June 18, 2025 • 56 mins
Summary
This podcast episode delves into the chilling life and crimes of Pee Wee Gaskins, a notorious serial killer from South Carolina. The host, Joel, shares personal reflections and insights into Gaskins' brutal actions, his victims, and the psychological aspects of his criminal behavior. The conversation explores the impact of Gaskins' crimes on the community and the evolution of his notorious reputation, culminating in a discussion about justice and the ongoing relevance of cold cases in today's society.
Takeaways
Pee Wee Gaskins was a notorious serial killer from South Carolina.
He committed heinous crimes, including the murder of his own niece.
Gaskins had a reputation for being a small-time punk who acted tough.
His actions were often motivated by personal grievances and a desire for control.
The podcast aims to shed light on the psychological aspects of his behavior.
Gaskins' crimes went largely unnoticed due to societal attitudes towards race and gender.
He was known for his infamous hearse, which he used to intimidate others.
The episode discusses the impact of his crimes on the victims' families and the community.
Gaskins' story is a reminder of the importance of justice and the ongoing relevance of cold cases.
The podcast encourages listeners to engage with the content and share their thoughts.
Sound Bites
"He was a predator."
"He was a sexual deviant."
"He killed his own niece."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections
01:40 Pee Wee Gaskins: The Beginning of a Dark Journey
04:28 The Crimes of Pee Wee Gaskins: A Closer Look
08:29 The Aftermath of Violence: Victims and Consequences
13:07 The Infamous Hearse and Continued Crimes
18:01 The Downward Spiral: More Murders and Motives
25:56 The Final Acts: The Death of Martha Diggs
26:49 The Dark Truth Behind Martha Diggs
29:58 The Tragic Case of Doreen Dempsey
38:44 Pee Wee's Criminal Enterprises
44:37 The Assassination of Silas Yates
51:16 The Ongoing Legacy of Pee Wee Gaskins
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another edition.
You guessed that you can't make this BS.
Oh, Joeho. Joel Davis back at you live
again, a man. Hope everybody had a good
(00:21):
Father's Day. I had to push back an exclusive
segment that we're going to start having on Fridays.
It was supposed to be released last Friday, right?
I was supposed to be called Black Friday.
When we talk on black, on Black crime stories, true crime
stories, most of is probably going to be involving, you know,
(00:44):
murder and mayhem, but just fromin the black community.
But I don't know. I think that I was working on
it. And then we had a family of
murders, so I had to stop and get that family emergency
handled. And then I had to do like, I
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think four or five tapes before I got it right because I just
had a crazy weekend. But thank God that the Lord has
came through and made that situation a little better.
It was a OK Father's Day little somber, but you know, God made
everything a whole lot better. So getting back to the situation
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that I wanted to tell you guys about, you know, about to today
is that we are going to be discussing the third part of Pee
Wee Gasket's life story here where we talk about the crimes
he committed and how he has literally terrorized the people
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in the PD area of South Carolina.
Those are what we will be discussing as well.
I have a whole lineup for everyone to be prepared for
that's coming out of this podcast.
I think I got like a good 20 something stories that I can
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possibly work on to keep everybody engaged.
So I'm pretty proud of that. I've been putting a lot of
blood, sweat and tears. I know I'm still a small
podcast. Hopefully in the future I'll
blow up, maybe get a major deal.You never know, you know?
But I am trying to network with other podcasters that does this
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genre. I did not know that.
I was told that I'm actually oneof the few males, black males in
this genre that talks about all crime and also black on black
crime. Kind of made me feel real good
and everything else. I know a lot of people are
starting to ask me with Joel, ifthis podcast blow up, are you
(03:05):
going to do like everybody else?Are you going to do like a live
tour where you go to different cities and do lives?
I don't know yet. It's going to have to be based
upon the lot of logistics involved in that, you know what
I'm saying? It's going to be depending on
how everything goes with the podcast, how successful it is.
My dream would be to do this full time and be the breadwinner
(03:29):
of my family, to be in my own business and my own LLC on this
type of thing. But at the same time, this is
just a hobby at this point. So we'll see.
But if it does, like I said, my manager possibly will be my
wife. That's my girl.
She knows my dreams, she knows my goals, and she always
(03:49):
sacrifice every day to make sureI'm happy in this.
Listen, man, you got a maid out there that sacrifice themselves
to make you happy. And they don't mind sacrificing
themselves to make you happy because they know at they're
going to get a return on their investment of you showing them
gratitude and showing them loyalty.
You better hold on to that. That's a.
(04:11):
Beautiful. Thing to have man, a lot of
people don't have that all rightenough of me reeling and
rattling about that. Let's talk about pee wee gaskets
where we left off that now Pee wee Oh my God, your boy pee wee
man he didn't already knocked off his niece and her friend,
right As you know now he is starting to get into the thick
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of his serial killer MO. But the thing about pee wee
Gaskins he really didn't have anMO because if you'll notice he's
all over the place when it comesto doing these crimes.
So we're going to pick up what we left off with that.
We're going to talk about how hedid what he did with his niece
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and continue from there all right so let's get back up here.
See here. So we're going to read, we're
going to revisit what happened with Janice just in case you
didn't get it from the last episode.
So this is what he has done. So 1970, like I said before, on
the last podcast, Pee Wee was 37and here he was with with
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Patricia R Brooks and his niece,Janice Kirby.
All right, now, according to PeeWee ran the Janice and Patricia
one night at the local burger joint.
He found out Janice had drunk a few too many beers and it passed
instead and it passed down to the girls they were with and
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they asked if Pee Wee could takecare of the girls would take
could take care of his niece andPatricia and he obliged.
So Pee Wee wonderhood to his car.
But Janet's friend Pee Wee figured she better go along and
make sure Janice was OK because people's like, yo, I would take
her, but yo, I need you to help me out because she's really
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messed up now. So, you know, she goes along
with them and everything else. So here he's taking them back to
his house and Pee Wee like, well, let me go get y'all girl
some coffee, Try to sober up Janice.
So he tried to sober up Janice. Janice drink this coffee and
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wind up just throwing up all over herself.
So Pee Wee sees this and like, yo, listen, I could take you
back to my place. You can get cleaned up.
So all of a sudden people get this bright idea, OK, that he
was going to go ahead on and rape them instead of taking him
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them back to his house. So he took them out to an old
rundown tenant house that he used to have someone rent and he
knew that it's out in the country.
It's a bunch of woods. He didn't got these girls guard
down because you know he's unclePee Wee, right?
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Janice feel like her uncle wouldnever do nothing like that.
And all of a sudden he pulls a knife on Janice and he put it up
to her throat but then he fell cause Patricia slammed Pee Wee
in the back of the head with a 2by 4.
So the two of the girls run out of the wood.
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Pee Wee's tough, OK? He was like all right, y'all hit
me with a 2 by 4, don't you worry.
Don't catch you motherfuckers. Oh, go catch you.
So he start running after them with the gun in his hand.
You know what I'm saying? Shots at the girls.
In fact, excuse me, not at the girls.
He actually fired a shot. In the air and after he did
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that, the the girls stopped Basically, he just scared him to
death and he's like, yo, you going back to this house.
So he marched the girls back to the house.
All right. And then because he wasn't doing
after another, they try to you know, the girls again try to
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fight for their lives because they were like, all right, we
know what's about to happen. But he we got the upper hand
again and knocked out both girlswith his pistol.
Now he got him unconscious, halfdead.
And then that's when you like, you know what, I'm just going to
go in head on and get rid of them now.
So again, this is the type of serial killer thinking that you
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that we're used to when it comesto serial killers.
Once they feel like you are a threat and you already that made
it to the point that, you know, messed up their plan, they want
to get rid of you. They don't have time to play
nice guy. So after that as he knocked out
the girls, he we left Janice at the house and he went on ahead
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and locked Patricia in the trunkof his car.
Then he went to that vacant house.
Now he knew that he had a septictank at that at that place and
he managed to get the cement lidoff the top.
This is where he said what he did next.
He planned it to crack her school open and make sure she
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was dead, but he said he decidedthat that would make too much of
a big mess. So I just loaded into the sludge
and waited until there wasn't any more bugs.
There's no no push the cement lead back into place.
And the only reason why we know this is is 1 is true is because
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six years later he we going to lead him to that spot.
So that way the body of Patriciaall Brooks was and that was just
brutal. Now anyway, he we got back to
his niece Jack, which had died from her injuries because he had
beat up so bad with the pistol knocking him unconscious and and
everything. So he decided that he was going
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to take her out back and bury her and cover the ground with
pine needles. And her body was never found.
And that's because Pee Wee Gaston never told me what tenant
house he, he buried her at. But anyway, he told the Kid Folk
told everybody that the girls had were planning to run away
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and that they were asking questions about Kid Folk
California. And he told everybody, including
his people, the family, his sister, that, you know, he let
them out and they got in the carwith some boys.
He believed we're from Orangeburg and let me do it in
Pee Wee for, you know, they got out of the car on Orangeburg.
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And lastly, we seen him, you know, they went down the kids up
town and yeah, yeah, right next to living with, which is the
last time I seen. So everybody just believed kids
run away because who wants to believe they brother we kill,
they kill his niece. Somebody wants to believe that,
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right? So they're like, alright, you
know, and her friend, you know, they must have ran away because
this is the 70s. That's what everybody was doing
anyway, you know, young girls and guys did not want to be home
anymore. Listen to their parents rules.
