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November 20, 2023 59 mins

In this episode, we're joined by Susan Liao, a product leader and champion of liberatory leadership working at the intersection of digital innovation, social entrepreneurship and non-profit impact strategy.

In this episode, we chat about:

  • Her journey into tech and product
  • Navigating her life through agencies and startups
  • Pivoting from the corporate world to impact-driven work
  • Conforming into inequitable systems and role, and shifting away to find her voice
  • Why we adapt as marginalized communities and how to break away from upholding inequitable systems
  • What’s in Susan’s “kitchen sink”
  • The future of work, diversifying the spaces we are a part of, and creating different forms of distributing wealth
  • Challenging existing systems of work, capitalism, and labor
  • The concept of "Space, pace, and grace" - how are we acknowledging rest as part of our work?
  • Honoring the north star of the communities around us
  • Creating more intention behind our beliefs, words, and actions
  • The importance of rest and filling our cup

You can find Susan at:

Susan's first startup experience:
 
Emergent Strategy
https://adriennemareebrown.net/book/emergent-strategy/

Petra Vega (She/Her/Ella), Liberatory Leadership Coach, Facilitator, Radical Social Worker and Emergent Strategist
 
Ruha Benjamin
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