Join us for a thrilling conversation with none other than Ravens Beat Reporter and Host of Shaking Up Sports on 105.7The Fan with Cordell Woodland. We'll be unpacking the impressive dynamics of the Baltimore Ravens, discussing their championship caliber defense, and exploring the electrifying atmosphere of Baltimore city. Lamar Jackson, their trailblazing quarterback, is in the spotlight as we debate his potential for becoming the NFL MVP. With the triumphant win over the Seahawks still fresh, we dissect the role of John Harbaugh, the impact of new defensive coach, and the factors contributing to this commanding performance.
Switching gears, our discussion with Cordell then delves into the intricate workings of the Ravens offense. We explore Lamar Jackson's growth as a quarterback and look at how he's been perfecting his artistry as a passer. We also shine a light on how John Harbaugh is nurturing the team's offensive talent and Todd Monken influential role in Jackson's development. Still, we understand that to unlock the full potential of the Ravens, their offensive line needs to up its game.
Finally, we turn our attention to the AFC Playoff Implications and the teams in the fray. We talk about the increasing strength of the remaining opponents, how the defense is stepping up, and the areas where the offense needs to crank up the pressure. We also engage in a stimulating debate on the power dynamics in the AFC North between the Ravens and the Bengals. As both teams bring their A-game, we weigh the possibilities of the Ravens turning their season around, and the scenarios that could land them in the playoffs. Whether you follow football religiously or just enjoy a good sporting discussion, this episode promises a wealth of insights.
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Kold Krush (00:18):
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This episode is who Run it?
We have a special guest today.
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We have Cordell Woodland, very,very special guest.
Very popular man.
He is the Ravens Beat Reporter.
He also has his own podcastcalled Shaking Up Sports on
105.7.
The Fan and his partner incrime, Reeta Hubbard, do also do
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a podcast.
She's called the NFL Chick onTwitter or X-Faces.
It's called Winning Drive on105.
7 The Fan and I'm happy to havehim on.
Cordell Woodland (02:07):
YAAAAK.
Kold Krush (02:14):
Ladies.
Get your drink, Fellas.
Break out the whiskey for thisone.
Get the cigar, Get the lighter.
You ready to talk some ball?
We're going to give it to youstraight Carolina blue.
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What's going on with you, myguy?
What's?
Cordell Woodland (02:46):
going on, man, I appreciate you having me.
Kold Krush (02:50):
No, man, it is a pleasure to be able to talk some
ball with a guy from the NBA orthe Baltimore area, but
especially someone with yourspecial story.
Helping a guy like out myself.
That's pretty new in the gang.
They're like man.
You got to see if you can dosomething with this young man.
He's doing some big things inBaltimore.
So we're excited about thethings to come and I wish you
nothing but the best in yoursuccess.
(03:11):
But I'm also looking forward tobeing to sit down and have a
conversation with you about somefootball.
Cordell Woodland (03:17):
For sure.
Kold Krush (03:18):
So how has it been for you?
Before we jump right into theshow of the energy of what's
going on in Baltimore, I meanthe old hasn't been good since
the early 90s.
Last time they won it all was1983.
Then we had extort runs twodifferent times with the Ravens,
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and now you got this newdefensive coach, you got this
new aura over the city andyou're right there, this new
team.
You see any similarities tothis champ, this possibility of
a championship run versus theold Raven team.
Cordell Woodland (03:59):
I would say the common denominator are the
defenses.
I mean this is definitely achampionship caliber defense
that the Ravens have Right now.
I would make the argument it'sthe best defense in the league.
I think on all three levelsthey're just a nightmare for
opposing offenses.
I mean we just saw in thecomplete dominating win over the
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Seattle Seahawks this pastSunday that Gino and those guys
look lost.
I mean they looked like theydidn't know what they were
looking at out there and I hadasked Roquon Smith about that in
the locker room today, justabout why this defense is so
hard to figure out.
We're not seeing a lot ofhalftime adjustments from
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offenses that are working.
I'm sure they're trying, but itdoesn't seem like much is
working.
And I thought Roquon gave areally good answer.
He talked about just how theirdisguising stuff really wails.
The look you get pre-snap isnot the same thing that you're
seeing after the snap and it'stough to make those in-play
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reads and those reads aretotally different from the ones
you thought you saw.
Pre-snap is just so tough toactually figure out what they're
doing on the fly when they haveguys like Justin Mattabike and
Jadavia and Clowney and CalvinNeu and Patrick Queen and Cowes
Hamilton and Michael Peir Justso many people rushing the
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quarterback right now.
So I would say, just looking atsome of those past Ravens teams
, the one common factor rightnow is probably the defense
inside of the ball.
Kold Krush (05:45):
Yeah, I definitely would agree upon that.
I remember me beating my chestfor Mike Madonna when we had a
chance to get him from Michiganand I listened to some of your
work on the winning podcastdrive and your co-host was like
she's all in on McDonald.
And I think one of the thingsthat he's very unique with is
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his the way of disguisingcoverages.
I mean, he just uses a lot ofmixed coverages.
He doesn't blitz like yournormal style blitz, and I don't
know if people don't know hiscoaching tree besides the Hall
balls.
But he learned from one of theNFL's best with Don Brown.
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I mean he was the master ofblitzes and he was at Michigan
right around the time he gotthere.
So it doesn't surprise me withall the stunts and everything
that's in his bag, we haven'tseen the best of him to come on
what this defense can be.
I think it's going to get morefierce as time progresses.
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I just hope that he's inBaltimore for a very long time
and I think he will be, becauseI don't think he has any desires
to be a head coach, because hejust understands just the
patience game.
The Baltimore Ravens played sowell that quarterback Lamar
Jackson spent the fourth quarteron the bench and because their
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defense was dominant.
Quote Mitchell, the undraftedfree agent from East Carolina,
ran wild and the Ravenseliminated the Seahawks to just
sixth first downs in 151 yards.
The Seahawks pun it severaltimes and turned the ball over
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on downs once, and then theycommitted two turnovers.
So that leads to my question iswhy the Baltimore Ravens
quarterback, lamar Jackson,should be the NFL MVP right now.
From my perspective, johnHallbaw overhauled the scheme by
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hiring offensive coordinatorTodd Munkin, who, in the same
role with the University ofGeorgia and helped the Bulldogs
win two national championshipsLast season.
In 12 games Jackson passed forthe 2K mark, 2,242 passing yards
with a 186.8 per game passed,which is stout.
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He also 203 attempts out of 326.
So that put him around 62.3passing percentage.
That was 17 touchdowns, seveninterceptions.
He had 112 carries on theground for 764 in yard and three
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touchdowns.
So right now Jackson is a plus1,500 favorite to win the NFL
MVP award in 2023.
So that's the fifth best yardsin the league and Gino passed
for 157 yards with interceptionand the Seahawks rushed 15 times
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just for 28 yards.
It's the fourth time Baltimoreheld upon it to fewer than 100
yards.
Then Mitchell carried the ballfor the first time for the
season on Sunday and heresponded with 138 yards and a
40 yard touchdown.
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So that's going to be anotherspotlight for the national media
, because they're going to bereally talking about Lamar
Jackson's 18 and 1 recordagainst NFC East Tim teams and
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how well he plays.
He plays very efficient versusthese teams.
He completed 21 or 26 for 187,ran for 60, did not produce a
touchdown, but the Ravens gained515 yards and gave Seattle his
worst loss since a 42-7 loss tothe Rams in 2017.
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So what does this mean for theSeahawks?
They're five and three.
They need to burn the tape andthe Seahawks were tied for first
place in the NFC West, withgames against the commanders
Rams coming up before they seenthe 49ers twice in three weeks.
That said, geno Smith needs tobe better.
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He was guilty of turnoversSunday, given Smith three
consecutive games with multipleturnovers, and it's an ugly
trend that just has to stop.
So what does this mean for theRavens?
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The Baltimore Ravens are sevenand two and there's a Super Bowl
contender.
The Ravens have now won two ofits NFC best over the past three
weeks, and both games were oververy, very early.
The Ravens racked up 298Russian yards at a 7.3 yards per
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man against the Seahawks, Whileadding four sacks to their
league best total.
the Ravens aren't overwhelmingat the skilled positions, but
they can run the ball.
Once you throw that in and wenton a weekly with their front
four, it's definitely somethingto take a look at.
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So, Corno, what's your thoughtson that and where do you stand
to be in that seriousconversation right now for the
MVP race?
Cordell Woodland (12:19):
Yeah, I mean I think right now you'd have to
say Lamar is in the MVP race.
I don't know if I would go asfar as to say that he's leading
the MVP race, but I do think hisname should be in there.
I mean, he's been one of thebest quarterbacks in the league
this year and he's not doing itthe way that we've seen him
necessarily do it in the past.
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I mean, he's still obviously avery dangerous runner with the
ball in his hands, but it's beenhim throwing the ball this year
that has really been killingopposing defense as he leads the
league in completion percentage.
And I get it.
You know the Ravens aren'tnecessarily the greatest show on
turf right now where they'rejust throwing the ball all over
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the field, especially down thefield.
The down the field passing gamewas probably the last big
Marvel guy, so that's probablythe last Infinity Stone, I would
say for this Ravens offense andthis team.
It's for them to start.
He's a mid-shoot.
He did have a great gameagainst the Eagles.
I think what makes him sodangerous for the Ravens is that
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he gives them the possibilityof being that home run hitter.
We just haven't seen home runhitting plays from this offense
to this point in the season Notin the past game, nor in the run
game.
Even Lamar I mean Lamar has runthe ball well, but we haven't
seen any 70-yard touchdown runsfrom Lamar this year.
We haven't seen big passingplays resulting in touchdowns
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either.
So the CK Mitchell, come outthere and do what he did Sunday.
I think that is what gives youthe idea that this offense can
be even more dangerous if hecould stay healthy.
But yeah, I think, all in all,lamar is showing you what he can
be.
When you put Tyler around him,this is obviously the most Tyler
he's had around him in his timein Baltimore.
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He's cashing in on it and Istill think that Tyler could be
better.
To be honest with you, I thinkthe Tyler around him could
definitely still be improvedgoing forward.
