Episode 24: Goals, Grids, and Game-Changers: Transformative Visions, TikTok's Turmoil, and Battle Rap's Raw Artistry

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on?
I be your boy, the Global Zo,and you are tuned in to another
episode of Exposure, and I'mwith the gang.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Now we're going to get straightinto it.
Man, it's 2025.
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(00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now Y'all check it out you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
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watching Exposure Lovely.
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Hey man, new goals, feelinggreat, you Lovely.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
New year, new everything.
Hey, man, new goals feelinggreat.
You know I'm excited for theyear.
A lot of new music coming soon.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, sir, and that too.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And that too.
Let me ask, man, but are y'allthe type that like to set?
Do you believe in setting goalsbefore we jump into the new
year, or you just keep working,or do you really like?
Do you have a vision board?
Do you have a vision board, doyou write it down, or you just
keep working and it is what itis?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm not going to lie.
Since I got a little older, I'mon that type of vibe.
Now I got a calendar and I gota board.
I'm on that type of time ofwriting down all my goals, what
I want to do for the week, whatI want to put out, and sticking
to that plan, because I feellike if you write it and you see
it, it's different from justfreestyling it.

(01:47):
You know what I'm saying?
Heck, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Heck, yeah.
Yeah, I feel the same way too.
I feel like when I was youngerI didn't really care.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I didn't say I didn't plan, I didn't do none of that.
But yeah, now that you know wegot a little more, you know
wiser, definitely got a boardand definitely got goalset
definitely heck.
Yeah, now I use notes a lot too.
Um, you know, I'm saying I usenotes on, you know, an iphone.
Shout out to notes in theiphone, but I definitely map
everything out in there and Idid want to try that this year.
Uh, you know, I do got a visionboard.
Uh, I heard a lot of successabout it.
So I did get a vision boardthis year and I'm gonna see how
that works, because I got, likemy to-do list.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Could you explain that to me like what is a vision
board?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
vision board is.
I mean, there's different kindsyou know, and some people cut
out certain things that motivatethem, inspire them and put it
all together on it and writedown the goals.
So this vision board is kind oflike things I want to accomplish
and my to-do list and within atime frame.
So as I'm going, you know Imean I'm just checking it off,
I'm using it like in that senseto check it off.

(02:48):
But now you can actually lookat like that reminder is, you're
looking at it every day.
So you know, when I get intothe studio I'm looking at it
like damn, I keep workingtowards that goal because we got
to get that off the off thechecklist okay, right, me and
the lady got one like that.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Like so, every time we walk into a room we got to
split down the middle.
It's a big board, so every timewe walk in the room we can't
miss it.
So we always see it and wecan't forget it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So, yeah, we got one like that too so you've been on
it for a minute then uh, sincelast year yeah okay, and how's
it work?
Like now tell me.
I don't know, because I juststarted.
So how do you?
Is it working for you or likewhat?
What are?
What are the pros and cons?
Like do you have?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I hate to say it's competition, but it's kind of
like local competition that I'mclearing my side first, but it's
friendly competition, you knowwhat I'm saying.
So it's like every time she seeone clear on my side she's like
oh my god, babe, she's like,all right, I, I gotta get on my
shit, or, or, don't worry, nextyear is where it really starts
for me.
So it's friendly competition,but it works and it's really

(03:48):
good for the relationship.
I'm not going to lie, it reallyis All right.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
That was for the I never heard and I don't know
about duos doing it, but that'sgood to hear.
That, though, man yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That is good to hear that.
Keep it coming.
Keep it coming now.
Keep it coming, bro.
Outside of that brother.
The playoffs is here.
I don't know if y'all you knowsuper valentine coming up,
because I know you got the superbowl, then valentine's day is
usually a couple of days.
That's been going on for likethe past couple of years now,
man.
So how y'all feeling my team isout, I'm a cowboy.
Get that out the way.

(04:21):
So we out of there, we out ofthere.
I'm rocking with lamar, you'rerocking with.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, I was about of there, I'm rocking with Lamar,
you rocking with Lamar.
Okay, I was about to say.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm rocking with Lamar too, I am.
I'm rocking with.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Lamar, I guess I'm a I'm a low key hater of my team,
so I like him, but I hate on himat the same time.
The Dolphins I hate on them,you know, I hate on them at the
same time.
But yeah, we out.
But you know, I'm going to rollwith the Lamar, you with Lamar,
you with Baltimore too.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Well, we got to show up.
We know the trend for Baltimore.
We know they struggle in theplayoffs.
You know what I mean.
We know they always make it,but they tend to struggle in the
playoffs and Slam I feel likeyou know.
You're a football expert.
So what do you think they needto do different?
Is there anything you've seenthat needs to be done
differently to win against?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
the Steelers.
I think honestly they're doingdifferent already.
Like Lamar is throwing more,he's throwing the ball more.
You know what I'm saying.
It's not all on him to figureit out.
You know he got Derrick Henryback there, so it's like he got
weapons.
Now zay flowers I don't know ifzay flowers is injured he's not
playing this game, apparently.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
The knee, yeah, the knee, yeah, that's what
everyone's saying.
They count him out like do hehave enough weapons without zay?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
like that's the why, yeah, zay is not playing oh man,
yeah, I said the same thing,but you got mark andrews, you
got likelyly.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, you still.
You know them boys, you stillgot them.
That duo is still dangerous.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I like it, but you need them, weapons, man.
Like even Tom Brady neededweapons.
Like you need weapons, bro, andnot just one or two, you need
multiple.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.
That way you know it's spreadout, you know what I'm saying
and I'm with you like yeah, butwe said derrick henry, we know,
we know, we know the backfieldstraight right, we between lamar
, derrick henry, we know we gotthat, but with likely and mark
and mark andrews is gonna get asolid, what 80, 80 to 100, you
know I feel always what youalways do yeah, who, who's gonna

(06:20):
be?
that step up guy he would haveno choice.
I feel.
I feel like he's always got the.
He always amazes me at leastfor me when I watch Baltimore.
He's always going to have themtwo or three unique catches.
You know what I'm sayingthroughout the game those are
always guaranteed with likely,but now the amount of touches

(06:43):
I'm not used to.
You know what I mean Because Iknow what Zay he led.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
That.
This is what I got in my head.
If you're going to the SuperBowl, Lamar Jackson, you're
going up against Patrick Mahomes.
You've got to get past Patrick.
Everything got to be perfect.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I just it got to be, because that's like going up
against Brady.
He is literally the newBradyady.
To me, it's like for sure, nomatter what this man finds a way
, his team that's the thing.
It's not even just him, histeam finds a way to make sure
they win, win.
So I don't know now.
I ain't gonna lie.

(07:24):
I ain't even that muchconfident, no more.
I'm confident in Lamar Lamargoing to do his thing, but is
the team going to do their thing?
That's the thing.
And if he gets knocked off if hedoes.
We don't want that.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
If he does happen to get knocked off, do you think he
still deserves the MVP if?
You can't take that team overthe hump.
For sure, for sure, because nowit's looking like it's just a
statistic thing, like when itjust comes to stats.
Because then what if Josh Allenadvances?
I'm just saying, Although hedoesn't have the best stats he's

(08:00):
up there.
Does that change the narrativeof who deserves the mvp?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the mvp is based on regular season.
I don't think it should havenothing to do okay okay, yeah,
yeah, for me I don't think ithas anything to do with the
playoffs or who advancessometimes the mvp, not even in
the playoffs or on a winningteam.
For sure, if you had the bestseason, you, you had the best
season.
I feel like Lamar has had that.

(08:26):
He's doing things.
That's history, not on his team, but history.
This is a season where he didthings that's never been done in
history, and for them to say heshould have been a running back
, I feel like that just stampsit even more.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
He proved them wrong, you know what.
I'm saying oh, did he provethem wrong?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Exactly, but I like Josh Allen, he runs, you know
what I'm saying and they don'tgive him flack for that.
Yeah, but they give Lamar flackfor it.
You know, I feel you.
They kind of like take him outof his game, but they let Josh
Allen run and they don't, youknow.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, say he should have been running back.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, right right, right so.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't know man.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
If Lamar gets knocked off out of the playoffs, I
still think he should get theMVP of the league.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm with you, I'm with it, I'm with it.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm with it, Draco, you with it.
You MVP for him too.
He definitely deserves it.
I feel like he deserves it yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I already tweeted him and told him he getting it I
already tweeted him.
Hey, next MVP, yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's on.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Twitter.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, Damn dog, you know maybe I'm tripping.
I haven't used Twitter in.
I forgot Twitter.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I forgot all about the X, is it X?
It's all about the X here.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, I forgot all about X.
Man Damn you ain't the only one.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
All my homies done fell off on me.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I couldn't get with it, man, I couldn't get with it.
I tried, I really did, but Ijust couldn't, man.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I just go on there and tweet.
I'm not going to lie.
Every now and then I go onthere and swipe up, but man it
done turned into a whole.
Yeah, man, it ain't somethingyou can open up in public, like
I can't be with my kids andswipe on Twitter Like I can't be
in public at work and swipe onTwitter.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
You don't know what's going to?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
pop up on there.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, you know yeah.
No it's crazy man.
No, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's crazy, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I'm excited, I can't wait to see man.
And you know Kansas City alwaysbeen doing their thing, so we
can't take away from PatrickMahomes and Travis Kelsey what
they accomplished.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm taking away from them.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I do not want to see.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Patrick Mahomes win another Super Bowl Tired of him
Bruh, he low-key, got your boyeffect.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
He got that Brady effect, man.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Right Low-key.
That's that greatness bro.
That's that greatness bro.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's that greatness .
I guess I see how.
No, I don't see how, because Istill don't want them to lose.
But I'm not saying, I'm justtired of seeing the same team.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I want to see a new team end up with them at least
play a different team.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I wish that Lamar could play them in the Super
Bowl.
That's what I wish.
I think they need to changethat man.
I think they need to change thedivisions and how they all man
the best team, play the bestteam.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm saying, yeah, come on, it's teams that should
have made it to the Super Bowlbut they got knocked out because
they played a better team inthey same division.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, I'm with you.
That makes sense.
No, I'm with you.
No, I'm with you.
Switch it up.
We gonna find out after thisweekend, boy.
We gonna find out after thisweekend, man, when we, when we
do our next episode, by the timewe do, we'll be having a whole
different conversation, for sure, for sure.
And how y'all feel about tiktokshutting down, man, they saying
on the 19th.

