March 21, 2024 • 29 mins
What does it really mean to navigate the complexities of illegal immigration, and how does it ripple through the fabric of American life? We grapple with these questions, considering the impacts on public safety, job markets, and the economy. The stories shared reveal the human side of immigration, from the struggle for a new life to the shadow of undocumented work. This episode is not just a discussion but a journey through the intricacies of a nation grappling with its identity amidst the global movement of people. Join us as we dissect the multifaceted issue of immigration and its far-reaching effects on every American, from policy to personal experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to another episode of the you Are
Not Alone podcast.
My name is Debbie Gold and I'mhere with my co-host and son,
greg, and we are so glad thatyou're here with us.
Each week on this show, we willtalk about informative issues,
issues that will make you thinkand help you grow.
It is our wish that you willfind hope, encouragement and a
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little bit of Jesus in everyepisode.
Hey y'all, and welcome back.
Today we are going to betalking about the border crisis.
So much going on with that thesedays.
And do you know, greg, that 8in 10 US Americans say the
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government is doing a very bador somewhat bad job dealing with
the large number of immigrantscoming into the United States?
That's 80%.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Do you realize that Doesn't surprise me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So make sure to stick around everyone, because by the
end of our show, you will havelots of information that will
help you decide where you standon one of the most hottest
topics of today, and that's theborder crisis or illegal
immigration.
So back in.
So I want to just follow thatup with.
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In November and I don't know ifour listeners are aware or not,
because we do focus on the GenZ age group but in November of
this year, in 2024, that's goingto be our next presidential
election and our next presidentwill be elected, and that's less
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than eight months away, myfriends.
So two of the most importantissues to Americans right now
are economy and illegalimmigration.
So big year coming up forvoting.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Very important.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And that's why we're doing this episode is to help
educate you and inform and getyou to start thinking about the
stuff because it's coming downthe line.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, and it's important.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So in a leave, let's define illegal immigrant and
then we're going to talk aboutsome facts, and then we're going
to talk about the problems thatwe're facing today as a country
because of what is going onwith our border.
So an illegal immigrant issomeone who enters the US
without inspection or has cometo the US with a valid visa that
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has now expired.
So like it could be a studentthat came across with a visa and
they didn't actually take thecourse course that they were
going to take and then they'rethey get expired or they get
that's no longer valid.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Or someone comes with a visa but they don't do what
they have to do to keep it up orsomeone comes with nothing at
all, or someone comes withnothing at all, which is a lot
of what's going on today.
So just some facts about this ina little history.
Back in January of 2017.
Our president then, presidentTrump he signed executive order
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and executive order with thepurpose of ensuring public
safety within the borders of theUS and specifically, his intent
was to secure the borders, likewith a wall, and to improve
immigration enforcement.
So you know his intentions weregood and he really actually
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took action on that.
You know, he started buildingthe wall and he put things in
place for immigrationcheckpoints yeah checkpoints and
enforcing all that so that andthen that was all halted in
January or on January 20, 2021.
What happened on that day,january 20 as 2021.
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?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, Biden took office.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, biden took office exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Didn't.
That day he did 94 executiveactions, or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He did the border.
Yeah, well, he did a lot ofexecutive actions, which is
typical to be fair.
Presidents do that because theywant.
They want it to roll their way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But he reversed exactly what Trump was doing,
like I'm almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, so exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So let me read a release from the White House.
On that particular day, january20, 2021, president Biden sends
immigration bill to Congress aspart of his commitment to
modernize our immigration system.
And it goes on to say the USCitizen Act of 2021 establishes
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a new system to responsiblymanage and secure our border,
keep our families and ourcommunities safe, and to better
manage migration across thehemisphere.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't feel like he's done a good job of that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I mean, those intentions sound.
They sound good, right Rightright Because he wants to
provide pathways to citizenship.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I mean with law.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And he wants to.
I get that.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
With politicians, you can talk to talk, but you got
to walk to walk, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Of course, but what he was saying you know.
I want people to come into ourcountry.
Great, I agree with that.
We want to prioritize what hesaid.
The second thing was prioritizesmart border controls.
So he wanted to like up the youknow how things work better
electronically.
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Be smart, you know, what do youcall that?
You know what I'm talking about.
Just better technology formanaging the borders and then
address root causes of migration.
Why are people wanting to comehere?
We know it's a better worldhere, or better it's better
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people want to come to theUnited States.
So what are the problems athome and how can we maybe
effectively fix that or helpwith that?
So I think those were hisintentions or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, and that's what he said I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, and that sounded really well and really
good.
However, I think there was noexecution or lack of execution
is probably what I feel as acitizen and watching everything
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's been neglected terribly.
I got to say yeah.
So I mean illegal immigrationis not new now, so it's been
going on for years, but itstarted increasing of March 2021
.
And 2023.
It ended with the highestmigrant encounter on record,
reaching Holy cow 249,735 peoplea month at the US Mexico border
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in Eagle Pass.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yes, that was at the end.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's the end, yeah 2023.
Yeah, so the breakdown withthat would be unoccupied minors,
which is either 5% of thepopulation or 12,456 unoccupied
minors.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, let's stop.
I want to think about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's half as a mother, that's half an MBA
stadium full of kids.
Yes, for context.
For coming across every monthHalf an NFL stadium yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Every month.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't occupy them so yeah, they don't know where
to go, they don't trust, theydon't know what's gonna happen.
I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
How scary is that.
Yeah, I don't care if you'refive.
Yeah, that's where three, or asister that's eight carrying a
sibling that's Two or three, orif you're 14 or 15, that is
scary and if you're a girl too,that's very scary.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, you don't know who you're gonna meet there.
You don't know who you're gonnasee, what you're gonna go
through or along the way, yeah.
Yeah, it's terrifying to thinkabout.
