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What is going on? How y'all guys doing?
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It's your host Joel Davis. Want to say thank you guys once
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well. Also, if you are in Jessup,
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They are across from the actual check in area of when you get
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your X-rays and everything else.It's not too far from the gift
shop. It's right around the main
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of the building of the hospital.That is not emergency.
The non-emergency side. They're right there on your left
when you turn the left corner. Shout out to the guys over there
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at Amari Cafe. He does phenomenal, phenomenal
work. In fact, I forgot my man's name
tonight. He talked all the time.
Keith, Keith and his sons. Great crew of guys.
Any kind of coffee you want and it's not that high.
Their coffees are reasonable andgreat.
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You can get a large coffee for like 7 bucks.
They also got refreshers in about that same price point.
I've never got anything from them less than that.
They also are now selling personalized T-shirts.
You can go to them and they doing their T-shirts.
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So please check them out. Amari Cafe, Keith and his sons,
they are dynamic team and like Isaid, they open first thing up
in the morning at around about 9:00 and they close down at
about 5:00, which is every five days a week and they are not
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available on the weekends. And also let me run that back to
you about the M&K, the dealership, They are also open
five days a week. They open up at 8:00 and they
close at six, I want to say. And they are not open back up,
are they? They're Monday through Friday as
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well. They're not open on the
weekends, which is worth the wait because they are one of the
best in in the region right now.We're getting you with.
All right, enough about that. Let's talk about today's
episode. Y'all know that we just
introduced a new segment on the show called Black Friday.
That is right, Black Friday. I know usually I have one
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already in the chamber, but it'sbeen a crazy couple of days for
me at my job. They've been working your boy
like a Hebrew slave. OK.
That's what happens when you cook sometimes, but I've decided
on my day off to get it in and get some of these recordings
knocked out so that way you guyscan have this ready to go and
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don't have to be delayed. Now in this episode of Black
Friday, we are going to talk about someone who has became was
at the time alleged in Atlanta and D Cobb law enforcement Sir.
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Now I want y'all to picture thispicture that you have worked
hard all your life from the bottom up to get to the top
echelon of your niche of your career.
But along the way you started getting yourself in all kinds of
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shady dealings, doing things that you thought that nobody
will ever pay attention to or call you out on.
And then when you finally find yourself in the most deepest
heart of corruption of the lies of all of the things that you
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have allowed your ego and self loathing to get involved with,
you do something that is totallyunforgivable and also causes you
to lose everything you've ever worked hard.
That is the story of Sydney Dorsey.
That's right, Sydney Dorsey, this man went from a hero to a
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zero within less than three decades.
Now I know you're wondering how did he got to it so quickly and
let it thrown all the way? Well, you got to go to the back
story and tell you how his journey begins from being one of
the most beautiful examples of overcoming Jim Crow and
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segregation in the Deep South tonow looking at his life in a
place where he has to sit down. And you know when you get on
this, but when you get on this episode, this podcast, when I
say you got to sit down, baby, you got to sit down.
And not to mention tonight's drink that I'm drinking on which
I think that is like all the podcasts, like talking about,
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I'm drinking vitamin water. No, no, no alcoholic beverage
tonight for me. I do at occasions do introduce
y'all with some alcoholic beverages, but tonight it's just
not with vitamin water. Y'all need to try this one too.
It's blue Raspberry lime Elevate.
I love it. But again, you got to have an
acquired taste to enjoy Vitamin water.
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Not for everybody. All right, let's jump into the
stores. Cindy Dorsey.
It's early life and formative years begin on February the
23rd, 1940 in Atlanta. Mr. Dorsey came into this world
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now from my research. He grew up in a poor black
neighborhood. He was the son of a factory
worker and a mate now attending Booker T Washington High.
He was driven and he was very ambitious.
Now he's was in the military briefly.
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I don't know which branch or service if I really couldn't get
anything about that. But he also did him this still
some police training program. And then he got himself into the
Atlanta Police Department. And as soon as he got into the
Atlanta Police Department, starting off as a beat cop, they
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said Sydney took off baby. They said Sydney was the
example, the poster child for being a good cop.
In fact, he did so good that soon, by the time was getting
close to the 1970s in Atlanta Police Department, he got a
chance to work homicide in DeKalb.
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Now, if you don't know what the cab is, the cab is a county
slash city on the not to on suburb from Atlanta.
It's about about 20 minutes fromAtlanta of the city of Atlanta
over there. A lot of people call this the
nicer, most smaller pace of Atlanta because it's not in the
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heart of the city where all the raw, raw stuff goes on.
But that's pretty much it about the cab.
I would give you a more in depthbut I know y'all didn't get here
just to hear in depth about the cab.
You in here to hear about what the hell is going on with
Dorsey. We bout to do that.