The first thing they did was gettheir bag of stuff, back it up,
start walking down the road and start thumbing.
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They're using their thumb to catch a ride and they will get
to the destination. They felt like they could make a
new start and go from there. That's what a lot of young
people wind up doing. Back in the day, in the 70s and
some parts of the early 80s, that was the norm.
Everybody did that all across the country.
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I know you're probably saying that's crazy because today and
age, hitchhiking is like playingdevil is like rolling the dice
and possibly getting assaulted or murdered.
But back then, times was different.
Everybody was taught that everybody was pretty much good
and nobody didn't have time to be trying to hurt you and stuff.
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That's how these serial killers got away with so many murders
because everybody was unsuspected.
So anyway, over the next five years, Pee Wee has begun to
doing a lot of killing, OK? And I'm going to read some of
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the victims that he has already killed later on into this story
so you can get an idea on the onwhen we get ready to wrap it up.
Now, this is like I said, this is confirmed 12.
So the reason why these two girls went missing and there was
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really not a lot of coverage on that case is because another
high profile case jumped in the labs of local law enforcement.
See a girl named 13 year old Peggy.
Cut now. Cut now.
Father was a state senator. And of course, when she was
missing, you know, all the resources went to her and even
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more were dedicated when Peggy was found murdered two days
later. Now, a guy named Junior Pierce
went down for that crime, but hewe claim he was the one who
actually was responsible. So that's always been a toss up.
That's been a controversy about that case for years, that this
guy was evidently falsely charged for that crime.
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But again, Pee Wee said he did it.
And not to mention Pee Wee original name was Junior before
he started going by Pee Wee. Because of his size.
So I'm going to keep going rightalong here.
So again, this is on the final truth on that book that he
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claimed that he was the one thatthat killed Peggy and he said he
did that because she sassed him Now when they said sass and that
means she talked back to him whenever he basically was
engaging talking with her. Yeah.
So. He said that he stood over this
for like 2 days about this girl just getting all out of whack
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with him, this Peggy girl. And he was in Charleston at the
time and he was sitting at the Crab too.
And people said that he decided to do something about this girl.
So he decided to set up an alibifor himself by riding a tour on
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a tourist cabin, by renting, I mean a tourist cabin in
Charleston. He made sure everyone in the
regular bar in Charleston saw him there.
He said he didn't drove. Yeah.
And then he drove well to the bar man.
And when he went to the bar, he wanted to make sure that people
saw him sitting on his favorite stool.
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Then he liked to be sniffing hisfavorite flower and he just
wanted everybody to know that hewas there.
So he wanted to make sure that people was like, yeah, I saw
people eat people right now. He ain't no way he did what he
y'all think he did with that girl.
He was right in here with us now.
He decided that he done got himself with an alibi.
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He drove back to Soap. Where both he and Peggy, the
girl that we were talking about in this story, was also residing
South Carolina AKA Sumter County.
He found Peggy, kidnapped her, tortured her, then left her body
in the middle of the road to be found.
He said the reason why he left her instead of sinking her in
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the swamp as he had almost did all the other bodies was to
prevent cops from accidentally stumbling upon other bodies that
Pee Wee had killed in their search.
So I don't know this sound like to me that he's telling the
truth. I don't know how true it is, but
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it sound like to me Pee Wee is really telling the truth about
this story and everything now Pee Wee was working on.
Now This is why everybody also think that this is actually true
too because Pee Wee was working on a house on the same St. that
Peggy lived on and that house was on the way back and forth to
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where Peggy walked to go to school.
Now they also know that Pee Wee Pee Wee was was questioned and
investigated for Pee Wee for Peggy all cut now murder but
despised Pee Wee already being avery recent suspect in the
disappearance of two other girlsaround that same age.
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This is what one officer said about him.
He weaves a small town pump who talks and acts tough to get
women to notice him, but that's all he just talked.
So you're just a horrible policeofficer is what I'm thinking.
Because if the man is already around young girls and there are
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I think he's cool or like him ordrawn to him, there's a good
chance that he's probably has done something sinister.
No one just a grown man just hangs out with little girls
without sinister attentions likesomeone like pee wee gasps, not
a predator. So so anyway, we're now going to
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go to the next part. We go get my transcript.
So now I'm going to drop my Dick.
I'm I'm going to drop my mouth. Shower.
Hold on. So now Pee Wee don't switched up
now. Now Pee Wee is now infamous with
driving this hearse and we're still in the earliest area.
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Now he is basically a shade treemechanic and he says that he's
doing this shade tree mechanic light work for a stock car drop
when he ran into a felt. Now he knew that driving this
old Cadillac hearse and he was having a hard time selling it.
So this is how on Peewee acquired the hearse.
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Anyway, let me retrace my stiltsif you want to know how he got
this infamous hearse. So pee Wee picked it up for the
for next to nothing from him andsay, hey, man, I'd love to have
that car. I think that'd be that'll be a
cool vehicle. It's it's different.
So when people see him drive thecar, he would tell people that
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he got a hearse to drive dead bodies of people that he knocked
off and put in his private cemetery.
People just thought it was a joke.
You know, when they hear this from Pee Wee, they would laugh
and say, Oh my God, this guy's hilarious.
And my man riding around here would have heard somebody.
He got a private cemetery. He taking people to it.
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You know, people, it's the 70s. People think that there's no
such thing as someone really crazy.
You know, they have a hearse to drive it to represent that
they're basically killing peopleand and putting them in a
personal cemetery. Now still, like I said, people
laughing about this not now remembering maybe or forgot that
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this is the same man that was responsible for the
disappearance of two young girlsnot a year before and one of
them was his niece. OK, so then again, he's still
going in and out of jail, in andout of jail.
And he would decided that it's time to get into some other
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business. Even though he still loves to do
the killing on the side, he wanted to have a chance to have
multiple cars. In fact, he wanted to not buy
them. He want the five distance 5
finger discount system. So he started a cartel friend,
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so, you know, he can do the car stripping that he's so good at
and, you know, sell the parts, make money, rinse and repeat.
There is rumors that people are coming after him for the
disappearance of these two girls, but you know, he's hiding
and keeping it, leaving it low key.
But while the credible people are trying to pin this on him,
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the local police, they still nottaking pee Wee gasket series.
The jokes and people talking about oh, he talking about he
rides a hurry. He's got a private, he got a
private cemetery. You know, they're like whatever
man, it's Pee Wee. You know that dude ain't right
in the head ain't you know, he just small time, you know, slow
acting punk that's just has no business that has no idea of
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what he's talking about or what he's doing.
So again, while Pee Wee got thisring going on, he killed someone
else. In 1971 he killed a woman named
Martha Dicks. Now this is again the 3rd murder
and his first racially motivatedone.
Now here's the strange thing about Martha Dicks.
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Martha Dicks was the older blacklady that used to do some work
for Pee wee. Now they said that she would do
work for pee wee and stuff and pee wee she would help pee wee
and they. Said in a way.
Now, this is just like I said what I've heard from people
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around my way and people that know about the case and said
that Pee Wee and this woman had a relationship on the low going
on. Like when Pee Wee needed to, you
know, get his rocks off. She was there to, you know,
provide that service and he'll throw a little money and she go
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away. He go his way.
Now there was a rumor that one time Miss Martha Dix got
pregnant for Pee Wee, but she got an abortion.
Now that's what I heard. I've been trying to research and
find out if that was credible ornot, but I've never found no
credible information about this.But that's what was told to me
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from the Grapevine from the Carolinas in the same area that
Pee Wee Gasses was from. But either way it goes, I just
know that that in his final reveal about this woman was that
she was also Martha Dix was a part of the women sexual
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liberation movement of the 70s. You know how women started
becoming take charge free to show how sexual liberated they
was and didn't care who knew about their sexual preferences
and lifestyles anymore. You know, the rise of the LBGT.
She was part of that because shewas also bisexual and sometimes
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she would go by the name of Clyde and that was I guess when
she wants to be with a woman andbe masculine or whatever.
Now, I also heard that Martha was very popular too around the
around the guy that she would talk big shit and stuff.
And, you know, she was a nice looking woman and, you know, she
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was just didn't mind speaking her mind.
And not to mention too a lot of the people in that town grew up
with Martha. So Martha was like one of the
dudes, one of the, you know, shewas like the regular folk around
here. Oh, that Martha, you know, and
she, you know, she would just whatever they got going on,
barbecues, special events, food,whatever, Martha was a part of
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that. She was really like I said she
was really very close in Pee Wee's circle of friends and the
criminals they was hanging around with.
Now the reason why Martha got targeted by Pee Wee cause Pee
Wee said that she would always give him the most shit and would
always pick at him. You know, she would call him an
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elf because of his statue and everything else.
She would go to him and say stuff like, hey, Pee Wee, how's
Santa Claus doing? You know, she would be saying
stuff like tell Santa Claus whatI need for Christmas.
And Pee Wee just was not feelingit.
He was getting mad and mad and not dementia too.
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She would say stuff like how cold is the North Pole?
Man? I ain't never been there.
I mean, she always had jokes about this.
How? I mean she was just, this is how
she was, she liked to joke and and talk shit, but at the same
time there was also somewhat messing around too.
So anyway, he decided that enough was enough.
