle bit.
Okay like I'm a shooter.
I like to play shooter gameswith other people online.
Now, um, I may be Okay, butwhen I go to talk in our region
(13:57):
and all of that, that's whatpeople love.
They might like that and theymight be there just for that.
Some people, because I'm reallyif let's just say I'm really
good at the game, some peoplemight be there, be there just to
watch because I'm really reallygood at the game, because I'm
gonna kick ass and I'm gonna win.
Now, when it comes to the women, some people just like to be
there just just to watch, justto watch.
(14:18):
If you machine may not be goodat the game I'm speaking facts
now, for the game is now, ifthey you know they look good.
There's this that it's just towatch.
Some women are really good atit and look good.
You're gonna get a biggerviewer Bays, you know, I'm
saying, and you're gonna growyour following really easy.
Now, if I'm really good at thegame, I'm always winning and
people know that I'm alwayswinning.
I'm posting clips that I'malways people are gonna come for
(14:40):
because I'm always winning, youknow, I'm saying this is what
are you more interested in thewatchers or the players?
Um, I watch too.
Um, but I all you mean, likebeing good at the game.
I like, I like someone that'sactually really really, really
good at the game, like I have areason.
I have a reason, what that'sthe reason why I'm there.
I want to see him win and winall the time, which which they
(15:01):
always do.
You know I'm saying so.
But just sitting there watchlike all right, she looks good,
but she's not doing nothing towin.
Again, I can't sit there andwatch that.
Now, I love a woman, a female,that looks good and kick ass.
That means in games, videos andand movies, all of it.
I love a female that can kickass.
So a resident evil movie, Imean, I'm into shit like that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So to be successful at this does, do you gotta look
at it like a job?
It almost sounds like.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you got to put the time in and uh, first, First it
starts off like it's not, butthen eventually it's gonna
become a job.
Because I have a friend she wewas just joking around On switch
because you're able to do itjust on your console without
nothing, no camera or nothing.
It started blowing up for herand and because it started
(15:49):
blowing up, she started beingable to Create, uh, get her
equipment, uh, from her viewerbase.
They were donating, they weresubscribing, given um like
currency from their website, andshe was making so much good
money she was able to buyequipment, computer cameras, all
of all of the above.
And then now people can see her, now she has a bigger following
(16:10):
.
You know, zan, right.
So which?
That's how I started my setup.
I didn't have nothing.
Everything started for myviewership.
I didn't have a camera, I wasplaying a scary game and they
all they heard was my voice,that's all they heard and it was
entertained by.
And then I went to go get acamera and I plugged it to that.
Actually someone donated cameraon stream.
They send it to an ad, to my poBox.
(16:30):
All of stuff would be sent totp O box or donate to me and I
go and buy them and I show that.
You know you show the processthat you started from here and
now you got a camera, now yougot a better system, now you got
a pc.
People love that.
They love to see the groundfrom the bottom up.
I'm showing, hey, you're notwasting, I'm not wasting their
money on anything, but themoney's coming.
(16:50):
And I'm showing the process ofme upgrading.
You know saying so, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So, and you didn't always have it all, because I'm
assuming what people going herethey're going to be like oh, I
could make 250 000 a monthplaying a video game, but you
had to definitely get theequipment, the right equipment,
I'm assuming.
Right, you had to do yourresearch.
How did you find out theinformation and know, okay, I
need this console, I need thisUh camera, I need this mic?
Like, how does one research toget themselves ready to put
(17:16):
themselves out there in thegaming world?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
um, definitely pulled it up online and I had actually
helped from other friends thatthat was doing it like.
Let's just say, let's use thisuh quality and audio quality
that we have here right now.
Okay, you could have this likeright now, you could start with
this and still have one viewer,or zero viewers in your channel.
You go to someone else'schannel and their, their quality
(17:39):
and their audio sounds garbageWay bad than yours.
Okay, they have 20 to 25 peoplein their channel.
So sometimes, a lot of thetimes, it really doesn't matter.
But again I went online and Iwas able to see where, um, um,
what uh cameras that gamers, uhstreamers use and what the base
is.
It doesn't have to be a crazycamera, as long as they can see
(18:00):
you 720s.
Great, found that out, um, whenI seen I could do, I do, I can
do it on my console, but theconsole Uh wasn't strong enough
to give it a good quality.
That's when I was like you knowwhat, let me invest into a pc,
which everybody else had a pc onthe side, so they can actually
run a software that can that youcan go live on and have more
(18:21):
quality when it comes to thestreaming and your gameplay.
It looks just like what you seein front of you, but with with
a camera on, with a cameraoverlay over your game.
Hey yeah, it's, it goes from allthe way from the start.
It's, it's a lot.
But again, if you have afollowing, you already got the
money.
Like that you can have someonecome in and set up for you and
(18:42):
it's actually Not that hard.
But as long as you get it withaudio, I think you're a one.
But yeah, yeah, and t-pageshoot, he does.
He's been doing it for thelongest before.
I think he was uh Big in music.
He was doing it for the longestman.
And you know, on twitch theyjust they pay him seven figures
to do 30 hours on in the musiccategory.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, I Enjoy watching him record.
I see some sessions, some adlids or just him harmonizing.
I do enjoy watching therecording process because it he
almost does it so effortlesslyright, he does it anyway like
right, just I mean off the domeand he just you could tell he
ain't really trying and it stillsounds good.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Correct, he does it anyway.
He's like, why not?
Why not just stream it and getmoney for it?
You know what I'm saying.
So he uh, his last, this albumthat's coming out.
Everything was created live oncamera, which is dope.
Do he write man?
That man that's not.
He gets right in front of themic.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He gets on the mic, it's off the dome, it's uh, it's
a bar at a time, sometimes, yes, like a bar at a time format,
and he come up with the, thenext one on the spot, like you.
Mumble it and get it and thenhe'll record himself, do the
next take, yeah, so he'srecording sitting down.
He's very comfortable.
He's recording sitting down,but he, he goes at it, he'll
(20:03):
attack it, then run through theharmonies and ad lips, but he
will.
I seen him stack.
Maybe within 30 minutes canstack a verse and have it ready
to go.
And this sound it's not likethe, I can't say.
Like you know, anybody couldprobably just throw bars out
there, but it still sounds good,like I think that's another
talent, tori lanes, I see him doit Um, and and t-pain's another
one who can still give you ahit.
(20:23):
Uh, but I think when you lookat it you'd like man, they just
give me a verse or it's justthey could say anything and I'm
gonna like it, but it's stillsubstance there.
And and the craft t-pain isjust t-pain man.
And from.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You know, for those clips he's making.
He's from note that whole video.
He's making clips from clips,from clips and, you know,
getting another income fromanother source, another website
or somewhere.
So it sounds easy, but it's not.
If you have character, I thinkit helps.
So, how long you've been doingit, I took it serious in 2017.
I was doing it, but doing itfor Play Play, just for friends
(20:58):
to see me, because friends tosee if they wanted to see what
was going on at the moment.
But yeah, 2017 is when Istarted and I saw that it was
really moving and I wanted tostop a couple of times, but I
was like, forget it.
You know what, since I do themusic and, of course, do the
gaming, I think it woulddefinitely be something that I
would love to continue doing,which I'm still doing.
(21:20):
But yeah, it's dope man, youdon't see nothing else.
It's not a job if you alreadydo it and you enjoy it.
That's how I see it.
I got you it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
No, I got you.
I got a question that mostpeople don't think.
So sometimes I could see on a.
I guess when you have a spouse,they could probably talk junk
like why are you always on thegame?
Why are you just sitting theregaming?
You could be cuddling up withme, or you need to go do this or
do that or do stuff around thehouse.
Does it take a specialindividual to understand the
(21:53):
gaming world?
Do you have to break that downto your partner or does she just
oh, he's gaming right now?
Let me leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Very, very it's, I know.
Let me start from the start.
So, like there's a lot of guys,I'm going to say for the guys
and I speak for a majority ofthem, of course we want to go
get the baddie whatever.
