February 1, 2024 • 25 mins
Uncover the stark realities of America's deadliest drug threat with Debbie Gold and me, Greg, as we dissect the fentanyl crisis that's gripping the nation. Your ears won't believe the harrowing statistics and the new, dangerous mixtures hitting the streets, such as xylazine-fentanyl concoctions. We're bringing the battle against this epidemic front and center, revealing how Texas is taking a stand with educational initiatives and life-saving measures like Narcan distribution.
This episode is a clarion call to action, shedding light on the trafficking networks that are funneling fentanyl into our communities, and the chilling effects of this potent drug. Through our conversation, you're equipped with the knowledge of what to watch for—the ominous "fentanyl lean" and other overdose symptoms that signal a need for rapid response. It’s a candid and necessary discussion that could make the difference in recognizing the emergency at hand, offering a beacon of hope as we stand united in the face of this relentless crisis. Join us to arm yourself with awareness, because understanding these dangers is the first step towards safeguarding our loved ones and neighbors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to another episode of the you Are
Not Alone podcast.
My name is Debbie Gold and I'mhere with my co-host and son,
greg, and we are so glad thatyou're here with us.
Each week on this show, we willtalk about informative issues,
issues that will make you thinkand help you grow.
It is our wish that you willfind hope, encouragement and a
(00:22):
little bit of Jesus in everyepisode.
Hey y'all, we're back.
Today we're going to be talkingabout fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Again.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right Back in February of 2023, we did an
episode.
It was episode 2.
It was number 2.
Yeah, fentanyl, andspecifically we talked about
what is fentanyl, what are thedangers, what are the different
types and forms it comes in,where it comes from, signs of
overdose and some rules that cansave your life.
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And it was a lot of information, but it was information that we
felt we needed to put out forour listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Potentially a life saving.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Exactly so if you haven't listened to it, do so.
It's full of, like I said, lotsof useful information.
So, sadly, fentanyl overdose isnot on a decline, as we were
hoping it would be.
Yeah, it's worse, it's on anincline.
And Milgrom from the DEA, whichis the Drug Enforcement
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Administration Department, shesays this Fentanyl is the single
deadliest drug threat ournation has ever encountered.
Fentanyl is everywhere, fromlarge metropolitan areas to
rural America.
No community is safe from thispoison.
We're going to take everyopportunity to spread the word
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to prevent fentanyl relatedoverdose death and poisonings
from claiming scores of Americanlives every day.
So in 2022, and I'm going tospeak on Texas here, because we
are in Texas Residents yeah, soin 2022, texas lost 2012 lives
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due to fentanyl overdose.
Yeah, sad.
And then in 2023, governor GregAbbott signed House Bill 3908.
Into play, and it did twothings, or it does two things.
It requires public schools toprovide fentanyl awareness and
abuse prevention to grades sixor 12.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's really important Cause I mean think
about high school.
That's where peer pressuringhappens.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Try this, try this, try that all that stuff High
school, middle school.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
That too, which is, yeah, even sad.
I know kids that start doingdrugs in middle school and I was
like that's not good.
But no, I mean in high school.
You know peer pressure iseverywhere and stuff and you
don't know what you're gettinginto.
You know, let's say, one ofyour friends that you don't know
too well has some pills orwhatever with my phone, pills or
whatever and you know you'rethinking about trying them and
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it's fentanyl.
You know that's a fatal mistakeright there, because you just
you don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And then the peer pressure on top of it.
So people need to be aware andknow what this stuff is doing to
America.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
Nobody would take it.
Yeah, no, we'll Just for takingit, yeah literally, but it's
all coming through the cartelsand they're getting it from
China and they're producingthese pills and tablets.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And the other thing that House Bill 3908 does.
It provides all 254 counties inTexas.
Okay, we're a big state people.
Yeah, we are, we're a big state.
We're a whole lot of counties.
Each county is supplied with20,000 doses of Narcan.
That's good.
And if you don't know whatNarcan is, it's the reverse and
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opioid overdose.
And it's like a nasal spray.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, you just put it in the nose and then spray it.
Usually it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You hold one nostril.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Because typically the person overdosing won't be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It redos or reduces the effects of an opioid.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Hopefully, hopefully, yeah, if the person is lucky
right, and so most states areworking on awareness campaigns
like this.
So praise God for that, thatthere's some work happening, and
I think, the one thing I justwanna bring to everyone's
attention, besides just fentanylmaybe a lot of people have
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heard about fentanyl.
But yet people are still dyingfrom it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, it's just cut noodles and powders and stuff
that you don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So it's scary.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But anyway.
So most recently, xylazine isbeing mixed with fentanyl, and
so you might say what isxylazine?
And this is known as Trank, andit's a very powerful sedative
that's been approved by the FDAfor veterinarian use.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's basically like a horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So extremely strong.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, if you can tranquilize a horse, can you
only imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What it does to a human.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And a horse?
Is what?
3,000 pounds.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh no, something like that A human's.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What 150 to 200 usually.
I mean, you can imagine.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Not even some.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So, yeah, the DEA says that in 2023, approximately
get this people 20 in 2023,they said that approximately 23%
of fentanyl powder and 7% offentanyl pills that they seized
contained xylazine.
