Young Kings Wrestling Ep. 309 - A DFRNT World

Cauliflower Alley Club executive board member, David "The Difference" Lawson, joins The Palace to discuss the CAC 59th Reunion at Plaza Hotel & Casino Las Vegas, the Roast of Mick Foley, putting together Beynefit for Bey show, Chris Bey's rehab update, WrestleMania 41 and 42 in Las Vegas, Karrion Kross free agency theory, Nattie Neidhart vs. Natalya Neidhart, Rusev's return to WWE + more.

Episode Transcript

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Absolutely. Of course, man, as per usual,
how this we we've been we've been pretty good on doing these
like monthly, right this year. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, man, special
guest. If not monthly, you might have
twice in a month. But we on we on good.
We on good track, man. We got another special guest

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here in the palace today. Royal subjects gather around
making his official debut at Nuck if you Buckingham Palace
executive board member of the cauliflower alley club the head
of creative and marketing of thecauliflower alley club man he's
been marketing his for the last month going crazy.

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The host of the cauliflower alley club radio and Co host of
the K fave wrestling. Excuse me K fave friends
wrestling podcast with my guy NJholiday man.
We got David the difference Lawson in the palace today.
How you doing today, Dave? Oh, I'm magical, man.

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I appreciate you guys having me on here.
Looking forward to what kind of shit you guys have dug up and
let's go for it, man. But the CACTVCAC radio, that's a
different venture, strictly audio, but the TV function,
we're doing that and I may bringyou guys in to help on some
projects with that. Oh, say less, say less.

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I'm always down to work, especially wrestling related.
That's right. I, I love my opportunities in
boxing and everything else. But like when it's wrestling,
I'm I'm locking in on a different level.
So for sure we make something happen.
We're going to have to talk whenwe get off air, man.
But it's been a minute. Last time we linked up was
WrestleMania weekend out here inLas Vegas.

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First thing you said, you said thank you to to us for making
you look good with some of the, you know, the clips from from
the Chris Bay show. So I got to, I got to, you know,
send that and reciprocate that back to you.
Thanks for making us look good on that street Internet that did
the stadium after night one because like, I was a little

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concerned about it. I I get a little nervous when
I'm on camera and I can't see what I look like.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So what? What was there to be?
Well, what was there to be concerned about #1?
I don't know. I don't know.
I was just nervous, like I'm just getting nervous.
Yeah, yeah, it's all love because we was talking shit for

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a minute there and. I was.
Like, should I throw this in or maybe that's on the longer clip?
But one of the things I learned is like, especially just doing
all the media shit is people take pictures.
People take videos of people allthe time.
And like, you know, if everybodythat was a factor was tripping
off of how it looks or what? It's just out there, like

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promote my shit, Get Me Out there.
You know what I'm saying? So yeah, no, it was a pleasure.
It was, it was good bumping intoyou guys like so many wrestling
fans and you know, you see so many familiar faces was like
there they are. So you know, it was a magic
moment there to bump into you guys and connect like that.
WrestleMania 40 man, Las Vegas. Yes, Sir.

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You all over the place? Was it 4041?
Yeah, yeah. Time.
For yeah, man, so many I see youwas all over like I see you was
upstairs you was downstairs you.Up there.
Man Stadium. I've been in that stadium
several times. It it's not a small place.
So like the fact you was everywhere is just like and and

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being everywhere when it's emptyversus being everywhere when
it's 60,070 thousand people in there.
Like how do you manage to get around with all that?
I was trying to be everywhere, like air, you know, and it's,
it's interesting because usuallyI'll watch WrestleMania at home.
That was my thing. And I, I was just talking to my

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brother yesterday. He's like, he prefers watching
it at home, but he's never been to a Mania.
And when you're at Mania, you know, it's just about the, the
energy and excitement and who you see, who you bump into and
the crowd popping and talking topeople.
So like, you know, I wasn't glued to my seat the whole time
I was in there, you know, networking and politicking and
see what it can do and, you knowit.

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That was a magical experience, man.
I ran into, like, that was my first time at Allegiant.
Well, I went for a concert, but it was dark as shit and, you
know, couldn't really feel the effect.
But that was the first time for an event like that.
And yeah, you got to make the most of it.
You know, I ran into my home girl.
She ran the concessions. So I was drinking and eating for
free both days. And I was like.

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Hey. We're winning over here.
Yeah, yeah. WrestleMania 42.
I got you guys. Hey guys, what were your
thoughts on on the actual event itself?
Like, you know, 'cause I've seenpeople they were talking about,
especially since then they've been talking about how bad it
was. I was like, I had a good time.
Like I can't relate. Yeah, I I think it's so I don't

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know if you watched the YouTube video I did with the three
experiences, floor seats, nosebleeds and then watching
from home. So the comparison there was, I
mean, it was specifically that that when you're in the magic,
like you feel the energy like nothing can go wrong because
you're there and everybody's so hyped and that energy is crazy.
And like just walking in, it's like a fucking movie, you know,

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and like just looking, it's like, where am I?
And then, yeah, when you watch it at home, you get the magic of
the commentary that tells the stories, that tells the
background that, you know, like adds to it definitely.
But I saw what people were saying when they were like, oh,
this was garbage or this was wack.
I mean, you got to love it for what it is, but the experience

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of being there took it to a whole another level.
So watching it from home, I could see what they were saying
it would like. I haven't watched it back since,
except to like, reminisce on howit felt to be there.
You know what I'm saying? Right, That's, that's really why
I don't. I try not to watch, at least not
for a while, like I meant to. I went to Mania 35.
That was the probably the longest day of me and my boy.

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But I don't think I watched it back until like probably maybe
2-2 years afterwards. Because it's like you, you don't
want to have that effect becauseit's like, especially with a
show that long and you know, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of
up and down the spots. It's like you, you really don't
want to watch it back and be like, damn, it was like that.

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Like I was, I was enjoying it. I did The Opening and Kofi Mania
and everything like that was a vibe for me.
So I don't want nothing that could like mess with it.
So I think I watched Mania 41, Ithink two months ago and and.
And. It's like I said too, like I, I,
I get in some points where you can see like, yeah, it wasn't

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hitting so much here, but it's about the experience, you know,
you're not like you said, it can't, it can't go wrong at all
because like you're feeling it instead of just watching it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, no, it was magic, especially being like on
the floor and watching all the entrances.
And when New Day One, I was like, ah, shit, you know, And I
got to them coming up. And then when you watch it on TV
and then here, everybody was like, they didn't need that

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match. Like, hold on, that was magic,
wasn't it? So it's a different feel when we
went to WrestleMania 40, so out in Philly, that was my first
one. And again, I had that mentality
of I just want to watch it on TV, be left alone and, you know,
just do my thing, make some food.
But that was that right? There was like, oh, how can I

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not go every year? And yeah, that that was the
first experience. That was dope.
And I was like, yeah, maybe it'sgot to be a thing on the yearly
list the way we got in crazy too.
What's Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That that venue was dope, right?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So that was is me. It smelled good in there, man.

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Like I know wrestling fans, theygot a reputation.
Yeah, it did not smell like thatat all.
The plan was even to well, the plan, my plan was to go to
Mania. I went out there with a film
crew and we were doing a a different show at that time and
you know, ticket prices are low and we had like a twelve person

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crew and I'm like, we're going to mania.
So and like they took me there. I hopped out with my homeboy and
we got dropped off and it's likethere's no way we could be here
and not go in. So somebody did some smooth
talking. Next thing I know it's security
was like follow me and dipped inthere and like got in the suites
and was like, all right, well shit, let's go.

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Yeah, that had me spoiled. If that was like my first
WrestleMania was WrestleMania 40.
Like, I don't think it can get no better than that, right.
You just like, yeah. What was 30?
Five, what was 35 was a mania triple, the triple threat,
women's main event. That was the first one that
year. Yeah.

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So it was, it was just like 7-8 hours long.
It was like. And I, I, I told, I told
everybody like I'm going to be honest.
We got there at the start of thepre show me and my boy did it
was had to be like I think we got in there probably about
3:45. We was gassed by the end of Kofi
meeting. That's.

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The whole work shit. Man yeah I mean bro the the pre
show was going two hours at least.
Main show don't start till 7 now.
I don't think the women's match went on until like basically
midnight. So we didn't.
We just didn't have, we didn't have the legs, man.
Yeah, that's crazy. So watching that at home, I'd be

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all for it. But that long sitting there,
like it's almost like these lasttwo I went to was like, ah, it's
over, you know, but you got the next day to look forward to.
Yeah, that is a long ass day. And especially with everything
else probably incorporated with that weekend.
Yeah, I can. I can imagine.
Sometimes you get wrestled out, man.

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Yeah, it's it's too much. But yeah, Nah, maybe it's a
magical thing, man. How are we feeling about next
year? It's coming back to Vegas.
So we we doubling down unintended.
So we're going to double down onour end as far as like as as
media creators, content, we're going we're going to go in.