We get them right, but they'llnever let them know until later
on that they're a gamer.
(22:20):
Nobody's going to tell them upfront because if they know, it
may hurt them right there andthen and wait till later to
accept the consequences later.
But you've got to.
It's got to be someone that'salready into gaming or the
person already reallyunderstands, that knows from the
(22:41):
start and understand this iswhat you do to get away when,
when you're being you and you'redoing you, which you know.
I'm in the situation now which,thank God, thank God, she's
good with it, but it's tough,it's not.
It's not a lot of women thatwould accept that.
It's definitely not a lot ofthem.
I want to see a good 80% ofthem.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Is it something you have to disclose?
You feel like you have todisclose?
Offer it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You have to.
You got to let them know off,Is it?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
insecurity.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Nah, I want to say women love quality time, man.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
When you say disclose , like in the beginning, like I
play a game of, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm imagining a person that gained you talking
to a chickie like so it ain'tlike I gained.
And they look like oh no, Ilike it.
I mean, like you don'tunderstand, it can be two, three
hours.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean like OK, you're like you know what I'm
like.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I'm imagining the serious game of dudes they might
have a world where they mayvent to each other, like bro,
we've lost a lot ofrelationships over this.
And then like so I don't knowif this, this may not be a
conversation, and I'm trying tobe the therapist for the game of
guys right now.
Y'all might not have an outletto speak on behalf of y'all love
(24:08):
or what y'all do.
And also, I don't even knowwhere I was going after that,
but I don't know if y'all know.
Hey, you got to disclose you agamer because these women are
walking away.
They say they cool with it, butwe have statistics that may not
(24:32):
be published publicly that saysif you're a male and you game,
your chances of being in asuccessful relationship drops
30%.
I don't know if there's data onthat.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I like how you put that.
That is a fact.
We might need that though.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Because when you see, when you're asking that
question, he was like he thoughtabout it.
So my insecurity sense is oneof I said oh, he processed and
something right now.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, y'all, I was trying to put it in number base,
it's like how you put it.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I want to say more like 80% of them will not accept
Will not, and I say thatbecause you know there's a lot
of content online where you'llsee the dude and I know they do
it for fun, though, but they'llbe playing a video and the woman
will walk in the set and dropher lingerie, put her ass in his
face.
I seen a girl just do ahandstand and put her butt right
(25:30):
in his lap and it was aNintendo tight zone she had on,
but trying to get his attention,and one dude he surround
wrapped himself to the chair, sowhen she came in, she couldn't
do nothing, and I'm like I knowwe joking about it, but I know
it's real for some gamer Likehey, I'm gaming right now.
I'm going to highlight you whenI'm done, boo, and that's why I
was asking.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So here's the thing I'm going to use T Grease.
It also plays it in.
Everybody watches Call of DutyWarzone.
It's a game where there's ahundred and fifty other.
It's a game where there's ahundred and a hundred and forty
five other players outside ofyour team and four players per
team.
So once that starts, there is nopausing the game.
(26:14):
So think about your girl tryingto get your attention and you
cannot pause the game.
And there's the.
Your team is yelling at you Nowguys are screaming at you he's
one shot, Get that guy rightthere, Just shoot him.
And you're over here talking toyour girl arguing your girl or
she's doing what she's doing toget your attention.
There is no pausing and thewomen sometimes do not
(26:36):
understand that.
If they're not gamers, theydon't know that you can't pause
the game and give them the timeright there.
And then now, after the matchis over, I don't know if you
guys seen clips like this onlinewhere the guy walks into the
room, just mess with them withthe headset and the controller
to see if they OK and they runback to the game.
So yeah, they've even playedaround with that.
So this is all real lifesituations Like I.
(26:58):
Want to get your attention, butlet me go for this over here.
You know what I'm saying so.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
now to that point, to what, if?
I think, if you're, if you'resuccessful at it, if she know a
Birkin could come from this hereor the nail that you need, your
nails did I got you here's thatcash app and she, she ain't
worrying about certain things.
Then I think it won't be somuch pressure to see.
I can see that side.
Well, see her time.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Listen.
You won't see her on stream forat least six to eight months
sometimes, unless you're doingsomething an outing or something
like that.
Some people don't even know thesignificant others.
You know partner a lot of thetimes and sometimes the
significant other.
When they're making that kindof bag, they're the manager or
they're the one who's setting upthe events and doing this and
doing that, which is there is abunch of not a bunch, but
(27:43):
there's a couple of bigmillionaire gamers, streamers.
There are the significant other, which is their wife or their
girlfriend taking care of thatstuff for them.
Yeah, yeah.
So, if I can get you the bag,yeah, trust me, you should never
be, should never interrupt it.
I get, you know, I get here andthere, but it's just you know
you?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
you think the bag will keep her quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh yeah, I think, I think it will be very minimal,
like I would think.
So, oh yeah, she can get whatshe want.
Man, you're not you gamingtoday.
At what time?
Okay, bet Lock in.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
There's a schedule when you streaming there's a
schedule, but because you're agamer, you're gonna game outside
of your streaming schedule.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So the bag make women happy.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Bag.
You get a bag anywhere.
It's gonna make the women happy, bro.
It's gonna make them happy Thenwe don't need too much to make
us happy.
We just need a room andwhatever.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Have y'all ever met a woman that didn't have no
worries of the bag?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
That's crazy that it's dead silence in here.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I Because?
No, I know, I know I waswaiting.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I didn't know if it was on the gaming question or
just in general.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That's why I was kind of like Unhappy women that they
may ain't got the bag.
The bag ain't the concern.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I ain't say yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So after you supplying the bag, but you
gaming, you putting in all thesehours and she can get the
material things, we find outvery fast that the supplying of
the bag is only giving yousecurity outside of yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Now hold on, hold on as a streamer or a gamer if I'm
making the bag, I think I havenow me, I have created the time
I have created, I got the bagwhere I can create time for her
and go out and actually splurgeyou know what I'm saying and do
what we really want to do,Because if you're doing this
only as a job, great income.
(29:54):
These guys make 2.3, 5 mils,some of them make 10 mil a year
just gaming, Just gaming.
I will definitely have time todo what I need to do with her.
Most likely.
I think it's easy becauseyou're home.
You're home, man.
And then some of these guys,they don't even, they don't show
nothing outside of theirprivate life.
Some of them do.
(30:15):
They go.
You're going to have the time,man, You're home, I'll
definitely be in the gym, I'lldefinitely.
Hey, go away, it would beenough.
I ain't got a word about workingfor nobody else my schedule
would be so nice I'm telling you, but do you understand their
frustrations?
(30:35):
Yes, you got to, Got to, got to.
I think I would give her three.
It sounds crazy about a goodthree days with her alone.
I mean, you know what I'msaying Like nothing else but
just me and her out the week, ifI'm making that kind of bag,
right?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And I think what everything is about there is a
bound, there's got to be.
I'm not saying the bag iseverything.
I always think you got to havea balance of how you're doing it
and you got to know that otherperson's love language too, man,
if you know it's touched in,you got to focus on the touch.
It might be where's that wordsof affirmation?
Like, everyone's a littledifferent when it comes to it,
but once that person knows orcan tell you, hey, this is what
(31:13):
I need and I need this daily orI need this, then it's up to us
to find that balance, because Ithink we're all unique when it
comes to it.
But I also see it is morechallenging to maneuver out here
without the bag.
I see, because the nicer thingsyou want to do, even if you
take a little trip, you drivetwo hours from here just to duck
(31:33):
off at a hotel and it ain'teven a real, real, real vacation
.
But we just going to get outfor the weekend, even those you
know what I mean the hotel fee,the driving, eating at a nice
restaurant, breakfast and dinner, et cetera, little sightseeing
it's going to cost a little,something, something.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But the bags.
Let me point out a hardsituation right Within the
streaming base.
If you're single, you're good,I'm going to say that.
And then you get in the bagyou're great, you're single.
You're going to have women inyour chat all day, every day.
