May 30, 2024 • 29 mins
In this episode, Dr. Ndidiamaka Obadan converses with Dr. Taiwo Durowade, discussing her journey from medical student to gynecologist and entrepreneur. They delve into women's health, the significance of regular breast exams, mammograms, and vaginal health. Dr. Durowade also shares insights on identifying abnormal signs and handling imposter syndrome.
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Hi, everyone.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
It's Doctor Didi.
Dacto Ndidiamaka Obadan, aka Doctor Didi, fromyounger self MD medical clinic, health and
wellness, is located in Kennesaw, Georgia.
And as a health coach, I love to help adults atrisk of chronic medical conditions like
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diabetes, high blood pressure, and chronickidney disease get treated in as little as a 30
minute consultation so they can go on to livelonger, healthier, and happier lives.
So Thank you for joining me here today.
And today, I'm so excited because I have theamazing doctor Tyra with me.
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Hi, Doctor Tyler.
Thank you for joining us.
Please go ahead and introduce yourself.
Thank you, Doctor Dede.
Thank you for the opportunity to be on yourform.
I'm very, grateful to have the opportunity tospeak to your audience.
So I'm doctor Tywa Dwy I am an, gynecologist.
I practice in the South Suburban Area ofChicago.
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I mostly take care of gynecology only.
So no prenatal care for now, at least.
As my practice grows,
We, women.
We need to take care of ourselves.
We need you.
We need you.
So let me ask you.
As a gynecologist, what what, you know, forthose who don't, I mean, like, Tell us more
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about what you do and what you do, what you do,how did you get here?
You know, tell me the story.
What's an ontologist?
Yes.
So who's a gynecologist?
Now the specialty is merged into obstetrics andgynecology.
Obstetrics is prenatal care, pregnancy, postNATO care, and then Guinee College is all other
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women's issues.
Okay.
So, I always knew I was gonna be You know,growing up in Nigeria.
Everybody's answer is, but it gotta be whereyou grow up.
The answer is doctor.
Yeah.
So, yeah, for those who don't know, this wholething about Nigerians and our parents, right,
from when we're young, the only options theygive us only, like, 1 or 2 options.
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Lawyer, doctor, engineer.
That is it.
Right?
That's it.
Okay.
So so yeah.
Exactly.
So that was your story, and then what happenednext?
And it turns out that I was actually good inthe sciences.
I enjoyed it.
I would, and I did well in it.
So they my parents really quickly fosteredback.
So they would buy me books and they would getme in, like, after school stuff that continued
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to build that interest.
And so once we moved to the US, they were like,okay.
Time to be a doctor.
And it's it all just worked out.
I went to, Illinois State University, so I'm inin the Chicago land area.
So I went to Nice.
Illinois State University, Small University, Ihad a a lot of help because it was it was
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closed knit university.
So things just seem to fall into place for mefor medicine.
And then I went to University of Illinois for,college and medicine.
Also, I I went to one of their smallercampuses.
I actually talked to one of my mentors who's adoctor.
And I said, what do you think?
Where should I go?
She says smaller campuses.
You get more attention.
They focus on you more.
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They help you with your applications.
Into a smaller campus, and that's exactly howit was.
Like, all the things my colleagues werestruggling within the bigger campuses we didn't
have that issue.
But I settled on gynecology.
Well, OBGYN because My, I found that that Ienjoyed being in the operating room.
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I really liked being in that environment, butthere were only certain surgeries I enjoyed.
So I only enjoyed, like, the gynecologysurgery.
I could sit for hours and be reading aboutreproductive medicine.
Like, it I wouldn't get bored.
So I was
like, okay.
I wanna do this gynecology thing, but I didn'treally enjoy the OB part.
And, you know, as a medical student, as aresident, all those things are you, you know,
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you're you're kinda doing the grunt work.
And so even then, as a medical student, I wentmy I went to the doctors, and I said, can I
just do gynecology?
They say it doesn't exist.
You have
to be open.
Okay.
Yeah.
They wanna kind of yeah.
That yeah.
That's very interesting.
You know, I mean, I'm thinking back now basedon what you're telling.
I think I really enjoy because, you know, I'm awoman naturally when they're talking about all
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the things women Yeah.
It's It was very interesting.
But, you know, I feel like I really enjoyed theOBGYN obicide more.
Yeah.
Because I felt like medicine, there were justtoo many areas that were, you know, not too
happy, but I felt like with with the oldobstetrics.
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Yeah.
The baby is born.
The do yeah.
Seen the
do Everything goes well.
Yes.
You know?
Like you said, and everything goes well.
I didn't know.
Right?
Yeah.
There's a lot to make sure everything goeswell, but like it does and mom and baby are
happy and it's just so, you know, there areballoons everywhere.
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So that's part of meta.
That part I liked.
I always liked that happy side, but that'sinteresting there.
But,
oh, yes,
ahead.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
You were gonna
say No.
You were gonna say about dining.
No.
I was actually gonna buttress the the OB part.
So, yes, it's very exciting.
When you're kind of the medical studentwatching.
Right?
The way you're the resident, you know, havingto do it or you're the doctor.
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That is true.
Yep.
There's all the schools you're saying.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I realized that, you know, I did better.
I thrived better in the office and in theoperating room.
But so I went to the my mentor, and I said, orthe attending, I I worked with a lot that time
with the supervisor.
I worked with a lot.
And he said, you know, it's only residency thatyou'll really be on you know, labor and
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delivery constantly all the time.
By the time you're, consultant, you're your ownindependent physician.
You can be at home.
You don't have to be in labor and delivery.
You can decide how much OB you want to do.
How much gynecology you want to do.
You can tailor your practice based on that.
So that's why I decided that, okay.
I know I enjoyed this part of OBGY, and let mejust go in and do it.
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And then when I get on the other side, I'lltailor what I want, and that's literally what I
did.
Well, I didn't even know if I should call youthe girl with the of us on the golden.
You know, you just I'm gonna do medicine.
Everything just went well.
Just went into your field.