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But we we have been going in. Y'all been going in.
Y'all think you've been doing your thing?
Let's talk about Cauliflower Alley Club because like that's
the main thing I've seen You've been going crazy promoting as a
head of marketing. Just had a 59th reunion.
And 1st off, let's let's talk about what Cauliflower Alley

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Club is. It's the only 5O1C3 non profit
organization with a focus on wrestling with, you know, you
got your retired guys, you know,you might need to help benefit
them as far as like whatever they need.
And that's what Cauliflower Alley Club is for.
It's it's basically preserving that the legacy of wrestling

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going all the way back, anybody that's ever stepped foot in the
ring, if you haven't stepped foot in the ring, which you you
worked in wrestling in some capacity, that's what it is.
So I just want to reflect on your journey so far.
Since you know you've been an executive board member, how did
you come into to getting involved with the organization?
So, yeah, CHC is definitely a passion project and, you know,

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being a lifelong fan of the business, just like one of those
surreal things that I can actually make a difference in
this industry. I met Brian Blair when I was
doing a radio show out here in Las Vegas.
So I want to say the 57th. We were doing radio promos for
them then. And I, I just told Brian, you

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know, if you need help with anything, reach out.
I got you. I'm in Vegas, you know, I can
make some things happen. And he called me a couple days
later and asked if I could do some videos for the honorees.
And yeah, what he asked me was, can you play the videos?
Call this guy. He'll send you the videos.

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WWE is going to send you some videos.
All you got to do is just hit play from the soundboard.
Oh yeah, I'm in. Let's go.
And then I want to say 3 weeks or maybe a month before the
reunion, he said, I did ask you to make the videos right for the
honorees. And I said that's a whole

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different ball gang, you know, no, no instructions, no nothing.
Just a list of honorees and makea 92nd video for each one.
So I knocked that out like a monster.
And like, that was it. It was off to the races.
They was like, yeah, we ain't seen shit like this before.
Like before we get into like thecore of Cauliflower Alex Club.

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That's a lesson like for me, like going through the ranks of,
you know, wrestling, media and networking and it's anywhere you
go is add value. Like if you add value without
like looking for something in return, like doors just start to
open. Same with FSWS, like go in
there. If I got to sell merch, if I got
to make merch, if I got to sell concessions, like I'm part of

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this unit. I want to see you grow.
And then it it like the universeprovides man and brings it back.
So that's how I got in with Cauliflower Alley Club.
And then, you know, that was just the first phase was doing
the videos. Then it just kind of once you
get behind the scenes, you see the inner workings and then you
can kind of strategically see what needs help and what you can

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supply with that. And I think, you know, working
on the board, we got a strong board with B Brian Blair,
wrestling legend there, Darla Staggs, Rich England, Vance
Nevada, like just a good crew ofpeople that are all passionate,
got a history for the business. And yeah, once I went to my
first reunion, I was all in. Like I had no clue before that,

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even though it's been in Vegas, I had no clue what the
Cauliflower Alley Club was about.
I knew it was just doing awards and dinners and thought it was a
club until I went and experienced what it's all about.
You know, it was a beautiful thing.
Yeah, that's so you ain't you ain't even been but this was
your third year then it. Was the 30 days?

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Oh wow, yeah, it's been out herein Vegas forever and I would pop
in when we would do the Yeah ring set up for FSW.
So I would be in there and see it.
But I you know, I think the thing that a lot of people miss
is the non profit aspect of it and how many wrestlers we have
helped out over the years that are going through financial

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difficulties. Could be medical, could be, you
know, Wendy Richter, you know, WWE legend Hall of Fame, her
house burned down. You know, we, we helped out with
that, as you guys know, like in very near and dear to all of our
hearts and to me, like I really pushed, we need to help Chris
Bay out in this situation. So it's not just the older guys.

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It's like if you've been in the business, if you've dedicated
your life to the business and you need help, all you got to do
is fill out a request, you know,and we approve it if you know
and, and there you have it. That's what we do.
Like since last year, we've given out $112,000 to injured
wrestlers or people that are down and out and that could be

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paying a phone bill, paying mortgage.
It's insane, but the way we do that is through our membership.
So like sign up, become a memberof our reunion.
You know, we fundraise. Nobody is like taking money from
that Benevolent Fund. It all goes to help.
So I hope you guys, as I hope you guys are members.
It is $35 a year or 400 lifetime.

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I forget about. There you go.
Yeah, Yeah. I think it's like people talk
about like you love this business.
The beautiful thing if you go toa Cauliflower Alley Club
reunion, which I invite you guysto come check out, is not only
you go to Fan Fest and it's likeyou get your autograph sheet,
you know, do this and that. Cauliflower Alley Club is a fam

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fest where you can connect with fans, you can connect with
people that's been in the industry that you don't even
know. Like you bump in and start
talking to somebody and it's like, oh, so like, how'd you get
into wrestling? Oh, my husband was Bruiser
Brody. And it's like, oh, oh, shit.
And imagine like the stories that you can hear.
And especially if you're a wrestler, it's like show up,

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learn some stuff. I mean, there's people that
training you got Doctor Tom Pritchard.
Like I kept bumping into him in the elevator.
We just talked as we're going down the elevator.
It's so surreal. But if you're a worker in the
business, so much knowledge thatcould help you get to that next
level. I don't know why a lot of the
younger generation has not dipped their toe in this pool of

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Cauliflower Alley Club. It's, it's a beautiful
organization, man. Yeah, I I knew about it, but I
didn't know exactly what they were about until.
And we're going to touch on it alittle bit more The Chris Bay
Show and like, you know, I met y'all there and that's not
really like, oh, this is this ismore.
I thought it was just like a little like social club for for

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just older wrestlers just to kind of stay in touch or
something like that. I didn't know it would really
offer what it offers. So it's it's really one of the
most important things in wrestling I think that people
don't really speak on too often.Yeah, I, I, I think it's, it's
education, right? Because like I said, I was here,

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I was a passionate fan and I didn't know until I showed up.
So that's one of my missions. Being on the executive board is
to tell that story and spread that word.
We get a lot of honorees. I was talking to Sting last year
and he had no clue. Well, we did, you know, I and I
talked to, you know, a lot of like Buff Bagwell, whoever like
the list goes on and on of people that go get an award,

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know they're getting an award. Heard of the Cauliflower Alley
Club, have been in the business for eons and still don't know
the core of what we do. So it's an education piece and I
think, you know, talking about it on shows like yours and you
guys now knowing and being able to spread that message of how
important it is, not just honoring the legacies, which is,
you know, like wrestling will live forever through the

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Cauliflower Alley Club. But our mission to give back to
those that give so much to this industry.
I think now that you guys know and now that you guys are
signing up for a membership after this airs is a beautiful,
it's a beautiful thing, man. Dope man.
Hey so we got any upcoming projects, events, anything you

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want to tell the people about while we on the topic?
So we're working on the documentary, which is behind the
scenes of the CAC, again, helping to tell that story of
the Cauliflower Alley Club. So we got a lot of talent that's
on that. So we filmed a lot of interviews
for that. The big thing is, I mean the

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work up to the reunion and there's a lot of work that goes
into it behind the scenes. And it's like 3 days.
So you can ask anybody in my personal life is like they kind
of got cut off during CAC seasonand now it's like taking it all
in, seeing what's next. But in terms of events, like
it's just boasting, you know, keep, keep moving with the

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wrestling media, creating content and moving forward,
we're looking to do partnershipswith independent companies to do
fundraisers, quarterly fundraisers in different regions
just to help spread that word and raise money for Cauliflower
Alley Club. So those are the main things
with, again, it's a lot of work and, you know, building a team.

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So if you guys got promotions out there, you know, in PA, you
know, we can put some stuff in motion and you know, I'm, I'm
trying to make this thing as bigas possible.
For sure. Oh, for sure.
Yeah, we we got. One promotion we've been we've
been rocking with this year so far out in PA, AA junior is

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promotion out there and where, where they at specifically?
Like what city are we? So they're all over.
They're close to me. They're close to me.
Like I'm over in the Stroudsburgarea, but they alpha has his
school over in Broadheadsville so it's like maybe 15 minutes
from me. OK.
Yeah, yeah, they're huge supporters.

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I know. Well, that whole family, you
know, it's like like, yeah, you got to go there.
I mean, and the, the connectionsare insane and you just see how
everybody's connected. But yeah, we would love to do
that. It's just the manpower.
So that's part of my thing is like to build a squad of people
that can get out there, hit these events, you know, do some
representation and like take this thing to the next level.

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But other than that, I was surprised.
Like we don't do quarterly events or we don't do you know,
we kind of build up for the reunions each year, but I'm
looking for more activations and, and events that we could
put on throughout the year to spread awareness and raise funds
because that 100,000 doesn't come out of thin air.

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It comes from members, it comes from people knowing and that
could dry up quick because, you know, just seeing the request
come in when somebody's going through something and and they
could have been a referee for five years in the business in
the 80s, you know, and it's like, put in a request, you
know, we can help you with that.Or, you know, medical bills or
something's going on. There's just so many people

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ingrained in the business that you don't know about that could
use our help. So it's not just the big names.
I mean, we, we could talk Bobby Heenan or Kamala or, you know,
all the people that we've helpedon the big names.
And we don't announce the names.Yeah, out of privacy.
You know, a lot of people, you know, it is it's a pride thing
and people don't want it out there.
But those that have said we can mention them, we definitely do.

