January 30, 2025 • 59 mins
What is an appropriate dollop size before it becomes a scoop? What makes a Good Stick? The boys tackle these problems before Eric tests Matt with a Pop Quiz.
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Eric (00:00):
Matt, you know how you're always saying to me that we
don't do enough visual bits forour audio medium show.
Matt (00:05):
I don't think that's what I'm saying.
All right, well, get a check ofthis baby.
Eric, you told me what was that?
A tattoo.
It's fresh ink baby.
You got a tattoo on your upperknee yeah, just above the knee.
What is it?
A noose.
Eric (00:21):
No, it is, it looks like a noose.
Matt (00:22):
No, it is looks like a noose.
It's a knot a noose is a knot,is it not?
Yeah, but matt, you've allright, let me get really good.
If you're gonna do this, let mesee the goddamn ink.
Eric (00:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me uh cold open let me, let me, let
me just go ahead and purchasebecause, you being an eagle
scout, yeah, that's what I'msaying.
Matt (00:39):
Let me see the knot.
Yeah, yeah, I can't get inthere.
Just let me know when you canpeep it.
Uh, okay, it looks like hold on.
Let me get close to the screen.
Yeah, it's a little out offocus, but I think it looks like
it could be like an odd squareknot.
Like you tied a square knotwrong and that's a weird tattoo
(01:00):
to get.
Also, eric, your room is adisaster.
Eric (01:08):
Yeah, it is speaking of visual bits.
Good lord, I know this is.
This is currently because thisis a mix of like.
This is mostly alissa's artsupplies.
This is like this is all.
Matt (01:16):
This has become pseudo so this is like your room of
requirement.
Yes, yes, okay, so what not, isit?
Eric (01:22):
it can't be a wrongly tied square knot it is uh, it is a
fictional knot uh, one of ourfriends, uh, we go on a river
trip each year.
I've talked about this yes, youhave, yes, bugles.
Our friend joe, who's an eaglescout, okay, uh, one year he
found a machine where he couldprint temporary tattoos.
Uh and a lot of our friends andstuff will uh do like art of
(01:46):
knots and stuff, um, or like theclassic, you know, not tattoo
stuff.
So we got temporary tattoos ofa knot he just made up like an
impossible knot.
Um, I call it the jolin thejolin the jolin knot and uh, I
had uh just a couple days ago,um, I like, like not tattoos and
(02:06):
stuff.
So I had a friend of mine, uh,who last year he's an archivist
and he became like hyperobsessed with uh stick and pokes
after receiving one.
He's one of those people where,like the second he decides to
learn about something, he justbecomes like like he dedicates
all of his time and energy to ituntil he's mastered it.
(02:27):
So he's been given.
He's been given out a, a stickand poke tattoos to the friends
and uh, yeah, and this was mine.
I'll probably get more at somepoint.
I'm probably gonna get a map ofthe shenandoah down my leg so
it's.
Matt (02:39):
This is a but.
This is a real tattoo this is areal tattoo.
Eric (02:42):
He spent two hours poking that into my flesh, sure.
Matt (02:46):
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, and what I'm going to doTalk to me about the placement.
Why above the knee?
I know you've talked about the,you know the cover up and stuff
for acting.
Obviously it's out of the way,but why there?
Eric (02:59):
I mean you could have put it anywhere.
Could have put it anywhere.
Um, I have plans for my arms.
Um, I don't really plan any.
I I would, wouldn't mind backtattoos.
The problem is, if I have atattoo, I want to see it and I
have plans for my legs as well.
So, like I have no, likethere's no, the above the knee
was the spot where I was like Ihave no feelings about like
(03:23):
anything.
So this is your first tattoo.
This is my second tattoo.
Then it got my little dots onmy wrist here.
Oh right, you have your dotsand, weirdly enough, my small,
the smaller of my two tattooswas done by a machine, by my
friend, uh, ellie, who's ainsanely talented tattoo artist.
And uh, yeah, a little knothere was done by, done by, uh,
(03:44):
done in my friend's living roomwith the utmost care and
sterility.
Oh, I think that.
I think that's very exciting.
But since it's a made-up knot,my run, the bit I'm going to
start doing now, which thank youfor being the first, is I'm
just going to approach everyeagle scout I know and ask them
if they can recognize thisclassic knot yeah it.
Matt (04:02):
It did confuse me because it did not look possible like.
And my initial bites?
They can't be done.
My initial response was well, Ican't tell him that that knot
doesn't make any sense oh, youwanted to protect my feelings I
was like I don't want to tell meas a tattoo of a nonsense.
(04:24):
No nonsense.
Eric (04:25):
I would absolutely get a tattoo, because that was the
other thing?
Matt (04:28):
Yeah, no, clearly.
Eric (04:29):
There's a lot of really good looking knots like he could
have tattooed on me, but thenagain then I'd have to learn how
to tie him.
Matt (04:36):
Yeah, absolutely.
Eric (04:37):
Who's got the time for that?
Much easier to get a mucheasier to get a Jolin.
Matt (04:42):
You know what, eric, I am proud of you and you know it is.
You know I was gonna save thisbecause you know you had a bingo
square.
Yes, thank you for my seguethat I was gonna get a, a tattoo
.
This is gonna be my uh.
What did alyssa call it?
My, my, not my metal year, myuh oh, this is your bad boy year
.
Eric (05:01):
bad boy year, that's gonna be a bad boy year.
Bad boy year, matt's going tobe a bad boy in 2025.
Matt (05:06):
I was going to say I really was going to save this.
Are you about to show me afucking tattoo?
I'm just going to show you this.
It's a mole.
What do you think about it?
Is it a little cancerous?
Eric (05:18):
Oh, bro, you got to get that checked out.
Should I get this checked out?
Matt (05:37):
Yeah, you got to get that checked out.
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna checkit out.
Well, hello everybody andwelcome to you.
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It's the podcast answeringlife's least pressing questions.
My is matthew shea, my name iseric poach and eric, how are you
?
Eric (05:48):
doing good.
Which quick, quick circle backfollow-up to the previous
segment.
Yes vis-a-vis cold open yes, ashe's giving it to me, yes, in
the middle of giving me thistattoo, he says oh, by the way,
because he has the exact sameone on his leg.
His leg is covered in all thesedifferent knots.
That he is because he practiced.
He didn't start practicing onhimself but, like, once he got
(06:09):
comfortable, he's like, yeah,I'm going to obviously do it to
myself.
If I'm going to do it to otherpeople, he's like, yeah, get
ready for a lot of people to askyou if that's a noose.
Matt (06:17):
Yeah, I mean, it is the first thing I said.
It does look, noose it's got ayou.
You do have a loop at the endof the knot for no reason, and
generally there's a loop with nopurpose generally goes around
something like a neck.
Well, that sounds like apurpose.
What I'm saying is when it hasnothing in it, like it's not
(06:40):
tied around something a stick ora post.
Eric (06:43):
So now I need to get a stick and poke of like a post or
like a eric something for thatloop to go around.
It is your body.
I'm gonna build an entirenarrative off of this.
Matt (06:54):
Not sure you might, as you might as well, but that's how
I'm doing, matt.
Well, that's good, eric, andI'm I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad to hear a tattoo.
I did not have a tattoo and, no, I don't think that mole is
cancer.
It's been there for a long,long, long time and it hasn't
moved everyone.
But I'm sort of getting myselfconcerned as I talk about the
mole, and that does remind methat bingo squares, or bingo
(07:19):
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Yes, I can't think of anythingmore exciting of a surprise,
eric, can you?
Eric (08:02):
I'm racking my brain.
I got nothing.
Matt (08:08):
Then rack it no more.
I say, let's get into it.
Eric Shall, we take somebody'squestion.
Eric (08:14):
Oh, yes, we shall, and it would probably be helpful if I
opened the question document.
Matt (08:21):
It would, but in the meantime I'll get you covered.
We're going to tackle a topic,a question that came up in our
discord, and dare I say, therewas plenty of discord about this
question.
It was what is an appropriateand it's sort of a conglomerate
(08:43):
question, it's not just from oneperson what is an appropriate
dollop size before it becomes ascoop?
And that came from Bootsy, zach, deuce, dairy King, 11, and
(09:04):
more and the rest and the rest.
But those three were leadingthe charge on on our discord
there.
Again, you can get to thatdiscord by joining our Patreon
link in the episode descriptionas well.
Eric, yeah, scoops, dollops.
We can agree that a dollop issmaller than a scoop.
Eric (09:18):
Yeah, I think we, you and I, both live in reality.
I think so, and we, we'vereached a consensus of sorts
regarding said reality.
Yes, a dollop is smaller than ascoop, do you?
Matt (09:33):
okay, do you think there's a what?
What if anything is smallerthan a dollop?
A zhuzh, a zhuzh, zhuzh it up.
Yeah, you zhuzh, zhuzh, zhuzhit up.
Eric (09:45):
Yeah, you zhuzh is a verb, you zhuzh it up, yeah, but like
to dollop something is also.
Matt (09:50):
But like to dollop something I've never heard of a
zhuzh as a noun, no, but wecould pioneer it, we, we could,
I, I would put a zhuzh.
Eric (10:02):
Okay, a zhuzh is more than a pinch.
Matt (10:04):
So you know how, like when you've got like I don't think
you can pinch any material thatwould be dollopable.
Eric (10:11):
Which is also part of this discussion.
We'll get there momentarily.
Okay, I'm just using closestequivalents.
So it's like if I'm puttingthing in another thing, a pinch
of something, but then there'slike an amount where it's like
more than a pinch, you mightpour a little just in that
little bowl of the palm of yourhand.
Just get a little like that.
I would, I would, I wouldqualify as a juge, okay, but
(10:34):
dollops and scoops I do this iskind of require a utensil.
They require a utensil also.
It's a square rectangle thing.
Um many, many things,regardless of their physical
state of matter, can be scooped.
You can scoop ice cream, youcan scoop raisins, you can scoop
gravel, but a dollop has to bea liquid based well, yeah,
(11:00):
liquid based, I guess do youknow what I mean.
Like it has to, it has to, ithas to.
I mean it has to be like wet,it has to be wet, but it's not
really a liquid.
I can't do a dollop of raisins.
Matt (11:10):
Because you put in a dollop of sour cream.
Eric (11:12):
A dollop of daisy.
Matt (11:14):
A dollop of daisy is, of course, what everyone always
thinks of, but like that's not,is that really a liquid?
Eric (11:21):
Not a liquid per se, but it is a non-rigid.
Yeah, some sort of buttery typeconsistency A buttery, a creamy
a goopy.
Matt (11:32):
I think you can put a dollop of butter.
Eric (11:36):
Yes, I agree with that.
Matt (11:37):
I agree with that you can put in a dollop of butter.
That is definitely dollop ofbutter, though I will say but
you can also liquefy butter.
Eric (11:42):
So that was going to be my point.
I think so, depending on howcold the butter is.
If it's like fresh out of thefridge, you're not dolloping
anything, that's a spill.
Is that smaller than a dollop?
That's a pat of butter, a spill.
Matt (12:01):
Oh, go on, give us a spill of butter, but again, then then
if you're spilling something,that implies true blue liquid,
yeah which you can't really dolike you can't get a dollop of
juice, oh where where does dashfall into this?
Eric (12:16):
like when we're talking like like a dash of bitters.
You know what I mean.
Matt (12:19):
I think dash is in the pinch family.
I think dash is in the pinchfamily.
I think it is in the pinchfamily Dash pinch a zhuzh, but I
think a dash, almost more thana pinch, I think belongs to a
powdery substance, a spice.
Eric (12:38):
It depends because, like a lot of sauces, do dash a dash
of Worcestershire.
Matt (12:43):
Yeah, but again, sauce is liquid not dollopable?
Eric (12:51):
No, dollops have to be goopy, they have to be runny.
I think that's the key.
It has to be something thatlike.
Matt (12:58):
Here's what's smaller than a dollop, a dot, a dot Put in a
dot of sour cream.
Eric (13:04):
Oh, a dot of sour cream for my baked potato.
Matt (13:09):
A dot or a drop.
I guess you could consider adrop, maybe A dot.
And how I would measure a dropof sour cream is I'd take a
regular spoon, I'd put it inthere and get a good dollop,
probably, of sour cream on theedge of the spoon and simply let
(13:29):
something drop off the end ofit and that is a drop.
Eric (13:33):
Yeah, no, I I fucks with that now, okay, so dollop, so,
dollop, so.
Matt (13:38):
So here's I love that we've started this question by
asking and answering somethingcompletely different.
Eric (13:46):
Several completely different somethings.
I will say this this is my hardline in the sand when it comes
to dollops.
Tell me, a dollop has to begotten in one swipe of the
utensil.
Yes, has to be whatever you canget in one thing in the utensil
.
Yes, has to be whatever you canget in one thing in the utensil
(14:06):
.
Matt (14:06):
Yes, because a scoop you might have to go back to
complete a scoop.