And they got a thing calledwhisper.
That means they're whispering.
Only it's like they DM you andyou only see it while you're
(32:11):
live.
Now you're going to have womenin your chat.
Yeah, yeah, they DM you.
You see it in the chat.
No one else does.
It's only for your eyes.
Ok, it's only for you and her.
Now, this is it happens, andsometimes it gets a big stream
of trouble.
The program was with Slip.
Yeah, of course, come on Like,call it whisper, but if you're
(32:32):
slipping somewhere, you needsomeone to let you know.
Hey, hey, hey, fix your hat oryour strings messed up, or blah,
blah, blah, you like.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then you got monitors and all of that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'll beat that Again.
It can get you in trouble.
But you got to know again abalance.
And I don't care what you doMusic streaming, whatever it is
For the women, I would saySometimes for the men.
When you I think I saw someonesay that the other day he's a
streamer when you let the worldknow that you are in a
(33:05):
relationship, you're going tolose some following and lose
some following base.
You're going to lose itregardless.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So so, so hold up.
So then there's there's alegitimate, there's multiple
legitimate reasons to not wantto be in a relationship with a
streaming dude.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yes, it's not it's not just the time that you're
contributing to it.
Hmm, then it's also you havingfun.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Then you have your I'm sure your online streaming
family right whereas people thatlike live in other countries
and stuff and y'all like, nowy'all know each other, y'all
cool.
Then you got the whispers andthen now money is coming in.
So you driven, you driven bythat.
Um, I'm just thinking aboutthat and I'm overwhelmed.
(33:59):
I would do it, would, it would.
I would say it will affect myrelationship with the physical
world if all that is going onright there in this chair and
them chairs look comfortable.
My son got a one of them chairs.
I'm like they designed this foryou to never leave out of it.
(34:20):
It got a thing at the bottomwhere you can recline, put your
your legs up, and it got anotherpillow behind the cushion on it
.
It got vents for where I guessif your neck sweating or
something, they want the steam.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
My chair again with my community.
It's a $500 chair.
I wouldn't have never bought a$500 chair.
Yeah, I just sit in, but againit's.
It's one of the bestinvestments for my setup because
it's comfortable, got torecline all of that and it's
again got the arm or everything,but yeah yeah, that's just part
(34:57):
of it.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So have you ever been out and you was thinking about
like is gaming on your heart?
Like you, someone be like man?
I really wish I was justsitting.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Oh yeah, we have plenty of times.
Plenty of times we'll besomewhere and be like man.
I want to go home.
I'm going to go on the game.
We'll be at work.
That's what you're thinking,seriously, depending on the game
that you enjoy.
I was in a situation where I'm astar from the beginning.
I got the bag, but I'm home,right, looking, looking for
(35:36):
something for work.
But I got the bag, everything'staken care of.
When I say everything took careof, I'm going to break it down
for the, for the guys that arein the gaming community.
The house is clean.
Bathroom, dishes, everything.
House is taken care of spotless.
The kid is not out Sleep.
What do you do?
You're a gamer.
(35:56):
You jump on the game.
You do what you need to do.
Now, your girl not home, she'snot home.
She's not home, ok, she's.
She's doing what she needs todo.
She's at school, but you'rehome.
I got the bag, everything'staken care of.
Now comes home, sees what I'mdoing and get upset, but
everything is taken care of.
I didn't, I couldn't understandwhat the issue was, took my
(36:19):
headphone through it against thewall, not once, multiple times,
and try to disable thesituation.
Upset because I'm on the game.
All right Now.
Police got involved.
I'm trying to make a long storyshort.
Police got involved.
The officer said what were youdoing?
I said I was on the game.
What caused the situation?
(36:41):
She threw my headphone againstthe wall and it broke and I got
upset.
I shut the door and it gotcrazy loud.
My son is still knocked out onthe bed, opened the door and
she's hitting on me, going crazy.
So I grabbed her and we went onthe bed, just held her tight on
the bed.
She called the cops and said Iput my hands on her.
(37:01):
All right, the cops came.
She's in all white.
Just to let you know, she's allwhite and this is the person
that's light-skinned.
So if you put your hands on her, you're going to see.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
God.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Cops came, looked, saw nothing was wrong.
She's not hurt.
Where did you get hit?
Can you show Nothing?
Nothing, no, nothing like that.
I said.
If it got crazy like that, Isaid my son is still knocked out
on the bed and throughout thiswhole situation, look, he's
still sleeping.
I said you know what?
I'm going to get up and leave.
That was the situation.
The cop asked me they ran out.
(37:33):
They ran out of records,whatever, like that.
The cop asked me you're a gamer, so what game you was?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
playing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And she's in the other room Upset Getting mad.
I was playing games, so we'rehaving a conversation, we were
laughing and I'm in the livingroom Made it way more worse.
You know what the officer toldme?
This is the main point.
The officer said, man, listen,my wife divorced me because I
was so addicted to Call of Duty.
He said he had days where hecalled out from work, lost
(38:01):
multiple jobs because of thatgame.
He said I am addicted to itstill to now, but I am a police
officer for this day.
He said my vacations is justwhen that game is going to
release and he takes us twoweeks when that game release.
This is a police officer.
The man that's way older thanme said he's lost his job for
(38:24):
one game.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, so it's, and lost his wife, so it's addicted.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, some people, yeah, some people really can't,
can't prioritize their lifebecause of it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
How do you manage?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Um, I got way better at it when I was a teenager,
maybe younger than I was.
I was bad.
I was real stuck on it.
Yes, but going.
You know, being in arelationship, being married, I
had to definitely let you know,had to let it go.
I had to let go a lot of thestuff that I was really into.
You know what I'm saying,because the person I was with
(38:58):
their love language was qualitytime, touch.
You know what I'm saying, sohad to understand that.
Mine's just touch also.
You know what I'm saying.
So, and we had a little kid inthe picture so we had had to
definitely cut that out here andthere.
But when we get an arguments,where am I?
It mounts on the game.
Yes, so it's a getaway.
Yes, it's definitely a getawaything to do for as a gamer.
(39:21):
But yeah, can get you introuble, man, big time.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So you had to prioritize.
Yes step away.
You just prioritize when youplan.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yes, definitely, ok, definitely, but I wasn't
streaming that, I was justgetting.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
OK, Now I hit him up.
He'll be like hey, hey, global,I'm on the game.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm going to call you back, I'm lying, you can't hit
you.
He'll tell you I'm gaming andcool.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
You know what I'm saying.
And even when I get a Twitchalert, like, I think, because I
got the app, because of him, Ithink I get a message or a
notification.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He'll say that I'm lying.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He'll say that he's live.
And sometimes, depending on whatI'm doing, I try to tap in and
see what he got going.
You know what I mean.
It is, it is, it is cool.
It is a cool feature.
You know that's a.
That's a good story, man,that's a good story.
So if you're your son, if hecomes to you at I don't know,
let's say, five years from now,he just say Dad man, I don't
(40:11):
know about college so much, butyou know this gaming thing.
I see you doing it, you looklike you're pretty successful at
it, and I want to follow thatroute.
What would your words be to him?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'll tell him if he's going to do it, you better go
100% with it.
There's no slack, there's nolacking or nothing.
You need to make a schedule.
You need to do a schedulewithin life and then within
scheduling, with the streamingand gaming, all of that.
Now, if you just want a gameand that's it, no, no, you're
not, that's not happening.
You need to go back, go back toschool.
That's not it.
Because I'll tell him now, ifyou're going to do something,
(40:44):
you need to be committed to it,100% to it.
If you feel like that's not it,you need to find what that,
what the next thing is, first,before you leave what you're
doing now.
So, yeah, he's definitely asked.
He's seen me streaming here andthere.
He's not, definitely not intothe streaming, but he does like
the gaming.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
As much as you do.
No, not as much as I do, ok, ok.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
So how is one to be prepared for all of the
additional stresses that comewith gaming, because you talk
about some situations at leastfor me, I never really heard of
any of these situationspersonally, but clearly it's
(41:27):
happening to where the addictiveside I guess, the withdrawal
from life, the prioritizing yourrelationships.