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And it helps to spread the word,you know?
No doubt, no doubt. So we mentioned, we mentioned
the 59th reunion that included the roasts to Mick Foley.
Can you tell us a little bit more about the event and
everything that that was, you know, because it looked awesome.
So let's talk a little bit aboutthat.
So the event, like I want to saythat was pitched in January

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through Barry Colin, who he's got a a background in comedy,
used to have a comedy club in Seattle, I believe.
And he did a stand up show for aone man show with Rowdy Piper.
So he reached out. He's he's a supporter of the
Cauliflower Alley Club. And he was like, it'd be cool if
I can bring in comedians. You guys bring in the wrestlers
and we do a roast to Mick Foley.And I was like, sounds magical

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because usually on Monday night we have karaoke night and that
ain't my Forte, you know. But they get out there, they're
doing anything. But I'm like a route sound like,
like some magic. So, you know, through a lot of
work. And he helped put it together
and it, yeah, it came together. It was it, it was supposed to
be. So I did all the the posters and

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the fires for it. And it was supposed to be family
friendly event and I'm like, I, I've never been to a roast that
was family friendly. And as soon as it kicked off
like, you know, it, it took a turn.
But I want to and some of the talent I was like, ah, this guy
can't tell no jokes. But everybody pulled it off.

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I don't think I think just GrantGreg the hammer Valentine.
He went a little left talking about Trump and shit that kind
of lost people. But other than that, it was a
dope event. And the plan with that is to
sell it to a streaming platform and also, you know, to help
raise funds for CAC. But Barry, who produced it, you

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know, that was all his funds that he put into it.
So he donated the door proceeds to Cauliflower Alley club.
It was a, it was fun, man. It was a, it was a fun night and
everybody had a good time. And seeing the Godfather, Jake
the snake, like I said, even, you know, Greg the hammer
Valentine, that's my guy. He's a Vegas local.

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Missy Hyatt. It was.
And the comedians like they killed it too.
So, you know, I, I was wonderinglike, what do they know about
wrestling? And of course they did their
homework. But Alonzo Boden, who won Next
America's top comedian, you know, he he's a big name.
He came out and killed it at theend.
And if you weren't there, hopefully it gets released.

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And, you know, we got some clips, but I do got some clips
that I'll be posting on our channel.
It was, yeah, it was a good event.
Like I'm looking forward to it and hopefully we get to do 1
next year. Nah, yeah, I need to see the
whole thing of that. I did see a couple of places for
like, I did see something. It wasn't funny, it wasn't a
joke or nothing, but it was something Mick Foley said.

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And he was like kind of putting you guys over like as an
organization basically saying like wrestling fans want to
give. Like they, they want to do
things out the goodness of theirheart.
And when you give them an opportunity to do it and they're
going to take that opportunity and run with it.
So like all the time you see, like, you know, these, these
Gofundmes popping up like wrestling fans, they, they

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donate, they, they spending money to just to make sure
everything is good for people. So shout out to y'all.
I really appreciate what y'all doing.
Let's talk about one other thing.
Natty Neidhart, you want to you want to ask?
Because like, you've been the main one here on this podcast

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pushing for it after hating on my girl for all them years and I
told you. I.
Told you I asked you the truth all.
Right. Listen, listen, let's talk.
We clarify, we clarify. First off, shout out to Natty
the the winner of the 2025 New Fez Award.
And this is my thing and I've said this is day one.

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As far as the talent that Natty has been, I, I, I have nothing
but respect for what she has provided to the business.
And, and you know, she's an asset beyond measure to the, the
current women, the women that are coming up.
I've always maintained that whatI have said is as an adult, you,

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you when you're a kid, you love baby faces, you love the smiles
and the the people that are the good guys.
When you get older, you like, you like some edge to it.
You like you people have some, some grits, some, some, some
real edge to it, right? The the presentation of her
character on TV has never hit me.
It just has it like I, I get it,you, you, you had, you had your

(28:10):
family lineage. You want to wear that a little
bit? I get it.
But it just it, it grew stale for me.
It didn't hit. And it's like, I don't know if
that's a creative thing. I don't know if, like, what the
situation is there. So I've always been like it.
If this is what you're giving me, I'm not interested.
But then I see what she's doing now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You.

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Know what I'm saying? Going to a blood sport and
everything like that, you got totalk to her about it.
So I'm just like, can we get that on TV?
And now I'm locked in for sure. How do you feel about that?
I know you talked about it with her too.
Yeah, yeah, I think that that I think everybody wants to see
that like, you know, it being inthe construct of WWE or any big

(28:52):
machine, you got to play the game.
I mean we see the same thing with like carrying across.
But I think that, you know, whenshe renegotiated her contract
this time, it was like, do I stay?
And you know, obviously who doesn't want to be in WWE?
But she is somebody that keeps evolving, keeps moving.
So I know that, you know, based on our conversations was that

(29:14):
she worked it in this to where she can have some freedom to
explore what she does. And I, I, you know, for for me,
knowing the lineage, I didn't know.
That was when I seen natty pop out.
I was like, oh shit, well, what?OK, what is this?
Like she caught my attention. So I think you're not alone in
that. But being in that box, you got

(29:35):
to play the game. So how, you know, when talking
with her was the question was, is that obviously it's something
she wants to do, but then you got to look at WWE, How does
that fit in? Where does that go?
They're pushing different talent.
You know, I would love to see it.

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Will we see it? Who knows?
Because I thought when she took on a Becky Lynch, you know,
right after Triple Mania, I was and they were kind of hyping it
and all this different side of natty of Triple Mania.
And then the next day I was like, we're probably going to
see a switch of some sort, maybeeven just a little dash of
something. And we didn't see that.

(30:17):
So I don't know, you know, creative is a different thing.
I think that it would work, especially with the skills, the
lineage and that persona. I love it.
I love it like natty is a real one.
She like you know, she'll cuss, she'll talk.
She get she's passionate about this business and I think

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there's a lot of wrestlers that you see.
I mean, you know, we could talk about carrying crosses when you
guys saw him at the Bay event and I know we're going to talk
about that coming up. That's the cross that got to WWE
because he was able to create and do these matches and bring
in that persona from his own will of like, this is how it's
going to go, This is my character.

(30:58):
When you get to WWE, it's like, well now this is your character
and this is your push and this is how much time you got.
So I think it's beautiful that they are allowing them to go
outside and do this. And hopefully they realize that
that's what the people want, youknow, and how do they realize
that it's like us talking about it, us spreading the word, us

(31:21):
saying that's what we want because they do listen from time
to time. But I think that's how it
happens. And even if it's just the magic
of these GCW events, the triple mania support that as media
promote that, you know, I, I think that's what we can do.
And hopefully, yeah, I would, I would love to see it like I, I,

(31:41):
I, yeah. The Queen of Hearts, man we
know. We know they talk.
Tahitis, we didn't. We we got evidence.
Yeah, we do. And then I.
Stole a couple of our ideas a couple times so.
WWE. Yeah.
Oh yeah, break it down. Let's talk about let's put them
on blast. What they still Who's the?

(32:02):
Last one, some things. Damn, I don't even remember the
last, the last thing, but like even it it it'll be like little
things like not even just on here, like you can, you can
mention something on Twitter. I think I mentioned like, I
think the most recent one I could think of, like while we
were talking about carrying across, like when he started
doing this gimmick of like pulling up on people backstage,

(32:24):
like trying to trying to get into that ear, like getting
getting into Sami Zayn ear before that the new day, well,
primarily Xavier Woods, but I guess it affected the new day as
a, as a coalition. But like I was over here talk
about like, Yo, we ain't doing nothing with cross.
And I, I always big up cross just because of the Vegas

(32:45):
connection. Like he was, he was in the main
event of the first FSW show I went to and he got signed like 3
months later. So I'm always big enough cross.
So I'm like, I want to see him do something more than just just
be whatever he doing whatever hewas doing last year.
Like I could see him being like Sean O'Hare in 2003 where he was

(33:07):
like doing that gimmick the the devil's advocate.
Well, that. Didn't work out to you David?
Like 2 weeks. Later, it did it.
It did. It Two weeks later, Carrier
calls backstage, pulling up on folks.
And I'm like, this is exactly what I'll say he should do.
Doing the Sean O'Hare thing. You know what, last year I think

(33:28):
it was good. It was when they was putting
together the Mania card and I had been griping about splitting
the tag titles up for the longest.
So they had they hadn't announced the match yet.
And I said, OK, if they going toget all these teams together, do
a ladder match and make one. Or is it do a spot for Truth

(33:52):
where he goes and takes one set of belts thinking that he the
match is over and then they comeout and announce.
Oh, Nah, Nah, you got to go get other ones and somebody else
gets it and that's how you split.
They wind up doing the match andit's like, Oh yeah, so one,
whoever takes the Raw titles is going to win.
Whoever takes the Smack Smackdown titles is going to win
those. And that's the end of it.

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I'm like I said, that should have worked the.
Cup and R Truth grabbed the belt, didn't he he?
Did I'm like oh. Yeah, you guys have to start
copywriting those ideas man WWW.I'll tell you, it's like you
said little things like that forthe last, what, five years?
Like, oh. Yeah, it's been a while.