Eric (14:12):
Yes, there might be more, and that's where it is also a
square rectangle thing.
You can have multiple scoops.
You cannot have one.
Once you're doing multipledollops, you're just scooping by
another name here.
Matt (14:28):
OK, I was trying to see if anybody has weighed in in some
sort of official capacity on thesize of a dollop, and I'm not
seeing it.
Although lots of people aresaying the AI overview is saying
about a tablespoon which feelslike it's probably in the
ballpark, out a tablespoon whichfeels like it's probably in the
(14:49):
ballpark.
But this headline has led me tobelieve.
Eric (14:52):
Here's what's smaller than a dollop a tad, a tad, though.
Add a tad of sour cream, a tad,and what I would do is a tad
similar to what you were talkingabout is like a dot.
A tad is when you you do youget up a dollop portion but then
you just, if my hand is the,you just kiss, like you're
kissing it, like you're lettingthe natural like tension of the
(15:13):
of the materials carry some over.
But you're not poor, you're notlike a, you're not dumping it
on anything.
Matt (15:19):
I think to do a tad.
I would either take the verytip of a spoon and just get like
a tiny little, just a tinylittle scoop of just the front
of the spoon, or just take likea fingertip, like a fingertip
amount of whatever it is.
Eric (15:36):
Yeah, and add it to the borscht.
Just get right in the sourcream with your fingy, yeah.
Matt (15:40):
Just go right in and actually make a like a tunnel,
like go down.
Like you get the good stuff,yeah, like you're getting an or
of sour cream and Minecraft.
Side note Tell me.
Eric (15:53):
I.
One of the things that Iimmediately, instantly and
irrevocably judge someone overis if they open a container of
sour cream and then just startscooping like there's no other
extra step there.
Yeah, you got gotta give that amix, you gotta give that a.
You gotta give that a fuckingstir.
Matt (16:09):
That gross ass, I don't want that.
I don't want that cheese liquidor whatever the fuck at top.
Eric (16:14):
I don't know what that is.
I don't want to know what thatis.
Do not explain to me what thatis, man wasn't meant to know
what it is.
Matt (16:20):
Nope, we just know we gotta get it in there.
Same thing with the ketchupwater.
Yeah, no, no, ketchup water,that's it.
Shake it, you gotta shake it,you gotta and shake it, shake
well um, after you get it out ofthe fridge, you shake it well,
you shake it well.
Thank you, daisy.
Anyway, so a tad okay, so thatwe've answered the question that
(16:43):
nobody asked us.
Eric (16:44):
Yes, but so for me, as long as you're doing one one go,
that's dollop, and I'd say, theutensil in question is
important.
Matt (16:55):
There, I think you have to use a regular spoon, kitchen
spoon, if you are using a scooplike an ice cream scoop, you are
already infringing on scoopterritory.
Eric (17:06):
You have precluded a dollop at that point.
Yes, and I know the saying goesa dollop by any other name
would scoop as sweet, but nothere.
We have standards, do you?
Matt (17:17):
think two dollops make a scoop?
No, I do not Okay.
Eric (17:29):
You got any further thoughts on the matter.
So there's also a differenceand we we've touched on this
already in the application.
When I am dolloping something,it is a bloop like, it is a
you're, you're like dropping iton something.
Matt (17:40):
Yeah, it's generally a topper, it's generally something
that goes on top of a finisheddish if I'm scooping, I'm
dumping.
Eric (17:48):
There's a difference between like a like a plop and a
so like it.
You could have multiple, buteach of those is a dollar
because sometimes you know ifanyone's ever like walking you
through a recipe, or likethey're telling you how to like
they're walking through thefixings of their chili bar.
Yeah, like, oh, yeah, just hitit with some cheese, some onions
, give a couple dollops of sourcream.
(18:09):
Like a couple dollops is stillin the realm of dollop.
Matt (18:13):
Yeah, because I do think a scoop needs to have the shape
to it, and we all know the shape.
Eric (18:24):
Depending on the material, of course, but yeah, we need
that sphere.
Matt (18:29):
You should be able to see how the scooper approached the
carton of material by looking atthe scoop.
You can see the crest of thewave of it.
You know what I'm saying?
The fingerprints in the oilpaint, exactly as it bends
around itself.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
(18:50):
The artifice, the artifice, theartifice of the scoop.
Yes, yes, the scoop has anartistic quality to it, I think
yes, whereas a dollop is justsort of like a big drop it's a
big drop, it is.
Eric (19:07):
It is the fin it.
It's you.
A dollop usually impliessomething has come to a close.
And here there's the lastlittle bit, do you think?
Matt (19:19):
a scoop is a foundation, a scoop is a foundation, and it's
almost never by itself.
I mean no, no, it's usually atthe base of something like.
I guess people do get a scoopof ice cream, but why waste the
time?
Eric (19:33):
why like what?
What are we even here for?
Matt (19:35):
a single scoop a single scoop unless it's some sort of
place that is doing a scoop thatis the size of an orange.
Yeah, because some places do,do them.
Eric (19:46):
Biblical scoops.
Matt (19:47):
Yeah, and if that's their thing, you just got to know that
.
Eric (19:50):
You got to know that I have made that.
I've gone down that road before.
I was like I'll do two scoops,oh dear Lord.
Matt (19:57):
Wait a minute, Eric.
You're telling me youencountered an ice cream place
in which you couldn't handle twoscoops encountered an ice cream
place in which you couldn'thandle two scoops.
Eric (20:08):
No, I can handle two scoops any goddamn day of the
week, but it's it.
I can't recall the specifics,but I have been in a position
where I like, let's say, I'mdriving home from the ice cream
place and like, I get like, ifit's like, if I'm like gotta be
driving in one hand and I'm likecraving a waffle cone, I got a
cone in the other.
Matt (20:27):
Then you sit and you eat your ice cream before you leave.
Eric (20:31):
Sometimes it's not an option, my man, sometimes it
needs press.
It's 2025.
It's a dog, it's a doggy dogworld.
Matt (20:38):
Where are you encountering the need for an emergency
roadside assistance?
Scoop of ice cream, brother.
That's just called lifesometimes.
Sometimes, yes, sometimes.
But you pull over, you get out,you, you order the ice cream,
you sit, you contemplate yourlife, you ask yourself where it
all went wrong and you get backin your jeep and you drive on or
(21:02):
it's like in a situation where,like walking around, like, oh,
let's get an ice cream, likeit's just the general situation.
Eric (21:05):
Where, like walking around , like it's just the general
situation, I was like, oh shit,I was, I was prepared to for the
, the tight rope balancing act,that is, you know, carefully
eating my ice cream withoutgetting my hands sticky or messy
, and then sometimes like, oh, Idid not prepare for this, I was
not ready for this amount ofice cream to potentially get me
(21:26):
sticky.
I can crush ice cream all daylong, doesn't sound like it
sometimes?
I like to have a nice mosey asI eat my ice cream you okay.
Well, hold on, you can't moseywhile driving no, well, that
mosey is an on foot activity no,moseying is 100 an on, unless
you are in one of those littleclown cars that you see in
(21:48):
parades.
Those can mosey because theyonly go like two miles.
Matt (21:53):
Well, they're basically a living creature, yeah.
Eric (21:56):
Yeah, so I accept that.
Matt (21:58):
Okay, so in conclusion, what the hell were we talking
about?
Scoop V dollar right.
Conclusion what the hell werewe talking about?
Scoop the dollar right.
So how big do you think if wewere to put a measurement on it?
How big do you think is thelike outer limit of a dollop?
Eric (22:14):
the outer limit of a dollop is when you have to go if
you're going to put a dollop,or maybe a couple dollop on
something.
The second you hit.
The third dollop you've justdone a scoop.
Matt (22:26):
Okay, so you're saying three dollops equal a scoop.
Eric (22:31):
Three dollops.
What I'm saying is, once you'vehad to dollop something three
times, you may as well havescooped it.
Matt (22:37):
I agree with you.
I agree with that.
I think dollops can be varioussizes.
Eric (22:44):
Yes, oh, absolutely.
There's a massive differencebetween a dollop of sour cream
and like a dollop of like chilichili oil.
Matt (22:52):
So maybe what we should be asking is what is the minimum
size to be a scoop?
Ooh yeah.
Eric (23:01):
Okay, okay.
Matt (23:02):
All right, so picture Yep.
Let's say what I don't have mymy.
I had a ruler on my desk, butit's currently out in the snow
on my deck to measure this, soit's not here.
Eric (23:17):
That ruler in the great snow of 20 or 25.
Matt (23:20):
Toss it in the snow there, child so the before the
bootlegging man comesinvestigating let's say I'm
gonna use the old gap in theknuckles trick here then instead
.
So that's like two inchesacross.
Do you think a single inch?
That is not wide enough to be ascoop?
Eric (23:42):
no, I.
I so inch and a half, maybeinch and a half what?
What I would say?
I think it's about the motionyou employ, because for a dollop
you can scrape off the top.
Uh-huh, you can.
A dollop, you could just dip aspoon in and pull it back down,
and reasonably have, but for ascoop you have to.
(24:02):
That's what I, what I'm saying.
Matt (24:04):
It has to wave over it, like that painting.
It has to wave over itself andstart a compression.
There has to be a compression,the first thing.
I'm contorting my body now,speaking of visual bits, I'm
watching as if I'm ice cream.
You have to go in.
It has to be like oh, I'm thefirst thing touched by the scoop
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and, oh my God, I'm being bentbackwards, backwards and under
myself.
Now I'm under myself and I'mbeing smothered because the top
of me, the new, the newest bittouched by the scoop, is now
pressing down upon me, crushingme like so much weight.
This is the plight of JerryGarcia.
(24:48):
I think I hurt my fucking discdoing that little fucking stupid
thing.
Oh, the Ouroboros of ice cream.
But yeah, I do think it needs to.
At the very minimum, the scoopneeds to have been crested and
start tucking under itself.
Eric (25:05):
I will also say this this is just more of a vibe thing.
I feel like for it to be ascoop, there has to be the
appropriate level of.
There's no measuring.
Yeah, when it comes to a scoop,you're not like, okay, I'm
gonna scoop exactly one cup ofoats now.
(25:27):
No, no, no, you were, you'regoing into.
You have a big container ofsomething and you, when you
scoop, you do this knowing thata good amount of it's going to
spill out of the thing and likeback into the container it was
in, like there's that sort ofdollop.
You're not really gonna.
You might get a little drizzle,drazzle, but like, come on, now
come on.
Matt (25:47):
I think maybe, if you're looking at a scoop and you say,
okay, this is a scoop, I thinkanything smaller than an inch
and a quarter, like a cross,like a diameter okay, inch and a
quarter, I think, is because ifI'm looking at an inch, I I'm
like there's no way that's ascoop.
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But if I look inch and a quarter, I think okay, that's decent.
But inch and a half looks like,oh, that's a pretty decently,
that's a hefty scoop.
Yeah, you know what man I fuckswith this.
So yeah, there you go.
I think inch and a quarter iswhere the scoop territory begins
.
Anything under that's a dollopand there's going to be, and
it's got to be, unstructured.
Yes, yes, because I think ifyou've got a half an inch but
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perfectly coiled thing of icecream, that's like a mini scoop.
Eric (26:39):
Yeah, no.
You've invented something, youhave to feel it out yes or be
yeah.
You have to know your goddamnbusiness and you're a man who
knows his ice cream scoops.
Matt (26:49):
I'm a man who knows my ice cream scoop.
I've been making my own icecream for a long time now,
although it's been a minutesince I made it.
Eric (26:54):
I've had your ice cream, it's delicious.
Matt (26:56):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Which one did you have?
Eric (27:06):
I, you gave me there was a rhubarb one.
Matt (27:07):
you made right.
No, not with rhubarb, not withrhubarb, there was a peanut
butter one.
That was really good, I made aPB&J.
Eric (27:12):
That was it.
I was like there was somethingelse.
It was the PB&J.
It was the PB&J, I went throughseveral versions of the PB&J.
Matt (27:18):
Oh, it might have been a rhubarb jam, that's true, ah,
that's true, ah.
So I have gone through severalversions of the PBJ.
I've made a bunch from the book.
I made a coffee cake.
Salt and straw from my salt andstraw book.
I made a coffee cake one.
It's probably my best one sofar.
Ooh, haven't tried that one.
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I made a burger cookie one,which was fucking incredible.
Eric (27:42):
Nice.
Matt (27:43):
And I mean I made some basic ones when I was getting
started.
But, um, and I mean I made somebasic ones when I was getting
started, but to you know,cookies and cream and the like,
but yeah, yeah, oh, on a cannolione which I made with ricotta
cheese in the base, oh yeah, itwas very good.
Oh, now I have a notes.
I have notes for the next timeI do the cannoli ice cream.
Uh, but it was, it was quitegood hell yeah, it's on.
Eric (28:07):
Do you crumble up cannoli?
Shell?
And?
Matt (28:09):
put it in the ice.
