September 2, 2025 • 30 mins
What happens when embodying characters becomes a path to self-discovery?
Actress Alaina Huffman shares how her roles, from Black Canary to Abaddon, have shaped her perspective on strength, vulnerability, and gratitude.
💡What you will learn:
- Lessons from her new film, Waltzing with Brando, and the power of simply existing
- How auditioning dozens of times a year built resilience and purpose
- Why fandom and philanthropy have redefined her impact beyond the screen
🗝️Key takeaways:
- Vulnerability can be a superpower, not a weakness
- Every opportunity is a chance to grow, even without recognition
- Life is richer when you choose to play and enjoy the process
Listen now to hear Alaina's inspiring journey and reflect on how you can bring more play and gratitude into your daily life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Yoga Nation, the Spirit of Gratitude
podcast on the One Integrationplatform.
Hello friends, my name isYogesh Patel and this podcast
explores the themes of bullying,self-awareness and the power of
our inner spirit, including thesilent battles we all face.
Join me every week as I invitehigh-profile guests, as we
explore how adversity shapes us,how gratitude lifts us and how
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we can all uncover the innerstrength that we all have within
ourselves.
Join the conversation.
I appreciate you listening in.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Have you ever thought that playing a character on
stage or screen could actuallyhelp you discover more about
yourself?
My next guest does just thatfor a living the talented and
beautiful Canadian actress,Elena Huffman, known for
bringing unforgettablecharacters to life, from Black
Canary in Smallville to thefierce Abaddon in Supernatural
and the resilient TJ in StargateUniverse.
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Beyond the screen, Elena'sjourney through playing heroes,
villains and everything inbetween has given her a rare
perspective on strength,identity and self-awareness.
We'll explore how stepping intothese different roles has
shaped the way she understandsherself and how those lessons
can be applied to all of us.
With gratitude, welcome to thepodcast, Elena Hi.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Hi, I love that intro .
Thank you, I'm going to walkaround with that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
There you go, beautiful and talented you are
certainly.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thank you, it's so nice to be here with you.
Thank you for having me.
Absolutely.
You've got a new movie comingout.
Tell us about it.
Yes, waltzing with rando.
Um, it is a a great movie aboutmarlon rando, the late great
marlon rando, and his desire toum inhabit the island of tete
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aroa in tahiti.
Um, so it takes place in tahitiin the 70s and and the thing
that I love about it, the reasonI signed on for it a couple of
reasons.
The main one was the nostalgialike to tell a story about such
a huge, iconic character likeMarlon Brando and to see it from
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his personal perspective, likehe recounts and we say it many
times in the movie like being intahiti and I can attest to this
is like is just existing andit's um I remember we had, we
have some I'm sorry, justexisting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
like there's no, uh, he often he referred to his
Oscars as doorstoppers, like sowhen he was in Tahiti he just
was.
He wasn't a movie star, hewasn't, you know, expected to do
anything, he just existed andwe had, we had several drivers
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and things while we were there.
You know, getting us to andfrom and I remember really cool
perspective is like one of mydrivers was like how are you
enjoying the island?
And I was like it's great.
And they said you're so lucky,there's nothing to do here, you
can just be.
And then the other driver saidyou're so lucky, there's so much
to do here.
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And they meant the same thing.
It was like there's time to be,it's hiking and fishing and
napping and just existing andit's yeah.
So the story takes place ofBrando inhabiting this island
and so my character I play Dana,and I'm married to Bernard
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Judge, who is played by JohnHeater, and he's an architect
who gets the infrastructuretogether, and so we camp on this
island for three years and eatcoconuts and crabs and
homeschool our daughter and, andit's all for this vision that
Brando had, which is now a veryexclusive hotel, the Brando, and
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it's owned in part by LeonardoDiCaprio and it's an
environmental feat and he had,he had a big emphasis on the
environment even way back then.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Is that close to the Island of Morea?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, we actually shot it on Morea.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh, really Okay, I vacationed there.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, so see, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I can't stand that.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You like to be busy?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, I love my naps.
In fact, I chase tranquility,that calm, undisturbed mind
which is, I think, what not eventhe tropics, but any beach,
does for you, because I thinkthat the saltwater itself acts
as a natural healing mechanism,where it absorbs negativity.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, and anywhere you go, as you know, on the
island of morea is like it's notvery big and, um, it's just
majestic.
Also, we shot in the winterthere it was june, so it was
winter for them um, so the sunwent down at like 5 pm and, uh,
we stayed.
We stayed on this beautifulcoconut farm.
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Oftentimes when I'm away doing amovie like's, it's a little
bittersweet because I I'm asingle mom of four kids, so I
have to like delegate and, youknow, figure out a system to
have my kids, cause they're allin school and stuff, and so I do
have systems in place.
I've got a great supportivefamily, um, so there's a little
anxiety along with that.
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And then also I go from beinglike a full-time mom to just
working as an actor and it's alittle bit of a shift and it can
be kind of lonely to be onlocation, and so I really
enjoyed the process of like Ijust really went in, I started
to work.
I worked with a coach the wholesix weeks I was there and I did
a lot of like introspectivework.
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Coach the whole six weeks I wasthere and I did a lot of like
introspective work and at 5 pm alot of times I'd take a shower,
I'd read a book and I'd go tobed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was beautiful and how do you actually choose your
characters?
I mean, is it the director, isit the script, is it the depth
of the of the characterthemselves?
How do you, as an actor, dothat?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's a version of all of the things.
I mean.
I think it was Michael Caine.
He said you know, an actortakes a job for a few reasons.
One, they really really lovethe script.
Two, they really love thecharacter.
Three, they have to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's not reverse order.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah Well, yeah, I mean we're self-employed, right,
and so a lot of times, like ifyou get an offer or an option
comes to you and you're notdoing anything and you might not
love the script.