(34:34):
Yeah, I know they're listening. I mean, you know, and I know the
brain sitting around the boardroom don't have it all
figured out, so I mean, it comesfrom somewhere, you know?
I don't know if it came from y'all, I'm just going to say put
that out there, but hey. I like to.
Take it, but somewhere you're right.
Right. I, I, I watched.
I watched. Unreal and I see like I I don't
know how legit you know, the thethe context, you know, sitting

(34:57):
in those meetings. I don't know if they actually
run like that, but. Yeah.
Man, I'm like, if that's the case, we can contribute to some
of those conversations. Yeah, Now 100% think they pull
from and like social media is sobig and there's so many creators
and I'm sure that, you know, they got stuff.
I think even with this carrying cross thing which is a work.

(35:19):
Let's talk about. It OK.
We, I, I was going to say that you got to get into it because
you guys said his name like 5 times already.
I saw I saw you talking about itand it it's funny because just
the day before I've noticed the he got the new theme song out

(35:39):
and that that right there had mepause.
I'm like, wait a minute, you hadnew music made.
You got a whole video out. I know he he got he got
independent days. I think he booked out till like
October. But it's like, hold on.
And then I see you say that thatit's it's got to be, it's got to
be a work. It's, you know, elaborate, but
it's got to be a word. He just showed up at GCW, you

(36:02):
know, But talk to me about that because I'm intrigued.
Yeah, well, I think, I mean, youspoke on WWE Unreal and I
touched on this was, you know, Kay Fav's dead.
They're exposed in the business.Wrestling is always going to
find ways to evolve, you know, and like, try to be smarter than
the smartest fans. And you as much as we know,

(36:24):
there's a lot of hope in what wewant to have happen.
But if you ran a business or if you're if you ever step foot in
a business, you understand that business is to make money and
bring in new people. So when carrying cross is as hot
as ever, you know the crowds going ape shit for him as
merchants flying off the shelves.

(36:45):
He's doing movies, he's doing documentaries like all these
people are supporting them from since to say, yeah, no, you're
not valuable to the company. He is.
We we all know he is so inner workings is we love to be

(37:06):
tricked, don't we? It's like.
As much as I'm sorry, as much aspeople like to pretend, they
don't like to get work. Y'all.
Love it. I'll, I'll love it.
I'll be open about it. Like what was the last time we
got work on something? It was recent, but it made me

(37:27):
feel great. I was like, R truth.
Yeah, R truth, yes. When when I seen a a black dude
ankles I was like that's R truth.
That's not going crazy. I think that So this is what I
love about this run here. I mean, the R truth thing was

(37:47):
like cool. Yeah, we everybody like how how
can you not love R truth and then give him a moment.
Then we ain't seen him since. All right, It's like, OK, what
did that do for him except the conversation, get him back in
there And yeah, we can definitely get into that.
But I think on the carrying cross.
So with that, two weeks later, here's our truth back.
Oh, hey, surprise, he's back. When they did the CM Punk angle

(38:10):
where CM Punk left with the belt.
It was a week later that he cameback, you know, and it was like
you got to let that shit build right where it goes.
So I think with this one giving Cross, it's time to promote his
book, promote the movies and he's got the film festivals, do
the indie bookings and just build this hype like that.

(38:31):
That motherfucker came out with merch the day after he got let
go. He came out with a humanity.
He got a new theme song and it'slike, you know, and I'm not
still we we could talk all this shit and we know what's
happening, but still wrestling'slike it may be or may not be,
but in my mind, it only makes sense that Cross is just

(38:51):
building this and he comes back at the right time.
But I asked you guys this and this is one thing I ponder.
Cross comes back and to avoid being just back in the loop.
Oh our truth. You get a match.
Cool, disappear for a while. What?
How does he come back? What is that storyline and where

(39:14):
does he go? It's interesting, he can't, he
can't come back and be physical with, with the, with the bosses
'cause you know, Triple H is retired, medically retired.
So like I can't see him. That's something I could have
seen back in the day where he come back and he get involved

(39:35):
with like Triple H or somebody in management and have a match
with them, have a program, have a big match and then from there
on. But now, now that you don't
really have that option, I genuinely don't know where he
could come back 'cause I, I don't even see what what they'll
be doing when he does eventuallycome back.

(39:56):
Does he come back by Survivor Series?
Does he come back by the Rumble?Does he come back before Mania,
after Mania? I don't know.
So like so many. Things can change in that time
frame where I can't really picture where he's going to be
at because I don't know where nobody else is going to be at
during that time. But I do want to see him
potentially contending for a championship.

(40:18):
Like we don't got to get him in the world title scene off RIP,
but like the IC title, the US title, something that's kind of
been eluding him this whole time.
Shit, send them back down to NXT.
Let them let them go around withsome of them guys on there.
They they male division is, we talked about it several times
all and over that they, they male division need help down

(40:40):
there. Like the women got it locked,
but outside of the men in NXT, they need assistance badly.
So if that's where you want to send them, there's already been
NXT champion once. So twice.
Yeah, he did want it twice. That's right.
Let's see now write what you just said right there.

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Even going after a mid car title.
This is why I wanted him to win at Summer.
Same. I know if technically he's going
to leave you lose on the way outthe door, but if you at least
get it to where it's a split between him and Sammy, who's got
the US title now? Sammy.
And he and obviously that's going to go on for a run because

(41:21):
they love Sammy, they're puttingin Front St. as much as
possible. So he carries that for next
couple months. It carrying kind of fades into
the, you know, at least the background a little bit and you
know, you take some attention off of it.
Him reappearing and going after Sammy right away lights that
whole thing up. And then you could carry that

(41:43):
into a program by the time you get there, maybe into the rumble
or even stretch it out to Mania if you really wanted to.
That's how you really light thatup.
But with two losses now back-to-back to Sammy on PLE,
just like it's harder to sell than that.
Because why are you still comingafter this dude again after he
gonna beat you twice? Right.

(42:03):
I, I think that I, I love that and I think that makes 100%
sense for him to come back. But I also think and just
listening to his recent interviews they did, and I was
just watching one last night waslike, even if his character is
designed to lose, he makes you believe that there's more to it.
Like he's trying to turn Sami Zayn or something.

(42:26):
So he he's willing to sacrifice for that.
So I still think that. I mean, if we call this a work,
are we on board? This is a work or.
You know what I, I, I do believeit's but, but you know what?
I was too. But I thought back to the Brian
Pilon situation because that was, that was supposed to be a

(42:46):
shoot, like he said. Hey, actually released me from
my contract and I'm going to do this like a work like I'm going
to WWE working that angle. And he actually went jump ship.
So it's like that kind of concept like, OK, all right,
we're blurring the lines a little bit.
And well, like, like you said inthe video, like it's we got to
create some new Cafe because they don't drop the curtain so

(43:10):
much. People know too much.
So I, I, I, I after thinking back to that, I'm like, OK, I
this, this got some legs to it. I can see it being.
Yeah, I think and and part of the buy in is they made him lose
matches. Ain't cross when we get killer
cross back, he's just going to run through whoever the fuck he

(43:30):
wants to run through. So I think that anything like
whatever happened in the past, like no longer justifiable.
It's like, OK, you guys made me this is cross because it's going
to come back on a shoot angle, right.
It's like even if it's Triple H,it's like I can't get involved
with you. But he starts bringing out these
monsters to see McMahon bringinghis corporate champion to take

(43:53):
out. You know, they they've been
talking about his Stone Cold Steve Austin S so he could bring
out whoever to like OK, you're going to stop cross.
You know somebody signs the contract.
He. Some time Survivor Series, like

(44:29):
you said, WrestleMania would be a huge back in Vegas.
He wanted his Vegas moment. I'd wait for that.
If he's tearing it up on the Indies and doing his other stuff
in the meantime and still got merchants, still making a living
and still making rounds and still making an, it's only going
to get bigger. Then he pops up at Mania 42.
Is it 42 coming up in WrestleMania?

(44:50):
42. That shit would blow the roof
off of the Allegiant when he popped up.
This year there was I was like, damn, I wanted him.
I wanted him somewhere on on theshow.
So like I was excited. That was the last time we seen
him in Vegas. We popped up, tried to help AJ
win, but like that pop he got was crazy.

(45:11):
And that's like, I don't, I don't really believe what they'd
be saying on the Internet about them because I've heard the pops
in real life. I heard the WrestleMania pop the
last time he had a match was andthis is actually a perfect
segue. The last time he had a match in
Vegas was at the the Chris Bay Show and that's like that's his
home promotion. So he going to get a pop

(45:31):
regardless. But like people mess with them,
they they fuck with. Them they're like on the the.
Documentary the people they wanted to to be where he was at,
like he really that guy. But for some reason it just it's
not translated into some people.And I think those folks is just
really just stuck in a way is they they not going to see

(45:53):
what's right in front of them anyway.
Well, I think it's because they're they're.
Like a lot of this talent that comes up that I see on Smackdown
and Raw, I'm like, who the fuck is this?
Like, but they got this background that I don't know.
I mean, they probably did some wild dope shit on the Indies and
or you know, New Japan or I don't have a clue.
All I know is you're presenting me pretty, pretty deadly or

(46:16):
whoever the fuck they are. And it's like, why are these
guys? Pretty dead.
No, I don't. I don't know.
Yeah. I'm like, why the fuck are these
guys here? I don't get it.
So I think that the people that are against it or don't see it
haven't gone back and looked at like, this guy's a monster.
He's done so much, and that character is undeniable.