Well, so I didn't have cannolishell, so I got um, what are
those fucking cookies called?
starts with no like print no,and oh, those don't belong
anywhere, I know.
No, it was like prispriscilla's or something.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So I got those but it's not gotthose.
But it's not, it's close butit's not quite the same.
So I think next time I willorder cannoli shells.
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Anyway, we've gotten away fromthe question, but I think we've
answered it.
We've answered it.
So inch and a quarter is wherescoop begins and dollops end,
but it also the structure isimportant.
Eric (28:41):
Yes, structure is important.
Yes, structure is key.
Matt (28:43):
So everyone in our Discord .
There you go.
There's our answer to thequestion, and thank you for
getting so involved right therein the messages.
And this is what you're missing, folks, by not joining our
Patreon and you don't haveaccess to the Discord, where we
can just have these sort ofgeneral discussions, and you're
(29:05):
really missing out is what I'mtrying to say.
Yeah, eric, what's our nextquestion?
Eric (29:08):
our next question comes from a uh listener of the pod,
dear friend of mine and uhliving proof of of the old axiom
all becky's are awesome.
This question is hey, friends,recent trail-based developments
in my life have led me to animportant question what makes a
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good stick?
That's from at becky, the sassyseagrass scientist on instagram
absolutely.
Matt (29:38):
Thank you for the question .
Eric (29:39):
Becky, the sassy seagrass scientist yes, dear friend of
mine, uh does a lot ofenvironmental work, uh, and
we'll excitingly talk to youabout, uh, the environment.
I've read so many uh.
She has so many good books onher bookshelf about identifying
trees and leaves and such it'sall fun, but, and so she's
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turned to us for she turns to usand us and that actually speaks
Matt to our views, like thissassy seagrass scientist has
turned to we.
Matt (30:11):
Lowly podcast.
Because she is left withoutanswers.
And science can and I've beensaying this science can only go
so far, you know?
Yeah, Before we have to takeover.
Eric (30:23):
Oh, oh, absolutely Like.
At a certain point you justgotta Before.
Matt (30:27):
We have to take over, oh, oh absolutely Like, at a certain
point you just got to.
Let us take the wheel.
Eric (30:32):
Some discoveries are best left to us.
Matt (30:34):
Some culpabilities are best left to us Good stick, I
think it.
So this is a.
This is a very difficultquestion.
Get in there, Because I thinkit's a bit subjective, in the
sense that what you intend touse that stick for is going to
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be what the basis is Like.
If you're looking for a walkingstick, you know a two foot long
stick ain't going to cut it.
Eric (31:07):
And I agree with this 100 percent, and that's that I was
going to come in with a verysimilar take, and that's
actually why, like I'd like topose this to us.
Ok, I'd like to put the, thecart, in front of the horse For
once, for once.
So there, my brain, my brainwell, depends on what you're
(31:28):
using it for obviously matt, butthat's not what we're here for.
We were asked a simple questionwhat makes a good stick matt?
When you're walking, whenyou're trekking, when you're
about through the woodswhistling your merry tune, you
see a stick on the ground andyour brain and I know this has
happened to you because it hashappened to everyone Look at
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that stick.
Your brain goes that's a goodstick, that's a good stick.
Or, sorry, more appropriately,your brain goes that looks like
a good stick?
Matt (32:00):
I think so describe that.
Eric (32:02):
Stick to me, I think so describe that stick.
Matt (32:03):
to me, that stick has to be first of all, the girth is
important.
Eric (32:10):
Critical, critical girth.
Critical Because now we're instick versus twig territory.
Matt (32:17):
Yes, it has to be able.
At first blush you can look atit and know.
If you picked it up and whackedit against something like a
tree or somebody else's skull,it would sustain the blow.
Eric (32:32):
It could take some blows.
Matt (32:34):
It has to be better than what like it will survive
against what you're going to hitit against.
Yep, good stick.
Eric (32:41):
Good stick.
I know that when I pick thatstick up, the weight weight is
also critical it's got to bepleasurable it's got to be play
and that is matt.
That's the only way we can sayit.
Like there's no objectivemeasure.
You know it when you have it inyour hand you know what I just
happen.
To have one, I just happen tohave uh a baseball bat right
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here.
Matt (33:03):
That's a good stick, the handle of a baseball bat.
If you can picture the handleof a baseball bat, I'd say, if
you encounter a stick at aboutthis diameter, which probably,
honestly, about an inch and aquarter right in there, that
when you, because it fits, itfits so naturally Look how the
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palm of the hand is able to justcurl those fingers around it.
That is pleasurable.
Louisville slugger diameterLouisville slugger diameter, but
the handle specifically.
Eric (33:37):
Not the whack-a-man, no that there is a bow.
Matt (33:44):
That's a branch.
No, what you want to do is youwant to get your hands nice and
firm around the handle of that.
Eric (33:50):
He's now showing us all how, and get the elbow straight
back behind.
He's going to assault hiscomputer.
Matt (33:55):
Get it right back behind, and so what it is is.
It's the front elbow, eric Yep,that powers the swing.
Eric (34:02):
I never got this with my own father.
Matt (34:06):
I could sense that.
Eric (34:10):
Oh my.
Matt (34:11):
God, well, hustle Eric, hustle Sure yeah.
Eric (34:17):
I was right outfield, yep, yep, yep.
I was where.
The ball would only go if theywere left-handed.
It's just called right field,Eric.
Matt (34:24):
It's just called right field, Eric.
It's just called right field,not right outfield.
Eric (34:31):
Sorry, let me drag myself out of the swamps of sadness.
I've let go of the horse of myinnocence, I've paid the R-tax
and here we are.
So a good stick weight.
Matt (34:42):
Weight, we got it down Weight.
Eric (34:44):
it's the good the, the good it's like a weighted
blanket, in a way for your handsonly it's like a weighted
blanket for your hand and youknow it's that kind of weight
where you know it's like oh man,if I just if I gave it a, this
stick would go so far like Icould like.
It's like I could throw thisstick a good distance with very
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little effort because of theweight, if you chucked the stick
regardless of the length, soproportional to it.
Matt (35:14):
If you're talking about six foot long stick, okay, then
you need to be so much bigger,you need to be a giant.
But no matter matter what, ifyou're able to throw said stick,
really fling the stick so it isspinning, huck it when you huck
it.
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But I say flick because I dothink it needs to spin.
If you're able to do that, youwill hear yeah, you, the classic
.
Like the batarang, you'rechasing the batman animated
series that's what you want,that good stick, good stick,
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anything, I think, relativelystraight I'd say, say Relatively
.
Eric (36:03):
Yeah, it can have some character.
It can have some character.
The character to the wood, ohyeah, like it's got a story to
tell.
Matt (36:15):
I think if it has enough character and it's not straight,
still acceptable, still a goodstick.
Yes.
Eric (36:21):
Because, yes, there's no such thing as a perfectly
straight stick, much likethere's no such thing as a
perfectly straight person.
Matt (36:29):
2025 will be bisexual, as hell Listen to me, eric, as you
were just saying that.
You said you look at it, ittells you a story.
Here's a good way to describe astick.
A good stick, it has to have aclear beginning, middle and end.
Eric (36:45):
Yes, yes, this is the bottom of my stick.
This is the middle of my stick.
Matt (36:50):
You will be able to tell with a stick what is the top,
what is the bottom.
Eric (36:55):
Just by looking at it, you're like, oh, this is the
part that my hand holds.
Matt (36:58):
You will be able to get where it begins and where it
ends.
Yep, I'd say any kind of stickthat looks like it could be
splintery, not a good stick, nota good stick.
Eric (37:07):
Oh, similar to the beginning, middle and end part.
I love a stick, a good stick.
It's got the middle and thenlike maybe a good, let's say
we're dealing with like a twofoot stick, two foot stick long.
Matt (37:18):
You're saying in that lat well yeah good because of it,
because if it's wide, we're nowtalking about a log oh, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Eric (37:24):
Yeah, two foot long, two foot long stick, I love it.
So you got your bottom of thestick, your beginning, you got
your middle and you got your end.
But a good stick will have thatdenouement.
It'll have that last little sixinches.
That's where the, that's wherethe ooh, that's where the,
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that's where the oh, that'swhere the artist put their
signature.
Yes, like it, it might fork it,might it might, it might just
do a little angle, just like alittle oh might just have a big
knot in the middle of it.
Oh, might be a burl.
A burl, oh god, help me.
God, help me, matt, if there isa small twig from the tree that
this branch is on and it'sstill got a leaf on it, that is,
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that is animal crossing.
Matt (38:10):
I truly, truly and in just to touch very briefly on your
twig versus stick.
I think this is very easy.
Twigs can be broken either withone hand or with both hands
with relatively no, uh, no realpressure, no no, real second you
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pick it up, you're like, oh, Icould, just if you think for any
second that the best way tobreak it is over your knee or
under your foot.
That ain't a twig.
Eric (38:42):
That is a stick.
That is a motherfucking stick,For sure God.
Now I just want to go find agood stick.
Matt (38:49):
Yeah, I think bark is important.
Eric (38:51):
It's got to have some good fully barked, fully barked,
depending on the species of tree.
Some trees like I think, theash and beet like they've got
that really smooth.
Those can be very.
Those can make for verysatisfying sticks, very wandy in
there in there.
Yes, yes, a wandy stick is good,good, yeah, um, flexibility,
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okay, I think a good stick, astick that isn't like there's,
there's too dry and there's toowet, too wet.
If your stick is like, if Icould practically like bend it,
90 and there's not, I don't evenhear a crack, that's not,
that's just a fallen, fallenpiece of tree.
Matt (39:36):
Yeah, I think I would say it needs to be fairly rigid
fairly rigid.
Eric (39:41):
fairly rigid, that's what I think there should be, just
like a, a dollop, a, a, a.
Matt (39:47):
I'm not sure I agree, eric .
Eric (39:49):
No, just like a dash of like, just like, just like that
whippy, like, uh, almost like ariding crop, but like less than
that.
What stiffer than a riding crop.
What the fuck is a riding crop?
You know like what?
That when horse riders the likewhat the jockeys use, the
little whip, a riding crop.
(40:11):
Sure, that thing we've beenusing for thousands of years.
Matt (40:16):
Okay, eric, I didn't, I didn't know what it was called.
Eric (40:20):
Okay, okay, settle down a riding crop but yeah, but like
just the most subtle, just likethe, just a little it's a short
type of whip without a lash, soI was still right, it's a whip
kind of like how, like, uh, likea wyvern is a kind of dragon,
but yeah, I, I, I it, because ifit's too, if it's too, the
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stick is too dry.
If it's rigid, then you run intosome where they're like ooh, if
I give this too much of a like,you're going to huck, but you
don't.
Well, if I do that too hard,the stick's going to break off.
Matt (40:53):
If you rear up with a piece of wood that you consider
to be a stick you brandish thatshit, if you brandish a thing at
me and I go that, if you seethe fear in my eyes of is he
gonna throw that thing at me?
Eric (41:10):
see the reptile brain activate.
Matt (41:11):
That's a stick, that's stick if I have no reaction.
Friend, you're holding a twig,uh, or at the very least you're
holding a shitty stick.
Yeah, yeah, because I'm notafraid of it because I know I
can go and smack it out of theway.
Eric (41:30):
Oh yeah, I could deflect it and I will look so bad
because I'm like, oh, thatsticks dry shit.
So when I go to deflect it,snap, and then the end of it,
when it breaks on my arm, thatgoes away.
I'll feel like such a badass.
Matt (41:47):
Here's a good test of a stick.
Right, if you have a stick andyou offer it to a dog and the
dog doesn't take it?
Oh man, what an insult.
Don't you feel like a douchebag?
Eric (41:55):
yeah, and don't rely on a dog to tell you the difference
between a stick and a twig.
Matt (41:59):
They'll chase after both if it's good enough well,
they'll chase after a twig, butthey won't carry it around like
they're proud.
If a dog is proud of a piece ofwood in their mouth, that is a
stick.
Eric (42:09):
That is a stick it if you gotta, if, when the dog has to
stop and very, you watch thecalculus floating over their
head of how don't, how am Igoing to pick this up?
How am I going to pick this up?
How am I going to get this upand carry it around?
They?
Matt (42:25):
have to consider it.
That's a stick.
That's a stick, oh man.
And I would say if you have a,a piece of natural wood off a
tree, that is not pot.
If a dog attempts to pick it up, fails and moves on, that's too
big to be a stick, too big tobe a stick.
Eric (42:45):
Too big to be a stick abs 100, that's too big to be a
stick.
Now let's talk about think,because we talked about purposes
earlier.
Now we can move into that.
Now I don't want to talk aboutlike, oh, what's the perfect
kind of stick for x task?
No, we, we know, we have ourgood stick.
We know, we see it perfectly inour mind's eye.
Yes, what are some uses forthat good stick?
Matt (43:07):
good stick uses one walking stick walking stick two.
Eric (43:12):
Uh, if it's a long one for the fire, for the fire kindling
for sure uh, not even kindling.