So it's there and it's gonna belike when fentanyl first
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started it was there and not toomuch of it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Most people didn't know about it, people that got
used to fentanyl.
And then, with drugs, you havea tolerance, your tolerance
builds, and then you needsomething else that's way
stronger.
Yo, I got some fentanyl mixedwith horse strength.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So you wanna try it.
Sure, what would it do?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, get you really high.
Yeah, that's the addict's mindand at that point, if you're
doing fentanyl or hard drugs,you're willing to try anything.
At that point I feel like Right, that's true, you're so long
gone.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I had seen on the news they were doing a showing
what was going on in SanFrancisco and literally and they
were talking about this trank Alot of them weren't homeless
people and whatnot, but they'relaying on the streets and you
can see their skin, your skineats away.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's called the zombie drug.
It's literally real lifezombies, because it eats away
your skin and just rots awayyour flesh.
So, I mean you'll have sores,and sometimes you'll have
homeless people out there thatneed amputations because their
leg is literally about to falloff.
All they care about is justsmoking their fent.
I guess I don't know.
It's really sad.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So this is really big .
This is huge.
This is not something you wannabe messing with, and this is
why we got to stay away from thepills, because we just don't
know what's in them.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, exactly.
You don't know where you'regetting it from.
You don't know who made them,who sourced them.
There could be multiple placesthat you get stuff from and they
could be passed on multipletimes.
I got this pill from this guyand then I give it to this guy
this guy give it to that guy,and then that guy is going to
sell it.
So it's like you don't knowwhere it's coming from.
You don't know who made that,who pressed that pill, what
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their intentions are.
Stay away from it.
It's really scary.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, and I don't know what's happening with the
federal government.
I mean we have got to stop thiscoming into our country and I'm
not sure what means are beingtaken.
But I mean, first awareness isgreat and good.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But then action is more important.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We need action to stop it.
Yeah it's getting crazy I'velost.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, I don't know, I didn't know them well, but I
know two people from my highschool that passed away from
fent normal.
At first people were saying itwasn't fent normal, he was doing
different drugs, stuff likethat.
But then came out fent normal.
I was like wow, he didn't knowhe was 19.
So I was like, wow.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So very sad.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Life wasted.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
A life wasted.
Yeah, speaking of that, the DEA, at their headquarters they
have it's called the Faces ofFentanyl Wall and it's literally
pictures of people that youngpeople that have died of
fentanyl that their parents havesubmitted and gave permission
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for that to be up Fentanyl Wallyeah.
Yeah, and it's really tocommemorate the lives of those
that we've lost to Fentanyl.
And had they been aware of thepossible dangers of taking a
pill from an unknown source anunknown source they might not be
on that wall right now.
It just takes that one pill andwhat's really sad is how it's.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
on the incline, you know that wall or that post,
you're just getting bigger.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Right, yeah, Go check it out on the DEA website.
It's there.
And then I was even.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know I was like, wow, I was even.
You know, I was explaining toChase, my little brother.
I was explaining to him whatwe're going to be talking about
and you know I was telling himpeople are mixing horse
tranquilizer or, you know, vettranquilizer with fentanyl.
Chase was like why would you dothat?
I was like, well, think aboutit.
It gives a stronger high andalso it's very cheap.
To do Like, let's say likeyou're a crappy drug dealer or
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whatever and you want to savemoney and you don't care about
people's lives.
You get some smarties like thecandy.
You know smarties.
You crush that up and you pressit into a pill.
If you eat that smarties, it'snot going to do anything, right?
You add a little bit offentanyl or horse tranquilizer.
That thing is going to mess youup.
So, you can literally just like,disguise drugs with that evil
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stuff and then sell it forprofit.
So it's a really sick andtwisted way and there has to be
a harsher punishment for thesetype of dealers and people that
are I mean, killing peopleessentially.
So it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And you know they're doing it.
Why would you do that?
They do it for the money.
And the other thing, too, isthat there are countries that
want to see our young people gowhat eliminated.
Yeah, and you know that's noline.
I can't speak too big on thator what countries are.
Why are you know any of that?
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But I have read that and I'veheard about it I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So right now, 80% of right, let's say I don't know, I
don't know how much, but alarge percentage of fentanyl
it's made in chinese labs.
And those chinese laboratoriesthey have written contracts with
certain cartels based in mexico, right, so they, you know, you
ship you know eight pounds offentanyl.
You get paid you know eighthundred thousand dollars.
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Right, so you have a littledeal going back and forth
Mexican drug cartels.
They then take the fentanyl,they put it either into drugs or
they just take it purely overthe border.
And what is our border looklike right now?
It's wide open.
So it's so easy to just walkacross with a backpack full of
ten pounds of fentanyl.
Or you know pills, you know Say, or that you're saying is not
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fentanyl, but the fentanyl, youknow it's.
It's open access right now.
We have to put a stop to thisbecause countless americans are
dying from this.
Well, and it's being smuggledinto vehicles and it's so easy
to do it right now because it'sa wide open border yes, our
border is not protected.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's not so.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Twenty five states actually, you know, signed up
against our current presidentialadministration, say, hey,
enough is enough.
You know right these migrantsand these drugs.
It's enough.
So many people have just passedaway from this evil drug, so
and president biden has finallyadmitted that it is a problem
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yeah and which he started bysigning off.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Stop building the wall, exactly, anyways, we won't
get into politics.