(11:41):
You know I'm saying they'retrying to.
You know they might officiallyshut that thing down in the US.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh, you almost had me Boy.
I was about to say it's gone.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, I'm on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'm on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I got an artist page and I got a gaming page.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Alright, my dog, drago, ain't messing with.
Drago had a password issue andhe just said forget it.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'm not gonna lie TikTok be hating, though I'm not
gonna lie, tiktok is a funnyapp they be hating like certain
songs I post and then they'lltake the sound off.
Certain clips I post like, andI don't even say nothing crazy,
and they still take the soundoff so they mute it, like when
you saying that they mute you,yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Slam.
You gotta keep it under aminute under a minute yeah, if
you go over a minute they wantyou to, because I think, the way
they got the license, that youwould have to assign the music
in the catalog which they havethe license and that stream
points or however, that revenuegoes back to the artist.
But if it's over a minutethey'll mute you.
So you got to keep it right atthat 59-second mark.

(12:47):
You should be good posting yourmusic as long as it's not
offensive.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, yeah, I didn't understand it for a minute.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I kept struggling and I realized when I kept it under
the minute I was good, it keptmy footage up.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh, okay, because that kind of got me discouraged.
I my footage up.
Oh okay, yeah, because thatkind of got me discouraged.
I'm not gonna lie, but not alot because of that.
Trust me, all my homies be likebro.
Why you ain't supposed to beputting them like bro.
They be taking my sound offlike and I will literally post a
song and it will be my video,and somebody else post it, and
then they let them keep it upand it's over a minute, but, bro

(13:23):
, but is it under?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I can't remember okay , follow up on that why are they
keeping it on your page?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
and it's on mine and I was like they taking the sound
off on mine yeah, I don't know,tiktok funny bro.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I would say, watch that because the artists
like and I get it, like I.
I could only imagine if you wason a big platform.
You know the big of the artistsand you know there's a platform
that's using your record andyou don't benefit from it.
I think that's where they haveto watch it and be careful,
because I think, when I look atmy analytics, you generate
revenue from tiktok, when peopleusing the record as an artist

(13:59):
oh, okay, yeah, there is somekind of revenue and I ain't
gonna be no big, big stream.
It's not like a Spotify orApple, but you generate
something.
Yeah, you do get money, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I need all my coins.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, and that's it, and I think that's why it has to
be a certain time frame forthem to be safe, because after
that I started watching a lot ofother artists that do post
their clips If they don't attachthe record.
I know this is under a minute,they don't attach the record.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I know this is under a minute.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
And I'm glad you're on TikTok and Drago.
You got to figure it out.
If it stays, bro, you're goingto have to jump ship.
Just because we know socialmedia, we know how important it
is, we cannot have that mindframe that we too big for it, we
don't need it, especially withTikTok because it's broken a lot
of artists.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I know records.
I get some views on that bro.
Like even with my game andstuff like I get 6,700, 800
views, and I just started it.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'm talking about.
And another thing is like Ican't tell you how many records
I know, whether it's the hook ora certain part of the verse.
I can't even tell you who'ssinging yet yet.
But by the time I hear it I'mlike I know this song.
You know what I'm saying, and Iwould either.
I find some new talent.
There's a few r&b cats.
I love discovering r&b ontiktok, you know what I'm saying
, and I add it straight to myplaylist.

(15:12):
Once I find that record, I'mlike, oh, is this out?
And I catch myself adding themto my um r&b playlist, etc.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, you gotta put me okay, so we can't sleep on
platforms bro we can't sleep,you know and while I'm on it

Speaker 1 (15:26):
um, there's a new one , um that someone just sent to
me yesterday.
It's called fan base.
Uh, yeah, fan base.
Okay, um, I just created anaccount and it it's.
It's gonna serve the samepurpose, like it's here, just in
case another one goes.
This one is um I forgot thename of the folks man.
I see him on podcasts talkingabout artistry and record labels

(15:48):
.
I don't know his name.
I know he's smart orknowledgeable, but I think it's
funded by him.
It's called Fanbase and it'shere to just serve the artists.
There's no shadow banning,there's no gimmick to it.
It's just artists.
You create, you generaterevenue and you gain an audience
.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
So y'all might want to look yeah, look in the fan
base if you don't have ronleslie no I know ron leslie,
it's a bald-headed dude.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
He got a beard, um he kind of heavyset, but global's
low.
Yeah, no, it ain't me bro.
Damn drake, don't fill out thechip.
Nah, it ain't me, fam, it ain'tme.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
You done got a secret investment on me.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It ain't me.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
He's in the bag without trying to tell who's in
the bag.
Nah, man, I ain't going toleave my dogs not knowing,
because I just made it in thecap before I jumped on man.
So I'm like nah, let me telly'all boys to sign up with it,
man.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I'm gonna go ahead and check it out when we get out
.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I don't think it's gonna affect too much, but I
guess we'll see what's going on.
And because I don't know ify'all know, they say the TikTok
we have in thes is not the samethat's in china.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's fact y'all heard about that that they got a
cleaner version, a more saferversion okay, yeah, that's what
they need to do.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
They need to do that to x oh, you be seeing some
crazy stuff on x, right, what?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
you can see anything, anything, everything.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Bro, it works like this.
That's what I was telling you,bro.
Let's just say you likesomeone's status right, and you
don't follow them.
Whatever you like, it goes onmy timeline and it showed me
what you will actually like.
So it's scary.
So let's just say Van Damme,like I'm going to just throw it
out, I'm going to just throw itout, I'm going to just throw it

(17:51):
out there.
Let's just say you watched aflip of someone going at it.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now it's going to come on my timeline.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm like why are you showing me what he?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
like yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
That's not safe.
I see a whole lot of peopleLike all day I'm seeing people
that I don't follow, like I LikeI tweeted Elon Musk a thousand
times like bro, make this shitgo back how it was.
Like I don't follow thesepeople.
Why am I seeing they tweetsLike get rid of the follows?
What is the following for Ifyou still showing me people that

(18:19):
I'm not following.
Like If you pay attention to IG.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's starting to do the same thing.
Facebook too.
So I started unfollowingcelebrities.
I started following.
Unfollow.
I see them regardless if I, ifI don't follow them.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I see they put, I got you, so yeah hey, forget that
I'm knocking down my follow list.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
If I'm gonna see they post regardless, unfollowing,
and you still see it, that'sinteresting, ain't no point of
following them yeah, damn boy,that algorithm.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
A beast dog and it'd be like clickbait bro.
It's a lot of like emotionstuff to draw you in, like I get
on twitter, like when thekendrick and drape beef, was it
just?
Was a lot of that bro peoplejust a lot of opinions and I'm
like I'm looking, I'm like Idon't even follow this person
like why so?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
why is it yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
seeing people talking about this.
Why am I seeing these tweets ifI don't even follow this person
?
Like, why would I get it?
I don't want to keep seeingpeople talking about this.
Why am I seeing these tweets ifI don't follow them?
Like, it literally gets you mad, bro.
Like you know what I'm saying.
Like I don't get it.
I don't get why it's like that.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now, Then y'all boys going to put me on something.
Then I got to yeah, that'sinteresting, that, that's
interesting, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't follow this person, but you always see news
from them, always.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You don't have to follow people.
I will mute them, block themand I still will see them, bro.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I would say not irrelevant, so they don't show
up, pop up, and they still popup bro.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, they done changed that app, bro, that app
is wild, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That one's worse, bro , that that happens a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'm not gonna lie that one's worse um thread is
the same way.
Yeah, I don't even use threadslike that.
You don't use threads like that.
I got it, but I don't go onthere like okay, every now and
then I say something on it, butI'm not on it every day I got
you.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
No, that's that's.
That's cool, it's more filteredthan the other one.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm.
I'll have to throw that outthere.
It's way more filtered, justthe x.
Way more.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Because it's everybody else just saying their
thoughts and posting theirpictures, right?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, it's a whole bunch of fights and porn and all
type bro.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's crazy, that's all.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
X is bro, it's no.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Y'all pay for X.
I thought there was somethingabout a membership.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's IG.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's IG.
No, not threads.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
X.
No, not threads x.
Oh no, there's no membership.
That was a rumor.
Yeah, if you want to have a umcheck now you got to pay for it.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, if youwant to have a check, you got to
pay okay I was sure they payinga monthly subscription even
celebrities crazy that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I didn't know people was leaving, saying they was
going to leave and stuff andthey wasn't going to pay.
But they stayed.
Lebron James was one of them.
Yeah, they took LeBron's checkaway.
You going to pay?
Yeah, yo, you got to have thatbecause you know people do
anything.
Let's just say somebody elseget a fake LeBron page and they

(21:04):
get it verified.
And now everybody thinkingthat's the verified LeBron James
page you get what I'm sayingyeah, yeah.
That'll cause damage to your,you know.
Hell yeah so he had to playalone.
You got to what you going to do.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
This is true.
No, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Your likeness up in the limbo, what you going to do.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, go do.
Yeah, that's crazy.
No, that's crazy.
So in miami you know, I'msaying moving down a little bit
down south, about 45 minutes toan hour, depending on the type
of day in the traffic, you knowwhat I'm saying they created
their top 25 list for theartists.
Um, you know, palm beach was inthe uproar when we drop ours,
you know what I mean.
The city was on fire and nowit's calmed down.
But miami, done, dropped theirs.
First there was one for florida, you know, and I and I think a

(21:49):
lot of people was like, oh all,right, we, we stirred the pot
and then they created with theone for miami no, I know I share
with this person on now.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I didn't see it, I didn't see Palm Beach person on
there.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Everybody's so happy to help others from us, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, sir, yes sir.
So you know what I'm saying.
So they got the top 25, youknow on there.
So we got folks like Uncle Luke, you know, rick Ross, trick
Daddy Pitbull, jt, money, money,trina, flo Rida.
We got Billion Bird, you gotthe City Girls.