And then families 41% or ahundred one thousand seven
hundred ten families.
That is a lot of families, andyou know, not everyone makes it
too so mm-hmm.
Some family members pass awayon the journey or they drown,
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you know they drown, come youknow.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We're, we're.
Texas right yeah they're comingacross the Rio Grande.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And people drown, drowned.
Yeah, texas DPS, they likeflush out body, sometimes from
the Rio Grande, because of allthese people coming through.
Yeah it's bad.
And then single adults make it.
This is the highest percentagescary 54%, or 135 thousand five
hundred sixty nine single adultscoming over.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So these are the numbers at the end of 2023,
folks, which is not so far awaythat makes 249 735,000 people a
month.
Yeah, in December that we'recoming into our country.
Mm-hmm or will across the USMexico border, basically into
Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I have to say.
In one year, if we keep thatnumber, you're good, yeah, so if
we keep up with that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
If we keep up with that number, in one year the
amount of migrants that willcome into the US border 2,996
and 820,000 migrants.
In a year we already have 2million, oh, almost 3 million
290.
Yes, about 3 million yeah.
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Oh wow, we already have our ownproblems here, ladies and
gentlemen.
We already have our ownproblems here.
So that is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And keep listening because we are gonna talk.
What are those people doing?
Yeah who's supporting thosepeople, and yeah, so there's.
There's a lot more here, right?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So yeah, president, biden's policies may have like
seem well-intended like you weresaying it like it sounded good
at the start, yeah, but clearlythe execution and putting plans
in place, it's not it's notworking at all.
And what are the problems thatthese migrants are facing?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, coming over here on the journey, yeah,
we're just facing right andwe've identified six, and, and
there could be more, and this isjust what you and I see
together.
This isn't like a smallbreakdown, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, so I mean people are dying on the trip.
Water, lack of water, lack offood, people are Exhausted they
don't have the right clothing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, troubles yeah where are the people coming from
?
Should we talk about that?
That's another big issue.
Oh so they, they start, youknow we think Mexico, but no,
that's a star, they come fromMexico, but a lot of countries
have gone.
Oh, we want to go to yeah, it'suh.
There's Honduras.
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Well, so below Mexico, we'vegot the, the northern triangle,
which is the Honduras, we've gotGuatemala and then Elvis, el
Salvador.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We also got Haiti, we got Nicaragua, we got Venezuela
.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We have Cuba and China, china's another big China
is actually huge right now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's a lot of Chinese middle-aged males,
military-aged males, coming overthe border and that's very
alarming.
So but yeah, we have.
I mean, a lot of these peopleare coming from third-world
countries and they don't havethe best education over there,
right, and so when they'recoming over here they don't know
what to do.
Let's say I Mean.
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Let's say you get, I mean yousnake bites that can kill you on
the trip over here, drowning.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean there's so many people don't know how to
swim.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, that too.
Yeah, I've seen that on thenews.
That is so true, a good point.
Yeah, you fall in the realgrand and you, just you start
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You start drowning.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You have a backpack on with like all your clothes
and stuff.
You can't get backpack on, youstart drowning.
So I mean so it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
What it I think?
What I'm hearing and Is youknow, people, they're not
prepared For this trip.
They see the end goal.
Which an end goal?
This goal is amazing, but youhave got to prepare.
Yes, you've got to be preparedto make that journey and and
it's really dangerous overall.
I think it's very dangerous andand I don't feel that they
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should be encouraged to comeunder those circumstances but,
that.
I guess that's an opinion onmine.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, like we already said, miners travel alone.
I mean 5% out of that, you know, 200,000 a month or whatever.
I mean there's so many Risks ofwhat could happen, what could
go wrong, um women getting rapedon the way.
Yeah, I mean you.
You could get grabbed by someguys and you know, you could,
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you know, get into a traffickingring without you Even knowing
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So you know you hear a lot about the cartels doing
that or that and they have.
I don't want to go there, butbut then there could be you know
, other just men along thejourney that take advantage of
women.
It's just not a safe thing todo very dangerous.
So and children being sextrafficked like that too yeah.
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You know, I don't even know howthat all works, I just know the
, the, the gangs and all of thatare.
They just really take advantage.
They don't care about anybodybut themselves and making a
dollar.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's organized crime.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So mm-hmm.
Yeah and then we've talkedabout drugs being smuggled in.
We talk.
We've had two yeah episodes onfentanyl, the latest being
fentanyl coming across theborder border and being mixed
with tranq, which is the horsetranquilizer.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, most people want to say, oh, fentanyl isn't
really coming over this otherborder.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I'm doing ignore.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Ignore your feelings.
Look at the facts.
It is happening in recordnumbers.
These people aren't beingchecked at the border.
You know the people that youknow run from the, the state
troopers or DPS or the, theRangers or whatever.
They might have drugs on them.
You know they have ways ofgetting these drugs into, you
know, america or whatever theydo, because their drug smugglers
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.
That's their job, so they'vegotten good at it.
So, they could put in tires,backpacks, anything, so you know
with how potent fentanyl it is.
I Mean just that much.
That could kill 200,000 people.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It doesn't, yeah, it doesn't take much to be lethal
yeah.
And I'm sure, but at this pointa lot of our listeners have
heard the stories of the momsyou know crying.
They lost their child tofentanyl.
They weren't a drug taker and adrug user, but they just did
this one time because they werestressed out about a test and
they got something online andyou know, the whole thing just
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Took their lives and it changedthe world of not only the child
but the family and now and thefriends and everyone around them
.
Oh it's these decisions don'taffect just one person.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's a tsunami of changes and yeah effects that I
can have.
So, yeah, those stories areheartbreaking to hear yeah, they
are they for sure.
And the mob.
Sometimes they get angrybecause this is preventable.
This could be preventable.