Matt (43:18):
Twigs are king.
Kindling you want.
Eric (43:22):
You want opening act, pieces of wood yes, before you
start putting logs when you'rebuilding your logs while you're
still building yes, absolutely.
Matt (43:32):
Uh ooh, propping up the box, the classic unless you're
making a tp fire, in which caseyou only want sticks.
True, gotta have that lean.
Yeah, you can't use yacht logsand tp no, you can't.
Eric (43:44):
You can't use those kind of sticks in a log cabin, it's
just gonna.
It's not that, that's not whatyou do.
No, um, a good stick can beused for the classic box stick.
Piece of string trap, maybe apie.
Matt (43:58):
Yes, box.
You know what I mean yes thatthat is a good stick use uh,
anything that a dog would carryaround, good stick, anything,
yes good stick.
Eric (44:09):
See something cool in the bed of the crick.
Matt (44:13):
What is that?
Oh, what's that down there?
Gotta poke around with a goodstick, gotta poke around with a
good stick.
Eric (44:20):
Yeah, you're worried that a predator may be approaching
you in the woods.
Matt (44:24):
Gotta throw the stick to scare him off.
Let me throw something that'llmake a big noise Stick, good
stick.
Or alternatively, let me grabthis because I can use it as an
impromptu weapon.
Good stick, good stick thatgoes back to the baseball bat.
Eric (44:40):
Good stick going back to bonfires, good for stirring the
coals?
Yes, you need a good poker, notgood for s'mores a stick.
You can't use a stick formaking s'mores no, you want to.
Matt (44:53):
You want a twig first.
Eric (44:54):
You want a twig yes, yes, bits bits of course, a good
stick is always good for a bit.
The classic.
The classic like, oh, oh, oh.
What oh, is that my arm in mysleeve?
Matt (45:08):
nope, I don't know baby I don't know how to describe this
properly, but if it's fulfillingsome sort of random tasks, like
right now outside I have a doorto my carport and the handle of
that door inside the claspingmechanism is broken.
Okay, so I have to replace it.
(45:29):
But so the door doesn't bangaround, I have taken a stick and
put it through the door handle.
So it is.
It jams it up, so it staysclosed until I want to go into
it.
Something like that, a taskthat can be fulfilled by a piece
of wood you pick up off of theground, that is a good stick.
And I'll tell you right now.
(45:50):
I know for a fact that stickabout an inch and a quarter
thick.
Eric (45:55):
Inch and a quarter thick baby Ooh, one of my personal
favorites.
When it happens organically, itjust hits and I'm just going to
call a shot.
Now I know, you know what I'mtalking about.
When you, very organically,you're out in nature, there's a
task or you need to getsomewhere or do something, and
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someone needs to explainsomething to you visually, and
you're standing over dirt andthey do the squat down with a
stick in one hand and draw itout, baby.
Let me explain the plan.
Matt (46:30):
Here's where we are all right.
Eric (46:31):
Here's what we're gonna do river's just down there.
It's pat.
You're gonna walk till you seea big tree.
Matt (46:35):
Now you're gonna see a tree you think is big, but
there's a bigger one coming okay, and then you lean down to the
dirt and go okay, so this is theriver right.
That implement you're using isa good stick.
That is a damn good stick.
Eric (46:50):
That's the talking stick, talking stick.
Good use for a good stick.
Matt (46:54):
If you take a stick, if you walk up to a well and say I
wonder how deep this is, and youtoss something into it and
listen to that that's a goodstick If you ever do stick
racing.
Eric (47:10):
if you're standing on a bridge going over moving water,
you drop your sticks in on oneside.
Matt (47:14):
I can't say that I have Eric.
Eric (47:16):
Oh yeah, so it's classic.
This is one of Alyssa'sfavorite pastimes.
What you do, it's got to belike a wider bridge, like a
bridge that you know.
It's got to be like a widerbridge, like a bridge that, like
you know, let's say like atleast five feet wide or so, but
you stand on one side of thebridge, like like width wise.
You're not like not either end.
I get it.
You both look over, you holdyour sticks out equal distance.
Matt (47:38):
Yeah.
Eric (47:38):
The water's got to be running towards you.
Matt (47:40):
Yes.
Eric (47:41):
And then you do a three, two, one, you drop, yeah, you
scatter to the other side, youscatter to the other side and
you watch whose stick comes outfirst?
Stick race baby.
Matt (47:51):
And that's romance.
Eric (47:53):
That's romance.
That's romance isn't it thatmakes my girlfriend so happy?
Matt (47:57):
A good stick should be about the size of a Never mind.
Is that why we like sticks.
Eric (48:06):
Oh yeah, oh, that's why we like most, that's like we men
like most, we meaning men.
Eric, I think we've answeredthe question.
I think we knocked this out ofthe park.
Matt (48:19):
I think we fucking nailed that stick.
Yeah, all right, eric, nowlisten, it's time for the
closing segment.
Oh yeah, baby, I listen.
It's time for the closingsegment Now.
Oh yeah, baby, I have done thelast two pop quizzes, and they
were.
They were challenging for meand I especially the last one, I
bet it was.
I believe the theme of both wasEric didn't answer my goddamn
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text messages about what we'redoing for the show Today.
I did so.
Today you have preparedsomething, is that right?
Eric (48:46):
Yes, I have.
I've prepared a pop quiz foryou, matt I'm very excited which
I have titled.
Actually, I'll tell you what itis first, then I'll tell you
the title.
Matt (48:57):
Isn't that the same thing?
No, okay.
Eric (49:00):
Matthew.
I have 10 quotes here, 10quotes here.
10 quotes verses.
If you will, you are going totell me if the quote I read to
you is from the bible or if itis from JRR Tolkien's the
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Silmarillion Jesus Christ.
Okay, which is basically abible and a history book all
wrapped up.
So we're playing bible or bilbo, matt is that what you call it?
It's actually bilbo or biblebilbo or bible you call you, you
call it.
You got it on the first try,even though bilbo does not
appear in the silmarillion, asit took place eons before his
(49:42):
existence.
Matt (49:43):
Sure, everyone knows that.
Eric (49:45):
All right.
Oh, also, I just realized.
Fuck, I was showing you myscreen.
I hope you didn't, I didn't seeit, don't worry, you did.
Matt (49:52):
You did show me your screen, but I only saw that your
note is entitled Bilbo or Bible.
Eric (49:59):
All right.
So obviously, bilbo, if youthink it's Tolkien Bible, if you
think it's Tolkien Bible, ifyou think it was God?
Matt (50:06):
All right.
God didn't write the Bible, allright.
Eric (50:12):
Okay, through God all things are possible, matt, for
various reasons.
Quote all have their worth, andeach contributes to the worth
of the others.
Bilbo, that is Tolkien, yes,correct, and thou shalt see that
no theme may be played thathath not its uttermost source in
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me, nor can any alter the musicin my despite, for he that
attempteth this shall prove, butmine instrument in the devising
of things more wonderful, whichhe himself have not imagined.
Matt (50:47):
I'm going to say Bible, that's Tolkien, I thought it
might be.
I was 50-50 on that one.
Okay, I'm one and one.
Eric (50:54):
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be
strong.
Let all that you do be done inlove.
Bible, bible, corinthians 1613.
Oh, look at you quote chapterand verse.
I have told you all this sothat you may have peace in me.
Here you will have many trialsand sorrows, but take heart
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because I have overcome theworld that sounds like some
tolkien ship and it could besome jesus shit.
Matt (51:24):
Who can say I'm gonna say it's jesus shit, bible john 1630
.
Eric (51:27):
Yeah, baby, so so far you're, you're, you're, you're
three for four.
I who can say I'm going to sayit's Jesus, shit Bible, john 16,
33.
Yeah, baby, so so far you're,you're, you're, you're Three for
four, I think.
Yeah, three for four.
Three for four, for if joyfulis the fountain that rises in
the sun, its springs are in thewells of sorrow, unfathomable at
the foundations of the earth.
Bilbo, bilbo, bam, oh, you'rekilling it.
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Yep, yep, yep.
Four for five.
But he that sows lies in theend shall not lack of a harvest,
and soon he may rest from toil.
Indeed, while others reap andsow in his stead, ooh.
Matt (52:00):
I feel the opposite, as I did two ones ago, where I feel
like it sure sounds like theBible, but I think it's equally
possible that it's that it'stalking.
Eric (52:12):
I'm going to say Bible, though Talking Damn it, so,
you're, so, you're, so you'refour for six, four for six.
See, I am doing a new thing.
Now it springs up, do you notperceive it?
I am making a way in thewilderness and streams, in the
wasteland.
I love this, this quote, justbecause it starts with see, I am
making a way in the wildernessand streams, in the wasteland.
I love this, this quote, justbecause it starts with see, I am
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doing a new thing.
Oh, a hundred percent.
The Bible, that's Isaiah 43,one, 29, but hearing you.
Matt (52:39):
I'm just picturing you walk up at the front of a
Catholic mass.
Here's today's reading from thebook of Isaiah Flip flip, flip,
silence, silence.
Eric (52:54):
See, I did a thing.
But of bliss and glad lifethere is little to be said
before it ends as works fair andwonderful while they still
endure for eyes to see are evertheir own record, and only when
they are in peril or brokenforever do they pass into song
(53:16):
bilbo bilbo yeah, I.
Matt (53:18):
You want to know why?
Because he got lost halfwaythrough.
Eric (53:21):
Yeah oh, where are we?
Matt (53:29):
I have to reference the map halfway through I was like
what the fuck are we talkingabout?
That's gotta be tolkien.
Eric (53:35):
Here we go, all right so you are, so you are I think I'm
six for eight, six.
You are six for eight.
Okay, the point is this whoeverso sparingly, will also reap
sparingly, and whoever so'sbountifully, will also reap
bountifully.
Matt (53:52):
Bilbo to Corinthians, damn it seemed too obvious, it
seemed I thought you weretricking me dance and finally we
have all the believers weretogether and had everything in
common oh you, son of a bitch,oh you, son of a bitch.
Eric (54:14):
All the believers were together and had everything in
common.
Matt (54:18):
Because that could be.
You know, that could be JimJones, you know it could be the
most basic ass.
I'm gonna say say Bilbo, acts244.
I always forget about it.
Eric (54:35):
So you were seven for ten, still pretty good.
Matt (54:37):
That's very good.
Still pretty good on the whole.
Only missed three.
Eric (54:43):
Yeah.
Matt (54:44):
On the Hobbit hole.
Nonetheless, thanks, ccd.
Oh, nonetheless.
Eric (54:50):
Thanks, CCD.
Oh man, it's been a minute.
Matt (54:55):
Well, eric, that was a delightful little quiz, thank
you, thank you.
Thank you for preparing it.
I appreciate it.
And Eric look at that I thinkthat will just about do it for
this episode of you Didn't AskFor this.
As always, we would appreciateyour questions and you can send
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Eric, take it away, uh, bydoing yeah, you didn't expect
that, did you?
You didn't expect me to hand itoff in the middle of the
business.
Eric (55:53):
I was looking up a thing for the ladder business for the
bookend oh okay, well then I'llleave.
Matt (55:58):
Should I leave you to your no?
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Call that, leave us a message.
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Give you some.
Whatever.
The dumb bit I did like yearsago was.
Eric (57:28):
It's like a 45 second long bit.
Matt (57:30):
Yeah, I should probably go back and tighten that shit up,
but anyway, just call that410-929-5329.
Eric, did I give them all thebusiness and did you Mine dude?
Eric (57:44):
you gave them all the business.
Matt (57:46):
All right.
Well then, from all of us hereyou didn't ask for this.
My name's Matthew Shea, myname's Eric Poach and listen,
you didn't ask.
Eric (57:56):
I'll do an entire oat on this at some point, but here's a
little preview.
They did Eowyn so dirty in themovies of Lord of the Rings,
they like, let me, let me.
Let me hit you with this.
This is the moment in return ofthe king when eowyn is fighting
the witch king of angamar andshe kills him.
This is when she casts off herhelmet and reveals that she's
(58:17):
been disguised.
This is from the book.
But no living man am I.
You look upon a woman, eowyn.
I am eowyn's.
You stand between me and mylord and kin.
Be gone if you be not deathlessFor living or dark undead, I
will smite you if you touch himthat.
(58:40):
So take that the most metalshit on earth.
And then in the movies we get Iam no man.
I don't know how to respond tothat.
And then in the movies we get Iam no man.
Matt (58:52):
Ah, I don't know how to respond to that.
Eric (58:54):
Neither did Warner Brothers.
Matt (59:07):
They let me down, all right, thank you.
Matt, you know how you're always saying to me that we
don't do enough visual bits forour audio medium show.
Matt (00:05):
I don't think that's what I'm saying.
All right, well, get a check ofthis baby.
Eric, you told me what was that?
A tattoo.
It's fresh ink baby.
You got a tattoo on your upperknee yeah, just above the knee.
What is it?
A noose.
Eric (00:21):
No, it is, it looks like a noose.