I actually did a movie earlylast year.
Um, I thought about the middleof the movie I was like, was
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this written on chat?
Gpt guys?
Like it did not have a lot ofcharacter depth and it was, and
you know that when it's likereally hard to get into the
character, but you know it, itpaid me and I was able to do the
job and feed my family.
So lots of different reasons,and sometimes you, you don't
know, I mean with, withSupernatural.
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I had no idea that playing thischaracter would lead to 15
years of being on this worldtour with a fandom that's just
robust and amazing and embraciveand supportive and
philanthropic.
I mean it's amazing to be apart of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, you're very popular at Comic-Con.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, we're like on tour, like we're Mick
Jagger.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We're like on tour like a rock a mcjagger.
I'm sorry, we're like on tour,like like a rock star like the
stones, huh like exactly thesame got keith, richards and uh
and the entourage.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, take us, uh, take a step back, uh, for us.
Elena, how did you get in into,how did you get into acting and
how did you know that this wasyour chosen path?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
it literally just happened to me.
Um, I think I just, and I Ifeel this way about everything
in my life.
I just sort of allow and andthen sort of lean into what
feeds me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I guess if I were to like really look at, I'm
sorry you you you mentionedallow, because, willie, what I
want to do is unpack that andbring and bring it to light
where perhaps a person that'slistening to the room, if
they're perhaps uncertain abouttheir career choice or what they
should do, especially forcollege graduates, you mentioned
(08:16):
allow, could you elaborate fromthat perspective?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I love to be in a space of.
The only way I can describe itis like a visual and that's just
literally like heart, openposture, like you would do in a
yoga class, at the top of yourmat, you know, you just
literally are a vessel and allow, I think, get out of your head
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and get into your heart.
So I know, easier said thandone, but it's a practice, right
?
Anyone who meditates, anyonewho is, you know, studies the
word.
I mean it's a practice.
I'm a gym rat Like you.
Don't go to the gym and bench350, you build.
And so I think the process ofcreating and curating your life
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as an artist is allowingopportunities to present
themselves and then pivoting,being available.
So I think you can study, Ithink you can have an idea of
what you want to do and I wouldsay, always be open to oh, it's
not what I thought, but it'swhat I felt and move towards the
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feeling.
Um, so I don't know.
That's kind of the way it'salways happened for me.
So I started.
Ironically, my dad put my sisterand I in these speech classes.
I was about eight years old orso, and he's a business guy,
he's a, he's an engineer with adegree in business, and so he
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was a high level executive inthe tech world and he wanted us
to have confidence.
He wanted us to to be able topublic speak, and I think his
dream would have been like I'dbe a scholar or something he
didn't know.
He turned me into an artist.
I can play one, and it was likethis quirky theater teacher in
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the Stratford theater in Ontariowhich is very famous.
Bill Shatner came up throughthere and so I just I think that
was probably the origin of it.
It at least planted a seed, andthen I was scouted in a mall
several years later, when I was14.
Um, and as a model, and uh, Iwas living in Vancouver at the
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time, and that again I just sortof the scout approached me and
my mom at the mall, um, and Iwent in for the meeting, yeah,
and they said, oh, you'd be, I'ma model scout, I'm interested
in you know, seeing if, if you'dbe interested in modeling, and
so we went in for the meetingand I think, like a couple of
months later, I was in Tokyoworking as a model.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But you had to put yourself in that position,
though I mean maybe not you, butcertainly that fateful day
where you and your mom did go tothe mall.
So I think part of it is yes,you allow yourself to have these
experiences, but on the flipside, you need to put yourself
in those positions.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean that was literally likea stranger just kind of
approached us, but.
But yeah, I mean just justbeing being.
And then, and then I did thatfor years.
Um, all throughout high school,I homeschooled myself, I was a
model and, um, yeah, we didn't,we didn't have laptops, we
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didn't have email.
I would carry all my books andI'd FedEx my uh, my papers back
and get them FedExed back, andso I kind of had a system for
that.
And then, when I was 18, I wasliving in Germany and my parents
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, my dad, got relocated to Texasand I was under 21, and so I
qualified for citizenship underhis visa and, um, this was pre
nine, 11.
Uh, and he worked for Motorola,so it was a huge company and
you know, the immigrationprocess was, you know, very
handled on our part.
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Um, and uh, I was modeling alot in Texas and then New York,
and then my agency sat me downat one point and she said you
know, we're seeing more and moreactors on the covers of
magazines and less models.
We're going to open atheatrical division.
Do you have any interest?
And I was like I think so.
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I did this thing when I was akid.
You know little theaterprograms and I just started
making movies and it just kindof again.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I just, I just said yes, wow.
Again, you allowed yourself tosay yes, and the proverbial let
the chips fall where they may,yeah, well, that leads me to my
next question.
I mean, every character you'veplayed, from Black Canary to
Abaddon, carries.
Carries a different type ofstrength.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Abaddon is the pronounced solution, just to
correct it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
yeah, Abaddon, thank you.
So again, you've played thesecharacters that had a different
type of strength, and whenyou've stepped into these roles,
how much of Elena sneaks in andhow much do they end up
teaching you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I always learn.
I'm always so incrediblygrateful for all of those
experiences.
And you know, I get asked a lotlike what, what's your favorite
character that you've played?
And my joke is it depends onyou know.
It's like it's like choosingyour favorite kid it depends on
the day.
Who's being a brat, who's youknow, um, but they're all very
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distinct times in my life and,um, a lot of that is the
influence of how I played them.
And so, um, TJ on on Stargate,she's probably one that's like
the most near and dear to myheart.
I think I learned so much fromher.
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I didn't like her at first.
I thought she was annoying.
I thought she was a bit of acrybaby.
She would always cry.
