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But for right now, since I had alittle extra time, I want to
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work on this one right here because I did not have any yard
work or anything to do this weekend.
We're going to jump in the storyof the case that is a little bit
crazy and insane. Imagine you're being a Marine
that is a veteran. You served your country.
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You have married a woman that issupposed to be of the faith that
you are in. You begin to have children with
this person and you also find a pastor that arrives at your
church that is not only charismatic but is also very
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knowledgeable in the word. Y'all become real good friends.
What happens when your friend wants the life that you have?
What happens when your idol become your wife?
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And how do you handle it when itgets to the point that it takes
your life and changes the rest of your family's life upside
down? Well, we're going to talk about
this in this episode here with three of the players.
First player is going to be Randy Stone.
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Randy Stone is our victim. The next player in this is going
to be Teresa Stone, who is the victim's wife and the
perpetrator and murderer is going to be Pastor David Love.
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Excuse me, former Pastor David Love.
So with that being started, let's jump into this.
Randy and Teresa Stone had knowneach other practically
practically their whole lives. And with that being stated, let
me show you who they are. Let's put that on screen right
quick, guys, because I don't want to just jump into something
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that you don't know who it is. So let's see.
Going to share this. All right, so as you see here,
this is the lovely, lovely couple, Randy and Teresa Stone.
Now, like I said, they had knowneach other practically their
whole lives. They grown up together in the
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northeastern part of Kansas City, but they had lost contact.
So when Randy joined the Marines, the two connect.
And when he returned from service in 1990, they were
married the same year. The couple was married in the
church that Teresa had grown up in, New Hope Baptist Church in
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Independence, MO. Following their wedding, the
Stones became very involved in the church, with Teresa working
in the kitchen and singing in the choir.
Randy was an investment of the church as well, but he truly
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became a devoted follower in 1999.
That's when Pastor David Love came to New Hope Baptist Church.
Now, let me show you this character here, right?
Find him right here for you. And this right here is Pastor
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David Love. Now, here's the thing, all
right. The reason why Randy became so
enamored by David Love, Pastor David Love at the time, is
because the man was articulate. The man was charismatic and had
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a great deal of knowledge of theBible and knew how to interpret
the Bible in a way that would keep you engaged.
And the women of the church found him attractive,
especially, you know, any of thefemale members.
Because when you are a minister like David Love, you have to
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come off with some type of charisma, some type of
attraction to keep everyone engaged when you are supposed to
be given the word kind of helps.So either way it goes, Randy and
David became fast friends because of this all right, I'm
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talking about best friends to the point that Randy began
serving as his financial officerat the church.
Now Randy called Pastor Love, one of the most influential
people in his life. Randy also started very much
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getting involved in interpretation of the Baptist
Christianity that passed a little preach.
And not only that, Pastor Love also wanted people to be engaged
in that Christianity because he challenged the congregation to
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stay strong in their faith. Now, I want y'all to understand
that this is a Southern Baptist church, even though it is in the
Midwest, this type of Southern Baptist church that I'm Speaking
of is very conservative. They're very, how can I put this
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reserved? You know, it's not like a
Pentecostal church. People going to be speaking in
tongues and running up and down down the church and acting
crazy. This is more like of the Spirit
of God hits you, you may shed some tears in silence, you may
praise God while you're on your knees in general, while it's
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time to do prayer. Or you may just go with a smile
and come to the minister, shake his hand and say thank you
minister for that serving. That's what type of people we're
dealing with. OK, so, and you gotta remember
too, this, especially in the late 90s, OK, they really wasn't
feeling all that praise dance and all that stuff going on.
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So, you know, you got to keep itreal conservative and straight
to the point. Now, Randy loved a challenge and
he was competitive and he was competitive.
I mean, that was just his natureand he used that easily from not
only in the church, he did it inthe athletic field and also to
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his own office. OK.
And it actually what made him successful, so successful that
when he opened his own agency with Farmers Insurance, it
became one of the best agencies in the region, especially with
his wife Teresa working in the office with him as a customer
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service Rep. And then she also became a
licensed agent. So at the time, they were like
the Super couple went to church that their own business life is
good now. Teresa was always down to hold
things properly at the office soRandy could be out in the public
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because he was the face of the ages.
He was the one meeting with the clients.
He was the one fostering the relationships with farmers
Corporate office. It was here at these at their
office. It was just off of I-70 and
Nolan Rd. in Independence, MO. Now this is where Teresa noticed
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something was wrong on March 31st, 2010.
