July 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Summary
This episode delves into the chilling true crime story of Jay and Marjorie Orban, exploring themes of love, betrayal, and murder. It recounts Jay's disappearance, the discovery of his remains, and Marjorie's subsequent trial and conviction for his murder. The narrative highlights Marjorie's manipulative behavior, her relationships, and the tragic impact of her actions on her family.
Takeaways
The podcast introduces the 'No Bullshit Crew' and expresses gratitude for listener support.
Joel emphasizes the importance of audience engagement for podcast growth.
The story revolves around Jay Orban and his wife Marjorie, exploring themes of love and betrayal.
Marjorie's childhood and desire for attention shaped her tumultuous relationships.
Jay Orban was a successful salesman, contrasting Marjorie's chaotic life as a showgirl.
The timeline of Jay's disappearance raises suspicions about Marjorie's involvement.
The gruesome discovery of Jay's remains reveals the calculated nature of his murder.
Marjorie's interrogation reveals her nervousness and contradictory statements.
The trial highlights the evidence against Marjorie, leading to her conviction.
The episode concludes with reflections on the impact of Marjorie's actions on her son and family.
Sound Bites
"Marjorie craved attention, glam in the spotlight."
"Marjorie was convicted of first degree murder."
"Marjorie thought that life didn't apply to her."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the No Bullshit Crew
03:35 Setting the Stage for a Gripping Story
06:23 The Life of Jay Orban and Marjorie Kingston
14:11 The Disappearance of Jay Orban
16:28 The Gruesome Discovery
18:46 Marjorie's Panic and Investigation
28:57 The Evidence Against Marjorie
34:12 The Trial and Conviction of Marjorie Orban
36:42 Reflections on Marjorie's Actions
39:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
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What is going on my bull no bullshit crew.
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on and start with today's story.Imagine your whole life you've
been working hard, you've been living the fast lane and all of
a sudden you find the woman of your dream that fits every
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category, that matches your personality and your actual
representation of success. What happens when that dream
woman that you are thinking of or feel like it's everything
that you have ever wanted and dreamed of, you went out your
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way and made her life the best type of lifestyle she could ever
want as a woman, as a wife, but she winds up being your worst
nightmare, A nightmare that possibly causes the end of your
life. This is what happened to Jay
Orban who was married to Marjorie and Orbin.
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So here is the players that we have in this story here that we
are going to discuss this lovelyepisode.
First player is going to be the victim, Jay Orban.
Second player is going to be thesuspect slash perpetrator,
Marjorie Kingston Orban. But with that being stated,
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let's be a man goes missing and handed his body turns up in the
Arizona desert and a beautiful former showgirl is hiding a
terrifying secret behind her smile.
This is going to be the story oflove and lust, betrayal and
murder. This is the murder of Jay Orbit.
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So we're going to go to the beginning and we're going to
begin in Boulder City, NV. On October the 2061, a girl
named Marjorie Anne Kingston wasborn.
Her childhood is shrouded in Michigan, but one fact stands
out. By the time she was 18, she
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learned she couldn't have children.
And that revelation shaped her life because Marjorie wanted to
have children more than anything.
That was her goal. That what she wanted to be known
for. The mother with the picket white
fence and everything that goes with it.
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But Marjorie also had another problem.
Marjorie craved tension, glam inthe spotlight, and she found it
as the Las Vegas showgirl dancing for for Garf on
choreographing and performing under the bright lights.
Her life was colorful and chaotic.
About her mid to 30s. Marjorie had been married like 6
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or 7 * A relationship with Fleeting Love was like a
performance. Power was the prize.
Now one of her most high profilefor romances was with Michael J
Peter. He was a millionaire nightclub
mode. Now she was his star performer.
They, you know, started spendinga lot of time together.
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One thing led to another and they were engaged.
That's until Mike cheated on him.
Then after that, Marjorie would later on in life have another
affair with a man named Larry Wisberg that she made at the
gym. He was passionate, private.
And later he's going to be pivotal to this case.
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But let's get let's let's continue to go back to Las
Vegas. OK?
Now we're going to do a rewind. This is 1959.
That's when the world got ready for Jay Order.
Unlike Marjorie, Jay's early life was a tabloid material.
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There wasn't no scandal. There was no red cop.
He was remembered as a hard working and charismatic
traveling salesman who turned trinkets into a business empire.
He Jay dealt in the Native American jewelry and rare
collection, rare collectibles. And those things were like back
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in the day and especially in the80s and said 90s, they were hot
commodities. You know what I'm saying?
People wanted that. Often he would be crisscrossing
the country in his RV and make high end sales.
Now one night, you know, Jay wasin Las Vegas.
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They was, man, I've been workingall week.
He was hanging out with his fellas, you know, with a couple
of guys that do like he does. You know, he's like, man, I need
to blow some steam if we go to one these damn showgirl clubs,
you know, see what the action is.
So Jay up, they having his drink, you know, probably eating
little wings and shit, having a good time.
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And all of a sudden, you know, they probably announce and
coming to the stage, Miss LovelyMarjorie and Kingston, you know,
you probably heard the announcements probably like I
see probably another world beautiful showgirl.
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It's cool. And when he seen this blonde
haired, blue eyed beauty, they said my man's a lousy.
He was intrigued. He was like, damn, I got to
headache in my life and she was magnetic.
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Now his back when he first Jaycefirst started dealing with
Marjorie back then, you know, they met, they got acquainted.
Kevin, Marjorie, you know, had anight of passion.
He was there for a little bit. They messed around.
Now, she had stated in several books that when they messed
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around like he didn't perform like the men she was used to
performing when she got instrument, you know what I'm
saying? His sex game wasn't as good as
they were. But she liked the fact that he
was always gentle and nice to her and it made her feel
beautiful, you know what I'm saying?