I mean, we could use a lot ofthe money that we're, you know,
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giving on migrants and all thatand you know use For drug
programs, for education aboutfentanyl and you know one pill
kills and all that.
I mean our Texas governor, regAbbot.
He signed a bill one pill killswhere it was um fentanyl
dealers.
Now they're being charged withLike poisoning or something
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which is like attempted murder,basically.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, they're gonna be charged with like attempted
murder charges if they getcaught.
So yeah.
Yeah, they're upping thepunishment for that, so that's
good.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I have to say I'm really proud of our governor.
I mean, we are a border state,so we are hugely impacted by
this issue.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He's held his ground.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He has.
He doesn't feel supported.
He feels like he's.
He's got immigration orimmigrants coming in and
overtaking and we don't knowwhere to take it.
He's the one that started.
Let's put the, put them onbuses and send them to.
New York or Chicago or whereveryou know he's like we gotta do
something, um.
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So I hope you guys canappreciate if you're not from
Texas, which I know a lot of ourlisteners aren't, and if you're
not from a border state, thatyou can appreciate the dire
situation situation and having agovernor that's really taking
some action on trying to make itdifferent and to help protect
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us as citizens in our state, andso, um, we're, you know, pretty
proud of him for all theactions.
And what's the latest you wantto talk about?
That this is so big with the USSupreme Court oh yeah,
yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So the Supreme Court overruled um it was uh here we
go they the Texas didn't have.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We were.
Our hands were tied.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We didn't have the ability to to enforce the laws
that we have in place, which ispretty stupid.
So we're allowed to enforce SPfor allowing state police to
arrest and deport illegal aliensyeah seven of the nine justices
sided with Texas over the bodyadministration.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So so basically we have now we have the control to
arrest someone.
That's um entered our countryillegally right and they can
arrest them, they can detainthem or they can deport them so
simplified down.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We can arrest someone who now breaks the law, correct
?
Yes, basically yes how did weget to this?
I know right, this is so out ofhand.
How do we?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
have to have the Supreme Court say it's okay to
do that it's okay to to arrest.
It's in arrest and enforce yeahthe law.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You know that's in the constitution.
You know you break the law.
You know usually you go to jail, you get arrested, some side of
the punishment.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But these guys, yeah, don't worry about them yeah, so
it like it applies to us here,like us citizens, but it doesn't
apply to people that come intothe country illegally yeah and
that's just not right.
Okay, I don't care, whatever no, it's not right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So anyway, it's not a political thing at this point.
No, it's really just ahumanitarian issue it is.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It's a moral and humanitarian issue.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, so um it's much bigger than that, yeah and so
the other problem too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
With what we were talking about, we ended up with
drugs, but the other iscriminals being allowed in.
And so what's our latest?
What not latest?
I'm sure it's not the latest,but do you want to talk about
Lake and Riley?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm sure some of you know about her and what happened
to her yeah, she was a 22 yearold college student, lake and
Riley.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
She was murdered by an illegal alien who crossed the
border under biden um this guybasically, yeah, let me see yeah
, she was a university ofGeorgia nursing student.
I'm sorry, but on a jog she wason a jog and he came up to her
and just started beating her todeath and just figured her
school and she was 22 years oldand this guy was from Venezuela
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and he was arrested earlier in2023 on a sex crime against a
minor and the judge let him backout somehow and didn't do
anything.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Didn't do anything, so we let this guy we let this
guy back out on our streets.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And now a mother is grieving her young daughter, who
was a nursing student and againit goes back to.
Kayla Hamilton is another girlthat was killed by an illegal
immigrant, and Elizabeth Modenawas another girl.
I was killed by an immigrant.
She was a high schooler, soit's just going up you have so
much passion behind this, I cantell it's no, it's ridiculous
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because I mean, we're putting somuch money into these people
and they're I mean, what aboutthat?
Four NYPD officers that werebrutally attacked in the street
um.
Last week another cop wasattacked by a machete in Times
Square yeah, machete, yeah umand and it's scary, it's very
scary, and and we have thirdworld criminals coming over here
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and acting like criminals anddoing third world activities and
they're, they're being.
There's no consequence, there'sno consequence they get let out
on bond or whatever and thenthey just go back to their hotel
.
I mean, they're getting cellphones, they're getting, you
know, hotel rooms and stuff.
Meanwhile we have a veteran uhcrisis in our country.
We still have a shitload ofhomeless people in our country.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's we're giving money all the wrong issues, so
it sucks right, um, so you knowI kind of want to just wrap this
up Greg um was doing someresearch and I know immigrant,
or you know people coming intothis country has been going on
for years and years and yearsand that's how we've become our
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country the melting pot right,you're an immigrant, probably,
right.
Greg, you're an immigrant.
Um Well, let's explain that.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, no, he said that.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So we always like to share a little bit of our lives
and our you know, our lives andour things that are going on in
our podcast.
But yeah, holy cow.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I am an immigrant, you are an immigrant, that's
cool.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So we adopted Greg from Russia when he was a baby
in 2003.
So, but we had, you know, toput it in perspective, we jumped
through hoops and did so muchpaperwork and we paid money and
we did all these things to getGreg.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The right way.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The right way.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Not to mention the travel fees and like how long
were those flights?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh, it was 24 hours.
Oh my gosh.
We had two trips, but the wholeadoption process was I'm just
going to throw the number outbecause I want you to realize it
was $40,000 from agency fees tofees that we gave to Russia,
money we gave to Russia for youand it was a whole process.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It was a whole process.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
A lovely process.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But a stressful process, stressful.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But we did it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The right way.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Because we did it the right way and we didn't think
of doing it.
We weren't going to go overthere and, like, steal a baby,
you know, or do somethingillegal.
We just thought we were doingit the right way.
But so good example.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Right you just do it the right way, and it can even
continue to, even after I was inthe United States.