Side note, March 31st, that's mybirthday.
Man, that's crazy, ain't it? See, that afternoon, Teresa
pulled into the parking lot. She got next to Randy's Malibu
and it was like the only other car in the line.
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And she looked up to the building and she saw that the
blinds in the office were closed.
She knew that was odd because she had opened them that morning
and Randy only closed those blinds unless it is the evening
time and he is gone for the day.So she entered the office and
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she calling out Randy name. You know like any other wife
would do. No answer Randy.
Where you at baby? Where you at Randy?
You know how women do. You know what I'm saying honey?
Where you at Randy? And then she went into his
office. There's no Randy.
Then she went down the hall to her office, still screaming.
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Randy, where are you? I'm looking for you.
And there on the floor next to her desk was Randy.
I mean, that blood was scatteredacross the furniture and the
walls. It was like a trickle of blood
that had run out of his ear and had begun to dry.
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He just laid in this puddle of blood and you could just see
split her bone and brain matter.I mean, his eyes were just black
like there's no life there. And his lips were just blue.
Teresa, she all going upset. She called his name.
Randy. Randy, hey, wake up, wake up,
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wake up. You know, she's doing all of
that trying to get him to respond, but it was not
happening. So she had to reach for the
phone and called her parents. She told them that Randy had
been shot and that she needed them to come to the office.
And then she called 911. Now let's pause for a minute.
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Now that is a little weird to me.
Usually when you see your spouseon the floor, blood everywhere,
your brain matter splattered andstuff, you would want to not
call no one else but 911. You want to get them to come in.
You want them to go save your beloved's life.
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But in this case, this is not what happened.
Teresa called her parents first.Again, very, very, very off key.
So she told the dispatcher that she needed emergency crews and
she had just found her husband on the floor of her office.
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OK, unresponsive. But when the dispatcher asked
her if she knew what was wrong with her husband, curiously, she
gave him some different answer than she had given her parents.
He's been shot, OK? He's been.
I don't know. There's blood everywhere.
I mean, it's coming out his ear,she told the dispatcher.
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The dispatcher tried to calm Teresa and told her to wait
outside until emergency crews arrived.
The first on the scene happened to be a member of the church.
He ran inside quickly and determined that Randy was dead.
Then he came outside to deliver the news to Teresa.
She cried, she was yelling when then she collapsed in the
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officer's office. Y'all know how they do?
As more emergency crews and police officers arrived on the
scene, so did the church members.
So again, when Teresa called herparents, they had sent off the
church phone tree. You know you got Kim Love, which
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is Pastor Love's wife. She on the scene, she consoling
Ceresa. So within 1/2 an hour earlier
than everyone expected, anyone expected Pastor Love shows up
and he was there. Now you would think that Pastor
Love being the pastor, being charismatic like he is, would
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have went and said, well, let mego to my parishioner here.
She just lost her husband, you know, let me, let me let me go
ahead on here and try to consoleher.
I'm gonna drop my mouth. Shut up.
Let me let me try to console her.
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But that's not what he did, which was again, very off
putting, even for me. Pastor Love stood calmly at a
distance and just watched as investigators went in and out of
the insurance office. Now you got people everywhere.
You got church, remember? You got family members, you got
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first responders, you got detectives.
Then it's a chaotic scene you like.
Again, you would think that him being a pastor of the church
that he would go console the family, but it's like it wasn't
like that. It was a weird moment.
You know, he hadn't he had a chance while the investigation
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is going on to get closer to Reese after he observed all this
chaos going on goes in whisper and Teresa ear.
Get rid of that track folk. Now I want y'all to remember
this is going to be something tothat we're going to get there.
So. And he also stated if the police
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asked you about Randy's gun, tell them he sold it three
months ago. This is the advice that came
from the loving pastor while allthe chaos is going on.
So Detective Keith Rose Warren was the lead detective on this
case, all right. And he felt a connection to
Randy Stone, almost a medium like Randy Rose.
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Warren was a veteran, having served 20 years in the Army.
It was an immediate kinship. And let me tell you about that,
whether you're in the Army, you're in the Marines and the
Coast Guard or even the Air Force.
We as veterans, we might be fromdifferent branches, but we have
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the same agenda that is to keep our loved ones safe while you
guys in the US of A sleep peacefully or do your daily
operations without being disturbed.