Matt (00:22):
No, it is looks like a noose.
It's a knot a noose is a knot,is it not?
Yeah, but matt, you've allright, let me get really good.
If you're gonna do this, let mesee the goddamn ink.
Eric (00:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me uh cold open let me, let me, let
me just go ahead and purchasebecause, you being an eagle
scout, yeah, that's what I'msaying.
Matt (00:39):
Let me see the knot.
Yeah, yeah, I can't get inthere.
Just let me know when you canpeep it.
Uh, okay, it looks like hold on.
Let me get close to the screen.
Yeah, it's a little out offocus, but I think it looks like
it could be like an odd squareknot.
Like you tied a square knotwrong and that's a weird tattoo
(01:00):
to get.
Also, eric, your room is adisaster.
Eric (01:08):
Yeah, it is speaking of visual bits.
Good lord, I know this is.
This is currently because thisis a mix of like.
This is mostly alissa's artsupplies.
This is like this is all.
Matt (01:16):
This has become pseudo so this is like your room of
requirement.
Yes, yes, okay, so what not, isit?
Eric (01:22):
it can't be a wrongly tied square knot it is uh, it is a
fictional knot uh, one of ourfriends, uh, we go on a river
trip each year.
I've talked about this yes, youhave, yes, bugles.
Our friend joe, who's an eaglescout, okay, uh, one year he
found a machine where he couldprint temporary tattoos.
Uh and a lot of our friends andstuff will uh do like art of
(01:46):
knots and stuff, um, or like theclassic, you know, not tattoo
stuff.
So we got temporary tattoos ofa knot he just made up like an
impossible knot.
Um, I call it the jolin thejolin the jolin knot and uh, I
had uh just a couple days ago,um, I like, like not tattoos and
(02:06):
stuff.
So I had a friend of mine, uh,who last year he's an archivist
and he became like hyperobsessed with uh stick and pokes
after receiving one.
He's one of those people where,like the second he decides to
learn about something, he justbecomes like like he dedicates
all of his time and energy to ituntil he's mastered it.
(02:27):
So he's been given.
He's been given out a, a stickand poke tattoos to the friends
and uh, yeah, and this was mine.
I'll probably get more at somepoint.
I'm probably gonna get a map ofthe shenandoah down my leg so
it's.
Matt (02:39):
This is a but.
This is a real tattoo this is areal tattoo.
Eric (02:42):
He spent two hours poking that into my flesh, sure.
Matt (02:46):
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, and what I'm going to doTalk to me about the placement.
Why above the knee?
I know you've talked about the,you know the cover up and stuff
for acting.
Obviously it's out of the way,but why there?
Eric (02:59):
I mean you could have put it anywhere.
Could have put it anywhere.
Um, I have plans for my arms.
Um, I don't really plan any.
I I would, wouldn't mind backtattoos.
The problem is, if I have atattoo, I want to see it and I
have plans for my legs as well.
So, like I have no, likethere's no, the above the knee
was the spot where I was like Ihave no feelings about like
(03:23):
anything.
So this is your first tattoo.
This is my second tattoo.
Then it got my little dots onmy wrist here.
Oh right, you have your dotsand, weirdly enough, my small,
the smaller of my two tattooswas done by a machine, by my
friend, uh, ellie, who's ainsanely talented tattoo artist.
And uh, yeah, a little knothere was done by, done by, uh,
(03:44):
done in my friend's living roomwith the utmost care and
sterility.
Oh, I think that.
I think that's very exciting.
But since it's a made-up knot,my run, the bit I'm going to
start doing now, which thank youfor being the first, is I'm
just going to approach everyeagle scout I know and ask them
if they can recognize thisclassic knot yeah it.
Matt (04:02):
It did confuse me because it did not look possible like.
And my initial bites?
They can't be done.
My initial response was well, Ican't tell him that that knot
doesn't make any sense oh, youwanted to protect my feelings I
was like I don't want to tell meas a tattoo of a nonsense.
(04:24):
No nonsense.
Eric (04:25):
I would absolutely get a tattoo, because that was the
other thing?
Matt (04:28):
Yeah, no, clearly.
Eric (04:29):
There's a lot of really good looking knots like he could
have tattooed on me, but thenagain then I'd have to learn how
to tie him.
Matt (04:36):
Yeah, absolutely.
Eric (04:37):
Who's got the time for that?
Much easier to get a mucheasier to get a Jolin.
Matt (04:42):
You know what, eric, I am proud of you and you know it is.
You know I was gonna save thisbecause you know you had a bingo
square.
Yes, thank you for my seguethat I was gonna get a, a tattoo
.
This is gonna be my uh.
What did alyssa call it?
My, my, not my metal year, myuh oh, this is your bad boy year
.
Eric (05:01):
bad boy year, that's gonna be a bad boy year.
Bad boy year, matt's going tobe a bad boy in 2025.
Matt (05:06):
I was going to say I really was going to save this.
Are you about to show me afucking tattoo?
I'm just going to show you this.
It's a mole.
What do you think about it?
Is it a little cancerous?
Eric (05:18):
Oh, bro, you got to get that checked out.
Should I get this checked out?
Matt (05:37):
Yeah, you got to get that checked out.
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna checkit out.
Well, hello everybody andwelcome to you.
Didn't Ask For this.
It's the podcast answeringlife's least pressing questions.
My is matthew shea, my name iseric poach and eric, how are you
?
Eric (05:48):
doing good.
Which quick, quick circle backfollow-up to the previous
segment.
Yes vis-a-vis cold open yes, ashe's giving it to me, yes, in
the middle of giving me thistattoo, he says oh, by the way,
because he has the exact sameone on his leg.
His leg is covered in all thesedifferent knots.
That he is because he practiced.
He didn't start practicing onhimself but, like, once he got
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comfortable, he's like, yeah,I'm going to obviously do it to
myself.
If I'm going to do it to otherpeople, he's like, yeah, get
ready for a lot of people to askyou if that's a noose.
Matt (06:17):
Yeah, I mean, it is the first thing I said.
It does look, noose it's got ayou.
You do have a loop at the endof the knot for no reason, and
generally there's a loop with nopurpose generally goes around
something like a neck.
Well, that sounds like apurpose.
What I'm saying is when it hasnothing in it, like it's not
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tied around something a stick ora post.
Eric (06:43):
So now I need to get a stick and poke of like a post or
like a eric something for thatloop to go around.
It is your body.
I'm gonna build an entirenarrative off of this.
Matt (06:54):
Not sure you might, as you might as well, but that's how
I'm doing, matt.
Well, that's good, eric, andI'm I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad to hear a tattoo.
I did not have a tattoo and, no, I don't think that mole is
cancer.
It's been there for a long,long, long time and it hasn't
moved everyone.
But I'm sort of getting myselfconcerned as I talk about the
mole, and that does remind methat bingo squares, or bingo
(07:19):
cards, I should say, for 2025,are due If you're listening to
this, on the day it comes out orthe day after it is due, on the
31st, by 1159 PM, so end ofJanuary.
So if you're listening to thison release day, you still have
time to submit a bingo card.
You can click the link in thisepisode's description to do that
(07:42):
.
Eric (07:42):
It's not too late.
It's never too late, it's nevertoo late.
Matt (07:45):
It's never too late.
You will win a free piece ofmerchandise of your choice from
our merch store and you will behonored by being a guest on this
podcast.
Yes, I can't think of anythingmore exciting of a surprise,
eric, can you?
Eric (08:02):
I'm racking my brain.
I got nothing.
Matt (08:08):
Then rack it no more.
I say, let's get into it.
Eric Shall, we take somebody'squestion.
Eric (08:14):
Oh, yes, we shall, and it would probably be helpful if I
opened the question document.
Matt (08:21):
It would, but in the meantime I'll get you covered.
We're going to tackle a topic,a question that came up in our
discord, and dare I say, therewas plenty of discord about this
question.
It was what is an appropriateand it's sort of a conglomerate
(08:43):
question, it's not just from oneperson what is an appropriate
dollop size before it becomes ascoop?
And that came from Bootsy, zach, deuce, dairy King, 11, and
(09:04):
more and the rest and the rest.
But those three were leadingthe charge on on our discord
there.
Again, you can get to thatdiscord by joining our Patreon
link in the episode descriptionas well.
Eric, yeah, scoops, dollops.
We can agree that a dollop issmaller than a scoop.
Eric (09:18):
Yeah, I think we, you and I, both live in reality.
I think so, and we, we'vereached a consensus of sorts
regarding said reality.
Yes, a dollop is smaller than ascoop, do you?
Matt (09:33):
okay, do you think there's a what?
What if anything is smallerthan a dollop?
A zhuzh, a zhuzh, zhuzh it up.
Yeah, you zhuzh, zhuzh, zhuzhit up.
Eric (09:45):
Yeah, you zhuzh is a verb, you zhuzh it up, yeah, but like
to dollop something is also.
Matt (09:50):
But like to dollop something I've never heard of a
zhuzh as a noun, no, but wecould pioneer it, we, we could,
I, I would put a zhuzh.
Eric (10:02):
Okay, a zhuzh is more than a pinch.
Matt (10:04):
So you know how, like when you've got like I don't think
you can pinch any material thatwould be dollopable.
Eric (10:11):
Which is also part of this discussion.
We'll get there momentarily.
Okay, I'm just using closestequivalents.
So it's like if I'm puttingthing in another thing, a pinch
of something, but then there'slike an amount where it's like
more than a pinch, you mightpour a little just in that
little bowl of the palm of yourhand.
Just get a little like that.
I would, I would, I wouldqualify as a juge, okay, but
(10:34):
dollops and scoops I do this iskind of require a utensil.
They require a utensil also.
It's a square rectangle thing.
Um many, many things,regardless of their physical
state of matter, can be scooped.
You can scoop ice cream, youcan scoop raisins, you can scoop
gravel, but a dollop has to bea liquid based well, yeah,
(11:00):
liquid based, I guess do youknow what I mean.
Like it has to, it has to, ithas to.
I mean it has to be like wet,it has to be wet, but it's not
really a liquid.
I can't do a dollop of raisins.
Matt (11:10):
Because you put in a dollop of sour cream.
Eric (11:12):
A dollop of daisy.
Matt (11:14):
A dollop of daisy is, of course, what everyone always
thinks of, but like that's not,is that really a liquid?
Eric (11:21):
Not a liquid per se, but it is a non-rigid.
Yeah, some sort of buttery typeconsistency A buttery, a creamy
a goopy.
Matt (11:32):
I think you can put a dollop of butter.
Eric (11:36):
Yes, I agree with that.
Matt (11:37):
I agree with that you can put in a dollop of butter.
That is definitely dollop ofbutter, though I will say but
you can also liquefy butter.
Eric (11:42):
So that was going to be my point.
I think so, depending on howcold the butter is.
If it's like fresh out of thefridge, you're not dolloping
anything, that's a spill.
Is that smaller than a dollop?
That's a pat of butter, a spill.
Matt (12:01):
Oh, go on, give us a spill of butter, but again, then then
if you're spilling something,that implies true blue liquid,
yeah which you can't really dolike you can't get a dollop of
juice, oh where where does dashfall into this?
Eric (12:16):
like when we're talking like like a dash of bitters.
You know what I mean.
Matt (12:19):
I think dash is in the pinch family.
I think dash is in the pinchfamily.
I think it is in the pinchfamily Dash pinch a zhuzh, but I
think a dash, almost more thana pinch, I think belongs to a
powdery substance, a spice.
Eric (12:38):
It depends because, like a lot of sauces, do dash a dash
of Worcestershire.
Matt (12:43):
Yeah, but again, sauce is liquid not dollopable?
Eric (12:51):
No, dollops have to be goopy, they have to be runny.
I think that's the key.
It has to be something thatlike.
Matt (12:58):
Here's what's smaller than a dollop, a dot, a dot Put in a
dot of sour cream.
Eric (13:04):
Oh, a dot of sour cream for my baked potato.
Matt (13:09):
A dot or a drop.
I guess you could consider adrop, maybe A dot.
And how I would measure a dropof sour cream is I'd take a
regular spoon, I'd put it inthere and get a good dollop,
probably, of sour cream on theedge of the spoon and simply let
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something drop off the end ofit and that is a drop.
Eric (13:33):
Yeah, no, I I fucks with that now, okay, so dollop, so,
dollop, so.
Matt (13:38):
So here's I love that we've started this question by
asking and answering somethingcompletely different.
Eric (13:46):
Several completely different somethings.
I will say this this is my hardline in the sand when it comes
to dollops.
Tell me, a dollop has to begotten in one swipe of the
utensil.
Yes, has to be whatever you canget in one thing in the utensil
.
Yes, has to be whatever you canget in one thing in the utensil
(14:06):
.
Matt (14:06):
Yes, because a scoop you might have to go back to
complete a scoop.
Eric (14:12):
Yes, there might be more, and that's where it is also a
square rectangle thing.
You can have multiple scoops.
You cannot have one.
