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October 4, 2023 83 mins

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Prepare to be immersed in the captivating world of gaming and content creation as we welcome our guest, Viciouzz aka Vee, a professional gamer and content creator hailing from sunny California. Vee gives us a riveting account of her move from the humble beginnings of a grey Game Boy to the extraordinary realm of Xbox 360 streaming. Through her tales, we'll grasp the exhilarating highs, the unexpected lows, and the unwavering dedication that's mandatory in carving out a successful career in this dynamic industry.

Get ready to unravel the intricacies of the online gaming community, as Vee recalls her surprise when gaming superstars like Ninja and Danrue popped up in her chat. She brings to life the intense scene when a host from none other than Ninja, with a massive 20,000 viewers, crashed her bot! Plus, don't miss out on the heartwarming story of how her community chipped in with gifts to elevate her gaming setup. We also broach the sensitive subjects of online safety and privacy, with Vee pulling from her personal experiences on precautionary measures she takes to safeguard her digital presence.

In a whirlwind of emotions, Vee recounts her personal gaming relationship experiences, including co-parenting, her daughter's blossoming love for gaming, and unexpectedly falling head-over-heels for a long-time gaming friend. She also drops some golden nuggets for aspiring content creators about the importance of balancing gaming and streaming. And she sheds light on the myriad ways to become a partner in this bustling world of gaming. It's not all about thrill and fun though. We also delve into the serious topic of women's safety in the gaming and content creation sphere, highlighting the importance of being vigilant and proactive in maintaining personal security online. So, buckle up for a ride across Vee's remarkable gaming journey and the wisdom she's gathered along the way.

⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - Conversation About Gaming and Content Creation
5:09 - Online Gaming and Content Creation Experiences
13:52 - Gaming Journey
25:14 - The Gaming Relationship Experience
37:42 - Streaming Community Collaboration and Donations
44:32 - Partnerships, Affiliates, and Discord Communities
56:41 - Love Languages and Importance of Space
1:05:41 - Gaming and Content Creation Gender Dynamics
1:17:02 - Content Creation and Online Safety
1:22:28 - Safety and Privacy Concerns

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Speaker 2 (03:13):
What's going on?
Y'all Y'all tuned in to anotherepisode of Exposure.
I'll be your boy, the GlobalZoo, and I'm with the game.
You're bidding Draco Mel.
And today we got a specialinvited guest, a pro gamer and
content creator, vicious aka V.
All the way from Cali.
How you doing V?
Doing, great Doing great Well,we thank you for coming on today

(03:37):
.
We appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You're welcome, and we had an episode recently about
gaming and Draco was able totake the lead on that episode
and there was a lot of knowledge.
He dropped on us and he said,hey, I got somebody who's really
into it as well, who can speakon it, and from the female
perspective, and I was like thatsounds awesome, let's get it
done.
And that's what got us heretoday.

(04:02):
So first question I want to askyou is where are you from and
what got you started?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, I'm from New York, Bronx, new York, and what
got me started is because I wasa stay-at-home mom and I've
always been gaming, so everybodywas telling me I should do the
streaming thing and I justdidn't want people staring in my
face all day, so I was like Idon't know about that.
But then when I did it, I kindof got kickstarted off within a
month and a half and I waspretty much out there since then

(04:29):
and I think I started in 2017.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Something I'm mistaken.
Hold on, let's go deeper thanthat.
What got you into gaming andwhen did you start gaming?

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Oh, I think I was gaming in the womb, to be honest
.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
OK, ok.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I think I was gaming in the womb, but now I was
gaming since the regular, theGame Boy that was gray, they
didn't have no color.
I started on that first.
That's the stuff I was playingon and then I just went from
GameCube, regalent, nintendo,dreamcast, all that other stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
So now On Game Boy.
What game you remember?
Was it Pac-Man?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
On the gray one.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, it was the Super Mario.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh, Super Mario OK.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
See, I say Mario, I say Mario.
They get on me like that allthe time.
So I will pronounce it likethat.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Dreamcast last about two years.
Damn, all right, I got that.
I don't remember.
Honestly, it was supposed to bethe next thing, don't?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
know honestly.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
They had Sonic.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Another question V your online game Like.
What got you started to playonline?
Because we know the history,but I want the world to know and
expose the love for gamers.
So what were you doing?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
OK, so I was playing.
Of course, the games didn'thave places where you can talk
to people at that time, so youwas just playing by yourself.
And I think once I got a 360, Inoticed that you could talk and
play with people.
My dad got it for me and then Iwas just like, oh my god, like
this is crazy.
I didn't know you could talk topeople.
And from then and I think I waslike 14 years old when I

(06:12):
started playing the Xbox 360,knowing that you could do that,
and I think I just found the joyto be able to communicate with
my teammates.
Rather than play with my familyall the time at home, I had
other people to socialize with.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Right right.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So yeah, that was I like that.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's what's up.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
No, that's what's up.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
My next question would be what are some skills or
qualities that you believe areessential for success in gaming
and content creator industry?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, I know, for me, I didn't think it was going to
kick off as fast as it did whenI started, like it, it it was.
It was mind boggling to me, Icouldn't believe it, but it was
more of the consistency you know, being consistent, being myself
, as always.
You know a lot of people likethat.
That's like the main thingsbeing yourself, you know, and

(07:03):
just like basically keep pushing.
Like I know some people expectthings to happen overnight.
It doesn't happen like thatwith every single person.
You know you got to come withdifferent styles, different
personalities and stuff likethat, and it depends on what
people are looking for.
And as for me, when I wasstreaming on the mixer platform,
like I said, it was a month anda half and they basically liked

(07:23):
just my personality and just mebeing me.
They that's exactly what theytold me it was.
I was authentic.
I wasn't what people wanted meto be, it was just simply me
Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Can you share any memorable experiences or
milestones from your gamingcontent creation journey?
What are some of the keyhighlights?
You've experienced gaming thatyou probably never even thought
of, right I?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
give you an idea.
I give you one.
Please look at it.
Let me make the question alittle easier.
What shocked you the most while?
Who showed up in your chat?
Like was it?
How did you feel when you know,a certain person showed up in
your chat?
I don't want to say it, but I'mgoing to let you say it.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I had.
I had a few moments wherepeople popped into my chat.
But there was.
I know you guys know who Ninjais.
He rated me one day withthousands of viewers and it
broke my computer.
I'm not going to lie, I brokemy computer.
I couldn't handle my computerCan handle all those people
being in there talking at thesame time.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Explain yeah, I'm a little bit more Explain what
that means.
Explain it a little bit more,because they're not going to
understand.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, so basically, like it's All those people being
in there, it kind of runs.
I mean, at the time I didn'thave one of those like fast PCs
that could you know, uphold alot of that stuff.
So, when people came in and justit was going and my stream was
like going well, he was evenapologizing, you know, for it,
but I was just thankful becauseI didn't think that that would
ever happen.
You know, like somebody likeNinja would even come across my

(08:53):
stream and raid me and, you know, share his viewers with me.
And then I had another timewhere Another guy named if you
guys know who Dan Rue is he alsocame in to my stream one day.
He didn't, he wanted to learnhow to set things up and
everything like that.
So I wound up helping him setup his stream and now he's now
streaming till this day onmultiple platforms and he always
tells everybody like, yeah,like V helped me set this up,

(09:16):
you know, because a lot ofpeople didn't believe him, a lot
of people didn't want to helphim and I took the time to do
that.
You know she didn't believe itwas him in the chair, you know
who was down?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Which Dan Rue she talking about?
Right, hey baby, yeah, yeah, oh, that's awesome, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It was him, and then she was like prove it to me, and
he did.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, he proved that.
He threw it.
I think he was donating andnobody would donate the money
that he was doing.
It's like it's me.
And then she saw the profileand it actually connected that
it was him.
Oh yeah, what's up?
Yeah, Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh, yeah, what's up?
Yeah, congratulations on that.
Yeah, oh, big congratulations,bigger.
You know, listen, I haven't putmyself out there a little bit
because I do music, right, so I,you know, after I stop playing
video game, like I don't play itas much, but you know, I, you
know, now my logic is pro tools.
It's recording myself is likemy gaming world.