But to see Lamar lookingcomfortable as a passer,
defenses are trying to force himto stay in the pocket and beat
them with his arm, and he'sdoing that easily right now, and
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I think everybody is finallygetting to see the type of
complete player that LamarJackson is.
He's not just a runner, he'snot just a mobile quarterback,
he is a total package type ofquarterback and I just feel like
in this day and age, where youhave guys like Miles Garrett and
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TJ Wadden, nick Bolson, allthose types of guys who are just
so good off the edge, you needsomebody like Lamar that can not
only move but can also teardefenses up through the passing
game as well.
Kold Krush (15:09):
I absolutely agree with that coldheartedly and I
feel like we just need to takeour hat off to John Harbaugh
with what he was able to do overthe last couple of years.
And EDC I mean the Ravens GMhas surrounded a collection of
offensive talent he has hadduring his tenure there.
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Most know the superstarreceiver, odell Beckham, holly,
sought after first round pick,say Flowers, the more talented
with all pro tight end MarkAndrews, jk even though JK's
heard and Gus receivers Bateman,duvernay, nelson, aguilar.
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And you got to take your hatoff to John Harbaugh for being
able to bring in offensivecoordinator Todd Munkin to
basically propel this team andget them into the next phase or
the next era of being a Ravensfan, or a completely different
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team than we're used to.
Munkin is probably the mostsignificant addition as he's
going to help develop Jackson,be the best version of himself
moving forward.
So, jackson, I would like tosee him play a little bit more
Nohado, a simple offensive usingthe quarterbacks, mobility as a
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great asset moving forward, andI like the direction that
Munkin is going.
So I just wanted to know yourthoughts on the spread formation
with the big moment, because Ijust believe down the stretch
this season, jackson will facethe Bangles, chargers, jaguars,
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49ers, dolphins and severalPittsburgh Steelers in which
will be gigantic playoffimplications.
As far as a matchup, baltimoreis going to spread team out,
creating space for skilledplayers and attacking positive
matchup for Jackson and can bemore accurate and efficient
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while saving his bestperformances for the biggest and
urgent moments.
Cordell Woodland (17:29):
I think offensively, like I said, the
default is the next thing thatneeds to show up.
I think the offensive linecould be a little more
consistent than what they'vebeen.
They haven't been terrible as aunit.
I think the offensive line hasbeen fine, but this isn't Ronnie
Stanley's best year, so that'sa little bit of a problem,
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especially when you're going upagainst a team like the Browns
who has a Miles Garrett liningup on that side.
Just this past week againstSeattle, boye Moffay beats
Ronnie Stanley off the edge andit turns into a strip sack on
Lamar.
You've got to be able toprotect the blindside and
they're paying Ronnie Stanley alot of good money to be able to
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do that.
That's been one of the concernsfor me is how will Ronnie
Stanley hold up as the year goeson Between that and the
down-to-field passing game?
Those are really my only twoconcerns about this Ravens team
going forward.
They cleaned up the Red Zoneissues.
They've shown the ability torun the ball.
They've shown the ability tothrow the ball and throw it
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accurately.
But those big plays, some ofthose splash plays, they're
still missing right now.
This has been an offense thatcan methodically walk up and
down the field.
They're missing some of thosechunk plays.
Once they start getting that,that's when there'll be a very
dangerous offense.
Kold Krush (18:52):
Even with the Giro offense they didn't go vertical
enough.
And now you have these newweapons, so it shouldn't be any
reason not to go vertical withZay Flowers, Rashad Bateman,
Nelly OBJ it's a lot of stuff tothe boundary they haven't
abandoned, going to stuff acrossthe middle.
And even last, I would like tosee them push it more often,
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even if it's not there and whenI mean not there, I mean even if
they don't connect but just toget defenses to honor them, to
take that shot or do a littlebit more play action and go
something directly down thefield or exploit the seams a
little bit more.
I think we will get theexplosive plays but for whatever
reason, we just keep gettingthe boundary outs and the deep
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curls but we're not gettingenough shot plays.
We can get that because ToddMonk has revamped his offense
three different times.
Tampa Bay looked a little bitdifferent, Georgia looks
different from when he was atCleveland, but Cleveland got
some big chunk.
Wondering if he's just tryingto just make sure they got the
basics before we pull out someof the other stuff.
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Either way, it's exciting towatch the offense play.
What's your thought?
You think we should do it alittle bit more or, you like,
the creativity of thisunbalanced line that they've
been doing.
Cordell Woodland (20:12):
Yeah, I mean I do like Spread.
I mean that was Monk and saidhe wanted to do when he first
got get some spacing out there.
And they still have some oftheir spacing issues.
Still, I just like differentlooks.
I don't mind the off-balancelooks either, I just I like
being able to mix it up.
I don't like being predicted.
I just think that's one of thenumber one things.
Whether you're coaching offenseor defense in football you can't
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be predictable.
Once teams know what you'redoing, it's that much harder to
be successful.
So the more you can do, I dothink the Ravens can be a
Functional offense in the spreadthey have been.
I don't know if they could.
They'll be able to continue todo some of this five wide stuff,
though I don't think they canreally go empty as much as they
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used to the ball, ronnie Stanleyand his struggles to this point
in the season and that rightthere.
I I just don't think goingempty is very feasible for this
team right now Because you justdon't have that type of
protection, especially from yourleft tackle.
You're just not getting like aprotection to be able to sit
there and empty sets.
If they are, you're gonna haveto get the ball out very fast
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and as good as Lamar has beenthrowing the ball this year
Timing hasn't always been andgreat.
During his three-step drug goalwants that back foot hits the
ground and that's really notLamar's game.
Lamar likes to extend the play,he likes to make something
happen, he likes to get out ofthe pocket and keep his eyes
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down fit.
All those things are fine.
It's just when you're going inthose five wide sets you you're
not Given that time tonecessarily be to be able to
extend the play the way that younormally like.
So I would kind of put a pauseon those, on some of that five
wide stuff, until you get to thepoint to where you found some
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of the concepts, some of thepast concepts, that Lamar likes
that he can get the ball out ofhis hands as fast as you need
him to in those situationsbecause I've seen Cole Jackson
speak about Ronnie in his anchorpoint and I just, I just think
he just doesn't trust the ankle,so he's not, he's not, he's not
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putting it in the grass buteither, whatever the reason is,
we can't keep waiting for him tocome around.
Kold Krush (22:30):
It's always the discussion around trade time or
what do we need?
You know you got some peoplethat's divided, said you know
the trade deadline, which yougot a defensive end.
Some people wanted something, anew pass right, some people was
beating for running back andeven in the draft, those who
gets super excited are stillseeing the same things.
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And I think it's conversationthat the ravers need to reinvest
in the offensive line.
The trade line is already gone,so early picks and needs to be
spent in In more than oneposition on the offensive line.
To the credit what you said, toallow Lamar to Extend the play,
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to have more time, to not havepeople, and then we can see a
more explosive plays.
Because, as of right now, itseemed like the reason why it's
not happening is because hedoesn't have enough time to go
through his progressions or makeor make the read, and when he
does have the read is eitherMoses is not holding his block
or Stanley's not holding his,and I think EDC has surrounded
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Jackson with a collection ofoffensive talent Doing offense
and defense with.
Now it's time to pay attentionto the office a line.
It's time.
It's time to beef up thatoffense a line.
I think they're still not usingOdell Beckham and the way that
they should be using OdellBeckham.
I love the way that they usingZay flowers, even with the
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talent of Mark Andrews on theteam.
That's just my personal opinion.
I think it's now it's time tofocus on the trenches or figure
out something else.
Maybe let filet-le-tri lefttackle or or something.
Because, like you said, lamaris not getting the time he needs
and in this taught Munkin'soffense.
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All the pieces are there, it'sjust just now, I think.
Now the question is it will theoffice a line be Consistent in
giving him what he needs to moveforward?
Because, like you said, far asthe spread, formation and big
moments going down the stretch,we got Jacksonville, we got the
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Chargers, the bangles, the 49ersand the dolphins, the last, the
last game of the year, whichall of these can be playoff
implications and matchups, and Idon't think that our office a
line is to the point and I run agame has self consistently
enough to gash you for big playsto be in five wide constantly
To take advantage of thesematchups.
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So something definitely has tochange Moving forward.
So I was looking at thestrength of schedule for the
back half, I was looking at theBuffalo Bill stuff and I was
looking at ours as well.
What's your thoughts on theschedule For us to basically
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chase that number one seed or doyou don't really care if we get
the one or two seed, then go onto the playoffs?
I mean, I definitely will thinkseeding matters.
Cordell Woodland (25:33):
I mean, if you make it so that everybody has
to come through Baltimore,that's an advantage for them for
sure.
Rather play the Chiefs at home,then go to Kansas City.
You'd rather play the bills athome than go to Buffalo or have
to go to Cincinnati for thesecond time in the season.
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So yeah, I mean, if you couldget that first seed, definitely
you'd love to do it.
I do think it'll be a challengefor the Ravens.
I mean, they've got these nexttwo division games been up here.
Both of these games are in thespan of five days.
So that's just going to betough.
I mean to go from this BrownI'm going to be a physical AFC
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North battle and then get readyto play the Bengals on Thursday
night, to pretty much have thatsame type of game all over again
.
It's challenging.
It's definitely going to put ahuge challenge on them.
Now the good thing is they doget taste before they have to go
to LA to take on the Chargers,who haven't looked good to this
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point in the season.
So you do feel good about that.
They've got 10 days and thenright after that they've got the
bi-week before they take on theLA Rams.
So it's definitely some toughgames on this schedule.
I mean when you look at it andyou look at, you got
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Jacksonville and Jacksonville onSunday night, then Christmas
night in San Francisco thefollowing week.
Then you come back home to facethe Dolphins and the Steelers
to end the season.
I mean that four game stretchat the end of the year is going
to be tough.
It's going to be incrediblytough.
I mean right now all four ofthose teams are playoff teams on
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the back end of the schedule,so it won't be easy games at all
.
I mean it's tough to imagine theRavens winning out.
First of all.
I mean that's just tough and atough acts for anybody.
Like at some point they'regoing to have a let down, even
defensively as good as they areoffensively.
People got to preparethemselves for them to have an
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off day at some point.
Of course nobody wants that tohappen, but realistically it's
just it balance.
Is it ever?