(22:31):
You got Denzel Curry, whichI've got a chance to do A little
research on him.
I never knew he was from Miami.
I know his music is a littledifferent.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
He know about the crib for sure.
Yeah, I was about to say.
I was just about to say he knowthe whole, he know all about
Spro, the DVDs.
You know every freestyle I donedropped on the DVD.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh, so you been on him, then you been on him.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
He been on me, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay gotcha, it's the other way around.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I guess I heard the name most of these guys it's the
other way around, like evenBerg, I'm older than Berg when I
met Berg.
I was like what up, bro?
And he was like bitch, bitchbro.
Like bitch, you older than me.
I'm only 25.
Like what the fuck?
What?
Berg just came out, as you knowas a youngin, so I always
thought Berg was older, you knowyeah a lot of these cats.

(23:24):
I'm'm a big homie too.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I ain't saying big homie, I don't make big homies,
yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Understood.
I was out before them.
No, understood.
You got the boy Ball, greasy,uh-huh.
You got Major Nine.
We got Briscoe, mike Smith,billy Blue, for sure, and the
Chris goes on.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
My brother, mike Smith man, a real, real, real,
one man.
Anytime I hit him anytime Icall him for anything never
switched up, never changed.
I know a lot of guys who hittheir pinnacle and then just you
know what I'm saying.
But, bro, one of the onesanytime I hit him, he uh, bruh,
let's knock it out, shit, I'm onthe way when we gonna do it at

(24:04):
how you wanna do it.
Always the same way, bruh.
Never changed up.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And y'all got a record together, right?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
We got a few records.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, I know, I seen a video.
I feel.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm way back.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Even before that, that's what I'm saying.
Hit him, he hit back, and samefor me he used to hit me and
same thing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Um, he's doing the slide ain't change up, same way.
He's still the same way, bro.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah he's still on the grind big respect.
Right, he's doing the samething what I'm trying to say.
We need to be doing you'retalking about spin the block,
yeah, man, and even that, justtrying to help, just give what
we want, what we want.
You know what I'm saying Fromour city and these people who
got these platforms.

(24:51):
And you know, help, that's it.
There's nothing wrong withshining a light on these people.
It's only right, Absolutely.
So I love that and why he'sstill trying to be an artist.
You know most artists would belike nah, I'm going to wait.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's still lit right now andstill doing it, yeah, and still
doing it, still doing it.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
No man, I love it.
I love it.
It cost this much $0.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
$0, dog but he keeping it alive.
And Drake I don't know ifyou've seen Spend the Block, but
he picks up the rapper.
They drive in the car and theyput together, like a nice you
know, anywhere from like eightto ten minutes a day.
They top songs and they performthem live in the car while it
drives through the streets.
It's called Spend the Block.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
He was even doing the OTM Fridays before that.
Like every Friday they wasdoing freestyles where he had
somebody come up and spit averse like even back then but
way before he did started doingthat.
That's just new.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
And who's doing this?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Smith, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think he just did one with Busta.
Free.
He just did one with Busta Freeand I believe he got.
Billy Blue coming too, yeah,and Bruno Marley, I've been
seeing him, man, I follow them.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's a lot Piccolo.
You done did a couple peopleman.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Paying homage to him, dope.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Paying homage to him, the new artists too, the new
artists too, you've been doinglike artists that I don't even
know.
They just they from Miami, theyfrom the crib.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
So Well, see, slim, that's family size, or
everything.
He has been grinding for a long, long time.
Right, but no, for example, Iknow he younger than a lot of

(26:34):
cats we name on that list andhe's the he's one who's actually
created a platform?
Outside of himself and he'sstill showing the love to the
people within that circle,because he around our generation
, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I feel like the other generation up was like oh no,
it's me, you get what I'm saying.
It was more standoffish, likeit's me.
Forget everybody else.
Our generation, I feel like wewere like hey, hey, man, come on
, let's you know what I'm saying.
Push each other up.
So now it's like we doing thesame thing that we were going to

(27:10):
done for us and I feel likethat's what's motivating him to
do that, because that's whatmotivated me to do everything.
That's my old be your own boss.
That's what I'm trying to teach.
So you don't got to go throughwhat I went through as good as
the artist.
You think I am look at what Iwent through as good as an
artist.
You think I am look at what Iwent through, so I'm trying to
teach you this.
So you ain't got to go throughthis.
You know what I mean and I thinkthat's what it's all about.
It's like one hand watch theother man, the helping hand can

(27:33):
change a lot and I feel likethat can change the culture of
the whole Miami scene.
Just from seeing that oneperson do that can change the
whole scenery, you know, andmake ross might see that and be
like damn, mike smith doing that.
Man, let me tighten up and goahead.
And you know I'm saying youknow, you never know who would
motivate, but that's the type ofthings that have we have to do

(27:55):
as artists.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Man like that's a responsibility yeah, yeah it's a
responsibility I like it, Ilike it.
I hope you keep it going.
You know, I'm saying Because Ibe tuning in.
Even Busta Free, there'scertain records.
I was just like oh shoot, thatis him.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
That is his record.
Every time I tell, I tell bothof them boys, like the underdogs
on top, the underdogs on top,that's what it is, man.
The underdogs is getting theirshine.
You just got to keep going.
That's it.
You got to keep going, man.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yes, sir, so no man.
So I guess is there anybody?
Do you guys feel that you knowthat's not on the list you feel
probably should have made it?
I mean, I think it's a nicelist, you know.
I feel like we know, I knowabout 85% of that list, you know
.
But is there anybody from Miamithat y'all heard that y'all
bump and felt like damn, thisperson should have been on that

(28:50):
list, or no?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I haven't seen the list.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh, it's in the chat.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's Uncle Lou Quick.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Raw Trick Daddy Pitbull JT Money Trina.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Flo Rida.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Berg, berg City Girls .
Is there, curry?
Oh, number, who is that?
Oh, major nine, yeah, majornine.
Okay, a space goes perp.
Shout out to my dog.
Space goes man.
A real one too man, okay, see,yes briscoe Mike Smith, billy
Blue yep piccolo Mm-hmm.
Jackie O, okay, lost Tribe.
Lil Dredd, salute Lil Dredd.
Yeah, bushy B D30 Mm-hmm.

(29:33):
Fob.
Poop, mm-hmm GK Fly.
And then Soulja True Livin'.
Yeah, I know bruh.
Soulja True Livin' I know bruh,you look real familiar, okay.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
What's the timeline on this, bro Soulja?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
True listen.
We don't know Dr.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I know through Bird.
I know there's Bird artists,but he a newer artist to me.
I don't really know the wholescene but I feel like he a newer
artist.
You know D30, I don't knowpersonally, I haven't heard of
them.
Fob Pook the last 1, 2, 3, 4, 5that could be the newer

(30:12):
generation that they put onthere, but those guys I don't
really know.
And that's just me personally.
I'm not saying that theyshouldn't be on there.
For me, as an outsider, lookingat miami top 25, like that's
tough hey, city girls should notbe on there, bro.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I'm sorry, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
But what you mean for the new generation, yeah, yes,
they carry weight.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, hell bro, jackie o made the list like and
jackie gave us, I think maybeone album.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
One album, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.
You know, All I can say for meis the last ones are
questionable because I don't Ifwe compare them to the other
artists that's on that list, Ifeel like they should have been
on the top 25 new generationDade County rappers, you know,

(31:06):
because these guys look youngerthan everybody else on here.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
For sure there's only one person I would.
There's only one person that Ihad my eyes on and I know he got
enough body of work.
If we talk about albums,singles, radio and you know, oh,
yd should be on there.
Who YD YD?
I was going to say kid Omar.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Damn you right.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But see, I feel like I'm going to take that back.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I feel like that's the newer generation.
Okay, I feel like they would beon the newer generation.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Newer generation.
Okay, it's like now.
Okay, I got you.
Then.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Because they came after these guys.
Yeah, it's hard to put theminto the same category as a rick
ross, a trick daddy, a flow.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like yeah, that's why I'm coming from.
That's kind of tough.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But that's just me.
I'm not from there.
So I, who am I?
But you know, that's just myopinion.
I would make a, I would havemade a new generation, even with
um denzel and space yeah, okay,I feel they're more in my
generation to me.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I feel that way that's why I was a little
shocked.
As I see it, I kind of feellike, well, they must be going
off for some kind of credentialsa little bit, because these are
newer cats, because you couldmention Bizzle, you know what I
mean.
Rest in peace, you could.
You know what I mean, you can,you know you can.
You can find them locals too,you know I'm saying so.
That's the only person I didn'tsee, and I know the record he

(32:36):
had with tokyo jet went hard,like I know the ladies were.
I don't see him performing thatthing in tallahassee and I mean
word for word shut that bitchdown even rob banks like they
got yeah, that's what I'm sayingman, things like these are all
opinions, man.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
At the end of the day , nobody should get in their
feelings about these type ofthings.
You know, I know, as, as asartists, we all take our craft
seriously and we love it andit's passionate and you know we
don't want nobody to down us butat the end of the day, this is
somebody's list and you got torespect that person, everybody
over they're trying to stir thepot of the day.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
You're not going to win everybody over.
They're trying to stir the pot,bro.
That's exactly what they'retrying to do.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's just what it is, bro.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Slam.
We're going to make a producerone and see if everybody on here
is going to keep the sameenergy.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I love it, you love it, I love it, I love it, I love
it.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I love it.
I just feel like, at the end ofthe day, man, if somebody
listen that person, how yougonna tell them they not
credible like?
You not credible, so it's likeit'll just be a long argument.
So, at the end of the day, man,nobody should be getting in
their feelings or taking thistype of thing to heart.