That is great.
That's awesome.
That's funny.
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That's funny.
Yeah.
We skimmed over all the 24 hours, staying upand studying.
Yeah.
We skipped all that.
Yeah.
I mean, like, you of course, like, you know,the amounts of work it takes to get, you know,
from medical school to residency and the longhours of residency.
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Yeah.
And you know, as an OBGY and resident, you'redoing surgery, you're delivering babies, you're
covering e ER.
You're, you know, you have to be versatile.
Right.
And so you learn a lot of skills.
And then when you come out on the other end,you can decide, okay.
This part, I don't wanna do part.
I don't wanna do this part I wanna do.
Yeah.
Now I would say that everything has led me togynecology, and I'm enjoying doing gynecology.
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But the the the business of being a solo, youknow, entrepreneur business owner is a
completely different world from.
Yes.
Yes.
How so do you mind you tell me a little bitmore about what you mean?
You know, I don't think I understand, but I Iwill Yes.
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I was always the one that was like, why do Ineed to be in business owner.
I don't wanna care about the bills.
I just wanna show up, do my doctor work, gohome.
And then, you know, after I got out ofresidency and I was doing just that, I was
employed, I was in a practice, I was showing updoing my doctor working going home.
I got very very bored.
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Dissatisfied.
Yes.
And I was like, what do I need to do?
Way.
I felt as a matter of fact, I don't know if youread our book, you know, the
Wait for more.
Yeah.
The made for more book.
I'm chapter 23 in that book.
Oh, wow.
Chapter 23.
And that's ex those are my words there.
I was like bored.
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You know, for me, it was it was like the thethe monotomy.
It was just such just, you know, go study, gocome back, and You know, nothing exciting.
You know?
Nothing exciting.
But with as an entrepreneur, you're finding outthat you have so many different moving parts.
Right?
Yes.
And sometimes you're like, did I bite more thanI can chew?
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Because, you know, the business part and thenobody taught you You know?
I know.
And so that part, I'm now learning by being inthis business school, AndreMD Business School,
learning how to be an Ultra No.
Yes.
You're trained.
You're a great doctor.
How do you run a great how do you be a great,you know, business owner?
So that's the part that there's a learningcurve that, you know, I'm I'm it's like you're
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in residency again.
Yeah.
Learning things from the very beginning, verybasics.
And so, you know, I'm encouraged that just as Iwas able to do the medicine part I can figure
out this business part too with some with somehelp with some help, for sure.
That's so true.
Yes.
And, for me, it's been a very accelerating rideand, mixing, hanging out with other
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entrepreneurs.
I've learned that it what all of the feelings Ihave is perfectly normal.
I'll tell you.
Even the most successful, you know, all theMack Zuckerberg, Stella Moss, Sam, they are all
there.
Once you're an entrepreneur, you're gonna haveto be ready to have a tick skin.
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Learn to innovate, be ready all the time,remain consistent.
You know?
So all what we're talking about
Mhmm.
The reason we went into this side, jumped ontothis side of the pond is because of all these
things going Obadan that eliminates the borderbecause, oh my gosh.
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You'll never know.
Right?
Yes.
Yes.
That they are.
And, you know, even within you, like, you'rediscovering yourself in the process.
Why?
You're developing yourself.
You're developing the business.
It's amazing.
Yes.
I mean, I'm I'm grateful that we're bothexperiencing this journey together.
Absolutely.
So that's great.
Now we know a little bit you.
Can you go ahead and share some practical tipsfor our audience as a guiding college?
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So let me tell you this story.
I mean, yeah, what well, you you tell, and thenI'll tell.
Okay.
Well, let me tell the reason there was a lady Ihad one of those days in my clinic.
So, I'm internal medicine and nephrology.
Right?
I do primary care, and I also do nephrology.
And this lady came in for some general thing.
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And during my examination, I asked it to do abreast exam.
And and this was what was happening, like, onherself.
I said, oh, do you ever do breast exams?
Can you do, like, seriously?
I mean, like, It was like she was afraid of herown body part.
Woah.
I'm like, don't you do bra you know, I was sosurprised.
You know?
And then I thought because these these arelittle things that we take for granted.
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You know, maybe I don't know if it's, webecause of our tree.
Is that your experience?
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
You know, because of our training, we arecomfortable with body parts.
It's my body part.
Isn't it?
Like
Well, there's also that I the thought of maybethere's a fear that she's gonna find something.
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Because some people have, like, family historyof things, and maybe they went through a
traumatic experience and Yeah.
Being the person to find some, that might havebeen what caused her anxiety in trying to burst
exam.
People do breast exams, but they're like, theydon't know what they're searching for.
They don't know what they're looking for.
Yeah.
All
this time, you just wanna know what's normal.
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What do your normal breasts feel like?
That way, if something changes, if something isnew, you can be like, oh, I chucked a month
ago, and this little thing wasn't there.
You know, then you can even give your doctor aheads up.
Cause your doctor sees you once a year, doesone breast exam, and that's it.
If you're doing it monthly or every every 2months, you know what normal breasts your
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normal breasts feel like, then you can quicklyfind something.
Ah, so
so so wow.
Every so that's okay.
I I I generally do my exams more frequentlythan that, but maybe, you know, I'm
And that's okay.
That's completely fine.
The the more repetition, the more repetitionthere is.
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Money get familiar with the landscape.
Yes.
More familiar with the landscape.
Yes.
The more familiar you are, the easier it is.
But, you know, ideally, we don't want youfeeling something in the breast.
You know?
We want you either, get it.
We want if we're gonna find anything abnormal,we wanna see it on mammogram because then when
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you're the earliest stage, fine.
Now this time you're feeling feeling it and itgot for benefits cancer, it's a higher stage.
If you're if the the 1 centimeter, 2centimeter, it begins to increase the stage.
Stage twos, two centimeters, and and upwardslike that.
So most of the time, we just want you to knowwhat your normal breasts feel like.
We want you to get your mammograms at 8:40.