She was like I had to surrenderto my vulnerability and that
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was her superpower.
She expected to be honored andloved and she expected to be
supported and I kind of didn't.
I was more like muscle throughit, you know headstrong, and
she's a soldier, you know she's,she's trained to to fight and
she's also a medic.
But she still was like,empowered by her vulnerability,
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and I learned a lot from her.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And that's not necessarily a weakness, correct.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, no, that's her strength, that's her superpower
and I just learned so much fromher.
And it was also a veryinteresting time in my life
Personally.
I was pregnant on the show.
I got pregnant during the firstseason and I didn't mean to.
I actually probably should havegot divorced, to be honest, but
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we made up and had a baby andthey wrote it in and it was a
really cool storyline for TJ.
But it was probably the bestyear of my marriage because we
had reconciled and then we endedup getting divorced a few years
later.
But that whole time frame in mylife was amazing and I credit
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that to TJ's presence in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Fictional life helped with your non-fictional life.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I think there's always a part of you that's
going to be in your characters.
Abaddon is like the queen ofhell.
She's pure evil.
She has no humanity.
She's a lot of fun, but she'stremendously arrogant.
I mean she like to her owndetriment.
That's what took her out.
And I always say she, she was,she chose to be possessed.
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Josie is her vessel, her humanvessel.
You gotta follow the lore.
Josie is her, her human vessel.
You gotta follow the lore um.
Josie is her, her human vessel.
And she chose um to bepossessed by Abaddon because she
felt it was an opportunity.
She's from the 60s and she feltit was an opportunity to sort
of break the glass ceiling.
As a woman, and I alwaysthought like the better story or
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a more empowered storyline ifthey were to continue that
storyline after abaddon diedwould be to tell the story of
josie, because she's a human,she has human qualities and she
has desire and she has passionand she has strength, but she
also has vulnerability andempathy and um.
You know all the things abaddondid not have.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So, between your characters and you as a person,
elena, what would you say to aperson that is perhaps going
through a challenge in theirlife, that, whether they're
trying to overcome adversity orperhaps redefine strength
through gratitude, so how, whatwould you say to that person?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, I love what you're doing with gratitude,
because I think that is just theessence of function in your
daily life.
I'm a, you know I'm a.
I'm a believer in in God and Iread scripture and I I I feel
like there's more moments in myday that I'm in gratitude than
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not.
I know I know the opposite ofof you know life that I live.
Um, I think sometimes whenwe're uncomfortable, we want to
escape it and I would justencourage um sitting sometimes
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in the discomfort, not notgetting help.
But I don't know if we have todistract ourselves all the time.
Um, I know that this is like atrend.
People say like they're rawdogging their flight, like
they're not going to listen tomusic or watch movies.
I travel all over the world.
I never turned the TV on Um, ifanything, I'll have like
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meditation, music and I just siton a 14 hour flight.
I think sometimes we need tosit and be um, which is what
Brando learned in uh in, uh inTahiti.
But um, no, I'm not sayingsuffer, I think there's, you
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know there's, there's.
There's a time where there's adifference.
There's a time when you need toget help.
There's a time when you do needto escape elements.
If it's a toxic family life orwork environment, I mean, there
are obviously definite reasonsto seek help and understand why
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you're uncomfortable or beingabused.
You know, we definitely don'twant to make excuse for abuse.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think there's also a similarity between your
profession of acting andgratitude.
I mean actors, and I got thisfrom ChatGBT around perspective
and empathy.
It says actors step into otherpeople's lives, seeing the world
through their eyes.
Gratitude works similarly.
It shifts the focus from what'smissing to what's meaningful,
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helping people empathize withothers' struggles and triumphs.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I love that.
Yeah, I mean I love that.
Yeah, I mean I feel that it's,it's um, you know you listed the
characters that I play.
What you didn't list and whatyou don't know is that I
audition probably 60 or 70 timesa year and I might work once.
So that same energy is goinginto I have an audition right
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after you and I get off thiscall to play a fire chief.
I'm going to step into thiswoman's life and really just
absorb her energy and try tounderstand the perspective that
she's coming with.
And it's an exercise, right,it's like going to the gym.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So how do you deal with rejection then?
I mean, if you're batting oneout of 60, I mean that's
probably would be something likemy stat right on the softball
field.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Again, that's a practice, that's staying in
gratitude for the opportunity Ilove.
A friend of mine told me thisstory.
He said he he ran into a friendat an audition and this friend
was a more working actor thanhim and and he kind of was
discouraged.
He walked in the room and he'slike you're here, like I'm not
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going to get this job.
What's the point?
You know, and we, we all getthere at a certain point and uh,
I said, well, what, what'swrong?
And he said that he's like well, you're here, what am I, what
am I even doing here?
He goes man, I don't know, butabout you, but for me this is
the only audition I've had allweek.
I get to be an actor today.
So I try to look at it likeevery opportunity is an
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opportunity for me to be anartist.
It doesn't pay me, but it paysme, so, um, I probably nurtured
your soul too that, yeah, itpays me here, it pays me here.
Um, so I think, if youunderstand that, and I think I
think for me, I just sort oftake the practice of, uh, when I
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win, I I win.
When I don't, there's anotheropportunity and I'm, yeah, I'm
grateful, I think, gratitudereally.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And I think that's a good reminder for people that
are just happening to go throughthose motions, right, whether
they're a middle-aged person,someone perhaps in their uh, you
know, those that are young atheart, or even just an
adolescent trying to know theirplace in the world yeah, and
again, I think I think beingopen and like I don't know what
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opportunities are going to turninto what I didn't know my one
episode of supernatural wouldtake me around the world, would
connect me with people.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You just you really don't know where it's going to
lead you, so I just always tryto stay open.
But I also do wish this was aconversation that we had, and I
speak about this publicly.