You know it's just balance.
It all evens out at the end andso you got to prepare for that
Candice offense.
Hold their own.
If the defense doesn't show up,we'll see.
But I do think the Ravens havea tough schedule.
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I do think they'll be a toughout in the playoffs, no matter
where they're seated.
But yeah, if they, if theycould get the number one seed,
I'm sure they'd love to, forsure.
Kold Krush (28:27):
Yeah, once we started the season they had the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Schrinford schedule is one ofthe hardest or toughest
schedules is going to be verytough, but I believe that the
Ravens are going to probably I'mgoing to sound like a homer I
think they're going to go fiveand no down the stretch.
I like this Browns this weekand then I like Cincinnati on
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the short week.
The Ravens don't lose to meCrime time games, especially not
Thursday night games, followedby the Chargers.
Then they go on their buy andthen they play the Rams.
I kind of like that stretch,even after that when they play
the tougher slate.
If they can just go two for twodown the stretch, I think
that'd be more than enough and Idon't think the Steelers game
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is going to have any any bearing.
I think they're going to haveenough wins in their belt that
we might not even be playingthat game.
The starters will probably besitting.
The way that the schedule isgoing to fall out, I don't think
you have to worry about thatgame.
So that, just that said waysinto who do you think is the
most fierce team in the AFCright now?
Cordell Woodland (29:29):
First team.
Let me look.
I just think until somebodydethrones them, the the chiefs
are going to be the best team inthe conference.
They're the best team.
It just is what it is.
Until somebody takes them offtheir throne, that's just where
it's going to be.
And the chief?
Dangerous because they're notjust beating you with Patrick
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Mahomes to Kelsey like they usedto.
I mean that's that defense isplaying at a high level right
now.
It's obviously not as good asthe Ravens defense, but we're
not used to talking aboutdefense when you talk about the
chiefs.
So it's just so dangerousbecause it's now.
Yet again they're findinganother way to win games.
Last year everybody said theycouldn't, their offense wouldn't
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be the same without Tyree Kale,and they were right.
Their offense wasn't the same.
So Kansas City found anotherway to be the best offense in
the NFL.
And now this year, you knowit's like the offense doesn't
seem like they're as dominant asthey have been, but that
defense has turned around andhave been one of the better
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units in the league.
So I still think it's KansasCity right now for me and the
AFC, and I put the Ravens behindthe chiefs, right behind the
chiefs, but for me it's theRavens and the chiefs and
everybody else in the AFC rightnow.
Kold Krush (30:51):
I'm a whole my opinion, because it's two clips
I want to play.
They're both, I think, like twominutes.
I think one may be threeminutes long, but Sterling Sharp
was on first tank with StephenA Smith celebrating a big moment
in his life because he was ableto do something at Savannah
(31:11):
State.
I mean, I think it was SavannahState and they was talking
about the Ravens.
So I'm going to play this clip.
I don't know if you heard italready, but it's kind of is
exactly the same topic and thisis what he thinks.
Cordell Woodland (31:24):
Curious, so I imagine the students are as well
.
Who's the most dangerous teamin the AFC Sterling?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I still have to go with Joe Burrow and the
Cincinnati Bengals.
But here's why, when you lookat confidence, you go OK, who do
we have to face if this thingkeeps going?
Baltimore's in our division.
So we know them and we're goingto see them.
We've already been to KansasCity and dispatch them.
We just got rid of Buffalo onSunday night.
This is a football team that,if all things being equal, they
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can stay as healthy as they areright now, the way Joe Mixon is
starting to run the football.
They don't fear anyone, buteveryone fears them because
they've gone into Kansas Cityand played big and gotten to a
Super Bowl.
Lamar Jackson, for all hiswonderful play, mvp in our
league couldn't get his team tothe big dance.
Joe Burrow did that.
(32:13):
And so when you look atconfidence and I think that that
is one of the biggest thingsthat people lose is their
confidence.
But when the Cincinnati Bengalsgot Joe Burrow back at
quarterback, their confidencewent sky high.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Again, I would respectfully disagree with you,
which is hard for me to saybecause I've been raving about
Joe Burrow and the CincinnatiBengals for a long while, and
I'm still not stopping.
It's just that now I'm payingattention to two components
Sterling.
Number one, the defense, whichI already articulated.
Number two this kid Keatonmissed you.
And then I have Kariol Seesalong, rushed for 138 yards
yesterday.
(32:47):
This is a team that was beingmaligned for not trading for a
running back before the tradingdeadline.
And then, the next thing youknow, they show up and they
rushed for 238 yards the verynext game.
Whatever you perceive as beingtheir weakness, the Baltimore
Ravens step up to the plate andsay nah, we know what we're
doing.
Kold Krush (33:04):
So I don't know if you had a chance to listen to
that clip, but I was justwondering what your take was.
Cordell Woodland (33:08):
Yeah, I mean I can't get upset with anybody
that chooses to believe in theBengals.
I mean they have gone to backto back AFC championships.
They was on the road.
They have been a team that isdangerous.
They're dangerous with JoeBurrow.
It just is what it is.
They got one of the better widereceiver units in the NFL and
their well coached team.
(33:29):
I would say that I don't thinkeverybody fears the Bengals.
I don't think the Ravens fearthe Bengals.
I don't believe anybody in thisdivision fears the Bengals.
I don't think anybody in thisdivision is scared of any team
in this division.
I just think that's how theyoperate.
But I will say, you know, yeah,lamar hasn't gotten his team to
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the Super Bowl or even to theAFC championship game.
That is violent.
But I mean it's not.
Regardless of what people think, I'll say it's not a
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quarterback driven thing.
Yes, quarterbacks are arguablythe most important position on
the team, but it's not the end,all be all.
We've seen plenty of all timegreat quarterbacks not reach the
promised land.
It's a team award, it's a teamaccomplishment.
Joe Burrow has had a better teamthan Lamar has fully over the
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last couple of years, for sure,and Lamar hasn't even been
healthy on the back end of thelast two seasons.
And that's no knock on JoeBurrow, that's not Joe Burrow's
fault.
He came in and had Jamar Chaseand T Higgins and Tyler Boyd and
those guys and he playing withtheir hand.
He was dealt.
I would just say that Lamar noware obviously has the best team
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he's been with and his time inthe NFL.
I just like to see what happensnow, and both teams as possible
will see what happens, and it'snot just the Ravens.
I think Buffalo, as as hot andcold as they can be, they're
still a team to watch in the AFCas well.
But yeah, I mean I can't getupset with anybody deciding to
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trust the Bengals more than theRavens, especially with the way
the last couple of seasons havegone.
Kold Krush (35:29):
I guess that's what we did, because I'm not
discrediting the Bengals.
They have a great quarterback,they got an amazing trio but I
just give it a hard time to givethem, give them their credit
when credit is due, when I knowwhat happened in that division
so two years.
But I think the context ismissing, that the fact that
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everyone I mean everyone fromtop to bottom was hurt except
for them two years ago when,when they was about to do it I
think that's the year the Ravenshad like 26 guys that was hurt
and we was still winning thatdivision.
And we was winning thatdivision.
The Browns was looking good.
They had Baker he had theshoulder injury.
They had Odell he was goingwith his injuries.
They had Jarvis Landry he washaving his injuries.
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And then you had the Steelersand they was playing well and
they had key guys I mean keyguys on offense and defense that
they was missing and, forwhatever reason, the bangle was
the last dog in the fight andthey was healthy.
And then the next year it wasthe same thing, and one of those
years I think we kind of stillbasically finished about the
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same, but they had to head thehead.
So they ended up winning thedivision.
And then, I mean, they wentinto the playoffs and they
played well against whoever theywas matched up with, but the
road to get there was theydefinitely had some help because
everyone else was going to becompletely beat up.
I mean I'm not talking aboutmissing one guy, I mean they're
missing several stars and theytook advantage of that.
(36:57):
But I just find it that now thisyear, with their completely
healthy, the rest of thedivisions completely healthy the
Ravens are not getting the same, the same do, or the other
teams in the division is notgetting the same.
Dude Like that.
People are already crowningthem as the team to be feared
and I just kind of disagree withthat.
I don't even have them makingthe playoffs.
(37:19):
I don't see them making theplayoffs.
I don't see them defyinghistory two years in a row
starting off 0-3 and doing itfor the third time in a row,
even with the stealer offenselooking non-existent, even with
the Browns with theirquarterback conservatory,
because both those teams do havedefense as well and I just like
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their schedules down thebackstretch a little bit better
than I like the bangles.
Cordell Woodland (37:47):
I mean I hear you on the injury stuff.
I would just say that'sfootball.
I mean everybody deals withinjuries, even I mean Joe
Burroughs lost the season due toACL.
T Higgins has been banged upthis year.
He's missed games this year.
Jamar Chase is dealing with aback issue now that he just
(38:10):
suffered his pass game, so we'llsee how that impacts him.
That's not I mean I don't wantto sit here and preach for the
bangles.
I don't, but they've had one ofthe.
Their offensive line has been ahuge Achilles heel.
It's not many teams that areable to make it to the Super
Bowl with the offensive linethey had that year.
I just I do think this is agood team.
(38:32):
I hear you that the Ravens andother teams in the division
dealt with injuries.
That's a part of it.
Some of it's their own fault.
The Ravens like to bring inhurt players.
I mean hurt guys stay hurt.
That's the old analogy.
So if you continue to takethese gambles on players that
already have these injury redflags, then you can't look
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shocked when guys start gettinghurt.
The harsh reality is when Lamargoes down, the Raven season
goes down right with them, butyou could say that for a lot of
different teams that when theylose their starting quarterback,
their seasons probably going tobe over.
So the Ravens aren't unique inthat aspect, but I mean just
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even looking at them.
Like I said, I can understandwhy people would believe in the
Bengals.
Just off of how they've beenthe last couple of years,
they're still one of the betterteams in the AFC, just even in
this division.
I can't I don't know mepersonally, I can't put the
Pittsburgh or Cleveland ahead ofthe Bengals right now.
Kold Krush (39:38):
Man, I want to pull this clip real fast of Night
Cat with Ocho Sinko and AnkhChanning Sharp talking about
their opinion of who's on top ofthe AFC.