Right, that way I was acomplete US citizen.
That way I didn't have like theRussia in the US.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We readopted you in the state of Texas so that you
would have a Texas birthcertificate.
There we go yeah, so that youwouldn't have a Russian birth
certificate, so that when youhad to go to college or you
applied for a driver's license,there would be no question about
your validity.
So we even did that after thefact we paid a little more extra
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money.
We met with an attorney in SanAntonio and it was a big
celebration day and we had thejudge at the court and we had
pictures you might remember.
You were sitting on the lap ofthe judge and you had the gavel.
What did they call it?
Gavel?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The gavel yeah.
And you got to bang it on thething.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, you were probably five or six, I think I
might.
Yeah, we got to that point torevalid, just to you already are
.
We just wanted you to have thepaperwork to show it here in the
US.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
There we go yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But you know.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You would go through.
I went back to get me.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
We did.
Yeah, it worth it.
Worth every penny in everysecond.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So immigration's always been yeah, like you were
saying, though yeah, it's fineto do it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I want people to come here, I want them to have the
goodness of this, but do it theright way.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And we need our leaders to set that up for
people.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
When we interviewed she was like come in the front
door, don't come in through mywindows or my back door.
Yes, Thank you yeah come in theright way.
So yeah, and like, present tous that you're willing to work,
you're willing to make somethingout of nothing.
And you're a hard worker andyou have values.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Because don't we do that as Americans?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We try.
Yeah, I mean we have values.
We have to provide forourselves.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
We show that we're going to make something out of
nothing.
You're a college student rightnow.
You are going to make somethingout of nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're determined, you're a hard worker and that is
how you've been brought up.
You're going to becomesomething that you want to
become and provide.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But if we show people that they can just be dependent
on the taxpayer and all thosecoming in, that's no motivation
to do anything besides layaround and steal, and I mean
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.
So it kind of reminds me ofwell, you know, I'm thinking
about this whole thing.
So what's important to me, andthis is what I want our
listeners to think about, whatdo you think about this issue?
We're trying to educate you.
I'm not saying close it off,but anyways, I want, I am
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concerned about our publicsafety in this day and age.
You know what would happen.
We're letting criminals in here, we're letting drugs in here,
and that's not safe for ourpeople.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
They caught a suspected terrorist four days
ago at the border, so that'sgood.
Yeah, they caught him at least.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But what about the ones that weren't caught?
You know, what about the onesthat are blending into all these
other immigrants actuallycoming here for a better life or
something, right?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So but you know, there's also things like, like I
said, those are kind ofimportant to me.
You know, I don't want disease.
I don't want people coming overbringing COVID or some other
disease that we don't even havehere.
I think there should be somecontrols around that.
But there's also things likeyou know, how are these people
going to support themselves whenthey get here?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
How are we going to support these people?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, but that's the thing, yes, that's what it boils
down to, because when you comeinto our country, you have to be
legal.
And when you get a job, there'semployers can't hire you unless
you have proper documentationthat you are a legal citizen.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And it's an I-9 that you have to prove, you have to
show I have an ID or I have avalid passport, or you know the
I9 form is used to verify theidentity, the identity and the
employment authorization ofindividuals hired for employment
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So it's basically you know, showing that you're a US
citizen or you know you'reauthorized to work in the US,
right?
So if you're an illegalimmigrant, how are you going to
work like that?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, employers can't hire you, so what is that
telling me?
So people are coming here,they're working for cash, or
they're getting aid from thegovernment, or they're getting a
place to stay at a hotel orthey're working black market
jobs or weird jobs, or you know.
Right, and so that none of thatis safe, or it's, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What about all these other people that are coming
over here and getting jobs andtaking the money away from the
actual Americans that are out ofjobs?
Because we know there are a lotof people out of jobs right now
, right?
Who's going to fill thosepositions with jobs that nobody
wants?
So I mean, let's say, in twoyears, right?
We have four million pluspeople that came into the border
since 2024.
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It's now 2026.
If we have a four millionpopulation increase, what are
those four million people aregoing to do for a living?
You know, yeah, and we alreadyhave people out of jobs right
now that are trying to find work, that are, you know, just
trying to make a living forthemselves.
I mean it's going to boil downto an ugly situation, so, and
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they're trying to give morerights to illegals than well,
americans have, frankly, rightnow.
I mean, in Illinois the otherday a judge passed that illegals
can carry firearms.
How does that make sense?
To buy a firearm, you have todo a full background check, you
have to scan your ID, you haveto prove that you're not, you
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know, a felon, all that.
You have to pass a gun safetyownership thing.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sure like we do.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah Right, it's a complicated process, just like
adoption, so it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, it's just.
It doesn't make sense aboutfollowing rules and and how are
you know why are some peopleexempt from those rules?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right, and why do we have to follow them?
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Right.
So, so I think we need to wrapup.
We've gone over our usual time,but it's been a really awesome
conversation and it's a reallyimportant topic, and so we would
like to ask you all to thinkabout.
You know how you feel aboutimmigration.
You know, based on what we'vesaid, do some more research on
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your own and then, mostimportantly, or even more
equally important it's all good,it's all equal Register to vote
for this next upcomingpresidential election, which is
happening in November.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Don't vote online.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I would just go to the get your register and
then you just go.
They'll show your ID and you'regood to go.
Yeah, but it's important, andget going on the current topics
and what's going on with thepresidential race.
It's really important.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And also do your own research.
Don't go to sites like Fox Newsor CNN, where they just pet old
people with bias against theother time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, you can, but you get a watch.
You could watch both.
You can watch both too.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
but you know, do some independent journalism, look it
up for yourself.
What really happened inIllinois, you know?
Look up the article and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, get out there and vote, vote, vote because
it's important.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yes, all right.