(33:54):
Keep working.
It is what it is, man.
Keep working.
Yeah, just keep working, man.
You top 25 on somebody's list.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I should be top 10 on everybody's list.
Look out.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
We're being great, bro, and that's why I feel like
a lot of people are not ready.
Yeah, to be great, you have tobe ready for that, bro.
That's like you know how manypeople be on these people uh
pages, hating, and you know I'msaying like you gotta ignore
that, bro, let's go.
That's what's gonna come withit.
You're not gonna be the best toeverybody.

(34:32):
You, you, you, if you got thelove, you gotta have the hate
it's.
You can't just have all one.
It don't.
It don't work like that,brother, right, right, it don't
work like that.
And you and you got to be builtfor that.
You got to be built for it,tough for it, because the bigger
your status, the more hatersyou gonna have.
You gonna have people that loveyou too, but that's just,

(34:52):
that's just what come with it,bro, and you've been out here
you can't, you can't get tootrapped up in the noise man no
get it, let it get you off yourrocker you gotta
stay focused out here and I tryto like I sometimes I do that.
Sometimes I get so locked inand focus on the people that's
not there and the people that'snot.
Nah, man, focus on the peoplewho do think you are in the top

(35:12):
25.
Focus on those people, thesepeople over here, who don't
think you're the top 25, don'tworry about them.
Focus on these people who dothink you're in the top 25.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yes, sir, why you over here.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So much giving them all the attention.
Not these people over here andyou ain't, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's like you got to lock in on the people who locked
in on you.
Man, that's what it is.
No, that's what I said, bro,regular life, artists, whatever
it is man Just lock in with, whosee you as how you see you.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's facts.
I'm with you 200%.
I'm with you 200% Speaking ofthat.
So let's talk about our cityand the movement we got going
and what y'all hearing, whaty'all seeing.
I want to definitely firstshout out to Triple J Happy 50th
, my brother, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Man, that boy is that boy's birthday.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Man that man looks like he just turned 30, man.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Always man Dope man so on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
January 26th he's celebrating his birthday party
from 5 pm to 10 pm.
He got Scarface pulling up.
The one and only you know what.
I'm saying that's going to beat the Riviera Beach Marina
rooftop and banquet hall.
They got DJs on the ones andtwos.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
They got DJ Relo and DJ T-Mo.
Og wanted to sign me.
Man, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's what's up man.
Uh, you know, for bottles andtables reservations, y'all gotta
hit up the one and only rohanman.
So you know, I definitely uhpull up and uh support that man.
It's nice man, I want to.
I want to be in the building tosee that go down.
That's legendary.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
So is he performing, did he say, if he performed, he
ain't?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
say nothing.
He ain't say nothing.
I just know they're gonna.
I just know they're going to dothat thing there.
So I was like, oh, that's a bigthing for the city, that's dope
to come out.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Legendary man.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Legendary bro, not just in our city, but Florida
period oh yeah.
Florida Rap period.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Rap period.
Man, yes, sir, tripp, we'll seeyou for sure, for sure, for
sure.
And as far as music or anymoves man, we got what Rob.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Revenue yeah, man.
Man is going crazy.
All over social media he'sgoing crazy.
He was on Bootsy Daughter thingand then from there he just off
the porch freestyling, justrapping everywhere.
Man, and I feel like the cityneed to go ahead.
Give them that support.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So he one of the ones Right now, I feel.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
He been one of the ones.
He been one of the ones.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I feel like he just Putting his best foot forward.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Now you know what I mean.
He like Putting his best footforward and I feel like Just one
of the ones that the cityshould.
It's a couple, but I feel likejust one of the ones you know we
should.
Let's go ahead and make ithappen, man hey.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Palm Beach.
Let's do it.
I found out about him throughthe.
I want to say it's the Boosieplatform.
That performance piece did goviral and I think you know I was
just like oh, where he from.
And everyone's saying he's frompalm beach, his own.
And what I like about buddy is,you know he, you could tell
this raw emotion.
You know I'm saying he comingfrom the heart with it.
You could tell this stuff hedone, lived and and seen.

(38:19):
I want to give a shout out.
I don't know how big his teamis or if it's just all him.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
The consistency piece you know what I?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
mean putting out that content, putting out that music
, uh, hitting up those platforms.
He saw it worked on this one.
Let me continue to hit up otherplatforms and keep that
momentum going.
He ain't feel like he made itand stop.
I feel like I'm constantlyseeing him grinding and working.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
So, uh, shout out to the team, shout out to himself,
and uh, and I feel like he didhis own thing, like that's one
thing I want to say.
I feel like he he went his ownpath.
Like a lot of people washitting me up after that like
why you won't go on like listen,man, everything ain't for
everybody yes, sir you see a bitjump off the wall.
Did you go jump off the wall too?
Because you look cool like,yeah, everything ain't for

(39:06):
everybody.
Let people have their momentand have their path.
Your path might be different itmight not be your time, you it
might not work for you how itworked for him you know what I
mean.
Like I, I love that he.
He went his own way and set hisown train, following behind
nobody.
He ain't trying to do just thedrill music how other people
doing he doing his own thing.
You know I'm saying givingpeople pain and substance music.

(39:29):
He ain't got a hundred chainson, even though I'm probably
sure he could.
But he's not trying to portrayan image to the younger
generation, knowing theywatching this.
You know what I'm saying andthat's how I come off.
I'm trying to give you bothsides.
I'm gonna let you know bothsides, the good and the bad.
I ain't just gonna give you theoh yeah choke guns and be out
here drilling and killing nah,man, it's stuff that come behind

(39:50):
that.
Yeah right, and it ain't goodhe was drilling and killing.
Nah man, it's stuff that comebehind that yeah, and it ain't
good, for sure you know.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
For sure, definitely revenue.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
For sure, let's go ahead and make that happen, man.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I'll see if we can get him on the platform.
That'll be dope, that'll bedope.
I would love to talk to him andhear his take his story and
what he trying to go with it.
1900 Rugrat was another personI've seen on the.
Is it on the radar?
He was on the radar too right,yeah, so I don't know if y'all
know, you know they based out ofNew York.
Who what On?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
the radar.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, oh, I kind of figured, you kind of figured.
Okay, I was about to say ify'all didn't know.
Yeah, I kind of figured thatout, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Okay, yeah, so I was just doing research because for
some reason I thought they wereSouthern, because I just yeah,
for some reason it felt.
It just felt that way, I didn'tknow it was based out of New
York, so that's dope.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
No, I knew it was New York.
Okay, that's good for New York,because the way they All the
artists going to New York, youknow that's the only way you
finna catch that many artists onyour platform.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
But I feel like that's so now.
I feel like you know how thatonce upon a time damn, I want to
expose our age out there.
But I felt like even back inthe day, that's what all you
knew.
Like you had to go to New York.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Like you felt like that's what it all was.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
And the South got like you, you know.
Then when the stuff started, uh, making a name for itself, when
we got respected, then outletsstarted happening outside of new
york.
So I guess I was a littleshocked because I felt I thought
it was, oh, this is anothersouthern platform somewhere
around here.
And then when I heard new york,I'm like, oh, one time for new
york getting back back in thatgroove.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'd be seeing, I'd be like howthey got him on there.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I'm saying They'd be going to.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
They got Mario on there a bit singing.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, this ain't in the.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
South game.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
You see what I'm saying.
Yeah, nah, man, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
This is NY bro.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
It's probably on his press run and that's dope then
yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
So yeah, that's where I first saw buddy I didn't know
he was from my area, though Ididn't either.
That's what I'm saying.
Shout out to my homie dj 14 yeah14, the one who brought it to
my attention oh yeah and it'sabout to be the biggest kid from
palm beach and I'm like how yougonna say he's about to be the
biggest and I ain't never heardof like I ain't, I don't know
who he is.
And then he was like watch, Iknow you seen the video.

(42:16):
And I was like huh.
He was like told him like I'mshooting school.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I said yeah, yeah, that's him.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
He was like see like damn, that's crazy yeah, but
that just shows how the citydon't support like that game.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
So do you feel like it's because it's like the
northern tip of Palm Beach thatwe don't acknowledge like that,
like, let's be a hundred goahead where you from.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
If you from the crib we post to get behind you from
Loxahatchee, foxahatchee, fromDelray going in.
If you from Palm Beach, be fromLot's of Hatchies Fox of
Hatchies be from Delray TerrayBoynton.
If you from Palm Beach, countmy bad, my bad, delray, but if
you from the Creole gang, likewe supposed to support it, bro?

(43:06):
It don't matter the type ofartist, you know what I'm saying
.
It don't matter, it's likeKendrick LA getting behind
behind.
Kendrick, he's not the regularla rapper, he's not game banging
, but it's his time behind him.

Speaker 3 (43:18):

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yes, bro, that's, that's what I was,
that's what I'll be trying toexplain to people when I say
palm beach don't support likethat, like yeah, they support,
but we support what's already.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Do you feel like we support what's already?
Don't need it?
It's already out of there whenwe come in?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
because we can't say that palm beach got him on no no
, nobody can take that credit.
No, it's just like g40, likeanother, like another, he,
another youngin that's beenputting in work.
You know what I'm?
saying like but our city don't,the whole city won't get behind
the artists and push.
It's just, it's too muchinvolved, it's too much.