So, but also, I want to justmake a note this this indicates
how important this is that theDEA has made August twenty first
national fentanyl preventionand awareness day.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I told chase that he literally was like that it's sad
.
I was like yeah it is a day forpeople passing away a fentanyl,
like remembering them that wehave a day for people passing
away from a specific drug, notyou know a disease that played.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
you know people a certain drug that's just that's
nasty yeah, for sure, I wantedto talk a little bit great, and
I know this is big for you to.
But what are?
What are the symptoms?
What do they look like whensomeone is overdosing from
fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
so Me and my brother chase, I mean I've showed him
videos of like how bad it'sgotten in like Philadelphia,
detroit and stuff, and when mostpeople are on hard drugs
fentanyl, tranquilizer stuffthey could stand possibly, but
they're going to be like leaningover and being chase of calling
it like the fentanyl, thefentanyl lean.
So the fentanyl lean thefentanyl lean basically yeah, so
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you'll be basically just likenodding off.
In broad daylight you'll bestanding lamp, but then, yeah,
you'll be just hunched over andlamp, completely lamp.
So yeah.
I'm falling asleep,unconsciousness, because I mean,
the thing is with fentanyl I'veseen like documentaries and
stuff on YouTube when addictshave interviewed, like gotten
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interviewed and stuff.
They keep each other awakebecause if you fall asleep in
fentanyl so dangerous yourheartbeat slows down to where it
just stops so you want toliterally hey, wake up, wake up,
wake up.
You know they literally keepeach other awake for that stuff,
so that's how dangerous it is.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, I got your back right no, they're like wake up.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wake up because, yeah , you don't want them to die.
So that's how scary this stuffis Small, tiny pupils.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I think the weaker.
No, breathing that kind of tiesinto what you're saying, but
how it affects your heart slowsyour heartbeat down so much is
it just relaxes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
open your own, to your body, and you can always
tell what if you put your handover someone's nose?
And you can barely feel it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You can yeah, you can feel how well someone's
breathing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Barely holding on.
Yeah, the faintest pulse ever,or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I know, like gurgling sounds too.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Some people call that the death rattle yeah, so.
Lent body like most people arejust some people, like you'll
see on the streets that are justpassed out.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
yeah, yeah, but you were talking about too when you
said they just kind of lean outand they're just standing
hunched over yeah it looks likethey're like dead standing, so
it's insane yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Cold or pale skin, I guess.
I guess they turn white.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The cold skin, you know, you can feel, feel
yourself and then compare.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
They feel all clammy.
Yeah, that's definitely never agood sign, no matter what I
mean if you think about all thatblood that was in your skin
before it's going to your heart,because your heart's beating
slower.
You know it's working wayharder to keep blood into it.
So that's probably what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Possibly.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then I know discolored skin, especially like
your lips and nails.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I didn't know that your lips getting discolored.
Like what color?
Like white or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I would just go much lighter yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But so let's, and then let's, let's just chat
about, I mean thank.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
God, you kind of recognize the symptoms right.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
If it was something to where you don't even know
you're overdosing until it killsyou, you know that'd be some
even worse.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and you know you're not always going to know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The person.
I mean, you could be just atschool and you see somebody do
that and you don't even know theperson.
But if you I've been on.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You remember when I went to downtown Austin when I
was working on the lightfixtures and stuff.
We were watching this, we wereso we were doing like window
tinting and stuff.
We were taking the tin off thewindows.
Me and my buddy went down to7-Eleven and there was this
homeless guy and he wasabsolutely like rancid.
He was on some hardcore drugs.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh, wow it was fried.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He was like 65.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Pants were down to his ankles and then he had a
blanket on.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was like mental health combined with drugs and
stuff.
But he was just going Dualdiagnosis?
Yeah, I mean we ignored him andthen we go back up to the
building and stuff and we canget a clear view of him from our
.
You know where we're working.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh wow, you were on the what floor.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like the 17th floor, oh, ok, yeah, so we're just
watching him down below andstuff.
And then he literally he waslike so messed up or something,
he fell, he fell on the pavementor something, and then he
literally just put the blanketover him and then just slept for
like an hour and then justwalked up and then just start
doing circles again, just repeatand do them.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So that's so sad.
I know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So it's a mental health thing, and then it's a
drug thing.
So, and some people that theythat stay out there.
I mean, they want to be outthere because I mean it's
freedom.
So especially in cities whereyou allow it.
So San Francisco.
I've literally heard an addict,a woman addict.
She was like I can stay outhere.
I have a TV in my tent and Ihave a small grill behind my
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tent.
All I do out a is pee, get highand eat.
And I was like wow and likethat's all, that's all life for
them, that's all they want to do.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I was like, wow, so some people choose to be out
there.
Other people they just, it'sjust, they have a combination of
mental health and a drugaddiction and they can't get on
a stable foot.
But it's sad.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, and they, and a lot of them, don't want to
either, even if there was aplace, you know they do offer
places for people to come andget help and and they choose not
to because it's just adifferent lifestyle.
It's a different lifestyle,yeah you're.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You're used to waking up at 6am, lighting up that
crack pipe or you know doingsomething crazy, and then just
doing nothing all day andscouring the city, hanging out
with your friend doing you knowwhatever.