We all know firefighters haveother jobs.
Right, you can't sustain aliving as a firefighter.
There's a lot of downtime.
We all know teachers.
You know either enjoy familylife in the summer or take
something part-time in thesummer.
I wish that was a biggerconversation.
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Like just because you have totake another job doesn't mean
you're not successful.
There's all different ways.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That means you're struggling.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Part of it would be that's the implication, but it
it's not necessarily becausewe're multi-faceted people,
right?
So I, for example um, I start,I returned to the world of
modeling.
We went on strike a couple ofyears ago and I I had this, my
daughter's a model and and theagency she signed with asked me,
uh, to sign me, and I didn't.
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I didn't take it too much, Ijust thought, oh, whatever, if
something comes up, great, if itdoesn't, that's fine too.
And then when we went on strike, I said, well, I actually have
quite a bit of time.
I had just come off a show Iwas on Riverdale at the time and
we finished right when thestrike started and I was like,
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well, that in my M45.
But again, I just kind of said,sure, let's see.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And what is it?
45 is the new 25 or 25 is thenew 45?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
45 is the new 45.
I also really dislike thistrend that people are like I'm
45 and I look 25.
No, you don't, you look 45, butyou look great.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I feel very much my age.
I'm not ashamed of it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Embrace you.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I love it.
I'm getting to play charactersnow.
I couldn't play in my 20s.
I just ran to play Aphrodite,like, come on, like you need.
You need the weight of theworld to play that you know.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Is that the Greek goddess to love?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, like I get to play.
I get to play mothers.
I didn't play mothers for along time.
I've been a mom for 21 years.
I get to play these coolcharacters.
I also get to be talk aboutbullying we can have.
I think there's just so muchmore awareness.
I'm so grateful because therecan be this really nasty energy
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of the old, aging actress andthe young girls, and I always
look at these young girls like,wow, let me nurture you, Let me
show you what's possible.
Like it's never a competition,If anything.
I feel like I'm the matriarchon set and I get to be that
voice of like, comfort andreason.
You've got a contract question.
Let's talk about it.
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I've been there.
You know you shouldn't be, youshouldn't be doing it on your
own.
You should have mentors.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Does social media get in the way of learning or
technology in general?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Distraction gets in the way, I think, and you can
choose to be distracted.
I mean, we have more access now.
Like I said, I used to carry mybooks and FedEx my papers, and
now it's like you can doanything you want.
Now you can make movies, youcould be your own director, you
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could be your own Tarantino.
You got a phone, you got somecreative friends, or you can sit
and consume TikToks your choice.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, that's true, elena.
This has been incredible and,as we wrap up this podcast
episode, is there anything thatI missed, or anything perhaps
that you want to share to theworld about, perhaps, your
journey, any takeaways?
If perhaps you were to giveyourself your younger self some
advice, what would that be?
(26:23):
Or just wanted to open up toanything that you wanted to
share in your end final words?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Thank you.
I think if I were to, Iwouldn't change anything,
because that you know.
We are who we are because ofour experiences.
But if I were to give myyounger self advice, it would be
we have this, we have thissaying when you go into a
casting, a lot of times castingdirectors will say have fun.
And I never.
I never understood that when Iwas younger.
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I was like have fun, I'mserious, take me seriously.
And now I'm just like play.
Play in all things.
Play, you know.
Have karaoke in the car withyour kids.
Enjoy dinner like game nights.
Enjoy.
Life is meant to be enjoyed, soenjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Is that one of the takeaways from when you go to
these conferences and events andyou see all these crowds of
fans and do you ever get thatfeeling of man?
I get to do this for a livingand I get to make people smile.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, we sell joy.
I mean, it's a blessing.
It's a lot of times the fandomcomes to be together.
It's their community, it'stheir shared interest.
It's like going to a concert,it's like going to, you know, an
event of likeness, of sharedinterests, and so, um, you know,
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one thing that I've washappened is happening now in the
supernatural fandom that Iwould.
It used to experience in theStargate fandom and also
Smallville, a lot of families.
So we're getting like, um, withStargate it used to be like,
you know, uh, a family wouldcome up and the kids towering
over the parents and they'relike, you know, we started
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watching this on Friday nightsbecause we had a newborn and we
couldn't go out, and then itbecame like a family show and
you're part of their family andyou just kind of have that
shared experience and you get totalk to people and see how this
community has impacted theirlives.
So it's a blessing.
I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Is that one of the most pleasant surprises you've
had in this role of being anactor?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I had no idea.
I didn't know conventionsexisted, let alone that it could
be something that was lucrativeand that I participated in and
that it had so much meaning.
We do with Supernatural.
Like I said, we're veryphilanthropic.
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We do a lot of merch and itbenefits a lot of charities.
We were able to build anorphanage in Haiti, we built a
school in Nicaragua.
This is all the fans justparticipating and us
facilitating and yeah, it's justgood.
We're just.
I don't know.
It's just, it's good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's a component of kindness and empathy.
Community, yeah, yes, yes,like-minded individuals coming
together for a common purpose.
Yeah Well, elena, this has beenan absolute honor.
Thank you so kindly for comingon the podcast.
And citizens I like to call myfans citizens of your nation.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I love it.
What do we call you Gratitudegangster?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Sure, okay, I prefer guardians of gratitude, but
actually no, yeah, okay.
So now I'm on your train ofthought.
So there's two Gs in Yog Nation.
Again is the spelling of my, ofmy name.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Just in short yog, and then the extra g stands for
either gratitude or gangsta.
So okay, okay, okay, got it on.
I don't know if on your screenmy screen is like I am frozen in
, like a big laugh, which isperfect for then that's a great
way to end the segment.
Awesome, thank you so much forhaving me.
It was an honor and it's sogreat way to end the segment.