Cordell Woodland (39:56):
Okay, how about this here, the AFC power
rating?
You like the Ravens or you likethe Chiefs at the top of the
AFC?
Hey, that's tough.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Listen, let me see.
I'm going to Patrick Mahomesobviously 17 TDs.
To Lamar Jackson what nine TDs?
The Ravens defense only theRavens offense average 26 points
of games.
The Chiefs offense average 23points of game.
The Ravens defense obviouslyyou know the best in the league
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only allowing 13 points of game.
I'm not sure what the Chiefsdefense allows, but if I was
leaning towards the team as faras the best in the AFC right now
, I'm going to go and it painsme to say this and I'm just
where they are right now withwhat I consider the midway point
in the NFL power wrinkle forthe AFC at the top right now is
the Ravens and that hurts.
(40:44):
That hurts me to have to admitthat, because you know my lead
is to the Bangles.
But the Ravens are doing notonly offensively but what
they're doing defensively inthis era, and this era is
unheard of man.
We in a past happy era.
If you run a hundred plays, youplay 14, 80 of them, goddamn
plays, through the air.
And you mean to tell me youonly allowing teams 13 goddamn
(41:07):
points, 13.
Shit, listen, I love the Chiefs, I love Patrick Mahomes, I love
what they've been able to do.
He's a two times Super Bowlwinner, he's a MVP winner, as is
Lamar Jackson.
But what Lamar and those Ravensare doing over there, man is
special and I can't wait and Iknow I'm going off a little
track here a little bit I can'twait Two more weeks, two more
(41:32):
weeks.
You know who they playing right.
Cordell Woodland (41:34):
The Bengals go to the sense of Thursday night
football November, november 16th, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
I hate that, what.
Cordell Woodland (41:41):
Because I want , I want, I don't want, neither
I don't want them on a shortweek.
That they should be on a fullweek.
Okay, I see what you mean.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
They should play Sunday to Sunday or Sunday to
Monday.
I have a question you wouldknow better than I do Can they
flex that?
Can they flex that the Sundayand change no?
Cordell Woodland (41:57):
No, you can flex.
You can flex out of Sunday, youcan't flex out of Monday.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
No, it's the Thursday , though it's the.
Cordell Woodland (42:03):
Thursday night game.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
You can flex out of a Sundaynight and I think you can flex.
Can you flex out of Monday?
I don't think you can flex outof Monday.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I think it's just Sunday.
Cordell Woodland (42:13):
I think it's the NBC game that you can flex
out of, but you can't doanything with Thursday and
Monday night.
Great with you.
Ocho Ravens are 7-2, run 4straight.
They have a plus 115 pointdifferential, which is the
biggest in football by a widemargin.
And here's the thing.
Just imagine how good theRaiders are going to be when
they eliminate the weeklyone-two turnover game, that's
(42:36):
cool.
Yeah, just think about that now.
Yeah, to play a clean game,because we talked about it.
Ocho is that when you turn theball over, you either raise the
team up to your level or youstep down to their level,
because if you're better than ateam, the only way a team can
get up to your level is you comedown to theirs.
(42:56):
It's kind of like you're goingto fight.
That's why Ocho is that whenpeople, when you're up here and
you reach a certain level andpeople take shots at you Steve
Harvey told me this he's likethe only way they can hit me if
I come down to their level.
I'm so high up they're growingup.
It's hard to be accuratethrowing up here, but the only
(43:17):
time they can get me is when Icome down to their level.
They can crack me upside myhead when you turn the ball over
.
You're better than a team.
You come down to their level.
Now they can get you.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
When you think about it and I look at it from this
standpoint as well, based onwhere they are right now, and
another testament to wherethey'll be after the midway
point is, I look at theremaining schedules.
Obviously, the Chiefs have theEagles.
We don't know what's going tohappen there.
They got the Eagles, raiders,packers, bills, patriots.
That's their five coming up.
That's their next.
(43:49):
Well, yeah, that's their fivecoming up.
So boom.
I'm looking at the Ravens.
The Ravens remain in scheduleon teams or teams that they're
going to play that are possiblewins.
They got the Browns Bengals.
That's a loss.
They got the Chargers, rams,jaguars.
So out of that, that's fullgames.
All the Ravens, the Ravens, theRavens, the Ravens got their
(44:10):
mind on the number one Right now, based on their next, they won
the rope their next five games.
They going four on one.
They going four on one.
No, next five games.
So they going to be sittingreal nice and pretty, but come
November 16th they probablygoing to lose that one.
Cordell Woodland (44:27):
They ain't losing that one.
The Baltimore want the road toLas Vegas to go through.
You have to take a detourthrough Baltimore.
Kold Krush (44:37):
Man that was onc in old show speaking some game,
and I respect their opinions andalso I respect yours.
But see, I just I agree withthem, boys, and you know.
This is basically where I'm atas well.
Moving forward, this is where Ithink you know what should make
the difference moving forwardwith the Ravens.
They're just a different team,they're on a different mission
(44:59):
as well.
I just do not see three yearsin a row off the numbers,
regardless of who they have ontheir roster.
To overcome to come that, toovercome that.
They have a very narrow what'sthe word I'm looking for?
They don't have much room.
They don't have much room.
(45:20):
They basically have to win out.
I think it's too early to sayI'm talking about the Ravens?
They are, but at the same token,I personally don't think they
can afford to lose no more thanthree games.
I really my gut is telling meto, but I don't want to sound
like I'm talking from absolutes.
Just number wise, I just don'tthink that five or six wins in
(45:46):
the AFC in totality is going tobe enough to get you a wildcard
spot, Because it's definitelynot going to be enough to win a
division.
Cordell Woodland (45:57):
So five or six losses.
Kold Krush (45:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Five or six losses.
I don't, I don't think that'sgoing to be enough, based upon
head to head conference wins anddivision wins, once it all
shake out with the tire breakerson how stuff is so close, I
don't think that's going.
I don't.
I just don't think that's goingto cut it.
Cordell Woodland (46:14):
Well, you got to look at the standings already
.
I mean, it's already.
The league is bad this year.
It is.
That's the other thing.
There's already teams most ofthese AFC teams already have
three or four losses already.
So we could be looking at asituation where a nine and 18
gets into the seventh spot inthe wildcard.
(46:35):
I mean right now, all four AFCNorth teams are in the playoffs
today.
Kold Krush (46:40):
If it starts today, yeah, and they all got three
losses.
But you're right, that's why Idon't think getting up to five
or six losses you're going to,you're going to make it, and I
could be completely wrong.
I just don't, I just don't seeit.
I mean you got some other teamsthat hasn't been playing too
(47:01):
great, like the Texans, I thinkthey're, I think they're four
and four or something like that.
Then you got the charges hasbeen playing awful.
They're not out of it.
I mean currently, right now.
Like you said, if it startedtoday, all four AFC teams in the
North would be in it.
But the bills are right there,one game behind, and I think the
(47:25):
Jets as well.
I just don't see.
I'm with you.
I thought they didn't have theright field before they took off
from from the airport.
I didn't see them making theplayoffs.
I don't got them making theplayoffs.
But a team that I am keeping myeye on, even though they've been
playing Not well at all, is thecharges.
(47:45):
I think with their schedule, Ithink they can pull it out.
That's a team to look for.
I don't think the Texans gotenough juice to get there, but
the charges is a team that Ithink can squeak in there, like
you said, with a few losses,maybe five or six losses and
they can get in there, but Ithink their head to head and
their division wins is going tobe the reason why and I just
(48:07):
don't like the bangles scheduleand, far as division right now,
their division when lost recordis horrible right now compared
to the other teams.
They made some good points ontheir show nightcap of the same
stuff that we were just talkingabout.
Is there anything else youwanted to add?
Because I don't want to holdyou too long.
(48:28):
I know you normally do like a40 minute show, so I just want
to respect your time.
Cordell Woodland (48:32):
No, it's all good.
No, I mean I didn't really haveanything else.
I mean season step definitelystill a long way from over.
Health will be a big part of it.
I mean the second half of theseason is when you really got to
watch the Ravens and howhealthy they are, because that's
(48:53):
kind of been when their seasonkind of goes off track.
So just got to pay attention tohow healthy these guys are down
the stretch of the season.
Kold Krush (49:04):
Yeah, so it's going to be exciting.
I think at this point.
I think it goes back to whatyou said they have to handle
business.
I think if they win this weekfirst the Browns, they beat
Cincinnati.
I think the narrative changeacross the league on expectation
for the Ravens and also thenarrative change for the bangles
(49:25):
moving forward With theirseason.
We look out the overall outlookof the AFC in totality of where
things going to be.
But, like you said, it's stillgoing to be a long season.
But I think we'll have aclearer picture after the next
two weeks.
Cordell Woodland (49:42):
I agree.
Kold Krush (49:43):
Man, it's been fun.
Man, you know your ball.
They said you know your stuff,man, you know your stuff.
Cordell Woodland (49:49):
Yeah, I mean I've just always been a fan of
football.
Football is honestly my firstlove, so I mean I watched the
whole league.
Obviously, I watched the Ravenswith a closer eye, but yeah, I
mean I'm paying attention toeverything that goes on in the
league.
I just football.
I could kind of talk that allday, honestly.
Kold Krush (50:12):
Yeah, we kind of the same.
I watch all the teams.
I do watch the Ravens a littlebit more than other teams, just
because that's my squad, but I'dwatch a lot of football even.
I even watch a lot of collegetoo.
I don't know where I find thetime to do it, but I watch a lot
of college football.
I just can talk about it allday.
I think some of the things thatmade me want to do this podcast
(50:33):
I was doing with some other guysis that I just feel like when
you get older you kind ofappreciate the game a little bit
longer, even if you played oryou didn't play, and you look at
it from a different lens andyou just realize it's so much
about the game that you thoughtyou knew that you had no clue of
what's really going on and thatmakes it even more intriguing,
especially when you're a diehardfan or you are enthusiast and
(50:55):
you really just love football.
You realize it's differentexperiences of watching the game
beyond just watching the game.
You know you kind of deep intothe exes and those.
You looking more on the frontoffice side, the back office
side, the, the cat room stuff.
All that's intriguing, even theseating in college of how
things going and you get to thepoint where you started doing
(51:17):
player profiles and draftprofiles of players and it's
always a fun conversationbecause it's a unique
conversation, because it's neverthe same conversation.