(43:59):
You know, I feel likeeverybody's separated instead of
all right, once we got this oneperson, that's going, let's all
get behind them and go.
The next person, what?
All get behind them and go.
That's that.
That's how these people aregoing from their cities, bro.
That's how it happens.
It's not from magic, you know.
Yeah, but my little homie, dj14, shout out to him because we

(44:22):
was talking about it yeah.
We was talking about how thecity don't support and how these
artists.
He was saying how artistschange once they get on.
These artists, like.
He was saying how artistschange once they get on.
And I'm like you can't reallyblame the artists because if the
city not supporting me, then Imake it.
Why am I, finna, come back tothe city and show love If the

(44:42):
city wasn't showing me lovebefore I made it?
Y'all ain't help me give Like.
That's just how it is, bro.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
You can't get mad at these people, but do we not
change that narrative though?
Isn't that what we?
We kind of speak on it, andthis is what we kind of doing?
Like we all are artists in somekind of way, but we also still
love the city and what we do.
Enough to say let's createplatforms, let's share our
knowledge.
You know, I mean like you wasvulnerable as hell on the first

(45:11):
episode.
You put it all out there.
It was no secret of whathappened, what worked for me,
what didn't work for me.
Hey, what y'all need to bedoing if you're an upcoming
artist and you know, van Damme,this is what you need to be
doing.
If you ain't, do like if I wascoming up in this generation boy
, you done dropped the gemsright there, like I'm making

(45:31):
them notes and I'm going to beokay.
He said boom, he talked aboutbe your own boy.
We laying it out and we doingthat.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
That's how the homies who raised me, that's how I was
raised Right, you don't hold itin, you give it out.
You get a game out.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You supposed to?
I don't play to coach, bro, ifI get lucky.
I'm just saying if it just sohappens like even when I look at
my own interlinks, for example,it ain't Palm Beach the number
one streaming I got places inFrance and Paris and certain
places, I got one record with amillion views and it has nothing
to do with my city.
But that don't mean if I makelike I'm just speaking for

(46:09):
myself, right?
That don't mean if I, if I gota chance to change the narrative
of the city, that don't mean Iain't going to come back and put
players on or give someconnects and say you know what,
shit, although I got a differentcrowd where they dance, you
know what, let me have somebodyelse open up for me.
I could make people networkLike we got to.

(46:30):
Still no.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I agree.
It's easy for us to say, it'seasy for me.
That's why I say I can't reallysay, because I'm not in that
position.
Like me personally, I used tosay the same thing about
football players.
I used to be like bro, like howthe fuck could we change Plum
Beach?
And like get everybody Poppingaround these bitches, get shit
better.
Like Bro, we got a whole bunchof niggas in the NFL, we got

(46:55):
some of the most footballplayers in the NFL.
Why them boys don't come backin?
You feel me?
Drop bags and get everybody,get an artist.
How you gonna say that when thecity don't support it's easy to
say that to them.
But it's like you ain't helpedme get here, bro.
You didn't give me that pushthat I needed.

(47:18):
But now that I'm here, you wantme to come down here and help
you now.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
You wasn't with me shooting in the gym.
I'm on, bro.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
So okay, it's not everybody.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Hey, once you on, come back to the city, we ain't
going to support you, but onceyou make it, you from here.
Hey, that's my dog, I went toschool with him.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Hey, nah, boy, okay so Boynton High football field
who helped?
Like you know, Lamar helpedrestructure that, Not Boynton
High, Boynton Beach Bulldogs,Like you know, their new advance
football field.
He played a role in, you know,making that look presentable and
appealing.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
He done followed me.
He done retweeted some videos Ipost.
He ain't gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
But all I'm saying okay if I'm not okay if an
artist makes it.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That's a rare few, though, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I just feel like at least put something.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
That's get supported.
That's like me.
That's like me.
If I made it right now.
Right, if I made it right now,I'm going to come back and show
love.
But a person from the outsidelooking in and be like, yeah,
they supported Van Damme.
You get what I'm saying?
That's bias.
Like they supported Van Dammehe one of the biggest artists.
So it only made sense.
You get what I what I'm saying.

(48:40):
Yeah, try to think about theseartists that don't get the
support like they should.
Like I said, as air man, air bwas supposed to go, bro was like
, come on, bro.
Like kendrick before kendrick.
Like what are we talking about?
Andre 3000, like come on, likelet's get real.
And he really from the crib yeahand really from the trenches
this is for sure but because hemight not look how I look, got
dreads and dress, high dress,tattoos and everything.
The city not gonna get behindit.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
You get what I'm saying and that's wrong no, I
mean, it's tough boy, this is,this is, this is something we
need to but I tell you what, ifwe want to get better, if we
want to advance, if we want tobe acknowledged, we got to
figure something out we got tofigure something out bro the
only thing I feel it is is lovefrom where we love where we from

(49:25):
, bro, if everybody love, trulyloves palm beach, like like
miami love dade county, when yougo to dade county, they love,
they come, keep saying it.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
These places they love where they from, bro, it
don't matter if it's abasketball team, football team,
rappers, whatever, they justlove it because they love where
they from yeah you know what Imean and they rep it.
We got to get back to that typeof energy.
That's it.
We missing that in palm beach.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
We don't really have that no more let me go ahead,
let me throw something.
Let me throw something outthere.
I feel, um, I feel in in a way,just just for exposure, um, for
palm beach, um, we got, we gotevents that's happening here and
we don't, we don't, we don'ttry to take over, not really
take over, but but be a part ofit.

(50:12):
So, like an example, like wehave, we always have a downtown
event in almost all our citiesdown here.
Right, we got the fair, we gotthe fair here.
Why nobody trying to go perform?
Knowing that if I was hot and Ihad a hot song, I would have

(50:33):
tried to find some type ofcontact at the fair to see if I
can go perform right to getpeople to come out.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Right now I don't know how that works, but I don't
even think we in the city wherethat would happen, where that
would work well, we gotta try,you would have to be like.
I don't feel like they wouldeven give us a chance.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Listen, you see when, see now we fighting each other.
Now see, you see what I'msaying.
We're not, we're not evenwilling to even try or try to
see who's the head of it, or ortry to be even be.
I hate to say it, but it'salmost like getting into the
politic wars with it.
But yo, we gotta go talk tosomebody to see if we can get it
now, because this, this willcontrol in our city right now
yeah, it's, it's.
It's in the city, so why not seeif we can perform to even get

(51:16):
it's making the city money?
Yeah, to perform on stage, likelike the fair.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Again, the fair is here, even things like the
Kravitz Center and boom stufflike that.
I ride by it and I be lookingat the people performing.
Like not one person from palmbeach perform here.
Like not one artist y'all goteverybody is.
It could be from all over thecountry, but not one palm beach
artist like a dirt in chicago,like you performing her.

(51:44):
You get what I'm saying.
The chief keep is performingthat.
That was in chicago and itwasn't that much shooting and
stuff.
Like they have you performingher jeezy if that was in atlanta
.
He's performing that little baby, he's performing her bro, right
right from a place that hasthat vision, yet where it wants
to help urban artists.

(52:06):
If I'm making sense to you, youget what I'm saying.
Where we're from is just wherewe're from you know, I don't
think our city has that.
I'm not talking about us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know I got you.
You know I'm just being realabout it.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know, we from Palm Beach, we from the hood,
but outside, like y'all, fromwhere Trump been at, like it's a
whole bunch of white people.
That, but outside, like y'all,from where Trump done been Like,
it's a whole bunch of whitepeople.
That's how it, that's thereality of it.
So a lot of those people thatare here don't want that Like,
they don't want that energy youget what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
When we have these rolling louds or we have SunFest
and stuff like that, half thesepeople are not even from the
area.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Thank you, it's still showing the area love.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
How has, I like what you said, sunfest, that's
downtown right.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Right here, right here Right here.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I've never performed at a Sunfest.
Why, how?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Why not?
We don't, we're not trying tohit that door.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
There's a yeah now.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'm one of the biggest artists from the city.
That should have been done,then.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
That should have been done.
I could speak on some fest,though.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
But it wasn't at.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Sunfest, okay, I want to hear Go ahead Global.
No, I'm just saying I know alittle bit of it because I used
to get free tickets to it andstuff like that for a good
amount of years.
But with Sunfest they do have awebsite website and the artists

(53:35):
is uh, local artists areallowed to um, I hate saying
local independent artists areallowed to uh submit their music
, uh.
But here's the thing about uh,some fest, they, they, it's,
it's they like you can't justsubmit and say, okay, I want to
perform, they want uh, epk, I'mand I'm.
Just they want like an epk,they want to know your followers
on certain platforms, they wantto know they give you like a

(53:59):
good ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what kind of?
They do do a thorough search.
So what I'm saying, hold on.
But I want to say this is likethe average artist, I feel,
Drago, if they go on the site toregister, they probably would
get frustrated or don't have the, the, the, maybe the skill set

(54:19):
or the time to fill it outproperly and to submit it to
really be considered.
I don't see the average artistdoing that.
Most artists want to be able toget the call and be like hey,
you performing, bad, you seewhat I'm saying.
So now, as a independent artist, and be like hey, you
performing, bet, you see whatI'm saying.
So now, as a independent artistand you know this is going to
expose me because I seeludicrous rock the hell out of a
a sunfest, by the way, you knowI'm saying it's like that's a

(54:43):
different crowd.
You want to be in front of anaudience that you probably don't
look like you.
One thing I can tell you whenyou perform in front of an
audience that ain't a bunch ofus is that if you have a website
, you're gonna see your hits gofrom five to ten a day to 300 if
you're selling merch.
You're gonna sell 20 to 50shirts if you've never sold them

(55:04):
before.
That was the biggest experiencefor me, when I'm reaching out
to platforms that are alreadybigger than me and don't really
need me, is that when I doattend and I get lucky, is that
I do reap the benefits of beingexposed to that different
audience.
So some fest, it is some work,though Slam, it is some work but

(55:25):
they're not going out.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
They're not going out to get artists.
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Hold on hold on hold on Slam.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
We know they got.
They have their, theirrecommending.
You know their requirements togo by.
So, bro, it's still home.
We know that we, we, we know wegot plenty of tracks.
We ain't got to have that trackto go and submit.
We know what we would do to getour crowd, we know what song

(55:57):
works.
But if we know what we need todo, that's just one on the board
, that's just one thing, and wejust can work it.
Bro.
It's law everywhere.
There's laws everywhere, bro.
We just got to abide by it.
Bro, we just have to.
And if that's home and that'swhat they want, let's do it from
home.
We can always go somewhere elseand do it.
We got plenty of those areasand do it.

