You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness.

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September 22, 2025 100 mins

Just days after Charlie Kirk's assassination, I sit with Texas Marriage and Family Therapist Jonathan Cogburn for what becomes a profound exploration of faith, courage, and finding hope in dark times. Jonathan shares his journey from being apolitical to openly identifying as conservative, inspired by brave voices who showed him there's nothing shameful about his beliefs.

We dive into systems theory concepts like pursuer-dis...

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Scottish poet and writer Jenny Lindsay's artistic career was derailed when she spoke out against the violent tactics used by gender identity activists. Today, Jenny is the author of "Hounded: Women, Harms and the Gender Wars," and her story illustrates what she calls the "secondary harms" of gender ideology - the ripple effects that occur when competent voices are silenced through systematic harassment campaigns.

We explore...

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In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Nathalie Martinek, a former developmental biologist turned expert on narcissism and toxic workplace dynamics. We delve into the complexities of interpersonal narcissism, exploring how our behaviors often stem from a desire to preserve our ideal self-image. Nathalie shares her journey from the world of science to understanding human behavior, highlighting the paralle...

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In this episode, I have the pleasure of welcoming back two incredible guests, Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, both of whom are seasoned therapists and passionate advocates for mental health. We dive deep into the nuances of mentorship and the importance of genuine relationships in our professional lives. As we explore their unique friendship, I’m reminded of the value of having mentors who challenge us to grow and...

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Jessi Harris spent three decades living as a “trans man” before ultimately detransitioning. Her story is a powerful exploration of survival, discrimination, and the complex landscape of gender identity in late 20th-century America.

What happens when the path you choose to escape discrimination becomes its own form of constraint? How do you make amends after years of unintentionally hurting those closest to you? Jessi's narr...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of The Therapy Show with Lisa Mustard, which she has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, Practical Strategies for Supporting Parents in Gender Distress Cases with Stephanie Winn, LMFT and it was originally released on Lisa’s sho...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some other great content created by my friends and colleagues. It’s my pleasure to share with you this audio essay by Maia Poet. It’s called Trans: When Coping Mechanism Becomes Identity; "When an Identity Takes Root"-- Gender Identity Ideation series, part 1. It was originally published on Maia’s Substack on April 22, 2025. Ma...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Inciteful Sisters, which the hosts Jane and Bex have graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, episode 14: Stephanie Winn and the ROGD Repair Kit. It was originally released on Inciteful Sisters on May 1, 2025. Check out Inciteful ...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Resistance Radio, which the host Derrick Jensen has graciously agreed to let me borrow. It was originally released on Resistance Radio on February 12, 2024. Derrick has also appeared on my podcast on episode 106. Earth Day with Derrick Jensen: on E...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Blended - Navigating the Blended Family Experience, which the host Jeremiah Wallace has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, When Affirmation Goes too Far - with Stephanie Winn. It was originally released on Blended on August ...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of The Critical Therapy Antidote Podcast, which Jaco Van Zyl and Christine Sefein have graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, Stephanie Winn Discusses the Harms of Gender Affirming Care and it was originally released on the CTA Pod...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Virtuous Leaders with Dr. Johann D’Souza, which he has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, Ep. 10 - Stephanie Winn, Protecting Children from Trans Activists and it was originally released on Virtuous Leaders on November 6, 20...

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In this episode, I sit down with Lisa Mustard, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and life coach, to delve into the complexities of family dynamics and the evolving landscape of therapy. We explore the alarming trend of family estrangement, particularly among young adults who are cutting ties with their parents, often leaving those parents bewildered despite having provided loving upbringings. Lisa shares her insight...

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While I am on vacation this summer, I thought I’d take the opportunity to expose my listeners to some of the other podcasts I’ve been on as a guest. Please enjoy this episode of Reality Therapy with Ryan Rogers, which he has graciously agreed to let me borrow. The episode is called, Stephanie Winn on ROGD Repair and How Therapy is Failing Us. It was originally released on Reality Therapy on May 5, 2025. Ryan has also appea...

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In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Maya Forstater, co-founder and CEO of Sex Matters, a human rights charity focused on clarifying the meaning of sex in UK law and policy. We delve into the significant implications of the recent Supreme Court ruling in the For Women Scotland case, which challenges the definition of "woman" in the Equality Act. Maya shares her personal journey, from being an ordinary mum ...

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I welcome back Deb Fillman to delve into the complex intersection of education and mental health services in schools. We explore the growing trend of universal mental health screenings and the implications they have for students, teachers, and parents. Deb shares her concerns about how these programs often blur the lines between education and therapy, placing undue burdens on teachers and potentially mislabeling normal chi...

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In this profound episode, I sit down with Steve Palmer to explore an experience few dare to discuss openly: the struggle to conquer ego-dystonic autogynephilia. Steve experiences his compulsions to cross-dress and engage in paraphilic behavior as contradictory to his sense of self and the moral values by which he chooses to live.

Steve's story is one of remarkable resilience, tracing a journey from adolescent confusion thro...

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Writer, activist, and mother of two, Samantha DeLoach, joins me to delve into the complex and often troubling world of reproductive technologies, including egg harvesting and IVF. We explore the emotional and medical consequences that women face when they engage with these procedures, particularly the risks that are often downplayed or ignored by the industry. Samantha shares her personal journey, reflecting on her own exp...

I speak with Dr. Christian Conte, mental health specialist, author, and creator of Yield Theory—an approach to communication focused on reducing defensiveness. Dr. Conte has worked with people ranging from inmates in solitary confinement to elite athletes.

What happens when we try to communicate with someone who's defensive? Dr. Conte's Yield Theory offers insights for navigating difficult conversations, especially with ado...

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In this episode, I welcome back Glenna Goldis, a lawyer with extensive experience in government and advocacy, to discuss a recent Health and Human Services review on gender medicine. We dive into the report's findings, which critically assess the evidence for both the alleged psychological benefits and the physical harms associated with gender-affirming treatments, particularly for minors. Glenna highlights that the eviden...

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