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If there's anybody in the family with breastcancer younger than age fifty, then you might
wanna be getting your program younger than ageforty.
So if somebody got their mom, got somebody inthe family got breast cancer at 46, other women
in the family start at 30 They're not gonnawait till 40 to start doing breast mammograms.
Yeah.
So that's why family history is important.
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My patients would be saying, oh, we don't talkabout that in my family.
I'm like, you start the conversation.
Yes.
Start it.
Yeah.
Stop asking stop asking questions.
Does anybody have is there a history of ofbreast cancer in the family?
What age was this on to when she had breastcancer?
You know, that way you can get yourself screenproperly and protect it.
So it doesn't repeat itself in the family.
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So many helpful nuggets.
That's amazing.
Yes.
Is important.
Self breast exam is important.
However, it's better to make sure you'resticking with your mammograms.
Because they will detect even before the canceris palpable.
Exactly.
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Can be felt.
Popable meaning that can be felt.
Right?
And, if you have a family history of breastcancer, you may not have to wait 40, which is
this on that screening Then
it is.
Age.
You might have to do it sooner.
That's thank you.
That's, a very those are great tips.
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You know, I mean, and that that that'sdefinitely more than 3.
If you wanna give us some extra, please feelfree.
Throw some As a gynecologist, everyone's alwaysasking me, you know, what are the right soaps,
detergents, things to keep you a pH balance orpeople who are having a p vaginal discharge.
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That's probably, like, the biggest thing I seemy patients come into the office for.
Yeah.
Vaginal discharge.
And when it begins to be recurrent, you know,after sexual intercourse, after periods, you
know, or regardless of whatever activitythey're doing.
So the first thing I ask is, are you using anysentence?
So And then they're listing lavender somethingsomething from Obadan and body works, and I'm
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just, like, toss it, throw it out.
Yeah.
Something sensitive, something to it.
I know.
Yeah.
Because those things are kind of irritate, andthey even cause small problems.
Yes.
The glands, you know, they they they aresupposed to have a certain consistency.
That's correct.
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You know?
Yeah.
And that's yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So no centered
products.
I would say to wash your body and wash yourprivate parts, no scented products.
Right.
What about dental products?
Have you heard of this?
Yeah.
Oh, well, obviously, I'm familiar with theDushyin.
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Oh, And No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
I didn't I'm not pronouncing that correctly.
Yeah.
Dushi.
Yeah.
That's what I call it.
Dushi.
But is it a friend origin.
It's more in some places, it's
like Douche.
So, you know Yeah.
It's possible.
But that's what we're talking about.
The the fact, yeah, that's not recommended aswell.
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Right?
At all.
Because the vagina has an environment and abalance of bacteria.
Yeah.
And when you're duching, you're not selectivelyremoving the bad bacteria.
You're removing all bacteria.
So when you remove all bacteria, you'reremoving your good bacteria as well.
The good bacteria is called lactobacilli.
That's the good bacteria that keeps the pHObadan.
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So if you're douching and you're using allthese scented stuff to wash out the vagina,
then you're washing out the good bacteria thatcan keep your pH Obadan.
And then you're gonna keep on getting badbacteria, yeast infections, bacterial
infections, and just discomfort.
Discharged with an odor.
That's, like, one of the, most common things Itreat in my office.
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And most of the time, I don't even give themantibiotics.
I just tell them What are you using in yourhygiene that's scented?
Take it out.
Try it for a week and then come back.
And then most of the time, they're fine.
They're like, oh my I'd run away.
I'm like, yes.
Because you left the vagina alone.
That's that's such a great tip.
That's an amazing tip.
Because it's interesting.
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Yes.
Leave her
alone.
I'm trying to put all the things in there thatdon't belong there.
3.
So what what is normal?
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Because, you know, the other day, I I rememberI had to explain to one of my patients who was
concerned about some normal you know, what Idescribed felt was normal,
you
know, inconsistency.
You know, I kinda explained about how, it thetexture changes, throughout the menstrual
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cycle.
In fact, back in the day, you know, historytells us that the women were smart enough to
use.
You what's that technique?
Erica mucus.
Correct.
Yeah.
Use that.
Density of the Circular Lucas to determineeverything.
Yeah.
Know when they were fertile to know when theywere, you
know, it
is it is normal.
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To have some discharge, right, not alldischarge is pathological or correct treatment.
Correct.
So it is normal to have vaginal charge.
There it's it's a living organism.
So it has glands.
It's gonna have, some, you know, fluid comingout of it.
So you consider normal discharge is that it'snot a lot.
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It's not a lot that it's making your underwearwet and
Yeah.
By the time you start having him to wear padsYes.
Or having to switch, you know, then that's aproblem.
Correct.
Okay.
And it doesn't have an offensive order.
Now a lot of people are always like, okay.
Which order is rights?
Which order is So okay.
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Right.
Yeah.
So as long as it, you know, you're you're notstanding next to somebody that they can smell
it, then it's not a strong odor as long as it'snot fishy.
It's not fishy.
Yeah.
You know, so it's gonna have your body odor,but as long as it's not offensive, and it's
not, too strong.
I mean, you know, just think about the othergloves.
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Like, you're you're you're having
sweat glass.
Under arms.
Yeah.
Arms, they have a kinda, you know, you have a akind of smell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is not offensive.
You know?
Exactly.
And and and exercise the same thing.
Just agree with what you're talking about theglands.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Thing that they see.
The people will be telling me that there'salways something on my under.
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I'm, like, Yes.
There's something on your underwear.
Doesn't mean that there's something wrong.
It's working.
Correct.
It's working.
So the, what's normal is, it's not a lot.
It's not offensive.
It's not greenish yellow.
It's not like fancy colors.
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So either clear or either white.
Right.
Right now.
We want others colors.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So yeah.
Yeah.
And other alarm and size, I always tell mypatients, a lower abdominal pain when you have
sex, bleeding, you know, like we said, wetalked about the color should be, if it's
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abnormal bleeding outside, you period.
Okay.
Mhmm.