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I guess he knew that he'd been munching with Martha on the low
and she's still cracking these short people jokes and stuff
like that. He felt like it was time for her
to go. She was becoming more of a
nuisance than an acid. So he said that he lied to her
that he has some some cash and some drugs and some cash and for
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the medium at this tinted house where he does all his dirty DJ.
When she got there he got her drunk and high and then he
surprised her with handcuffs. I guess that he was trying to do
something kinky, I guess, with her to make her back
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comfortable, because I was I would be thinking that if she's
drunk and he surprised her with handcuffs, I think that he
probably said something to the effect of, you know, we going to
try something different and not,you know, how he we talk.
If you hear how he talking interviews, he talks so slow and
and methodical. And that's when he said that he
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killed her. And this is the way that he said
he did. He force fed her a soda spike
with pills, caused her to overdose and die.
Now my thing is, is he force fedher?
I think that's probably why he had a handcuff.
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He knew if I have a handcuff, she cannot do anything to stop
me 'cause she's so incapacitated.
I'm just trying to figure out how he kept her from kicking her
legs and stuff like that. Unless he handcuffed the legs
too and did it that way. That's the only thing I could
think of because again, Pee Wee is small in stature.
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So this tells you how the bolical this guy was.
He knew he couldn't fight you one-on-one because you're
probably a lot taller, lot stronger and quicker than he is.
So you have to put you in positions where you cannot move
and he'd get up hand. Now he never said what kind of
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pill he put in this woman's body, bone soda.
But he did said that after he did what he did with her that he
weighed her body down and put her into a Creek.
And they didn't find Martha until years later.
She was skeletal remains when they found her.
And even though they found theseskeletal remains near this Creek
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that he put her at, even to thisday, there is no positive ID of
that of skeletal remains being Martha Dix, which I think is
crazy because of the way DNA hasevolved.
There's got to be someone in herbloodline left.
I mean, I would think that they would have a genealogy
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assessment or take the DNA from those bones and do a genealogy
DNA analysis to find out if it'sreally her or not.
I mean, I don't know why they haven't done that yet.
I mean, that's what I I would have done, preserve the bones in
a way do I could get the DNA from it in the future.
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And yeah, that's what I would do.
So hopefully somebody on preserve and did that.
But this again, this was back inthe 70s and early 80s.
So again, he's tell the story about Martha Dixon final truth.
He we figured that it was a goodtime to juice himself up again
as a bad ass and then he talked about this another unconfirmed
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story about murdering a couple of gun runners in a deal going
back now he we told this fast tale of betrayal and entry.
Now he talked about he cut down to hardest nails gun runners
named Eddie and Bertie Brown andan assault rifle withdrawal type
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of situation. But anyway, they said that that
this is the story that he talkedabout and one of the unconfirmed
stories, the part in his book and what's crazy, but for real
though, the confirmed murders is6 of these people that he
murdered was people he was actually a criminal business
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with, which is even more bizarreand crazy.
I mean, to me that that's just about.
So now we're going to move on toDecember of 1973 where he
committed his fourth and 5th serious murder.
And this one right here is the worst of all because when I tell
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you this story here, if you're the type of person that you're
very sensitive about a young mother being hurt or murdered in
any kind of way, or the death ofa toddler or young child or any
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child, you may want to skip thisepisode altogether and wait for
me to release the next part thattalks about the trial of peewee
gases because this is about to get a little bit touchy.
So Doreen Dempsey in 19 in December 1973 was a single
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mother, and she knew Pee Wee through the carnival connections
he had made over the years and things of that nature.
But she actually was good friends with Pee Wee's wife,
which at this point, I think this probably is his fifth rock.
But you got to remember, Pee Weedon't care about all that
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because one thing about Pee Wee,if he's going to take you out,
he's going to take you out regardless of who your relation
is, because he already then tookout his own niece.
So, you know, everybody's fair game.
So Doreen Dempsey, she was a white lady all right, but she
had a 2 year old daughter with ablack man and she was praying
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again with another mixed child from another blood from her own.
I think from a different black guy now, what he told law
enforcement doing interrogation,that he killed Doreen for mixing
the races and he killed the little girl to spare what he
said was a life not worth living.
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You can't make this shit up. So that that was the final truth
on that one. And then he said on final truth
when he did, when he made his last book of of of confessing.
I don't know why I keep droppinghis mind my.
He said that. He said that it was race related
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because I guess he wanted to saywhatever he thought would be
logical enough for the for law enforcement to believe.
But yeah, he said he did that basically as a way to to make a
law enforcement satisfy law enforcement interrogation, which
I think is crazy that you would say something like that and
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everything else. But to me, I really think what
he said in the interrogation wasreally true because you got to
have some kind of hatred in yourheart to cook to a single mother
and her baby and also she being pregnant with an unborn, with a
child that hasn't been born yet.That's just yeah, I'm sorry, I
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have to go without. And then not to mention, too, he
said that he did that also because he thought he'd get
basically less time and he couldget out of jail.
Because here's the thing, though, this is 1970 S Carolina
and the world was changing and and it was a lot of social
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justice reform for race relations going so hard even in
the 70s. So I don't think that even if he
tried to play that game, that would have worked in South
Carolina. There would have been an uproar.
And plus, he also had done the ultimate on sin.
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He had killed his own niece. So I don't see this working out
his favor the way he was saying that.
I I really do believe that he meant what he said the first
time. You know, I think that he just
was just trying to blow smoke upsomebody's own behind.
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I mean, I ain't trying to be mean, I'm just being real.
Now from the new story he told for his book also was that
Doreen showed up at his house one night distraught, crying,
saying she couldn't take life inFlorence County as a mother. 2
mixed race kids anymore. So Pee Wee did took Doreen aside
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and told her he allowed her her kids to live in a trailer of his
in Charleston for free, but in return she had to do anything he
wanted sexually and she couldn'ttell anybody that Pee Wee was
taking care of her. He said that she had said it in.
And so Pee Wee told his wife that he was giving Doreena, her
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two year old daughter, a ride tothe bus station so she could
head to another city for a freshstart, new life.
And that was the last time Doreen and her baby were ever
seen. A lie.
Now I could actually see that being the truth.
And here's the thing, I really believe that he probably told
that Lady that she would have todo sexual favors for him.
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Because here's why I think that's true.
This is 1970 S Carolina. Not too many people are seen
with mixed kids in that area back then, or black and white
couples. And if you did see it, it was a
whole lot of hard looks. I really do believe that she was
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probably getting at her wits end.
She probably went to Pee Wee because she knew that he had a
lot of resources. He had probably, you know, all
kinds of of places that he couldput it at or knew she had.
He had property out of Florence County.
He probably told her. Yeah, You know, you get your
place at Charleston and I'll drive you to the, you know, and
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I don't think he said he won't drive her to the bus station.
I think he told her he won't drive her to Charleston.
And I think that when he got herin that car, that's when he
decided, no, you ain't going to Charleston, baby, you know, or
either there. I think that when he went there
or whatever was driving, he probably told her that he wanted
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intimate relations right then. And she probably told him no pee
wee, you know, I'm not comfortable doing that around my
child because the child is 2 years old or whatever.
And she might even told him that, well, when we get to
Charleston, you know, or, or whatever we can, we can seal the
deal then and start this up. And I think that that's when he
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got upset because he felt rejected because she would do it
right then. And then I think that's why he
did what he did to her. I don't think this was nothing
about this whole he did it on his own free will after he made
this promise to her for sex anytime he wanted, then decide
to knock off. I mean, you got to remember Pee
Wee was also a sexual deviant and sexual deviants, if they
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could get it right, then anytime, any place, they're not
going to mess that up because that's a, that's a, that's a
satisfy, that's being that satisfying their own ego.
And you got to remember he's a little sadistic too.
So yeah. So I really think that would
happen. I really do.
So anyway, Doreen Doreen's body two years later was found buried
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in a 2 foot deep grade under a sawdust pile nailed on Pee Wee's
house, and the baby was found stuffed in an old stump hole and
covered in dirt. It was crazy too, they said.
That was just so disturbed. And again, it was never
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investigated because, you know, people thought she left town.
And plus, nobody didn't really like Doreen because of the
situation of what Doreen had. She had a mixed baby and another
mixed baby. So again, that was frowned upon
very heavily. She had a mixed baby and
pregnant with another mixed babynow.
And I think they said it was from two different black men.
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So yeah, that was frowned upon back then.
So nobody was in line to try to be worried about this girl.
She was considered damage. Good.
So anyway, after this happened, what else happened again?
Phoebe went back to running his business with the card, with the
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card stripping stuff. And by doing so, Phoebe ran into
some trouble with his partners Jesse Ruth Trudy and Johnny
Sellers. Now Jesse Ruth Trudy which is a
woman. But on either way it goes.
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Jesse Trudy, ex-husband James Judy paid Pee Wee to kill Jesse
Trudy and Johnny Sellers becauseJohnny Sellers has stolen James
Judy's wife. You can't make this shit up.
It was $10,000 that was paid. Pee Wee claimed for him to do
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this and to also knock off her love, new love of Johnny
Sellers. But either way it goes.
James Judy went down for this murder because he got 10 years
because police believed that he had hired Pee Wee to commit the
murder. But Pee Wee said the reason why
he murdered Trudy and Johnny wasbecause Johnny had sold a bunch
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of car parts for Pee Wee and hadn't passed along the money.