Love it Awesome.
Thank you so much for having me.
It was an honor and it's sogreat to talk to you, as always.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Thank you Likewise.
Bye for now.
Welcome to the Yoga Nation, the Spirit of Gratitude
podcast on the One Integrationplatform.
Hello friends, my name isYogesh Patel and this podcast
explores the themes of bullying,self-awareness and the power of
our inner spirit, including thesilent battles we all face.
Join me every week as I invitehigh-profile guests, as we
explore how adversity shapes us,how gratitude lifts us and how
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ourselves.
Join the conversation.
I appreciate you listening in.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Have you ever thought that playing a character on
stage or screen could actuallyhelp you discover more about
yourself?
My next guest does just thatfor a living the talented and
beautiful Canadian actress,Elena Huffman, known for
bringing unforgettablecharacters to life, from Black
Canary in Smallville to thefierce Abaddon in Supernatural
and the resilient TJ in StargateUniverse.
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Beyond the screen, Elena'sjourney through playing heroes,
villains and everything inbetween has given her a rare
perspective on strength,identity and self-awareness.
We'll explore how stepping intothese different roles has
shaped the way she understandsherself and how those lessons
can be applied to all of us.
With gratitude, welcome to thepodcast, Elena Hi.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Hi, I love that intro .
Thank you, I'm going to walkaround with that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
There you go, beautiful and talented you are
certainly.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thank you, it's so nice to be here with you.
Thank you for having me.
Absolutely.
You've got a new movie comingout.
Tell us about it.
Yes, waltzing with rando.
Um, it is a a great movie aboutmarlon rando, the late great
marlon rando, and his desire toum inhabit the island of tete
(01:56):
aroa in tahiti.
Um, so it takes place in tahitiin the 70s and and the thing
that I love about it, the reasonI signed on for it a couple of
reasons.
The main one was the nostalgialike to tell a story about such
a huge, iconic character likeMarlon Brando and to see it from
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his personal perspective, likehe recounts and we say it many
times in the movie like being intahiti and I can attest to this
is like is just existing andit's um I remember we had, we
have some I'm sorry, justexisting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
like there's no, uh, he often he referred to his
Oscars as doorstoppers, like sowhen he was in Tahiti he just
was.
He wasn't a movie star, hewasn't, you know, expected to do
anything, he just existed andwe had, we had several drivers
(02:58):
and things while we were there.
You know, getting us to andfrom and I remember really cool
perspective is like one of mydrivers was like how are you
enjoying the island?
And I was like it's great.
And they said you're so lucky,there's nothing to do here, you
can just be.
And then the other driver saidyou're so lucky, there's so much
to do here.
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And they meant the same thing.
It was like there's time to be,it's hiking and fishing and
napping and just existing andit's yeah.
So the story takes place ofBrando inhabiting this island
and so my character I play Dana,and I'm married to Bernard
(03:39):
Judge, who is played by JohnHeater, and he's an architect
who gets the infrastructuretogether, and so we camp on this
island for three years and eatcoconuts and crabs and
homeschool our daughter and, andit's all for this vision that
Brando had, which is now a veryexclusive hotel, the Brando, and
(04:02):
it's owned in part by LeonardoDiCaprio and it's an
environmental feat and he had,he had a big emphasis on the
environment even way back then.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Is that close to the Island of Morea?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, we actually shot it on Morea.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh, really Okay, I vacationed there.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, so see, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I can't stand that.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You like to be busy?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, I love my naps.
In fact, I chase tranquility,that calm, undisturbed mind
which is, I think, what not eventhe tropics, but any beach,
does for you, because I thinkthat the saltwater itself acts
as a natural healing mechanism,where it absorbs negativity.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, and anywhere you go, as you know, on the
island of morea is like it's notvery big and, um, it's just
majestic.
Also, we shot in the winterthere it was june, so it was
winter for them um, so the sunwent down at like 5 pm and, uh,
we stayed.
We stayed on this beautifulcoconut farm.
(05:02):
Oftentimes when I'm away doing amovie like's, it's a little
bittersweet because I I'm asingle mom of four kids, so I
have to like delegate and, youknow, figure out a system to
have my kids, cause they're allin school and stuff, and so I do
have systems in place.
I've got a great supportivefamily, um, so there's a little
anxiety along with that.
(05:22):
And then also I go from beinglike a full-time mom to just
working as an actor and it's alittle bit of a shift and it can
be kind of lonely to be onlocation, and so I really
enjoyed the process of like Ijust really went in, I started
to work.
I worked with a coach the wholesix weeks I was there and I did
a lot of like introspectivework.
(05:43):
Coach the whole six weeks I wasthere and I did a lot of like
introspective work and at 5 pm alot of times I'd take a shower,
I'd read a book and I'd go tobed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was beautiful and how do you actually choose your
characters?
I mean, is it the director, isit the script, is it the depth
of the of the characterthemselves?
How do you, as an actor, dothat?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's a version of all of the things.
I mean.
I think it was Michael Caine.
He said you know, an actortakes a job for a few reasons.
One, they really really lovethe script.
Two, they really love thecharacter.
Three, they have to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's not reverse order.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah Well, yeah, I mean we're self-employed, right,
and so a lot of times, like ifyou get an offer or an option
comes to you and you're notdoing anything and you might not
love the script.
I actually did a movie earlylast year.
Um, I thought about the middleof the movie I was like, was
(06:37):
this written on chat?
Gpt guys?
Like it did not have a lot ofcharacter depth and it was, and
you know that when it's likereally hard to get into the
character, but you know it, itpaid me and I was able to do the
job and feed my family.
So lots of different reasons,and sometimes you, you don't
know, I mean with, withSupernatural.
(06:57):
I had no idea that playing thischaracter would lead to 15
years of being on this worldtour with a fandom that's just
robust and amazing and embraciveand supportive and
philanthropic.