Once you're doing multipledollops, you're just scooping by
another name here.
Matt (14:28):
OK, I was trying to see if anybody has weighed in in some
sort of official capacity on thesize of a dollop, and I'm not
seeing it.
Although lots of people aresaying the AI overview is saying
about a tablespoon which feelslike it's probably in the
ballpark, out a tablespoon whichfeels like it's probably in the
(14:49):
ballpark.
But this headline has led me tobelieve.
Eric (14:52):
Here's what's smaller than a dollop a tad, a tad, though.
Add a tad of sour cream, a tad,and what I would do is a tad
similar to what you were talkingabout is like a dot.
A tad is when you you do youget up a dollop portion but then
you just, if my hand is the,you just kiss, like you're
kissing it, like you're lettingthe natural like tension of the
(15:13):
of the materials carry some over.
But you're not poor, you're notlike a, you're not dumping it
on anything.
Matt (15:19):
I think to do a tad.
I would either take the verytip of a spoon and just get like
a tiny little, just a tinylittle scoop of just the front
of the spoon, or just take likea fingertip, like a fingertip
amount of whatever it is.
Eric (15:36):
Yeah, and add it to the borscht.
Just get right in the sourcream with your fingy, yeah.
Matt (15:40):
Just go right in and actually make a like a tunnel,
like go down.
Like you get the good stuff,yeah, like you're getting an or
of sour cream and Minecraft.
Side note Tell me.
Eric (15:53):
I.
One of the things that Iimmediately, instantly and
irrevocably judge someone overis if they open a container of
sour cream and then just startscooping like there's no other
extra step there.
Yeah, you got gotta give that amix, you gotta give that a.
You gotta give that a fuckingstir.
Matt (16:09):
That gross ass, I don't want that.
I don't want that cheese liquidor whatever the fuck at top.
Eric (16:14):
I don't know what that is.
I don't want to know what thatis.
Do not explain to me what thatis, man wasn't meant to know
what it is.
Matt (16:20):
Nope, we just know we gotta get it in there.
Same thing with the ketchupwater.
Yeah, no, no, ketchup water,that's it.
Shake it, you gotta shake it,you gotta and shake it, shake
well um, after you get it out ofthe fridge, you shake it well,
you shake it well.
Thank you, daisy.
Anyway, so a tad okay, so thatwe've answered the question that
(16:43):
nobody asked us.
Eric (16:44):
Yes, but so for me, as long as you're doing one one go,
that's dollop, and I'd say, theutensil in question is
important.
Matt (16:55):
There, I think you have to use a regular spoon, kitchen
spoon, if you are using a scooplike an ice cream scoop, you are
already infringing on scoopterritory.
Eric (17:06):
You have precluded a dollop at that point.
Yes, and I know the saying goesa dollop by any other name
would scoop as sweet, but nothere.
We have standards, do you?
Matt (17:17):
think two dollops make a scoop?
No, I do not Okay.
Eric (17:29):
You got any further thoughts on the matter.
So there's also a differenceand we we've touched on this
already in the application.
When I am dolloping something,it is a bloop like, it is a
you're, you're like dropping iton something.
Matt (17:40):
Yeah, it's generally a topper, it's generally something
that goes on top of a finisheddish if I'm scooping, I'm
dumping.
Eric (17:48):
There's a difference between like a like a plop and a
so like it.
You could have multiple, buteach of those is a dollar
because sometimes you know ifanyone's ever like walking you
through a recipe, or likethey're telling you how to like
they're walking through thefixings of their chili bar.
Yeah, like, oh, yeah, just hitit with some cheese, some onions
, give a couple dollops of sourcream.
(18:09):
Like a couple dollops is stillin the realm of dollop.
Matt (18:13):
Yeah, because I do think a scoop needs to have the shape
to it, and we all know the shape.
Eric (18:24):
Depending on the material, of course, but yeah, we need
that sphere.
Matt (18:29):
You should be able to see how the scooper approached the
carton of material by looking atthe scoop.
You can see the crest of thewave of it.
You know what I'm saying?
The fingerprints in the oilpaint, exactly as it bends
around itself.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
(18:50):
The artifice, the artifice, theartifice of the scoop.
Yes, yes, the scoop has anartistic quality to it, I think
yes, whereas a dollop is justsort of like a big drop it's a
big drop, it is.
Eric (19:07):
It is the fin it.
It's you.
A dollop usually impliessomething has come to a close.
And here there's the lastlittle bit, do you think?
Matt (19:19):
a scoop is a foundation, a scoop is a foundation, and it's
almost never by itself.
I mean no, no, it's usually atthe base of something like.
I guess people do get a scoopof ice cream, but why waste the
time?
Eric (19:33):
why like what?
What are we even here for?
Matt (19:35):
a single scoop a single scoop unless it's some sort of
place that is doing a scoop thatis the size of an orange.
Yeah, because some places do,do them.
Eric (19:46):
Biblical scoops.
Matt (19:47):
Yeah, and if that's their thing, you just got to know that
.
Eric (19:50):
You got to know that I have made that.
I've gone down that road before.
I was like I'll do two scoops,oh dear Lord.
Matt (19:57):
Wait a minute, Eric.
You're telling me youencountered an ice cream place
in which you couldn't handle twoscoops encountered an ice cream
place in which you couldn'thandle two scoops.
Eric (20:08):
No, I can handle two scoops any goddamn day of the
week, but it's it.
I can't recall the specifics,but I have been in a position
where I like, let's say, I'mdriving home from the ice cream
place and like, I get like, ifit's like, if I'm like gotta be
driving in one hand and I'm likecraving a waffle cone, I got a
cone in the other.
Matt (20:27):
Then you sit and you eat your ice cream before you leave.
Eric (20:31):
Sometimes it's not an option, my man, sometimes it
needs press.
It's 2025.
It's a dog, it's a doggy dogworld.
Matt (20:38):
Where are you encountering the need for an emergency
roadside assistance?
Scoop of ice cream, brother.
That's just called lifesometimes.
Sometimes, yes, sometimes.
But you pull over, you get out,you, you order the ice cream,
you sit, you contemplate yourlife, you ask yourself where it
all went wrong and you get backin your jeep and you drive on or
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it's like in a situation where,like walking around, like, oh,
let's get an ice cream, likeit's just the general situation.
Eric (21:05):
Where, like walking around , like it's just the general
situation, I was like, oh shit,I was, I was prepared to for the
, the tight rope balancing act,that is, you know, carefully
eating my ice cream withoutgetting my hands sticky or messy
, and then sometimes like, oh, Idid not prepare for this, I was
not ready for this amount ofice cream to potentially get me
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sticky.
I can crush ice cream all daylong, doesn't sound like it
sometimes?
I like to have a nice mosey asI eat my ice cream you okay.
Well, hold on, you can't moseywhile driving no, well, that
mosey is an on foot activity no,moseying is 100 an on, unless
you are in one of those littleclown cars that you see in
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parades.
Those can mosey because theyonly go like two miles.
Matt (21:53):
Well, they're basically a living creature, yeah.
Eric (21:56):
Yeah, so I accept that.
Matt (21:58):
Okay, so in conclusion, what the hell were we talking
about?
Scoop V dollar right.
Conclusion what the hell werewe talking about?
Scoop the dollar right.
So how big do you think if wewere to put a measurement on it?
How big do you think is thelike outer limit of a dollop?
Eric (22:14):
the outer limit of a dollop is when you have to go if
you're going to put a dollop,or maybe a couple dollop on
something.
The second you hit.
The third dollop you've justdone a scoop.
Matt (22:26):
Okay, so you're saying three dollops equal a scoop.
Eric (22:31):
Three dollops.
What I'm saying is, once you'vehad to dollop something three
times, you may as well havescooped it.
Matt (22:37):
I agree with you.
I agree with that.
I think dollops can be varioussizes.
Eric (22:44):
Yes, oh, absolutely.
There's a massive differencebetween a dollop of sour cream
and like a dollop of like chilichili oil.
Matt (22:52):
So maybe what we should be asking is what is the minimum
size to be a scoop?
Ooh yeah.
Eric (23:01):
Okay, okay.
Matt (23:02):
All right, so picture Yep.
Let's say what I don't have mymy.
I had a ruler on my desk, butit's currently out in the snow
on my deck to measure this, soit's not here.
Eric (23:17):
That ruler in the great snow of 20 or 25.
Matt (23:20):
Toss it in the snow there, child so the before the
bootlegging man comesinvestigating let's say I'm
gonna use the old gap in theknuckles trick here then instead
.
So that's like two inchesacross.
Do you think a single inch?
That is not wide enough to be ascoop?
Eric (23:42):
no, I.
I so inch and a half, maybeinch and a half what?
What I would say?
I think it's about the motionyou employ, because for a dollop
you can scrape off the top.
Uh-huh, you can.
A dollop, you could just dip aspoon in and pull it back down,
and reasonably have, but for ascoop you have to.
(24:02):
That's what I, what I'm saying.
Matt (24:04):
It has to wave over it, like that painting.
It has to wave over itself andstart a compression.
There has to be a compression,the first thing.
I'm contorting my body now,speaking of visual bits, I'm
watching as if I'm ice cream.
You have to go in.
It has to be like oh, I'm thefirst thing touched by the scoop
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and, oh my God, I'm being bentbackwards, backwards and under
myself.
Now I'm under myself and I'mbeing smothered because the top
of me, the new, the newest bittouched by the scoop, is now
pressing down upon me, crushingme like so much weight.
This is the plight of JerryGarcia.
(24:48):
I think I hurt my fucking discdoing that little fucking stupid
thing.
Oh, the Ouroboros of ice cream.
But yeah, I do think it needs to.
At the very minimum, the scoopneeds to have been crested and
start tucking under itself.
Eric (25:05):
I will also say this this is just more of a vibe thing.
I feel like for it to be ascoop, there has to be the
appropriate level of.
There's no measuring.
Yeah, when it comes to a scoop,you're not like, okay, I'm
gonna scoop exactly one cup ofoats now.
(25:27):
No, no, no, you were, you'regoing into.
You have a big container ofsomething and you, when you
scoop, you do this knowing thata good amount of it's going to
spill out of the thing and likeback into the container it was
in, like there's that sort ofdollop.
You're not really gonna.
You might get a little drizzle,drazzle, but like, come on, now
come on.
Matt (25:47):
I think maybe, if you're looking at a scoop and you say,
okay, this is a scoop, I thinkanything smaller than an inch
and a quarter, like a cross,like a diameter okay, inch and a
quarter, I think, is because ifI'm looking at an inch, I I'm
like there's no way that's ascoop.
(26:09):
But if I look inch and a quarter, I think okay, that's decent.
But inch and a half looks like,oh, that's a pretty decently,
that's a hefty scoop.
Yeah, you know what man I fuckswith this.
So yeah, there you go.
I think inch and a quarter iswhere the scoop territory begins
.
Anything under that's a dollopand there's going to be, and
it's got to be, unstructured.
Yes, yes, because I think ifyou've got a half an inch but
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perfectly coiled thing of icecream, that's like a mini scoop.
Eric (26:39):
Yeah, no.
You've invented something, youhave to feel it out yes or be
yeah.
You have to know your goddamnbusiness and you're a man who
knows his ice cream scoops.
Matt (26:49):
I'm a man who knows my ice cream scoop.
I've been making my own icecream for a long time now,
although it's been a minutesince I made it.
Eric (26:54):
I've had your ice cream, it's delicious.
Matt (26:56):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Which one did you have?
Eric (27:06):
I, you gave me there was a rhubarb one.
Matt (27:07):
you made right.
No, not with rhubarb, not withrhubarb, there was a peanut
butter one.
That was really good, I made aPB&J.
Eric (27:12):
That was it.
I was like there was somethingelse.
It was the PB&J.
It was the PB&J, I went throughseveral versions of the PB&J.
Matt (27:18):
Oh, it might have been a rhubarb jam, that's true, ah,
that's true, ah.
So I have gone through severalversions of the PBJ.
I've made a bunch from the book.
I made a coffee cake.
Salt and straw from my salt andstraw book.
I made a coffee cake one.
It's probably my best one sofar.
Ooh, haven't tried that one.
(27:39):
I made a burger cookie one,which was fucking incredible.
Eric (27:42):
Nice.
Matt (27:43):
And I mean I made some basic ones when I was getting
started.
But, um, and I mean I made somebasic ones when I was getting
started, but to you know,cookies and cream and the like,
but yeah, yeah, oh, on a cannolione which I made with ricotta
cheese in the base, oh yeah, itwas very good.
Oh, now I have a notes.
I have notes for the next timeI do the cannoli ice cream.
Uh, but it was, it was quitegood hell yeah, it's on.
Eric (28:07):
Do you crumble up cannoli?
Shell?
And?
Matt (28:09):
put it in the ice.
Well, so I didn't have cannolishell, so I got um, what are
those fucking cookies called?
starts with no like print no,and oh, those don't belong
anywhere, I know.
No, it was like prispriscilla's or something.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So I got those but it's not gotthose.