(46:39):
But yeah, pretty deadly. Even this marrow shit.
What's? Matter, Rusev.
Like what is going on? Oh.
Shit or. Rusev Yeah, man, I ain't feeling
that. That's that.
Yeah, that's having me. Aggie for a while because I feel
like they watered down what theysaw him do in AW.
Like what he did in AW was working because he was buying it

(47:00):
into. He was watching his personality
out more, which I mean, a lot ofguys expressing the pandemic,
thank you, especially in the pandemic because you know, you
couldn't have no fans. They had that space and
opportunity to really kind of dig into their character and let
that out a bit. So so someone like Rousseff
going to AW and you know that the God's favorite champion

(47:21):
thing and those promos he was cutting, that was dope.
It was cold. It was, but then they bring him
back and said, OK, let's kind ofkeep him in that mold.
But it's like source material. We didn't dig too much into
that. So we gave we got the we got the
the great value version and it'snot hitting the scene and it and
it should be. No, Rusev is not.

(47:41):
Like the crowd ain't popping forthem.
You keep forcing us this goddamnShamus Rusev match every week.
I'm like but I want to more careabout this.
Yeah, like. Make us care, do something.
But when you see us again, goingback to cross, when you see this
shit, it's like, why did you letgo across?

(48:01):
There's no fucking reason. So yeah, that blows my mind
because I'm like, are we seeing this shit again?
Like, what are they fighting for?
Oh, because they're brawlers andthey got to one up each other?
No, I'm over that shit. That's old.
That's old, old recipes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I know you were. Getting into Chris Bay there.

(48:22):
But that's one thing that pissesme off is they keep recycling
this shit and it's like we don'twant to see this, but the stuff
we do want to see, it's like they they're taken from us.
And that's why I think it's all the work.
Unnecessary repetition. Yeah, yeah.
How many damn times we going to see Penta versus somebody from
the New Day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

(48:43):
Oh, every week. It's become so formulaic.
It's like Seth Rollins comes out, they do a 15 minute promo
saying the same shit, nothing, you know, nothing new.
And then somebody comes out to face them.
There's no I I talk about this. Everybody makes their own
matches like. If you go into like a sporting

(49:05):
event, a boxing card, right? And keep in mind, this is
wrestling. It's not you just show up and
challenge somebody and there's the match.
No, you got an event to put on, You got a high pitch.
You got to do this and that. It seems like every Smackdown,
every Raw, people just pick beefs.
I'm going to fight you tonight. How about you and me tonight and
the general manager comes out tonight.

(49:25):
It's going to be AI understand wrestling, but I think that you
didn't have your show ready before the show.
Started general manager. What if nobody had?
Beef that night, it's like, yeah, we don't have a show, guys
get out there and, you know, make some shit happen.
It it, it's just, and I get thataspect of wrestling, but it
seems like every week is the same.
Oh, tonight's going to be this. Oh, yeah.

(49:47):
How about you and me tonight? And it just becomes, you know, a
little Fast forward, Let's get to something that's going to
change the game. That's my frustrations right now
with the product. That is why I went on the execs
on. The networks though, like.
I lend a lot of that to them, like like putting, you know, too
many cooks in the kitchen type deal.

(50:09):
It's just like you, you wanted to pay this company all this
money for their product, just for you to want to mess with it.
Like, yeah, what did you, what did you pay?
Them the money for Yeah, right. Right, right.
You know what I'm saying? It's.
Insane. It's frustrating, but that is
wrestling. I'm going to love it.
That's why I I went off. That's why I went off about the
tag team thing because like, I'monly going to be patient for so

(50:32):
long. It's only going to be so many
weeks where I'm going to sit here and I'm going to watch out,
do the same thing. You just, you got A tag team
matching. Everybody got to get involved.
Three strikes now. Now I'm mad.
Now I got to go off now that that's where that that that clip
came from. Because I'm just like, that's
what fired up. It was.
But it's like. Now can we get back?
We did a lot to get there creating.

(50:53):
Creating structure in the. Division, you know what I'm
saying? Make some stories in there.
That's all I was asking for really.
Look like we start to get playedso I'm cool we can get AY 6 and
St. Profits coming up again?
What? And Wyatt, Don't get me started.
On Wyatt 6, it's like what the fuck are they doing?
I. I don't know man, like.
That is the same when. You look at like Rousseff when I

(51:14):
see Wyatt 6 and they're like, oh, they might have a new member
or oh, they're they're it's like, what are you guys doing
that is like Bray Wyatt was special.
Yes, sure. And the reason why it's 6 was
special is because of Bray Wyatt.
You take him out of there. I think we were all hyped and
obviously we miss him and when you see Bo Dallas out there

(51:38):
coming with the uncle Howdy dopeinitially dope and like they
murdered my God, how they born in it's a blunt.
Force trauma. Yeah, he was gone.
Man. And it was like, OK.
And then it just became what's going?
On what's going on? Like how am I supposed to?
Am I supposed to be scared? Am I supposed to be intrigued?

(51:59):
Am I supposed to be excited? I don't know how to feel when
they come out because it's not doing anything for me.
And I don't know who who I don'tknow who is doing anything for.
But that right there is frustrating this shit because
it's like, again, if Caring Cross was a shoot, he's gone.

(52:19):
There's a lot of other ways you could cut the fat, you know, in
that. And I don't want anybody to lose
their job. But as a fan, as somebody that
is programmed to tune in every week to their program so they
can entertain me, that's not entertaining.
And I, I don't think I'm alone, not at all like I think they.
They were taking advantage of, Ifeel like the, the, the

(52:41):
marketing aspect of the Y 6 because now you see they got
the, the Halloween Horror Nightsevent set up and everything like
that. I think they wanted to take
advantage of that, which which is, which is like in hindsight,
that's great because I know, I know Beau was talking about
that's something that Bray wouldhave loved to see.
But it's like there has to be a genuine aspect of it of OK,

(53:02):
let's do this to propel something forward or some of
these these talent forward, because what was Joe Gacy doing
before this? What was Rowan doing before
this? What what was Nikki doing before
this? Like, and what are they doing
now? So it's like it's it's, it's
right. It's not So and more
importantly, Bo, like Bo was just getting back in the game
when, you know, right by the time we lost Bray, it's like,

(53:23):
OK, we're going to finally make something happen with him.
And it's like it doesn't, it's not making any headway anymore.
It's just kind of like, OK, we created the shock value, but
there's nothing sustaining it. It just it's here and it's
there, which is the kind of stuff we talk about with ATW
which that that bumpers me. I don't like to see the next.

(53:46):
Yeah, it's it's putting. Lipstick on a pig man and and
thinking it's something different.
It's like, Nah, this same shit. The thing that made Bray so
magical was the stories, the creativity, and he was like,
let's try this, let's do this. There's like with Y 6 coming
out, it's just a match of some guys dressed up like, I don't
even know what they're dressed up like, but they're, you know,

(54:07):
I mean, I'm all for Kane shooting fire and, you know,
doing all kinds of shit, but give me that.
I mean, what are they doing? I don't know.
You turn off the lights. Turn it on.
There they are. OK, What's next?
What's next? There's nothing special about
them right now. Yeah, it it is cosplaying.
To me, like outside of that first appearance they had where

(54:28):
they came and wrecked everything, like I ain't really
been into it, which I, I wasn't really into what Bray was doing
before he passed either. So like it's, it's really just
an extension of that. So if I wasn't into it then that
was three years ago. I don't think I'm gonna really
get into it for real. For real.
But you knew Bray was. Special, like the way it was
being used, theme stuff. Loved it.

(54:50):
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, before he got released. I I loved that but like he, he
made stuff work but. It's like it's it's the same
thing again with recipes, like the cook knows what he's doing
with his shit. If you try to do his recipe but
you don't got the hands on approach to it, it's like the
magic. It's not going to hit the.
Sink and it's. Like you can't see breaking.

(55:10):
Bad David, come on. OK, OK.
He can't seem Breaking Bad. So every time I want to make a
Breaking Bad reference, I can't do it because he ain't It's on.
It's on my list. I'm.
Here for you man, I I'm watching.
But so you, you know, no, no. Spoilers but you remember when
when they was trying to get Walter up out of here, it's like

(55:32):
season 3 or whatever, and then one of Gus's guys, he tried to
go and start cooking and everything and Walter just like
he don't know what he doing because like this is my recipe.
Like that's the same, same deal.Like you don't know what you're
doing. Let's let's let's leave it to
the the expert. Yeah, even the chef knew he was.
Like, yeah, this is what he's doing.