I'm talking to sports, so Ijust enjoy watching from a fan
point of view and being able tohave an opportunity to talk with
guys like yourself.
Cordell Woodland (51:34):
For sure, man, I appreciate you having me.
Kold Krush (51:36):
So let the people know where they can find.
You will know if I you onTwitter.
You got multiple podcasts andyou got any big stuff that's
coming up that you want to share.
Cordell Woodland (51:45):
Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter or
Instagram at Cordell Woodland, cO C O R D E L L Woodland, w O D
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You catch my show shaking it upsports on 105.
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You could download the Odysseyapp and you can check my show
out.
I'm usually on weeknights.
(52:06):
You can listen on the Audacyapp if you're not able to be in
the car.
Also, my podcast, the winningdrive podcast, Reeta Hubbard.
We drop about three episodes aweek.
Wherever you get your podcastfrom, you could find that.
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What's?
Cordell Woodland (02:46):
going on, man, I appreciate you having me.
Kold Krush (02:50):
No, man, it is a pleasure to be able to talk some
ball with a guy from the NBA orthe Baltimore area, but
especially someone with yourspecial story.
Helping a guy like out myself.
That's pretty new in the gang.
They're like man.
You got to see if you can dosomething with this young man.
He's doing some big things inBaltimore.
So we're excited about thethings to come and I wish you
nothing but the best in yoursuccess.
(03:11):
But I'm also looking forward tobeing to sit down and have a
conversation with you about somefootball.
Cordell Woodland (03:17):
For sure.
Kold Krush (03:18):
So how has it been for you?
Before we jump right into theshow of the energy of what's
going on in Baltimore, I meanthe old hasn't been good since
the early 90s.
Last time they won it all was1983.
Then we had extort runs twodifferent times with the Ravens,
(03:39):
and now you got this newdefensive coach, you got this
new aura over the city andyou're right there, this new
team.
You see any similarities tothis champ, this possibility of
a championship run versus theold Raven team.
Cordell Woodland (03:59):
I would say the common denominator are the
defenses.
I mean this is definitely achampionship caliber defense
that the Ravens have Right now.
I would make the argument it'sthe best defense in the league.
I think on all three levelsthey're just a nightmare for
opposing offenses.
I mean we just saw in thecomplete dominating win over the
(04:23):
Seattle Seahawks this pastSunday that Gino and those guys
look lost.
I mean they looked like theydidn't know what they were
looking at out there and I hadasked Roquon Smith about that in
the locker room today, justabout why this defense is so
hard to figure out.
We're not seeing a lot ofhalftime adjustments from
(04:44):
offenses that are working.
I'm sure they're trying, but itdoesn't seem like much is
working.
And I thought Roquon gave areally good answer.
He talked about just how theirdisguising stuff really wails.
The look you get pre-snap isnot the same thing that you're
seeing after the snap and it'stough to make those in-play
(05:09):
reads and those reads aretotally different from the ones
you thought you saw.
Pre-snap is just so tough toactually figure out what they're
doing on the fly when they haveguys like Justin Mattabike and
Jadavia and Clowney and CalvinNeu and Patrick Queen and Cowes
Hamilton and Michael Peir Justso many people rushing the
(05:32):
quarterback right now.
So I would say, just looking atsome of those past Ravens teams
, the one common factor rightnow is probably the defense
inside of the ball.
Kold Krush (05:45):
Yeah, I definitely would agree upon that.
I remember me beating my chestfor Mike Madonna when we had a
chance to get him from Michiganand I listened to some of your
work on the winning podcastdrive and your co-host was like
she's all in on McDonald.
And I think one of the thingsthat he's very unique with is
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his the way of disguisingcoverages.
I mean, he just uses a lot ofmixed coverages.
He doesn't blitz like yournormal style blitz, and I don't
know if people don't know hiscoaching tree besides the Hall
balls.
But he learned from one of theNFL's best with Don Brown.
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I mean he was the master ofblitzes and he was at Michigan
right around the time he gotthere.
So it doesn't surprise me withall the stunts and everything
that's in his bag, we haven'tseen the best of him to come on
what this defense can be.
I think it's going to get morefierce as time progresses.
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I just hope that he's inBaltimore for a very long time
and I think he will be, becauseI don't think he has any desires
to be a head coach, because hejust understands just the
patience game.
The Baltimore Ravens played sowell that quarterback Lamar
Jackson spent the fourth quarteron the bench and because their
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defense was dominant.
Quote Mitchell, the undraftedfree agent from East Carolina,
ran wild and the Ravenseliminated the Seahawks to just
sixth first downs in 151 yards.
The Seahawks pun it severaltimes and turned the ball over
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on downs once, and then theycommitted two turnovers.
So that leads to my question iswhy the Baltimore Ravens
quarterback, lamar Jackson,should be the NFL MVP right now.
From my perspective, johnHallbaw overhauled the scheme by
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hiring offensive coordinatorTodd Munkin, who, in the same
role with the University ofGeorgia and helped the Bulldogs
win two national championshipsLast season.
In 12 games Jackson passed forthe 2K mark, 2,242 passing yards
with a 186.8 per game passed,which is stout.
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He also 203 attempts out of 326.
So that put him around 62.3passing percentage.
That was 17 touchdowns, seveninterceptions.
He had 112 carries on theground for 764 in yard and three
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touchdowns.
So right now Jackson is a plus1,500 favorite to win the NFL
MVP award in 2023.
So that's the fifth best yardsin the league and Gino passed
for 157 yards with interceptionand the Seahawks rushed 15 times
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just for 28 yards.
It's the fourth time Baltimoreheld upon it to fewer than 100
yards.
Then Mitchell carried the ballfor the first time for the
season on Sunday and heresponded with 138 yards and a
40 yard touchdown.
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So that's going to be anotherspotlight for the national media
, because they're going to bereally talking about Lamar
Jackson's 18 and 1 recordagainst NFC East Tim teams and
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how well he plays.
He plays very efficient versusthese teams.
He completed 21 or 26 for 187,ran for 60, did not produce a
touchdown, but the Ravens gained515 yards and gave Seattle his
worst loss since a 42-7 loss tothe Rams in 2017.
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So what does this mean for theSeahawks?
They're five and three.
They need to burn the tape andthe Seahawks were tied for first
place in the NFC West, withgames against the commanders
Rams coming up before they seenthe 49ers twice in three weeks.
That said, geno Smith needs tobe better.
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He was guilty of turnoversSunday, given Smith three
consecutive games with multipleturnovers, and it's an ugly
trend that just has to stop.
So what does this mean for theRavens?
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The Baltimore Ravens are sevenand two and there's a Super Bowl
contender.
The Ravens have now won two ofits NFC best over the past three
weeks, and both games were oververy, very early.
The Ravens racked up 298Russian yards at a 7.3 yards per
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man against the Seahawks, Whileadding four sacks to their
league best total.
the Ravens aren't overwhelmingat the skilled positions, but
they can run the ball.
Once you throw that in and wenton a weekly with their front
four, it's definitely somethingto take a look at.
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So, Corno, what's your thoughtson that and where do you stand
to be in that seriousconversation right now for the
MVP race?
Cordell Woodland (12:19):
Yeah, I mean I think right now you'd have to
say Lamar is in the MVP race.
I don't know if I would go asfar as to say that he's leading
the MVP race, but I do think hisname should be in there.
I mean, he's been one of thebest quarterbacks in the league
this year and he's not doing itthe way that we've seen him
necessarily do it in the past.
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I mean, he's still obviously avery dangerous runner with the
ball in his hands, but it's beenhim throwing the ball this year
that has really been killingopposing defense as he leads the
league in completion percentage.
And I get it.
You know the Ravens aren'tnecessarily the greatest show on
turf right now where they'rejust throwing the ball all over
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the field, especially down thefield.
The down the field passing gamewas probably the last big
Marvel guy, so that's probablythe last Infinity Stone, I would
say for this Ravens offense andthis team.
It's for them to start.
He's a mid-shoot.
He did have a great gameagainst the Eagles.
I think what makes him sodangerous for the Ravens is that
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he gives them the possibilityof being that home run hitter.
We just haven't seen home runhitting plays from this offense
to this point in the season Notin the past game, nor in the run
game.
Even Lamar I mean Lamar has runthe ball well, but we haven't
seen any 70-yard touchdown runsfrom Lamar this year.
We haven't seen big passingplays resulting in touchdowns
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either.
So the CK Mitchell, come outthere and do what he did Sunday.
I think that is what gives youthe idea that this offense can
be even more dangerous if hecould stay healthy.
But yeah, I think, all in all,lamar is showing you what he can
be.
When you put Tyler around him,this is obviously the most Tyler
he's had around him in his timein Baltimore.
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He's cashing in on it and Istill think that Tyler could be
better.
To be honest with you, I thinkthe Tyler around him could
definitely still be improvedgoing forward.
But to see Lamar lookingcomfortable as a passer,
defenses are trying to force himto stay in the pocket and beat
them with his arm, and he'sdoing that easily right now, and
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I think everybody is finallygetting to see the type of
complete player that LamarJackson is.
He's not just a runner, he'snot just a mobile quarterback,
he is a total package type ofquarterback and I just feel like
in this day and age, where youhave guys like Miles Garrett and
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TJ Wadden, nick Bolson, allthose types of guys who are just
so good off the edge, you needsomebody like Lamar that can not
only move but can also teardefenses up through the passing
game as well.
Kold Krush (15:09):
I absolutely agree with that coldheartedly and I
feel like we just need to takeour hat off to John Harbaugh
with what he was able to do overthe last couple of years.
And EDC I mean the Ravens GMhas surrounded a collection of
offensive talent he has hadduring his tenure there.
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Most know the superstarreceiver, odell Beckham, holly,
sought after first round pick,say Flowers, the more talented
with all pro tight end MarkAndrews, jk even though JK's
heard and Gus receivers Bateman,duvernay, nelson, aguilar.
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And you got to take your hatoff to John Harbaugh for being
able to bring in offensivecoordinator Todd Munkin to
basically propel this team andget them into the next phase or
the next era of being a Ravensfan, or a completely different
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team than we're used to.