(10:15):
So, like, how did you say whenI want to put myself out there?
Because now you guys arestreaming, right, you got Twitch
, you got YouTube where you cango live and monetize your
channels.
What is the bravery?
Come from the sale.
Okay, not only do I enjoygaming with my friends, but I
also going to let people viewand come in and comment.
And you know, and what do youdo with the criticism, whether

(10:35):
it's negative or positive?
How do you continue to do whatyou do?
Tell them, okay.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Okay.
So I'll tell you one thing, methis.
This was my fear of streaming.
To be honest, like I said,people staring at you, having a
bunch of judgment, and just youknow there's always a negative
people.
But, like I said in thebeginning, it was, it was pretty
good, but I was nervous becauseI've never had so many people I
once just staring at a screenand staring at me, you know,

(11:03):
like it's just like I don't, Idon't know, like if, maybe, if I
, I have a booger in my nose andI want to pick my nose.
I can't pick my nose becausethey all looking at me.
So I'm just like I don't knowwhat to do.
Yeah, we do, we do get the thenegative parts of people and I'm
going to be completely honest.
Sometimes I kill them withkindness.
Sometimes my comebacks are waymore stronger than theirs that

(11:25):
they don't know how to handle it.
Um, yeah, you know, I just Iwant them to understand that
this a lot of them coming to saythis time someone came in, can
I?
How vulgar can I be?
How vulgar can I be?
I want you to keep it a hundred.
I'm going to give y'all anexample oh no, it's, it's, it's

(11:46):
going to be crazy.
So there was a person that cameinto my stream and a lot of us
female gamers their favoritething is for them to tell us to
that we should be in the kitchenrather than playing the game,
which is so disrespectful.
So the guy came in and he goesshouldn't you be in the kitchen?
And I was like wow, that'scrazy, because if you're that

(12:08):
hungry, you could come eat thispussy.
That's what I told him.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
So, and guess what?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
He didn't say nothing after that.
Nothing, it was nothing.
He didn't even know what to sayNothing at all.
I told y'all like listen, don't, don't play with me.
Like there's times I couldignore people.
But then it's like when stufflike that happens, especially
when men I feel like that's likea lot of men in general think

(12:38):
that women are not supposed tobe playing games.
They think it's about like yeah, we don't get dressed up to
look cute and all types of stufflike that or whatever.
But, some of us can actuallygame, no matter how good we look
, how much we do our makeup, doour hair Like, we do have, you
know, game gaming in our blood.
It's not all about just sittingthere looking pretty all the
time Like, yeah, granted, makesyou money, but I'm all about my

(13:04):
gaming.
I love my gaming.
You know, a lot of the timesthere's there's a lot of women
who also sit there.
They talk to their stream.
That's perfectly fine, like Ilove it.
I love talking to my community,but I'm so much like into
gaming that I can't do that fortoo long, you know, because I
want to game out.
A lot of people want to.
You know, see how good I am, orjust to troll me, either one.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
She's one of them that actually look good and can
kick ass while gaming, so thisis why?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Thank you, I think these numbers are crazy good.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Okay, so it's not a combination, that's not just
okay, I'm a little pretty andlook at my hair and swing my
hair.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's not one of them.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And she's in it.
She's going him cursing,kicking ass and winning games.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So this is I did go on the Instagram and watch some
of the clips.
I did, I did have, I did laugh,I did enjoy watching you
because I'm trying to understand.
And then I was going I seeDrago reactions and I'm seeing
some of your reactions.
I was like, yeah, this isdefinitely interesting, you know
good stuff Good.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Is it like a?
Is it a sport for you or acraft?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
No, it's definitely, I would say, a craft and it's
something like I know somepeople stream and do this
because they feel like they'reforcing themselves, because they
want to make income from it.
I have my slow days, my very,very slow days, my very slow
weeks sometimes, and it's like Iusually don't care about it.
I don't care because I enjoyedgaming way before doing the
streaming thing.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
So it's, it's nothing different for me.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
So V.
I want you to explain and thentell them how you started on
your bed with no chair, yourback hurting, it sucks, and how
people came by genuinely stuckwith you and how everything
right now in your background toyour computer, your mic, all of

(14:59):
it was was funded from justgaming, having fun, being
genuine, and your whole setupwas just created from people
loving your genuine self andyour whole background was just
paid for from viewers Like.
I want you to explain that likefrom from the bed, because I
remember when you were on yourbed and complaining your back

(15:22):
hurts.
You know if you're on your bedguys, you know you can't really
stay steady and you're on thecontroller.
She's on the edge of her bedand I have to throw this in
there.
So she's like four or five orheight.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
So boy bye.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Don't do that.
You're going to give me my damninches.
Got women.
What, what do you mean Okay, soshe's 411 and her feet are
gaming on the bed.
I'm 511.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
God damn it, but yeah .
So it is very uncomfortable tobe on the bed.
And gaming and being to have tostay up because you know people
are watching you so I want youto explain from that part and
how people came by and thenumbers, like what was the first
big, don't know.
That's a two part question.

(16:02):
But wait, don't donation.
Okay, wait when before?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
like I got like everything else.
So when I was in the X boxcamera.
I was like I'm not going to beon the X box camera and then
it's like in the X box cameraMixer on your beds from there.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
And what was your?
Your first big?

Speaker 4 (16:21):
My first big donor was probably a hundred dollars.
I got a hundred dollars becauseI did have a goal up to Get a
setup, because I was streaming,yes, directly from the Xbox with
a webcam plugged into it andRunning mixer through Xbox.
Like I had no setup, no,nothing.
It was just at the corner, likethe edge of my bed with a light
beaming on me so that peoplecould see, and then I was just

(16:43):
basically gaming.
But even though I started likethat, like I got partnered off
of that, like you know, justsitting there I didn't have
anything.
But once, I guess, like peoplewere still sending me money and
stuff, you know, so that I couldget like gaming chairs, desk
and PC and stuff.
But I guess, once I gotpartnered, it was just like I
let everybody know like, oh mygod, I got partnered, I'm gonna,

(17:04):
you know, need some stuff.
And when I tell you, mycommunity came through, they
came through, got me desk, gotme chair, pc monitors,
everything like, even though itwasn't probably like the highest
tech things.
It was a good start, you know,I was able to go live and be
able to sit at a desk and notplay on my big ass 60 inch TV.

(17:26):
I see the difference.
You know, when playing on amonitor it's like so much better
.
But yeah, it was, it was.
It was really nice from thatand to till now, like that.
Honestly, they're still helping, you know.
I'm still upgrading as I go.
Like this problem, my mic isprobably the newest thing I got.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That's a short SB.
Yes, yeah, it looks nice, Ithink the SM wait, yes, I'm
seven, be okay, there you go.
Yeah, yeah, yes you know,michael Jackson recorded
thriller on that microphone.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
But a lot of people do record on this mic.
I've seen a lot of peoplerecord on it right.
Quality, for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
So, eric, so when, when I say that donations and
the money comes in and she'sable to Show her personality,
like her entire background,that's just her, that's so.
It is a craft and it's.
It's a hobby and it's actuallyfun because your channel becomes
your personality.
You understand, so you get toshow your viewers who you really

(18:27):
are, not just what they see andwhat knowledge, what they,
what's all behind you and whatyou, you know what you're really
into.
So it becomes you and Peoplebecome more connected to you
when you do stuff like that andthey're willing to just give
more.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So, yeah, understood.
So gaming is not your mainsource of income, that's, this
is like a, would you say,additional source of income when
we do it.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Mm-hmm.
This is my main source ofincome for five years.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's okay, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Hmm, so what?
I know it's not as easy, sowhat?
What does one have to considerto get to your level?
We know you had the ground.
You started from the bottom.
So someone who's just trying tojump into this hearing that T
Grizzly makes 250,000 a month,what are some things people
really got to consider To honein on their craft if they want

(19:26):
to pursue gaming and creatingcontent, as yourself?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well, one thing I tell them not to do because a
lot of people make this mistakeis they go into creating content
and gaming and streaming anddecide to want to quit their job
without even having any type ofyou know following, or you know
a good amount of supporterslike to To actually bring in
that money.
You know we all start small,but we got to start small.

(19:52):
Keep our jobs, but you know youquit your job when you feel
like you're making enough touphold yourself.
You know, without Having thejob and having the stress of
doing both.
You know, because there arefull-time streamers and they do
also try to do work at the sametime and I know it's draining
wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
So, um, you know a couple of people that have
actually quit their job.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yep, yep, I do, yep, yeah, and I always tell them
like that, that was.
That would probably one of thebiggest mistakes that you can
ever do.
Because, though you feel like,oh, it's working, because I know
a lot of people when they startstreaming in the beginning,
people know you trying to getJust stuff together.

(20:39):
They're gonna show you a lot oflove, you know, or they're
gonna send you money in order tocome up with the streaming, you
know, equipment and everythinglike that, and a lot of people
they feed off of that like, oh,if it's working like this, now
I'm getting all this money andstuff, shoot, I could quit my
job, but no, they're justhelping you Get your stuff and
now you're on your own, do whatyou.