How do you get prepared forthat?
Like?
And we allowing children,because both of my kids, one on
(41:51):
the iPad, the other one he onthe game, but I don't even know
to bring up to their attentionor to address, hey, this might
really affect your personal,your relationship.
We talk about these lovelanguages.
This might damage the languagein which your love communicates
(42:16):
with you and interface with therest of the world.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Can I be honest with you.
They already know Because theyknow what the girls are saying
in school.
You are a man going to do whatthe girl likes If she knows.
They already know because thegirls in school are already
saying they don't like boys atthat game or guys at that game.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
They're already saying it and, like elementary
and middle, they already know.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
That means they already accepted it.
Trust me, they know.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
So the young, the youth, the elementary ones.
They may not know they may notcare, the young girls already
rejecting it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Some of them probably are doing it too, but yes, yes,
they're already rejecting.
Trust me, trust me.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
So if there is a rejection, what is our response?
What is the response from theman in that rejection?
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You're saying like as a gamer or as letting the kid
know I want you to speak onbehalf of the game, the game
community the best you can.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
What is the male gaming community?
Response to the women.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Like I'm just meeting the female or I'm like what do
you?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
mean, I'm stating it like this Very universally and I
want you to speak on behalf ofthe gaming men the best of your
ability the women are rejectingfrom the information you gave us
today.
The women are rejecting theman's relationship with gaming.
(43:56):
What is the men?
What do the men have to sayabout that?
What does your reply to that?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
We accept it.
We accept it.
I'm going to be honest with you.
20% of us men accept it anddon't care what they have to say
about it.
We don't care, we're stillgoing to go after them and we
hope that they accept itregardless.
But the other percentage,they're going to lie and say
(44:26):
they're not and face theconsequences later.
But the ones that don't care,they don't care.
We're still going to go afterthe women anyway and hope that
she accepts and can understandhey, this is part of our love
language and can move on past it.
Gaming is a love language.
I would say yeah, yeah, becauseit's a getaway.
(44:46):
It's definitely a getaway andit just feels like sometimes I
want to say, 30% of the times Icome home, I don't care, I just
get on the computer and we'reall in the chat together and
we're just chopping it up.
It's more than just a podcast,it's just exposure.
So you was just sharing, right, you've been
posting.
I mean, you've always beenposting some clips, but recently
you got, I want to say, moreengagement than the norm from a
different audience that followyou from the producer side or
maybe exposure side.
So what's been going on?
Because I know you in theforefront, I know a lot of
people who talk, that talk, butyou live it Like you're on
(00:20):
Twitch religiously, whether it's, like I said, the confidence
you have from doing hooks andbeats in front of the world,
like I like to let people listenwhen things are complete, but
you go ahead and say I'm goingto create in front of the world,
right?
So that's one thing I want tosee where that confidence comes
from, but also the people thatare reaching out is that you see
(00:41):
more and more people trying toget into the content creating
when it comes to gaming.
Talk about exposure.
You need the exposure.
You got to touch the streets.
You need that streetcredibility.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You need that promotion, and that's what
exposure provides for the peace.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Welcome to the enemy team side.
I'm out here at MIA going on,like I always do, watching
exposure.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Getting hit in the head with that exposure.
Know what it is, them downdollars.
Ray Lowe, number one DJs,number one promoters for show
from Palm Beach.
It's exposed.
That's why it opened up.
Y'all check it out.
You know what I'm saying.
Keep it locked all over thefloor and you are watching
exposure.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Most definitely.
It's crazy because music andgaming they connect in so many
ways.
Long story short, of course Igot a lot of artists that
follows me and rappers and stufflike that.
They always come at me like,how do you do this and how do
you do that?
We're all gamers.
I'm gonna say we're all gamersand we all connect With the
(01:45):
streaming.
The streaming and gaming isjust another source of income.
You know what I'm saying.
So you do it anyway.
Why not do it and get paid anddo it?
You know what I'm saying.
I was told that at the verybeginning and used to do it for
hours in the day.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not gonna lie 10 hoursmaybe sometimes.
And I was told one time fromsomeone yo, you game anyway, why
(02:08):
not just stream it?
You don't know what could comewith it and I did it and income
comes in that way.
You know what I'm saying.
And you can make clips, postthem here, post them there and
make another source of income.
So, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So what is that confidence?
So what made you say, okay, onething to gain, but now let me
record it and let people watch,right?
So was it just were you able tofocus on the bag, and that
allows you to build thatconfidence.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The bag.
When it came to the bag, thatwasn't even a thought.
The confidence we're doing infront of people started in this
actual studio.
I would start from fresh andthere would be at least maybe 15
guys behind me hearing me startfrom fresh and when I put it
together, everybody's goingcrazy because they're seeing my,
they get to see my thoughts inreal life.
(02:53):
So I may be humming it and itcomes into real life.
So that's where it started inthe studio.
And then I liked the pressureof having people watching and
being in presence while I'mdoing it.
So that's where the confidencecame from.
So if someone is pause, it'sdifferent.
But if I have an audience it'sfor some reason it gives me an
(03:15):
ego boost.
Someone gave me a metaphor onetime when I said this live on
stream.
It was like you got that mamaeffect.
He loves when he has anaudience watching him perform
and being good at what he does.
So I thought I was like youknow what?
I grew a confidence to do thislive.
I didn't used to back then.
(03:35):
I used to turn off my camera,couldn't take it at one point,
but I was like forget it, if I'mgoing to do it.
I got to go 100% and do it andfor some reason again, when it's
like 10, 15, maybe 20 peoplewatching me do it, the pressure
is on and it's easier for me tolet it out when I have people
watching me do it.
So that's what actually broughtup the confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And do you see a shift?
Cause I know what you do andI've always heard of it.
Right, it would have comeacross me from watching even
T-Pain, but it seems like whenT-Greaseley talked about how
much money he made by creatinghis own world and putting his
boys on, I saw a lot of rappersor I would say more artists
(04:19):
diving that direction and reallypromote gaming and what they do
.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right Again, like I said, there's gamers inside of
all of us.
Man and I think he was doing itbefore, he was streaming it and
it's either the people.
I think that his team orsomeone that he was doing it
with was saying hey look, I hadmy own, you should create yours
and stream it.
People will watch it.
If you already have a followingbase, I don't care.
(04:44):
You're a rapper, whateveryou're doing, you have a
following base.
You're gonna have a gamingcommunity behind you regardless,
and they're very, very, verycommitted and loyal to your
gaming and your streaming.
When it comes to that base andhe's making 200, 250 a month
(05:07):
Just 250,000?
Yes, a month.
Who T-Greaseley on Twitch?
This is just a streamingsoftware.
The.
Rackle website yeah, he's arapper and that's as a rapper,
just having fun and sitting athome with his friends making 200
, 250 a month.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This is including Do you have to be good.
Okay, so he's good, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So what he's doing, it's called GTA5 RP.
So RP is role play and he'splaying.
He created a character.
It's him, but he's playing as adifferent character in the
world of the city of the game.
So GTA is a huge.
It's right now.
(05:57):
Five is LA.
I think it's LA.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And you can create a player and you can play as a cop
, a medic or a hustler.
You could play characters,roles in the game and then
you're using your voice andinteracting with real life other
people within the city.
So stuff is happening in thecity while you're doing what
you're doing like real life,gotcha.
So it's your role playing.
(06:21):
So, but like right now, howwe're doing this, but we're just
in our own home with ourcharacters pointing, doing this,
doing that with our charactersWelcome around stealing people's
cars but we're role playingwith our voices.
So when I get close enough, youcan hear my voice, like in real
life.
If I'm too far in the housenext door and I'm talking to,
you won't hear me.
Now, if I come through yourdoor and I'm knocking on your
(06:41):
door and we're speaking, that'show the game works.