I mean it's amazing to be apart of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, you're very popular at Comic-Con.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, we're like on tour, like we're Mick
Jagger.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We're like on tour like a rock a mcjagger.
I'm sorry, we're like on tour,like like a rock star like the
stones, huh like exactly thesame got keith, richards and uh
and the entourage.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, take us, uh, take a step back, uh, for us.
Elena, how did you get in into,how did you get into acting and
how did you know that this wasyour chosen path?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
it literally just happened to me.
Um, I think I just, and I Ifeel this way about everything
in my life.
I just sort of allow and andthen sort of lean into what
feeds me.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I guess if I were to like really look at, I'm
sorry you you you mentionedallow, because, willie, what I
want to do is unpack that andbring and bring it to light
where perhaps a person that'slistening to the room, if
they're perhaps uncertain abouttheir career choice or what they
should do, especially forcollege graduates, you mentioned
(08:16):
allow, could you elaborate fromthat perspective?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I love to be in a space of.
The only way I can describe itis like a visual and that's just
literally like heart, openposture, like you would do in a
yoga class, at the top of yourmat, you know, you just
literally are a vessel and allow, I think, get out of your head
(08:41):
and get into your heart.
So I know, easier said thandone, but it's a practice, right
?
Anyone who meditates, anyonewho is, you know, studies the
word.
I mean it's a practice.
I'm a gym rat Like you.
Don't go to the gym and bench350, you build.
And so I think the process ofcreating and curating your life
(09:07):
as an artist is allowingopportunities to present
themselves and then pivoting,being available.
So I think you can study, Ithink you can have an idea of
what you want to do and I wouldsay, always be open to oh, it's
not what I thought, but it'swhat I felt and move towards the
(09:30):
feeling.
Um, so I don't know.
That's kind of the way it'salways happened for me.
So I started.
Ironically, my dad put my sisterand I in these speech classes.
I was about eight years old orso, and he's a business guy,
he's a, he's an engineer with adegree in business, and so he
(09:50):
was a high level executive inthe tech world and he wanted us
to have confidence.
He wanted us to to be able topublic speak, and I think his
dream would have been like I'dbe a scholar or something he
didn't know.
He turned me into an artist.
I can play one, and it was likethis quirky theater teacher in
(10:11):
the Stratford theater in Ontariowhich is very famous.
Bill Shatner came up throughthere and so I just I think that
was probably the origin of it.
It at least planted a seed, andthen I was scouted in a mall
several years later, when I was14.
Um, and as a model, and uh, Iwas living in Vancouver at the
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time, and that again I just sortof the scout approached me and
my mom at the mall, um, and Iwent in for the meeting, yeah,
and they said, oh, you'd be, I'ma model scout, I'm interested
in you know, seeing if, if you'dbe interested in modeling, and
so we went in for the meetingand I think, like a couple of
months later, I was in Tokyoworking as a model.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But you had to put yourself in that position,
though I mean maybe not you, butcertainly that fateful day
where you and your mom did go tothe mall.
So I think part of it is yes,you allow yourself to have these
experiences, but on the flipside, you need to put yourself
in those positions.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean that was literally likea stranger just kind of
approached us, but.
But yeah, I mean just justbeing being.
And then, and then I did thatfor years.
Um, all throughout high school,I homeschooled myself, I was a
model and, um, yeah, we didn't,we didn't have laptops, we
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didn't have email.
I would carry all my books andI'd FedEx my uh, my papers back
and get them FedExed back, andso I kind of had a system for
that.
And then, when I was 18, I wasliving in Germany and my parents
(11:57):
, my dad, got relocated to Texasand I was under 21, and so I
qualified for citizenship underhis visa and, um, this was pre
nine, 11.
Uh, and he worked for Motorola,so it was a huge company and
you know, the immigrationprocess was, you know, very
handled on our part.
(12:17):
Um, and uh, I was modeling alot in Texas and then New York,
and then my agency sat me downat one point and she said you
know, we're seeing more and moreactors on the covers of
magazines and less models.
We're going to open atheatrical division.
Do you have any interest?
And I was like I think so.
(12:38):
I did this thing when I was akid.
You know little theaterprograms and I just started
making movies and it just kindof again.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I just, I just said yes, wow.
Again, you allowed yourself tosay yes, and the proverbial let
the chips fall where they may,yeah, well, that leads me to my
next question.
I mean, every character you'veplayed, from Black Canary to
Abaddon, carries.
Carries a different type ofstrength.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Abaddon is the pronounced solution, just to
correct it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
yeah, Abaddon, thank you.
So again, you've played thesecharacters that had a different
type of strength, and whenyou've stepped into these roles,
how much of Elena sneaks in andhow much do they end up
teaching you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I always learn.
I'm always so incrediblygrateful for all of those
experiences.
And you know, I get asked a lotlike what, what's your favorite
character that you've played?
And my joke is it depends onyou know.
It's like it's like choosingyour favorite kid it depends on
the day.
Who's being a brat, who's youknow, um, but they're all very
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distinct times in my life and,um, a lot of that is the
influence of how I played them.
And so, um, TJ on on Stargate,she's probably one that's like
the most near and dear to myheart.
I think I learned so much fromher.
(14:12):
I didn't like her at first.
I thought she was annoying.
I thought she was a bit of acrybaby.
She would always cry.
She was like I had to surrenderto my vulnerability and that
(14:32):
was her superpower.
She expected to be honored andloved and she expected to be
supported and I kind of didn't.
I was more like muscle throughit, you know headstrong, and
she's a soldier, you know she's,she's trained to to fight and
she's also a medic.
But she still was like,empowered by her vulnerability,
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and I learned a lot from her.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And that's not necessarily a weakness, correct.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, no, that's her strength, that's her superpower
and I just learned so much fromher.