(20:59):
Now it's up to you to make thismoney on your own.
You know, make it on your ownso that now other people's gonna
come in and then, of course,you know, they're gonna help you
out with, either you know, subs, donations or whatever you know
, whatever way they can do it.
But yeah, just don't quit yourjob and that don't.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
No, I think that goes the same for artists out there
too.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know what I mean.
Unless you got a funding or anindependent label out there,
it's the same Agree, samemessage.
I will be preaching acrosseveryone else out there.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
All right.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I want to say, well, because of fishes, but the
gaming community I want to talkabout, about the gaming
community.
This is kind of how, like howwe met, I didn't know who you
are and we didn't like youdidn't know who we all were, but
we're gaming and how weconnected.
I want you to explain that fromthe female point of view About
the gaming community, how youwon't know who the person is on

(21:50):
the other side of the Mike andhow we connect and we probably
could been connected for tenyears and never saw each other.
Can you explain a little bitmore about that?
I mean?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
to be, honest.
Like your mods right now likeright now, or some of them not
even your mods.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Can you explain, like the, the, the history and what
is a mod?
Oh, okay, I'm gonna let her doit.
I'm gonna let her explain it.
She got a whole bunch, allright.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
So a moderator is for the, the short term of it.
They're like the police of thechat, like if there's people
coming in with negativity,spamming the chat, doing
anything wrong, they're the oneswho time them out, ban them
from the stream and stuff likethat, just so you don't have to
do it while you're streamingbecause you know you're trying
to do your content.
You can't keep, you can't readchat, try to get people out the
chat who are being negative andtry to play the game at the same

(22:40):
Time.
So they kind of lift the loadof a bunch of the stuff going on
in the chat for you.
But as for, oh, my god, likeI'm I think I'm kind of coming
back on that now that you saidthat because it is true, you and
I knew each other for over adecade, has more, goddamn, it's
been so long and we have nevermet each other.

(23:03):
And I've, I've met, I've.
I have other people who I'veknown for years on the Xbox,
like maybe eight, seven yearsand I'm just now meeting them in
person and it's like, it's sogood to know, like when you are
meeting some of these people inperson, that they are the same
exact individual Physically.

(23:23):
You know, cuz some people.
They act one certain, a certainway and then when you meet them
You're like okay, this wasn'tthe person I was friends with.
Like who is this?
Like it's a whole, and that'sthat's what I mean about you
being yourself.
You know, cuz people?
Just I feel like they.
They Try to put on stuff thatthey think that other people
want to see and that I know thatain't me.

(23:43):
I don't like it.
I want you to be yourself.
24, seven.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Can we?
Let's let's get a little deeperinto that, can we?
We go a little.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Just, we're talking about connections and, and
emotional, I want to sayemotional, physical.
All of you know all of theemotions.
Um, I'm gonna just ask you thequestion.
I know, but have you Falling inlove with someone over online

(24:16):
gaming?
Yep, yeah and hold on.
Here's the second part.
Is the second question.
He's the second part of thatquestion.
Um, how does?
How?
Is it Balancing therelationship or the emotions
when it comes to streaming?

(24:36):
Because I know it's when itcomes to streaming Gaming and
balancing your personal lifewith that situation.
Could you explain a little biton that?
Oh?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, so I did.
Yes, I did meet in full in lovewith someone on Xbox and we
wound up getting married.
Oh, you did get married.
Yes, we got.
Well, I'm divorced now so, ohyeah, no, it's good, but yeah,
we, we got married.

(25:07):
I knew him for literally almostall my life and we do have a
daughter and and that that was.
It was actually prettyinteresting.
You know, like I, you neverexpect stuff like that to happen
While gaming, but I think thethe best thing about that
situation was because sometimespeople do, you know, fall in
love with people who wasprobably on the other side of

(25:28):
the world where you can't evenget to them, but he just so
happened to be across the bridgebecause he was in New York as
well.
He was just an hour away on thetrain ride, so he was pretty
close and you know, we knew eachother for so long, got married,
him being in the military andeverything like that and you
know, I mean we're good now, wewe good co-parenting now.
But it was definitely.

(25:48):
I would I wouldn't like say Iregret that experience because
it's it was.
It was crazy for me.
It was crazy because I you justdon't expect stuff like that
and juggling a relationship withsomebody who was also into
gaming is actually not bad likeif they are also gamers, it it
doesn't like it's not much of anissue.

(26:10):
I think the only issue withthat will probably be like, you
know, if you're not spendingtime with each other, then I'll
see that that'd be a problem.
But a lot of the times we wouldspend time with each other
gaming.
You know we'd game together, soit was like we're still doing
stuff together, so that neverReally was an issue for me.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
What would you do it again?
Would you do it again?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
What I do, do what again?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
not saying get married, but like you.
Know what I mean.
Like yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, of course, to be honest, I said like as of now
, I Did say if I was to findsomebody, I need them to also be
gamers, because it's reallyhard to be with people who don't
understand.
It is so Like I would neverwant to be with somebody who's
gonna try to Stir me away fromeither not just streaming, but

(27:04):
gaming in general.
Like gaming is something I doevery single day, you know, and
I feel like whoever I encounterat some point, I encounter at
some point, I would hope thatthey're also a gamer, because
they understand, they wouldunderstand you know what to do
and ask for me, like I'm not.
I'm not one of them women whocomplain about my man playing a
game.
She'll give me the controllablethe controller.

(27:27):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's me.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Got you.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hmm, so what would be like the average time?
What would be like a goodamount of time, like you think,
average per day?
You would say you would gameand, and if you're in a
relationship, are we both doingthe same amount of time or
there's some compromisesomewhere in there?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
well, me being single .
I stream as long as I damn well,please.
As for being in a relationship,I mean, yeah, of course you got
to have your time and it's andI wouldn't say it's also just
for a relationship, it's foryourself as well, because you do
get tied up into stuff likethis, like you could stay here

(28:07):
and game for hours and you'resitting there for hours because
you're enjoying yourself.
But it's also not healthyeither.
Right, it's also not healthy.
You got a, you got to get outthere, you got to walk around,
you got to exercise, you got tomake sure you're drinking water,
you're eating good, you know,because a lot of people do get
sick and have died from, youknow, streaming and gaming and
not Taking care of their healthbecause they're so Indulged in

(28:30):
gaming, like it's.
It's, it's scary, but I think ina relationship standpoint, I I
don't mind.
You know I would take time off.
It gives me a reason to taketime off, you know, to have fun,
because I do like getting outas well.
So I mean, I don't.
I haven't encountered that yet.
So it's kind of hard to speakon that, because everybody else

(28:51):
has understood what I've done,what I do, and they don't
question it.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Gotcha and you say you're, you have a daughter,
right, how?
What is your daughter?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
She's six.
She'll be seven in November.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay, okay, no, scorpio yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
She act like one too.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Hmm, and I'm sure that curiosity when she sees you
gaming, is that something yousee her into?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
oh, oh, for sure there are.
There are a lot of videos thatI know, drago he knows there are
videos of her and I, even fromher being two years old to three
years old.
There was one video that kind ofwent a little viral on on
Twitter and Mm-hmm and I wasplaying I think I was playing

(29:33):
fortnight and I died and mydaughter just came into the my
camera.
She like did this dramatic,like science?
She goes, oh your trash, yearsold, two years old, and told me
I was trash.
And then another time I wasplaying gears award, she told me
somebody was right there and Iguess I still died by them.

(29:53):
This girl Scream and she triedto snatch a controller and she's
like I got it, like give me thecontroller Because you're not
doing it right.
Like she is gonna be a gamerand even right now she plays a
lot of games.
So since two years old she'sbeen into it and wanting to play
.
So I could see her.
I could definitely see hercarrying in the footsteps.
I mean, I'm not sure about thestreaming, but the gaming side

(30:15):
she's definitely on board withthat for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's what.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I want to.
I want to go back real quick tothe trolling in the chat.
Like trolling, yeah, sometimesmods can take care of it and
then sometimes you can tell yourminds not to you got, you can
handle it.
I just want to mention the timewhere I was Co-streaming with
someone.
That means cold streaming iskind of like what we're doing
right now.
Well, we got these two screenswhere it's us and then or

(30:40):
another Streamer playing withyou, but you can see both our
streams on one screen, yeah.
So I got a fresh new cut andthe first and I was playing with
, oh, shut out to the fat stacks.
He had a freaking cut and wegot lighting, but our lighting
is not as beautiful and soft asthis.
So that means now I got aforehead and you can see the

(31:00):
clean coming to my foreheadright and you can see the green
coming on his forehead, yeah.
And then one dude came in thechat.
He was trolling.
He said man, you guys look liketwo milk duds.
When I said I laughed.
So I told him not.
To be honest, I laughed so hardI cried.
On stream dude donated.
I think he donated, but heactually followed.