Mhmm.
Yeah, those are the things that should makeblurry fevers and Yeah.
Absolutely.
And people with, pain with sex, especially if,you know, when I evaluate them, what I try to
identify is, is it in one particular spot?
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Or is it in the ovaries?
Is it in the vagina?
Is it on the outside, the vulva?
Or is it when I move the uterus around?
So there's so many areas down there that helpus to figure out where is your pain coming
from.
Because some people, they're sexually activewhen they're ovulating.
When you're ovulating, you just released a anegg from your ovary.
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Your ovary is a little bit enlarged.
There's a little bit of fluid in your pelvis.
That's gonna hurt.
So I tell them, just don't be sexually trackyour periods.
Find when around the time you are within anddon't be sexually active during that time.
But there are some people that I moved theiruterus around and it reproduces the same pain
that they feel during sex, then we startworrying about infection in the uterus
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Yes.
Causing inflammatory disease
Correct.
Yeah.
Things like that.
Right.
Right.
Well, this is so good.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely.
We've learned it a lot.
We've learned it a lot.
Okay.
So let's move on now because we can we can Ican definitely talk about this all day long
women's health, women are important?
Our bodies are unique.
There are a lot of peculiarities, and wedefinitely need to keep on learning because she
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know more and more what kind of discovering newthings every day.
And, in the field, even in the field ofscience, about women's health, you
know?
Absolutely.
And and it's very interesting.
So but, you know, why don't you go ahead andshare something interesting with us that
happened to you recently or something you'velearned, that made you feel empowered.
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You know, outside of medicine.
If if Really?
Outside of medicine.
Girl, what doctor or what can be other thingstoo?
This is true.
This is true.
I think it's what you said actually about theyou're learning more about yourself as as an
when you become an entrepreneur.
Because there are so many moving parts andyou're trying to decide, okay.
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What am I good at?
Like, one of the things I always tell peoplewhen they're asking me do I know what I wanna
be in life?
I'm like, what are you good at?
And so when, you know, being an entrepreneur,you know, you're having all these feelings.
You're like, am I really good at this?
You're having all these doubts.
You're having all these questions.
And then you meet other people who areentrepreneurs and realize that they're having
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the same questions, whether they have a smallbusiness, whether they have a large business,
they're having the same doubts.
They're having the same feelings that you'refeeling.
So it, like, okay.
I am I'm normal, just like you said.
Yeah.
I mean, and and we're so kind of physician's,you know, a plus plus personality, high
achievas, like, fun with the golden spoon.
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What's hot?
Always get into entrepreneurship.
Everything is not
just Do you mind us?
I know.
Yes.
They wake up on 1 and it's d f.
What a f from me?
Oh, look at you, see?
You're so you're so hot.
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You can't you can't die, right, forget theYeah.
It it has to be a c minus to be, like, whatabout the
If it's an ad, there's no points.
Right.
You know?
And, yeah, and you hear I've heard them callthemselves We call ourselves.
I don't use the word imposter syndrome myself.
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You know, but I've heard this, suffering fromimposter syndrome.
I have this 1 and that one.
I'm like, oh, really?
What did you just have interpret?
No syndrome?
I mean, if all these people I'm going throughall these things like this multi billionaires
ultra, rich ultra successful.
Why are you not to go through it?
But, you know, if you don't go through it, thenit's I
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mean, are you truly an entrepreneur?
Yeah.
So it's interesting you mentioned that impostersyndrome because I did when I went to the, the
conference, the business school conference,and, I that was what I realized about myself
that I hadn't labeled it.
But that's actually where I was.
I wasn't identifying as the boss, the CEO.
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I was still identifying as just the doctor.
You know?
And so the part of being a business owner iscoming out as the boss, acting like the boss,
showing up as the boss, delegating as the boss,I'll be trying to do things myself.
Like, I don't wanna bother the people I hired.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Exactly.
Telling you.
So I I you know, I had to backtrack.
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So that's sort of one of the things that Irealized, and it was good to know that other
people had fell that way.
Other people who are doing big things also feltalways.
So I I felt less out of place.
You know, like you said, high achiever, a plusalways to now be in a space where I'm not, you
know, I don't, you know, I'm having secondthoughts.
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I'm doubting.
I used to be like, yes.
I know what I wanna do.
And now I'm like, Am I sure?
Is this the right step?
So it's a new space, but it's good to it's goodto connect with people who feel the same way
and who have been successful.
That empowers me that, okay.
I'm just going through what an entrepreneurgoes through, and the end is success.
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So that has mean, the last
last Let's go ahead and treat, mark the termentrepreneur syndrome.
We're going through the entrepreneurship, aweb, a different nursing room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The
whole Absolutely.
Well, this has been wonderful.
Thank ahead of your time.
Keep our conversations not too long.
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So before we leave, Can you, we know you're inIllinois, but how can we, how if anybody wants
to work with you, how can
we find you?
Absolutely.
Thank you.
So the name of my practice is Dad DurduraGynecology, d a r d u r, gynecology.
So diodomemedical.com is my website.
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There's a contact us form there.
I'm on Instagram, Diodome Medical Group.
I'm on Facebook.
At organicology.
I'm on YouTube.
I think I'm on TikTok now too.
So another platform possible.
And I've watched some of your videos.
They are very educational, and they're veryentertaining.
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They're really nice.
So Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate the feedback.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for joining us today.
Hi, everyone.
It's Doctor Didi from younger self MD MedicalClinic Health And Wellness located in Kennesaw,
Georgia.
We're currently accepting patients for primarycare and nephrology.
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If you know anyone who might benefit fromdiabetes, care, high blood pressure care, and
we do obesity, weight loss management, give usa call.
On 4045664623.
And our website is youngercellmd.com.
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So, yeah, you could always book an appointmentthere as well.
This was so good.
We were so
I love that.
I love that.
Younger self MD.
I love that.
Yes, Linda.
In the next episode that we have, I'm gonnacall you back for part 2.
I'll tell you more a little bit about how thename came about.