So he has Thousands andthousands of people watching
them and they're subscribing andthey're donating and All adds
up and then he charges people tobe part of his server.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, that's where I think he's definitely Generating
revenue on charging people,right.
And I also notice he got aYouTube channel where he and
then he repurposes that thatcontent, right, what he's
putting it on his YouTubechannel for you to go watch.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So how do he get a server?
Do everybody get a server?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Um, the game already has all that built in on a PC
side so you can go and purchasea Serving.
You pay monthly on it.
Now again, if your serviceloaded with people, they to come
in and get it.
You know that, pay for it, andI would charge for it to you,
which which you can, becauseyou're creating a whole
community.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So what system?
So is there a system separatefrom the server that Manages the
charging and the fees in the?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
yes, the company that created a game which is called
rockstar.
Yes, it's their servers, and if, when you rent it out, you can
do what you want with inside ofyour server, wow so in.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So in his server he made the rules he makes the
rules.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He creates almost anything like he makes the rules
.
He has a follow-up, so he hasadmins that runs it for him
while he's not there.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But yes, correct so so it's like to 250,000 dollars
a month.
Mm-hmm.
Where is one to learn how toget in these industries?
Like cuz I got, I got kids.
Is there any schools?
And the universities likebecause, this seemed like a
legit thing.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Very legit.
Um, it's actually again allonline on the game.
It's actually self taughtactually to.
It's not really tough it's.
The hard part is to get peopleis To get like if your service
poppin, people's gonna want tobe part of it, like the heart
again if you have a follow base.
The hardest part is is to getPeople to come play in your
(08:50):
server.
So you have a server.
I do not have a GTA server.
People want me to be a.
People want me.
I've played the regularstoryline and played online and
just shoot people up and thenmaybe get out of here.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But which in the way, way, way, way, way, way, way,
way, way, way, way, way way.
That's who you, that's what youdo.
What are?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
you going to just call me a chicken.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, that's what, that's what it looked like to me
.
You punch somebody, you still acar.
What all?
What all can you do on that?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
off.
So gta, the top five things youthink people go on GTA to do.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, so let me let me explain the story side.
The story side is they havethree different care players on
there on the game, which is ablack guy?
There's a regular countryTrella Park, a white guy on
there and there's another richwhite guy that's on there.
So the story side is always thewhat actually creates the game.
People go in and play astoryline and they enjoy the
(09:46):
storyline because it's like amovie and you have to grind up
from the bottom and make a namefor yourself.
You're not really making a namefor yourself, but make some
money for yourself to do whatyou want to do.
Now, the multiplayer side isthe online side.
You have to have internet toplay that.
Now that part.
You create a player.
There's contract jobs that yourun into people within the game
(10:08):
to make money within the game soyou can be a taxi driver.
You can go do a mission wheresomeone tells you hey, we need
you to go rob this bank and thisis how we're going to cut it,
and they set up and within thegame like a storyline, this is
the plan.
You could do this A, b and C.
Which plan do you guys ratherdo?
(10:29):
This is all multiplayer playingwith friends for players.
Now, they already did this.
This is just multiplayer, butyou can do this kind of on our
piece, up to you.
So it's just an open world gamewhere, on multiplayer, where
you just go do contract jobs tomake money for your creative
player, where you level up andcan unlock more stuff for your
(10:50):
player Buy houses, upgrade yourengine in your car, buy cars
that's where they make theirmore money, all their money.
Actually, gta they're alwaysreleasing some type of different
kind of car and you can go andupgrade it, put tires whatever,
so you can also be poor in there.
You can be very poor, but you'renot going to get anything, so
you have to grind from thebottom up.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So there's rich people within the game, correct,
and so they employ a bunch ofpeople.
Like it is tea, is he like herun everything in his server?
Um, like the top dog that or isthere people within his server
(11:39):
more powerful than him?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Um, I think he's the top dog, but the point is you're
getting to interact with tgrizzle and and, again, like,
like, we're having aconversation.
You might he might havesomebody on his server.
That's probably not popular,but he's, he's funny as hell and
he's he's the people that arewatching.
Now you may not be on camera,but again, when you talk, your
(12:03):
player, mouth moves andeverything like that.
You're moving around, you'rehaving a conversation and she's
funny as hell.
So the point is you'reinteracting with each other and
the people that are thousands ofpeople that are watching
they're laughing.
It's like them that peopleactually turn it on could be at
work having on their secondscreen and they hear it and they
may not be watching it, butthey're enjoying it like
everybody else that's actuallywatching it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And I want to say my 10 year old son, he, he,
sometimes he just has it playingon the short instead of just be
playing.
But it's other people playingthe game and I'm like why you
enjoy?
You know, and I'm always askinghow come you enjoy watching
other people play the game?
Why don't you just go play?
But, like you said, he gets adifferent kind of entertainment
from it, from just watching, andI didn't understand it.
(12:43):
But now had you explaining itto me.
It makes a little bit moresense how you don't understand
it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
you watch, you watch sports.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Uh, yeah, um why are you just gonna why?
You just don't go play, becauseI don't play, no more wait,
wait.
When I was playing, I I didn'thave really time to be watching
other people sports.
You, you study film.
When you played, you studiedfilm but I wasn't watching.
I didn't have time because then, when I wasn't studying film,
(13:12):
I'm working out.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, okay, Let me give you an example.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
at least that's my experience you know what I mean,
but I wasn't, and now that I'mnot playing sports anymore, I
have way more time to sit downand watch a game and got nothing
.
That's going on.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Oh no, I, I 100% get it.
But when people give you anexample, though, you see your
personality.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
you will do freaking great on there Because you're
completely different and whatyou say would get people start
rolling Like you might not thinkthat, but trust me, there are
people just talking Can get themto win like, okay, I'm gonna
turn it, I'm gonna switch it alittle bit.
Okay like I'm a shooter.
I like to play shooter gameswith other people online.
Now, um, I may be Okay, butwhen I go to talk in our region
(13:57):
and all of that, that's whatpeople love.
They might like that and theymight be there just for that.
Some people, because I'm reallyif let's just say I'm really
good at the game, some peoplemight be there, be there just to
watch because I'm really reallygood at the game, because I'm
gonna kick ass and I'm gonna win.
Now, when it comes to the women, some people just like to be
there just just to watch, justto watch.
(14:18):
If you machine may not be goodat the game I'm speaking facts
now, for the game is now, ifthey you know they look good.
There's this that it's just towatch.
Some women are really good atit and look good.
You're gonna get a biggerviewer Bays, you know, I'm
saying, and you're gonna growyour following really easy.
Now, if I'm really good at thegame, I'm always winning and
people know that I'm alwayswinning.
I'm posting clips that I'malways people are gonna come for
(14:40):
because I'm always winning, youknow, I'm saying this is what
are you more interested in thewatchers or the players?
Um, I watch too.
Um, but I all you mean, likebeing good at the game.
I like, I like someone that'sactually really really, really
good at the game, like I have areason.
I have a reason, what that'sthe reason why I'm there.
I want to see him win and winall the time, which which they
(15:01):
always do.
You know I'm saying so.
But just sitting there watchlike all right, she looks good,
but she's not doing nothing towin.
Again, I can't sit there andwatch that.
Now, I love a woman, a female,that looks good and kick ass.
That means in games, videos andand movies, all of it.
I love a female that can kickass.
So a resident evil movie, Imean, I'm into shit like that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So to be successful at this does, do you gotta look
at it like a job?
It almost sounds like.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you got to put the time in and uh, first, First it
starts off like it's not, butthen eventually it's gonna
become a job.
Because I have a friend she wewas just joking around On switch
because you're able to do itjust on your console without
nothing, no camera or nothing.
It started blowing up for herand and because it started
(15:49):
blowing up, she started beingable to Create, uh, get her
equipment, uh, from her viewerbase.
They were donating, they weresubscribing, given um like
currency from their website, andshe was making so much good
money she was able to buyequipment, computer cameras, all
of all of the above.
And then now people can see her, now she has a bigger following
(16:10):
.
You know, zan, right.
So which?