Munkin is probably the mostsignificant addition as he's
going to help develop Jackson,be the best version of himself
moving forward.
So, jackson, I would like tosee him play a little bit more
Nohado, a simple offensive usingthe quarterbacks, mobility as a
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great asset moving forward, andI like the direction that
Munkin is going.
So I just wanted to know yourthoughts on the spread formation
with the big moment, because Ijust believe down the stretch
this season, jackson will facethe Bangles, chargers, jaguars,
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49ers, dolphins and severalPittsburgh Steelers in which
will be gigantic playoffimplications.
As far as a matchup, baltimoreis going to spread team out,
creating space for skilledplayers and attacking positive
matchup for Jackson and can bemore accurate and efficient
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while saving his bestperformances for the biggest and
urgent moments.
Cordell Woodland (17:29):
I think offensively, like I said, the
default is the next thing thatneeds to show up.
I think the offensive linecould be a little more
consistent than what they'vebeen.
They haven't been terrible as aunit.
I think the offensive line hasbeen fine, but this isn't Ronnie
Stanley's best year, so that'sa little bit of a problem,
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especially when you're going upagainst a team like the Browns
who has a Miles Garrett liningup on that side.
Just this past week againstSeattle, boye Moffay beats
Ronnie Stanley off the edge andit turns into a strip sack on
Lamar.
You've got to be able toprotect the blindside and
they're paying Ronnie Stanley alot of good money to be able to
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do that.
That's been one of the concernsfor me is how will Ronnie
Stanley hold up as the year goeson Between that and the
down-to-field passing game?
Those are really my only twoconcerns about this Ravens team
going forward.
They cleaned up the Red Zoneissues.
They've shown the ability torun the ball.
They've shown the ability tothrow the ball and throw it
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accurately.
But those big plays, some ofthose splash plays, they're
still missing right now.
This has been an offense thatcan methodically walk up and
down the field.
They're missing some of thosechunk plays.
Once they start getting that,that's when there'll be a very
dangerous offense.
Kold Krush (18:52):
Even with the Giro offense they didn't go vertical
enough.
And now you have these newweapons, so it shouldn't be any
reason not to go vertical withZay Flowers, Rashad Bateman,
Nelly OBJ it's a lot of stuff tothe boundary they haven't
abandoned, going to stuff acrossthe middle.
And even last, I would like tosee them push it more often,
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even if it's not there and whenI mean not there, I mean even if
they don't connect but just toget defenses to honor them, to
take that shot or do a littlebit more play action and go
something directly down thefield or exploit the seams a
little bit more.
I think we will get theexplosive plays but for whatever
reason, we just keep gettingthe boundary outs and the deep
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curls but we're not gettingenough shot plays.
We can get that because ToddMonk has revamped his offense
three different times.
Tampa Bay looked a little bitdifferent, Georgia looks
different from when he was atCleveland, but Cleveland got
some big chunk.
Wondering if he's just tryingto just make sure they got the
basics before we pull out someof the other stuff.
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Either way, it's exciting towatch the offense play.
What's your thought?
You think we should do it alittle bit more or, you like,
the creativity of thisunbalanced line that they've
been doing.
Cordell Woodland (20:12):
Yeah, I mean I do like Spread.
I mean that was Monk and saidhe wanted to do when he first
got get some spacing out there.
And they still have some oftheir spacing issues.
Still, I just like differentlooks.
I don't mind the off-balancelooks either, I just I like
being able to mix it up.
I don't like being predicted.
I just think that's one of thenumber one things.
Whether you're coaching offenseor defense in football you can't
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be predictable.
Once teams know what you'redoing, it's that much harder to
be successful.
So the more you can do, I dothink the Ravens can be a
Functional offense in the spreadthey have been.
I don't know if they could.
They'll be able to continue todo some of this five wide stuff,
though I don't think they canreally go empty as much as they
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used to the ball, ronnie Stanleyand his struggles to this point
in the season and that rightthere.
I I just don't think goingempty is very feasible for this
team right now Because you justdon't have that type of
protection, especially from yourleft tackle.
You're just not getting like aprotection to be able to sit
there and empty sets.
If they are, you're gonna haveto get the ball out very fast
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and as good as Lamar has beenthrowing the ball this year
Timing hasn't always been andgreat.
During his three-step drug goalwants that back foot hits the
ground and that's really notLamar's game.
Lamar likes to extend the play,he likes to make something
happen, he likes to get out ofthe pocket and keep his eyes
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down fit.
All those things are fine.
It's just when you're going inthose five wide sets you you're
not Given that time tonecessarily be to be able to
extend the play the way that younormally like.
So I would kind of put a pauseon those, on some of that five
wide stuff, until you get to thepoint to where you found some
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of the concepts, some of thepast concepts, that Lamar likes
that he can get the ball out ofhis hands as fast as you need
him to in those situationsbecause I've seen Cole Jackson
speak about Ronnie in his anchorpoint and I just, I just think
he just doesn't trust the ankle,so he's not, he's not, he's not
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putting it in the grass buteither, whatever the reason is,
we can't keep waiting for him tocome around.
Kold Krush (22:30):
It's always the discussion around trade time or
what do we need?
You know you got some peoplethat's divided, said you know
the trade deadline, which yougot a defensive end.
Some people wanted something, anew pass right, some people was
beating for running back andeven in the draft, those who
gets super excited are stillseeing the same things.
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And I think it's conversationthat the ravers need to reinvest
in the offensive line.
The trade line is already gone,so early picks and needs to be
spent in In more than oneposition on the offensive line.
To the credit what you said, toallow Lamar to Extend the play,
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to have more time, to not havepeople, and then we can see a
more explosive plays.
Because, as of right now, itseemed like the reason why it's
not happening is because hedoesn't have enough time to go
through his progressions or makeor make the read, and when he
does have the read is eitherMoses is not holding his block
or Stanley's not holding his,and I think EDC has surrounded
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Jackson with a collection ofoffensive talent Doing offense
and defense with.
Now it's time to pay attentionto the office a line.
It's time.
It's time to beef up thatoffense a line.
I think they're still not usingOdell Beckham and the way that
they should be using OdellBeckham.
I love the way that they usingZay flowers, even with the
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talent of Mark Andrews on theteam.
That's just my personal opinion.
I think it's now it's time tofocus on the trenches or figure
out something else.
Maybe let filet-le-tri lefttackle or or something.
Because, like you said, lamaris not getting the time he needs
and in this taught Munkin'soffense.
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All the pieces are there, it'sjust just now, I think.
Now the question is it will theoffice a line be Consistent in
giving him what he needs to moveforward?
Because, like you said, far asthe spread, formation and big
moments going down the stretch,we got Jacksonville, we got the
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Chargers, the bangles, the 49ersand the dolphins, the last, the
last game of the year, whichall of these can be playoff
implications and matchups, and Idon't think that our office a
line is to the point and I run agame has self consistently
enough to gash you for big playsto be in five wide constantly
To take advantage of thesematchups.
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So something definitely has tochange Moving forward.
So I was looking at thestrength of schedule for the
back half, I was looking at theBuffalo Bill stuff and I was
looking at ours as well.
What's your thoughts on theschedule For us to basically
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chase that number one seed or doyou don't really care if we get
the one or two seed, then go onto the playoffs?
I mean, I definitely will thinkseeding matters.
Cordell Woodland (25:33):
I mean, if you make it so that everybody has
to come through Baltimore,that's an advantage for them for
sure.
Rather play the Chiefs at home,then go to Kansas City.
You'd rather play the bills athome than go to Buffalo or have
to go to Cincinnati for thesecond time in the season.
(25:54):
So yeah, I mean, if you couldget that first seed, definitely
you'd love to do it.
I do think it'll be a challengefor the Ravens.
I mean, they've got these nexttwo division games been up here.
Both of these games are in thespan of five days.
So that's just going to betough.
I mean to go from this BrownI'm going to be a physical AFC
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North battle and then get readyto play the Bengals on Thursday
night, to pretty much have thatsame type of game all over again
.
It's challenging.
It's definitely going to put ahuge challenge on them.
Now the good thing is they doget taste before they have to go
to LA to take on the Chargers,who haven't looked good to this
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point in the season.
So you do feel good about that.
They've got 10 days and thenright after that they've got the
bi-week before they take on theLA Rams.
So it's definitely some toughgames on this schedule.
I mean when you look at it andyou look at, you got
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Jacksonville and Jacksonville onSunday night, then Christmas
night in San Francisco thefollowing week.
Then you come back home to facethe Dolphins and the Steelers
to end the season.
I mean that four game stretchat the end of the year is going
to be tough.
It's going to be incrediblytough.
I mean right now all four ofthose teams are playoff teams on
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the back end of the schedule,so it won't be easy games at all
.
I mean it's tough to imagine theRavens winning out.
First of all.
I mean that's just tough and atough acts for anybody.
Like at some point they'regoing to have a let down, even
defensively as good as they areoffensively.
People got to preparethemselves for them to have an
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off day at some point.
Of course nobody wants that tohappen, but realistically it's
just it balance.
Is it ever?
You know it's just balance.
It all evens out at the end andso you got to prepare for that
Candice offense.
Hold their own.
If the defense doesn't show up,we'll see.
But I do think the Ravens havea tough schedule.
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I do think they'll be a toughout in the playoffs, no matter
where they're seated.
But yeah, if they, if theycould get the number one seed,
I'm sure they'd love to, forsure.
Kold Krush (28:27):
Yeah, once we started the season they had the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Schrinford schedule is one ofthe hardest or toughest
schedules is going to be verytough, but I believe that the
Ravens are going to probably I'mgoing to sound like a homer I
think they're going to go fiveand no down the stretch.
I like this Browns this weekand then I like Cincinnati on
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the short week.
The Ravens don't lose to meCrime time games, especially not
Thursday night games, followedby the Chargers.
Then they go on their buy andthen they play the Rams.
I kind of like that stretch,even after that when they play
the tougher slate.
If they can just go two for twodown the stretch, I think
that'd be more than enough and Idon't think the Steelers game
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is going to have any any bearing.
I think they're going to haveenough wins in their belt that
we might not even be playingthat game.
The starters will probably besitting.
The way that the schedule isgoing to fall out, I don't think
you have to worry about thatgame.