Yeah.
I'm I'm interested.
I'm curious.
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Time.
Yes.
Alright.
Well, thank you.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Hi, everyone.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
It's Doctor Didi.
Dacto Ndidiamaka Obadan, aka Doctor Didi, fromyounger self MD medical clinic, health and
wellness, is located in Kennesaw, Georgia.
And as a health coach, I love to help adults atrisk of chronic medical conditions like
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diabetes, high blood pressure, and chronickidney disease get treated in as little as a 30
minute consultation so they can go on to livelonger, healthier, and happier lives.
So Thank you for joining me here today.
And today, I'm so excited because I have theamazing doctor Tyra with me.
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Hi, Doctor Tyler.
Thank you for joining us.
Please go ahead and introduce yourself.
Thank you, Doctor Dede.
Thank you for the opportunity to be on yourform.
I'm very, grateful to have the opportunity tospeak to your audience.
So I'm doctor Tywa Dwy I am an, gynecologist.
I practice in the South Suburban Area ofChicago.
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I mostly take care of gynecology only.
So no prenatal care for now, at least.
As my practice grows,
We, women.
We need to take care of ourselves.
We need you.
We need you.
So let me ask you.
As a gynecologist, what what, you know, forthose who don't, I mean, like, Tell us more
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about what you do and what you do, what you do,how did you get here?
You know, tell me the story.
What's an ontologist?
Yes.
So who's a gynecologist?
Now the specialty is merged into obstetrics andgynecology.
Obstetrics is prenatal care, pregnancy, postNATO care, and then Guinee College is all other
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women's issues.
Okay.
So, I always knew I was gonna be You know,growing up in Nigeria.
Everybody's answer is, but it gotta be whereyou grow up.
The answer is doctor.
Yeah.
So, yeah, for those who don't know, this wholething about Nigerians and our parents, right,
from when we're young, the only options theygive us only, like, 1 or 2 options.
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Lawyer, doctor, engineer.
That is it.
Right?
That's it.
Okay.
So so yeah.
Exactly.
So that was your story, and then what happenednext?
And it turns out that I was actually good inthe sciences.
I enjoyed it.
I would, and I did well in it.
So they my parents really quickly fosteredback.
So they would buy me books and they would getme in, like, after school stuff that continued
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to build that interest.
And so once we moved to the US, they were like,okay.
Time to be a doctor.
And it's it all just worked out.
I went to, Illinois State University, so I'm inin the Chicago land area.
So I went to Nice.
Illinois State University, Small University, Ihad a a lot of help because it was it was
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closed knit university.
So things just seem to fall into place for mefor medicine.
And then I went to University of Illinois for,college and medicine.
Also, I I went to one of their smallercampuses.
I actually talked to one of my mentors who's adoctor.
And I said, what do you think?
Where should I go?
She says smaller campuses.
You get more attention.
They focus on you more.
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They help you with your applications.
Into a smaller campus, and that's exactly howit was.
Like, all the things my colleagues werestruggling within the bigger campuses we didn't
have that issue.
But I settled on gynecology.
Well, OBGYN because My, I found that that Ienjoyed being in the operating room.
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I really liked being in that environment, butthere were only certain surgeries I enjoyed.
So I only enjoyed, like, the gynecologysurgery.
I could sit for hours and be reading aboutreproductive medicine.
Like, it I wouldn't get bored.
So I was
like, okay.
I wanna do this gynecology thing, but I didn'treally enjoy the OB part.
And, you know, as a medical student, as aresident, all those things are you, you know,
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you're you're kinda doing the grunt work.
And so even then, as a medical student, I wentmy I went to the doctors, and I said, can I
just do gynecology?
They say it doesn't exist.
You have
to be open.
Okay.
Yeah.
They wanna kind of yeah.
That yeah.
That's very interesting.
You know, I mean, I'm thinking back now basedon what you're telling.
I think I really enjoy because, you know, I'm awoman naturally when they're talking about all
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the things women Yeah.
It's It was very interesting.
But, you know, I feel like I really enjoyed theOBGYN obicide more.
Yeah.
Because I felt like medicine, there were justtoo many areas that were, you know, not too
happy, but I felt like with with the oldobstetrics.
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Yeah.
The baby is born.
The do yeah.
Seen the
do Everything goes well.
Yes.
You know?
Like you said, and everything goes well.
I didn't know.
Right?
Yeah.
There's a lot to make sure everything goeswell, but like it does and mom and baby are
happy and it's just so, you know, there areballoons everywhere.
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So that's part of meta.
That part I liked.
I always liked that happy side, but that'sinteresting there.
But,
oh, yes,
ahead.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
You were gonna
say No.
You were gonna say about dining.
No.
I was actually gonna buttress the the OB part.
So, yes, it's very exciting.
When you're kind of the medical studentwatching.
Right?
The way you're the resident, you know, havingto do it or you're the doctor.
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That is true.
Yep.
There's all the schools you're saying.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I realized that, you know, I did better.
I thrived better in the office and in theoperating room.
But so I went to the my mentor, and I said, orthe attending, I I worked with a lot that time
with the supervisor.
I worked with a lot.
And he said, you know, it's only residency thatyou'll really be on you know, labor and
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delivery constantly all the time.
By the time you're, consultant, you're your ownindependent physician.
You can be at home.
You don't have to be in labor and delivery.
You can decide how much OB you want to do.
How much gynecology you want to do.
You can tailor your practice based on that.
So that's why I decided that, okay.
I know I enjoyed this part of OBGY, and let mejust go in and do it.
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And then when I get on the other side, I'lltailor what I want, and that's literally what I
did.
Well, I didn't even know if I should call youthe girl with the of us on the golden.
You know, you just I'm gonna do medicine.
Everything just went well.
Just went into your field.
That is great.
That's awesome.
That's funny.
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That's funny.
Yeah.
We skimmed over all the 24 hours, staying upand studying.
Yeah.
We skipped all that.
Yeah.