(31:22):
That's what he did.
He followed the channel.
He just, he just trolled,follow the channel and became a
viewer.
So you can't make somethingnegative into a positive.
Sometimes people do it to seewhat your reaction is gonna be,
depending what it is we get.
We get sometimes some bad stuffthat come up on screen where
you're like, hmm, should I reactor should I not, depending, you

(31:43):
know, if you want to Roast them, but they, you know, there's a
I think there's a term Inagreements that we should, we
should not.
But there's times when you'regoing you're gonna want to Flame
somebody up.
You know I'm saying so, I'mwith you, yeah, but again, it
can.
You can turn something negativeinto a positive and sometimes
it actually it.
It helps out.

(32:04):
You know your chat and your andthe interaction in the chat.
So, yeah, it just, it justdepends.
I just wanted to bring that upreal quick.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay, what?
That's a good thing, and I knowwe're using what are some other
abbreviations or terms we got.
We got you said mod is for amoderator.
There's there anything else inthe chat that we could look out
for?
What else is there as far asroles is concerned?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
VIPs yeah, okay, vips which which, like, if you were
came to my channel, I would havemade you, I could make you a
VIP.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Which which gives me access to certain stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
No, I was just saying , hey, this the OG respect them
like, no matter what he say.
Okay, it's like letting yourother viewers like, okay, this
is somebody special to him, orthey got some type of connection
.
You know, saying like I madeyou a VIP, okay and I don't
gotta announce it.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
This is just in the chat.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's a, it's an emblem next to your name, yep,
so every time.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Every time you talk, it's gonna be on the side of
your name.
Every time you type somethingin, it'll be there.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
You don't need anything.
All you need is a relationshipwith the person to become a VIP.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean A relationship , yeah, but it is more than that
.
Because you have you can have arelationship with your whole
chat, you know, because youspeak to people every day, but
it's more so.
People that you are reallyclose to or you know has
basically held you down, youknow, with streaming or looking
out for you.
A lot of that, a lot of theVIPs in my chat are people that

(33:29):
I knew since I started andthey're also people that come in
there and they literallysupport heavy, and when I mean
support heavy, they drop money,so they deserve VIPs.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
If you drop the band of two bands in my chat, you
gonna get Some type of badge inmy chat.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Oh, immediately immediately.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Her sometimes.
I don't know if you still doingV, for example, for her.
Let's just say global women anddrop two bands.
She's gonna.
She's gonna put him in the bioand said top donor and His name
is gonna always be on her on herscreen or in her bio on her
page.
So yes, are you still?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
do that V I haven't done in a while but it is still
up there, so people still do see.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
You know the, the people who Right off the dome,
who would be top True codebreaker yeah, breakers yeah true
code breaker.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
That is my bestie.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay, I want to get too deep, but what's?
What's the number?
What's the number?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
What you mean, the number, Right now what, what
like?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
what is that now what ?
But just just just a guess realquick.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I could buy a whole Lexus.
Okay, never mind brand new.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Something I feel like people not talking about,
people like.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Oh God it does that happens to like there's people
do see that you do Don't like.
People donate large amounts ofmoney or they get things for you
and it has a Good um, you know,is good to see.
And then it's also negativefeedback on it too, sometimes,
because the first thing peoplethink and especially me being a

(35:21):
female gamer content creator thefirst thing they think is, oh,
you must have sexual relationswith this person or oh, you must
be given this person somethingto be dropping this type of
money on you.
And I'm just like what?
Like, why does it have to bethat, like you guys, people know
nothing about the situations orthe friendships you built.
And this person, true codebreaker, he has been with me

(35:45):
before I even got partnered andeverything like that.
He's been there since.
He's literally watched mydaughter grow up to the point
where she calls him uncle code,so Literally he's been there for
the longest and it was neveranything like that.
Like, we are literally bestfriends.
It's nothing more, nothing less.
We look out for each other.

(36:06):
I.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Could definitely see it as if I was a gamer and I was
.
If I was in your world as agamer and I I I had a career
where I made like Really goodmoney and I also understand the
gaming culture I could see wherea lot of my money Would go to

(36:29):
all these gamers who need things.
I got it, I'm good and I alsogame, so I can see where there's
people that's on there.
That's genuinely.
I just given off of the love ofthe, I guess the craft, the
sport, the community, theUnderstanding, like I could see

(36:50):
myself, like you know what.
I just want to splurge some finegirls, some ugly girls, some
poor children, some Heartbroken,when some that's trying is just
getting started but don't knowwhat I do.
I might just be on the Justthrowing out money like boy, you

(37:12):
, you don't need so much man,I'm like, well, I got it on
doing anything else, but I beatmy meeting.
Just I get on the game and I'mon my computer in my chair.
I'm like I might like I gotthem, I got the money, ain't
going to the club, you ain'tdoing nothing else.
And you, if you, if you in thisworld, and you are a person
that do have money.

(37:33):
I can see how you would getheavily invested into seeing
other people's dreams andpassions coming true and it all
work out.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, yeah uh V explain how uh you had this.
Uh, not just you, he was justgoing around.
You already know what I'mtalking about.
He was just going around, justlike what you just said.
He was just going around andshe just mentioned my name.
I want to let you explain it.
Just uh, could you explain thatreal quick?
You?
Know wait which is around mixeror the Twitter?

(38:02):
I think I want to say mixer,and you used to play fortnight
with him, but he would go aroundand just oh.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I think um, yeah, itwas, it was.
It was somebody who came in umto my stream and he would always
like I would have goals up onmy stream, on you know how much
I need for something or how muchI'm trying to make this day.
He would come in every day andClear my goal every time and
then he would ask me like, oh,you know, do you know people,
you know who's in need or needsome stuff or streaming stuff or

(38:32):
whatever?
And I was just like, oh yeah,and I knew that at that time
drago needed a new gaming chairand I was like, all right, I got
somebody for you.
And as soon as I said that, Igave him the link, we went in
there.
He gave him the money for thefor the chair.
He donated it to him.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Not that one that this is I've.
So I've learned again throughvicious.
Okay, um, okay that.
So the first chair I got, I, Ibought the chair.
I did put a dono bar up, but Iwas like you know, I really need
this chair.
Forget it for content.
I'm gonna try to record, put ittogether.
It was a cheap chair fromamazon but I had a dono bar.
When we say don't know bar is abar on your screen and it's a

(39:12):
percentage of how close you areto get that item that you have
in that box.
Okay, so I'm gaming, I'll havehim fun, don't know nothing and
I have custom sounds.
Boom, he thought it was 150.
Uh, I think.
I think he said it was.
I think it was closer 150.
So he dropped 150.
He's oh, it ain't filled up yet.
Boom, he dropped another one.
So back to back.

(39:32):
He filled up my goal instantlyand I'm like oh, oh, who's this,
who's this?
And then V was like uh, um, uh,congrats, drego.
Um, she told me whatever it wasin the chat, but I was going
crazy because it was my firsttime.
My bar just got filled up, youknow, instantly.
Yeah, so right there, live onthe screen.
I don't care if my address isshowing I bought.

(39:53):
I showed that I used the moneyto buy the chair.
All right, I need that.
Show that the money's goingback to the stream.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
No, that's love.
Yeah, that's what's up again.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Appreciate it V.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, look at that, that's a, that's a good
community, that's another thing.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
That's another thing when it comes to the community.
Um, you can, it's kind of easyto show love, so, like if she
had, like, uh, a 5,000 people onher channel again, ninja
probably has 20,000, and when hehosts you, all of them comes to
your channel, which how she wasexplained earlier, it broke her
channel, it broke her bot, soit was too much for her, her bot
to handle.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, I had.
I I don't know where either.
I read it.
I was looking at something umsimilar in this field, where
they explained that the memorythat's stored on heart drives
and um, everything is physical,like we don't, we don't think of
, like our phones andinformation, the picture, the

(40:51):
pictures and the data andeverything.
We don't think of it asphysical, but from a, I want to
say from the Atomic level, likethe at down to the smallest
atoms of it, there's actuallyweight to it, so you can carry

(41:13):
weight In density within theusage.
So I and I discovered this umstudying some other stuff, but
when she said that that itcrashed it out in my mind.
I literally saw the weight ofeverybody else else, everybody
else's, everyone else's um Iwant to save either feed or

(41:38):
information, just posting,hitting her computer and the
computer likes, like it's, it'sphysical, yeah, it's like it's
wild when you think of it likethat, when you, when you trying
to understand what we, we can'tnecessarily see actually being
um Impressed upon, right, andthat's, that's kind of, that's

(42:01):
kind of crazy when you thinkabout it.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's dope.
Now I saw something cool like I.
Like I say I'm in the musicianworld one time Drago went live
on twitch and um.
I was just in there watchinghim.
I think he used baby making abeat and and creating what he
created in um.
As I'm, I'm tuning in, I'm inthe chat, I see what's going on
and then I what you call it,don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So I saw the don't know button and I'm like, how
does this work?
I just was curious, right.
So I I sent him a donation andthen it was like he I don't know
if he gets all hurt, but helooked surprised and he like, oh
, and then he had like a themesong, I guess per donation,
whether it's a 20, a 50, ahundred.
Do you have something similarfor when you get donations?