So Dorsey at the time was like really thriving.
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People are looking up to him. He's dabbing here when he's
around everybody. He's got community loving them
some Dorsey at the time but he almost like the messed up on his
Rd. to being a superstar detective.
See it happened back in 1974. He shot and killed a 16 year old
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unarmed black teenager doing a routine traffic stop.
Now Dorsey said what happened was I guess he pulled the guy
over. I guess the guy was supposed to
be getting license registration and things of that nature.
He thought he was going to pull the gun and he shot the man.
He said it was the young man. He said it was self-defense.
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But the witnesses was like, Nah,this ain't it.
You lying. You that boy was not trying to
reach for anything or you was not in danger.
You was on a power trip and that's what the witnesses were
saying. But the case kind of took a
whole well, we just going let's let this one ride.
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Don't worry about it, Dorsey. You know, we just going to make
it basically disappear. So he didn't get no charges, but
his damn. But his reputation took a hard
hit because this early controversy hinted as a belief
he wouldn't face consequences. Now, y'all got to understand too
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that this is back in the 1970s, even though we're past the Jim
Crow era a little bit and we're into where the civil rights have
evolved after Martin Luther Kinghas marched for us and all that
stuff. Race relations in America,
especially for black men and women, were still shaking.
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A lot of black folks were not put as first when it came to
certain situations, especially when it came to law, law
enforcement. And if it was black on black
crime and that black person thatwas involved was a prominent
figure in law enforcement, 9 times out of 10 they really
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wasn't going to push because that's just how it was.
I know a lot of these Awokeans like to say, well, it's like
that now. It will to a degree it is, but
it wasn't like it was back then because back then it was insane.
Like really, really, really, really, really insane.
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Like they just did it without even trying to hide.
OK, there is a little subliminalhere and there now in 2025, but
back then, see, it was right in front of your face on front.
So between 1979 and 1981, Lana was going through this horrible,
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horrible, horrible episode of Children and young people as
well. That's right.
For 1979 and 1981 you had 30 black children and teens dying
and all of them was being dropped in this water under the
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this bridge area of the water ofAtlanta.
I don't know what river it was but y'all may have to correct me
and tell me about it. But that's where they would find
a lot of these children. These children were just just
getting knocked off. Now at the time, Dorsey was the
homicide detective in the castle.
He joined that task force and hebeen told the public that he was
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getting he was going to find whoit was that was doing it.
So while this going on, like in May of 1981, one evening this is
doing regular patrol trying to find out who this guy is is
doing all this. They is splashing water.
I hear a splash coming out from the bridge, like something hit
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the water. And when they hear this splash,
they stopped and they stopped a vehicle.
And in that vehicle was Wayne Willie, whose car was leaving
that scene. And they found two bodies
downstream. Now when this all happened, they
found evidence up the woozaw against Wayne Wig and he was
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convicted of the two adult murders and then they said he
was also part of all these children disappearing in
Atlanta. But it even got even crazy
because Dorsey later stated publicly that he believed
Williams was a fall guy and feared racial bias influenced
the investigation. But doesn't this it elevated
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Dorsey's profile and made him beable to run for chef?
Now this is what I thought to mewas really contradicted because
at first you said that the dude was it.
Now they had said that when first he said he was it, he was
confident. They got they got on corporate
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and they also had a lot of evidence that showed that it was
Wayne Williams. And I'm going to do a Wayne
Williams episode for Black Friday in the coming before the
end of this year. I don't know when, but he's
definitely on the list. But at the same time, whenever I
guess Wayne, it seemed like whenWayne Williams started getting a
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little bit of support of think of people believing that he
didn't really do all these murders because of he came from
a prominent family and, you know, he was a only child and
very spoiled. It was like, Nah, man, they just
put this on this kid because whatever, they need to find
somebody that was doing all these murders because black
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people was in a rage because they felt like the police were
not doing enough. I personally think that when
I've looked and researched it inthe past about Wayne Williams, I
personally feel like Wayne Williams was it.
But that's my personal opinion. I'm going to keep going on with
this story. So here we go.
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It is 1996 OK and Dorsey was elected to calves county first
black ship OK I mean he had a hell of a campaign.
Everybody was talking about Dorsey yo man Dorsey did
homicide and the hood love Dorsey like Dorsey just slid in
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that joint like it was nothing. But as soon as he got into power
his turn started becoming married and controversy because
in the testimony documents that we'll get to or why he's on the
trial revealed that the office operated as a briar robbery and
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loyalty machine demanding campaign donations and even
sexual favors from support. There are and you can also look
at an episode right now ID channel talking about abuse of
power with Sydney Dorsey. They said Sydney Dorsey was just
nasty, like if he liked the chick.