I mean, like, you of course, like, you know,the amounts of work it takes to get, you know,
from medical school to residency and the longhours of residency.
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Yeah.
And you know, as an OBGY and resident, you'redoing surgery, you're delivering babies, you're
covering e ER.
You're, you know, you have to be versatile.
Right.
And so you learn a lot of skills.
And then when you come out on the other end,you can decide, okay.
This part, I don't wanna do part.
I don't wanna do this part I wanna do.
Yeah.
Now I would say that everything has led me togynecology, and I'm enjoying doing gynecology.
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But the the the business of being a solo, youknow, entrepreneur business owner is a
completely different world from.
Yes.
Yes.
How so do you mind you tell me a little bitmore about what you mean?
You know, I don't think I understand, but I Iwill Yes.
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I was always the one that was like, why do Ineed to be in business owner.
I don't wanna care about the bills.
I just wanna show up, do my doctor work, gohome.
And then, you know, after I got out ofresidency and I was doing just that, I was
employed, I was in a practice, I was showing updoing my doctor working going home.
I got very very bored.
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Dissatisfied.
Yes.
And I was like, what do I need to do?
Way.
I felt as a matter of fact, I don't know if youread our book, you know, the
Wait for more.
Yeah.
The made for more book.
I'm chapter 23 in that book.
Oh, wow.
Chapter 23.
And that's ex those are my words there.
I was like bored.
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You know, for me, it was it was like the thethe monotomy.
It was just such just, you know, go study, gocome back, and You know, nothing exciting.
You know?
Nothing exciting.
But with as an entrepreneur, you're finding outthat you have so many different moving parts.
Right?
Yes.
And sometimes you're like, did I bite more thanI can chew?
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Because, you know, the business part and thenobody taught you You know?
I know.
And so that part, I'm now learning by being inthis business school, AndreMD Business School,
learning how to be an Ultra No.
Yes.
You're trained.
You're a great doctor.
How do you run a great how do you be a great,you know, business owner?
So that's the part that there's a learningcurve that, you know, I'm I'm it's like you're
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in residency again.
Yeah.
Learning things from the very beginning, verybasics.
And so, you know, I'm encouraged that just as Iwas able to do the medicine part I can figure
out this business part too with some with somehelp with some help, for sure.
That's so true.
Yes.
And, for me, it's been a very accelerating rideand, mixing, hanging out with other
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entrepreneurs.
I've learned that it what all of the feelings Ihave is perfectly normal.
I'll tell you.
Even the most successful, you know, all theMack Zuckerberg, Stella Moss, Sam, they are all
there.
Once you're an entrepreneur, you're gonna haveto be ready to have a tick skin.
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Learn to innovate, be ready all the time,remain consistent.
You know?
So all what we're talking about
Mhmm.
The reason we went into this side, jumped ontothis side of the pond is because of all these
things going Obadan that eliminates the borderbecause, oh my gosh.
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You'll never know.
Right?
Yes.
Yes.
That they are.
And, you know, even within you, like, you'rediscovering yourself in the process.
Why?
You're developing yourself.
You're developing the business.
It's amazing.
Yes.
I mean, I'm I'm grateful that we're bothexperiencing this journey together.
Absolutely.
So that's great.
Now we know a little bit you.
Can you go ahead and share some practical tipsfor our audience as a guiding college?
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So let me tell you this story.
I mean, yeah, what well, you you tell, and thenI'll tell.
Okay.
Well, let me tell the reason there was a lady Ihad one of those days in my clinic.
So, I'm internal medicine and nephrology.
Right?
I do primary care, and I also do nephrology.
And this lady came in for some general thing.
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And during my examination, I asked it to do abreast exam.
And and this was what was happening, like, onherself.
I said, oh, do you ever do breast exams?
Can you do, like, seriously?
I mean, like, It was like she was afraid of herown body part.
Woah.
I'm like, don't you do bra you know, I was sosurprised.
You know?
And then I thought because these these arelittle things that we take for granted.
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You know, maybe I don't know if it's, webecause of our tree.
Is that your experience?
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
You know, because of our training, we arecomfortable with body parts.
It's my body part.
Isn't it?
Like
Well, there's also that I the thought of maybethere's a fear that she's gonna find something.
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Because some people have, like, family historyof things, and maybe they went through a
traumatic experience and Yeah.
Being the person to find some, that might havebeen what caused her anxiety in trying to burst
exam.
People do breast exams, but they're like, theydon't know what they're searching for.
They don't know what they're looking for.
Yeah.
All
this time, you just wanna know what's normal.
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What do your normal breasts feel like?
That way, if something changes, if something isnew, you can be like, oh, I chucked a month
ago, and this little thing wasn't there.
You know, then you can even give your doctor aheads up.
Cause your doctor sees you once a year, doesone breast exam, and that's it.
If you're doing it monthly or every every 2months, you know what normal breasts your
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normal breasts feel like, then you can quicklyfind something.
Ah, so
so so wow.
Every so that's okay.
I I I generally do my exams more frequentlythan that, but maybe, you know, I'm
And that's okay.
That's completely fine.
The the more repetition, the more repetitionthere is.
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Money get familiar with the landscape.
Yes.
More familiar with the landscape.
Yes.
The more familiar you are, the easier it is.
But, you know, ideally, we don't want youfeeling something in the breast.
You know?
We want you either, get it.
We want if we're gonna find anything abnormal,we wanna see it on mammogram because then when
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you're the earliest stage, fine.
Now this time you're feeling feeling it and itgot for benefits cancer, it's a higher stage.
If you're if the the 1 centimeter, 2centimeter, it begins to increase the stage.
Stage twos, two centimeters, and and upwardslike that.
So most of the time, we just want you to knowwhat your normal breasts feel like.
We want you to get your mammograms at 8:40.
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If there's anybody in the family with breastcancer younger than age fifty, then you might
wanna be getting your program younger than ageforty.
So if somebody got their mom, got somebody inthe family got breast cancer at 46, other women
in the family start at 30 They're not gonnawait till 40 to start doing breast mammograms.