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So even though his, you know, stroke wasn't the stroke she was
looking for, his money and beauty and generosity would
always overcome. But at the time, Marjorie just
wasn't ready to be in a relationship with him like that.
You know what I'm saying? She wanted that showgirl life
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and then she had other big players that had way more longer
pocket paper than Jay had and she could deal with.
So while things is going off keywith Marjorie in her life with
the guy that we talked about Mike, right, one night, you
know, my man's is just like coming back in and he was like,
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you know, came back into town and was like, Hey, listen, I'm
you know, I'm trying to find this woman again.
I know she in in in Las Vegas and he see a once again as as a
headline. He see it right there on the on
the Billboard. So he was like, shit, OK, she
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here. All right, I'm going to reach
out again. And that's exactly what he did.
He reached out and he did his thing and told her, you know,
how much he cared about it and things of that nature.
And here we are now. Here's the thing about when Jay
got with Margaret while they were getting together and stuff
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like that. There were many sources said
that before they got married, that while they was married that
she made him understand and veryclear that he better have the
paper, the means and the technology to research for her
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to get pregnant and have a baby.That's all what she ever wanted.
If he could not provide that forher, she was out.
She made it very clear. Listen up.
I'm sitting down with you because you say you want me, you
love me and all that stuff, but I need that baby.
You need to make that baby happen some way, somehow.
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It's a done deal. So it happened after they
married. They had a son named Noah.
And, you know, Jay's a proud father.
They settled into a beautiful home in Phoenix.
Jay adored his family. But Marjorie, you know, she
started to get bored market, like, you know, I'm cool, we're
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having a sun and, you know, being married, damn, I'm bored.
Like, I know there's got to be more to this than that.
I need some action. But we'll talk about that in a
few. So in September of 2004, All
right. And this is during Jay's
birthday. Jay traveled to Florida for a
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business trip. Now he was going to return
around September. The eighth was his routine
because he was home for his birthday and then there was
nothing. So days passed, then weeks.
Everybody asked Marjorie, like, yo, you heard you, you know,
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like, hey, have you have you heard from Jay?
Her response was, listen, I haven't seen him in day, OK?
I don't know where he at. I really don't care at this
point. But I promise you he'll probably
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show up. Alright, I'm back.
Sorry. I was playing with that anyway.
So everybody was like some man, right?
OK. Because we know Jay.
Jay is not going to just leave and not get in touch with
somebody and everybody know he was praised by his son.
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His nine year old son was his world like he loved that little
boy and they know that when it'shis birthday, Jay like that like
to be with family and friends. You know he like to show off
Marjorie. So anyway, finally Jay's RV was
found to ban and his phone was not answering.
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No calls is going straight to voice.
That's the point. The voicemail was fooled.
So fame is now alone, especiallyhis Mama, cause mama's like and
she's like one of the major peakpieces in this and peak pieces
on P on the key puzzle. Sorry, key pieces or puzzle in
this investigation. She's telling the the cops like,
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listen, I'm telling you here andI'm telling you right now, my
son always home for his birthday.
He don't travel like that. And he would have called me by
now that that's not how it works.
So eventually they reported him missing.
And in the Arizona desert, someone made a gruesome
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discovery. October the 23rd, 2004, in a
remote area on the outskirts of Phoenix.
A large rubble made container was found inside, wrapped in
plastic and severely decomposed for the torso and limbs of the
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man. But there's no head, there's no
hands, there's no feet. But there is available general
records that they could use to identify the remains as Jay or
now investigators were horrified.
But this is not a simple homicide.
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It was cold, it was calculated and it was Bruce.
Behind the curtain on this Marjorie on Marjorie Urban story
is beginning to unwrap. And here's some of the excerpts
from them. Trying to get in touch with her
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the first time about Jay Orban. I'm going to pelay this.
This is roughly about 5 minutes of of of the conversation.
We'll let you guys hear. And then for there, we're going
to let y'all be the judge of what y'all, what y'all think is
really going on here. Again, this is fair use, fair
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use, fair use. We're going to let y'all hear
from it and go from there. To the evening, I'm just calling
to see if you were callable needing to speak with you
regarding the disappearance. Hello, this is laundry.
Orban, I saw that you had this call.
Yeah, thanks for calling back, Martin.
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Hey, I was wondering, do you have some time to talk about the
investigation and how to go withthat?
All right, so you saw that and you heard that.
So this is really spazzing out because she is in a panic now.
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What you just seen is the posterchild of what not to do if you
are under investigation for possibly hurting your spouse,
for one, yeah, don't go and argue with the investigators,
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OK? That's number one.
Number two, you show up at the time that they're asking you to
show up in the interrogation room.
And three, you do not answer thephone with your lover right
there in the room while you are on under investigation.
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And four, you are supposed to divulge everything that pertains
to your relationship with that individual that is missing.
That's common sense. So as you can hear from that,
Marjorie was unhinged. She was already showing that she
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was nervous, she was freaking out, and she was being under
that pressure. Now let's talk about why they
were divorced. I didn't get to that part, but
Marjorie and Jay got divorced because Jay has some things
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going on with his business, somekind of legal matter or
something of that nature, and hedidn't want her to get roped
into it. So he came up with the idea that
they get a divorce. So she wouldn't be legally roped
into it, but they would live as husband and wife and he also
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decided to go with that play forthe rest of their days being
together. But see what Jay didn't know is
Marjorie and already was three steps ahead that she felt like
when we got together and on paper she I could do what I
want. Now after this is going on, when
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you hear this interrogation, this phone interview that she
had with the detective after they tried to get in touch with
her for 3-3 days in a row. This is what the police had
starting to discover about Marjorie.