Well, we appreciate you alllistening in and hope we were
able to inform you all, yeahinform you all at least some
impressions, and we will be backsoon again.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, all right, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All right, take care, see you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And remember you are not alone.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the you Are
Not Alone podcast.
My name is Debbie Gold and I'mhere with my co-host and son,
greg, and we are so glad thatyou're here with us.
Each week on this show, we willtalk about informative issues,
issues that will make you thinkand help you grow.
It is our wish that you willfind hope, encouragement and a
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little bit of Jesus in everyepisode.
Hey y'all, and welcome back.
Today we are going to betalking about the border crisis.
So much going on with that thesedays.
And do you know, greg, that 8in 10 US Americans say the
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government is doing a very bador somewhat bad job dealing with
the large number of immigrantscoming into the United States?
That's 80%.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Do you realize that Doesn't surprise me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So make sure to stick around everyone, because by the
end of our show, you will havelots of information that will
help you decide where you standon one of the most hottest
topics of today, and that's theborder crisis or illegal
immigration.
So back in.
So I want to just follow thatup with.
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In November and I don't know ifour listeners are aware or not,
because we do focus on the GenZ age group but in November of
this year, in 2024, that's goingto be our next presidential
election and our next presidentwill be elected, and that's less
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than eight months away, myfriends.
So two of the most importantissues to Americans right now
are economy and illegalimmigration.
So big year coming up forvoting.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Very important.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And that's why we're doing this episode is to help
educate you and inform and getyou to start thinking about the
stuff because it's coming downthe line.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, and it's important.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So in a leave, let's define illegal immigrant and
then we're going to talk aboutsome facts, and then we're going
to talk about the problems thatwe're facing today as a country
because of what is going onwith our border.
So an illegal immigrant issomeone who enters the US
without inspection or has cometo the US with a valid visa that
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has now expired.
So like it could be a studentthat came across with a visa and
they didn't actually take thecourse course that they were
going to take and then they'rethey get expired or they get
that's no longer valid.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Or someone comes with a visa but they don't do what
they have to do to keep it up orsomeone comes with nothing at
all, or someone comes withnothing at all, which is a lot
of what's going on today.
So just some facts about this ina little history.
Back in January of 2017.
Our president then, presidentTrump he signed executive order
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and executive order with thepurpose of ensuring public
safety within the borders of theUS and specifically, his intent
was to secure the borders, likewith a wall, and to improve
immigration enforcement.
So you know his intentions weregood and he really actually
(03:39):
took action on that.
You know, he started buildingthe wall and he put things in
place for immigrationcheckpoints yeah checkpoints and
enforcing all that so that andthen that was all halted in
January or on January 20, 2021.
What happened on that day,january 20 as 2021.
(04:00):
?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, Biden took office.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, biden took office exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Didn't.
That day he did 94 executiveactions, or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He did the border.
Yeah, well, he did a lot ofexecutive actions, which is
typical to be fair.
Presidents do that because theywant.
They want it to roll their way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But he reversed exactly what Trump was doing,
like I'm almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, so exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So let me read a release from the White House.
On that particular day, january20, 2021, president Biden sends
immigration bill to Congress aspart of his commitment to
modernize our immigration system.
And it goes on to say the USCitizen Act of 2021 establishes
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a new system to responsiblymanage and secure our border,
keep our families and ourcommunities safe, and to better
manage migration across thehemisphere.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't feel like he's done a good job of that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I mean, those intentions sound.
They sound good, right Rightright Because he wants to
provide pathways to citizenship.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I mean with law.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And he wants to.
I get that.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
With politicians, you can talk to talk, but you got
to walk to walk, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Of course, but what he was saying you know.
I want people to come into ourcountry.
Great, I agree with that.
We want to prioritize what hesaid.
The second thing was prioritizesmart border controls.
So he wanted to like up the youknow how things work better
electronically.
(05:43):
Be smart, you know, what do youcall that?
You know what I'm talking about.
Just better technology formanaging the borders and then
address root causes of migration.
Why are people wanting to comehere?
We know it's a better worldhere, or better it's better
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people want to come to theUnited States.
So what are the problems athome and how can we maybe
effectively fix that or helpwith that?
So I think those were hisintentions or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, and that's what he said I was going to do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, and that sounded really well and really
good.
However, I think there was noexecution or lack of execution
is probably what I feel as acitizen and watching everything
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's been neglected terribly.
I got to say yeah.
So I mean illegal immigrationis not new now, so it's been
going on for years, but itstarted increasing of March 2021
.
And 2023.
It ended with the highestmigrant encounter on record,
reaching Holy cow 249,735 peoplea month at the US Mexico border
(06:56):
in Eagle Pass.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yes, that was at the end.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's the end, yeah 2023.
Yeah, so the breakdown withthat would be unoccupied minors,
which is either 5% of thepopulation or 12,456 unoccupied
minors.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, let's stop.
I want to think about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's half as a mother, that's half an MBA
stadium full of kids.
Yes, for context.
For coming across every monthHalf an NFL stadium yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Every month.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't occupy them so yeah, they don't know where
to go, they don't trust, theydon't know what's gonna happen.
I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
How scary is that.
Yeah, I don't care if you'refive.
Yeah, that's where three, or asister that's eight carrying a
sibling that's Two or three, orif you're 14 or 15, that is
scary and if you're a girl too,that's very scary.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, you don't know who you're gonna meet there.
You don't know who you're gonnasee, what you're gonna go
through or along the way, yeah.
Yeah, it's terrifying to thinkabout.
And then families 41% or ahundred one thousand seven
hundred ten families.
That is a lot of families, andyou know, not everyone makes it
too so mm-hmm.
Some family members pass awayon the journey or they drown,
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you know they drown, come youknow.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We're, we're.
Texas right yeah they're comingacross the Rio Grande.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And people drown, drowned.