(42:43):
Do you have themes, songs orcelebrations?
You do.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Well, right now I'm kind of revamping my stream, so
I kind of took that off.
But when I did, yeah, I had, Ihad stuff for Subs, donations.
But with the donations, um, Ihad it at a point where all you
had to do was donate like atleast a dollar and A dollar or
more, and if you donated you get, you got to write a message

(43:06):
with it so that it'll the botwill read the message out loud
on your stream.
And I kind of have to turn thatoff because people was taking
advantage of it.
So I had to bump up the amountin order for, you know, music
and stuff to play and, um, youknow, bring them to able to
write stuff while they send themoney, because it's a the

(43:28):
trolling even even if it's goodtrolling, it still happens.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Okay, okay.
Yeah, that's dope.
I like that feature.
Now, how often do you guyscollab in the gaming world?
Is there such a thing as collabwhere we both when you guys are
playing each other?
But how does that work as faras on the streaming side?
Is there a way for you guys toshare the revenue or is it
individually based?

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Definitely individually based individually
based.
Yes, it's individually based Um,which, which is why a lot of
times, when people do co-streamsand stuff like that, you um,
some places you do see the Same,like how we're doing it, like
this or another person is doingtheir own stream with their own
chat.
I'm doing my own stream with myown chat, and then we'll tell
the you know the the chat, like,oh, you know my chat.

(44:13):
I'll be like hey, go followthis person.
I'm playing with them right now.
Go show them some love.
You know, because this, becausesometimes they'll hear them in
the game and they're like who'sthat?
Are they a streamer too?
You know, like, what's their,what's their at?
And then I'll give them theirat and then they'll go over
there.
There they go, they gained aview, they gained a follow and
possibly some more revenue.
You know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Hey, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Uh, explain partnership with the uh sites of
the um, because that's anotherthing that you can also gain,
also a partnership, and you geta percentage now and all of that
.
So, uh, can you explain alittle bit on that?

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Well, I've been partnered with a bunch of
Company so they all kind of theyrun differently, but, um, yeah,
you have to meet certain goalsand stuff in order to become
partnered and when you becomepartnered you basically Get like
extra stuff, like you get toget free merch.
Sometimes they invite you tocertain um things for vip's that

(45:05):
you can get.
They don't.
Some places, some you knowplaces, do kind of fly you out,
but a lot of the times it doescome out of our, of our pockets
and we get to go to places andkind of just see, see stuff that
not everybody else Can see, andespecially going to like gaming
conventions.
We could go to gamingconventions and then if you're a

(45:26):
partner, they have specificparties for you, they have
separate sections for you whereyou get treated like royalty
Okay, and you just it, it's,it's nice.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
You know, and then you huh you, you have uh
affiliations, and let's talk,don't forget sponsorships that
too.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, sponsorships, affiliates and they're all.
They're all different, like allof the different um affiliates,
um, I can't.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'd, yeah, I can't really explain the affiliate
chip thing because I feel likeit's you know it's like a feel
this is like a commission, likewhen you get like, let's say,
you, what a company, is it thesame, you get a personal link
and you you can share it and youget a commission from that, or
is like a different kind ofaffiliate?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
No, I think affiliate I feel like it's like it's a
stepping stone to get into yourpartnership.
Basically, you know, it'sliterally a step or so.
So once you hit affiliate, it'slike all right, it's like
you're in but you're the steps,you're the stepchild.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That's how I feel like it is.
We see you, but you thestepchild, so we're gonna feed
the partners first and we seeyou working over there.
That's, that's what I feel likeaffiliate is.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
So it's like a close up, but it's not.
It's like a close up and in thegaming world it's different.
Like it's like a close.
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I will say, hey, we will, we'll give you, we'll give
you a piece of the pie, butthey, they're gonna party.
It's like you, can you?
Yeah, it's the close up.
It's kind of like a slap in theface a little bit to me.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It sounds like a step towards in the right direction.
It is.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
It is a step.
It is a step in the rightdirection.
But, um, yes, as as for peopleyou know who have not reached
partnership, like see me, I'vebeen streaming on twitch for
years now and I think when Ifinally Took it seriously and
and got off of facebook becauseI was also so streaming on

(47:24):
facebook and I am also partneredwith them I took it seriously
for a month and I got partnered.
Like I just wasn't reallystreaming nowhere else really
much.
I was putting all my time intothat.
I was streaming on tiktok andtwitch at the same time and
people from tiktok wanted to seemy twitch so they were going
over to my twitch and I didn'twant to watch me on tiktok, so

(47:45):
it was just like it.
Any.
There's a bunch of places thatcan, you know, bring up any of
yours where you do your socialsor or your gaming ad or content
creation.
You can pull them from otherplaces and they could go to
where you mainly stream or whatyou mainly do.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
So I'm uh, I'm gonna give an example what we got.
You see how we use the whatsappas a hub.
Like you have a hub on thewhatsapp, yeah.
Yeah, the discord is our huband it's like the main.
Like you can't really fuck upin there because you really can
be you behind the cameras andyou can set different sections

(48:24):
where you have 18 plus.
When I say 18 plus, I meanmature content only.
Anything goes in there.
It warns you before you go inthere.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Okay, v explain your discord.
I know yours is not like that,I'm just saying this you know
this others?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
No, mine's ain't like that because if it was, it'd be
gone.
Trust me, I'd be kicked off adiscord in a second because my
mouth is reckless.
But, um, yes, there are likedifferent channels in discord
where you can set it to.
You know a section for aspecific game, like how I have
minds.
I have a section for justchatting where everybody could
talk and chat.
I have a section where peoplecould post selfies and we could

(49:05):
basically see who we're talkingto.
You know, we know who you are,um, voice chats.
I also do movie nights everythursdays and there's sections
like that where people come andthey watch movies and as we
watch in it, instead of themtalking, they type as the movies
going on.
You know we could speak andstuff we could have our cameras
on while we do it.
I have vip sections where onlypeople who have vip roles can

(49:27):
see that section and nobody elsecan Like it's.
It's so much stuff that you cando On there.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh, this is so.
You watch movie, I watch moviestogether.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yes, I watch movies with my community, like see.
Today I was supposed to domovie night but you know I guess
.
Thanks, dude, but yes, um.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Oh, we definitely definitely.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
So I I'm going back to some things we talked about
on the other episode.
This can definitely beintimidating, if you would, if
you date in a person in thetraditional world I want to call
it and there's someone in thisvirtual world and I and I ain't

(50:11):
trying to sound like a snitchingnothing, but y'all got a lot of
stuff going on and look, it'swhat, what this is, 2023.
Yeah it's 2023.
I just learned All about all ofthis just now in this one
episode and I'm like hold up thepeople that's tripping about

(50:33):
Having partners.
That's in this world.
They're not tripping Becausey'all got a whole nother world
going on.
Y'all watching movies, y'allgoing on dates, y'all Y'all
watching each other, kids growup, y'all Language, headphones,
chairs, y'all buying.
Like what's happening?

(50:55):
I'm gonna be, I'm jealous and Iain't even in this situation I
might run.
It's almost Going on y'all notletting us in the in the
terrestrial world know about.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Trust it.
It's like.
It's like the people that don'twant to know.
We like, oh okay, you one ofthose and we just keep moving,
but don't say don't go out likeI don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Watching movies.
No, okay, you can't.
You can't say that you can'tbecause there there are people
like yes, as for me, I have abig community, so I try, that's
my way.
When movies, it's a bunch ofpeople, it's not just me and one
specific person, it's a lot ofus women, men, all together,

(51:49):
like we've been in a room, we'llwatch movies and stuff, and
that gives them more of a timeto have more of a personal
connection with me, rather thanit being on stream.
On stream, I'm gaming, I'mworried about my game and I'm
worried about everybody in thechat.
When it comes to them coming tomy Discord, we watch in movies
and stuff like that.
We watch movies.
After the movies done, what dowe do?
We sit there, we conversate, weget to learn about each other.