(55:52):
Is is different than what I can do.
You know, you can have the formula, but yeah, it's the
magic that you put in it. And don't say we're 20 years
since no spoiler alert. Like, if you ain't watching it,
you deserve it. Yeah, man.
Breaking. Breaking Bad bit off air over a
decade now you need to get on that.
You got to the end of the year, action is dope.
And then if you look at like. Character development and

(56:13):
everything. And I'd say this to a lot of
like independent wrestlers. It's like you could pull so much
shit from characters and shows like that.
It's like it's, it's like my creativity comes from shows like
that. You got to watch it, man.
If you ain't watched the. Breaking Bad, I got AI got a
question. What the hell you're watching?
It's like it's it's like and. And Paul, Paul said that same

(56:33):
thing. It's like when you started
looking at the tribal chief character, it's like we're
peeling from things like, you know, Peaky Blinders and
Sopranos, stuff like that. Goodfellas like stoves like that
where it's like, OK, this is thecharacter we showing you on TV
and where it's like that's why they should be like getting
spread for, you know, Emmys and stuff like that, 'cause what was

(56:55):
better TV than peak tribal chiefin the Bloodline 'cause you
can't find it. That's.
The bloodline. Brought me like all in was like
this is exciting who what's happening next week.
I love the tension, I love who'sgoing to come out next that
storyline and I'm so like, I don't know how they I don't
know, it's just getting blurred,but that storyline was dope.

(57:16):
The one of the dopest things we've seen in years.
Absolutely dope. Like just.
Dope, I was. Tuning in like, OK, here we go.
Solo Soco just popped up. OK, Jacob's in the mix now and
then it just, you know, fell flat.
Which they, you know, they can always revive it.
There's so much to do. But that shit was rare.

(57:36):
And I don't think there's been something in a long time before
that or anything since that has captivated me to watch that
show. No, I mean it's Smackdown.
Smackdown ass now I don't even care to watch it late.
It'll be on by the like. I get home, maybe watch the the
last of it, but I don't really care to even find out what

(57:58):
happened on the show sometime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
Hyped when I got YouTube. John Cena's holding the show

(58:22):
together. And he's only got a couple
months left. John Cena.
Yeah, John. Cena, I don't know what else.
Is yeah, John Cena. That's the only what's.
Popping right now. That's got you tuning in, I
think just Cena Smack. Down, yeah.
Yeah, like and he not. There every week.

(58:43):
Yeah, the champion hasn't been there for the last two weeks for
good reason. Congratulations, Cody and
Brandy. But outside of that, like, I
mean, Drew, I like Drew, like Randy, but Randy always been my
guy. So I'm not going to ever say
nothing bad about it. Yeah, it goes through like you

(59:04):
know it. It's like with anything, it
can't be all the time on. I get that, but I don't even
like feel that like anything's building right now.
That's like, oh, this is what they're leading to.
It's just kind of, you know. Show up, watch the show.
We'll. Give you nothing consequential
happens. On that show, oh, Brock came out
and then that's. Where he been at?

(59:25):
That's it. Yeah, you know that's going to
come. Back that was a.
Moment it's like, OK and then weforget about it and go back to,
you know, it's just like this pop here, pop there and then,
you know, in the in between. That in between is what gets us
kind of pissed off. That's been my biggest gripe.
Because you created so many mid cards titles and when in doubt,

(59:49):
if you don't have a, a primary, a world champion centerpiece for
your show, that's where they gotto take over.
That's where they got. That's what Seth did in 2018
when Brock was out. He was holding the showdown.
And I felt like putting the US title on solo, giving Julia the
US title that was going to carryyou somewhere.

(01:00:09):
But Julia barely been on TV. Kiana get more shine in her at
this point. And now you just had him drop
the US title to Sammy, which listen, they could that could
lead to what what what we looking for there.
But yeah man, it was the removalfor Solo.
And. And becomes that.
Guy, but he doesn't need to cause Cody's the so like just
got Sammy and Cody there. They kind of the same guy to me.

(01:00:32):
Like to to y'all that listen to the show.
No, not like that, but what I say they're the same guy to me
as far as like they did they thebabyface.
They they kind of they could be one and two any given day.
Honestly, you think about it. So you talk about.
Sammy and Cody. Rhodes yeah.

(01:00:53):
Like as as. Babyfaces like how do you how do
you make them coexist on the same show with with one of them?
They going to want a Sammy world's How to reign eventually.
So how do you get him there whenCody's already there and they on
the same program? You just move.
Sammy over there to the. Same show.

(01:01:13):
You going to move Cody over to Netflix?
They should, but like, that might be the next option.
It should be, Yeah, I think thatI mean.
And the thing that often gets blurred is like, I think it's
one audience. I don't care if it's blue or red
brand. I guess it's just WWE to me.
So I'm not like, oh, if he goes over here then it'll be
different. It's the same shit.
They can move and working. I was just on Sami Zayn, man.

(01:01:37):
I just can't, I can't all due respect.
I I I love anybody that steps inthe ring.
I love all the talent. Sami Zayn, he plays the I'm
going to fight and get my ass whipped, but I'm a fighter.
Love it. Cool.
But that's over and over and over and over.
Since 2014, been the same. You would well look you.

(01:01:59):
You would. You would the same space.
We all were saying the same thing.
Yeah. So I'm like, we're not very open
about. Sami Zayn, for the last He
ain't. He ain't been an underdog since
20. 14 Let's keep it, Buck. No.
Why? Why don't He ain't been an
underdog? Since 2023, but like.
Once he, once he. Successfully colonized the
bloodline. I I ain't looked at him as an

(01:02:19):
underdog sister. I didn't even like him.
I understood. For the entertainment, him being
in the Bloodline, but I was like, Nah, I didn't I didn't
want to kind of like change the I don't know.
It made for the whole Bloodline saga was pretty tough.
But the Sami Zayn, I'm just like, come on, man.
It was. It was.
An arc of the story that added some juice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was brief and it needed

(01:02:41):
to stay brief. This whole like him still being
honorary loose and stuff like getting into like, Nah, man,
come on, cut that out. That was just a chapter in the
Bloodline member you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I got a colonized bloodline and.
Had Sammy on. There.
And I was like, cut him out of the blanket, man.
I don't need I don't need him onthat thing.

(01:03:03):
But really, Nah. But yeah, hell of a story.
And yeah, let's talk about that.We said we're.
Going to segue and it is a long time ago.
First I would. I would appreciate appreciate
first holiday and you just finding me a spot there just

(01:03:27):
like coming in like, you know, being last minute help.
But I appreciate the opportunityto help capture the moments of
of what was a a special night. Let's talk about how things kind
of came together. Like obviously, you know, if you
if you follow wrestling at all, you know, Chris BAE couple days
after Bound for Glory broke his neck during a taping for Impact,

(01:03:51):
I think it was. And so he hasn't been in the
ring since then. Just kind of been been rehabbing
and everything since then. So it's home promotion out here
in Vegas. Of course they do benefits show
and we had carrying Cross on theshow in the main event defeated
Hammerstone, they went crazy something.
Happened during this match and. It made me feel terrible about

(01:04:14):
my job that I was doing, Although you remember it like
they they was like fighting around by the bar in the back
after Silverton and like all this and like something
happened, like hammer picked up like a, a, a cone.
It was like a safety cone that was there.
That safety cone was there covering a plug that was like

(01:04:35):
connected to the camera. So when you pick that up and
used it as a prop as a weapon, I'm trying to follow the action
with my camera. I don't see I unplugged like the
whole feed on accident. It all just like.
I was so mad at myself. I, I, I stepped outside like I

(01:04:56):
don't, I don't remember nothing that happened in that match
after that, 'cause like I just had to.
But outside of that, you did that.
Yeah, that was me that. Was who knew who?
Who knows that? You that that was you, whoever
was back by the. Table when I walked past and did
it, somebody came up and was like you.

(01:05:18):
Did this or or that's how they they?
I'm following the. Action So like I'm just boom
kicked it out and then they werejust like the dude that was
like, I don't know who it was, but he just like took his
headset off and just threw it down.
He was like, man, the fucking feed just got lost and I'm like,
I did that. They ain't never bringing me

(01:05:39):
back to this shit again. I didn't.
Know that That's funny. Yeah, because I knew he was
having problems with it, but I didn't know that that you was
the culprit. I'm blaming Hammerstone.
Yeah. He he, he uncovered it.
And going back. But you, you got to think.
NJ holiday for giving you that pass that night because I told
him fuck everybody. Ain't nobody getting into this

(01:06:01):
shit. NJ was.
Like not out they, they ain't mypeople.
Man, so shout out to NJ Holiday for that.
Yeah, for sure, babe. Again.
Like, just to bring back my initial question, like how did
things like come together for bringing the show in 'cause we
got caring across from WWE. They had Ricochet coming in from
AW. You had some other AW folks and

(01:06:23):
you had AJ Francis from TNA, a bunch of folks from TNA came in
like, so it was just like, when was it you never thought you
would see? Yeah, yeah.
You never. Thought you'd see all them folks
under the same roof. And it was for a great 'cause
like, how do, how do we from thebeginning to to the night of
like, how did we get there? Yeah, I think that.

(01:06:45):
You know, shout out to Joe Defalco, who who initially had
the FSW. Yeah.
Owner of FSW. Who initially had the idea and
it was an idea to run it as a small little house show at the
FSW arena. And you know, it's like, oh,
maybe we can get this or get that and the.
And I remember even telling. Him, it's like, oh, we should

(01:07:06):
get this person after he said he's not going to ask anybody to
come wrestle for free. And it was just them reaching
out to Joe to be a part of the show.
As you know, we pushed it back as it got bigger and bigger and
was like, OK, this needs to be acasino show with all the
attention that it's getting. But yeah, it was just.