Yeah.
So that's why family history is important.
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My patients would be saying, oh, we don't talkabout that in my family.
I'm like, you start the conversation.
Yes.
Start it.
Yeah.
Stop asking stop asking questions.
Does anybody have is there a history of ofbreast cancer in the family?
What age was this on to when she had breastcancer?
You know, that way you can get yourself screenproperly and protect it.
So it doesn't repeat itself in the family.
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So many helpful nuggets.
That's amazing.
Yes.
Is important.
Self breast exam is important.
However, it's better to make sure you'resticking with your mammograms.
Because they will detect even before the canceris palpable.
Exactly.
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Can be felt.
Popable meaning that can be felt.
Right?
And, if you have a family history of breastcancer, you may not have to wait 40, which is
this on that screening Then
it is.
Age.
You might have to do it sooner.
That's thank you.
That's, a very those are great tips.
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You know, I mean, and that that that'sdefinitely more than 3.
If you wanna give us some extra, please feelfree.
Throw some As a gynecologist, everyone's alwaysasking me, you know, what are the right soaps,
detergents, things to keep you a pH balance orpeople who are having a p vaginal discharge.
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That's probably, like, the biggest thing I seemy patients come into the office for.
Yeah.
Vaginal discharge.
And when it begins to be recurrent, you know,after sexual intercourse, after periods, you
know, or regardless of whatever activitythey're doing.
So the first thing I ask is, are you using anysentence?
So And then they're listing lavender somethingsomething from Obadan and body works, and I'm
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just, like, toss it, throw it out.
Yeah.
Something sensitive, something to it.
I know.
Yeah.
Because those things are kind of irritate, andthey even cause small problems.
Yes.
The glands, you know, they they they aresupposed to have a certain consistency.
That's correct.
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You know?
Yeah.
And that's yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So no centered
products.
I would say to wash your body and wash yourprivate parts, no scented products.
Right.
What about dental products?
Have you heard of this?
Yeah.
Oh, well, obviously, I'm familiar with theDushyin.
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Oh, And No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
I didn't I'm not pronouncing that correctly.
Yeah.
Dushi.
Yeah.
That's what I call it.
Dushi.
But is it a friend origin.
It's more in some places, it's
like Douche.
So, you know Yeah.
It's possible.
But that's what we're talking about.
The the fact, yeah, that's not recommended aswell.
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Right?
At all.
Because the vagina has an environment and abalance of bacteria.
Yeah.
And when you're duching, you're not selectivelyremoving the bad bacteria.
You're removing all bacteria.
So when you remove all bacteria, you'reremoving your good bacteria as well.
The good bacteria is called lactobacilli.
That's the good bacteria that keeps the pHObadan.
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So if you're douching and you're using allthese scented stuff to wash out the vagina,
then you're washing out the good bacteria thatcan keep your pH Obadan.
And then you're gonna keep on getting badbacteria, yeast infections, bacterial
infections, and just discomfort.
Discharged with an odor.
That's, like, one of the, most common things Itreat in my office.
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And most of the time, I don't even give themantibiotics.
I just tell them What are you using in yourhygiene that's scented?
Take it out.
Try it for a week and then come back.
And then most of the time, they're fine.
They're like, oh my I'd run away.
I'm like, yes.
Because you left the vagina alone.
That's that's such a great tip.
That's an amazing tip.
Because it's interesting.
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Yes.
Leave her
alone.
I'm trying to put all the things in there thatdon't belong there.
3.
So what what is normal?
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Because, you know, the other day, I I rememberI had to explain to one of my patients who was
concerned about some normal you know, what Idescribed felt was normal,
you
know, inconsistency.
You know, I kinda explained about how, it thetexture changes, throughout the menstrual
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cycle.
In fact, back in the day, you know, historytells us that the women were smart enough to
use.
You what's that technique?
Erica mucus.
Correct.
Yeah.
Use that.
Density of the Circular Lucas to determineeverything.
Yeah.
Know when they were fertile to know when theywere, you
know, it
is it is normal.
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To have some discharge, right, not alldischarge is pathological or correct treatment.
Correct.
So it is normal to have vaginal charge.
There it's it's a living organism.
So it has glands.
It's gonna have, some, you know, fluid comingout of it.
So you consider normal discharge is that it'snot a lot.
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It's not a lot that it's making your underwearwet and
Yeah.
By the time you start having him to wear padsYes.
Or having to switch, you know, then that's aproblem.
Correct.
Okay.
And it doesn't have an offensive order.
Now a lot of people are always like, okay.
Which order is rights?
Which order is So okay.
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Right.
Yeah.
So as long as it, you know, you're you're notstanding next to somebody that they can smell
it, then it's not a strong odor as long as it'snot fishy.
It's not fishy.
Yeah.
You know, so it's gonna have your body odor,but as long as it's not offensive, and it's
not, too strong.
I mean, you know, just think about the othergloves.
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Like, you're you're you're having
sweat glass.
Under arms.
Yeah.
Arms, they have a kinda, you know, you have a akind of smell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is not offensive.
You know?
Exactly.
And and and exercise the same thing.
Just agree with what you're talking about theglands.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Thing that they see.
The people will be telling me that there'salways something on my under.
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I'm, like, Yes.
There's something on your underwear.
Doesn't mean that there's something wrong.
It's working.
Correct.
It's working.
So the, what's normal is, it's not a lot.
It's not offensive.
It's not greenish yellow.
It's not like fancy colors.
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So either clear or either white.
Right.
Right now.
We want others colors.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So yeah.
Yeah.
And other alarm and size, I always tell mypatients, a lower abdominal pain when you have
sex, bleeding, you know, like we said, wetalked about the color should be, if it's
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abnormal bleeding outside, you period.
Okay.
Mhmm.
Mhmm.
Yeah, those are the things that should makeblurry fevers and Yeah.
Absolutely.
And people with, pain with sex, especially if,you know, when I evaluate them, what I try to
identify is, is it in one particular spot?
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Or is it in the ovaries?