That's how I started my setup.
I didn't have nothing.
Everything started for myviewership.
I didn't have a camera, I wasplaying a scary game and they
all they heard was my voice,that's all they heard and it was
entertained by.
And then I went to go get acamera and I plugged it to that.
Actually someone donated cameraon stream.
They send it to an ad, to my poBox.
(16:30):
All of stuff would be sent totp O box or donate to me and I
go and buy them and I show that.
You know you show the processthat you started from here and
now you got a camera, now yougot a better system, now you got
a pc.
People love that.
They love to see the groundfrom the bottom up.
I'm showing, hey, you're notwasting, I'm not wasting their
money on anything, but themoney's coming.
(16:50):
And I'm showing the process ofme upgrading.
You know saying so, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So, and you didn't always have it all, because I'm
assuming what people going herethey're going to be like oh, I
could make 250 000 a monthplaying a video game, but you
had to definitely get theequipment, the right equipment,
I'm assuming.
Right, you had to do yourresearch.
How did you find out theinformation and know, okay, I
need this console, I need thisUh camera, I need this mic?
Like, how does one research toget themselves ready to put
(17:16):
themselves out there in thegaming world?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
um, definitely pulled it up online and I had actually
helped from other friends thatthat was doing it like.
Let's just say, let's use thisuh quality and audio quality
that we have here right now.
Okay, you could have this likeright now, you could start with
this and still have one viewer,or zero viewers in your channel.
You go to someone else'schannel and their, their quality
(17:39):
and their audio sounds garbageWay bad than yours.
Okay, they have 20 to 25 peoplein their channel.
So sometimes, a lot of thetimes, it really doesn't matter.
But again I went online and Iwas able to see where, um, um,
what uh cameras that gamers, uhstreamers use and what the base
is.
It doesn't have to be a crazycamera, as long as they can see
(18:00):
you 720s.
Great, found that out, um, whenI seen I could do, I do, I can
do it on my console, but theconsole Uh wasn't strong enough
to give it a good quality.
That's when I was like you knowwhat, let me invest into a pc,
which everybody else had a pc onthe side, so they can actually
run a software that can that youcan go live on and have more
(18:21):
quality when it comes to thestreaming and your gameplay.
It looks just like what you seein front of you, but with with
a camera on, with a cameraoverlay over your game.
Hey yeah, it's, it goes from allthe way from the start.
It's, it's a lot.
But again, if you have afollowing, you already got the
money.
Like that you can have someonecome in and set up for you and
(18:42):
it's actually Not that hard.
But as long as you get it withaudio, I think you're a one.
But yeah, yeah, and t-pageshoot, he does.
He's been doing it for thelongest before.
I think he was uh Big in music.
He was doing it for the longestman.
And you know, on twitch theyjust they pay him seven figures
to do 30 hours on in the musiccategory.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, I Enjoy watching him record.
I see some sessions, some adlids or just him harmonizing.
I do enjoy watching therecording process because it he
almost does it so effortlesslyright, he does it anyway like
right, just I mean off the domeand he just you could tell he
ain't really trying and it stillsounds good.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Correct, he does it anyway.
He's like, why not?
Why not just stream it and getmoney for it?
You know what I'm saying.
So he uh, his last, this albumthat's coming out.
Everything was created live oncamera, which is dope.
Do he write man?
That man that's not.
He gets right in front of themic.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He gets on the mic, it's off the dome, it's uh, it's
a bar at a time, sometimes, yes, like a bar at a time format,
and he come up with the, thenext one on the spot, like you.
Mumble it and get it and thenhe'll record himself, do the
next take, yeah, so he'srecording sitting down.
He's very comfortable.
He's recording sitting down,but he, he goes at it, he'll
(20:03):
attack it, then run through theharmonies and ad lips, but he
will.
I seen him stack.
Maybe within 30 minutes canstack a verse and have it ready
to go.
And this sound it's not likethe, I can't say.
Like you know, anybody couldprobably just throw bars out
there, but it still sounds good,like I think that's another
talent, tori lanes, I see him doit Um, and and t-pain's another
one who can still give you ahit.
(20:23):
Uh, but I think when you lookat it you'd like man, they just
give me a verse or it's justthey could say anything and I'm
gonna like it, but it's stillsubstance there.
And and the craft t-pain isjust t-pain man.
And from.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You know, for those clips he's making.
He's from note that whole video.
He's making clips from clips,from clips and, you know,
getting another income fromanother source, another website
or somewhere.
So it sounds easy, but it's not.
If you have character, I thinkit helps.
So, how long you've been doingit, I took it serious in 2017.
I was doing it, but doing itfor Play Play, just for friends
(20:58):
to see me, because friends tosee if they wanted to see what
was going on at the moment.
But yeah, 2017 is when Istarted and I saw that it was
really moving and I wanted tostop a couple of times, but I
was like, forget it.
You know what, since I do themusic and, of course, do the
gaming, I think it woulddefinitely be something that I
would love to continue doing,which I'm still doing.
(21:20):
But yeah, it's dope man, youdon't see nothing else.
It's not a job if you alreadydo it and you enjoy it.
That's how I see it.
I got you it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
No, I got you.
I got a question that mostpeople don't think.
So sometimes I could see on a.
I guess when you have a spouse,they could probably talk junk
like why are you always on thegame?
Why are you just sitting theregaming?
You could be cuddling up withme, or you need to go do this or
do that or do stuff around thehouse.
Does it take a specialindividual to understand the
(21:53):
gaming world?
Do you have to break that downto your partner or does she just
oh, he's gaming right now?
Let me leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Very, very it's, I know.
Let me start from the start.
So, like there's a lot of guys,I'm going to say for the guys
and I speak for a majority ofthem, of course we want to go
get the baddie whatever.
We get them right, but they'llnever let them know until later
on that they're a gamer.
(22:20):
Nobody's going to tell them upfront because if they know, it
may hurt them right there andthen and wait till later to
accept the consequences later.
But you've got to.
It's got to be someone that'salready into gaming or the
person already reallyunderstands, that knows from the
(22:41):
start and understand this iswhat you do to get away when,
when you're being you and you'redoing you, which you know.
I'm in the situation now which,thank God, thank God, she's
good with it, but it's tough,it's not.
It's not a lot of women thatwould accept that.
It's definitely not a lot ofthem.
I want to see a good 80% ofthem.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Is it something you have to disclose?
You feel like you have todisclose?
Offer it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You have to.
You got to let them know off,Is it?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
insecurity.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Nah, I want to say women love quality time, man.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
When you say disclose , like in the beginning, like I
play a game of, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm imagining a person that gained you talking
to a chickie like so it ain'tlike I gained.
And they look like oh no, Ilike it.
I mean, like you don'tunderstand, it can be two, three
hours.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean like OK, you're like you know what I'm
like.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I'm imagining the serious game of dudes they might
have a world where they mayvent to each other, like bro,
we've lost a lot ofrelationships over this.
And then like so I don't knowif this, this may not be a
conversation, and I'm trying tobe the therapist for the game of
guys right now.
Y'all might not have an outletto speak on behalf of y'all love
(24:08):
or what y'all do.
And also, I don't even knowwhere I was going after that,
but I don't know if y'all know.
Hey, you got to disclose you agamer because these women are
walking away.
They say they cool with it, butwe have statistics that may not
(24:32):
be published publicly that saysif you're a male and you game,
your chances of being in asuccessful relationship drops
30%.
I don't know if there's data onthat.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I like how you put that.
That is a fact.
We might need that though.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Because when you see, when you're asking that
question, he was like he thoughtabout it.
So my insecurity sense is oneof I said oh, he processed and
something right now.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, y'all, I was trying to put it in number base,
it's like how you put it.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I want to say more like 80% of them will not accept
Will not, and I say thatbecause you know there's a lot
of content online where you'llsee the dude and I know they do
it for fun, though, but they'llbe playing a video and the woman
will walk in the set and dropher lingerie, put her ass in his
face.