(56:19):
We can leave home and go do it,but you already know home ain't
having that.
We got rid of the clubs likethat.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
We ain't got no club down here like that.
That's kind of what I wassaying basically.
So you basically said exactlywhat I was saying.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Bro, we just got to try to hit the door, bro.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And the reason we don't have clubs is once again.
I mean, you know, I was outsidefour or five days a week once
upon a time, but we do not knowhow to conduct ourselves.
Dog, I'm going to keep it abuck, bro, if I step on your
shoes and I apologize and Igenuinely look at you and you
like my bad bro.
Can I get you a drink?
Why are we tussling for bro,like what's the like?

(56:58):
Why you can't accept?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
that, see, that's, they got a flip side.
That's not everywhere, though.
No, it's not everywhere.
That's depending on the clubyou go.
Well, fam, I'm speaking forthis is urban club.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I'm talking about the only few urban clubs we had.
Look the.
Tko.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Go ahead, wait, wait, wait.
I don't like to frequent theseclubs, like I don't put myself
in these positions.
No, and I'm giving you.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I'm speaking from what I've seen, like if it's not
a shootout, if it's notsomebody getting stabbed.
If it's not a fight, fuck upthe's.
Not somebody getting stabbed.
If it's not a fight, it fuck up.
The vibe like I'm here to havea good time.
Why do I gotta see bloodymurder or blood or brawl?
And and I feel 75 of myclubbing experience in palm
beach, that's what it led tothat's what you used to have to

(57:48):
weigh out when you get booked,Like I want to fucking book.
Is my life worth this fucking?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
$500?
.
I want to get money.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
And just to go back, the city's like all right, we're
having too much of this, we'rehaving too much of that.
The only way to cut that downis to get rid of it.
Yo, we hurt ourself, bro.
We hurt ourself.
Go ahead.
No, no, I want you to butt in.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I just wanted to say and I'm not saying this is every
to the point, it's not everytime, but it happened way too
much for my liking.
Where I even started, Iconverted the music I made was a
big reason why I went to Zumbais because dog hip-hop was at
first it was already.
If you wasn't popping bottles,if I wasn't 20 deep in the club,

(58:42):
if I didn't have a, a Cubanlink, I wasn't even considered a
rap.
I'm like, wait a minute what isthis bro?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
yeah, a little bit older now, so we kind we.
A little bit older now, so wekind of get it.
Yeah, but let's just look atall the artists that's popping
right now from Palm Beach.
What are they talking about?
What images are they pushingoff?
What type of music are theyputting on?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Gangsta music bro.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Thank you, because that's what these people around
here want, Not the other.
But this is what.
If you're not rapping by somegangster stuff, if you ain't on
Gangsta Time and Palm Beach, Iain't getting behind you.
So that is the energy thatpeople, artists, are thinking
they want.
They don't finna make this typeof music.

(59:23):
Like if I seen all they lookingup to is these type of people,
I got to make this type of musicand that's what artists do.
Bro, we was doing the samething back then.
We thought it was cool to rapabout all that type of stuff,
but really it's not.
But if this what all whatpeople want to hear, this what
you finna rap?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Okay, I got no problem.
Okay, let's, I got that.
I'm cool with the music too,and I know you grow at changes.
I'm good with that, but thatdon't mean once.
I feel like the reason why Ilike even the promoters or the
people with the money, whythey're not spending it back,
it's because they see every clubthat open.
The outcome of that Nothingsticks around long enough,
though, like nothing sticksaround long enough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You know what I'm saying From.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
TKO to Liquid Lounge.
You know, somebody gets shot.
Two weeks later they change thename and it's like we try to
move on, but it's like no.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
What security measures, yes, change the name
open it up and look for newresults what security measures
did we put in place?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
yeah, exactly opening the same club so if I had a bag
on the inside, you didn't donothing, yeah so if I have a bag
, I'm not gonna drop it on aclub in Palm Beach because I
don't see what that do.
You know what I mean?
And now every promoter we hadthey're not trying to mess with
us, they do like Rohan isprobably the only promoter from

(01:00:42):
that era, and I mean God blessif you out there and I don't
know you personally, but fromthe era of that, rohan is the
only one who still do events andthey're more upscale.
You know he got black luxcoming up the picnic.
the black lux is a picnicoutside the sunset amphitheater
it's a nice set and somethingyou bring your girl to yeah,

(01:01:02):
like you know what I'm saying,but we do got people who want to
do stuff in the city, but ifI'm gonna probably gamble 10
bands and probably lose it, I'mnot gonna do that.
You got me once, you ain't gonnaget me twice.
And I just want us, palm beach,to do better on that.
Like, not everybody, noteverything, has to be gangster.

(01:01:23):
We're not saying you soft, butdog accidents happen.
My g, like you know what I'msaying, I done seen a dude turn
down a flyer.
I'm in the parking lot it was agroup of 10, like having a
conversation A promoter'spassing out the flyers.
You know, and out of respectbecause I know my days at 45th I
was doing it a lot with Z Ialways just take a flyer, dog,

(01:01:44):
even if I don't want it.
I take it, fold it and put itin my pocket Because, because I
see you hustling, I respect you.
Oh yeah, because I threw CDs onthe ground right in your face.
Oh, ok, ok.
You know I ain't going to never, I would never dog, even if I
don't want to.
I'm going to take it from you,bro, because I see you trying.
I say people ain't ready, bro,I done been boy.

(01:02:05):
So this situation, the Don'tneed it.
And Buddy kind of sized themright.
I thought, you know, I'm likeboom, I thought nothing of it.
Three minutes later he swungback around dog, jumped out the
car, pistol on him.
What's up now?
What's up now.
I showed enough.
That was my sign to leave.
That was my sign to leave.
And I also said you know what,fat boy no more, because that

(01:02:33):
was like the day I was like damn, I don't even do that, I just
dip out the bat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
What's going on?
He left.
He didn't even say bye you seewhat I'm saying he's slapping up
, dapping up on me.
Yeah, I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Oh yeah, he's leaving .
When TJ DJs was a thing, Draco,you ever been to the moon.
You ever been to the moon?
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Sam, I'm sure you've been to the moon.
How big is the moon?
How?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
many people can the moon hold?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
It's a big-ass club, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
How many TJ DJs I've been where we inviting all of
Florida and even some of theouter places and everything went
smooth.
Everything do go smooth.
I never saw a fight, bro or braa shootout, and I've been to
over 12 t-day djs sometimes I'venever seen one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
It don't be as crazy as a palm beach, but I feel like
it's because everybody ot upthere.
It's like you go to uh you sayot, yeah, everybody out of town.
Oh, okay, okay, okay so it'slike there's none of none of our
career.
We all going to the moon likewe all going to tallahassee so
I'm out of bounds, you out ofbounds, they out of bounds,

(01:03:40):
everybody's out of bounds, youknow what I'm saying so it's.
You're not just in yourcomfortable zone where you just
finna be out trying people.
I'm looking for energy or likewho over there.
Like you know you out of town,you know yeah, it's more of a
college vibe type you know whatI mean.
Like it's more of a gathering ofdifferent people from
everywhere, instead of just likeoh, they go to ops from over

(01:04:02):
there, like right from the hood,that's over there, from
whatever.
You know what I'm saying, I'mwith you.
It's more of a like gettogether type vibe than just
like our clubs at home.
I feel like more can happen.
That's why I don't go to them,bro, trust me, I'm with y'all
100% and again, we hurtourselves and all they did was
trickle down and we lost them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
And, yeah, the New Age is talking about this,
talking about that, and nothingreally happening.
Nobody got no story to tell.
Nothing's happening.
That's why, you know, Ihonestly don't pay attention to
it.
Now, if, if, if it, if it's noton a hot beat or you really
going in telling your story andit ain't rhyming and matching,
I'm not, I'm not there.
But you gotta, they gotta tryharder than we did.

(01:04:48):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I like what you're saying though, drago, what
you're saying is on point wegotta be a little bit
comfortable, being uncomfortable.
So we got to be doing the workand you got to hear the word no,
don't assume Right.
So I like that.
I like that, though.
You're saying some real shit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I think they just got to learn.
It's all a learning process.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
It's harder about dancing music.
Nothing's happening.
What we were saying Nothing'shappening.
No more, motherfuckers ain'tdoing crazy shit when we was
around, right.
They're not doing it no moreBecause people used to do it not
to look good but to have astory to tell behind that person

(01:05:26):
.
Right, oh, he did this, he didthat.
Now he's talking about it.
None of that's not aroundanymore.
So these kids, you know, theygot to try harder.
They got to try harder.
There's a few of them out there.
I see them but I might notremember their name.
But when they get my attentionthey get it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
That's what's up.
No that's what's up.
I'm on it, man, I'm on it.
I like that conversation.
That was good.
That was good.
Yeah, that that was good.
And let's talk about, um, uh,the bringing on home, and I want
to talk about rolling loud.
Uh, as we know, as we'retalking about platforms and

(01:06:01):
we're talking about, uh, bigvenues and things out there that
uh artists need, and, uh, let'stalk about boss man dilo.
First of all, how y'all feelingwith my, with his second album
and the run he on and you know,and then we'll get to the road
and live performance, because Ido feel like he had that thing
on smash uh.
So, how y'all feeling aboutboss man, who want to take it
first, how y'all feeling withhim and and his role in live

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performance?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I saw him.
I want to get to this first.
I saw him talking about makinga minute and a half songs.
A minute and 30 seconds.
No, no, no.
Before we go forward.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
How you going to switch the subject, bro.
We should have finished.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
We should have answered the question.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
We're talking about that on the television.
In five more years we're goingto be making zero, zero, zero.
I'm sorry, you just messed meall up the value of dumb music
that's turned up is just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
I'm sorry, global, I'm sorry, but I had to throw
that in there real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
No, but I mean we can get to it, but go ahead.
Okay, so you want to talk aboutthat first?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Let's talk about it.
Let's get there.
Since you're there, let's talkabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Go ahead.
So what you?
You got something to say, oryou asking us on, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, how y'all feel about it, because a minute 30,
that feels like it's not even anintro, a hook, a verse, and
it's over Just because he saidthat I'm about to go back to
making three plus minute songs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I promise you, I'm going to be making three plus
minute songs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
How y'all feel about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I'm going to let Slim , let me, let just finish.
I'm not dumbing down my songs,bro, I'm not doing.
I'm not.
I feel like it's.
It used to be like okay,artists used to be trendsetters,
what we do the fans like and wecreate what's cool and what's
not cool.
Now it's the other way around,where the fan is telling the

(01:07:47):
artist hey, one minute song iscool, and you're literally
making it to what they want.
Like I ain't doing that, man,I'm going to continue to do what
I'm doing already, Like if thesong happened to be a minute or
short, that's just what it is.
But I'm not going in the studiosaying man, you know what?
Man?
The fans ain't listening to thesongs.