In the time after finding Jay's body, she was drawn large sums
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of money. She brought a luxury SUV and
then they also find out why doing on the call that she
started getting her back blown out by Larry Weisberg.
Can I get that? Can I get to get that that
clapping sound? Yeah, he was clapping it all up.
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Like literally the day he went missing, he moved in.
But we will get further to that now.
The gym lover that she been seeing before and after the
murder. Now she did tell the
investigators a string of contradictory stories and I'm
about to display you a clip of her interrogation where she
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lined her ass up. Let me let me give you a a a a a
summary of these lies. I'm telling you man, y'all need
it. I'm I'm not a a lawyer.
We get a call out there that that there's a credit card in
your husband's name here. Oh, sorry, before I started, I'm
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not a lawyer at any means, but this should be common sense.
Guys. If you know you in a you're in a
jam, you need to if you know youin the jam, you need to do the
the following. You need to not say a word.
You need to tell them I'm not saying anything without my
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attorney. You better do it because I'm
telling you once you start spilling trying to think you can
outsmart these guys, these investigators, they going to
have you hang the drop. Now, I don't know what your
attorney going to tell you. Some cases your attorney might
tell you you go out and tell tell incriminating evidence.
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I don't know, but I do know this.
I'd rather use my attorney to help me than to me doing it
myself. Let's continue with this
interrogation. Good.
We get a call out there that that there's a credit card in
your husband's name and your husband's missing.
Tell me what the story is, because apparently you've been
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using a credit card for no problem, right?
I always have my husband is missing and he is not here
generating and we both granted he ran this isn't I helped him.
So for seven years you have thisaccount.
It has his name on it. His name on it.
And it says J. It says J period M period Orban.
OK. And the debit card and I just
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used the debit card. And.
For seven years and am I gettingmyself in big trouble saying
that I. I don't.
I don't see it if you got two people's names.
I have one of my daughter's nameby his name.
No, it says J period M so that. Means no No J Michael Orban.
Oh oh. There's his account.
I thought it was like J slash. His account that he had me use
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it and. He knew about it, of course, and
he would put in the money. Yeah, OK.
This in the past, this drug card, they saw the Circuit City
said you bought stuff with no problem.
I. Don't know why they are saying
they've closed Jay's accounts. Everything's in Jay's name
because it Nothing can be in my name because if anything's in my
name, the IRS problems. Can attach.
So we just, I put myself at risk, you know, of not being
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able to accumulate, you know, Community property, accumulated
status or rights or whatever. And I didn't care because, I
mean, she would never, you know,do anything against me or
anything. But I guess it says it showed up
that he's deceased. I know Detective Lawrence has
been working on this missing persons thing.
And I'm really upset with him because he brought us in to tell
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us that he thinks that they found my husband.
I'm sorry. So he's my husband in my mind.
They told his parents that they're hurts him.
His parents are in their 70s andjust completely distraught and
completely they're they're olderphysically than than their age.
They're they're not well. And again, if it's through hell
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and then it's struck and he toldthem that the homosexuality
before the DNA, before the test,it was very responsible because
his mother's just going to die. What do you think?
I don't know. Don't know.
At first I thought he'd just come walk into the door any
minute. I don't know.
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I know I hadn't told my son thatwhen he says did daddy forgot
us, he knew that that's to have his father forgot my butts.
I'm not what I'm talking about this matter.
I hadn't told you. I'm sure that something terrible
has happened. They don't know what anymore.
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They have that accident or some bad cars would have brought them
and or if something bad might have must have happened.
If he would not, he would not not call you.
Whatever I have to face for a mistake using the car, I would
happily I would face it. You know what?
The the. Car if I could just it's.
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Hard about J2 and do you know anywhere we could start?
Do you have an idea where it could start finding him and what
form would I want him back? Here what makes you so more than
anyone in this world, I'm just afraid of something I say being
misconstrued or taken out of context or read in a way that it
might not be fact. I mean, I have been told, well
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you, you bought this so you mustyou bought this.
So that meant that you thought that J wasn't coming back when?
No, that's not what it meant. I bought it.
That's what it meant. I bought it, that's all.
When was the last? Time you saw.
See, this is the thing. That I really am terrified of
sitting here and answering questions I want to answer any
questions that you want answering.
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I don't know the truth as effectively.
I don't tell you anything. You know, I have a little boy
and I'm terrified when I live inand we don't want to say
anything that may be taken out of contest or and and I would I
would is I mainly resume this conversation during the day with
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some of the school with the attorney president just to help
me just so just not to stop it. I'll talk to you, but just to
help make sure that I don't really know.
And I mean, and I mean I don't mind behind and how do I I don't
mean for anyone else. I don't mean that at all.
This mean I have to given what Ihave at say my life.
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You know, if I'm blamed for this, I I have to look at it.
That needs me. He needs his father too.
All right, y'all. So first.
Things first I want to tell y'all, she made another mistake.
You never, ever tell investigators that you want to
talk with your lawyer because you don't want to make a mistake
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that sounds to them like what you're involved.
You are trying to cover your ass.
All she had to say. Lawyer.
Ma'am, come on. We're really trying to find a
lawyer. Again, we see this all the time
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in these true prime cases. These people can save themselves
a whole lot of time and a whole lot of effort and maybe beat
some of these cases, not all thetime, but some of the time by
just saying one thing and one thing only.
Lawyer. So as she telling them the
string of contradictory stories,as you seen right here.
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Meanwhile, a search of the home revealed, dammit, evidence
traces of Jay's blood was in themaster bedroom and garage.
Like when they put that, they clean that agent.
They call it the the Lysol, not Lysol.
Oh, my God. I can't.
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I don't, I forgot what it's called.
But it's the spray that they they put and they they cut the
lights off and everything glows up for blood.