Yeah, texas DPS, they likeflush out body, sometimes from
the Rio Grande, because of allthese people coming through.
Yeah it's bad.
And then single adults make it.
This is the highest percentagescary 54%, or 135 thousand five
hundred sixty nine single adultscoming over.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So these are the numbers at the end of 2023,
folks, which is not so far awaythat makes 249 735,000 people a
month.
Yeah, in December that we'recoming into our country.
Mm-hmm or will across the USMexico border, basically into
Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I have to say.
In one year, if we keep thatnumber, you're good, yeah, so if
we keep up with that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
If we keep up with that number, in one year the
amount of migrants that willcome into the US border 2,996
and 820,000 migrants.
In a year we already have 2million, oh, almost 3 million
290.
Yes, about 3 million yeah.
(09:28):
Oh wow, we already have our ownproblems here, ladies and
gentlemen.
We already have our ownproblems here.
So that is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And keep listening because we are gonna talk.
What are those people doing?
Yeah who's supporting thosepeople, and yeah, so there's.
There's a lot more here, right?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So yeah, president, biden's policies may have like
seem well-intended like you weresaying it like it sounded good
at the start, yeah, but clearlythe execution and putting plans
in place, it's not it's notworking at all.
And what are the problems thatthese migrants are facing?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, coming over here on the journey, yeah,
we're just facing right andwe've identified six, and, and
there could be more, and this isjust what you and I see
together.
This isn't like a smallbreakdown, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, so I mean people are dying on the trip.
Water, lack of water, lack offood, people are Exhausted they
don't have the right clothing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, troubles yeah where are the people coming from
?
Should we talk about that?
That's another big issue.
Oh so they, they start, youknow we think Mexico, but no,
that's a star, they come fromMexico, but a lot of countries
have gone.
Oh, we want to go to yeah, it'suh.
There's Honduras.
(10:48):
Well, so below Mexico, we'vegot the, the northern triangle,
which is the Honduras, we've gotGuatemala and then Elvis, el
Salvador.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We also got Haiti, we got Nicaragua, we got Venezuela
.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We have Cuba and China, china's another big China
is actually huge right now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
There's a lot of Chinese middle-aged males,
military-aged males, coming overthe border and that's very
alarming.
So but yeah, we have.
I mean, a lot of these peopleare coming from third-world
countries and they don't havethe best education over there,
right, and so when they'recoming over here they don't know
what to do.
Let's say I Mean.
(11:27):
Let's say you get, I mean yousnake bites that can kill you on
the trip over here, drowning.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean there's so many people don't know how to
swim.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, that too.
Yeah, I've seen that on thenews.
That is so true, a good point.
Yeah, you fall in the realgrand and you, just you start
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You start drowning.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You have a backpack on with like all your clothes
and stuff.
You can't get backpack on, youstart drowning.
So I mean so it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
What it I think?
What I'm hearing and Is youknow, people, they're not
prepared For this trip.
They see the end goal.
Which an end goal?
This goal is amazing, but youhave got to prepare.
Yes, you've got to be preparedto make that journey and and
it's really dangerous overall.
I think it's very dangerous andand I don't feel that they
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should be encouraged to comeunder those circumstances but,
that.
I guess that's an opinion onmine.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, like we already said, miners travel alone.
I mean 5% out of that, you know, 200,000 a month or whatever.
I mean there's so many Risks ofwhat could happen, what could
go wrong, um women getting rapedon the way.
Yeah, I mean you.
You could get grabbed by someguys and you know, you could,
(12:42):
you know, get into a traffickingring without you Even knowing
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So you know you hear a lot about the cartels doing
that or that and they have.
I don't want to go there, butbut then there could be you know
, other just men along thejourney that take advantage of
women.
It's just not a safe thing todo very dangerous.
So and children being sextrafficked like that too yeah.
(13:06):
You know, I don't even know howthat all works, I just know the
, the, the gangs and all of thatare.
They just really take advantage.
They don't care about anybodybut themselves and making a
dollar.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's organized crime.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So mm-hmm.
Yeah and then we've talkedabout drugs being smuggled in.
We talk.
We've had two yeah episodes onfentanyl, the latest being
fentanyl coming across theborder border and being mixed
with tranq, which is the horsetranquilizer.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, most people want to say, oh, fentanyl isn't
really coming over this otherborder.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I'm doing ignore.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Ignore your feelings.
Look at the facts.
It is happening in recordnumbers.
These people aren't beingchecked at the border.
You know the people that youknow run from the, the state
troopers or DPS or the, theRangers or whatever.
They might have drugs on them.
You know they have ways ofgetting these drugs into, you
know, america or whatever theydo, because their drug smugglers
(14:04):
.
That's their job, so they'vegotten good at it.
So, they could put in tires,backpacks, anything, so you know
with how potent fentanyl it is.
I Mean just that much.
That could kill 200,000 people.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It doesn't, yeah, it doesn't take much to be lethal
yeah.
And I'm sure, but at this pointa lot of our listeners have
heard the stories of the momsyou know crying.
They lost their child tofentanyl.
They weren't a drug taker and adrug user, but they just did
this one time because they werestressed out about a test and
they got something online andyou know, the whole thing just
(14:39):
Took their lives and it changedthe world of not only the child
but the family and now and thefriends and everyone around them
.
Oh it's these decisions don'taffect just one person.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's a tsunami of changes and yeah effects that I
can have.
So, yeah, those stories areheartbreaking to hear yeah, they
are they for sure.
And the mob.
Sometimes they get angrybecause this is preventable.
This could be preventable.
I mean, we could use a lot ofthe money that we're, you know,
(15:10):
giving on migrants and all thatand you know use For drug
programs, for education aboutfentanyl and you know one pill
kills and all that.
I mean our Texas governor, regAbbot.
He signed a bill one pill killswhere it was um fentanyl
dealers.