We're the ones on the front lineand we understand that and
everybody plays a role. You don't even have to be in the
front line to see action or livefire.
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You could be someone that works in the personnel office or you
could be someone that's a cook, or you could be someone that
just does logistics as in makingsure people got supplies and the
things they need to go out and complete the mission.
Your role is just as essential. So that's why we have that
connection with our fellow military personnel.
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So don't think just because someone didn't see no live
action or didn't do any spontaneous amount of tours to
Iraq back-to-back that they are this weak, ineffective person in
the military. They play their part.
I promise you. I promise you, so get it back to
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what I was saying. He saw that Randy life was so
was not so different than his own and he had made a promise
that he going to solve this whodunit case for his military
brother. A cursory grand glance of the
office revealed something big todetect the Rose horn.
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Randy Stone knew and trusted hiskiller.
See there was no sign of a stroke at the office, not even a
hand of a minor altercation and the robbery was ruled out as a
motive when there was over $150.00 in cash was just was
found just sitting on a desk in one of the offices.
The other side note, you gotta remember this in the 2000 and
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10s people are not really using cash happened their debit cards
like that still, you still got people still doing things with
cash and having cash on them or in their person.
So it is a lot different than what it is today where everybody
is got everything digitalized with the, you know, you got
digital currency. So Randy Wallet was still in his
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pocket. A random shooting in a small
office on the busiest stretch ofroad and Independence Dee is
seen like a likely alternative to the detective either.
No, this was a targeted attack. What a missed opportunity to say
that this was personal. Now, detectives found a gun at
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the office, right? But it didn't match the spent
shell case they found next to Randy's body.
See, the gun they found was a 38caliber ruler, while the shell
casing belonged to a larger gun,a 40 caliber Glock.
While investigators were still at the office looking for clues,
2 detectives sat down with Teresa Stone at police
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headquarters to go over what happened that day, you know, to
see if she had any insight and The Who could have wanted to
possibly kill her husband. And she was like, could I get
away for a second? But anyway, when they went to do
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this interview. Things were strange from the
beginning, right? So when detectives asked Teresa
if she could account for her whereabouts that day during the
time that Randy was shot, she could down to the minute and she
had the receipts to proof. All right, That's already a red
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flag. When you being interrogated by
the police, you never give them more than what they didn't ask
for. If they need, if they say, hey,
I need proof that you was in those places, then I could see
you, you know, possibly having some receipts.
But if they asked for that, don't be volunteering it because
right now you already making yourself look suspect.
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Then she was like, well, I was at the gas station.
I left there at 1014 and here's my receipt for that.
And then I went to Marshall. I was there until 11:47.
You see what I'm getting with this?
This is not looking good so far.And so detectives are like, OK,
no one in this planet is not just going to come out here and
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just stop busting out and detailing a time like this and
passing out receipts. You know, it seemed like to them
that she was trying to create analibi.
And that's when detectives askedTeresa about the gun they found
in the office. They actually, if it was the
only gun that Randy owned. And she said, yeah, she was
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pretty sure was the only one he had.
And when they pressed about the possibility of him owning a
larger gun, a Glock, as they hadbeen told by his friends, she
said she hadn't seen that gun inprobably like, a year or so.
So she figured he must have soldit.
And they're like, yeah, OK. Then that questions turn to the
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state of their marriage. And that's when Teresa told the
detectives when they had been tied recently because they made
investments in the business to grow it.
But their relationship was strong and their marriage was
better than ever. Are we about to get that soon,
guys? Stay tuned.
By that marriage. They were very much in love.
So that's when the detectives brought up about a letter they
found torn up into nine pieces in the bottom of the trash can
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at the office. It was a love letter written to
Teresa on her birthday. So that was like, OK, who would
write love letters on their birthday?
Unless it's like your spouse, right?
Because, you know, maybe your spouse might have wanted to make
it a special occasion or make ita little bit more personal,
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right? Well, there's one problem with
that. The detectives was like
comparing notes and the handwriting of Randy at the
time, I guess with paperwork youalready had done in that office
and the writing on that paper and it was nowhere near the type
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of handwriting that matched it. Randy, her husband.
So that's when the police was like fresh to about it.
And she's like, oh, I don't I don't have no idea what to talk
about. I don't know about no letter on
come on, no letter that what shetold investigators.
So that was then they say you hold on tight right here.
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And so why they got her sitting in tight, right?