Yeah. Luminol.
Luminol. Yeah, it was.
It's a wrap now, the cleaning agents.
And what they seen the. Clean agents in the saw that was
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used. That's possibly could be used to
dismember Jay's body now. Surveillance footage showing
Marjorie buying plastic containers at a local department
store. I think it's either department
store or home or Home Depot or something like that or do it
yourself type of store. Investigators believe that this
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is what happened. They returned home, right and
confronted Marjorie about her affairs and she acted.
Some say she may have poised him, poison him or stroke him.
Either way, what came next was the unthink.
Now here's before I go further to that story, what she did next
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as the trial. If you look at the trial notes
and look into the trial, people talked about that Marjorie of
her close associates, even the guy that she was banging that
was giving, letting a blow that she was allowing to blow her
cheeks out. He even said that Marjorie had
an extensive workout. This woman worked out like 2 to
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three times a day and she did itfive to six days a week.
So when she tried to play with everybody and say, oh, I
couldn't pick up Jay because Jaywas a bigger man, debunked that
in trial because there was videos showing this woman
picking all picking up almost three times her weight with no
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problem. That's right, Marjorie was
around about at that time 125 to145 lbs.
But this woman was picking up weight up in the 200, almost 300
lbs with no problems squatting and dead lifting.
So you do the math on that. That's right.
She was a he woman. Marjorie was training.
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Yeah. So after she dismembered him
right using the tools from her garage and stored his remains in
their home while her nine year old son was playing with his
toys and stuff nearby in the house.
Later she drove into the desert and she dumped what was left of
him like trash. Now here's the kicker.
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While this is going on, Larry has moved himself out the house
every was like, yo, you told me you was not married.
Larry thought that this woman was separated.
Yeah, she she told she told him that they were separated, like
Jay didn't even live there. Now they think that Jay
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confronted her about the affairs.
But I don't think that what really happened.
I think what really happened is when when she knew that Jay was
coming home for his birthday. And I think she already had bang
Larry or whatever bang Larry earlier that day waiting on Jay
to come home. So while Larry probably in the
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bedroom like any other dude thatdoesn't been worked over
napping, you know, snoring and shit, she waited for Jay to come
back, come to that garage and I think she saw Jay.
She probably said, hey, Tay, howyou doing baby, blah, blah,
blah. You know, I missed you.
And then I guarantee you when Jay went to turn around with his
back turn or trying to get something or whatever, she
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already had it planned. She probably used something to
knock his ass out. Oh, as soon as she did that,
that's when she did what she hadto do to kill Jade.
I think that would happen. That how she unaligned Jay.
That's what she did now I know alot of people are going to say,
but Joelle, she did all that howyou sure she was able to pick up
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that body again Look at the trial.
This woman could live 2 times her weight.
Jay what nothing but like 2 two,25250 something like that.
She do a dead level almost almost they said that woman did
a dead lift almost into the 300,the low 300.
So I'm quite sure with adrenaline and with with
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precision, she went and she moved that man's body to where
she could do the dismemberment and put him in that tub and put
that tub and lifted that joint up like it wasn't nothing and
put it in that vehicle. That's what she did.
I'm telling you, that's what this lady did.
So in September 2005, nearly a year after the murder, Marjorie
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was arrested and charged with first degree murder.
Her trial began in 2009. Now, at this time, I'm quite
sure her child is a teenager. And the prosecution case was
chilling. The motive, Marjorie's secret
lifestyle affairs, the method, they said, the dismemberment,
the lies and the cleanup, the manipulation of calm demeanor.
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Even as Jay's body decomposed just feet from where her son
slept, her defense team insistedthere were no eyewitnesses,
there was no murder weapon, and no proof she committed the ACT.
But that jury wasn't feeling that shit, because in October
2009, Marjorie Orban was convicted of first degree murder
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and she was sentenced to life inprison without parole.
And now she remains incarceratedin Perryville State Prison in
Arizona. Now, Jay's son, Noah was just a
child when his father disappeared.
He's now a young man. And he was raised without a
father who adored him and the mother who betrayed them both.
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Now Jay Orban. 'S family remember him as a
gentle soul. A man of death wasn't just a
loss, it was a violent erasure of a man who lived with
generosity and trust. As for Marjorie, she's not as
beautiful as she used to be in avideo.
Nah, that beauty gone when you in jail, baby.
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Yeah. I mean, she still got her
breasts and stuff and implants in there that she paid all that
money for and everything of thatnature.
But I don't know about how everything's going with her
physical exercise because, again, you are in prison, in a
women's prison. And I don't think women
prisoners feel too kindly about their other female counterparts
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trying to look good for the guards when they can't.
With her lies exposed and her freedom going, this is where we
at. So that is the end of the story
of Jay and Marjorie Orbit. Now I will give you mine
synopsis of what I feel about Marjorie in this matter.
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I feel like that Marjorie was just one of those really thought
that life didn't apply to her. She wanted to be next level
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seen. She wanted to be the center of
attention and she knew that she was a gorgeous woman and she let
her beauty go to her head. A lot of people do that, you
know, a lot of people that look good, whether you're a woman or
a man. Sometimes we let our looks, our
ability to be blessed with thoselooks go to our head.
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And I think that Marjorie thought that with her looks that
she could possibly get away withanything.
And I think the reason why she got rid of Jade because she
wanted to be able to be free. She wanted to be able to free to
do what she want, bang who she want and do it all day every
day. But she knew that she couldn't
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bang in peace with Jay because Jay was not going to give up on
his family of her and his nine year old son that he had worked
so hard to give her. So I think that she decided
he'll be better off dead than alive.
She already had his power attorney.
She knew she's going to get somegood insurance.