But the thing is like you canmake someone go into a rehab
center, but they want to do itthemselves.
They have to want it themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well it's.
It's not that people don't wantto, they can't.
I've been reading, I'm readinga book called Sometimes dopamine
nation and people are addictedand I'm not talking about just
drugs and alcohol and I want todo some topics on this because
it is very interesting.
I'm talking about anything thatwe get addicted to games.
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I mean you call it what youwant, but when you can't, you
know it's an addiction in yourmind.
The dopamine and the receptorsin your mind become to the point
where the the pain overtakesthe play.
I mean, it's just interestingPhenomenon that people really
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need to hear about.
And I'm not talking, I'mtalking young people to that you
, you know, when you sayaddiction, people think drugs
are alcohol.
There is, so it could beanything it's anything that you
do Repetitively or maybe gets inthe way of things that you
maybe you should be doing right.
So there's a good way to asimple way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But so yeah, you're right it's a, thing, but also
it's physically addicting orit's physically demanding for
them because think about opioidwithdrawals.
Apparently it's hell on earthand a lot of homeless people
they know.
If they go to like rehab centersomething, they have to get
clean.
And let's say you've been usinghard drugs, pills or opiates or
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you know whatever it is For sixmonths on the streets.
If you go into that shelter anduse nothing because it's
restricted, right, you can't getdrugs your body is probably
going to either shut down orjust go through hell for like
five days and most people.
They know that because they'readdicts, right.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you can't do that alone, you need to be in a
place a hospital, a detox center, whatever it's just so.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
it's such a different lifestyle yeah it really is
yeah anyway, it's such a hardapproach.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, anyway.
So let's, let's wrap it up andfinish with you know what?
What do you do if you seesomeone overdosing?
Yeah, yeah, you see this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You see all the symptoms you get all the clues,
all the signs, you're like, ohmy goodness, this is happening.
So I mean, the first thing youdo really, you stay calm.
Okay, my dad always told me, insituations where people are
freaking out, you want to be thecalmest one there, because
you'll know what to do andyou'll be able to think clearly
and straight, instead of otherpeople are just freaking out and
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make them their thoughts andall that.
Stay calm, control thesituation.
So, that's the first thing youdo, and then the second step.
I mean 911, 911 yeah.
And then scream Narcan mostpeople nowadays they've heard.
They've heard of Narcan itself,and it's actually pretty
readily available.
It is most CBS pharmacies,other gas stations.
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If you're in New York where alot- of it does happen, they're
gonna go to go to those sandwichshops.
They have Narcan.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, they're in all the schools.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now some people that are like nurses off duty.
They like carry them like apurse stuff, just in case.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, so they it is.
But and then you talked aboutthis, greg, try to keep that
person awake and just don't letthem go to sleep wake up, wake
up just keep tapping on.
You know, talk about whateveryou can yeah, literally.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Look at my eyes.
Hey, keep your eyes open, yeah,my eyes.
What's your name?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
what day is it?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
yeah, can run through through some of that right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
If they're talking, they're awake and everything
yeah, and then turn the personon their side to prevent choking
a lot of times, if you overdose, you'll throw up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And if you, let's say , you overdose, right, you're
gonna fall asleep, right, butthen your body is gonna throw up
because it's rejecting thatpoison.
If you're on your back and youthrow up, you're gonna choke on
your own vomit, yeah, so youhave to be on your side.
So turn them on their side ifthey're choking.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, just in general .
I mean, turn them on their side, I would think.
Don't wait till they startchoking.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Same with seizures sometimes in seizures, people
try to swallow their own tongueright.
That's like the body's naturalinstinct.
So keep them on their side sothey can't swallow their own
tongue in the breathe wet or thedeath way is clear yeah, yeah,
and then stay with the personuntil help gets there till the
paramedics.
Talk with them.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm here for you yeah , just talk like you've never
talked before exactly.
Some of you don't have aproblem with that, and some do
so.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
There you go but at this time this person will
literally thank you for savingtheir life.
So it's like life or death yeahjust be as nice as you can just
be with them.
Let them know that you're therefor them right.
I'm here, buddy, you know.
Wake up.
You know they're on the way,you know like that.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So help us, here it's coming yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got lucky this time, buddy.
Yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay.
Well, that's our show for today.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I hope for a lot of good info.
Yeah, I like that yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
it was a good Good talk today, greg and update good
update yeah.
Let's go be our take away.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
If you see Narcan, it's your call to action get a
bottle of Narcan.
Also tell people about this newtranquilizer stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Tell at least two people about Trank.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'd say 80%, about 80% of people.
They know about fentanylnowadays because it's you know
in the news, on On yourInstagram, all this stuff.
But most people they don't knowthat Fentanyl is getting more
scary.
So I didn't even think it couldget more scary.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But it is right.
So who would have thought?
Right, yeah so xylazine is thename of Trank, but it's the how
you spell.
It is X, y, la, z, I, n, e and.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And in Spanish it's called anesthesia de caballo, so
that's the name for it Allright, good job, greg.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah all right, so tell, tell some people about
Trank, and if you're Wanting toknow more about fentanyl or just
curious about what we talkedabout, go back to episode number
two, back in February Of 2023.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That breaks down fentanyl to itself, not Trank
fentanyl.