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Especially she was in the PoliceDepartment or whatever and let's
say she needed some help with something or she need to go to
him for guidance or anything like that job related.
And it was going to require him to do some time or or actually
do some actual put some good word in for you.
Sydney was like baby, what you going to do for me?
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I ain't talking about no gifts from belt or Gucci bag or
anything like that, baby. I want to know what that mouth
to do. I want to know if you're going
to be it over for me. Yeah, that.
Yeah, that what he was on. He was nasty now.
And I know a lot of you said, well, he was married that
matter. And soon if he could get, he got
in where he could fit in when hecame to using that power when it
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came to women. Now, when it came to some of the
guys too, it was always, well, Ineed you to do something for me,
man. You know, take care of the
little situation. Yeah, man, Cindy was out here
shaking and baking like he was amob or something.
Well, in November 2000, as in atthat time, the year before that,
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there was a guy that was tired of Dorsey's bullshit.
This guy was named Captain Derwin Brown.
He knew that the DeKalb County Police Department was riddled
with corruption. He knew that Cindy Dorsey was
all the way behind it and he wasjust sick of it.
And the whole black community was sick of it.
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They seen it. Even some of the detectives and
and and police officers in in involving this mess.
Like, yeah, man, we want a a department that's going to run,
right? Because right now we got Dorsey
running around here thinking that he the damn godfather.
So Captain Darren Brown promising to reform that office,
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they did a runoff and he beat Dorsey.
I mean, he breaks the he beat the brakes off doors.
And this is what Brown said quote to the press when he won.
I'm coming to clean house. But on December 15th, 2000,
yeah, that what he said he was coming to clean house, but it
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never happened because on December 15th, 2000, right,
there was a trash that is going to happen.
So here how it went down. So they had some kind of
celebratory dinner celebrating that he won his the election and
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everything and he was going to be Sheriff Filet.
So, you know, he with his wife, he with his daughters, his
family, you know, and they all in good spirits because you
know, they hero, they patriarch,he won.
You know everybody saying man, we can't wait for you to get in
here, Darren, you won't really set the tone, you know, all that
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good stuff. So after that he decide, well,
I'm heading to the house. You know, it was good seeing
y'all heading all house to my lovely wife and this and that
and the 3rd. And so whenever he got to the
house, just like we talked aboutlast episode, there's always
that damn driveway. He was ambushed and shot 11 to
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12 times in his drop. Now, when this happened, the
whole city of Atlanta and the whole county of the Cab County
was like, what in the hell just happened?
How in the world did the sheriffelect get assassinated before
the man even get a chance to be inaugurated?
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So everybody was was on it. OK, y'all give me give me one
second, all right? Y'all, I'm back.
I'm so sorry about that. I'm not editing this out because
y'all know this is how my life is like I'm always busy.
So again, sorry for the for the the interruption.
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So anyway, like I said before, everybody is shocked that this
happened. And what happened is that after
this happened with Darren Brown getting shot in his driveway,
the whole part of Atlanta in itsimmediate areas joined together
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and said the father, we are going to nail the person that
did this to Derren Brown to the wall.
And the first person they were looking at, you know who it was
old Dorsey. Now, Dorsey at the other hand,
you know, he left out, you know,he released a statement saying,
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listen, man, I would never shootanother law enforcement brother
of mine. I mean, you know, he beat me
fans square. You know, we had our
disagreements on the you know, about how he thought I was so
corrupt. But you know, I'm not the only
one out here that would have want to have that brother, you
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know, taken out like that. That ain't me.
I'm the cop, baby. I'm the police.
But you know what? I'm ready to step in and take
care of y'all like I've been doing since 96, you know what I
mean? Let's run it back, baby.
Let's do, let's do another folk peek.
That's what old Dorsey had in his mind.
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But that's not what the investigators was getting from
the evidence that's left behind.Let's see, there was some shell
casing that they found on the scene.
And then they had jailhouse confessions from people
basically saying, hey, man, Dorsey put me up to do this.
You know what I mean? So Dorsey just was to the point
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of like, damn, man, this, this, this can't be right.
No way, no way, no way. No.
But you know, you can't, you can't continue to keep being
dirty and thinking that nothing is not going to happen to you.
So anyways, they get all this evidence and they find out that
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he was the one behind the death of Captain during Brown and he
was arrested. Now, after being arrested, you
know, they had the trial, when they had the trial, all kinds of
stuff came about how long he been doing this and that,
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harassing subordinates. Everything came out of the
trial. Dorsey looked sick the whole
time. I mean, there were clips on his
trial that said that, yo, I can't believe it.
Well, he definitely couldn't believe it because after he got
convicted and found guilty on July 2002 in front of the a jury
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of his peers. Yeah.