(52:10):
They actually get to speak tome, you know, verbally.
They get to speak to me becausethey can't do that while I'm
streaming.
They can't just pull me asideand be like oh V, you know how
you do this, how you do that orwhatever, whatever.
When it comes to that, and evenwithout watching movies and
stuff, watching movies is cool,I do that, you know.
So everybody can come together.
But there are times like yeah,I just bring them in and I'm

(52:31):
like if y'all want to hang out,come hang out.
And it just gives them time Tospeak to me and be able to talk
without me gaming and havingother distractions when they're
trying to Ask me a question.
So it's not like we're doinganything crazy.
And this is why I said like Iwould rather be with somebody
who Is in the gaming communityand understand it, because it's

(52:52):
really hard to explain it.
So people who don't know,because in their head is just
like see how you reacted, it'slike what the fuck are you doing
?
Like no, it's this nothingcrazy.
Like I ain't gonna lie.
The other people may be doingsome crazy Shit.
I'm not one of them, but as forthis, I'm all about my
community.
Like they put so much like Timeinto my stuff.
They don't.

(53:13):
They donate, they support, theygive.
Like I tell you, y'all know howmuch this chair cost.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I'm sitting in, please, I'll watch out again,
how much give me a guess?
Let me take a look.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
How about you get up and turn the chair a little bit
for?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
oh yes, I mean, I'm a guest 800 and it looked like
it's perfect for the spine.
I'm gonna throw 750.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
This price is right, baby.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I'm gonna say 1200.
Wait, wait, wait, wait 750.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm gonna say 600.
You got 600.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Yeah, all wrong?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Oh, don't say so.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
This chair was 1700.
What Whoa.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
What I'm gonna be, that thing that'll be fucking me
.
I'm sorry that thing, I don'twant.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
You know what he doing in the private tax.
You know what he doing in theprivate tax.
Oh my God, I don't want to knowwhat kind of joy.
Let's pause real quick.
Let's pause, let's see whereit's burning.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I'm so quick.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm gonna be happy you know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I'm gonna be happy, I'm going to be happy.
Blame it on Bella.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Let's pause.
You know what I mean.
We live.
I'm not a VIP member in hischat.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Damn, that's an expensive chair.
I mean, what are the featuresin the chair we don't know about
?
Does it warm you?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
up.
What do we do?

Speaker 4 (54:54):
She's big Okay so I, I'm still partnered with a chair
company, um, and I felt likethe chairs are.
I'm gonna tell you one thingthe race of chairs are beautiful
, like.
They look good, they lookreally nice, very like, trendy
for your stream, you know,having colors, you know behind
you and all this other, which iswhy I'll use these as colors.

(55:15):
I don't use the chairs anymore,but, um, I've been sitting in
those chairs and when I tell youmy back, it can't take it after
a while, like after a while, itcan not, like it's not for me.
So when I got this chair, likeI said the same thing.
I don't know why the hell thisshit is so expensive, but when I
sat in it, like the there's,like it don't look, like it has

(55:35):
no cushion or nothing likethat's.
That's why it was scary for me.
But when I sat in it, like mybutt feels fine, it's, it's
molding properly to the chairand as you see how you said the
those, it looked like a littlespine thing.
You can sit back.
It like shapes your the curveof your back, if you have a
curve or whatever, like it doesall of that.
You can like Open, likeseparate, go up down, do all of

(55:59):
this, and there's a lot ofchairs that don't do that.
You can't like pull them closeror push them apart.
You know you have to do likeit's only the up and down
feature.
But this I love that, like Ican lean my chair back.
There's other stuff too, likeeven the front, like it goes
forward where, if your legs arelonger, and stuff which I don't
use because I'm sure my feet aredangling right now.
But um, yeah, I have.

(56:19):
I have a foot stroller.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I'm gonna turn the corner just a little bit, right.
So this was this was on thelast kind of episode that we
were Doing about the gaming,right?
Eric brought up a good Goodtopic it was.
It was about love language,right?
So hold on before we continue.
What is your love language?
I know people have multiple.
What is your love language?

(56:44):
What were your love?

Speaker 4 (56:45):
languages.
Minds is touching words ofaffirmation.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Okay, all right now.
Last episode I'm I want toremember it very well the love
language was Look, can lovelanguages be?
Can we have bad love languageslike?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Not bad, but we should include some of the
negative love languages, becauseit would offer more clarity
Versus then, because some of usdo have negative love language
what?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
but how do you even know if it's next?
I mean, it might be negative,but it might well exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
But if I'm, if I'm a Suffocator, like I know, my love
language, you hear, that thingis to suffocate you, like I need
to be Ah, clung, yeah, yeah.
So to me that that may not be aproblem, but it may be honest.
But if that's not included inthe love languages then it would

(57:46):
kind of be unfair for somebodywho would need what would.
It would be necessary to knowthat.
So I'm looking at suffocationas a beautiful thing, but I
might not like it.
Yeah, you might hate, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
So the question, what I remember, what you said, you
said, is, with draw, he saidthere you go.
That might be something so likeif you withdraw, you go to
gaming.
Is that possibly a lovelanguage?
And we, we kind of was justcurious, curious if it could be
the opposite, like withdraw,could that be a love language?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
That's exactly what it was.
Thank you for clearing that upfor me, no problem.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Wait.
So you mean like withdraw like?

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I'm gonna give you one fuss, cuz we're gamers,
right?
Okay, you know, let's just sayyou're man, he's, he could be a
gamer.
But you get that, you get thataffirmation from being on the
game and just sitting and beingon the discord, because You're
away from your, your love, yourloved one.

(58:48):
But you need that away.
You need to get away to really,you know, recharge yourself and
then come back to your lovedone.
You understand, like um again,how Global just said it.
I'm trying to get it out, but Ican't how you withdraw.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
A game might need to withdraw.
You might need at time, rightaway.
Or, and I'm just saying game,about musicians or people like
some people.
Their love language isamplified by them being able to
To withdraw right like step awayfrom the confinements of the
love that's with that person,person so they can like either

(59:23):
miss them or you know.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Have things of their self, go ahead.
We don't, can, we don't.
That's not listed as a lovelanguage, right, and it might be
something that's helpful,useful and something to
understand in language of love.
There we go.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Yeah it what he said about the missing them like that
.
That's one thing.
When you have people who arelike so clingy which that that
could be there is their lovelanguage.
They're like they want to be ontop of you, which is good
because you know that thisperson really loves you.
But there's times it's like youwant to, you want to have your
space to do your own thing, youknow, and there are times where

(01:00:00):
some your, your partner, won'tunderstand that.
It's more like damn, are yousick of me?
You tired of me, and stuff likethat.
No, I just want to do my ownthings, sometimes like it's not
like I'll be back later, likejust we go, we go sleep together
, just just let me do my thing.
That's that's how you know.
I mean I understood thatbecause that's that's happened

(01:00:22):
to me before, where it was likeI would stay up all night and
that was my fun and getting away, and then I'd come back to bed
and he was sleep and he's likewell, I was waiting for you and
I'm just like I mean I was, Iwas doing something, you, you
was doing your thing.
But just because you finisheddoing your thing, I mean I'm
gonna finish doing my thingbecause you finished doing your

(01:00:42):
thing.
You was doing yours too.
And I say none about it, youknow.
So it's more so like, yeah, you, you gotta, it's okay to have
your space, because when youhave your space, you it do give
you the opportunity To miss, youknow, your partner and I think
the same.
I mean I don't want to get intothe sex thing, but we gonna go
there.

(01:01:02):
There are a lot of.
There are a lot of.
There are.
There are people inrelationships who are very
sexually active, and I know, asfor me, I'm one of those people
like, hey, sex is cool, I'm goodwith sex, but when it's
something that consistent, likeif we're fucking like three
times a day with no break, it'snot gonna make me crave you.

(01:01:23):
I just had you like fiveminutes ago.
So there are people who feellike, if you don't, if you're
not giving that same energy thenext day, it's like oh, you're
not into me, no more, you don'tlove me.
And this isn't that like.
No, like when you give me time,you gonna see I'ma turn into a
nasty little thing.
Just give me some time, likeyou.
Just you're not giving me time.
So I feel like that's the samething as having space for

(01:01:46):
yourself.
Like people don't understandthat.
But, as I said, that's just me.
I know it doesn't work foreverybody else like that, but as
for me, I'ma be this, i'ma bemisled by the love language.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
When someone say they love languages, touch, and I'm
trying to touch you all the time, and then you're like no, no,
no, no, I'm like hold up you.
You said Then it's like no, butI also have a little bit of
withdrawal.
So I need my space alone, areas, things within my um, my

(01:02:21):
personal, involved in myfeedback loop of love that I
need.
That Requires me to be awayfrom you.
And this is what we said onepisode, like sometimes a person
need to have Nothing to do withwho they're sharing a love with
, and you kind of got to stepaway.
And then and and dreggoinitiated when he, when he

(01:02:42):
started talking about the gaming, because we didn't do a lot of
episodes on Um, the area hespecialized in, and that's when
I was like whoa, whoa, a lightbulb went off.
I'm like Hold up, there'ssomething else in it.
Then that's how we went into thelove languages, because we was
um, we end up taking intoconsideration that it's another

(01:03:03):
way to love someone outside ofjust the beautiful parts of the
love language.
I only want to say beautiful,the um, uh, the arrogant thing,
the arrogant love languages,like the stuff that we just
think is the fantasy.
Oh, love, gifts, touch, words.