This woman screaming like she's like really not really nervous.
And that's when they got her on video saying, oh, great, I
forgot about that. So they get with a copy of this
letter and they said that thing and they get it on on tape,
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right? And well, when they come back in
and got they have a photocopy ofthis letter and that they now
pieced it back together. So they, you know, was like, see
what she's going to say. She glanced over real quickly
and then that's when she come upwith this story about it must
have been for my secret admirer.I forgot about that.
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It was left in my car and I brought it into my office.
And then I've turned around. I saw it again.
I just tore it up because I didn't want my husband to find
out and think on that something was going on.
OK. Right.
Yeah. So the teddy was like, well, let
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her leave the day with, you know, the civil hope that they
believed her secret of my onlineand you know, and I'm going to
give you a snippet of what the letter had said.
OK, It says happy birthday love in all caps.
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You are very precious to my heart.
I care for you more than anyone on earth.
I'm not in control of things yet.
But when we are fully together, your birthday will always be
exciting, full of surprises, romantic and all about loving
you. You are the sin of my world.
I praise you, I adore you, I'm blessed by you, I need you, I
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love you. I remember 9 years ago telling
you I had something for you in my office.
It was me I wanted to give you. Me that kiss you took and then
you gave me one back. I felt like it was my birthday.
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Meanwhile, while they had let her go trying to figure this
thing out and everything. But detectives have believed
that they had uncovered the secret that Teresa Stone was
hiding, that everyone else had informed them about, that there
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was a long rumored affair slash open secret at New Hope Baptist
Church, that they believed the author of that love letter was
no other than David Love. That's right, It was an open
secret. Now over the next couple of
weeks, detectives focus their effort on finding proof of the
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affair. They believe what's going on
between David and Teresa and this rumors of this affair was
all over the place throughout the church.
Again, open secret. I mean, if I was talking about
it, I mean, you can't hide it for 9 years.
Now the police started thinking,OK, Randy had this, not this 45
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Glock. Apparently Teresa does not know
where it's at, right? She said she ain't seen it in a
year or or or some change. Police was like, but he got his
38. That's the smaller caliber in
his office. Now, I think that they start to
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think that somehow, someway, David Love had access to his
best friend slash most loyal parishioner Randy Stone's gun.
OK. Now they also started thinking
that maybe this is what David might have used to kill Ray, but
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they needed to know how to provehow Teresa was tied up in this
plot because they knew, OK, Teresa involving this, all
right? No way.
No way. We cannot get this type of
situation with the good pastor to execute something this
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devious unless someone else close to Randy put it in motion.
And it had to be the wife because everyone's talking about
this alleged affair that's been going on for nine years.
Nine years. Long time to be getting all cozy
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with the actually 10 years. Let me rephrase that 10 years
because at that time is 10 years, 10 years, mom.
And by politics, let me correct that.
So at this at this time, Randy'sfuneral was held at New Hope
with the pastor Love delivering A heartfelt eulogy to his
longtime best friend. Man, oh man, no.
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They say keep your enemies close, but your friends close.
Boy, I'd say it's disgusting, man.
It's crazy. Now, some of his eulogy part
was, yeah, was we weep not just because of the separation of our
loved one, but because of the questions that death preens.
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Questions like why? Why him?
Why not? And that's what he answered.
So after that service and stuff,it was the things that Teresa
had done in like the day of the murder that originally had
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detectives cast a suspicion on her actual and on actual role in
the murder, possibly of her husband.
OK, the accounting of her time down to the minute and did not
sit well with the detectives because they're like, why are
you still? Why are you so prepared to give
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us a minute by minute of what you were doing that day with
receipts? I mean, no one does that.
I mean, you know, you would actually let us do our job and
prove that after you said what you said and keep it going
unless we would ask right? Then they talked about they
looked at the car records that she had told her parents Randy
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had been shot and didn't say that to the dispatcher.
And then it was but it was what she wasn't doing after the
murder, you know, that caused suspicion to grow.
By April 20th, it's 30 weeks hadpassed, you know, Randy Stone
murder. And that's enough time to, you
know, get over your husband, I guess, right?
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In her mind, a typical person who you know, I'm saying had a
spouse that was murdered, I don't think they'll be trying to
move on in three weeks. You know, they're going to be
probably calling the detectives every day, multiple times a day,
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offered them tips, asking them if they had any leads like
follow-ups in those three weeks.She ain't called no detectives
at all. It was like she didn't want this
murder be solved. So detectives, like, OK, that's
another thing we gotta watch. So again, she's all in their
crosshairs. So they're working on this case.