Yeah, just fentanyl Just byitself, what to do someone's
ODing, kind of similar, but itgives a lot of good details.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So and just a lot of good information, just.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, good information in general.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
So All right, well, wow, thank you so much, jesus,
for this episode.
It's been wonderful.
You all remember that you arenot alone and we'll see you next
time.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All right.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the you Are
Not Alone podcast.
My name is Debbie Gold and I'mhere with my co-host and son,
greg, and we are so glad thatyou're here with us.
Each week on this show, we willtalk about informative issues,
issues that will make you thinkand help you grow.
It is our wish that you willfind hope, encouragement and a
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little bit of Jesus in everyepisode.
Hey y'all, we're back.
Today we're going to be talkingabout fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Again.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right Back in February of 2023, we did an
episode.
It was episode 2.
It was number 2.
Yeah, fentanyl, andspecifically we talked about
what is fentanyl, what are thedangers, what are the different
types and forms it comes in,where it comes from, signs of
overdose and some rules that cansave your life.
(00:56):
And it was a lot of information, but it was information that we
felt we needed to put out forour listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Potentially a life saving.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Exactly so if you haven't listened to it, do so.
It's full of, like I said, lotsof useful information.
So, sadly, fentanyl overdose isnot on a decline, as we were
hoping it would be.
Yeah, it's worse, it's on anincline.
And Milgrom from the DEA, whichis the Drug Enforcement
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Administration Department, shesays this Fentanyl is the single
deadliest drug threat ournation has ever encountered.
Fentanyl is everywhere, fromlarge metropolitan areas to
rural America.
No community is safe from thispoison.
We're going to take everyopportunity to spread the word
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to prevent fentanyl relatedoverdose death and poisonings
from claiming scores of Americanlives every day.
So in 2022, and I'm going tospeak on Texas here, because we
are in Texas Residents yeah, soin 2022, texas lost 2012 lives
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due to fentanyl overdose.
Yeah, sad.
And then in 2023, governor GregAbbott signed House Bill 3908.
Into play, and it did twothings, or it does two things.
It requires public schools toprovide fentanyl awareness and
abuse prevention to grades sixor 12.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's really important Cause I mean think
about high school.
That's where peer pressuringhappens.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Try this, try this, try that all that stuff High
school, middle school.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
That too, which is, yeah, even sad.
I know kids that start doingdrugs in middle school and I was
like that's not good.
But no, I mean in high school.
You know peer pressure iseverywhere and stuff and you
don't know what you're gettinginto.
You know, let's say, one ofyour friends that you don't know
too well has some pills orwhatever with my phone, pills or
whatever and you know you'rethinking about trying them and
(03:12):
it's fentanyl.
You know that's a fatal mistakeright there, because you just
you don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And then the peer pressure on top of it.
So people need to be aware andknow what this stuff is doing to
America.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
Nobody would take it.
Yeah, no, we'll Just for takingit, yeah literally, but it's
all coming through the cartelsand they're getting it from
China and they're producingthese pills and tablets.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And the other thing that House Bill 3908 does.
It provides all 254 counties inTexas.
Okay, we're a big state people.
Yeah, we are, we're a big state.
We're a whole lot of counties.
Each county is supplied with20,000 doses of Narcan.
That's good.
And if you don't know whatNarcan is, it's the reverse and
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opioid overdose.
And it's like a nasal spray.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, you just put it in the nose and then spray it.
Usually it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You hold one nostril.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Because typically the person overdosing won't be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It redos or reduces the effects of an opioid.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Hopefully, hopefully, yeah, if the person is lucky
right, and so most states areworking on awareness campaigns
like this.
So praise God for that, thatthere's some work happening, and
I think, the one thing I justwanna bring to everyone's
attention, besides just fentanylmaybe a lot of people have
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heard about fentanyl.
But yet people are still dyingfrom it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, it's just cut noodles and powders and stuff
that you don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So it's scary.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But anyway.
So most recently, xylazine isbeing mixed with fentanyl, and
so you might say what isxylazine?
And this is known as Trank, andit's a very powerful sedative
that's been approved by the FDAfor veterinarian use.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's basically like a horse tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So extremely strong.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, if you can tranquilize a horse, can you
only imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What it does to a human.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And a horse?
Is what?
3,000 pounds.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh no, something like that A human's.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What 150 to 200 usually.
I mean, you can imagine.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Not even some.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So, yeah, the DEA says that in 2023, approximately
get this people 20 in 2023,they said that approximately 23%
of fentanyl powder and 7% offentanyl pills that they seized
contained xylazine.
So it's there and it's gonna belike when fentanyl first
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started it was there and not toomuch of it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Most people didn't know about it, people that got
used to fentanyl.
And then, with drugs, you havea tolerance, your tolerance
builds, and then you needsomething else that's way
stronger.
Yo, I got some fentanyl mixedwith horse strength.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So you wanna try it.
Sure, what would it do?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, get you really high.
Yeah, that's the addict's mindand at that point, if you're
doing fentanyl or hard drugs,you're willing to try anything.