But to me, I think that's a whole bunch of, there's a whole
bunch of lying here. Because to me, I really do
believe that the way Pee Wee reputation was and the things he
was doing, and I'm quite sure his cohorts knew that this
business partners knew how dangerous Pee Wee was.
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I don't think that dude would have messed with Pee Wee money
like that. I'm quite sure he would have
gave Pee Wee his money. So I think it's really this guy
paid him this money to knock these people off now.
They said that he lured Johnny out in the secluded area and
shot this man in the head. Then after he did that and this
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all happened because Johnny kindof figured out what was about to
happen and he tried to run for safety but it was too late.
And then Pee Wee went back and he picked up Jesse, told her to
the same spot about what he had done to Johnny.
And wind up stabbing her to death.
Now I already know a lot of people going to say how in the
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world is this man is able to putfear in these people and he's
only 5, two and 140 lbs soaking wet.
Well here we go again. You got to remember Pee Wee knew
how to exert fear to people. Y'all got to remember back then
people were very afraid of guns if they didn't have a gun on
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them and you got a gun on you. It ain't like you see now where
people know all kind of tactics to take the good from them and
all that stuff. And not to mention Pete, we was
small and quick. So let's say they would have
gotten the good from him. There's a good chance he could
have took a knife and stabbed you somewhere vital in your body
on your side, could have punchedit alone, punching some vital
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organ. And he you is down on the ground
and you're at his mercy. So he had a lot of event and
then let's say you did take the best of it.
You in an area where you don't know where in the world to run
to. He got you in a wooded area and
no man's land. You got to remember too this in
the 70s, there wasn't no St. lights like it is now on the
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road. So if you're trying to run away,
you is dark. It it, it it you you don't know
what where the landscape is. There's no lights unless you see
a car light. And let's say you did see a car
like it could be a good chance to that's that's Pee Wee picking
you up again. So he had a lot of advantage
over these people. That's why he was able to get
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away. And you got to remember too,
that there was no cell phones back then and tracking devices
like we have now. So yeah, Pee Wee had a good
chance of doing these type of things and again, getting away.
So after he killed him, he buried him in the same spot,
making Jesse, Trudy and Johnny Sellers the first two denizens
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of Pee Wee's actual private graveyard.
Which I mean citizens of Pee Wee's actual private graveyard,
which should be the resting would be the resting place of
four more bodies before it was all said and done.
And of course, there's still thecoast of Pee Wee said he was
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still killing at the rate of at least once a month, which that
is also not being confirmed about the coastal killings that
we talked about in the first episode, but the first part of
this series. But at the same time, it was not
also been not unconfirmed eithernot confirmed or unconfirmed
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because there was a lot of people missing on the coastal
areas where Pee Wee said that hewas doing his killing spree at.
So there could be a possibility they could be victims of people.
Now, again, this is also after he said that he had cut the
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testicles off of two boys and forced fed them.
And then he said something abouthe would stitch them up with
some kind of molten plum bum, which I still don't know what
the world that is and that they are that that's the way he dealt
with them for like snitching on him or or putting him in a
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situation where he can get caught up by the cops.
So I mean, I'm telling you, thisdude was on some craziness.
Now we're going back to another hired possible killer from Pee
wee. Now, this lady baby, in 1975
when this happened and this is Pee Wee's last year of freedom,
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he was hanging out at Sam's Club, actually, this guy, I'm
sorry. And he was approached by a man
he knew from prison named John William Kent for on power.
Now, Power said a friend of his was trying to get some revenge
on a formal look and power figure.
Pee Wee was just a man for the job.
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That's what it is, a woman, I'm sorry.
And the client that he was referring to was Susan Kipper.
Now, Susan Kipper was this attractive blonde lady.
She had been involved with a married, wealthy landowner named
Silas Yates. Now Susan Kemper's family tree.
Her nephew used to refer to her as Aunt Monkey.
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And dad is Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20.
That's right Matchbox 20, the guy from Matchbox 20 this is
we're talking about his aunt nowthat's this is what pee wee is
is basically saying about this lady back in the day so anyway,
things have been getting hot andheavy between Miss Yates and
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Kipper for a while I mean, Yatesis selling off a bunch of
property. He tried to buy this woman
gifts. He brought a trailer, he brought
a brand new sports car. And by the way, trailers was
getting popular in the 70s because trained the manufacturer
home market was becoming just asnice as a regular house.
So it was cheap upkeep. It was made out of very good
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material. He was.
Jumping on it. But after things cooled off and
Yates presumably realized, idiotthat that he was being, he
called the whole thing off and he tried taking some of the
bigger gifts back and it didn't sit well with Aunt Muck.
So because she got accustomed tothat lifestyle ball in so he
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decided the only way she was going to keep her new trailer in
her sports car that Salas Yates had to go.
So she offered Pee Wee $1000 to kill her ex sugar daddy and Pee
Wee negotiated from 1000 up to 1500.
Look gay, look at you Pee Wee Extra 500.
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He came up with a plan. I give you $1000.
She said to kill my ex love. I do it for 700.
You want it for seven? I'm going to.
I'm giving you 1000 for it. I do it for 700.
I do it for for 6:45. No, let's you going wrong man.
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Anyway, Pee Wee's plan. First he was going to call a
woman named Diane Neely. Now, Diane was the ex-wife of
another one of Pee Wee's prison buddies, Walter Neely.
Who was going to play a huge role in this story as we go
along? So these people keep hiring pee
wee gasses as this silent assassin.
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You going to carry out these baddeeds in the shadow?
But which is crazy because people would tell a bunch of
people what he doing. So Diane job was to be the bait
to get Sally's Yates out of his trailer.
And on the night in question, Diane went up the Yates trailer,
knocked on the door and told himshe was having car trouble.
Hey, excuse me. I have a flat.
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Also, you know, she, she's dressed to the Neil's.
She's got a damn tits out, you know, back in the 70s.
Enough to make a man drool, you know?
So when Yates got outside, Pee Wee sprung out from behind the
car and pointed a gun in his face.
Then the gun. That gun was Pee Wee's trusty
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Beretta, which he had no shit car his name onto both sides
with an electric pencil. And and it's.
True. Like he really put his name on
his Beretta. You can't make this shit up,
man. It's just crazy.
And he had his full name on there too.
Man, that is crazy. How?
Who in the world calls a whole name on that?
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Good. He tried to make sure if they
fight it. Yeah, that man so Pee Wee, so
Silas that it didn't. If he didn't do what he said,
Pee Wee was going to quote blow him a new nostril.
So Silas did what he said. I'm sorry I'm laughing.
But it's just funny how how he said that he was told it got
into the trunk and Pee Wee's carand Pee Wee didn't met up with
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his contacts, the people that had put him in touch with Susan
Gipper. He told Silas he took Silas out
of the trunk, out his 11 inch knife, which Pee Wee took the
calling his toothpick. And ran it through Yates chest,
over and over until Yates was dead, Brutal, Peewee said.
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He then made the other two men bury Yates as he was.
Only paid for killing and killing was all he was going to
do My God I'm sorry man I just this is crazy.
So anyway, base was buried, the job was done and the three men
went. They separate now.
Peewee said that after he killedYates, he tracked down Susan
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Kemper AKA Aunt Monkey, and he said pretty soon they started a
sexual relationship. Lord Pee Wee finally got
somebody to give him some of that, some of the cat.
Lord Jesus, Pee Wee made damn sure to say as many times as he
could how good looking Aunt Monkey was.
He was proud of he's proud of this lady.
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And he said that this sexual relationship, even when she was
relaxed with me, even when we were laughing together, I could
feel her fear. She was the one who told me that
whenever I whenever I come, she felt and smell and taste
violence and death in it. It's not just because I I would
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eat a whole cigarette for dinnerand that's not just because
that's all I had was chicken tenders and Gatorade.
Lord Jesus, Lord have mercy. This is crazy Woo boy I tell you
now Anyway, after murder her ex-boyfriend she did end up
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going for she end up going to jail as well and a lot of people
going down the self pee wee. But then a lot of people think
that it could be a big lie. But I don't know, man.
I mean, he, he, he's been prettythorough with everything so far.
He's been pretty thorough so far.
But anyway, I am going to stop here because as I can see now
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that this next part of the episode, because we've been
recording this joint man about agood hour and 15 minutes, which
I'll probably be about after I edit a little bit.
It'll probably about a about almost 50 some minutes.
We're going to talk about how more bodies are starting to come
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up with Pee Wee Gaskins in the trial.
And let me tell y'all that next episode about the the the the
trial is about to be wild like Pee Wee Gaskins trial and
mannerisms and behavior is insane and the reason why this
is going to be probably wound upbeing a five part.
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Series what it looking like is because it is so much
information about this case. I mean the peewee gasket story
is a lot because even after the conviction he still got more
wild shit he's done Yeah man this is this is this is like a
little mini series and I hope y'all enjoyed supported also as
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well. But before I get off here let me
show you the picture of his niece that he did.
I know someone wanted to see that last time so I'm finna
share y'all that picture right now.
Now this isn't on picture of hisniece.
This is his niece. Rest in peace to Janice.
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Janice was a was a beautiful young lady and he killed his own
niece all because he just I guess he had that that thing
inside of him where he wanted her dead.
And you could tell that this picture here was probably maybe
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a little AI designed to make thecolor features because the
original 1 she's in black and white.
But still, she was a pretty young lady, very, very young.
She was only 15 years old. It should have been alive today.
She's born in 1955. We're talking about she would
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have been turning 70 this year. 70.