(01:07:28):
BAE hit home for so. Many people because we, you
know, we knew him and just the type of person he was.
And, you know, that dream, like that's all you wanted to do is
wrestle. And so it was so impactful.
And then to, you know, hear about it, you know, the 20%
chance of walking. I think it hit everybody.
And it's just a testament #1 to the wrestling community and how

(01:07:51):
we show up and show support for our people.
But for the, the path that ChrisBey laid out of being a good
person, you know, that doesn't happen that people get hurt all
the time. But a Chris Bey was different.
You know, he's somebody this still gives back.
FSW shows up training, you know,and you're coaching people

(01:08:11):
through stuff. But he would always be down to
help. Like, you never forgot where he
came from. And he was just driven by
passion. So, yeah, when that came about,
tragic. But it turned into a beautiful
thing that night, you know, for it to see him walking down to
that ring and to be a part of itwas just, you know, that that
was a moment there and that I'llnever forget that.

(01:08:34):
I I don't think anybody that wasthere would forget.
It was it was beautiful, man. Man.
Yeah, it was a different. Type of energy that like I've
been to so many shows before, like PL.
ES, like PL. ES, if y'all call them
pay-per-view. Still it's cool, but like been
to them shows been to several different shows, but like that

(01:08:55):
show was so like it was a different feeling like it was it
was a purpose like versus just going there to have fun.
Good night. Like we had a good time, but we
was also there for a good purpose as well.
Like it's it's the best indie show I've ever been to and I'll
probably ever go to. Yeah, it was.
It was on a. Whole different.
Magnitude, I just think from thetalent that was there, the

(01:09:18):
people that showed up, the emotion and energy of everybody,
like you were saying we knew whywe were there.
And I remember BAE saying he wanted to, you know, should I
come in early because I don't want everybody to leave at the
end. And Joe was like, nobody's going
to leave, like this is about you.
Like you'll come out at the end,like everybody will be there.

(01:09:39):
And I think from top to bottom except for the stream.
Except for the stream. It was like a successful event
and the fact that TNA, New Japan, WWE sent these talents
and there were so many other people that wanted to show up

(01:10:00):
and be a part of that show that just couldn't do the scheduling.
I think that, you know, it trumped wrestling to the fact of
we're separate companies this and that.
It was like we're showing up forour people and, you know, from
everybody to get involved in, you know, being on the board of
CAC, I was like, we got to step in here.

(01:10:20):
Like this. Number one, this is my guy.
But #2 I think it's an opportunity for, you know, the
younger generation to know we'rethere for them as an
organization. And, you know, there's no way we
can't be a part of this event And and this night, you know, as
an organization, but as an individual, you know how magical

(01:10:41):
that night was and how beautifulit was.
And you know how far he's come since then.
Like, it's, it's like that storyright there.
We gave him the Courage Award this year and well deserved.
Like, I'll, I'll be posting the speech that he gave him and
Kenny King and just that. Yeah.
Bay. Bay is a different cat.

(01:11:02):
No doubt. Yeah, I got.
I got him. I told CC we're putting him on
our our year end awards at the end of this year.
I heard him talking to Chris VanVliet in a bunch of interviews,
like that's a special story. And I was like moved because I
got to see him when he went to Wale Mania.
First of all, you had Jeff Hardyout there already.
So now I'm already like losing my shit.
And then he brings fish. But he out here, I'll see he can

(01:11:24):
walk. They come out there dancing.
Yes, I'm like. Yeah, man, he came out there
great. He was he.
Was. Gigging.
Yeah, man. And.
This is like it. Was Wale.
Mania, it was like 2 months after Yeah man, it's a month
after the bait. So like to see him, he was kind
of like gingerly moving around like then and see like now he on

(01:11:46):
stage dancing a month later. So like how how like now like
I've seen him a little bit. He posted on during the
Cauliflower Alley Club reunion week.
Like how has he been progressingso far since since, you know,
the Bay show versus then like I ain't seen him since April.

(01:12:06):
So like how has he been now? Now he's came a long way.
I was surprised because I want to say the day before he showed
up at this DAC, he had cut his hair and I was like, OK.
And then he had this montage where he's in the gym and I'm
like God damn. Like he ain't lost his.
Step. He's jumping around.

(01:12:27):
And fucking lifting all kinds ofweights and, you know, like
looks completely in shape. So I was like, OK, because last
time I saw him was after the thebenefit.
And obviously we still have a long road to go.
But yeah, it's just I, I and I don't know if you saw the clip

(01:12:49):
where I asked him, you know, whydid he cut his hair?
And he was like, well, that's why I was a pro wrestler.
And I was like, hold on when youwere a pro wrestler, but.
Yeah, he understands. Where he's at now and his role
that and you know, when he's just striving to get better and
feel better and get back on track, whatever that is, you

(01:13:11):
know, if it's pro wrestling or whatever.
And I love that some people willhold on to shit forever.
And like he's just he's a different type of cat, like I
say, so he's doing great. I mean, look, you know, I, I
think and we could see. Him say he looks.
Good. He looks great, but there's
still that internal whatever he's got going on, I I know the

(01:13:33):
pain is not gone. I know that mental anguish of
what's next and what am I doing and who am I?
That's got to be going on, you know, And I think it's, I think
it's. Super important.
You know, and that was one of the things carrying, Cross said
after the benefit show was like,keep checking on them, keep
showing up. And it wasn't like we did the

(01:13:53):
benefit. We did a great thing.
Oh, and we all had amazing time.Chris got his love.
Now we can go back to life. It was like, no, let's, OK, we
got to give him this courage award in our thing and like let
him know we're still here. We ain't going nowhere.
And I think the beautiful thing about, you know, when we talk
about CAC and him giving his speech, like he, he, he

(01:14:16):
delivered it so perfectly. But it is a lot of older cats
there that didn't know the firstthing about Chris Bay.
I, I had to explain to some people in the organization who
Chris Bay was and watch this andthis is what he's done.
So when he gave his talk and they saw the video, they got it.
They understood. And I think for him, you know,

(01:14:37):
like I said, there were so many WWE execs there and so much
talent with that type of personality and that type of
magic. God puts us in where we where
we're supposed to be when we're supposed to be, you know, So if
it's not wrestling, it's like, Ithink he's willing to adapt to
whatever, but opportunities willcome his way.
It's like, oh, that's why this happened, so I can do this and

(01:14:58):
yadda, yadda, yadda. That's the magic of life, man.
So I, I think he's on the right path, He's got the right
attitude and greatest story evertold.
Yeah, man, I've seen a. ESPA.
Had a had an article on him recently too which I've been
meeting to check out. It's it's been bookmarked for
however long well I'm going to get to.

(01:15:20):
It tab stays open. That story is magical.
And it's far from all over, you know, and he's definitely taking
a tragedy and triumphing and turning it into some beautiful,
you know, that I think we can all relate to.
And, you know, but I, I do want to stress that too, is like keep
showing up, keep checking in, you know, and, you know,

(01:15:41):
understand that that battle and that fight is still going on,
whether or not he looks good andhe's ripped, you know, ripped
again and, and doing this and that.
It's like there's so much more behind the scenes that we don't
know, you know, that internal struggle.
And, you know, the the rocky road ahead is still continuing.
So keep supporting them. Yeah.
And I I appreciate like a lot. Of athletes setting the tone in

(01:16:04):
the past, like I want to say like 10 years maybe of, of
setting the tone of like lettingpeople know, like I'm still a
human being and I still got shitthat I go through too.
I remember like Kevin Love spokeon it a long time ago.
I remember like John Wall recently.
Had an article. Like in the players for being
like like I was suicidal, like Ilegit was had them thoughts for

(01:16:25):
real like and nobody knew like Ididn't tell nobody.
People thought I was OK and likeyou don't know what people are
going through internally. They they show up publicly
around other people because like, you know, they, they
either don't want to alarm nobody or whatever the case may
be, but like deep down inside, they, they have no struggles.
So like, I agree, like even if it's like just words of

(01:16:48):
encouragement to Chris BAE, he posts something on Instagram,
Just post in his comments and belike, man, keep going.
Keep up the hard work, man. We hear for you.
And it might seem like a genericplatitude, but like not
genuinely be there as far as like anyway, buy some merch.
I got a couple. Chris Bay.
Shirts I need to get. Like.

(01:17:10):
Go buy some merch like. Really, really support him and
like when he I say when when he get back, we going to be there
and then we going to show up andshow out and and be real loud
and vocal for it and it's going to be amazing.
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's it's whatever he chooses to
do next. I mean, opportunities will come

(01:17:31):
and just very humble. And that was one of the reasons
after the benefit was like, OK, you know, like I said, that
could just be a period in time. But I was like, no, like let's
when I call him to give him the award, he was like, yeah, I was
like, you want it or what? He was like, now I don't, you
know, I don't know, you know something.

(01:17:51):
I just feel like I don't know why, you know why, Why me?
And listen, you know, so still that humble.
We all have that internal dialogue going.
I was like, because you're the guy, man, and it's you.
If this award is for anybody, it's for you.
And he was like, man, that, you know, I'm speechless.
I'm so grateful for this. And even at the time, you know,
he was like, So what? What do you guys do?