Now they're being charged withLike poisoning or something
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which is like attempted murder,basically.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, they're gonna be charged with like attempted
murder charges if they getcaught.
So yeah.
Yeah, they're upping thepunishment for that, so that's
good.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I have to say I'm really proud of our governor.
I mean, we are a border state,so we are hugely impacted by
this issue.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He's held his ground.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He has.
He doesn't feel supported.
He feels like he's.
He's got immigration orimmigrants coming in and
overtaking and we don't knowwhere to take it.
He's the one that started.
Let's put the, put them onbuses and send them to.
New York or Chicago or whereveryou know he's like we gotta do
something, um.
(16:11):
So I hope you guys canappreciate if you're not from
Texas, which I know a lot of ourlisteners aren't, and if you're
not from a border state, thatyou can appreciate the dire
situation situation and having agovernor that's really taking
some action on trying to make itdifferent and to help protect
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us as citizens in our state, andso, um, we're, you know, pretty
proud of him for all theactions.
And what's the latest you wantto talk about?
That this is so big with the USSupreme Court oh yeah,
yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So the Supreme Court overruled um it was uh here we
go they the Texas didn't have.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We were.
Our hands were tied.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We didn't have the ability to to enforce the laws
that we have in place, which ispretty stupid.
So we're allowed to enforce SPfor allowing state police to
arrest and deport illegal aliensyeah seven of the nine justices
sided with Texas over the bodyadministration.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So so basically we have now we have the control to
arrest someone.
That's um entered our countryillegally right and they can
arrest them, they can detainthem or they can deport them so
simplified down.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We can arrest someone who now breaks the law, correct
?
Yes, basically yes how did weget to this?
I know right, this is so out ofhand.
How do we?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
have to have the Supreme Court say it's okay to
do that it's okay to to arrest.
It's in arrest and enforce yeahthe law.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You know that's in the constitution.
You know you break the law.
You know usually you go to jail, you get arrested, some side of
the punishment.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But these guys, yeah, don't worry about them yeah, so
it like it applies to us here,like us citizens, but it doesn't
apply to people that come intothe country illegally yeah and
that's just not right.
Okay, I don't care, whatever no, it's not right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So anyway, it's not a political thing at this point.
No, it's really just ahumanitarian issue it is.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It's a moral and humanitarian issue.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, so um it's much bigger than that, yeah and so
the other problem too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
With what we were talking about, we ended up with
drugs, but the other iscriminals being allowed in.
And so what's our latest?
What not latest?
I'm sure it's not the latest,but do you want to talk about
Lake and Riley?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm sure some of you know about her and what happened
to her yeah, she was a 22 yearold college student, lake and
Riley.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
She was murdered by an illegal alien who crossed the
border under biden um this guybasically, yeah, let me see yeah
, she was a university ofGeorgia nursing student.
I'm sorry, but on a jog she wason a jog and he came up to her
and just started beating her todeath and just figured her
school and she was 22 years oldand this guy was from Venezuela
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and he was arrested earlier in2023 on a sex crime against a
minor and the judge let him backout somehow and didn't do
anything.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Didn't do anything, so we let this guy we let this
guy back out on our streets.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And now a mother is grieving her young daughter, who
was a nursing student and againit goes back to.
Kayla Hamilton is another girlthat was killed by an illegal
immigrant, and Elizabeth Modenawas another girl.
I was killed by an immigrant.
She was a high schooler, soit's just going up you have so
much passion behind this, I cantell it's no, it's ridiculous
(19:37):
because I mean, we're putting somuch money into these people
and they're I mean, what aboutthat?
Four NYPD officers that werebrutally attacked in the street
um.
Last week another cop wasattacked by a machete in Times
Square yeah, machete, yeah umand and it's scary, it's very
scary, and and we have thirdworld criminals coming over here
(19:57):
and acting like criminals anddoing third world activities and
they're, they're being.
There's no consequence, there'sno consequence they get let out
on bond or whatever and thenthey just go back to their hotel
.
I mean, they're getting cellphones, they're getting, you
know, hotel rooms and stuff.
Meanwhile we have a veteran uhcrisis in our country.
We still have a shitload ofhomeless people in our country.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's we're giving money all the wrong issues, so
it sucks right, um, so you knowI kind of want to just wrap this
up Greg um was doing someresearch and I know immigrant,
or you know people coming intothis country has been going on
for years and years and yearsand that's how we've become our
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country the melting pot right,you're an immigrant, probably,
right.
Greg, you're an immigrant.
Um Well, let's explain that.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, no, he said that.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So we always like to share a little bit of our lives
and our you know, our lives andour things that are going on in
our podcast.
But yeah, holy cow.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I am an immigrant, you are an immigrant, that's
cool.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So we adopted Greg from Russia when he was a baby
in 2003.
So, but we had, you know, toput it in perspective, we jumped
through hoops and did so muchpaperwork and we paid money and
we did all these things to getGreg.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The right way.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The right way.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Not to mention the travel fees and like how long
were those flights?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh, it was 24 hours.
Oh my gosh.
We had two trips, but the wholeadoption process was I'm just
going to throw the number outbecause I want you to realize it
was $40,000 from agency fees tofees that we gave to Russia,
money we gave to Russia for youand it was a whole process.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It was a whole process.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
A lovely process.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But a stressful process, stressful.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But we did it.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The right way.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Because we did it the right way and we didn't think
of doing it.
We weren't going to go overthere and, like, steal a baby,
you know, or do somethingillegal.
We just thought we were doingit the right way.
But so good example.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Right you just do it the right way, and it can even
continue to, even after I was inthe United States.
Right, that way I was acomplete US citizen.
That way I didn't have like theRussia in the US.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We readopted you in the state of Texas so that you
would have a Texas birthcertificate.