At that point I feel like Right, that's true, you're so long
gone.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I had seen on the news they were doing a showing
what was going on in SanFrancisco and literally and they
were talking about this trank Alot of them weren't homeless
people and whatnot, but they'relaying on the streets and you
can see their skin, your skineats away.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's called the zombie drug.
It's literally real lifezombies, because it eats away
your skin and just rots awayyour flesh.
So, I mean you'll have sores,and sometimes you'll have
homeless people out there thatneed amputations because their
leg is literally about to falloff.
All they care about is justsmoking their fent.
I guess I don't know.
It's really sad.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So this is really big .
This is huge.
This is not something you wannabe messing with, and this is
why we got to stay away from thepills, because we just don't
know what's in them.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, exactly.
You don't know where you'regetting it from.
You don't know who made them,who sourced them.
There could be multiple placesthat you get stuff from and they
could be passed on multipletimes.
I got this pill from this guyand then I give it to this guy
this guy give it to that guy,and then that guy is going to
sell it.
So it's like you don't knowwhere it's coming from.
You don't know who made that,who pressed that pill, what
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their intentions are.
Stay away from it.
It's really scary.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, and I don't know what's happening with the
federal government.
I mean we have got to stop thiscoming into our country and I'm
not sure what means are beingtaken.
But I mean, first awareness isgreat and good.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But then action is more important.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We need action to stop it.
Yeah it's getting crazy I'velost.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, I don't know, I didn't know them well, but I
know two people from my highschool that passed away from
fent normal.
At first people were saying itwasn't fent normal, he was doing
different drugs, stuff likethat.
But then came out fent normal.
I was like wow, he didn't knowhe was 19.
So I was like, wow.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So very sad.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Life wasted.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
A life wasted.
Yeah, speaking of that, the DEA, at their headquarters they
have it's called the Faces ofFentanyl Wall and it's literally
pictures of people that youngpeople that have died of
fentanyl that their parents havesubmitted and gave permission
(09:07):
for that to be up Fentanyl Wallyeah.
Yeah, and it's really tocommemorate the lives of those
that we've lost to Fentanyl.
And had they been aware of thepossible dangers of taking a
pill from an unknown source anunknown source they might not be
on that wall right now.
It just takes that one pill andwhat's really sad is how it's.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
on the incline, you know that wall or that post,
you're just getting bigger.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Right, yeah, Go check it out on the DEA website.
It's there.
And then I was even.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know I was like, wow, I was even.
You know, I was explaining toChase, my little brother.
I was explaining to him whatwe're going to be talking about
and you know I was telling himpeople are mixing horse
tranquilizer or, you know, vettranquilizer with fentanyl.
Chase was like why would you dothat?
I was like, well, think aboutit.
It gives a stronger high andalso it's very cheap.
To do Like, let's say likeyou're a crappy drug dealer or
(10:06):
whatever and you want to savemoney and you don't care about
people's lives.
You get some smarties like thecandy.
You know smarties.
You crush that up and you pressit into a pill.
If you eat that smarties, it'snot going to do anything, right?
You add a little bit offentanyl or horse tranquilizer.
That thing is going to mess youup.
So, you can literally just like,disguise drugs with that evil
(10:28):
stuff and then sell it forprofit.
So it's a really sick andtwisted way and there has to be
a harsher punishment for thesetype of dealers and people that
are I mean, killing peopleessentially.
So it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And you know they're doing it.
Why would you do that?
They do it for the money.
And the other thing, too, isthat there are countries that
want to see our young people gowhat eliminated.
Yeah, and you know that's noline.
I can't speak too big on thator what countries are.
Why are you know any of that?
(11:02):
But I have read that and I'veheard about it I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So right now, 80% of right, let's say I don't know, I
don't know how much, but alarge percentage of fentanyl
it's made in chinese labs.
And those chinese laboratoriesthey have written contracts with
certain cartels based in mexico, right, so they, you know, you
ship you know eight pounds offentanyl.
You get paid you know eighthundred thousand dollars.
(11:28):
Right, so you have a littledeal going back and forth
Mexican drug cartels.
They then take the fentanyl,they put it either into drugs or
they just take it purely overthe border.
And what is our border looklike right now?
It's wide open.
So it's so easy to just walkacross with a backpack full of
ten pounds of fentanyl.
Or you know pills, you know Say, or that you're saying is not
(11:51):
fentanyl, but the fentanyl, youknow it's.
It's open access right now.
We have to put a stop to thisbecause countless americans are
dying from this.
Well, and it's being smuggledinto vehicles and it's so easy
to do it right now because it'sa wide open border yes, our
border is not protected.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's not so.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Twenty five states actually, you know, signed up
against our current presidentialadministration, say, hey,
enough is enough.
You know right these migrantsand these drugs.
It's enough.
So many people have just passedaway from this evil drug, so
and president biden has finallyadmitted that it is a problem
(12:30):
yeah and which he started bysigning off.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Stop building the wall, exactly, anyways, we won't
get into politics.
So, but also, I want to justmake a note this this indicates
how important this is that theDEA has made August twenty first
national fentanyl preventionand awareness day.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I told chase that he literally was like that it's sad
.
I was like yeah it is a day forpeople passing away a fentanyl,
like remembering them that wehave a day for people passing
away from a specific drug, notyou know a disease that played.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
you know people a certain drug that's just that's
nasty yeah, for sure, I wantedto talk a little bit great, and
I know this is big for you to.