The judge decided that the sentence that he deserved and
earned for all the fuckery that he been doing all these might as
well say a 30 plus years, 3 decades worth.
He need to be sit down for life in prison plus 20.
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Now, I want y'all to know that there is some things about that
happened after this because today Cindy Dorsey is still
incarcerated. He's in and one of those prisons
where prisoners that have very bad health has to be remanded
to. He's a shell of his self.
I looked at his incarceration picture and you can look it up
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yourself. He is currently I want to say
Dorsey is about 85 years of age now and he is withering away.
He did. I mean he is like the man I I
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don't think he got that much longer in life.
I mean, if you see his picture and you see how he used to look
the way he looked now, you'd be like damn, you know this is
crazy this is crazy. Now there is some other things
that also happened, endorsed hislife that I want y'all to be
aware of since he been in jail because a lot of people don't
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know this as well. Looking through my note trying
to find the sources. Hold on, hold on.
So while Sydney Dorsey has been in jail which is Sydney Dorsey
Senior. Back in January 29th, 2018, his
son Sydney Dorsey Junior was found fatally shot in North
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Ridge Trail in Ellenwood, Clayton County which is South of
Atlanta. Authorities discovered Dorsey
Junior's body faced down in the road and he had been shot
multiple times. There has not been no suspects
or charges that were identified by the Clayton County Police and
the homicide remains unsolved. Now Jordan Dorsey Junior was not
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clean either. He wasn't no Boy Scout.
He did like his dad. He had did 2 prison stints for
weapons and drugs convictions convictions on.
In September 2007, he was wounded in the leg during
another shooting incident outside an apartment complex.
Now he said he was robbed, though the police found a lot of
cash on him. There was no arrests that were
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made and the witnesses off offered no help for statement.
But now by 2019, investigators had identified a woman of
interest and requested tips. But I guess that case went cold
and they never got in touch or any contact with this lady.
Now, even though people might have thought that this could
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have been payback for what his daddy did to Duran Brown and all
the other twisted stuff in the corruptions back in the nine in
the 90s and the early 2000, well, back in the 90s, only
because in the 2000s got convicted.
There's no evidence of that. So it looks like it was a baby
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random or maybe to some local criminal activity that was going
at the time. And they kind of think that it
was he was probably the wrong place at the wrong time.
So right now that is a cold case.
And you know, Sydney's wife at the time she divorced him.
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I don't know if she's still alive or not.
And it just goes to show you guys that power comes with a lot
of responsibility. This is y'all know, this is the
segment of my thoughts. And as I look at in the story of
Sydney Dorsey senior, I see thatSydney Dorsey was a man that
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when he got that power and he used it for the first time, he
didn't look at it as great responsibility.
He looked at it as a tool to getwhat the hell he want anytime,
anywhere. See that's the thing about being
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a leader. You only got 2 choices when you
got power. You can either use it for good
or you can use it for bad. Endorse the case he was using it
for himself, which is bad. He wanted to be the one to make
all the shot calls, the final calls, have everybody in his
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back pocket. He wanted to be Mr. Atlanta.
Mr. Atlanta. But what Dorsey failed to
realize that even when you're a leader, when things don't get
done right or when lives get lost or when you continue to
have fucked up behavior, when it's time for you to atone for
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that as a leader, you going to atone to the Max.
There's no sympathy, there's no cutting slack.
It's the Max. And now I think that he realizes
every day because when you look at his pictures from over the
years while he's been incarcerated, he has went from
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Mr. Debonair with the nice hair and toupees or whatever he used
to wear to bald headed and debonair in jail somewhat to
now. He's old and frail.
He has nothing to show for. He has done all of those great
works. Instead of he being retired,
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maybe sitting at home somewhere in Atlanta, in a nice suburb
area. Maybe something like Buckhead,
sipping on some of the finest wines and champagne in the
evening and maybe doing a littlegrilling out.
Or maybe experiencing what it's like to have things DoorDash to
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you and your lovely wife. You in a cell in a wheelchair
have to have someone to actuallyhelp you get dressed, get up,
sit down and everything else andwhy this is happening to you.
You are in an 8 by 8 cell or maybe a dorm with other
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gentlemen just like you with ailments of their health
deteriorating and the only thingyou got look forward to is the
day that you finally put your head down to go to sleep or your
heart starts beating and you go on to the afterlife where you
get to find out are you going toheaven or hell?
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That is the story of Sidney Dorsey.
Guys, tell me what you think. Do you think Sidney Dorsey
overplayed his hand? Do you think that Sidney Dorsey
thought that this was all a game?
Please tell me what you think that made Sydney Dorsey turn out
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to be the way that his life turned out to be.
Again, thank you for chilling with me this time.
This clip is under an hour and be prepared for next week's, you
guessed it, black episode.