(01:03:26):
We sent all the beautiful stuff, but that ain't how we language
in in reality.
Sometimes our language consistsof things that might, um be
considered a negative.
That actually amplifies thepositive More.
And I was like and that was aeureka moment for me and I was

(01:03:46):
like, man, we missing so much.
And then I we all went backafter that and started doing our
own personal Homework.
Yeah, you know, we like man.
We even talked off camera aboutit, that's how much it lingered
on was like man.
That's actually something thatis really needed.

(01:04:07):
That's tough, but it ain't.
It ain't.
It's not being expressed, butit would help so much just to
have that conversation in thoseHonesties available mm-hmm, um,
and I got one for you too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
As far as family members and maybe not everybody
might understand the gamingworld of they think you're just
wasting time or you just playingon the internet, is there
certain family members as you,as you pursue this, you, you,
probably the relationship Isn'tthe same because they didn't
understand it or probablysupport you from the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Actually, no, I haven't.
I haven't had that, at leastwith family members.
I know my dad.
If him, he always tells like mycommunity, like yeah, better
Thank me, like he'll be likey'all better Thank me.
Because it wasn't for me,because he, he's very over
protective when I was youngerand he kept us in the house and

(01:04:59):
when we were kept in the househe made sure we had stuff to do
and the stuff to do was gamingand if it wasn't gaming, he
would always buy us like all thenew stuff that would come out
when it whether it's like bikesor electric bikes or something
Like that, and we'd be ridingthem and stuff like that he did.
He just didn't like us beingout in the street.
So gaming is what kept meinside and probably you know as
much as I hated it back then notbeing able to live my life

(01:05:22):
Younger.
I kind of thank my dad becausea lot of the people that I
either hung out with or justKnowing a lot of kids growing up
in New York in general, theyare not doing good.
They're not so.
As for me, even though I stayedin the house and gamed, I was
Having fun and do us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Her mom used to be our ass on the game called gives
the work.
I'm sorry, here's my girl andher mom be ass on the damn.
Yeah, they're new yorkerstalking to the top notch level.
Bro, like what the like?
Who's that he's like?
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgive my mom, your mom, and they understand
kicking ass, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I don't know.
No, it's, it's true, that'sthat, that's.
It's been so long I even forgot.
But yes, my mom used to getdown in the games with me, so
she was with visits was part ofour squad and her mom had her
own squad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Like the mommy she had her own team.
Like no, not a mommy squad.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
No, it was just her own people guys it was.
It was guys was like see for mewhen I was, when I was gaming
with them, I was the only femalein their group.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
She was the first lady at TFK.
How about we say that that?

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
yeah, yeah, we had like a little clan and I was the
first girl to join that clan.
And as for my mom, she also hada lot of like dude friends, like
it was back then and even kindof now a little bit is.
It was really hard to Makefriends with female gamers
because in the, the gaming world, these women just love
attention.
You know, like I've dealt withit growing up and being on the

(01:06:56):
game, it's like if you, if youjump into a room with a bunch of
men who are your friends, andthen there's a girl in there, if
the attention is not on them,it's the attitude, it's the the
just, just everything, just thenegative energy that comes with
it, because they want to be thecenter of attention.
So, yeah, we even till this daynow like, yeah, I've got more

(01:07:18):
female friends, which I thankGod.
You know it's different now,but back then it was just, I
played with a lot of guys and Iwas just part of the guys, quiet
, like it was just part of it,but I enjoyed it, I didn't, I
didn't care, because I lovedgaming with them, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Don't it felt.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
It felt like a family , like we would get everybody to
go to work me.
I come from school, we all in agame playing together, we
playing all the time, and it wasjust.
It was nice.
I actually missed those days.
I was talking about thatrecently, like back then it was.
It was really.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
No, just being kids, no adult yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah the time.
Where do you see the future ofGaming going?

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
To be honest, I mean I know I ain't gonna get to
ninja status, but I mean I ain'tgonna.
I ain't gonna say I can'teither, but I'm hoping you know
to to be out there and, you know, show people the love that I
have for gaming and for the oneswho are also gamers and want to
, you know, going to the samepath.
I want them to know that theycan, you know they can do it,

(01:08:25):
because I didn't believe inmyself.
I didn't believe that I can,you know, get to where I was and
just by everybody coming in andshowing me the love you know,
that I didn't think that I cansee so quickly.
Yeah it just told me.
I was just like, well, damn,maybe, maybe I can do this.
You know I wasn't trying to dothis Professionally or, you know
, take this seriously.
But once I saw how I went, Igave it a try, even though there

(01:08:48):
there are there has beencertain people you know who
think like, oh, like, this isnot gonna get anywhere.
You know you're not gonna makeany money, you're not gonna make
a living, because you know theincome is like a up and down
thing.
You don't know what you'regonna make.
You know every month, becauseyou know it's.
It's not like a set in stonething.
Unless you get contracts withcompanies which I've gotten a

(01:09:09):
few of those you know wherethey'll pay you like every month
the same amount, along withextra stuff, whatever you know
goes into it.
But yeah, I'm just happy nowthat I've showed people that
yeah, you doubted me.
Now look where the fuck I am.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
What's your zodiac sign?

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I'm a Gemina.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
What's your favorite number?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
13?
.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
What's your favorite color?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
green.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
All right, next year you're gonna be biggest.
You're gonna be biggest ninja.
Whoa we gonna talk to somepeople.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
She's happy, great, make some damn money.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I mean Jim and I agree, I know you, I know you
have to take off soon, but I got.
I got a question, okay go ahead.
I got one question.
I just want you to break theice, cuz I know it's gonna be
out there.
It's exposure.
I want to expose this realquick.
Oh, please, please, just justsay it, and I know I'm hoping
you agree.
It is easier for women when itcomes to content, creating the

(01:10:14):
men.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Yes, absolutely, thank you, Thank you Absolutely
and then it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I feel like that's too silent now.
Do you think it's because thelooks or the winning, like Drago
said, it's important to bewinning?
How important is the winning?
Or do you think it matters ifI'm winning or losing?
I just look good, my setupsnice.
You know, I'm gonna have itmade.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Please say it right to be honest.
I think, when it comes to men,you need to be good at the game.
You need to be, good atsomething.
When it comes to women I wastalking to somebody about,
someone said I forgot what hername is, but they, pretty
privilege is a thing, that's athing you know.
Pretty privilege is the thingand you either looking good and

(01:10:57):
I and I tell a lot of femalethis too there's some girls who
I see play the game.
They don't know what the fuckthey're doing, but they making
loads of money why?

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Look you, or a lot of the times women do use online
if they're their assets to Pullit in, which, listen, I'm not
gonna do you boo.
If you got it, do it, you know.
But I'm just saying, yes, it isis definitely easier,
especially to like a lot of guyscoming.
They're like, oh you only youknow this is only happening for

(01:11:28):
you cuz you got boobs.
I mean, they don't say that tome because I don't have any.
But as for the other women whodo have cleavage and it's out
there is just like damn cuz.
I know when I go and I look I'mlooking like I want to see too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Oh yeah, by the way, yes, I am bisexual, so I do look
at women, but yeah, I also.
I also go and I look at thesame shit that men look at and
see why they drop money on them,even if they not doing shit
else.
In that game they're notwinning, they're not trying to
win, they're literally justholding a controller, looking
cute, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
So so, fellas, exactly that screen was she
sitting at?
No gaming, they're just justchatting like what we're doing
and making more money than allof us in this room combined,
just sitting there just talking.
So when she said being prettyis is a privilege, yeah, it's
100,000 percent therapeuticstuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I could, I could get a high.
We know people that go in andthat get a high just off of
going to strip club for money,about to say like, well, I'm not
gonna say for nothing, but you,you getting something from it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Yeah yeah, see.
No, the fact that you said thattoo.
There are people who do comeinto my stream and they're like
I have money and I'm not doingshit with it.
I need to do something with it.
So I'm dropping it on youpretty much like people say that
, like they literally say thatand they'll be like I know you
do this full-time here, here'sto support you.
I'm not doing shit with, I'mjust making money.