(01:18:13):
Again, break it down And you know, he got it.
But I think him being there was just such a, you know, it's not
just we give you money, you know, we can help you or, you
know, the fans donated this and that.
It's letting them know we're still there.
Like, here's this award. Like, what does that do for your

(01:18:34):
internal dialogue, you know, andjust to be around the wrestling
and get that much love like thathelps push people through
whatever times they're going through, you know, So, yeah, I
don't know. To be a part of that story is a
blessing and. Shout out Chris bitterly.
Slammiversary they they aired this video package.
I was like, beautiful. Beautiful.

(01:18:58):
Yeah. Yeah.
It's just a yeah, It's a crazy story.
But you know, if anybody, like Isaid, Sky's the limit, Wherever,
wherever God takes him next, youknow, he's going to be a success
at it. He's just, he's built for this.
Yeah, 'cause I look like Big E. In the same situation big like a
big E tweet is actually how I found out that Chris Bay got

(01:19:20):
hurt 'cause he just like prayersup to Chris Bay and I'm like
this is AWWE person. He talking about a TNA guy, like
something serious must have happened and I went in, you
know, found out about it. So like you see, you know, Big
East take, you know, taking the opportunities he's been taking
to do other things since he's been out.
So I know like, you know, whenever Chris mentally gets to

(01:19:41):
that spot to do other things, man, he's going to be great at
it because he he's great in ring.
So I know he's going to be good doing other things.
Yeah, Yeah, he's just a A. Phenomenal human being and I was
trying to get him to do a podcast like you want to do a
podcast come he was like I don'tknow what I want to do yet so
hey the. Doors open you.
Know so. That, that'll blow up.

(01:20:03):
All the way he want to do that then yeah, yeah, I think it's
just a 2-3 podcast. Yeah, yeah, something right.
I, I mean, I could see it, but again, it was a thing of he's
got a lot on his mind where, what's the direction, you know?
And I'm sure, you know, with hisconnections, he doesn't need to
be coming to the cafe. Dave came over here doing shit.

(01:20:24):
He he'd probably be set up with WWE or something.
So it's just a matter of time. But also being calculated.
Some people would be like, yeah,whatever I can get, you know,
he's like, I'm not even sure if that's on my radar yet, you
know, So cool dude. Cool dude.
Yeah. Shout to Chris Bayman and.
Shout out to at the Cauliflower Alley Club.

(01:20:45):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna say it again.
I appreciate what y'all do. We appreciate what y'all do for
for the business just in general.
And I think more people need to know about it.
This is everybody talk about like there should be a wrestling
union or whatever the case, they, you know, it may be this
is the closest thing we got to it right now.
So we need to take advantage of.Yeah, yeah.

(01:21:07):
Yeah. And you talk about you as a like
you guys, as an organization, once you become members, you're
part of the solution. So we we have given back.
We do this. It's not like there's, there's
five people that sit on the board.
We got the Advisory Board, but it's the members that make this
happen. It's it's the wrestling
community that is doing this. And you know, I'm so happy that

(01:21:28):
you keyed in on the fact of, youknow, they talk about, you know,
a union or healthcare this, thisis the closest thing there is to
that and professional wrestling that is dedicated to that.
We know you, we understand your story and we're here to help.
So I appreciate you keying in onthat.
But it it's because of us, whichis the wrestling.

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Community. And understanding that whether
it's $35 for a year, every little bit helps just to say
that I'm on board is is a magical and you're part of the
solution to help those that havegiven so much and you never.
Think it's going to happen to? The like we're all thinking this
retired wrestler, this guy, which happens a lot, you know,

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But when it hit BAE and we were able to assist in that and, you
know, that's when it hit home ofwhat I'm doing in this
organization, on the board to beable to say, let's get BAE in
here and see somebody that I knew that it affected.
Because, you know, a lot of times you'll see a older cat and

(01:22:33):
it's like, yeah, he's lived a long life.
Things happen. We're here 100 percent, 100%.
But you don't think of the younger generation and the
younger generation doesn't thinkit's going to happen to me.
But like Mick Foley said, the younger generation is going to
be the older generation soon enough.
And it's time to join the club, you know and know that we're
here for you. So thanks man.

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Y'all get y'all. Membership to the Cauliflower
Alley Club. It's $3035.
You might want to you know. Contribute more.
If you want to but $35 for a year if you live in USA and you
know, if you live in like, you know, internationally, it's
going to cost a little bit more.I'm just saying, we tell y'all
all the time how y'all wasting money on other things that

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provide very little value to you.
Y'all can spend the $35 on a, a,a yearly membership or if you
got it like that, you want the lifetime membership.
I I want to say was it 410 dollars Four hundred 410?
Dollars for a lifetime membership.
Like you don't even got to. Throw the 100 you like.
If you don't got it, you don't got it.
That's OK. Save it.

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Save up to it, save up to you, get the 410 to spend, and then
you'll be a lifetime member. You get to come to all the
reunions. I'm going to get my membership
and I'm going to be at the reunion next year.
I'm going to tell y'all right now.
Well, you heard it here first. I don't see you.
There, I'm going to get up. Helmet.
No, I said it. If I say it, I'm doing it.
I, I, I I'll tell you. Because a lot of people don't

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know what to expect. But when you show up, you'll be
like, oh, this is pretty damn cool.
And, you know, it's especially being in our backyard here in
Las Vegas, it's like it's just an experience that you don't
want to, that you're like, I should have been coming before
because I remember when, like, the Click and Shawn Michaels and
Scott Hall, they all used to show up and I was here and I'm

(01:24:21):
like, oh, damn, I missed that. But I still didn't know what it
was. It's those same type of things
when, you know, there's Abdullahthe Butcher and Mick Foley.
And Mick was like, I want to sign exclusively with Abdullah
because they had some brawls back in the days, but they've
never signed together. So it was just good to see them.
They're talking shit back and forth.

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Well, they weren't really talking shit, but just, you
know, being. Next to each other and.
So much history there. That is dope.
And $35. I bought Chinese food last night
for $40. That could have been a year, you
know, membership. So think about like doesn't
sound like a lot. And there's, you know, we send
you the newsletters which, you know, we got the year

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newsletters which you get quarterly, you know, on our
honorees or on our organization.That $35 essentially covers
printing and shipping for that order.
So we're not taking a huge margin off it.
But you know, $35, you're a partof the club.
You're a part of the solution. They say it is for the wrestling
community. And it's and it's for life, you

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know? That's it for the culture.
Let's go. Hey, we got it, man.
Cauliflower. Alleyclub.org, if you want to
get your membership with David, let them know.
Let the people know the subjectsof Nook.
If you Buckingham Palace, let them know where they can find
you at on social media and wherever else you got going.

(01:25:48):
Whatever you want to plug. It's your time, man.
Yeah, I appreciate that, man. Thank you guys.
For having me, you could like onmy Instagram.
It's the David Difference after David Difference we also got at
Kayfabe Friends Wrestling. I believe that's what it is.
K fake fans. K fake friends.
Switching. It up, we're doing some

(01:26:08):
reconstruction, but then also onthe YouTube channel, which we're
doing the K Fake Friends wrestling podcast.
You can go there check out exclusive interviews behind the
scenes. We're working on some new
biography stuff, a lot of different content that I'm
excited about and then also hosting CACTV cauliflower alley

(01:26:29):
club TV on YouTube as well. So we're getting you.
We're trying to get the young generation, some of the older
cats tell stories and bring thatall so everybody's just knows
where to go to get their fix of history plus the future of this
business CACTV on YouTube as well.
I'm the David difference, you know everywhere that's and I'm
revamping the website so that'llbe up too Nice man we're.

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Going to be on the lookout for that.
Man. Yes, Sir.
Yes Sir hey y'all can find me atrehab 24 on Instagram Twitter
TikTok go to the link tree link tree slash rehab.
You can find all things regarding the havoc hour talking
sports and entertainment on there as well.
Yes, Sir, I'm. The best PNTC.
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(01:27:13):
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Go to shop.ykwrestling.com. We got merch.

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We do, Sir. It's higher merch.
Man, hey man. The David difference here making
his first, hopefully not last appearance.
Hey, man. Oh yeah, we appreciate you
again. We got, we got, we got, we got
to. Run this back and, and, and Nick
too. Nick too.
We got to get Culture Inc running that back because it's
been, it's been, I don't know how almost five years going on

(01:27:58):
five years. Yeah, yeah.
If you guys. Can give me a call like NJ?
He ain't taking my calls these days.
So if you guys can get me a linewith NJ, I'd appreciate it.
You know, he's like, I see him in, in, in months.
I'm I think I got his number from from when we was.
At the versus show. So I'll give him a shout.
Yeah, yeah, tell him I said what's up, man?
Now, I ain't talked to NJ in a minute, but definitely.

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And he'll probably be like, oh, you wanted to beef with these
cats? Now you doing that show, it's
all love and he wanted to be hold on, this is the.
First time I've heard. Him if if you love wrestling.
Like I love wrestling. You're AK fab friend of mine and
like you guys are part of the family.
So I appreciate that and it's all love.
I want to see everybody win. So I'm here for you guys and I

(01:28:41):
appreciate the support that you've given me and K fab
friends and CAC. You know, so I appreciate that
it's all love. Let's all win.
Spoiler, we win. We all winning, man.
And you know, kings wrestling man, we out of here.
Yes, Sir, Gone. Gone.