(01:08:08):
No more, that's over twominutes.
So I'm just about to make oneminute in the 59 something.
No, no, I'm not doing that bro.
I feel like somebody telling mego in the studio and dumb it
down, man, you only going to bedumb so long.
Yeah, After a while you'regoing to get tired of dumb.
Like, I get it, I get it.

(01:08:28):
But what's going to happen inthe few is they're going to
start saying man.
D-Lo sound the same every time.
I'm tired of him Because he'sdoing the same flow and dumb
down same flow and people likeit.
But you only going to like dumbso long, bro.
You only going go play dumb solong.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Eventually they go get tired of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
You, you.
I, first of all, I feel likeit's a little.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I feel like it's a little lazy, if I'm being
transparent if I'm being honest,it's down to the simplest form
and that's what people want tohear when they're in a club
drunk and when they messed up.
But it's like you also want asubstance too, but but you also
want the substance too.
But people don't get in theirmind the things that we force
artists into Then we dislikelater on down the line and we
don't get that.
We shape this artist into thatBecause that's the flow.

(01:09:16):
You wanted him to keep doingyou like that song, so you want
him to keep creating that.
Then later on down the line,you tired of the flow, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I think a minute and a half though we take
the average song is a eight barintro, a eight bar hook, a 16
bar verse, and then the hookrepeats.
That's gonna take you to aminute and a half, fam, right.
So if you're doing a movie orthis is for a scene, that sounds
typical, I know what the radioor what the DJ would play, but

(01:09:48):
that's for a certain environment, but I don't, I stroke, I can't
, I can never, always get off 16bars and say all I want to say.
So to me it's always like, damn, I gotta jump to the.
You.
We always trying to finish it,to finish it where it makes
sense.
So when you start the secondverse, you know, I mean you can
continue the rest of thesequence.
I just don't know how I wouldfeel always satisfied unless

(01:10:11):
it's an intro or an outro to saylike that's gonna be the new
wave.
If I was doing it, I would bedoing it and I wouldn't be
speaking up on it.
But it is scary to say that,damn, you're gonna give me a
minute and a half of a recordfor me to really be satisfied
like, yeah, I, your album'sgoing to go from.
I mean, we barely get 12 songsin the album.
So 12 songs a minute and a halfI'm paying.

(01:10:32):
There's no substance.
I don't think it's enough.
Now, I don't know what he wason.
Maybe he was in a good vibe andhe just threw that out there.
But I think, true artist,artistry, that's not the wave,
that's not gonna last long andif you listen to d-low,
unfortunately he's probablygonna need to chill and
experience some things.

(01:10:53):
So he has more to say.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
But you can only talk about getting money, swerving
the car and saying it's like Iseen, like I seen him rapping
before he made it and he wasrapping different, yeah, and he
had substance to it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I said, once you make it, the fans, hey, this song
right here they want, and it'snot just the fans.
I'm pretty sure the label keepmaking the same song over and
over and over the minute youswitch up that, no, we don't
like that right there.
We don't like that.
No, no, no, no, we don't likethat.
Well, we need that.
We need that other flow, theflow you've been doing, you know
, and then it's like after awhile you get bored of that.

(01:11:30):
But that is the, that is theflow that that was popping.
It's like club scene, body slamto me.
That's not my best song, that'snot my most lyrical song, not
by a long shot, but that's whatthe people like.
That's what they want to hear.
I got other songs, but theywant to hear club scene because
green body smell when you cometo the club.

(01:11:50):
That's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
But you know what club scene?
Because that's a club scene tome it's still.
You feel like you dumbed itdown on club scene or you just
feel it's not, like it's notthat I dumped it down, I just
focused.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I just told myself I was saying F, use every line,
and with this and with that.
That's basically what the wholesong was about.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Do you know your verse?
I don't want to put you on.
Do you know your verse?
Can you do the first?
But your verse is still uniqueas fuck, though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
She fucking with me, she fuck with the clique, she
fuck with the team.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Now, that's a whole lot of fucking, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
That's why these niggas doing a whole lot of
cussing, ain't it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I want you to, I just don't want you to.
I think you're cutting yourselfa little short.
Though, dog, it bothers me.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I'm lyrical, but I'm just saying it's not my, my.
If I was to say I, if we talkabout rapping, rapping, yeah, we
go around somebody and we talkabout oh, who the best rapper
from here?
Y'all bring him verse van damme.
I'm not gonna say oh, clubscene is the song that I want to
put up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I want to say that for a clubsong, nigga them bars.
For I'm going to do that evenin love songs.
Yeah, like, I just want you toknow.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
like nigga, that's because I'm a bar nigga, I'm a
punchline nigga and I want tosay I went back I'm talking
about recently, nigga, I'mtalking about within a month or
so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
I was bumping this shit and I was just really
listening.
I'm like this shit slap, butI'm like this shit hard.
You don't listen to club sceneand just say, oh, it's just the
beat, but, nigga, you broughtheat, like it's still.
I still respect the.
I'm not listening to it becauseI'm drunk.
I'm going to like it.
Club scene is my anthem because, nigga, I'm feeling like I'm

(01:13:40):
that, nigga Like it got mefeeling like nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I'm that bad when I walk up in this bitch Because it
was natural.
Yeah, it wasn't something thatI was lying about.
Yeah, this was our life.
This was us going to the club.
We was in the club every day.
It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Monday, tuesday, wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
You feel me, I was 16 .

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
You feel me, I've been in clubs, performing every
night Everything that they wastalking about this stuff that we
was just doing and we just putit in the song it just it came
together like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
You know what?
I mean, yeah, that's a hardit's hard, it's the authenticity
of it and the timing of it.
It's hard that was whateverybody was doing.
We was all clubbing, we was allon the club scene.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
They're right and I don't know what my dog saying is
, though, but you had the ball.
Yeah, that's what I want you tolike.
I don't even think you shouldhave to like because it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
It's a, it's a still hold way, it's a good ass song
and your, your verse is to it'sstill like it's content in it.
It's creative, it's yeah Likeit ain't, like it's just old,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Just me.
That's everything I do.
That's just me, cause I really,I really sit down and really go
into my songs.
Like other artists might not dothat.
That's why I'm telling you LikeI actually sat down and said
I'm going to make everything,I'm fucking with this, I'm
fucking with that, she's fuckingwith it, I'm fucking with Liam.
I had that whole concept forthe song yeah, and everybody

(01:15:02):
else just followed behind it.
If I wouldn't have said that,people would have just wrote
their verse if I wouldn't havesaid that people would have just
wrote their verse.
Yeah, you get what I'm saying.
Yeah, so it's like I really gointo these things and really
study.
It's just like I was tellingyou about the recording stuff.
I really take my time and Ireally care about what I'm
saying and I want to respecteverybody versus.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
I just want to say is that you?
Still brought bars like it'sstill, I don't.
I never looked at it like oh,he just like and I'm just.
I never looked at it like that,it was just like damn, that
nigga said some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Boy, I know it's like telling lebron like yeah, man,
that dunk you did like that wasthe best dunk you did, and
lebron, like I know, like to youlike I get it.
But yeah, I just know me, I thedunk was good.
I'm not saying it's good, yeah,but when you know, you know,
I'm saying like rapping, rapping, rapping.

(01:15:52):
I'm not saying the bars on thatsong wasn't good, but to me, if
we talking about rapping,rapping, I'm finna.
Spit some shit.
That's finna.
Make your head, do 360s.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
And I want to say something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
That's not one of them songs to me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Because at the time I I didn't know you like I know
you today, but you know wecrossed paths.
You know I'm saying out in thecity but there was a dj in
tallahassee oh damn, I want, Ithink he was in tallahassee.
I'm gonna say his name.
You probably might know him.
Um, we was on the phone a lot.
He used to do a lot of mixtapesand he got a few of my records
on there and that's how I knew,like club scene, go ahead.

(01:16:28):
Dj Prince, dj Sugar Black.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Oh, sugar Black, For sure, dj Sugar Black.
I still follow my dog onTwitter, okay, okay and he was
heavy Drago you talk aboutmixtapes and cities.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
And he was a mixtape, like nigga had CDs all over,
you know what I'm saying.
So when I was working with himand talking to him he happened
to bring up pcc.
That time that record was, itwas hot at his peak and I think
it was on one of his, hisprojects, and he was must have.
He was doing some stuff withy'all or you know, helping with
the marketing and stuff likethat.
But that's how I knew.

(01:17:02):
The record and what washappening was big because he,
because he was all in for it andhe felt like oh them, boys out
of here, fat boy, he was like ohthem, boys out of here.
I know about PCC.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I done, did a whole mixtape because of Sugar Black.
Like literally hey, van Damme,go get this Nipsey Hussle beat.
Hey, go get this beat.
I want you to talk about thison here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Talk about this on here, talk about florida on here
, do this.
Yeah, I got a whole project wenever released how niggas be
working dog and it's outside thecity.
But when you in the networklike people gonna be talking and
I'm like, damn them, boys, wayup here, because that's where
I'm trying to go, but theyalready there that's how I
always knew people working.
It's like that's the beauty partof this man.
It's like damn, I was happy tohear that and I was like, yes,
sir, I know them boys, he's likeyou know him, I'm like yeah,
they're from the crib.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Like damn right you know them boys, sugar black,
legendary yeah man shout out tosugar black man he gave me a lot
of game dog no charge, but ifyou're on the phone with him hey
, boy you need to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
He is one of the ones remind me a bigger yeah, remind
me a bigger yes, sir, yes, sir,yes, let's get the rolling, all
right, dragging them.
Hey, what about the one-minutesongs?
So I just wanted to talkbecause we want to talk about DJ
14 and Slim.
I'm probably going to let youtake off on that because I know
y'all got a relationship.