So that, just that said waysinto who do you think is the
most fierce team in the AFCright now?
Cordell Woodland (29:29):
First team.
Let me look.
I just think until somebodydethrones them, the the chiefs
are going to be the best team inthe conference.
They're the best team.
It just is what it is.
Until somebody takes them offtheir throne, that's just where
it's going to be.
And the chief?
Dangerous because they're notjust beating you with Patrick
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Mahomes to Kelsey like they usedto.
I mean that's that defense isplaying at a high level right
now.
It's obviously not as good asthe Ravens defense, but we're
not used to talking aboutdefense when you talk about the
chiefs.
So it's just so dangerousbecause it's now.
Yet again they're findinganother way to win games.
Last year everybody said theycouldn't, their offense wouldn't
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be the same without Tyree Kale,and they were right.
Their offense wasn't the same.
So Kansas City found anotherway to be the best offense in
the NFL.
And now this year, you knowit's like the offense doesn't
seem like they're as dominant asthey have been, but that
defense has turned around andhave been one of the better
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units in the league.
So I still think it's KansasCity right now for me and the
AFC, and I put the Ravens behindthe chiefs, right behind the
chiefs, but for me it's theRavens and the chiefs and
everybody else in the AFC rightnow.
Kold Krush (30:51):
I'm a whole my opinion, because it's two clips
I want to play.
They're both, I think, like twominutes.
I think one may be threeminutes long, but Sterling Sharp
was on first tank with StephenA Smith celebrating a big moment
in his life because he was ableto do something at Savannah
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State.
I mean, I think it was SavannahState and they was talking
about the Ravens.
So I'm going to play this clip.
I don't know if you heard italready, but it's kind of is
exactly the same topic and thisis what he thinks.
Cordell Woodland (31:24):
Curious, so I imagine the students are as well
.
Who's the most dangerous teamin the AFC Sterling?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I still have to go with Joe Burrow and the
Cincinnati Bengals.
But here's why, when you lookat confidence, you go OK, who do
we have to face if this thingkeeps going?
Baltimore's in our division.
So we know them and we're goingto see them.
We've already been to KansasCity and dispatch them.
We just got rid of Buffalo onSunday night.
This is a football team that,if all things being equal, they
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can stay as healthy as they areright now, the way Joe Mixon is
starting to run the football.
They don't fear anyone, buteveryone fears them because
they've gone into Kansas Cityand played big and gotten to a
Super Bowl.
Lamar Jackson, for all hiswonderful play, mvp in our
league couldn't get his team tothe big dance.
Joe Burrow did that.
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And so when you look atconfidence and I think that that
is one of the biggest thingsthat people lose is their
confidence.
But when the Cincinnati Bengalsgot Joe Burrow back at
quarterback, their confidencewent sky high.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Again, I would respectfully disagree with you,
which is hard for me to saybecause I've been raving about
Joe Burrow and the CincinnatiBengals for a long while, and
I'm still not stopping.
It's just that now I'm payingattention to two components
Sterling.
Number one, the defense, whichI already articulated.
Number two this kid Keatonmissed you.
And then I have Kariol Seesalong, rushed for 138 yards
yesterday.
(32:47):
This is a team that was beingmaligned for not trading for a
running back before the tradingdeadline.
And then, the next thing youknow, they show up and they
rushed for 238 yards the verynext game.
Whatever you perceive as beingtheir weakness, the Baltimore
Ravens step up to the plate andsay nah, we know what we're
doing.
Kold Krush (33:04):
So I don't know if you had a chance to listen to
that clip, but I was justwondering what your take was.
Cordell Woodland (33:08):
Yeah, I mean I can't get upset with anybody
that chooses to believe in theBengals.
I mean they have gone to backto back AFC championships.
They was on the road.
They have been a team that isdangerous.
They're dangerous with JoeBurrow.
It just is what it is.
They got one of the better widereceiver units in the NFL and
their well coached team.
(33:29):
I would say that I don't thinkeverybody fears the Bengals.
I don't think the Ravens fearthe Bengals.
I don't believe anybody in thisdivision fears the Bengals.
I don't think anybody in thisdivision is scared of any team
in this division.
I just think that's how theyoperate.
But I will say, you know, yeah,lamar hasn't gotten his team to
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the Super Bowl or even to theAFC championship game.
That is violent.
But I mean it's not.
Regardless of what people think, I'll say it's not a
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quarterback driven thing.
Yes, quarterbacks are arguablythe most important position on
the team, but it's not the end,all be all.
We've seen plenty of all timegreat quarterbacks not reach the
promised land.
It's a team award, it's a teamaccomplishment.
Joe Burrow has had a better teamthan Lamar has fully over the
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last couple of years, for sure,and Lamar hasn't even been
healthy on the back end of thelast two seasons.
And that's no knock on JoeBurrow, that's not Joe Burrow's
fault.
He came in and had Jamar Chaseand T Higgins and Tyler Boyd and
those guys and he playing withtheir hand.
He was dealt.
I would just say that Lamar noware obviously has the best team
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he's been with and his time inthe NFL.
I just like to see what happensnow, and both teams as possible
will see what happens, and it'snot just the Ravens.
I think Buffalo, as as hot andcold as they can be, they're
still a team to watch in the AFCas well.
But yeah, I mean I can't getupset with anybody deciding to
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trust the Bengals more than theRavens, especially with the way
the last couple of seasons havegone.
Kold Krush (35:29):
I guess that's what we did, because I'm not
discrediting the Bengals.
They have a great quarterback,they got an amazing trio but I
just give it a hard time to givethem, give them their credit
when credit is due, when I knowwhat happened in that division
so two years.
But I think the context ismissing, that the fact that
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everyone I mean everyone fromtop to bottom was hurt except
for them two years ago when,when they was about to do it I
think that's the year the Ravenshad like 26 guys that was hurt
and we was still winning thatdivision.
And we was winning thatdivision.
The Browns was looking good.
They had Baker he had theshoulder injury.
They had Odell he was goingwith his injuries.
They had Jarvis Landry he washaving his injuries.
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And then you had the Steelersand they was playing well and
they had key guys I mean keyguys on offense and defense that
they was missing and, forwhatever reason, the bangle was
the last dog in the fight andthey was healthy.
And then the next year it wasthe same thing, and one of those
years I think we kind of stillbasically finished about the
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same, but they had to head thehead.
So they ended up winning thedivision.
And then, I mean, they wentinto the playoffs and they
played well against whoever theywas matched up with, but the
road to get there was theydefinitely had some help because
everyone else was going to becompletely beat up.
I mean I'm not talking aboutmissing one guy, I mean they're
missing several stars and theytook advantage of that.
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But I just find it that now thisyear, with their completely
healthy, the rest of thedivisions completely healthy the
Ravens are not getting the same, the same do, or the other
teams in the division is notgetting the same.
Dude Like that.
People are already crowningthem as the team to be feared
and I just kind of disagree withthat.
I don't even have them makingthe playoffs.
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I don't see them making theplayoffs.
I don't see them defyinghistory two years in a row
starting off 0-3 and doing itfor the third time in a row,
even with the stealer offenselooking non-existent, even with
the Browns with theirquarterback conservatory,
because both those teams do havedefense as well and I just like
(37:42):
their schedules down thebackstretch a little bit better
than I like the bangles.
Cordell Woodland (37:47):
I mean I hear you on the injury stuff.
I would just say that'sfootball.
I mean everybody deals withinjuries, even I mean Joe
Burroughs lost the season due toACL.
T Higgins has been banged upthis year.
He's missed games this year.
Jamar Chase is dealing with aback issue now that he just
(38:10):
suffered his pass game, so we'llsee how that impacts him.
That's not I mean I don't wantto sit here and preach for the
bangles.
I don't, but they've had one ofthe.
Their offensive line has been ahuge Achilles heel.
It's not many teams that areable to make it to the Super
Bowl with the offensive linethey had that year.
I just I do think this is agood team.
(38:32):
I hear you that the Ravens andother teams in the division
dealt with injuries.
That's a part of it.
Some of it's their own fault.
The Ravens like to bring inhurt players.
I mean hurt guys stay hurt.
That's the old analogy.
So if you continue to takethese gambles on players that
already have these injury redflags, then you can't look
(38:53):
shocked when guys start gettinghurt.
The harsh reality is when Lamargoes down, the Raven season
goes down right with them, butyou could say that for a lot of
different teams that when theylose their starting quarterback,
their seasons probably going tobe over.
So the Ravens aren't unique inthat aspect, but I mean just
(39:14):
even looking at them.
Like I said, I can understandwhy people would believe in the
Bengals.
Just off of how they've beenthe last couple of years,
they're still one of the betterteams in the AFC, just even in
this division.
I can't I don't know mepersonally, I can't put the
Pittsburgh or Cleveland ahead ofthe Bengals right now.
Kold Krush (39:38):
Man, I want to pull this clip real fast of Night
Cat with Ocho Sinko and AnkhChanning Sharp talking about
their opinion of who's on top ofthe AFC.
Cordell Woodland (39:56):
Okay, how about this here, the AFC power
rating?
You like the Ravens or you likethe Chiefs at the top of the
AFC?
Hey, that's tough.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Listen, let me see.
I'm going to Patrick Mahomesobviously 17 TDs.
To Lamar Jackson what nine TDs?
The Ravens defense only theRavens offense average 26 points
of games.
The Chiefs offense average 23points of game.
The Ravens defense obviouslyyou know the best in the league
(40:24):
only allowing 13 points of game.
I'm not sure what the Chiefsdefense allows, but if I was
leaning towards the team as faras the best in the AFC right now
, I'm going to go and it painsme to say this and I'm just
where they are right now withwhat I consider the midway point
in the NFL power wrinkle forthe AFC at the top right now is
the Ravens and that hurts.
(40:44):
That hurts me to have to admitthat, because you know my lead
is to the Bangles.
But the Ravens are doing notonly offensively but what
they're doing defensively inthis era, and this era is
unheard of man.
We in a past happy era.
If you run a hundred plays, youplay 14, 80 of them, goddamn
plays, through the air.
And you mean to tell me youonly allowing teams 13 goddamn
(41:07):
points, 13.
Shit, listen, I love the Chiefs, I love Patrick Mahomes, I love
what they've been able to do.