(01:12:56):
Like I'm like and I'm like I'mgonna stop you.
I got bills to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, I know broke, people do it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Yeah, that too, that, but see it there also.
Also there's a.
There's a lot of times wherebroke people do it, or or people
with money do it, and a lot ofthe times when it comes to
content creation, a lot ofpeople donate or they give money
in order to be Noticed or seenor always be talked about by the
streamer, because I know I'vedone it where it's like I have a
person who donates a lot andconsistently donates, and every

(01:13:27):
time they come in is just likeyou know, like yo like what's up
and they give you money, youput them out there and stuff
like that.
Their names is at the top ofyour screen, like they like shit
, like that too.
They like to be known as Idropped this amount of money in
this chat.
You know that they do stuff forthat reasons too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
But you and you do have the ones that that you say
hi, and they give it to you andthey just and then they leave.
Yep, yep, mm-hmm yeah and thenon top of that you have they.
They can do it.
I can't even say the word.
I'm not a nominal anonymously.
Yeah, you get those two and youdon't know who is from, and

(01:14:05):
they just keep moving, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Wow.
So, v, I know you, I know yougot a lot to do and we, we, we
interfere with what was themovie night.
It would have been a movienight, but I got one more
question too, like is thereanything you would do over if
you had to do over anything?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
No, I would do it exactly the way I've done it,
because I feel like I did it theproper way.
I didn't do it the way peoplewanted me to do it.
I did it with me beingauthentic and Not trying to sit
here and do what everyone elseis doing.
I did stuff for me and if youdidn't like what I did for me,
then you, I can't work with you.

(01:14:41):
I'm sorry, because I wouldnever change for nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
And gaming turn guys terms is it's GG.
I know what GG means.
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
GG.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Let him know what GG is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Yeah, so we say that outside of gaming too.
Now, like when you do somethinglike, oh, gigi's, I cuz.
I say Gigi's a people, be like.
What the fuck is that like?
What are you talking?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
about Somebody do something I'm not gonna.
Yeah, gigi, my bad.
Yeah, I bet.
So, like I bet, are we in thenight of Gigi, you know?
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, Iappreciate you, man.
Thank you very much, see.

(01:15:29):
I know you are a busy person,seriously, and you always been
100 with me since the start.
I'm glad you joined again.
I know I was gonna be able toget you.
I was like now fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Now this, not honestly.
This was fun.
This is my first podcast that Idid, to be honest, so yeah and
I know you guys honestly, I'vegotten people asked me a lot to
be on podcast.
But it's like I don't, I don'tknow a lot of people and I don't
know what their topics ofdiscussion, and I think I pulled
into this one because I'd knownDrago for so long over a decade

(01:16:01):
now when it's like I'm like,okay, he ain't gonna just pull
me into some crazy shit, youknow, just let me know, like
what's being said and what youknow.
You guys are gonna be asking meand I was pretty cool with it,
but you guys are definitely thefirst podcast I've ever taken,
so I feel most Interview.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So next, and when she's super big, we could double
back.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Double back and expose us, baby, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Look, I'm honestly, if you guys come up with any
other topics down the line thatI could probably a part of, I'm
down because, like I like thisis actually pretty cool because
I wanted to do this with mypeople too.
We might end up doing somethinglike this at some point, but
it's always good to haveconversation, get other people's
perspectives of things like Ilove that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yes, no, thank you, and our listeners, you know, we
just been trying to touch ondifferent topics and it's good
because the gaming world, like Isaid, drago, sparked the fire
and I think we're gonna be ableto answer a lot of questions.
So just thank you for your timeand we greatly appreciate all
the advice she gave us today.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Yeah, that was an episode exposure.
Yes, yes, 13.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Right green to them, to exposure and we are.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Listen, no real talk.
Hey, I'm gonna go by a bottle.
No, I need the blue one.
No, no.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Wait, are y'all done like that's?
That was it right you drinking?
Wait, my handles.
Oh well, shoot.
Well, if y'all want to followme, my name is miss vicious
everywhere, and that's with Z'smz V.
I see I owe you ZZ and you canfind me anywhere on all

(01:17:40):
platforms.
Type in that same name and I'mgonna pop up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Yes, now we good yeah , but what the fuck are you
drinking?

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
What's that bottle?
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Is that?
Is that a champagne?

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Uh-huh V.
I'm fucking with it and I knowyou drink.
You put me on us.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I have a wine fridge right here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Wow, you got a fridge now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
It's.
Look, it's right here, likeit's literally.
I have a whole wine fridge andit has like a different rose.
They bought that for me too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
You pull out no bottle on this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Now, I did it because if I have to drive, so I'm not
doing movie night?
Yeah, I'm not, do we?
I do a night skating with mypeople, so I'm about to go.
Nice, do some skating?
Quads, quads, um, I don't knowthe blade.
No, I did.
I was doing quads but code myfriend who I was just talking

(01:18:35):
about, he just bought me somerollerblades today.
So now I'm gonna use those whenI go.
So now I have both.
I can kind of switch them outwhen I want to.
But I've started onRollerblades when I was skating,
since I was younger.
But I wanted to learn how to dothe quads because I want to
dance in them.
I actually want to know, youknow that what I actually I love
the involvement man, I lovewhat you involved into.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
I was worried at first but then I look I had to
come back to pay attention.
I was like, yeah, we got it,you won.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not gonna be one of them.
Yeah, I ain't turn into themmotherfuckers and I know the
motherfuckers you talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
You don't need to.
You do it.
I'm ghosting your ass.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
No, no, no, no, okay, like even I even have a.
You know I have a OF, yeahright, but you know I don't do
none of that extra shit.
That's, that's not me.
But my man pull them in, no butlisten to me when I tell you
that's the one.
Y'all says something about the,the being a woman and a Conter
crater.
Like I said, the prettyprivilege is the thing I get

(01:19:35):
paid off.
A dumb shit, like shit, likeLike.
You see how he says some peoplecome in, they drop money on you
and they leave.
This one dude came into mystream, he goes, he showed me
the bottom of your feet andwiggle your toes.
I did that.
He said thank you, drop thehundred dollars and left.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
That's something I do .

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
I'd be like can you slap your kneecap three times,
then sickie thing knows if you,if you go drop some money, they
gonna do it, and that's what Isaid.
Like right now, like I do havea OF, I don't do no type of
nudity whatsoever.
You don't see nothing on therethat you will not see on a beach
.
But see me, in general, I don'tpost those type of photos on

(01:20:21):
Instagram at all.
I don't post nothing in me inthat.
So it's like in their mindthey're like oh, I've never seen
her in that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
I'm gonna go look, you know, and when I tell you
money been flowing in mm-hmm isthere any Warnings that you
would give to women as wantingto get into the game world, in
case there is any Male predatorsout there?

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Oh God, yeah like you have some in your DMs.
In the wild life, yeah, no thereare some and I like, even now,
like feet.
There's there's a lot of caseswhere women are getting killed,
like content creators, becauseof it's it's bad.
Like I, I always tell peoplewho are with me if you're with

(01:21:08):
me and because I do have a largefollowing on different
platforms, like I have a goodchunk of people on different
platforms and I've met peopleout here that Like, have friends
on their Instagram and whenthey post with me, they'll be
like, oh shit, that's vicious.
I watch her and I'm just like,oh, you see, you can.
When you post anything with me,do not post locations, don't

(01:21:31):
post any of that, because peopleare weird, men are weird, like
they're so weird and people like.
There was another case recentlywhere A guy was trying to.
You know he wanted arelationship with one of the
concert creators who was a.
She was on Instagram and shedidn't want anything like that.
She just wanted to be friendswith him and she went to a
concert, put the location of theconcert of where she was at.

(01:21:54):
He went, he found her, hekidnapped her, he beheaded her
and then posted her deadPictures in her discord to hold
her whole community to let themsee that he did it because she
didn't want to be with him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
So you delay your post, do you delay?

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Yep, I don't I don't.
Do it right there, nope I always, if I record something like see
, even now, like when I go tothe skating rink, I'll always
record it, save it.
When I get home then I post it.
I don't post anything and thenI anybody who I'm with I'm very
like serious with that shit.
I'd like do not post anythingwith me in it, because it's not

(01:22:31):
just for my safety, it's alsofor yours, because they might
know why.
They know who I am.
But you guys are with me.
That don't mean y'allmotherfuckers is safe, right.
So that's all.
I just be like.
You know, keep that shit tokeep it to a minimum.
If you're gonna post on, eitherpost it later, or if you want
to post your stuff, you couldpost where you at, with your
location.
Just make sure I am nowhere inthe video or pictures when you

(01:22:53):
do it.
You know, cuz that shit is.
It's scary, right, it's a scarysituation.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
We don't handle your business.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Yeah, I got my fucking phone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Listen, have a good time.
We we thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
All right, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Thanks for having me anytime Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Bye.
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