(01:18:18):
I've seen them a few times so Iknow we're going to build on
that.
But Boss man D-Lo I thought theperformance was great.
Um, obviously he has a fan baseand with the new album, um, the
mo chicken song is definitelydoing well and 46 street.
So it looks like when heperformed those songs, the
audience knew it and was reallyreceptive to it.
Um, I think he's gonna be herefor a little bit longer, man,

(01:18:41):
you know everybody was sayingone album, one song done, but he
working kid, kid got swag man,you can't take that away from
him, yeah he working.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
It's just how long the people going.
Hopefully they don't get tiredof it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
It just happened bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
It happened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Nah, I'm with you, Drego.
You saw the performance, orwhat you got.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Yeah, yeah, the shit was lit, the shit was lit, the
shit was lit.
Okay, I think him and Kodakreally, really rocked the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
My beef with Kodak is he don't be rapping for real,
Like he didn't be putting themic out, dog, and let everybody
sing the song.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Like.
I'm not a fan of that, though Iain't gonna lie to you that's
too lit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
No, Y'all don't tell me that man Y'all going to make
me like lose love.
But no, you can do it oncertain parts Wild Wave.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
He barely performed.
That's what he was doing.
Hey, I'll tell you what youain't going to get my bread.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
You hear me, you ain't going to get my bread.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
I'll keep going to them damn R&B concerts and let
them dance and give me the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I was like pizzas and cream in my ass.
I'm like, hey, let go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Bro, if they rock with you like that, why you say
one thing?
The reason why?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
No, don't say that, Draco no.
I came to watch a performancebro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Experience the person you've been hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
And see if it's you get the same experience live.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
I respect it.
But if you know your crowdgonna do that, you gotta know
how to do your performance Forsure.
But the whole show you gonna dothat?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
You ain't gonna put the mic down.
You can't do the whole show.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Kodak might say 10 words on a fucking song.
Bro, Come on man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
I'm going to give you an example.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
A lot of people do be tired too.
A lot of people have breathingproblems and concerning D-Lo
said that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Get a hype man.
That's what they're for.
That's what a hype man for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
The reason why I say that is there's one performance
that I love so much and hewasn't even in the States.
It was.
What's his name?
God damn, y'all made me losehis name.
But Sing that shit.
The box In the box.
Gunner, no, roddy Roddy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Oh, oh, roddy Rich, roddy Rich.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
I'm sorry.
So when when he I said RoddyRich yeah, you good bitch.
I said, I said gunna when thecrowd, when the crowd was
singing that, but he's singingit too, but you hear the power
of the crowd to where you almostlost control and they took over
.
I can respect that, but he wasstill going.

(01:21:28):
Now, these boys right here,that 10-word thing I cannot
respect.
Get them black.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Get them black, get them black, get them black, fuck
them up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
You ain't go in front of the mic, you ain't got to
rap for real.
They got all kinds of codes Idon't want to go to a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
No, I don't want to see that, bro.
I don't want to see that, bro.
If I go to see somebody baby,come down, come down.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
And then the crowd took over, bro.
But Draco, stop, I want to saysomething that will clear.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
You talk if it's a moment.
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
I'm talking about if I'm watching clip after clip and
90% of your show is youstanding there and just vibing
with the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I don't need to pay $300 for a ticket to see you do
that.
Bro, I'm going to play therecord by my damn self and I'm
good I don't know if it's justme, but yeah, I'm not doing that
, bro, you feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I feel like that's the new generation I feel like,
and that's what I say.
I feel like that's the newgeneration I feel like and
that's what I say.
I feel like the fans have tookcontrol of the artistry, because
now, that has became the levelof like all right, how many if
you really got, if they reallyrock with you.
Let's see you go to a show andthe whole crowd is singing your
song and you ain't got to saynothing.

(01:22:44):
That's the new normal.
And the whole crowd is singingyour song and you ain't got to
say nothing.
That's the new normal.
That's the new thing.
You're not popping unless youpost the video and the whole
crowd is singing your song.
So that is the new thing.
You know what I'm saying andthey taking that.
And hey, I'm finna, perform myconcerts like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
You got to rap this bitch.
I don't know if y'all going tofeel the same way, but I still
feel like I'm gonna pay you this$100,000, and they gonna sing
it the biggest R&B nigga to me.
And he still put on a show.
He gonna dance, he gonna sing,saying Chris Brown don't do that
shit, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
So that's what I want to pay for oh my.
God, Come on.
Michael didn't do it either.
Michael had it like that too,and you're going to spend a
stack to take a picture, but I'msaying he give you the whole
shebang.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
That's what I want to pay for me.
I'm going to go pay for that.
I don't got no problem to goexperience that.
But if you're just going tohold the, mic out, dog.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
That ain't it Me.
I'm a live type.
I want to be a live performer,like if I'm doing bitch shows
like that, I don't want to berapping over nothing.
I'm a Jada Kiss Like get me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
You got a band.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I'm finna, show y'all the difference between a rapper
and an artist.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
I'm gonna show you the difference Because a lot of
these people ain't real artists,so Ad libs or you taking the ad
libs off too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
What ad libs?

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
You don't get the ad libs on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, you got the hot man ad libs.
Ooh, I never fall in my liveperformance.
You never.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh, my dog going raw on the beat.
I really do this, oh Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I really do this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Okay, you rock with the band and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
No, he's saying just the instrumental Draco.
He's saying they take off thead.
Like some artists, we keep thestrength in us or we keep ad
libs on them.
But he's saying it's just beat.
If the mic is in front of me,I'm rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Ain't no video and the music not playing.
Like I don't play that.
To me, that's Milli Vanilli.
Like I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
If I got the mic in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
I'm rapping it.
I don't care if it's on TikTok,instagram, whatever it's on.
That's really me rapping.
It's not the recorder playingand then I'm lip syncing it.
I don't play that, nah.
That's why I say it's adifferent.
You can't do that.
You used to get frowned upon.
Nah.
That's the difference betweenan artist and a rapper.
A lot of these dudes rappersthey ain't no artists, what you

(01:25:06):
wouldn't even be a fan of someof them if they do live
performances bro that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yeah, that's kind of scary.
That's the scary part of it,like not being a fan no more.
That's scary 90% of thesepeople are studio artists yeah
they always sound good in thestudio you gotta work on that,
man, they gotta work on that,especially if you're doing the
new generation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
you don't have to be good at performing, you don't
have to.
That's the new generation.
You can put on a bit of lipsync, the whole thing through.
Nobody going to discredit youor nothing.
You know what I'm saying it'sthe new generation.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I think when Payne did his live thing, I think I
fell in love with him even more.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I don't know if y'all saw that, that live band with
the ladies.
They're on the radar.
I like it but I don't A lot ofthe videos.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I'd be like man.
I feel like I was in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Oh, he's snapping and I'm like he's not even rapping,
he's snapping the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
But that's not him.
But the average fan doesn'tknow that.
They think this person isreally rapping live.
That's what they think.
So it's like you're trickingthe people.
That's Milli Vanilli.
That's what it is, milliVanilli.
I respect Mario.
Mario went on that song live.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why he crushed it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
You got an R&B the verses.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Sing it loud they all rappers scared to rap All them
boys.
He crushed them all man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Sauce Walker.
I seen him do some lives, butmost of these people like they
be just lip syncing.
There ain't nothing wrong withit, but it's just like it's the
difference between the artistsand the rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
I do respect the ones who can do that, though.
I do respect it because I feellike you deserve to be in arenas
and selling tickets and on tour, if that's how you're
performing, for sure, yeah yeah,absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
It's a live performance that I'm coming to,
not a voiceover performance,right?
Yes, so you're like.
I just watched this battleround.
Y'all watch battle rap.
I watch clips I never, like theone with the one with the rimmy
arsenal and murder mood manshout out to them yeah, you get

(01:27:15):
what I'm saying.
It's difference between I lovearsenal, I love he's one of the
most disrespectful battlerappers has ever been energetic.
But it's a difference betweenartists and rapping Murder Moot.
He a real artist.
That's why he one of the GOATsOurs choked up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Yeah, I respect them boys.
Them boys got a differentartistry Choked up, got a lot to
remember.
That's what I'm saying.
It's the difference between art.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
That's the type of stuff I watch, hey them boys got
it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
That's the type of stuff that I watch.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
That's my brain, that's my pen, that's what I do.
I sit back and watch at home.
That's the type of stuff I sitback and watch.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
That doesn't make you think, like whoa, how he come
up with that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Niggas can't even perform a song, these boys going
three rounds 30 minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Those are real performers, those performers,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
And only got a couple days to prepare.
Yeah, pair you get what I'msaying, but we're not going to
put them on the same level asrappers, but really they better
than rappers To me, yeah becauseif they get the rapper, it's
going to be over.
They just can't really format.
They're not really good atformatting songs.
A lot of them, that's it.
That's their only downfall.
They're not really good atputting it into a song, but they

(01:28:23):
can rap, yes, sir but they canrap.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Yes, sir, no, yes, sir, man.
With that being said, y'alltune in to another episode of
Exposure.
I be your boy, the Global Zo,and I'm with the gang.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Drago Mill baby.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Van Damme Body Slam.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Y'all already know what to do and we out ha ha ha,
it's more than just a podcast,it's Exposure, and we out Ha Ha.
It's more than just a podcast,it's Exposure.

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