She was on it, man. She was all about Margaret and
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about Larry. I'm quite sure Larry would have
been our next victim. I mean, women like this, they
don't stay with being long. They're always looking for the
next Smart. And Larry would have been the
next one like a damn fool. He would have been the next one
under her spell of being murdered.
So, yeah, I have no sympathy whatsoever for Marjorie now.
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I've been looking to see if her son still contact her, but I
don't see anything about Noah Orbin.
I know he is probably grown now.I think he's probably gone
grown. But yeah, I don't really see.
Yeah, I think that he is possibly.
Yeah. I think Noah, I think Noah is
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grown. Yeah, he's he's he's gone.
I think he's grown. I think that he's grown and I
think he build a living a successful, quiet life.
I don't think that he's really close to his, to his mother, and
I don't blame him. Because.
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What she did to him was real cold, man, real cold.
So either way it goes. That is the.
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on and start with today's story.Imagine your whole life you've
been working hard, you've been living the fast lane and all of
a sudden you find the woman of your dream that fits every
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category, that matches your personality and your actual
representation of success. What happens when that dream
woman that you are thinking of or feel like it's everything
that you have ever wanted and dreamed of, you went out your
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way and made her life the best type of lifestyle she could ever
want as a woman, as a wife, but she winds up being your worst
nightmare, A nightmare that possibly causes the end of your
life. This is what happened to Jay
Orban who was married to Marjorie and Orbin.
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So here is the players that we have in this story here that we
are going to discuss this lovelyepisode.
First player is going to be the victim, Jay Orban.
Second player is going to be thesuspect slash perpetrator,
Marjorie Kingston Orban. But with that being stated,
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let's be a man goes missing and handed his body turns up in the
Arizona desert and a beautiful former showgirl is hiding a
terrifying secret behind her smile.
This is going to be the story oflove and lust, betrayal and
murder. This is the murder of Jay Orbit.
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So we're going to go to the beginning and we're going to
begin in Boulder City, NV. On October the 2061, a girl
named Marjorie Anne Kingston wasborn.
Her childhood is shrouded in Michigan, but one fact stands
out. By the time she was 18, she
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learned she couldn't have children.
And that revelation shaped her life because Marjorie wanted to
have children more than anything.
That was her goal. That what she wanted to be known
for. The mother with the picket white
fence and everything that goes with it.
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But Marjorie also had another problem.
Marjorie craved tension, glam inthe spotlight, and she found it
as the Las Vegas showgirl dancing for for Garf on
choreographing and performing under the bright lights.
Her life was colorful and chaotic.
About her mid to 30s. Marjorie had been married like 6
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or 7 * A relationship with Fleeting Love was like a
performance. Power was the prize.
Now one of her most high profilefor romances was with Michael J
Peter. He was a millionaire nightclub
mode. Now she was his star performer.
They, you know, started spendinga lot of time together.
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One thing led to another and they were engaged.
That's until Mike cheated on him.
Then after that, Marjorie would later on in life have another
affair with a man named Larry Wisberg that she made at the
gym. He was passionate, private.
And later he's going to be pivotal to this case.
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But let's get let's let's continue to go back to Las
Vegas. OK?
Now we're going to do a rewind. This is 1959.
That's when the world got ready for Jay Order.
Unlike Marjorie, Jay's early life was a tabloid material.
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There wasn't no scandal. There was no red cop.
He was remembered as a hard working and charismatic
traveling salesman who turned trinkets into a business empire.
He Jay dealt in the Native American jewelry and rare
collection, rare collectibles. And those things were like back
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in the day and especially in the80s and said 90s, they were hot
commodities. You know what I'm saying?
People wanted that. Often he would be crisscrossing
the country in his RV and make high end sales.
Now one night, you know, Jay wasin Las Vegas.
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They was, man, I've been workingall week.
He was hanging out with his fellas, you know, with a couple
of guys that do like he does. You know, he's like, man, I need
to blow some steam if we go to one these damn showgirl clubs,
you know, see what the action is.
So Jay up, they having his drink, you know, probably eating
little wings and shit, having a good time.
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And all of a sudden, you know, they probably announce and
coming to the stage, Miss LovelyMarjorie and Kingston, you know,
you probably heard the announcements probably like I
see probably another world beautiful showgirl.
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It's cool. And when he seen this blonde
haired, blue eyed beauty, they said my man's a lousy.
He was intrigued. He was like, damn, I got to
headache in my life and she was magnetic.
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Now his back when he first Jaycefirst started dealing with
Marjorie back then, you know, they met, they got acquainted.
Kevin, Marjorie, you know, had anight of passion.
He was there for a little bit. They messed around.
Now, she had stated in several books that when they messed
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around like he didn't perform like the men she was used to
performing when she got instrument, you know what I'm
saying? His sex game wasn't as good as
they were. But she liked the fact that he
was always gentle and nice to her and it made her feel
beautiful, you know what I'm saying?
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So even though his, you know, stroke wasn't the stroke she was
looking for, his money and beauty and generosity would
always overcome. But at the time, Marjorie just
wasn't ready to be in a relationship with him like that.
You know what I'm saying? She wanted that showgirl life
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and then she had other big players that had way more longer
pocket paper than Jay had and she could deal with.
So while things is going off keywith Marjorie in her life with
the guy that we talked about Mike, right, one night, you
know, my man's is just like coming back in and he was like,
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you know, came back into town and was like, Hey, listen, I'm
you know, I'm trying to find this woman again.
I know she in in in Las Vegas and he see a once again as as a
headline. He see it right there on the on
the Billboard. So he was like, shit, OK, she
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here. All right, I'm going to reach
out again. And that's exactly what he did.
He reached out and he did his thing and told her, you know,
how much he cared about it and things of that nature.