I seen a girl just do ahandstand and put her butt right
(25:30):
in his lap and it was aNintendo tight zone she had on,
but trying to get his attention,and one dude he surround
wrapped himself to the chair, sowhen she came in, she couldn't
do nothing, and I'm like I knowwe joking about it, but I know
it's real for some gamer Likehey, I'm gaming right now.
I'm going to highlight you whenI'm done, boo, and that's why I
was asking.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So here's the thing I'm going to use T Grease.
It also plays it in.
Everybody watches Call of DutyWarzone.
It's a game where there's ahundred and fifty other.
It's a game where there's ahundred and a hundred and forty
five other players outside ofyour team and four players per
team.
So once that starts, there is nopausing the game.
(26:14):
So think about your girl tryingto get your attention and you
cannot pause the game.
And there's the.
Your team is yelling at you Nowguys are screaming at you he's
one shot, Get that guy rightthere, Just shoot him.
And you're over here talking toyour girl arguing your girl or
she's doing what she's doing toget your attention.
There is no pausing and thewomen sometimes do not
(26:36):
understand that.
If they're not gamers, theydon't know that you can't pause
the game and give them the timeright there.
And then now, after the matchis over, I don't know if you
guys seen clips like this onlinewhere the guy walks into the
room, just mess with them withthe headset and the controller
to see if they OK and they runback to the game.
So yeah, they've even playedaround with that.
So this is all real lifesituations Like I.
(26:58):
Want to get your attention, butlet me go for this over here.
You know what I'm saying so.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
now to that point, to what, if?
I think, if you're, if you'resuccessful at it, if she know a
Birkin could come from this hereor the nail that you need, your
nails did I got you here's thatcash app and she, she ain't
worrying about certain things.
Then I think it won't be somuch pressure to see.
I can see that side.
Well, see her time.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Listen.
You won't see her on stream forat least six to eight months
sometimes, unless you're doingsomething an outing or something
like that.
Some people don't even know thesignificant others.
You know partner a lot of thetimes and sometimes the
significant other.
When they're making that kindof bag, they're the manager or
they're the one who's setting upthe events and doing this and
doing that, which is there is abunch of not a bunch, but
(27:43):
there's a couple of bigmillionaire gamers, streamers.
There are the significant other, which is their wife or their
girlfriend taking care of thatstuff for them.
Yeah, yeah.
So, if I can get you the bag,yeah, trust me, you should never
be, should never interrupt it.
I get, you know, I get here andthere, but it's just you know
you?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
you think the bag will keep her quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh yeah, I think, I think it will be very minimal,
like I would think.
So, oh yeah, she can get whatshe want.
Man, you're not you gamingtoday.
At what time?
Okay, bet Lock in.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
There's a schedule when you streaming there's a
schedule, but because you're agamer, you're gonna game outside
of your streaming schedule.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So the bag make women happy.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Bag.
You get a bag anywhere.
It's gonna make the women happy, bro.
It's gonna make them happy Thenwe don't need too much to make
us happy.
We just need a room andwhatever.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Have y'all ever met a woman that didn't have no
worries of the bag?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
That's crazy that it's dead silence in here.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I Because?
No, I know, I know I waswaiting.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I didn't know if it was on the gaming question or
just in general.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That's why I was kind of like Unhappy women that they
may ain't got the bag.
The bag ain't the concern.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I ain't say yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So after you supplying the bag, but you
gaming, you putting in all thesehours and she can get the
material things, we find outvery fast that the supplying of
the bag is only giving yousecurity outside of yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Now hold on, hold on as a streamer or a gamer if I'm
making the bag, I think I havenow me, I have created the time
I have created, I got the bagwhere I can create time for her
and go out and actually splurgeyou know what I'm saying and do
what we really want to do,Because if you're doing this
only as a job, great income.
(29:54):
These guys make 2.3, 5 mils,some of them make 10 mil a year
just gaming, Just gaming.
I will definitely have time todo what I need to do with her.
Most likely.
I think it's easy becauseyou're home.
You're home, man.
And then some of these guys,they don't even, they don't show
nothing outside of theirprivate life.
Some of them do.
(30:15):
They go.
You're going to have the time,man, You're home, I'll
definitely be in the gym, I'lldefinitely.
Hey, go away, it would beenough.
I ain't got a word about workingfor nobody else my schedule
would be so nice I'm telling you, but do you understand their
frustrations?
(30:35):
Yes, you got to, Got to, got to.
I think I would give her three.
It sounds crazy about a goodthree days with her alone.
I mean, you know what I'msaying Like nothing else but
just me and her out the week, ifI'm making that kind of bag,
right?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And I think what everything is about there is a
bound, there's got to be.
I'm not saying the bag iseverything.
I always think you got to havea balance of how you're doing it
and you got to know that otherperson's love language too, man,
if you know it's touched in,you got to focus on the touch.
It might be where's that wordsof affirmation?
Like, everyone's a littledifferent when it comes to it,
but once that person knows orcan tell you, hey, this is what
(31:13):
I need and I need this daily orI need this, then it's up to us
to find that balance, because Ithink we're all unique when it
comes to it.
But I also see it is morechallenging to maneuver out here
without the bag.
I see, because the nicer thingsyou want to do, even if you
take a little trip, you drivetwo hours from here just to duck
(31:33):
off at a hotel and it ain'teven a real, real, real vacation
.
But we just going to get outfor the weekend, even those you
know what I mean the hotel fee,the driving, eating at a nice
restaurant, breakfast and dinner, et cetera, little sightseeing
it's going to cost a little,something, something.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But the bags.
Let me point out a hardsituation right Within the
streaming base.
If you're single, you're good,I'm going to say that.
And then you get in the bagyou're great, you're single.
You're going to have women inyour chat all day, every day.
And they got a thing calledwhisper.
That means they're whispering.
Only it's like they DM you andyou only see it while you're
(32:11):
live.
Now you're going to have womenin your chat.
Yeah, yeah, they DM you.
You see it in the chat.
No one else does.
It's only for your eyes.
Ok, it's only for you and her.
Now, this is it happens, andsometimes it gets a big stream
of trouble.
The program was with Slip.
Yeah, of course, come on Like,call it whisper, but if you're
(32:32):
slipping somewhere, you needsomeone to let you know.
Hey, hey, hey, fix your hat oryour strings messed up, or blah,
blah, blah, you like.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then you got monitors and all of that.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'll beat that Again.
It can get you in trouble.
But you got to know again abalance.
And I don't care what you doMusic streaming, whatever it is
For the women, I would saySometimes for the men.
When you I think I saw someonesay that the other day he's a
streamer when you let the worldknow that you are in a
(33:05):
relationship, you're going tolose some following and lose
some following base.
You're going to lose itregardless.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So so, so hold up.
So then there's there's alegitimate, there's multiple
legitimate reasons to not wantto be in a relationship with a
streaming dude.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yes, it's not it's not just the time that you're
contributing to it.
Hmm, then it's also you havingfun.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Then you have your I'm sure your online streaming
family right whereas people thatlike live in other countries
and stuff and y'all like, nowy'all know each other, y'all
cool.
Then you got the whispers andthen now money is coming in.
So you driven, you driven bythat.
Um, I'm just thinking aboutthat and I'm overwhelmed.
(33:59):
I would do it, would, it would.
I would say it will affect myrelationship with the physical
world if all that is going onright there in this chair and
them chairs look comfortable.
My son got a one of them chairs.
I'm like they designed this foryou to never leave out of it.
(34:20):
It got a thing at the bottomwhere you can recline, put your
your legs up, and it got anotherpillow behind the cushion on it
.
It got vents for where I guessif your neck sweating or
something, they want the steam.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
My chair again with my community.
It's a $500 chair.
I wouldn't have never bought a$500 chair.
Yeah, I just sit in, but againit's.
It's one of the bestinvestments for my setup because
it's comfortable, got torecline all of that and it's
again got the arm or everything,but yeah yeah, that's just part
(34:57):
of it.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So have you ever been out and you was thinking about
like is gaming on your heart?