He's a two times Super Bowlwinner, he's a MVP winner, as is
Lamar Jackson.
But what Lamar and those Ravensare doing over there, man is
special and I can't wait and Iknow I'm going off a little
track here a little bit I can'twait Two more weeks, two more
(41:32):
weeks.
You know who they playing right.
Cordell Woodland (41:34):
The Bengals go to the sense of Thursday night
football November, november 16th, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
I hate that, what.
Cordell Woodland (41:41):
Because I want , I want, I don't want, neither
I don't want them on a shortweek.
That they should be on a fullweek.
Okay, I see what you mean.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
They should play Sunday to Sunday or Sunday to
Monday.
I have a question you wouldknow better than I do Can they
flex that?
Can they flex that the Sundayand change no?
Cordell Woodland (41:57):
No, you can flex.
You can flex out of Sunday, youcan't flex out of Monday.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
No, it's the Thursday , though it's the.
Cordell Woodland (42:03):
Thursday night game.
I mean, you know what I'msaying.
You can flex out of a Sundaynight and I think you can flex.
Can you flex out of Monday?
I don't think you can flex outof Monday.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I think it's just Sunday.
Cordell Woodland (42:13):
I think it's the NBC game that you can flex
out of, but you can't doanything with Thursday and
Monday night.
Great with you.
Ocho Ravens are 7-2, run 4straight.
They have a plus 115 pointdifferential, which is the
biggest in football by a widemargin.
And here's the thing.
Just imagine how good theRaiders are going to be when
they eliminate the weeklyone-two turnover game, that's
(42:36):
cool.
Yeah, just think about that now.
Yeah, to play a clean game,because we talked about it.
Ocho is that when you turn theball over, you either raise the
team up to your level or youstep down to their level,
because if you're better than ateam, the only way a team can
get up to your level is you comedown to theirs.
(42:56):
It's kind of like you're goingto fight.
That's why Ocho is that whenpeople, when you're up here and
you reach a certain level andpeople take shots at you Steve
Harvey told me this he's likethe only way they can hit me if
I come down to their level.
I'm so high up they're growingup.
It's hard to be accuratethrowing up here, but the only
(43:17):
time they can get me is when Icome down to their level.
They can crack me upside myhead when you turn the ball over
.
You're better than a team.
You come down to their level.
Now they can get you.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
When you think about it and I look at it from this
standpoint as well, based onwhere they are right now, and
another testament to wherethey'll be after the midway
point is, I look at theremaining schedules.
Obviously, the Chiefs have theEagles.
We don't know what's going tohappen there.
They got the Eagles, raiders,packers, bills, patriots.
That's their five coming up.
That's their next.
(43:49):
Well, yeah, that's their fivecoming up.
So boom.
I'm looking at the Ravens.
The Ravens remain in scheduleon teams or teams that they're
going to play that are possiblewins.
They got the Browns Bengals.
That's a loss.
They got the Chargers, rams,jaguars.
So out of that, that's fullgames.
All the Ravens, the Ravens, theRavens, the Ravens got their
(44:10):
mind on the number one Right now, based on their next, they won
the rope their next five games.
They going four on one.
They going four on one.
No, next five games.
So they going to be sittingreal nice and pretty, but come
November 16th they probablygoing to lose that one.
Cordell Woodland (44:27):
They ain't losing that one.
The Baltimore want the road toLas Vegas to go through.
You have to take a detourthrough Baltimore.
Kold Krush (44:37):
Man that was onc in old show speaking some game,
and I respect their opinions andalso I respect yours.
But see, I just I agree withthem, boys, and you know.
This is basically where I'm atas well.
Moving forward, this is where Ithink you know what should make
the difference moving forwardwith the Ravens.
They're just a different team,they're on a different mission
(44:59):
as well.
I just do not see three yearsin a row off the numbers,
regardless of who they have ontheir roster.
To overcome to come that, toovercome that.
They have a very narrow what'sthe word I'm looking for?
They don't have much room.
They don't have much room.
(45:20):
They basically have to win out.
I think it's too early to sayI'm talking about the Ravens?
They are, but at the same token,I personally don't think they
can afford to lose no more thanthree games.
I really my gut is telling meto, but I don't want to sound
like I'm talking from absolutes.
Just number wise, I just don'tthink that five or six wins in
(45:46):
the AFC in totality is going tobe enough to get you a wildcard
spot, Because it's definitelynot going to be enough to win a
division.
Cordell Woodland (45:57):
So five or six losses.
Kold Krush (45:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Five or six losses.
I don't, I don't think that'sgoing to be enough, based upon
head to head conference wins anddivision wins, once it all
shake out with the tire breakerson how stuff is so close, I
don't think that's going.
I don't.
I just don't think that's goingto cut it.
Cordell Woodland (46:14):
Well, you got to look at the standings already
.
I mean, it's already.
The league is bad this year.
It is.
That's the other thing.
There's already teams most ofthese AFC teams already have
three or four losses already.
So we could be looking at asituation where a nine and 18
gets into the seventh spot inthe wildcard.
(46:35):
I mean right now, all four AFCNorth teams are in the playoffs
today.
Kold Krush (46:40):
If it starts today, yeah, and they all got three
losses.
But you're right, that's why Idon't think getting up to five
or six losses you're going to,you're going to make it, and I
could be completely wrong.
I just don't, I just don't seeit.
I mean you got some other teamsthat hasn't been playing too
(47:01):
great, like the Texans, I thinkthey're, I think they're four
and four or something like that.
Then you got the charges hasbeen playing awful.
They're not out of it.
I mean currently, right now.
Like you said, if it startedtoday, all four AFC teams in the
North would be in it.
But the bills are right there,one game behind, and I think the
(47:25):
Jets as well.
I just don't see.
I'm with you.
I thought they didn't have theright field before they took off
from from the airport.
I didn't see them making theplayoffs.
I don't got them making theplayoffs.
But a team that I am keeping myeye on, even though they've been
playing Not well at all, is thecharges.
(47:45):
I think with their schedule, Ithink they can pull it out.
That's a team to look for.
I don't think the Texans gotenough juice to get there, but
the charges is a team that Ithink can squeak in there, like
you said, with a few losses,maybe five or six losses and
they can get in there, but Ithink their head to head and
their division wins is going tobe the reason why and I just
(48:07):
don't like the bangles scheduleand, far as division right now,
their division when lost recordis horrible right now compared
to the other teams.
They made some good points ontheir show nightcap of the same
stuff that we were just talkingabout.
Is there anything else youwanted to add?
Because I don't want to holdyou too long.
(48:28):
I know you normally do like a40 minute show, so I just want
to respect your time.
Cordell Woodland (48:32):
No, it's all good.
No, I mean I didn't really haveanything else.
I mean season step definitelystill a long way from over.
Health will be a big part of it.
I mean the second half of theseason is when you really got to
watch the Ravens and howhealthy they are, because that's
(48:53):
kind of been when their seasonkind of goes off track.
So just got to pay attention tohow healthy these guys are down
the stretch of the season.
Kold Krush (49:04):
Yeah, so it's going to be exciting.
I think at this point.
I think it goes back to whatyou said they have to handle
business.
I think if they win this weekfirst the Browns, they beat
Cincinnati.
I think the narrative changeacross the league on expectation
for the Ravens and also thenarrative change for the bangles
(49:25):
moving forward With theirseason.
We look out the overall outlookof the AFC in totality of where
things going to be.
But, like you said, it's stillgoing to be a long season.
But I think we'll have aclearer picture after the next
two weeks.
Cordell Woodland (49:42):
I agree.
Kold Krush (49:43):
Man, it's been fun.
Man, you know your ball.
They said you know your stuff,man, you know your stuff.
Cordell Woodland (49:49):
Yeah, I mean I've just always been a fan of
football.
Football is honestly my firstlove, so I mean I watched the
whole league.
Obviously, I watched the Ravenswith a closer eye, but yeah, I
mean I'm paying attention toeverything that goes on in the
league.
I just football.
I could kind of talk that allday, honestly.
Kold Krush (50:12):
Yeah, we kind of the same.
I watch all the teams.
I do watch the Ravens a littlebit more than other teams, just
because that's my squad, but I'dwatch a lot of football even.
I even watch a lot of collegetoo.
I don't know where I find thetime to do it, but I watch a lot
of college football.
I just can talk about it allday.
I think some of the things thatmade me want to do this podcast
(50:33):
I was doing with some other guysis that I just feel like when
you get older you kind ofappreciate the game a little bit
longer, even if you played oryou didn't play, and you look at
it from a different lens andyou just realize it's so much
about the game that you thoughtyou knew that you had no clue of
what's really going on and thatmakes it even more intriguing,
especially when you're a diehardfan or you are enthusiast and
(50:55):
you really just love football.
You realize it's differentexperiences of watching the game
beyond just watching the game.
You know you kind of deep intothe exes and those.
You looking more on the frontoffice side, the back office
side, the, the cat room stuff.
All that's intriguing, even theseating in college of how
things going and you get to thepoint where you started doing
(51:17):
player profiles and draftprofiles of players and it's
always a fun conversationbecause it's a unique
conversation, because it's neverthe same conversation.
I'm talking to sports, so Ijust enjoy watching from a fan
point of view and being able tohave an opportunity to talk with
guys like yourself.
Cordell Woodland (51:34):
For sure, man, I appreciate you having me.
Kold Krush (51:36):
So let the people know where they can find.
You will know if I you onTwitter.
You got multiple podcasts andyou got any big stuff that's
coming up that you want to share.
Cordell Woodland (51:45):
Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter or
Instagram at Cordell Woodland, cO C O R D E L L Woodland, w O D
L A N D.
You catch my show shaking it upsports on 105.
7 The Fan.
You could download the Odysseyapp and you can check my show
out.
I'm usually on weeknights.
(52:06):
You can listen on the Audacyapp if you're not able to be in
the car.
Also, my podcast, the winningdrive podcast, Reeta Hubbard.
We drop about three episodes aweek.
Wherever you get your podcastfrom, you could find that.
Kold Krush (52:19):
That's dope.
Make sure you support.
I'm going to make sure I getall the links from him.
I'm going to put it in thedescription for his Twitter
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As we wrap up, thank you forlistening to YAAAAk.
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