But what are?
What are the symptoms?
What do they look like whensomeone is overdosing from
fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
so Me and my brother chase, I mean I've showed him
videos of like how bad it'sgotten in like Philadelphia,
detroit and stuff, and when mostpeople are on hard drugs
fentanyl, tranquilizer stuffthey could stand possibly, but
they're going to be like leaningover and being chase of calling
it like the fentanyl, thefentanyl lean.
So the fentanyl lean thefentanyl lean basically yeah, so
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you'll be basically just likenodding off.
In broad daylight you'll bestanding lamp, but then, yeah,
you'll be just hunched over andlamp, completely lamp.
So yeah.
I'm falling asleep,unconsciousness, because I mean,
the thing is with fentanyl I'veseen like documentaries and
stuff on YouTube when addictshave interviewed, like gotten
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interviewed and stuff.
They keep each other awakebecause if you fall asleep in
fentanyl so dangerous yourheartbeat slows down to where it
just stops so you want toliterally hey, wake up, wake up,
wake up.
You know they literally keepeach other awake for that stuff,
so that's how dangerous it is.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, I got your back right no, they're like wake up.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wake up because, yeah , you don't want them to die.
So that's how scary this stuffis Small, tiny pupils.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, I think the weaker.
No, breathing that kind of tiesinto what you're saying, but
how it affects your heart slowsyour heartbeat down so much is
it just relaxes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
open your own, to your body, and you can always
tell what if you put your handover someone's nose?
And you can barely feel it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You can yeah, you can feel how well someone's
breathing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Barely holding on.
Yeah, the faintest pulse ever,or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I know, like gurgling sounds too.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Some people call that the death rattle yeah, so.
Lent body like most people arejust some people, like you'll
see on the streets that are justpassed out.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
yeah, yeah, but you were talking about too when you
said they just kind of lean outand they're just standing
hunched over yeah it looks likethey're like dead standing, so
it's insane yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Cold or pale skin, I guess.
I guess they turn white.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The cold skin, you know, you can feel, feel
yourself and then compare.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
They feel all clammy.
Yeah, that's definitely never agood sign, no matter what I
mean if you think about all thatblood that was in your skin
before it's going to your heart,because your heart's beating
slower.
You know it's working wayharder to keep blood into it.
So that's probably what'shappening.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Possibly.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then I know discolored skin, especially like
your lips and nails.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I didn't know that your lips getting discolored.
Like what color?
Like white or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I would just go much lighter yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But so let's, and then let's, let's just chat
about, I mean thank.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
God, you kind of recognize the symptoms right.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
If it was something to where you don't even know
you're overdosing until it killsyou, you know that'd be some
even worse.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and you know you're not always going to know.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The person.
I mean, you could be just atschool and you see somebody do
that and you don't even know theperson.
But if you I've been on.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You remember when I went to downtown Austin when I
was working on the lightfixtures and stuff.
We were watching this, we wereso we were doing like window
tinting and stuff.
We were taking the tin off thewindows.
Me and my buddy went down to7-Eleven and there was this
homeless guy and he wasabsolutely like rancid.
He was on some hardcore drugs.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh, wow it was fried.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He was like 65.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Pants were down to his ankles and then he had a
blanket on.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was like mental health combined with drugs and
stuff.
But he was just going Dualdiagnosis?
Yeah, I mean we ignored him andthen we go back up to the
building and stuff and we canget a clear view of him from our
.
You know where we're working.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh wow, you were on the what floor.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like the 17th floor, oh, ok, yeah, so we're just
watching him down below andstuff.
And then he literally he waslike so messed up or something,
he fell, he fell on the pavementor something, and then he
literally just put the blanketover him and then just slept for
like an hour and then justwalked up and then just start
doing circles again, just repeatand do them.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So that's so sad.
I know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So it's a mental health thing, and then it's a
drug thing.
So, and some people that theythat stay out there.
I mean, they want to be outthere because I mean it's
freedom.
So especially in cities whereyou allow it.
So San Francisco.
I've literally heard an addict,a woman addict.
She was like I can stay outhere.
I have a TV in my tent and Ihave a small grill behind my
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tent.
All I do out a is pee, get highand eat.
And I was like wow and likethat's all, that's all life for
them, that's all they want to do.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I was like, wow, so some people choose to be out
there.
Other people they just, it'sjust, they have a combination of
mental health and a drugaddiction and they can't get on
a stable foot.
But it's sad.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, and they, and a lot of them, don't want to
either, even if there was aplace, you know they do offer
places for people to come andget help and and they choose not
to because it's just adifferent lifestyle.
It's a different lifestyle,yeah you're.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You're used to waking up at 6am, lighting up that
crack pipe or you know doingsomething crazy, and then just
doing nothing all day andscouring the city, hanging out
with your friend doing you knowwhatever.
But the thing is like you canmake someone go into a rehab
center, but they want to do itthemselves.
They have to want it themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well it's.
It's not that people don't wantto, they can't.
I've been reading, I'm readinga book called Sometimes dopamine
nation and people are addictedand I'm not talking about just
drugs and alcohol and I want todo some topics on this because
it is very interesting.
I'm talking about anything thatwe get addicted to games.