Like you, someone be like man?
I really wish I was justsitting.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Oh yeah, we have plenty of times.
Plenty of times we'll besomewhere and be like man.
I want to go home.
I'm going to go on the game.
We'll be at work.
That's what you're thinking,seriously, depending on the game
that you enjoy.
I was in a situation where I'm astar from the beginning.
I got the bag, but I'm home,right, looking, looking for
(35:36):
something for work.
But I got the bag, everything'staken care of.
When I say everything took careof, I'm going to break it down
for the, for the guys that arein the gaming community.
The house is clean.
Bathroom, dishes, everything.
House is taken care of spotless.
The kid is not out Sleep.
What do you do?
You're a gamer.
(35:56):
You jump on the game.
You do what you need to do.
Now, your girl not home, she'snot home.
She's not home, ok, she's.
She's doing what she needs todo.
She's at school, but you'rehome.
I got the bag, everything'staken care of.
Now comes home, sees what I'mdoing and get upset, but
everything is taken care of.
I didn't, I couldn't understandwhat the issue was, took my
(36:19):
headphone through it against thewall, not once, multiple times,
and try to disable thesituation.
Upset because I'm on the game.
All right Now.
Police got involved.
I'm trying to make a long storyshort.
Police got involved.
The officer said what were youdoing?
I said I was on the game.
What caused the situation?
(36:41):
She threw my headphone againstthe wall and it broke and I got
upset.
I shut the door and it gotcrazy loud.
My son is still knocked out onthe bed, opened the door and
she's hitting on me, going crazy.
So I grabbed her and we went onthe bed, just held her tight on
the bed.
She called the cops and said Iput my hands on her.
(37:01):
All right, the cops came.
She's in all white.
Just to let you know, she's allwhite and this is the person
that's light-skinned.
So if you put your hands on her, you're going to see.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
God.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Cops came, looked, saw nothing was wrong.
She's not hurt.
Where did you get hit?
Can you show Nothing?
Nothing, no, nothing like that.
I said.
If it got crazy like that, Isaid my son is still knocked out
on the bed and throughout thiswhole situation, look, he's
still sleeping.
I said you know what?
I'm going to get up and leave.
That was the situation.
The cop asked me they ran out.
(37:33):
They ran out of records,whatever, like that.
The cop asked me you're a gamer, so what game you was?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
playing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And she's in the other room Upset Getting mad.
I was playing games, so we'rehaving a conversation, we were
laughing and I'm in the livingroom Made it way more worse.
You know what the officer toldme?
This is the main point.
The officer said, man, listen,my wife divorced me because I
was so addicted to Call of Duty.
He said he had days where hecalled out from work, lost
(38:01):
multiple jobs because of thatgame.
He said I am addicted to itstill to now, but I am a police
officer for this day.
He said my vacations is justwhen that game is going to
release and he takes us twoweeks when that game release.
This is a police officer.
The man that's way older thanme said he's lost his job for
(38:24):
one game.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, so it's, and lost his wife, so it's addicted.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, some people, yeah, some people really can't,
can't prioritize their lifebecause of it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
How do you manage?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Um, I got way better at it when I was a teenager,
maybe younger than I was.
I was bad.
I was real stuck on it.
Yes, but going.
You know, being in arelationship, being married, I
had to definitely let you know,had to let it go.
I had to let go a lot of thestuff that I was really into.
You know what I'm saying,because the person I was with
(38:58):
their love language was qualitytime, touch.
You know what I'm saying, sohad to understand that.
Mine's just touch also.
You know what I'm saying.
So, and we had a little kid inthe picture so we had had to
definitely cut that out here andthere.
But when we get an arguments,where am I?
It mounts on the game.
Yes, so it's a getaway.
Yes, it's definitely a getawaything to do for as a gamer.
(39:21):
But yeah, can get you introuble, man, big time.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So you had to prioritize.
Yes step away.
You just prioritize when youplan.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yes, definitely, ok, definitely, but I wasn't
streaming that, I was justgetting.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
OK, Now I hit him up.
He'll be like hey, hey, global,I'm on the game.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm going to call you back, I'm lying, you can't hit
you.
He'll tell you I'm gaming andcool.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
You know what I'm saying.
And even when I get a Twitchalert, like, I think, because I
got the app, because of him, Ithink I get a message or a
notification.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
He'll say that I'm lying.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He'll say that he's live.
And sometimes, depending on whatI'm doing, I try to tap in and
see what he got going.
You know what I mean.
It is, it is, it is cool.
It is a cool feature.
You know that's a.
That's a good story, man,that's a good story.
So if you're your son, if hecomes to you at I don't know,
let's say, five years from now,he just say Dad man, I don't
(40:11):
know about college so much, butyou know this gaming thing.
I see you doing it, you looklike you're pretty successful at
it, and I want to follow thatroute.
What would your words be to him?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'll tell him if he's going to do it, you better go
100% with it.
There's no slack, there's nolacking or nothing.
You need to make a schedule.
You need to do a schedulewithin life and then within
scheduling, with the streamingand gaming, all of that.
Now, if you just want a gameand that's it, no, no, you're
not, that's not happening.
You need to go back, go back toschool.
That's not it.
Because I'll tell him now, ifyou're going to do something,
(40:44):
you need to be committed to it,100% to it.
If you feel like that's not it,you need to find what that,
what the next thing is, first,before you leave what you're
doing now.
So, yeah, he's definitely asked.
He's seen me streaming here andthere.
He's not, definitely not intothe streaming, but he does like
the gaming.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
As much as you do.
No, not as much as I do, ok, ok.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
So how is one to be prepared for all of the
additional stresses that comewith gaming, because you talk
about some situations at leastfor me, I never really heard of
any of these situationspersonally, but clearly it's
(41:27):
happening to where the addictiveside I guess, the withdrawal
from life, the prioritizing yourrelationships.
How do you get prepared forthat?
Like?
And we allowing children,because both of my kids, one on
(41:51):
the iPad, the other one he onthe game, but I don't even know
to bring up to their attentionor to address, hey, this might
really affect your personal,your relationship.
We talk about these lovelanguages.
This might damage the languagein which your love communicates
(42:16):
with you and interface with therest of the world.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Can I be honest with you.
They already know Because theyknow what the girls are saying
in school.
You are a man going to do whatthe girl likes If she knows.
They already know because thegirls in school are already
saying they don't like boys atthat game or guys at that game.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
They're already saying it and, like elementary
and middle, they already know.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
That means they already accepted it.
Trust me, they know.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
So the young, the youth, the elementary ones.
They may not know they may notcare, the young girls already
rejecting it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Some of them probably are doing it too, but yes, yes,
they're already rejecting.
Trust me, trust me.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
So if there is a rejection, what is our response?
What is the response from theman in that rejection?
Speaker 2 (43:13):
You're saying like as a gamer or as letting the kid
know I want you to speak onbehalf of the game, the game
community the best you can.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
What is the male gaming community?
Response to the women.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Like I'm just meeting the female or I'm like what do
you?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
mean, I'm stating it like this Very universally and I
want you to speak on behalf ofthe gaming men the best of your
ability the women are rejectingfrom the information you gave us
today.
The women are rejecting theman's relationship with gaming.
(43:56):
What is the men?
What do the men have to sayabout that?
What does your reply to that?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
We accept it.
We accept it.
I'm going to be honest with you.
20% of us men accept it anddon't care what they have to say
about it.
We don't care, we're stillgoing to go after them and we
hope that they accept itregardless.
But the other percentage,they're going to lie and say
(44:26):
they're not and face theconsequences later.
But the ones that don't care,they don't care.
We're still going to go afterthe women anyway and hope that
she accepts and can understandhey, this is part of our love
language and can move on past it.
Gaming is a love language.
I would say yeah, yeah, becauseit's a getaway.
(44:46):
It's definitely a getaway andit just feels like sometimes I
want to say, 30% of the times Icome home, I don't care, I just
get on the computer and we'reall in the chat together and
we're just chopping it up.
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