And it was also a veryinteresting time in my life
Personally.
I was pregnant on the show.
I got pregnant during the firstseason and I didn't mean to.
I actually probably should havegot divorced, to be honest, but
(15:27):
we made up and had a baby andthey wrote it in and it was a
really cool storyline for TJ.
But it was probably the bestyear of my marriage because we
had reconciled and then we endedup getting divorced a few years
later.
But that whole time frame in mylife was amazing and I credit
(15:49):
that to TJ's presence in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Fictional life helped with your non-fictional life.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I think there's always a part of you that's
going to be in your characters.
Abaddon is like the queen ofhell.
She's pure evil.
She has no humanity.
She's a lot of fun, but she'stremendously arrogant.
I mean she like to her owndetriment.
That's what took her out.
And I always say she, she was,she chose to be possessed.
(16:18):
Josie is her vessel, her humanvessel.
You gotta follow the lore.
Josie is her, her human vessel.
You gotta follow the lore um.
Josie is her, her human vessel.
And she chose um to bepossessed by Abaddon because she
felt it was an opportunity.
She's from the 60s and she feltit was an opportunity to sort
of break the glass ceiling.
As a woman, and I alwaysthought like the better story or
(16:42):
a more empowered storyline ifthey were to continue that
storyline after abaddon diedwould be to tell the story of
josie, because she's a human,she has human qualities and she
has desire and she has passionand she has strength, but she
also has vulnerability andempathy and um.
You know all the things abaddondid not have.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So, between your characters and you as a person,
elena, what would you say to aperson that is perhaps going
through a challenge in theirlife, that, whether they're
trying to overcome adversity orperhaps redefine strength
through gratitude, so how, whatwould you say to that person?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, I love what you're doing with gratitude,
because I think that is just theessence of function in your
daily life.
I'm a, you know I'm a.
I'm a believer in in God and Iread scripture and I I I feel
like there's more moments in myday that I'm in gratitude than
(17:41):
not.
I know I know the opposite ofof you know life that I live.
Um, I think sometimes whenwe're uncomfortable, we want to
escape it and I would justencourage um sitting sometimes
(18:02):
in the discomfort, not notgetting help.
But I don't know if we have todistract ourselves all the time.
Um, I know that this is like atrend.
People say like they're rawdogging their flight, like
they're not going to listen tomusic or watch movies.
I travel all over the world.
I never turned the TV on Um, ifanything, I'll have like
(18:22):
meditation, music and I just siton a 14 hour flight.
I think sometimes we need tosit and be um, which is what
Brando learned in uh in, uh inTahiti.
But um, no, I'm not sayingsuffer, I think there's, you
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know there's, there's.
There's a time where there's adifference.
There's a time when you need toget help.
There's a time when you do needto escape elements.
If it's a toxic family life orwork environment, I mean, there
are obviously definite reasonsto seek help and understand why
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you're uncomfortable or beingabused.
You know, we definitely don'twant to make excuse for abuse.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think there's also a similarity between your
profession of acting andgratitude.
I mean actors, and I got thisfrom ChatGBT around perspective
and empathy.
It says actors step into otherpeople's lives, seeing the world
through their eyes.
Gratitude works similarly.
It shifts the focus from what'smissing to what's meaningful,
(19:38):
helping people empathize withothers' struggles and triumphs.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I love that.
Yeah, I mean I love that.
Yeah, I mean I feel that it's,it's um, you know you listed the
characters that I play.
What you didn't list and whatyou don't know is that I
audition probably 60 or 70 timesa year and I might work once.
So that same energy is goinginto I have an audition right
(20:06):
after you and I get off thiscall to play a fire chief.
I'm going to step into thiswoman's life and really just
absorb her energy and try tounderstand the perspective that
she's coming with.
And it's an exercise, right,it's like going to the gym.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So how do you deal with rejection then?
I mean, if you're batting oneout of 60, I mean that's
probably would be something likemy stat right on the softball
field.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Again, that's a practice, that's staying in
gratitude for the opportunity Ilove.
A friend of mine told me thisstory.
He said he he ran into a friendat an audition and this friend
was a more working actor thanhim and and he kind of was
discouraged.
He walked in the room and he'slike you're here, like I'm not
(20:57):
going to get this job.
What's the point?
You know, and we, we all getthere at a certain point and uh,
I said, well, what, what'swrong?
And he said that he's like well, you're here, what am I, what
am I even doing here?
He goes man, I don't know, butabout you, but for me this is
the only audition I've had allweek.
I get to be an actor today.
So I try to look at it likeevery opportunity is an
(21:20):
opportunity for me to be anartist.
It doesn't pay me, but it paysme, so, um, I probably nurtured
your soul too that, yeah, itpays me here, it pays me here.
Um, so I think, if youunderstand that, and I think I
think for me, I just sort oftake the practice of, uh, when I
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win, I I win.
When I don't, there's anotheropportunity and I'm, yeah, I'm
grateful, I think, gratitudereally.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And I think that's a good reminder for people that
are just happening to go throughthose motions, right, whether
they're a middle-aged person,someone perhaps in their uh, you
know, those that are young atheart, or even just an
adolescent trying to know theirplace in the world yeah, and
again, I think I think beingopen and like I don't know what
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opportunities are going to turninto what I didn't know my one
episode of supernatural wouldtake me around the world, would
connect me with people.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You just you really don't know where it's going to
lead you, so I just always tryto stay open.
But I also do wish this was aconversation that we had, and I
speak about this publicly.
We all know firefighters haveother jobs.
Right, you can't sustain aliving as a firefighter.
There's a lot of downtime.
We all know teachers.
You know either enjoy familylife in the summer or take
something part-time in thesummer.
I wish that was a biggerconversation.