There we go yeah, so that youwouldn't have a Russian birth
certificate, so that when youhad to go to college or you
applied for a driver's license,there would be no question about
your validity.
So we even did that after thefact we paid a little more extra
(22:48):
money.
We met with an attorney in SanAntonio and it was a big
celebration day and we had thejudge at the court and we had
pictures you might remember.
You were sitting on the lap ofthe judge and you had the gavel.
What did they call it?
Gavel?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The gavel yeah.
And you got to bang it on thething.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, you were probably five or six, I think I
might.
Yeah, we got to that point torevalid, just to you already are
.
We just wanted you to have thepaperwork to show it here in the
US.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
There we go yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But you know.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You would go through.
I went back to get me.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
We did.
Yeah, it worth it.
Worth every penny in everysecond.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So immigration's always been yeah, like you were
saying, though yeah, it's fineto do it.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I want people to come here, I want them to have the
goodness of this, but do it theright way.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And we need our leaders to set that up for
people.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
When we interviewed she was like come in the front
door, don't come in through mywindows or my back door.
Yes, Thank you yeah come in theright way.
So yeah, and like, present tous that you're willing to work,
you're willing to make somethingout of nothing.
And you're a hard worker andyou have values.
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Because don't we do that as Americans?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We try.
Yeah, I mean we have values.
We have to provide forourselves.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
We show that we're going to make something out of
nothing.
You're a college student rightnow.
You are going to make somethingout of nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're determined, you're a hard worker and that is
how you've been brought up.
You're going to becomesomething that you want to
become and provide.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But if we show people that they can just be dependent
on the taxpayer and all thosecoming in, that's no motivation
to do anything besides layaround and steal, and I mean
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.
So it kind of reminds me ofwell, you know, I'm thinking
about this whole thing.
So what's important to me, andthis is what I want our
listeners to think about, whatdo you think about this issue?
We're trying to educate you.
I'm not saying close it off,but anyways, I want, I am
(24:50):
concerned about our publicsafety in this day and age.
You know what would happen.
We're letting criminals in here, we're letting drugs in here,
and that's not safe for ourpeople.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
They caught a suspected terrorist four days
ago at the border, so that'sgood.
Yeah, they caught him at least.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But what about the ones that weren't caught?
You know, what about the onesthat are blending into all these
other immigrants actuallycoming here for a better life or
something, right?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So but you know, there's also things like, like I
said, those are kind ofimportant to me.
You know, I don't want disease.
I don't want people coming overbringing COVID or some other
disease that we don't even havehere.
I think there should be somecontrols around that.
But there's also things likeyou know, how are these people
going to support themselves whenthey get here?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
How are we going to support these people?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, but that's the thing, yes, that's what it boils
down to, because when you comeinto our country, you have to be
legal.
And when you get a job, there'semployers can't hire you unless
you have proper documentationthat you are a legal citizen.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And it's an I-9 that you have to prove, you have to
show I have an ID or I have avalid passport, or you know the
I9 form is used to verify theidentity, the identity and the
employment authorization ofindividuals hired for employment
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So it's basically you know, showing that you're a US
citizen or you know you'reauthorized to work in the US,
right?
So if you're an illegalimmigrant, how are you going to
work like that?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, employers can't hire you, so what is that
telling me?
So people are coming here,they're working for cash, or
they're getting aid from thegovernment, or they're getting a
place to stay at a hotel orthey're working black market
jobs or weird jobs, or you know.
Right, and so that none of thatis safe, or it's, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What about all these other people that are coming
over here and getting jobs andtaking the money away from the
actual Americans that are out ofjobs?
Because we know there are a lotof people out of jobs right now
, right?
Who's going to fill thosepositions with jobs that nobody
wants?
So I mean, let's say, in twoyears, right?
We have four million pluspeople that came into the border
since 2024.
(26:59):
It's now 2026.
If we have a four millionpopulation increase, what are
those four million people aregoing to do for a living?
You know, yeah, and we alreadyhave people out of jobs right
now that are trying to find work, that are, you know, just
trying to make a living forthemselves.
I mean it's going to boil downto an ugly situation, so, and
(27:22):
they're trying to give morerights to illegals than well,
americans have, frankly, rightnow.
I mean, in Illinois the otherday a judge passed that illegals
can carry firearms.
How does that make sense?
To buy a firearm, you have todo a full background check, you
have to scan your ID, you haveto prove that you're not, you
(27:42):
know, a felon, all that.
You have to pass a gun safetyownership thing.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sure like we do.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah Right, it's a complicated process, just like
adoption, so it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, it's just.
It doesn't make sense aboutfollowing rules and and how are
you know why are some peopleexempt from those rules?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right, and why do we have to follow them?
But they don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Right.
So, so I think we need to wrapup.
We've gone over our usual time,but it's been a really awesome
conversation and it's a reallyimportant topic, and so we would
like to ask you all to thinkabout.
You know how you feel aboutimmigration.
You know, based on what we'vesaid, do some more research on
(28:25):
your own and then, mostimportantly, or even more
equally important it's all good,it's all equal Register to vote
for this next upcomingpresidential election, which is
happening in November.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Don't vote online.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I would just go to the get your register and
then you just go.
They'll show your ID and you'regood to go.
Yeah, but it's important, andget going on the current topics
and what's going on with thepresidential race.
It's really important.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And also do your own research.
Don't go to sites like Fox Newsor CNN, where they just pet old
people with bias against theother time.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, you can, but you get a watch.
You could watch both.
You can watch both too.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
but you know, do some independent journalism, look it
up for yourself.
What really happened inIllinois, you know?
Look up the article and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, get out there and vote, vote, vote because
it's important.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yes, all right.
Well, we appreciate you alllistening in and hope we were
able to inform you all, yeahinform you all at least some
impressions, and we will be backsoon again.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, all right, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All right, take care, see you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And remember you are not alone.
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