But it's not, it's close butit's not quite the same.
So I think next time I willorder cannoli shells.
(28:31):
Anyway, we've gotten away fromthe question, but I think we've
answered it.
We've answered it.
So inch and a quarter is wherescoop begins and dollops end,
but it also the structure isimportant.
Eric (28:41):
Yes, structure is important.
Yes, structure is key.
Matt (28:43):
So everyone in our Discord .
There you go.
There's our answer to thequestion, and thank you for
getting so involved right therein the messages.
And this is what you're missing, folks, by not joining our
Patreon and you don't haveaccess to the Discord, where we
can just have these sort ofgeneral discussions, and you're
(29:05):
really missing out is what I'mtrying to say.
Yeah, eric, what's our nextquestion?
Eric (29:08):
our next question comes from a uh listener of the pod,
dear friend of mine and uhliving proof of of the old axiom
all becky's are awesome.
This question is hey, friends,recent trail-based developments
in my life have led me to animportant question what makes a
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good stick?
That's from at becky, the sassyseagrass scientist on instagram
absolutely.
Matt (29:38):
Thank you for the question .
Eric (29:39):
Becky, the sassy seagrass scientist yes, dear friend of
mine, uh does a lot ofenvironmental work, uh, and
we'll excitingly talk to youabout, uh, the environment.
I've read so many uh.
She has so many good books onher bookshelf about identifying
trees and leaves and such it'sall fun, but, and so she's
(30:00):
turned to us for she turns to usand us and that actually speaks
Matt to our views, like thissassy seagrass scientist has
turned to we.
Matt (30:11):
Lowly podcast.
Because she is left withoutanswers.
And science can and I've beensaying this science can only go
so far, you know?
Yeah, Before we have to takeover.
Eric (30:23):
Oh, oh, absolutely Like.
At a certain point you justgotta Before.
Matt (30:27):
We have to take over, oh, oh absolutely Like, at a certain
point you just got to.
Let us take the wheel.
Eric (30:32):
Some discoveries are best left to us.
Matt (30:34):
Some culpabilities are best left to us Good stick, I
think it.
So this is a.
This is a very difficultquestion.
Get in there, Because I thinkit's a bit subjective, in the
sense that what you intend touse that stick for is going to
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be what the basis is Like.
If you're looking for a walkingstick, you know a two foot long
stick ain't going to cut it.
Eric (31:07):
And I agree with this 100 percent, and that's that I was
going to come in with a verysimilar take, and that's
actually why, like I'd like topose this to us.
Ok, I'd like to put the, thecart, in front of the horse For
once, for once.
So there, my brain, my brainwell, depends on what you're
(31:28):
using it for obviously matt, butthat's not what we're here for.
We were asked a simple questionwhat makes a good stick matt?
When you're walking, whenyou're trekking, when you're
about through the woodswhistling your merry tune, you
see a stick on the ground andyour brain and I know this has
happened to you because it hashappened to everyone Look at
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that stick.
Your brain goes that's a goodstick, that's a good stick.
Or, sorry, more appropriately,your brain goes that looks like
a good stick?
Matt (32:00):
I think so describe that.
Eric (32:02):
Stick to me, I think so describe that stick.
Matt (32:03):
to me, that stick has to be first of all, the girth is
important.
Eric (32:10):
Critical, critical girth.
Critical Because now we're instick versus twig territory.
Matt (32:17):
Yes, it has to be able.
At first blush you can look atit and know.
If you picked it up and whackedit against something like a
tree or somebody else's skull,it would sustain the blow.
Eric (32:32):
It could take some blows.
Matt (32:34):
It has to be better than what like it will survive
against what you're going to hitit against.
Yep, good stick.
Eric (32:41):
Good stick.
I know that when I pick thatstick up, the weight weight is
also critical it's got to bepleasurable it's got to be play
and that is matt.
That's the only way we can sayit.
Like there's no objectivemeasure.
You know it when you have it inyour hand you know what I just
happen.
To have one, I just happen tohave uh a baseball bat right
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here.
Matt (33:03):
That's a good stick, the handle of a baseball bat.
If you can picture the handleof a baseball bat, I'd say, if
you encounter a stick at aboutthis diameter, which probably,
honestly, about an inch and aquarter right in there, that
when you, because it fits, itfits so naturally Look how the
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palm of the hand is able to justcurl those fingers around it.
That is pleasurable.
Louisville slugger diameterLouisville slugger diameter, but
the handle specifically.
Eric (33:37):
Not the whack-a-man, no that there is a bow.
Matt (33:44):
That's a branch.
No, what you want to do is youwant to get your hands nice and
firm around the handle of that.
Eric (33:50):
He's now showing us all how, and get the elbow straight
back behind.
He's going to assault hiscomputer.
Matt (33:55):
Get it right back behind, and so what it is is.
It's the front elbow, eric Yep,that powers the swing.
Eric (34:02):
I never got this with my own father.
Matt (34:06):
I could sense that.
Eric (34:10):
Oh my.
Matt (34:11):
God, well, hustle Eric, hustle Sure yeah.
Eric (34:17):
I was right outfield, yep, yep, yep.
I was where.
The ball would only go if theywere left-handed.
It's just called right field,Eric.
Matt (34:24):
It's just called right field, Eric.
It's just called right field,not right outfield.
Eric (34:31):
Sorry, let me drag myself out of the swamps of sadness.
I've let go of the horse of myinnocence, I've paid the R-tax
and here we are.
So a good stick weight.
Matt (34:42):
Weight, we got it down Weight.
Eric (34:44):
it's the good the, the good it's like a weighted
blanket, in a way for your handsonly it's like a weighted
blanket for your hand and youknow it's that kind of weight
where you know it's like oh man,if I just if I gave it a, this
stick would go so far like Icould like.
It's like I could throw thisstick a good distance with very
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little effort because of theweight, if you chucked the stick
regardless of the length, soproportional to it.
Matt (35:14):
If you're talking about six foot long stick, okay, then
you need to be so much bigger,you need to be a giant.
But no matter matter what, ifyou're able to throw said stick,
really fling the stick so it isspinning, huck it when you huck
it.
(35:34):
But I say flick because I dothink it needs to spin.
If you're able to do that, youwill hear yeah, you, the classic
.
Like the batarang, you'rechasing the batman animated
series that's what you want,that good stick, good stick,
(35:59):
anything, I think, relativelystraight I'd say, say Relatively
.
Eric (36:03):
Yeah, it can have some character.
It can have some character.
The character to the wood, ohyeah, like it's got a story to
tell.
Matt (36:15):
I think if it has enough character and it's not straight,
still acceptable, still a goodstick.
Yes.
Eric (36:21):
Because, yes, there's no such thing as a perfectly
straight stick, much likethere's no such thing as a
perfectly straight person.
Matt (36:29):
2025 will be bisexual, as hell Listen to me, eric, as you
were just saying that.
You said you look at it, ittells you a story.
Here's a good way to describe astick.
A good stick, it has to have aclear beginning, middle and end.
Eric (36:45):
Yes, yes, this is the bottom of my stick.
This is the middle of my stick.
Matt (36:50):
You will be able to tell with a stick what is the top,
what is the bottom.
Eric (36:55):
Just by looking at it, you're like, oh, this is the
part that my hand holds.
Matt (36:58):
You will be able to get where it begins and where it
ends.
Yep, I'd say any kind of stickthat looks like it could be
splintery, not a good stick, nota good stick.
Eric (37:07):
Oh, similar to the beginning, middle and end part.
I love a stick, a good stick.
It's got the middle and thenlike maybe a good, let's say
we're dealing with like a twofoot stick, two foot stick long.
Matt (37:18):
You're saying in that lat well yeah good because of it,
because if it's wide, we're nowtalking about a log oh, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Eric (37:24):
Yeah, two foot long, two foot long stick, I love it.
So you got your bottom of thestick, your beginning, you got
your middle and you got your end.
But a good stick will have thatdenouement.
It'll have that last little sixinches.
That's where the, that's wherethe ooh, that's where the,
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that's where the oh, that'swhere the artist put their
signature.
Yes, like it, it might fork it,might it might, it might just
do a little angle, just like alittle oh might just have a big
knot in the middle of it.
Oh, might be a burl.
A burl, oh god, help me.
God, help me, matt, if there isa small twig from the tree that
this branch is on and it'sstill got a leaf on it, that is,
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that is animal crossing.
Matt (38:10):
I truly, truly and in just to touch very briefly on your
twig versus stick.
I think this is very easy.
Twigs can be broken either withone hand or with both hands
with relatively no, uh, no realpressure, no no, real second you
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pick it up, you're like, oh, Icould, just if you think for any
second that the best way tobreak it is over your knee or
under your foot.
That ain't a twig.
Eric (38:42):
That is a stick.
That is a motherfucking stick,For sure God.
Now I just want to go find agood stick.
Matt (38:49):
Yeah, I think bark is important.
Eric (38:51):
It's got to have some good fully barked, fully barked,
depending on the species of tree.
Some trees like I think, theash and beet like they've got
that really smooth.
Those can be very.
Those can make for verysatisfying sticks, very wandy in
there in there.
Yes, yes, a wandy stick is good,good, yeah, um, flexibility,
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okay, I think a good stick, astick that isn't like there's,
there's too dry and there's toowet, too wet.
If your stick is like, if Icould practically like bend it,
90 and there's not, I don't evenhear a crack, that's not,
that's just a fallen, fallenpiece of tree.
Matt (39:36):
Yeah, I think I would say it needs to be fairly rigid
fairly rigid.
Eric (39:41):
fairly rigid, that's what I think there should be, just
like a, a dollop, a, a, a.
Matt (39:47):
I'm not sure I agree, eric .
Eric (39:49):
No, just like a dash of like, just like, just like that
whippy, like, uh, almost like ariding crop, but like less than
that.
What stiffer than a riding crop.
What the fuck is a riding crop?
You know like what?
That when horse riders the likewhat the jockeys use, the
little whip, a riding crop.
(40:11):
Sure, that thing we've beenusing for thousands of years.
Matt (40:16):
Okay, eric, I didn't, I didn't know what it was called.
Eric (40:20):
Okay, okay, settle down a riding crop but yeah, but like
just the most subtle, just likethe, just a little it's a short
type of whip without a lash, soI was still right, it's a whip
kind of like how, like, uh, likea wyvern is a kind of dragon,
but yeah, I, I, I it, because ifit's too, if it's too, the
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stick is too dry.
If it's rigid, then you run intosome where they're like ooh, if
I give this too much of a like,you're going to huck, but you
don't.
Well, if I do that too hard,the stick's going to break off.
Matt (40:53):
If you rear up with a piece of wood that you consider
to be a stick you brandish thatshit, if you brandish a thing at
me and I go that, if you seethe fear in my eyes of is he
gonna throw that thing at me?
Eric (41:10):
see the reptile brain activate.
Matt (41:11):
That's a stick, that's stick if I have no reaction.
Friend, you're holding a twig,uh, or at the very least you're
holding a shitty stick.
Yeah, yeah, because I'm notafraid of it because I know I
can go and smack it out of theway.
Eric (41:30):
Oh yeah, I could deflect it and I will look so bad
because I'm like, oh, thatsticks dry shit.
So when I go to deflect it,snap, and then the end of it,
when it breaks on my arm, thatgoes away.
I'll feel like such a badass.
Matt (41:47):
Here's a good test of a stick.
Right, if you have a stick andyou offer it to a dog and the
dog doesn't take it?
Oh man, what an insult.
Don't you feel like a douchebag?
Eric (41:55):
yeah, and don't rely on a dog to tell you the difference
between a stick and a twig.
Matt (41:59):
They'll chase after both if it's good enough well,
they'll chase after a twig, butthey won't carry it around like
they're proud.
If a dog is proud of a piece ofwood in their mouth, that is a
stick.
Eric (42:09):
That is a stick it if you gotta, if, when the dog has to
stop and very, you watch thecalculus floating over their
head of how don't, how am Igoing to pick this up?
How am I going to pick this up?
How am I going to get this upand carry it around?
They?
Matt (42:25):
have to consider it.
That's a stick.
That's a stick, oh man.
And I would say if you have a,a piece of natural wood off a
tree, that is not pot.
If a dog attempts to pick it up, fails and moves on, that's too
big to be a stick, too big tobe a stick.
Eric (42:45):
Too big to be a stick abs 100, that's too big to be a
stick.
Now let's talk about think,because we talked about purposes
earlier.
Now we can move into that.
Now I don't want to talk aboutlike, oh, what's the perfect
kind of stick for x task?
No, we, we know, we have ourgood stick.
We know, we see it perfectly inour mind's eye.
Yes, what are some uses forthat good stick?
Matt (43:07):
good stick uses one walking stick walking stick two.
Eric (43:12):
Uh, if it's a long one for the fire, for the fire kindling
for sure uh, not even kindling.
Matt (43:18):
Twigs are king.
Kindling you want.