Is it in the vagina?
Is it on the outside, the vulva?
Or is it when I move the uterus around?
So there's so many areas down there that helpus to figure out where is your pain coming
from.
Because some people, they're sexually activewhen they're ovulating.
When you're ovulating, you just released a anegg from your ovary.
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Your ovary is a little bit enlarged.
There's a little bit of fluid in your pelvis.
That's gonna hurt.
So I tell them, just don't be sexually trackyour periods.
Find when around the time you are within anddon't be sexually active during that time.
But there are some people that I moved theiruterus around and it reproduces the same pain
that they feel during sex, then we startworrying about infection in the uterus
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Yes.
Causing inflammatory disease
Correct.
Yeah.
Things like that.
Right.
Right.
Well, this is so good.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely.
We've learned it a lot.
We've learned it a lot.
Okay.
So let's move on now because we can we can Ican definitely talk about this all day long
women's health, women are important?
Our bodies are unique.
There are a lot of peculiarities, and wedefinitely need to keep on learning because she
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know more and more what kind of discovering newthings every day.
And, in the field, even in the field ofscience, about women's health, you
know?
Absolutely.
And and it's very interesting.
So but, you know, why don't you go ahead andshare something interesting with us that
happened to you recently or something you'velearned, that made you feel empowered.
(23:36):
You know, outside of medicine.
If if Really?
Outside of medicine.
Girl, what doctor or what can be other thingstoo?
This is true.
This is true.
I think it's what you said actually about theyou're learning more about yourself as as an
when you become an entrepreneur.
Because there are so many moving parts andyou're trying to decide, okay.
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What am I good at?
Like, one of the things I always tell peoplewhen they're asking me do I know what I wanna
be in life?
I'm like, what are you good at?
And so when, you know, being an entrepreneur,you know, you're having all these feelings.
You're like, am I really good at this?
You're having all these doubts.
You're having all these questions.
And then you meet other people who areentrepreneurs and realize that they're having
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the same questions, whether they have a smallbusiness, whether they have a large business,
they're having the same doubts.
They're having the same feelings that you'refeeling.
So it, like, okay.
I am I'm normal, just like you said.
Yeah.
I mean, and and we're so kind of physician's,you know, a plus plus personality, high
achievas, like, fun with the golden spoon.
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What's hot?
Always get into entrepreneurship.
Everything is not
just Do you mind us?
I know.
Yes.
They wake up on 1 and it's d f.
What a f from me?
Oh, look at you, see?
You're so you're so hot.
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You can't you can't die, right, forget theYeah.
It it has to be a c minus to be, like, whatabout the
If it's an ad, there's no points.
Right.
You know?
And, yeah, and you hear I've heard them callthemselves We call ourselves.
I don't use the word imposter syndrome myself.
(25:30):
You know, but I've heard this, suffering fromimposter syndrome.
I have this 1 and that one.
I'm like, oh, really?
What did you just have interpret?
No syndrome?
I mean, if all these people I'm going throughall these things like this multi billionaires
ultra, rich ultra successful.
Why are you not to go through it?
But, you know, if you don't go through it, thenit's I
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mean, are you truly an entrepreneur?
Yeah.
So it's interesting you mentioned that impostersyndrome because I did when I went to the, the
conference, the business school conference,and, I that was what I realized about myself
that I hadn't labeled it.
But that's actually where I was.
I wasn't identifying as the boss, the CEO.
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I was still identifying as just the doctor.
You know?
And so the part of being a business owner iscoming out as the boss, acting like the boss,
showing up as the boss, delegating as the boss,I'll be trying to do things myself.
Like, I don't wanna bother the people I hired.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Exactly.
Telling you.
So I I you know, I had to backtrack.
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So that's sort of one of the things that Irealized, and it was good to know that other
people had fell that way.
Other people who are doing big things also feltalways.
So I I felt less out of place.
You know, like you said, high achiever, a plusalways to now be in a space where I'm not, you
know, I don't, you know, I'm having secondthoughts.
(26:56):
I'm doubting.
I used to be like, yes.
I know what I wanna do.
And now I'm like, Am I sure?
Is this the right step?
So it's a new space, but it's good to it's goodto connect with people who feel the same way
and who have been successful.
That empowers me that, okay.
I'm just going through what an entrepreneurgoes through, and the end is success.
(27:17):
So that has mean, the last
last Let's go ahead and treat, mark the termentrepreneur syndrome.
We're going through the entrepreneurship, aweb, a different nursing room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The
whole Absolutely.
Well, this has been wonderful.
Thank ahead of your time.
Keep our conversations not too long.
(27:40):
So before we leave, Can you, we know you're inIllinois, but how can we, how if anybody wants
to work with you, how can
we find you?
Absolutely.
Thank you.
So the name of my practice is Dad DurduraGynecology, d a r d u r, gynecology.
So diodomemedical.com is my website.
(28:01):
There's a contact us form there.
I'm on Instagram, Diodome Medical Group.
I'm on Facebook.
At organicology.
I'm on YouTube.
I think I'm on TikTok now too.
So another platform possible.
And I've watched some of your videos.
They are very educational, and they're veryentertaining.
(28:22):
They're really nice.
So Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate the feedback.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for joining us today.
Hi, everyone.
It's Doctor Didi from younger self MD MedicalClinic Health And Wellness located in Kennesaw,
Georgia.
We're currently accepting patients for primarycare and nephrology.
(28:46):
If you know anyone who might benefit fromdiabetes, care, high blood pressure care, and
we do obesity, weight loss management, give usa call.
On 4045664623.
And our website is youngercellmd.com.
(29:07):
So, yeah, you could always book an appointmentthere as well.
This was so good.
We were so
I love that.
I love that.
Younger self MD.
I love that.
Yes, Linda.
In the next episode that we have, I'm gonnacall you back for part 2.
I'll tell you more a little bit about how thename came about.
Yeah.
I'm I'm interested.
I'm curious.
(29:28):
Time.
Yes.
Alright.
Well, thank you.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
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