Sad, isn't it? Her own uncle just took her life
out because he's just a sick man.
And that's sad. But anyway, before I wrap up
guys, shout out to the cold cases.
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I want to tell y'all guys too keep following these news about
these cold cases because they'rereally the new technology of DNA
is really working. They just arrested a 93 year old
man at a nursing home for a murder he did back in 19/15/65
was or 67 something like that back in 1965, almost 60 years
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ago or right at 60 years ago. And he was a young man, he was
like 3132 years old. They came to the nursing home
while this band is either bitch you about to be on his last leg
and die and arrested him. Now is he going to make it a
trial? Probably not.
But that just let y'all know that they're not playing with
this DNA. They are really going out here
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and putting the cuffs on you. So if you got skeletons in your
closet and think because you 939495 or even damn near 100 and
they're not going to come and put you in jail, they will.
They are really doing it. But anyway, y'all please get in
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another edition.
You guessed that you can't make this BS.
Oh, Joeho. Joel Davis back at you live
again, a man. Hope everybody had a good
(00:21):
Father's Day. I had to push back an exclusive
segment that we're going to start having on Fridays.
It was supposed to be released last Friday, right?
I was supposed to be called Black Friday.
When we talk on black, on Black crime stories, true crime
stories, most of is probably going to be involving, you know,
(00:44):
murder and mayhem, but just fromin the black community.
But I don't know. I think that I was working on
it. And then we had a family of
murders, so I had to stop and get that family emergency
handled. And then I had to do like, I
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think four or five tapes before I got it right because I just
had a crazy weekend. But thank God that the Lord has
came through and made that situation a little better.
It was a OK Father's Day little somber, but you know, God made
everything a whole lot better. So getting back to the situation
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that I wanted to tell you guys about, you know, about to today
is that we are going to be discussing the third part of Pee
Wee Gasket's life story here where we talk about the crimes
he committed and how he has literally terrorized the people
(01:57):
in the PD area of South Carolina.
Those are what we will be discussing as well.
I have a whole lineup for everyone to be prepared for
that's coming out of this podcast.
I think I got like a good 20 something stories that I can
(02:18):
possibly work on to keep everybody engaged.
So I'm pretty proud of that. I've been putting a lot of
blood, sweat and tears. I know I'm still a small
podcast. Hopefully in the future I'll
blow up, maybe get a major deal.You never know, you know?
But I am trying to network with other podcasters that does this
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genre. I did not know that.
I was told that I'm actually oneof the few males, black males in
this genre that talks about all crime and also black on black
crime. Kind of made me feel real good
and everything else. I know a lot of people are
starting to ask me with Joel, ifthis podcast blow up, are you
(03:05):
going to do like everybody else?Are you going to do like a live
tour where you go to different cities and do lives?
I don't know yet. It's going to have to be based
upon the lot of logistics involved in that, you know what
I'm saying? It's going to be depending on
how everything goes with the podcast, how successful it is.
My dream would be to do this full time and be the breadwinner
(03:29):
of my family, to be in my own business and my own LLC on this
type of thing. But at the same time, this is
just a hobby at this point. So we'll see.
But if it does, like I said, my manager possibly will be my
wife. That's my girl.
She knows my dreams, she knows my goals, and she always
(03:49):
sacrifice every day to make sureI'm happy in this.
Listen, man, you got a maid out there that sacrifice themselves
to make you happy. And they don't mind sacrificing
themselves to make you happy because they know at they're
going to get a return on their investment of you showing them
gratitude and showing them loyalty.
You better hold on to that. That's a.
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Beautiful. Thing to have man, a lot of
people don't have that all rightenough of me reeling and
rattling about that. Let's talk about pee wee gaskets
where we left off that now Pee wee Oh my God, your boy pee wee
man he didn't already knocked off his niece and her friend,
right As you know now he is starting to get into the thick
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of his serial killer MO. But the thing about pee wee
Gaskins he really didn't have anMO because if you'll notice he's
all over the place when it comesto doing these crimes.
So we're going to pick up what we left off with that.
We're going to talk about how hedid what he did with his niece
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and continue from there all right so let's get back up here.
See here. So we're going to read, we're
going to revisit what happened with Janice just in case you
didn't get it from the last episode.
So this is what he has done. So 1970, like I said before, on
the last podcast, Pee Wee was 37and here he was with with
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Patricia R Brooks and his niece,Janice Kirby.
All right, now, according to PeeWee ran the Janice and Patricia
one night at the local burger joint.
He found out Janice had drunk a few too many beers and it passed
instead and it passed down to the girls they were with and
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they asked if Pee Wee could takecare of the girls would take
could take care of his niece andPatricia and he obliged.
So Pee Wee wonderhood to his car.
But Janet's friend Pee Wee figured she better go along and
make sure Janice was OK because people's like, yo, I would take
her, but yo, I need you to help me out because she's really
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messed up now. So, you know, she goes along
with them and everything else. So here he's taking them back to
his house and Pee Wee like, well, let me go get y'all girl
some coffee, Try to sober up Janice.
So he tried to sober up Janice. Janice drink this coffee and
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wind up just throwing up all over herself.
So Pee Wee sees this and like, yo, listen, I could take you
back to my place. You can get cleaned up.
So all of a sudden people get this bright idea, OK, that he
was going to go ahead on and rape them instead of taking him
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them back to his house. So he took them out to an old
rundown tenant house that he used to have someone rent and he
knew that it's out in the country.
It's a bunch of woods. He didn't got these girls guard
down because you know he's unclePee Wee, right?
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Janice feel like her uncle wouldnever do nothing like that.
And all of a sudden he pulls a knife on Janice and he put it up
to her throat but then he fell cause Patricia slammed Pee Wee
in the back of the head with a 2by 4.
So the two of the girls run out of the wood.
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Pee Wee's tough, OK? He was like all right, y'all hit
me with a 2 by 4, don't you worry.
Don't catch you motherfuckers. Oh, go catch you.
So he start running after them with the gun in his hand.
You know what I'm saying? Shots at the girls.
In fact, excuse me, not at the girls.
He actually fired a shot. In the air and after he did
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that, the the girls stopped Basically, he just scared him to
death and he's like, yo, you going back to this house.
So he marched the girls back to the house.
All right. And then because he wasn't doing
after another, they try to you know, the girls again try to
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fight for their lives because they were like, all right, we
know what's about to happen. But he we got the upper hand
again and knocked out both girlswith his pistol.
Now he got him unconscious, halfdead.
And then that's when you like, you know what, I'm just going to
go in head on and get rid of them now.
So again, this is the type of serial killer thinking that you
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that we're used to when it comesto serial killers.
Once they feel like you are a threat and you already that made
it to the point that, you know, messed up their plan, they want
to get rid of you. They don't have time to play
nice guy. So after that as he knocked out
the girls, he we left Janice at the house and he went on ahead
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and locked Patricia in the trunkof his car.
Then he went to that vacant house.
Now he knew that he had a septictank at that at that place and
he managed to get the cement lidoff the top.
This is where he said what he did next.
He planned it to crack her school open and make sure she
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was dead, but he said he decidedthat that would make too much of
a big mess. So I just loaded into the sludge
and waited until there wasn't any more bugs.
There's no no push the cement lead back into place.
And the only reason why we know this is is 1 is true is because
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six years later he we going to lead him to that spot.
So that way the body of Patriciaall Brooks was and that was just
brutal. Now anyway, he we got back to
his niece Jack, which had died from her injuries because he had
beat up so bad with the pistol knocking him unconscious and and
everything. So he decided that he was going
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to take her out back and bury her and cover the ground with
pine needles. And her body was never found.
And that's because Pee Wee Gaston never told me what tenant
house he, he buried her at. But anyway, he told the Kid Folk
told everybody that the girls had were planning to run away
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and that they were asking questions about Kid Folk
California. And he told everybody, including
his people, the family, his sister, that, you know, he let
them out and they got in the carwith some boys.
He believed we're from Orangeburg and let me do it in
Pee Wee for, you know, they got out of the car on Orangeburg.
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And lastly, we seen him, you know, they went down the kids up
town and yeah, yeah, right next to living with, which is the
last time I seen. So everybody just believed kids
run away because who wants to believe they brother we kill,
they kill his niece. Somebody wants to believe that,
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right? So they're like, alright, you
know, and her friend, you know, they must have ran away because
this is the 70s. That's what everybody was doing
anyway, you know, young girls and guys did not want to be home
anymore. Listen to their parents rules.
The first thing they did was gettheir bag of stuff, back it up,
start walking down the road and start thumbing.
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They're using their thumb to catch a ride and they will get
to the destination. They felt like they could make a
new start and go from there. That's what a lot of young
people wind up doing. Back in the day, in the 70s and
some parts of the early 80s, that was the norm.
Everybody did that all across the country.
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I know you're probably saying that's crazy because today and
age, hitchhiking is like playingdevil is like rolling the dice
and possibly getting assaulted or murdered.
But back then, times was different.
Everybody was taught that everybody was pretty much good
and nobody didn't have time to be trying to hurt you and stuff.
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That's how these serial killers got away with so many murders
because everybody was unsuspected.
So anyway, over the next five years, Pee Wee has begun to
doing a lot of killing, OK? And I'm going to read some of
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the victims that he has already killed later on into this story
so you can get an idea on the onwhen we get ready to wrap it up.