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Like just because you have totake another job doesn't mean
you're not successful.
There's all different ways.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That means you're struggling.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Part of it would be that's the implication, but it
it's not necessarily becausewe're multi-faceted people,
right?
So I, for example um, I start,I returned to the world of
modeling.
We went on strike a couple ofyears ago and I I had this, my
daughter's a model and and theagency she signed with asked me,
uh, to sign me, and I didn't.
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I didn't take it too much, Ijust thought, oh, whatever, if
something comes up, great, if itdoesn't, that's fine too.
And then when we went on strike, I said, well, I actually have
quite a bit of time.
I had just come off a show Iwas on Riverdale at the time and
we finished right when thestrike started and I was like,
(23:47):
well, that in my M45.
But again, I just kind of said,sure, let's see.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And what is it?
45 is the new 25 or 25 is thenew 45?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
45 is the new 45.
I also really dislike thistrend that people are like I'm
45 and I look 25.
No, you don't, you look 45, butyou look great.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I feel very much my age.
I'm not ashamed of it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Embrace you.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I love it.
I'm getting to play charactersnow.
I couldn't play in my 20s.
I just ran to play Aphrodite,like, come on, like you need.
You need the weight of theworld to play that you know.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Is that the Greek goddess to love?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, like I get to play.
I get to play mothers.
I didn't play mothers for along time.
I've been a mom for 21 years.
I get to play these coolcharacters.
I also get to be talk aboutbullying we can have.
I think there's just so muchmore awareness.
I'm so grateful because therecan be this really nasty energy
(24:57):
of the old, aging actress andthe young girls, and I always
look at these young girls like,wow, let me nurture you, Let me
show you what's possible.
Like it's never a competition,If anything.
I feel like I'm the matriarchon set and I get to be that
voice of like, comfort andreason.
You've got a contract question.
Let's talk about it.
(25:17):
I've been there.
You know you shouldn't be, youshouldn't be doing it on your
own.
You should have mentors.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Does social media get in the way of learning or
technology in general?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Distraction gets in the way, I think, and you can
choose to be distracted.
I mean, we have more access now.
Like I said, I used to carry mybooks and FedEx my papers, and
now it's like you can doanything you want.
Now you can make movies, youcould be your own director, you
(25:51):
could be your own Tarantino.
You got a phone, you got somecreative friends, or you can sit
and consume TikToks your choice.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, that's true, elena.
This has been incredible and,as we wrap up this podcast
episode, is there anything thatI missed, or anything perhaps
that you want to share to theworld about, perhaps, your
journey, any takeaways?
If perhaps you were to giveyourself your younger self some
advice, what would that be?
(26:23):
Or just wanted to open up toanything that you wanted to
share in your end final words?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Thank you.
I think if I were to, Iwouldn't change anything,
because that you know.
We are who we are because ofour experiences.
But if I were to give myyounger self advice, it would be
we have this, we have thissaying when you go into a
casting, a lot of times castingdirectors will say have fun.
And I never.
I never understood that when Iwas younger.
(26:49):
I was like have fun, I'mserious, take me seriously.
And now I'm just like play.
Play in all things.
Play, you know.
Have karaoke in the car withyour kids.
Enjoy dinner like game nights.
Enjoy.
Life is meant to be enjoyed, soenjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Is that one of the takeaways from when you go to
these conferences and events andyou see all these crowds of
fans and do you ever get thatfeeling of man?
I get to do this for a livingand I get to make people smile.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, we sell joy.
I mean, it's a blessing.
It's a lot of times the fandomcomes to be together.
It's their community, it'stheir shared interest.
It's like going to a concert,it's like going to, you know, an
event of likeness, of sharedinterests, and so, um, you know,
(27:48):
one thing that I've washappened is happening now in the
supernatural fandom that Iwould.
It used to experience in theStargate fandom and also
Smallville, a lot of families.
So we're getting like, um, withStargate it used to be like,
you know, uh, a family wouldcome up and the kids towering
over the parents and they'relike, you know, we started
(28:09):
watching this on Friday nightsbecause we had a newborn and we
couldn't go out, and then itbecame like a family show and
you're part of their family andyou just kind of have that
shared experience and you get totalk to people and see how this
community has impacted theirlives.
So it's a blessing.
I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Is that one of the most pleasant surprises you've
had in this role of being anactor?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I had no idea.
I didn't know conventionsexisted, let alone that it could
be something that was lucrativeand that I participated in and
that it had so much meaning.
We do with Supernatural.
Like I said, we're veryphilanthropic.
(28:53):
We do a lot of merch and itbenefits a lot of charities.
We were able to build anorphanage in Haiti, we built a
school in Nicaragua.
This is all the fans justparticipating and us
facilitating and yeah, it's justgood.
We're just.
I don't know.
It's just, it's good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's a component of kindness and empathy.
Community, yeah, yes, yes,like-minded individuals coming
together for a common purpose.
Yeah Well, elena, this has beenan absolute honor.
Thank you so kindly for comingon the podcast.
And citizens I like to call myfans citizens of your nation.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I love it.
What do we call you Gratitudegangster?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Sure, okay, I prefer guardians of gratitude, but
actually no, yeah, okay.
So now I'm on your train ofthought.
So there's two Gs in Yog Nation.
Again is the spelling of my, ofmy name.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Just in short yog, and then the extra g stands for
either gratitude or gangsta.
So okay, okay, okay, got it on.
I don't know if on your screenmy screen is like I am frozen in
, like a big laugh, which isperfect for then that's a great
way to end the segment.
Awesome, thank you so much forhaving me.
It was an honor and it's sogreat way to end the segment.
Love it Awesome.
Thank you so much for having me.
It was an honor and it's sogreat to talk to you, as always.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Thank you Likewise.
Bye for now.
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