Eric (43:22):
You want opening act, pieces of wood yes, before you
start putting logs when you'rebuilding your logs while you're
still building yes, absolutely.
Matt (43:32):
Uh ooh, propping up the box, the classic unless you're
making a tp fire, in which caseyou only want sticks.
True, gotta have that lean.
Yeah, you can't use yacht logsand tp no, you can't.
Eric (43:44):
You can't use those kind of sticks in a log cabin, it's
just gonna.
It's not that, that's not whatyou do.
No, um, a good stick can beused for the classic box stick.
Piece of string trap, maybe apie.
Matt (43:58):
Yes, box.
You know what I mean yes thatthat is a good stick use uh,
anything that a dog would carryaround, good stick, anything,
yes good stick.
Eric (44:09):
See something cool in the bed of the crick.
Matt (44:13):
What is that?
Oh, what's that down there?
Gotta poke around with a goodstick, gotta poke around with a
good stick.
Eric (44:20):
Yeah, you're worried that a predator may be approaching
you in the woods.
Matt (44:24):
Gotta throw the stick to scare him off.
Let me throw something that'llmake a big noise Stick, good
stick.
Or alternatively, let me grabthis because I can use it as an
impromptu weapon.
Good stick, good stick thatgoes back to the baseball bat.
Eric (44:40):
Good stick going back to bonfires, good for stirring the
coals?
Yes, you need a good poker, notgood for s'mores a stick.
You can't use a stick formaking s'mores no, you want to.
Matt (44:53):
You want a twig first.
Eric (44:54):
You want a twig yes, yes, bits bits of course, a good
stick is always good for a bit.
The classic.
The classic like, oh, oh, oh.
What oh, is that my arm in mysleeve?
Matt (45:08):
nope, I don't know baby I don't know how to describe this
properly, but if it's fulfillingsome sort of random tasks, like
right now outside I have a doorto my carport and the handle of
that door inside the claspingmechanism is broken.
Okay, so I have to replace it.
(45:29):
But so the door doesn't bangaround, I have taken a stick and
put it through the door handle.
So it is.
It jams it up, so it staysclosed until I want to go into
it.
Something like that, a taskthat can be fulfilled by a piece
of wood you pick up off of theground, that is a good stick.
And I'll tell you right now.
(45:50):
I know for a fact that stickabout an inch and a quarter
thick.
Eric (45:55):
Inch and a quarter thick baby Ooh, one of my personal
favorites.
When it happens organically, itjust hits and I'm just going to
call a shot.
Now I know, you know what I'mtalking about.
When you, very organically,you're out in nature, there's a
task or you need to getsomewhere or do something, and
(46:15):
someone needs to explainsomething to you visually, and
you're standing over dirt andthey do the squat down with a
stick in one hand and draw itout, baby.
Let me explain the plan.
Matt (46:30):
Here's where we are all right.
Eric (46:31):
Here's what we're gonna do river's just down there.
It's pat.
You're gonna walk till you seea big tree.
Matt (46:35):
Now you're gonna see a tree you think is big, but
there's a bigger one coming okay, and then you lean down to the
dirt and go okay, so this is theriver right.
That implement you're using isa good stick.
That is a damn good stick.
Eric (46:50):
That's the talking stick, talking stick.
Good use for a good stick.
Matt (46:54):
If you take a stick, if you walk up to a well and say I
wonder how deep this is, and youtoss something into it and
listen to that that's a goodstick If you ever do stick
racing.
Eric (47:10):
if you're standing on a bridge going over moving water,
you drop your sticks in on oneside.
Matt (47:14):
I can't say that I have Eric.
Eric (47:16):
Oh yeah, so it's classic.
This is one of Alyssa'sfavorite pastimes.
What you do, it's got to belike a wider bridge, like a
bridge that you know.
It's got to be like a widerbridge, like a bridge that, like
you know, let's say like atleast five feet wide or so, but
you stand on one side of thebridge, like like width wise.
You're not like not either end.
I get it.
You both look over, you holdyour sticks out equal distance.
Matt (47:38):
Yeah.
Eric (47:38):
The water's got to be running towards you.
Matt (47:40):
Yes.
Eric (47:41):
And then you do a three, two, one, you drop, yeah, you
scatter to the other side, youscatter to the other side and
you watch whose stick comes outfirst?
Stick race baby.
Matt (47:51):
And that's romance.
Eric (47:53):
That's romance.
That's romance isn't it thatmakes my girlfriend so happy?
Matt (47:57):
A good stick should be about the size of a Never mind.
Is that why we like sticks.
Eric (48:06):
Oh yeah, oh, that's why we like most, that's like we men
like most, we meaning men.
Eric, I think we've answeredthe question.
I think we knocked this out ofthe park.
Matt (48:19):
I think we fucking nailed that stick.
Yeah, all right, eric, nowlisten, it's time for the
closing segment.
Oh yeah, baby, I listen.
It's time for the closingsegment Now.
Oh yeah, baby, I have done thelast two pop quizzes, and they
were.
They were challenging for meand I especially the last one, I
bet it was.
I believe the theme of both wasEric didn't answer my goddamn
(48:39):
text messages about what we'redoing for the show Today.
I did so.
Today you have preparedsomething, is that right?
Eric (48:46):
Yes, I have.
I've prepared a pop quiz foryou, matt I'm very excited which
I have titled.
Actually, I'll tell you what itis first, then I'll tell you
the title.
Matt (48:57):
Isn't that the same thing?
No, okay.
Eric (49:00):
Matthew.
I have 10 quotes here, 10quotes here.
10 quotes verses.
If you will, you are going totell me if the quote I read to
you is from the bible or if itis from JRR Tolkien's the
(49:21):
Silmarillion Jesus Christ.
Okay, which is basically abible and a history book all
wrapped up.
So we're playing bible or bilbo, matt is that what you call it?
It's actually bilbo or biblebilbo or bible you call you, you
call it.
You got it on the first try,even though bilbo does not
appear in the silmarillion, asit took place eons before his
(49:42):
existence.
Matt (49:43):
Sure, everyone knows that.
Eric (49:45):
All right.
Oh, also, I just realized.
Fuck, I was showing you myscreen.
I hope you didn't, I didn't seeit, don't worry, you did.
Matt (49:52):
You did show me your screen, but I only saw that your
note is entitled Bilbo or Bible.
Eric (49:59):
All right.
So obviously, bilbo, if youthink it's Tolkien Bible, if you
think it's Tolkien Bible, ifyou think it was God?
Matt (50:06):
All right.
God didn't write the Bible, allright.
Eric (50:12):
Okay, through God all things are possible, matt, for
various reasons.
Quote all have their worth, andeach contributes to the worth
of the others.
Bilbo, that is Tolkien, yes,correct, and thou shalt see that
no theme may be played thathath not its uttermost source in
(50:32):
me, nor can any alter the musicin my despite, for he that
attempteth this shall prove, butmine instrument in the devising
of things more wonderful, whichhe himself have not imagined.
Matt (50:47):
I'm going to say Bible, that's Tolkien, I thought it
might be.
I was 50-50 on that one.
Okay, I'm one and one.
Eric (50:54):
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be
strong.
Let all that you do be done inlove.
Bible, bible, corinthians 1613.
Oh, look at you quote chapterand verse.
I have told you all this sothat you may have peace in me.
Here you will have many trialsand sorrows, but take heart
(51:16):
because I have overcome theworld that sounds like some
tolkien ship and it could besome jesus shit.
Matt (51:24):
Who can say I'm gonna say it's jesus shit, bible john 1630
.
Eric (51:27):
Yeah, baby, so so far you're, you're, you're, you're
three for four.
I who can say I'm going to sayit's Jesus, shit Bible, john 16,
33.
Yeah, baby, so so far you're,you're, you're, you're Three for
four, I think.
Yeah, three for four.
Three for four, for if joyfulis the fountain that rises in
the sun, its springs are in thewells of sorrow, unfathomable at
the foundations of the earth.
Bilbo, bilbo, bam, oh, you'rekilling it.
(51:50):
Yep, yep, yep.
Four for five.
But he that sows lies in theend shall not lack of a harvest,
and soon he may rest from toil.
Indeed, while others reap andsow in his stead, ooh.
Matt (52:00):
I feel the opposite, as I did two ones ago, where I feel
like it sure sounds like theBible, but I think it's equally
possible that it's that it'stalking.
Eric (52:12):
I'm going to say Bible, though Talking Damn it, so,
you're, so, you're, so you'refour for six, four for six.
See, I am doing a new thing.
Now it springs up, do you notperceive it?
I am making a way in thewilderness and streams, in the
wasteland.
I love this, this quote, justbecause it starts with see, I am
making a way in the wildernessand streams, in the wasteland.
I love this, this quote, justbecause it starts with see, I am
(52:32):
doing a new thing.
Oh, a hundred percent.
The Bible, that's Isaiah 43,one, 29, but hearing you.
Matt (52:39):
I'm just picturing you walk up at the front of a
Catholic mass.
Here's today's reading from thebook of Isaiah Flip flip, flip,
silence, silence.
Eric (52:54):
See, I did a thing.
But of bliss and glad lifethere is little to be said
before it ends as works fair andwonderful while they still
endure for eyes to see are evertheir own record, and only when
they are in peril or brokenforever do they pass into song
(53:16):
bilbo bilbo yeah, I.
Matt (53:18):
You want to know why?
Because he got lost halfwaythrough.
Eric (53:21):
Yeah oh, where are we?
Matt (53:29):
I have to reference the map halfway through I was like
what the fuck are we talkingabout?
That's gotta be tolkien.
Eric (53:35):
Here we go, all right so you are, so you are I think I'm
six for eight, six.
You are six for eight.
Okay, the point is this whoeverso sparingly, will also reap
sparingly, and whoever so'sbountifully, will also reap
bountifully.
Matt (53:52):
Bilbo to Corinthians, damn it seemed too obvious, it
seemed I thought you weretricking me dance and finally we
have all the believers weretogether and had everything in
common oh you, son of a bitch,oh you, son of a bitch.
Eric (54:14):
All the believers were together and had everything in
common.
Matt (54:18):
Because that could be.
You know, that could be JimJones, you know it could be the
most basic ass.
I'm gonna say say Bilbo, acts244.
I always forget about it.
Eric (54:35):
So you were seven for ten, still pretty good.
Matt (54:37):
That's very good.
Still pretty good on the whole.
Only missed three.
Eric (54:43):
Yeah.
Matt (54:44):
On the Hobbit hole.
Nonetheless, thanks, ccd.
Oh, nonetheless.
Eric (54:50):
Thanks, CCD.
Oh man, it's been a minute.
Matt (54:55):
Well, eric, that was a delightful little quiz, thank
you, thank you.
Thank you for preparing it.
I appreciate it.
And Eric look at that I thinkthat will just about do it for
this episode of you Didn't AskFor this.
As always, we would appreciateyour questions and you can send
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I don't know why I slurred sobadly there.
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Eric, take it away, uh, bydoing yeah, you didn't expect
that, did you?
You didn't expect me to hand itoff in the middle of the
business.
Eric (55:53):
I was looking up a thing for the ladder business for the
bookend oh okay, well then I'llleave.
Matt (55:58):
Should I leave you to your no?
Eric (56:00):
no, no, I found it.
Uh, you can join our patreon bysearching.
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We have two subscriber tiers.
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Go to patreoncom, slashyoudidntaskforthis.
And, of course, the thoughtline is available.
If you want to drop us aquestion or a concern or a
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(57:15):
Call that, leave us a message.
It's just a voicemail.
You don't have to speak to meor Eric, you just have to listen
to me.
Give you some.
Whatever.
The dumb bit I did like yearsago was.
Eric (57:28):
It's like a 45 second long bit.
Matt (57:30):
Yeah, I should probably go back and tighten that shit up,
but anyway, just call that410-929-5329.
Eric, did I give them all thebusiness and did you Mine dude?
Eric (57:44):
you gave them all the business.
Matt (57:46):
All right.
Well then, from all of us hereyou didn't ask for this.
My name's Matthew Shea, myname's Eric Poach and listen,
you didn't ask.
Eric (57:56):
I'll do an entire oat on this at some point, but here's a
little preview.
They did Eowyn so dirty in themovies of Lord of the Rings,
they like, let me, let me.
Let me hit you with this.
This is the moment in return ofthe king when eowyn is fighting
the witch king of angamar andshe kills him.
This is when she casts off herhelmet and reveals that she's
(58:17):
been disguised.
This is from the book.
But no living man am I.
You look upon a woman, eowyn.
I am eowyn's.
You stand between me and mylord and kin.
Be gone if you be not deathlessFor living or dark undead, I
will smite you if you touch himthat.
(58:40):
So take that the most metalshit on earth.
And then in the movies we get Iam no man.
I don't know how to respond tothat.
And then in the movies we get Iam no man.
Matt (58:52):
Ah, I don't know how to respond to that.
Eric (58:54):
Neither did Warner Brothers.
Matt (59:07):
They let me down, all right, thank you.
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