Now, this is like I said, this is confirmed 12.
So the reason why these two girls went missing and there was
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really not a lot of coverage on that case is because another
high profile case jumped in the labs of local law enforcement.
See a girl named 13 year old Peggy.
Cut now. Cut now.
Father was a state senator. And of course, when she was
missing, you know, all the resources went to her and even
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more were dedicated when Peggy was found murdered two days
later. Now, a guy named Junior Pierce
went down for that crime, but hewe claim he was the one who
actually was responsible. So that's always been a toss up.
That's been a controversy about that case for years, that this
guy was evidently falsely charged for that crime.
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But again, Pee Wee said he did it.
And not to mention Pee Wee original name was Junior before
he started going by Pee Wee. Because of his size.
So I'm going to keep going rightalong here.
So again, this is on the final truth on that book that he
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claimed that he was the one thatthat killed Peggy and he said he
did that because she sassed him Now when they said sass and that
means she talked back to him whenever he basically was
engaging talking with her. Yeah.
So. He said that he stood over this
for like 2 days about this girl just getting all out of whack
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with him, this Peggy girl. And he was in Charleston at the
time and he was sitting at the Crab too.
And people said that he decided to do something about this girl.
So he decided to set up an alibifor himself by riding a tour on
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a tourist cabin, by renting, I mean a tourist cabin in
Charleston. He made sure everyone in the
regular bar in Charleston saw him there.
He said he didn't drove. Yeah.
And then he drove well to the bar man.
And when he went to the bar, he wanted to make sure that people
saw him sitting on his favorite stool.
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Then he liked to be sniffing hisfavorite flower and he just
wanted everybody to know that hewas there.
So he wanted to make sure that people was like, yeah, I saw
people eat people right now. He ain't no way he did what he
y'all think he did with that girl.
He was right in here with us now.
He decided that he done got himself with an alibi.
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He drove back to Soap. Where both he and Peggy, the
girl that we were talking about in this story, was also residing
South Carolina AKA Sumter County.
He found Peggy, kidnapped her, tortured her, then left her body
in the middle of the road to be found.
He said the reason why he left her instead of sinking her in
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the swamp as he had almost did all the other bodies was to
prevent cops from accidentally stumbling upon other bodies that
Pee Wee had killed in their search.
So I don't know this sound like to me that he's telling the
truth. I don't know how true it is, but
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it sound like to me Pee Wee is really telling the truth about
this story and everything now Pee Wee was working on.
Now This is why everybody also think that this is actually true
too because Pee Wee was working on a house on the same St. that
Peggy lived on and that house was on the way back and forth to
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where Peggy walked to go to school.
Now they also know that Pee Wee Pee Wee was was questioned and
investigated for Pee Wee for Peggy all cut now murder but
despised Pee Wee already being avery recent suspect in the
disappearance of two other girlsaround that same age.
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This is what one officer said about him.
He weaves a small town pump who talks and acts tough to get
women to notice him, but that's all he just talked.
So you're just a horrible policeofficer is what I'm thinking.
Because if the man is already around young girls and there are
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I think he's cool or like him ordrawn to him, there's a good
chance that he's probably has done something sinister.
No one just a grown man just hangs out with little girls
without sinister attentions likesomeone like pee wee gasps, not
a predator. So so anyway, we're now going to
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go to the next part. We go get my transcript.
So now I'm going to drop my Dick.
I'm I'm going to drop my mouth. Shower.
Hold on. So now Pee Wee don't switched up
now. Now Pee Wee is now infamous with
driving this hearse and we're still in the earliest area.
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Now he is basically a shade treemechanic and he says that he's
doing this shade tree mechanic light work for a stock car drop
when he ran into a felt. Now he knew that driving this
old Cadillac hearse and he was having a hard time selling it.
So this is how on Peewee acquired the hearse.
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Anyway, let me retrace my stiltsif you want to know how he got
this infamous hearse. So pee Wee picked it up for the
for next to nothing from him andsay, hey, man, I'd love to have
that car. I think that'd be that'll be a
cool vehicle. It's it's different.
So when people see him drive thecar, he would tell people that
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he got a hearse to drive dead bodies of people that he knocked
off and put in his private cemetery.
People just thought it was a joke.
You know, when they hear this from Pee Wee, they would laugh
and say, Oh my God, this guy's hilarious.
And my man riding around here would have heard somebody.
He got a private cemetery. He taking people to it.
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You know, people, it's the 70s. People think that there's no
such thing as someone really crazy.
You know, they have a hearse to drive it to represent that
they're basically killing peopleand and putting them in a
personal cemetery. Now still, like I said, people
laughing about this not now remembering maybe or forgot that
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this is the same man that was responsible for the
disappearance of two young girlsnot a year before and one of
them was his niece. OK, so then again, he's still
going in and out of jail, in andout of jail.
And he would decided that it's time to get into some other
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business. Even though he still loves to do
the killing on the side, he wanted to have a chance to have
multiple cars. In fact, he wanted to not buy
them. He want the five distance 5
finger discount system. So he started a cartel friend,
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so, you know, he can do the car stripping that he's so good at
and, you know, sell the parts, make money, rinse and repeat.
There is rumors that people are coming after him for the
disappearance of these two girls, but you know, he's hiding
and keeping it, leaving it low key.
But while the credible people are trying to pin this on him,
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the local police, they still nottaking pee Wee gasket series.
The jokes and people talking about oh, he talking about he
rides a hurry. He's got a private, he got a
private cemetery. You know, they're like whatever
man, it's Pee Wee. You know that dude ain't right
in the head ain't you know, he just small time, you know, slow
acting punk that's just has no business that has no idea of
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what he's talking about or what he's doing.
So again, while Pee Wee got thisring going on, he killed someone
else. In 1971 he killed a woman named
Martha Dicks. Now this is again the 3rd murder
and his first racially motivatedone.
Now here's the strange thing about Martha Dicks.
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Martha Dicks was the older blacklady that used to do some work
for Pee wee. Now they said that she would do
work for pee wee and stuff and pee wee she would help pee wee
and they. Said in a way.
Now, this is just like I said what I've heard from people
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around my way and people that know about the case and said
that Pee Wee and this woman had a relationship on the low going
on. Like when Pee Wee needed to, you
know, get his rocks off. She was there to, you know,
provide that service and he'll throw a little money and she go
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away. He go his way.
Now there was a rumor that one time Miss Martha Dix got
pregnant for Pee Wee, but she got an abortion.
Now that's what I heard. I've been trying to research and
find out if that was credible ornot, but I've never found no
credible information about this.But that's what was told to me
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from the Grapevine from the Carolinas in the same area that
Pee Wee Gasses was from. But either way it goes, I just
know that that in his final reveal about this woman was that
she was also Martha Dix was a part of the women sexual
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liberation movement of the 70s. You know how women started
becoming take charge free to show how sexual liberated they
was and didn't care who knew about their sexual preferences
and lifestyles anymore. You know, the rise of the LBGT.
She was part of that because shewas also bisexual and sometimes
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she would go by the name of Clyde and that was I guess when
she wants to be with a woman andbe masculine or whatever.
Now, I also heard that Martha was very popular too around the
around the guy that she would talk big shit and stuff.
And, you know, she was a nice looking woman and, you know, she
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was just didn't mind speaking her mind.
And not to mention too a lot of the people in that town grew up
with Martha. So Martha was like one of the
dudes, one of the, you know, shewas like the regular folk around
here. Oh, that Martha, you know, and
she, you know, she would just whatever they got going on,
barbecues, special events, food,whatever, Martha was a part of
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that. She was really like I said she
was really very close in Pee Wee's circle of friends and the
criminals they was hanging around with.
Now the reason why Martha got targeted by Pee Wee cause Pee
Wee said that she would always give him the most shit and would
always pick at him. You know, she would call him an
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elf because of his statue and everything else.
She would go to him and say stuff like, hey, Pee Wee, how's
Santa Claus doing? You know, she would be saying
stuff like tell Santa Claus whatI need for Christmas.
And Pee Wee just was not feelingit.
He was getting mad and mad and not dementia too.
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She would say stuff like how cold is the North Pole?
Man? I ain't never been there.
I mean, she always had jokes about this.
How? I mean she was just, this is how
she was, she liked to joke and and talk shit, but at the same
time there was also somewhat messing around too.
So anyway, he decided that enough was enough.
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I guess he knew that he'd been munching with Martha on the low
and she's still cracking these short people jokes and stuff
like that. He felt like it was time for her
to go. She was becoming more of a
nuisance than an acid. So he said that he lied to her
that he has some some cash and some drugs and some cash and for
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the medium at this tinted house where he does all his dirty DJ.
When she got there he got her drunk and high and then he
surprised her with handcuffs. I guess that he was trying to do
something kinky, I guess, with her to make her back
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comfortable, because I was I would be thinking that if she's
drunk and he surprised her with handcuffs, I think that he
probably said something to the effect of, you know, we going to
try something different and not,you know, how he we talk.
If you hear how he talking interviews, he talks so slow and
and methodical. And that's when he said that he
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killed her. And this is the way that he said
he did. He force fed her a soda spike
with pills, caused her to overdose and die.
Now my thing is, is he force fedher?
I think that's probably why he had a handcuff.
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He knew if I have a handcuff, she cannot do anything to stop
me 'cause she's so incapacitated.