They piercing together this theory about this affair.
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They're gathering evidence. And, you know, finally they're
like, we have to bring her in one more time and take a crack
out. So they decided to do that.
Detective Mr. Rose Warren asked her to come into the station for
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more question. He felt that she was going to be
the easier one of the two of this link of chain to break
under this kind of question. So he had her to come into the
station. He get he gets her to sign a
Miranda rape right. So that way he questioned
without any kind of legal representation because in his
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weeks he had put together like apretty good stack of
circumstantial evidence, but theprosecutors were not willing to
move forward because these evidence that he had collected
was not tangible. See, that's the thing about
prosecutors in a lot of these type of cases.
They need tangible evidence. They need the smoking gun, as in
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that Glock. They need that Glock.
That's another, that's another motive.
They're showing that are they going to need the alibis
dismantle? They're going to need like, you
know, property, cell phone coordinates where they were at.
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They just need something more than just a hunch because right
now they got circumstantial evidence in hunches.
So that's when Rose Warren decided that he's going to see
if he can get this confession out of her right about this
affair and what it led to. So starts out on investigation.
He hints about he goes and refocused right back on that
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love. Now, he was like Teresa, and
what you saying is true. If this was written by someone
that was infatuated with you andwe need to know who that is so
we can rule them out as a suspect.
But you know, Teresa, like, I don't know who that is.
I mean, it was a secret admirer.I was like it was literally left
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in the parking lot while I was, you know, doing my usual and
going to work. I don't know who put that there.
I mean, I don't know. OK, So he push it hard.
He start talking about quotes from the letter, things like I
praise you, I adore you, I'm blessed by you, Teresa.
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He said this sound like Christian verbiage, like someone
that goes to church. Teresa, did David love write
these letters? And that's when she's like, all
right, I mean, you know, he was like, I mean, it says we kiss.
Yeah, come on. And that was it.
Teresa Stones cracked it and said yes, She admitted he wrote
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the letters. And then she spilled all the
details about how they've been having an affair for almost 10
years. See, it has started out as
meeting like once or twice a week, you know, for, for
counseling. That's how it started out with
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right, spiritual counseling. Then it turned from spiritual
counseling to sex. And then it, it escalated to
where they were having sexual relations 2 and three times a
day. And then, you know, she had to
keep up faces with the husband at home, you know, I'm saying,
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and I guess it was exhausting. So then she also talked about
the the the sex was getting so excessive between her and David.
And then, you know, she's also taking care of the husband in
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between that in 2005, she definitely knew that she was
carrying David's child. So what she did was she revealed
after she knew for sure she was pregnant.
You know, she, I guess talking over David, David love was like,
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you know, we can't, we can't getthis out.
I'm the pastor. You know, they find out I'm
having a baby out of wedlock andadultery, man, I'm done.
This church kicked me out fasterthan I could say hello.
Listen, just go in and tell yourhusband that is his now that's
the problem. See, Randy had went and got a
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vasectomy because he just didn'twant any more kids after he had
the kids he had with his wife Teresa and his previous marriage
in his previous relationship, I would say marriage relationship.
So he was like, yo, I ain't wantno more kids, man.
You know, I'm good. So Teresa just told like, yo,
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I'm pregnant. It gotta be yours.
I ain't been with nobody else. So, you know, it's always that,
that 3% to 1, the 1 to 3% chancethat a man could get a vasectomy
and it can still, you can still be able to, you know, shoot a
live round. So I guess David took, I mean,
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Randy took the faith and was like, you know, I feel like my
wife, there's got to be a sign of God.
I'm going to stick by and you know, we going to go ahead on
and we going prepare for the baby, but she lost the baby.
Now, we're going to stop right here because this is a very long
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a case because I got to go through a lot of stuff with this
case because it's going to probably be a two-part series.
The next part of this series, we're going to talk about how
the police zero in even more on Teresa to make her break and
tell everything about the plot. How David Love, Pastor David
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Love not only gets wrapped up into the part, but also does a
shocking move before he faces the consequences from his
congregation from getting kickedout of the church for all of his
dirty secrets. And then we'll also go into the
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aftermath of the trial, the sentencing, and where all the
players that are alive are now. So again, TuneIn, tell me what
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