(19:12):
I mean you call it what youwant, but when you can't, you
know it's an addiction in yourmind.
The dopamine and the receptorsin your mind become to the point
where the the pain overtakesthe play.
I mean, it's just interestingPhenomenon that people really
(19:36):
need to hear about.
And I'm not talking, I'mtalking young people to that you
, you know, when you sayaddiction, people think drugs
are alcohol.
There is, so it could beanything it's anything that you
do Repetitively or maybe gets inthe way of things that you
maybe you should be doing right.
So there's a good way to asimple way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But so yeah, you're right it's a, thing, but also
it's physically addicting orit's physically demanding for
them because think about opioidwithdrawals.
Apparently it's hell on earthand a lot of homeless people
they know.
If they go to like rehab centersomething, they have to get
clean.
And let's say you've been usinghard drugs, pills or opiates or
(20:22):
you know whatever it is For sixmonths on the streets.
If you go into that shelter anduse nothing because it's
restricted, right, you can't getdrugs your body is probably
going to either shut down orjust go through hell for like
five days and most people.
They know that because they'readdicts, right.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you can't do that alone, you need to be in a
place a hospital, a detox center, whatever it's just so.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
it's such a different lifestyle yeah it really is
yeah anyway, it's such a hardapproach.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, anyway.
So let's, let's wrap it up andfinish with you know what?
What do you do if you seesomeone overdosing?
Yeah, yeah, you see this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You see all the symptoms you get all the clues,
all the signs, you're like, ohmy goodness, this is happening.
So I mean, the first thing youdo really, you stay calm.
Okay, my dad always told me, insituations where people are
freaking out, you want to be thecalmest one there, because
you'll know what to do andyou'll be able to think clearly
and straight, instead of otherpeople are just freaking out and
(21:24):
make them their thoughts andall that.
Stay calm, control thesituation.
So, that's the first thing youdo, and then the second step.
I mean 911, 911 yeah.
And then scream Narcan mostpeople nowadays they've heard.
They've heard of Narcan itself,and it's actually pretty
readily available.
It is most CBS pharmacies,other gas stations.
(21:47):
If you're in New York where alot- of it does happen, they're
gonna go to go to those sandwichshops.
They have Narcan.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, they're in all the schools.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now some people that are like nurses off duty.
They like carry them like apurse stuff, just in case.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, so they it is.
But and then you talked aboutthis, greg, try to keep that
person awake and just don't letthem go to sleep wake up, wake
up just keep tapping on.
You know, talk about whateveryou can yeah, literally.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Look at my eyes.
Hey, keep your eyes open, yeah,my eyes.
What's your name?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
what day is it?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
yeah, can run through through some of that right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
If they're talking, they're awake and everything
yeah, and then turn the personon their side to prevent choking
a lot of times, if you overdose, you'll throw up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And if you, let's say , you overdose, right, you're
gonna fall asleep, right, butthen your body is gonna throw up
because it's rejecting thatpoison.
If you're on your back and youthrow up, you're gonna choke on
your own vomit, yeah, so youhave to be on your side.
So turn them on their side ifthey're choking.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, just in general .
I mean, turn them on their side, I would think.
Don't wait till they startchoking.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Same with seizures sometimes in seizures, people
try to swallow their own tongueright.
That's like the body's naturalinstinct.
So keep them on their side sothey can't swallow their own
tongue in the breathe wet or thedeath way is clear yeah, yeah,
and then stay with the personuntil help gets there till the
paramedics.
Talk with them.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm here for you yeah , just talk like you've never
talked before exactly.
Some of you don't have aproblem with that, and some do
so.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
There you go but at this time this person will
literally thank you for savingtheir life.
So it's like life or death yeahjust be as nice as you can just
be with them.
Let them know that you're therefor them right.
I'm here, buddy, you know.
Wake up.
You know they're on the way,you know like that.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So help us, here it's coming yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got lucky this time, buddy.
Yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay.
Well, that's our show for today.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I hope for a lot of good info.
Yeah, I like that yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
it was a good Good talk today, greg and update good
update yeah.
Let's go be our take away.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
If you see Narcan, it's your call to action get a
bottle of Narcan.
Also tell people about this newtranquilizer stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Tell at least two people about Trank.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'd say 80%, about 80% of people.
They know about fentanylnowadays because it's you know
in the news, on On yourInstagram, all this stuff.
But most people they don't knowthat Fentanyl is getting more
scary.
So I didn't even think it couldget more scary.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But it is right.
So who would have thought?
Right, yeah so xylazine is thename of Trank, but it's the how
you spell.
It is X, y, la, z, I, n, e and.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And in Spanish it's called anesthesia de caballo, so
that's the name for it Allright, good job, greg.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah all right, so tell, tell some people about
Trank, and if you're Wanting toknow more about fentanyl or just
curious about what we talkedabout, go back to episode number
two, back in February Of 2023.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That breaks down fentanyl to itself, not Trank
fentanyl.
Yeah, just fentanyl Just byitself, what to do someone's
ODing, kind of similar, but itgives a lot of good details.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So and just a lot of good information, just.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, good information in general.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
So All right, well, wow, thank you so much, jesus,
for this episode.
It's been wonderful.
You all remember that you arenot alone and we'll see you next
time.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
All right.
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