I'm just trying to figure out how he kept her from kicking her
legs and stuff like that. Unless he handcuffed the legs
too and did it that way. That's the only thing I could
think of because again, Pee Wee is small in stature.
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So this tells you how the bolical this guy was.
He knew he couldn't fight you one-on-one because you're
probably a lot taller, lot stronger and quicker than he is.
So you have to put you in positions where you cannot move
and he'd get up hand. Now he never said what kind of
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pill he put in this woman's body, bone soda.
But he did said that after he did what he did with her that he
weighed her body down and put her into a Creek.
And they didn't find Martha until years later.
She was skeletal remains when they found her.
And even though they found theseskeletal remains near this Creek
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that he put her at, even to thisday, there is no positive ID of
that of skeletal remains being Martha Dix, which I think is
crazy because of the way DNA hasevolved.
There's got to be someone in herbloodline left.
I mean, I would think that they would have a genealogy
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assessment or take the DNA from those bones and do a genealogy
DNA analysis to find out if it'sreally her or not.
I mean, I don't know why they haven't done that yet.
I mean, that's what I I would have done, preserve the bones in
a way do I could get the DNA from it in the future.
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And yeah, that's what I would do.
So hopefully somebody on preserve and did that.
But this again, this was back inthe 70s and early 80s.
So again, he's tell the story about Martha Dixon final truth.
He we figured that it was a goodtime to juice himself up again
as a bad ass and then he talked about this another unconfirmed
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story about murdering a couple of gun runners in a deal going
back now he we told this fast tale of betrayal and entry.
Now he talked about he cut down to hardest nails gun runners
named Eddie and Bertie Brown andan assault rifle withdrawal type
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of situation. But anyway, they said that that
this is the story that he talkedabout and one of the unconfirmed
stories, the part in his book and what's crazy, but for real
though, the confirmed murders is6 of these people that he
murdered was people he was actually a criminal business
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with, which is even more bizarreand crazy.
I mean, to me that that's just about.
So now we're going to move on toDecember of 1973 where he
committed his fourth and 5th serious murder.
And this one right here is the worst of all because when I tell
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you this story here, if you're the type of person that you're
very sensitive about a young mother being hurt or murdered in
any kind of way, or the death ofa toddler or young child or any
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child, you may want to skip thisepisode altogether and wait for
me to release the next part thattalks about the trial of peewee
gases because this is about to get a little bit touchy.
So Doreen Dempsey in 19 in December 1973 was a single
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mother, and she knew Pee Wee through the carnival connections
he had made over the years and things of that nature.
But she actually was good friends with Pee Wee's wife,
which at this point, I think this probably is his fifth rock.
But you got to remember, Pee Weedon't care about all that
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because one thing about Pee Wee,if he's going to take you out,
he's going to take you out regardless of who your relation
is, because he already then tookout his own niece.
So, you know, everybody's fair game.
So Doreen Dempsey, she was a white lady all right, but she
had a 2 year old daughter with ablack man and she was praying
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again with another mixed child from another blood from her own.
I think from a different black guy now, what he told law
enforcement doing interrogation,that he killed Doreen for mixing
the races and he killed the little girl to spare what he
said was a life not worth living.
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You can't make this shit up. So that that was the final truth
on that one. And then he said on final truth
when he did, when he made his last book of of of confessing.
I don't know why I keep droppinghis mind my.
He said that. He said that it was race related
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because I guess he wanted to saywhatever he thought would be
logical enough for the for law enforcement to believe.
But yeah, he said he did that basically as a way to to make a
law enforcement satisfy law enforcement interrogation, which
I think is crazy that you would say something like that and
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everything else. But to me, I really think what
he said in the interrogation wasreally true because you got to
have some kind of hatred in yourheart to cook to a single mother
and her baby and also she being pregnant with an unborn, with a
child that hasn't been born yet.That's just yeah, I'm sorry, I
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have to go without. And then not to mention, too, he
said that he did that also because he thought he'd get
basically less time and he couldget out of jail.
Because here's the thing, though, this is 1970 S Carolina
and the world was changing and and it was a lot of social
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justice reform for race relations going so hard even in
the 70s. So I don't think that even if he
tried to play that game, that would have worked in South
Carolina. There would have been an uproar.
And plus, he also had done the ultimate on sin.
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He had killed his own niece. So I don't see this working out
his favor the way he was saying that.
I I really do believe that he meant what he said the first
time. You know, I think that he just
was just trying to blow smoke upsomebody's own behind.
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I mean, I ain't trying to be mean, I'm just being real.
Now from the new story he told for his book also was that
Doreen showed up at his house one night distraught, crying,
saying she couldn't take life inFlorence County as a mother. 2
mixed race kids anymore. So Pee Wee did took Doreen aside
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and told her he allowed her her kids to live in a trailer of his
in Charleston for free, but in return she had to do anything he
wanted sexually and she couldn'ttell anybody that Pee Wee was
taking care of her. He said that she had said it in.
And so Pee Wee told his wife that he was giving Doreena, her
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two year old daughter, a ride tothe bus station so she could
head to another city for a freshstart, new life.
And that was the last time Doreen and her baby were ever
seen. A lie.
Now I could actually see that being the truth.
And here's the thing, I really believe that he probably told
that Lady that she would have todo sexual favors for him.
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Because here's why I think that's true.
This is 1970 S Carolina. Not too many people are seen
with mixed kids in that area back then, or black and white
couples. And if you did see it, it was a
whole lot of hard looks. I really do believe that she was
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probably getting at her wits end.
She probably went to Pee Wee because she knew that he had a
lot of resources. He had probably, you know, all
kinds of of places that he couldput it at or knew she had.
He had property out of Florence County.
He probably told her. Yeah, You know, you get your
place at Charleston and I'll drive you to the, you know, and
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I don't think he said he won't drive her to the bus station.
I think he told her he won't drive her to Charleston.
And I think that when he got herin that car, that's when he
decided, no, you ain't going to Charleston, baby, you know, or
either there. I think that when he went there
or whatever was driving, he probably told her that he wanted
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intimate relations right then. And she probably told him no pee
wee, you know, I'm not comfortable doing that around my
child because the child is 2 years old or whatever.
And she might even told him that, well, when we get to
Charleston, you know, or, or whatever we can, we can seal the
deal then and start this up. And I think that that's when he
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got upset because he felt rejected because she would do it
right then. And then I think that's why he
did what he did to her. I don't think this was nothing
about this whole he did it on his own free will after he made
this promise to her for sex anytime he wanted, then decide
to knock off. I mean, you got to remember Pee
Wee was also a sexual deviant and sexual deviants, if they
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could get it right, then anytime, any place, they're not
going to mess that up because that's a, that's a, that's a
satisfy, that's being that satisfying their own ego.
And you got to remember he's a little sadistic too.
So yeah. So I really think that would
happen. I really do.
So anyway, Doreen Doreen's body two years later was found buried
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in a 2 foot deep grade under a sawdust pile nailed on Pee Wee's
house, and the baby was found stuffed in an old stump hole and
covered in dirt. It was crazy too, they said.
That was just so disturbed. And again, it was never
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investigated because, you know, people thought she left town.
And plus, nobody didn't really like Doreen because of the
situation of what Doreen had. She had a mixed baby and another
mixed baby. So again, that was frowned upon
very heavily. She had a mixed baby and
pregnant with another mixed babynow.
And I think they said it was from two different black men.
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So yeah, that was frowned upon back then.
So nobody was in line to try to be worried about this girl.
She was considered damage. Good.
So anyway, after this happened, what else happened again?
Phoebe went back to running his business with the card, with the
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card stripping stuff. And by doing so, Phoebe ran into
some trouble with his partners Jesse Ruth Trudy and Johnny
Sellers. Now Jesse Ruth Trudy which is a
woman. But on either way it goes.
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Jesse Trudy, ex-husband James Judy paid Pee Wee to kill Jesse
Trudy and Johnny Sellers becauseJohnny Sellers has stolen James
Judy's wife. You can't make this shit up.
It was $10,000 that was paid. Pee Wee claimed for him to do
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this and to also knock off her love, new love of Johnny
Sellers. But either way it goes.
James Judy went down for this murder because he got 10 years
because police believed that he had hired Pee Wee to commit the
murder. But Pee Wee said the reason why
he murdered Trudy and Johnny wasbecause Johnny had sold a bunch
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of car parts for Pee Wee and hadn't passed along the money.
But to me, I think that's a whole bunch of, there's a whole
bunch of lying here. Because to me, I really do
believe that the way Pee Wee reputation was and the things he
was doing, and I'm quite sure his cohorts knew that this
business partners knew how dangerous Pee Wee was.
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I don't think that dude would have messed with Pee Wee money
like that. I'm quite sure he would have
gave Pee Wee his money. So I think it's really this guy
paid him this money to knock these people off now.
They said that he lured Johnny out in the secluded area and
shot this man in the head. Then after he did that and this
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all happened because Johnny kindof figured out what was about to
happen and he tried to run for safety but it was too late.
And then Pee Wee went back and he picked up Jesse, told her to
the same spot about what he had done to Johnny.
And wind up stabbing her to death.
Now I already know a lot of people going to say how in the
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world is this man is able to putfear in these people and he's
only 5, two and 140 lbs soaking wet.