And here we are now. Here's the thing about when Jay
got with Margaret while they were getting together and stuff
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like that. There were many sources said
that before they got married, that while they was married that
she made him understand and veryclear that he better have the
paper, the means and the technology to research for her
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to get pregnant and have a baby.That's all what she ever wanted.
If he could not provide that forher, she was out.
She made it very clear. Listen up.
I'm sitting down with you because you say you want me, you
love me and all that stuff, but I need that baby.
You need to make that baby happen some way, somehow.
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It's a done deal. So it happened after they
married. They had a son named Noah.
And, you know, Jay's a proud father.
They settled into a beautiful home in Phoenix.
Jay adored his family. But Marjorie, you know, she
started to get bored market, like, you know, I'm cool, we're
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having a sun and, you know, being married, damn, I'm bored.
Like, I know there's got to be more to this than that.
I need some action. But we'll talk about that in a
few. So in September of 2004, All
right. And this is during Jay's
birthday. Jay traveled to Florida for a
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business trip. Now he was going to return
around September. The eighth was his routine
because he was home for his birthday and then there was
nothing. So days passed, then weeks.
Everybody asked Marjorie, like, yo, you heard you, you know,
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like, hey, have you have you heard from Jay?
Her response was, listen, I haven't seen him in day, OK?
I don't know where he at. I really don't care at this
point. But I promise you he'll probably
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show up. Alright, I'm back.
Sorry. I was playing with that anyway.
So everybody was like some man, right?
OK. Because we know Jay.
Jay is not going to just leave and not get in touch with
somebody and everybody know he was praised by his son.
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His nine year old son was his world like he loved that little
boy and they know that when it'shis birthday, Jay like that like
to be with family and friends. You know he like to show off
Marjorie. So anyway, finally Jay's RV was
found to ban and his phone was not answering.
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No calls is going straight to voice.
That's the point. The voicemail was fooled.
So fame is now alone, especiallyhis Mama, cause mama's like and
she's like one of the major peakpieces in this and peak pieces
on P on the key puzzle. Sorry, key pieces or puzzle in
this investigation. She's telling the the cops like,
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listen, I'm telling you here andI'm telling you right now, my
son always home for his birthday.
He don't travel like that. And he would have called me by
now that that's not how it works.
So eventually they reported him missing.
And in the Arizona desert, someone made a gruesome
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discovery. October the 23rd, 2004, in a
remote area on the outskirts of Phoenix.
A large rubble made container was found inside, wrapped in
plastic and severely decomposed for the torso and limbs of the
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man. But there's no head, there's no
hands, there's no feet. But there is available general
records that they could use to identify the remains as Jay or
now investigators were horrified.
But this is not a simple homicide.
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It was cold, it was calculated and it was Bruce.
Behind the curtain on this Marjorie on Marjorie Urban story
is beginning to unwrap. And here's some of the excerpts
from them. Trying to get in touch with her
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the first time about Jay Orban. I'm going to pelay this.
This is roughly about 5 minutes of of of the conversation.
We'll let you guys hear. And then for there, we're going
to let y'all be the judge of what y'all, what y'all think is
really going on here. Again, this is fair use, fair
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use, fair use. We're going to let y'all hear
from it and go from there. To the evening, I'm just calling
to see if you were callable needing to speak with you
regarding the disappearance. Hello, this is laundry.
Orban, I saw that you had this call.
Yeah, thanks for calling back, Martin.
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Hey, I was wondering, do you have some time to talk about the
investigation and how to go withthat?
All right, so you saw that and you heard that.
So this is really spazzing out because she is in a panic now.
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What you just seen is the posterchild of what not to do if you
are under investigation for possibly hurting your spouse,
for one, yeah, don't go and argue with the investigators,
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OK? That's number one.
Number two, you show up at the time that they're asking you to
show up in the interrogation room.
And three, you do not answer thephone with your lover right
there in the room while you are on under investigation.
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And four, you are supposed to divulge everything that pertains
to your relationship with that individual that is missing.
That's common sense. So as you can hear from that,
Marjorie was unhinged. She was already showing that she
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was nervous, she was freaking out, and she was being under
that pressure. Now let's talk about why they
were divorced. I didn't get to that part, but
Marjorie and Jay got divorced because Jay has some things
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going on with his business, somekind of legal matter or
something of that nature, and hedidn't want her to get roped
into it. So he came up with the idea that
they get a divorce. So she wouldn't be legally roped
into it, but they would live as husband and wife and he also
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decided to go with that play forthe rest of their days being
together. But see what Jay didn't know is
Marjorie and already was three steps ahead that she felt like
when we got together and on paper she I could do what I
want. Now after this is going on, when
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you hear this interrogation, this phone interview that she
had with the detective after they tried to get in touch with
her for 3-3 days in a row. This is what the police had
starting to discover about Marjorie.
In the time after finding Jay's body, she was drawn large sums
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of money. She brought a luxury SUV and
then they also find out why doing on the call that she
started getting her back blown out by Larry Weisberg.
Can I get that? Can I get to get that that
clapping sound? Yeah, he was clapping it all up.
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Like literally the day he went missing, he moved in.
But we will get further to that now.
The gym lover that she been seeing before and after the
murder. Now she did tell the
investigators a string of contradictory stories and I'm
about to display you a clip of her interrogation where she
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lined her ass up. Let me let me give you a a a a a
summary of these lies. I'm telling you man, y'all need
it. I'm I'm not a a lawyer.
We get a call out there that that there's a credit card in
your husband's name here. Oh, sorry, before I started, I'm
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not a lawyer at any means, but this should be common sense.
Guys. If you know you in a you're in a
jam, you need to if you know youin the jam, you need to do the
the following. You need to not say a word.