Well here we go again. You got to remember Pee Wee knew
how to exert fear to people. Y'all got to remember back then
people were very afraid of guns if they didn't have a gun on
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them and you got a gun on you. It ain't like you see now where
people know all kind of tactics to take the good from them and
all that stuff. And not to mention Pete, we was
small and quick. So let's say they would have
gotten the good from him. There's a good chance he could
have took a knife and stabbed you somewhere vital in your body
on your side, could have punchedit alone, punching some vital
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organ. And he you is down on the ground
and you're at his mercy. So he had a lot of event and
then let's say you did take the best of it.
You in an area where you don't know where in the world to run
to. He got you in a wooded area and
no man's land. You got to remember too this in
the 70s, there wasn't no St. lights like it is now on the
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road. So if you're trying to run away,
you is dark. It it, it it you you don't know
what where the landscape is. There's no lights unless you see
a car light. And let's say you did see a car
like it could be a good chance to that's that's Pee Wee picking
you up again. So he had a lot of advantage
over these people. That's why he was able to get
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away. And you got to remember too,
that there was no cell phones back then and tracking devices
like we have now. So yeah, Pee Wee had a good
chance of doing these type of things and again, getting away.
So after he killed him, he buried him in the same spot,
making Jesse, Trudy and Johnny Sellers the first two denizens
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of Pee Wee's actual private graveyard.
Which I mean citizens of Pee Wee's actual private graveyard,
which should be the resting would be the resting place of
four more bodies before it was all said and done.
And of course, there's still thecoast of Pee Wee said he was
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still killing at the rate of at least once a month, which that
is also not being confirmed about the coastal killings that
we talked about in the first episode, but the first part of
this series. But at the same time, it was not
also been not unconfirmed eithernot confirmed or unconfirmed
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because there was a lot of people missing on the coastal
areas where Pee Wee said that hewas doing his killing spree at.
So there could be a possibility they could be victims of people.
Now, again, this is also after he said that he had cut the
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testicles off of two boys and forced fed them.
And then he said something abouthe would stitch them up with
some kind of molten plum bum, which I still don't know what
the world that is and that they are that that's the way he dealt
with them for like snitching on him or or putting him in a
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situation where he can get caught up by the cops.
So I mean, I'm telling you, thisdude was on some craziness.
Now we're going back to another hired possible killer from Pee
wee. Now, this lady baby, in 1975
when this happened and this is Pee Wee's last year of freedom,
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he was hanging out at Sam's Club, actually, this guy, I'm
sorry. And he was approached by a man
he knew from prison named John William Kent for on power.
Now, Power said a friend of his was trying to get some revenge
on a formal look and power figure.
Pee Wee was just a man for the job.
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That's what it is, a woman, I'm sorry.
And the client that he was referring to was Susan Kipper.
Now, Susan Kipper was this attractive blonde lady.
She had been involved with a married, wealthy landowner named
Silas Yates. Now Susan Kemper's family tree.
Her nephew used to refer to her as Aunt Monkey.
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And dad is Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20.
That's right Matchbox 20, the guy from Matchbox 20 this is
we're talking about his aunt nowthat's this is what pee wee is
is basically saying about this lady back in the day so anyway,
things have been getting hot andheavy between Miss Yates and
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Kipper for a while I mean, Yatesis selling off a bunch of
property. He tried to buy this woman
gifts. He brought a trailer, he brought
a brand new sports car. And by the way, trailers was
getting popular in the 70s because trained the manufacturer
home market was becoming just asnice as a regular house.
So it was cheap upkeep. It was made out of very good
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material. He was.
Jumping on it. But after things cooled off and
Yates presumably realized, idiotthat that he was being, he
called the whole thing off and he tried taking some of the
bigger gifts back and it didn't sit well with Aunt Muck.
So because she got accustomed tothat lifestyle ball in so he
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decided the only way she was going to keep her new trailer in
her sports car that Salas Yates had to go.
So she offered Pee Wee $1000 to kill her ex sugar daddy and Pee
Wee negotiated from 1000 up to 1500.
Look gay, look at you Pee Wee Extra 500.
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He came up with a plan. I give you $1000.
She said to kill my ex love. I do it for 700.
You want it for seven? I'm going to.
I'm giving you 1000 for it. I do it for 700.
I do it for for 6:45. No, let's you going wrong man.
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Anyway, Pee Wee's plan. First he was going to call a
woman named Diane Neely. Now, Diane was the ex-wife of
another one of Pee Wee's prison buddies, Walter Neely.
Who was going to play a huge role in this story as we go
along? So these people keep hiring pee
wee gasses as this silent assassin.
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You going to carry out these baddeeds in the shadow?
But which is crazy because people would tell a bunch of
people what he doing. So Diane job was to be the bait
to get Sally's Yates out of his trailer.
And on the night in question, Diane went up the Yates trailer,
knocked on the door and told himshe was having car trouble.
Hey, excuse me. I have a flat.
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Also, you know, she, she's dressed to the Neil's.
She's got a damn tits out, you know, back in the 70s.
Enough to make a man drool, you know?
So when Yates got outside, Pee Wee sprung out from behind the
car and pointed a gun in his face.
Then the gun. That gun was Pee Wee's trusty
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Beretta, which he had no shit car his name onto both sides
with an electric pencil. And and it's.
True. Like he really put his name on
his Beretta. You can't make this shit up,
man. It's just crazy.
And he had his full name on there too.
Man, that is crazy. How?
Who in the world calls a whole name on that?
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Good. He tried to make sure if they
fight it. Yeah, that man so Pee Wee, so
Silas that it didn't. If he didn't do what he said,
Pee Wee was going to quote blow him a new nostril.
So Silas did what he said. I'm sorry I'm laughing.
But it's just funny how how he said that he was told it got
into the trunk and Pee Wee's carand Pee Wee didn't met up with
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his contacts, the people that had put him in touch with Susan
Gipper. He told Silas he took Silas out
of the trunk, out his 11 inch knife, which Pee Wee took the
calling his toothpick. And ran it through Yates chest,
over and over until Yates was dead, Brutal, Peewee said.
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He then made the other two men bury Yates as he was.
Only paid for killing and killing was all he was going to
do My God I'm sorry man I just this is crazy.
So anyway, base was buried, the job was done and the three men
went. They separate now.
Peewee said that after he killedYates, he tracked down Susan
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Kemper AKA Aunt Monkey, and he said pretty soon they started a
sexual relationship. Lord Pee Wee finally got
somebody to give him some of that, some of the cat.
Lord Jesus, Pee Wee made damn sure to say as many times as he
could how good looking Aunt Monkey was.
He was proud of he's proud of this lady.
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And he said that this sexual relationship, even when she was
relaxed with me, even when we were laughing together, I could
feel her fear. She was the one who told me that
whenever I whenever I come, she felt and smell and taste
violence and death in it. It's not just because I I would
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eat a whole cigarette for dinnerand that's not just because
that's all I had was chicken tenders and Gatorade.
Lord Jesus, Lord have mercy. This is crazy Woo boy I tell you
now Anyway, after murder her ex-boyfriend she did end up
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going for she end up going to jail as well and a lot of people
going down the self pee wee. But then a lot of people think
that it could be a big lie. But I don't know, man.
I mean, he, he, he's been prettythorough with everything so far.
He's been pretty thorough so far.
But anyway, I am going to stop here because as I can see now
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that this next part of the episode, because we've been
recording this joint man about agood hour and 15 minutes, which
I'll probably be about after I edit a little bit.
It'll probably about a about almost 50 some minutes.
We're going to talk about how more bodies are starting to come
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up with Pee Wee Gaskins in the trial.
And let me tell y'all that next episode about the the the the
trial is about to be wild like Pee Wee Gaskins trial and
mannerisms and behavior is insane and the reason why this
is going to be probably wound upbeing a five part.
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Series what it looking like is because it is so much
information about this case. I mean the peewee gasket story
is a lot because even after the conviction he still got more
wild shit he's done Yeah man this is this is this is like a
little mini series and I hope y'all enjoyed supported also as
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well. But before I get off here let me
show you the picture of his niece that he did.
I know someone wanted to see that last time so I'm finna
share y'all that picture right now.
Now this isn't on picture of hisniece.
This is his niece. Rest in peace to Janice.
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Janice was a was a beautiful young lady and he killed his own
niece all because he just I guess he had that that thing
inside of him where he wanted her dead.
And you could tell that this picture here was probably maybe
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a little AI designed to make thecolor features because the
original 1 she's in black and white.
But still, she was a pretty young lady, very, very young.
She was only 15 years old. It should have been alive today.
She's born in 1955. We're talking about she would
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have been turning 70 this year. 70.
Sad, isn't it? Her own uncle just took her life
out because he's just a sick man.
And that's sad. But anyway, before I wrap up
guys, shout out to the cold cases.
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I want to tell y'all guys too keep following these news about
these cold cases because they'rereally the new technology of DNA
is really working. They just arrested a 93 year old
man at a nursing home for a murder he did back in 19/15/65
was or 67 something like that back in 1965, almost 60 years
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ago or right at 60 years ago. And he was a young man, he was
like 3132 years old. They came to the nursing home
while this band is either bitch you about to be on his last leg
and die and arrested him. Now is he going to make it a
trial? Probably not.
But that just let y'all know that they're not playing with
this DNA. They are really going out here
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and putting the cuffs on you. So if you got skeletons in your
closet and think because you 939495 or even damn near 100 and
they're not going to come and put you in jail, they will.
They are really doing it. But anyway, y'all please get in
the comments section, meet me there and tell me what you think
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