You need to tell them I'm not saying anything without my
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attorney. You better do it because I'm
telling you once you start spilling trying to think you can
outsmart these guys, these investigators, they going to
have you hang the drop. Now, I don't know what your
attorney going to tell you. Some cases your attorney might
tell you you go out and tell tell incriminating evidence.
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I don't know, but I do know this.
I'd rather use my attorney to help me than to me doing it
myself. Let's continue with this
interrogation. Good.
We get a call out there that that there's a credit card in
your husband's name and your husband's missing.
Tell me what the story is, because apparently you've been
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using a credit card for no problem, right?
I always have my husband is missing and he is not here
generating and we both granted he ran this isn't I helped him.
So for seven years you have thisaccount.
It has his name on it. His name on it.
And it says J. It says J period M period Orban.
OK. And the debit card and I just
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used the debit card. And.
For seven years and am I gettingmyself in big trouble saying
that I. I don't.
I don't see it if you got two people's names.
I have one of my daughter's nameby his name.
No, it says J period M so that. Means no No J Michael Orban.
Oh oh. There's his account.
I thought it was like J slash. His account that he had me use
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it and. He knew about it, of course, and
he would put in the money. Yeah, OK.
This in the past, this drug card, they saw the Circuit City
said you bought stuff with no problem.
I. Don't know why they are saying
they've closed Jay's accounts. Everything's in Jay's name
because it Nothing can be in my name because if anything's in my
name, the IRS problems. Can attach.
So we just, I put myself at risk, you know, of not being
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able to accumulate, you know, Community property, accumulated
status or rights or whatever. And I didn't care because, I
mean, she would never, you know,do anything against me or
anything. But I guess it says it showed up
that he's deceased. I know Detective Lawrence has
been working on this missing persons thing.
And I'm really upset with him because he brought us in to tell
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us that he thinks that they found my husband.
I'm sorry. So he's my husband in my mind.
They told his parents that they're hurts him.
His parents are in their 70s andjust completely distraught and
completely they're they're olderphysically than than their age.
They're they're not well. And again, if it's through hell
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and then it's struck and he toldthem that the homosexuality
before the DNA, before the test,it was very responsible because
his mother's just going to die. What do you think?
I don't know. Don't know.
At first I thought he'd just come walk into the door any
minute. I don't know.
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I know I hadn't told my son thatwhen he says did daddy forgot
us, he knew that that's to have his father forgot my butts.
I'm not what I'm talking about this matter.
I hadn't told you. I'm sure that something terrible
has happened. They don't know what anymore.
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They have that accident or some bad cars would have brought them
and or if something bad might have must have happened.
If he would not, he would not not call you.
Whatever I have to face for a mistake using the car, I would
happily I would face it. You know what?
The the. Car if I could just it's.
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Hard about J2 and do you know anywhere we could start?
Do you have an idea where it could start finding him and what
form would I want him back? Here what makes you so more than
anyone in this world, I'm just afraid of something I say being
misconstrued or taken out of context or read in a way that it
might not be fact. I mean, I have been told, well
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you, you bought this so you mustyou bought this.
So that meant that you thought that J wasn't coming back when?
No, that's not what it meant. I bought it.
That's what it meant. I bought it, that's all.
When was the last? Time you saw.
See, this is the thing. That I really am terrified of
sitting here and answering questions I want to answer any
questions that you want answering.
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I don't know the truth as effectively.
I don't tell you anything. You know, I have a little boy
and I'm terrified when I live inand we don't want to say
anything that may be taken out of contest or and and I would I
would is I mainly resume this conversation during the day with
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some of the school with the attorney president just to help
me just so just not to stop it. I'll talk to you, but just to
help make sure that I don't really know.
And I mean, and I mean I don't mind behind and how do I I don't
mean for anyone else. I don't mean that at all.
This mean I have to given what Ihave at say my life.
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You know, if I'm blamed for this, I I have to look at it.
That needs me. He needs his father too.
All right, y'all. So first.
Things first I want to tell y'all, she made another mistake.
You never, ever tell investigators that you want to
talk with your lawyer because you don't want to make a mistake
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that sounds to them like what you're involved.
You are trying to cover your ass.
All she had to say. Lawyer.
Ma'am, come on. We're really trying to find a
lawyer. Again, we see this all the time
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in these true prime cases. These people can save themselves
a whole lot of time and a whole lot of effort and maybe beat
some of these cases, not all thetime, but some of the time by
just saying one thing and one thing only.
Lawyer. So as she telling them the
string of contradictory stories,as you seen right here.
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Meanwhile, a search of the home revealed, dammit, evidence
traces of Jay's blood was in themaster bedroom and garage.
Like when they put that, they clean that agent.
They call it the the Lysol, not Lysol.
Oh, my God. I can't.
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I don't, I forgot what it's called.
But it's the spray that they they put and they they cut the
lights off and everything glows up for blood.
Yeah. Luminol.
Luminol. Yeah, it was.
It's a wrap now, the cleaning agents.
And what they seen the. Clean agents in the saw that was
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used. That's possibly could be used to
dismember Jay's body now. Surveillance footage showing
Marjorie buying plastic containers at a local department
store. I think it's either department
store or home or Home Depot or something like that or do it
yourself type of store. Investigators believe that this
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is what happened. They returned home, right and
confronted Marjorie about her affairs and she acted.
Some say she may have poised him, poison him or stroke him.
Either way, what came next was the unthink.
Now here's before I go further to that story, what she did next
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as the trial. If you look at the trial notes
and look into the trial, people talked about that Marjorie of
her close associates, even the guy that she was banging that
was giving, letting a blow that she was allowing to blow her
cheeks out. He even said that Marjorie had
an extensive workout. This woman worked out like 2 to
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three times a day and she did itfive to six days a week.
So when she tried to play with everybody and say, oh, I
couldn't pick up Jay because Jaywas a bigger man, debunked that
in trial because there was videos showing this woman
picking all picking up almost three times her weight with no
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problem. That's right, Marjorie was
around about at that time 125 to145 lbs.
But this woman was picking up weight up in the 200, almost 300
lbs with no problems squatting and dead lifting.
So you do the math on that. That's right.
She was a he woman. Marjorie was training.
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Yeah. So after she dismembered him
right using the tools from her garage and stored his remains in
their home while her nine year old son was playing with his
toys and stuff nearby in the house.
Later she drove into the desert and she dumped what was left of
him like trash. Now here's the kicker.
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While this is going on, Larry has moved himself out the house
every was like, yo, you told me you was not married.
Larry thought that this woman was separated.
Yeah, she she told she told him that they were separated, like
Jay didn't even live there. Now they think that Jay
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confronted her about the affairs.
But I don't think that what really happened.
I think what really happened is when when she knew that Jay was
coming home for his birthday. And I think she already had bang
Larry or whatever bang Larry earlier that day waiting on Jay
to come home. So while Larry probably in the
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bedroom like any other dude thatdoesn't been worked over
napping, you know, snoring and shit, she waited for Jay to come
back, come to that garage and I think she saw Jay.
She probably said, hey, Tay, howyou doing baby, blah, blah,
blah. You know, I missed you.
And then I guarantee you when Jay went to turn around with his
back turn or trying to get something or whatever, she
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already had it planned. She probably used something to
knock his ass out. Oh, as soon as she did that,
that's when she did what she hadto do to kill Jade.
I think that would happen. That how she unaligned Jay.
That's what she did now I know alot of people are going to say,
but Joelle, she did all that howyou sure she was able to pick up
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that body again Look at the trial.
This woman could live 2 times her weight.
Jay what nothing but like 2 two,25250 something like that.
She do a dead level almost almost they said that woman did
a dead lift almost into the 300,the low 300.
So I'm quite sure with adrenaline and with with
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precision, she went and she moved that man's body to where
she could do the dismemberment and put him in that tub and put
that tub and lifted that joint up like it wasn't nothing and
put it in that vehicle. That's what she did.
I'm telling you, that's what this lady did.
So in September 2005, nearly a year after the murder, Marjorie
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was arrested and charged with first degree murder.
Her trial began in 2009. Now, at this time, I'm quite
sure her child is a teenager. And the prosecution case was
chilling. The motive, Marjorie's secret
lifestyle affairs, the method, they said, the dismemberment,
the lies and the cleanup, the manipulation of calm demeanor.
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Even as Jay's body decomposed just feet from where her son
slept, her defense team insistedthere were no eyewitnesses,
there was no murder weapon, and no proof she committed the ACT.
But that jury wasn't feeling that shit, because in October
2009, Marjorie Orban was convicted of first degree murder
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and she was sentenced to life inprison without parole.
And now she remains incarceratedin Perryville State Prison in
Arizona. Now, Jay's son, Noah was just a
child when his father disappeared.
He's now a young man. And he was raised without a
father who adored him and the mother who betrayed them both.
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Now Jay Orban. 'S family remember him as a
gentle soul. A man of death wasn't just a
loss, it was a violent erasure of a man who lived with
generosity and trust. As for Marjorie, she's not as
beautiful as she used to be in avideo.
Nah, that beauty gone when you in jail, baby.
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Yeah. I mean, she still got her
breasts and stuff and implants in there that she paid all that
money for and everything of thatnature.
But I don't know about how everything's going with her
physical exercise because, again, you are in prison, in a
women's prison. And I don't think women
prisoners feel too kindly about their other female counterparts
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trying to look good for the guards when they can't.
With her lies exposed and her freedom going, this is where we
at. So that is the end of the story
of Jay and Marjorie Orbit. Now I will give you mine
synopsis of what I feel about Marjorie in this matter.
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I feel like that Marjorie was just one of those really thought
that life didn't apply to her. She wanted to be next level
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seen. She wanted to be the center of
attention and she knew that she was a gorgeous woman and she let
her beauty go to her head. A lot of people do that, you
know, a lot of people that look good, whether you're a woman or
a man. Sometimes we let our looks, our
ability to be blessed with thoselooks go to our head.
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And I think that Marjorie thought that with her looks that
she could possibly get away withanything.
And I think the reason why she got rid of Jade because she
wanted to be able to be free. She wanted to be able to free to
do what she want, bang who she want and do it all day every
day. But she knew that she couldn't
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bang in peace with Jay because Jay was not going to give up on
his family of her and his nine year old son that he had worked
so hard to give her. So I think that she decided
he'll be better off dead than alive.
She already had his power attorney.
She knew she's going to get somegood insurance.
She was on it, man. She was all about Margaret and
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about Larry. I'm quite sure Larry would have
been our next victim. I mean, women like this, they
don't stay with being long. They're always looking for the
next Smart. And Larry would have been the
next one like a damn fool. He would have been the next one
under her spell of being murdered.
So, yeah, I have no sympathy whatsoever for Marjorie now.
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I've been looking to see if her son still contact her, but I
don't see anything about Noah Orbin.
I know he is probably grown now.I think he's probably gone
grown. But yeah, I don't really see.
Yeah, I think that he is possibly.
Yeah. I think Noah, I think Noah is
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grown. Yeah, he's he's he's gone.
I think he's grown. I think that he's grown and I
think he build a living a successful, quiet life.
I don't think that he's really close to his, to his mother, and
I don't blame him. Because.
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What she did to him was real cold, man, real cold.
So either way it goes. That is the.
End of the show. Do me a favor guys, please if
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not commit any crimes because ifyou do, your ass going to wander
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