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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's seven h o FM and BO this morning. Now,
this morning we've been joined by Mark Callahan, who's a
chief judge and Managing director of the Wine Network consulting
for the snap Printing Royal Hobart Wine Show, which is
all big part of the Royal Agricultural Society of Tasmania.
We've just had the winners announced, but Mark, thanks very
much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thanks by my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We've also got Jeremy Deneen with us, who is the
Royal Hobart Wine Show Committee Chair. And you've also been
a chief winemaker and general manager at Joseph Cromey Wines,
and you also have your own wines that you don't
enter into the competitions because that right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Correct, Like I think, while you're involved in a show,
even if you actually are arm's length, it's still a
potential perception of conflict of interest. So I make sure
I don't enter anything that I'm involved in.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Does that mean you have to wait until you have
the opportunity to do things in other states?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, So if you look around the country, there's probably
you know, give or take nearly one hundred wine shows
in the country, so you can ender wines all over
the place.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This one we've got has got entries from all over Australia.
Is that right, correc Is it hard to get people
to enter into that or is it something that the
entry has just come flooding into.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I wouldn't say the entries come flooding in. But we've
got I think a show that's got a fifty year history,
We've got an incredible team of judges led by Mark,
and we've got I think some pretty good prizes and
incentives for people to actually come and enter, particularly for
the winery that wins the best pino noir or the
(01:26):
best sparkling of show.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now, there is a lot of different categories or varietals
that you guys deal with. Mark, does it take you
a long time to sort of sit through and learn
a lot about the wines before you go ahead and
start judging.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Not so much study before any particular show, but it
does take time to sort of develop as a young
junior judge and sort of prove to the community that
you've experienced enough as a judge to be able to
move from a class of reasonings in the morning and
then go straight from that into a class of cabinets
and be able to understand recognize excellence in both of those.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Now the people that enter, do you find that there's
a large variety of people, because I know that sometimes
when people talk about wine they say it's one of
those beautiful industries that's got so much going on. But
every now and then people do mention. Whenever you get
into specifics of anything, there's a certain amount of wank
that goes along with this. Is that something that you
guys know, I've.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Never encountered it in there, I'm walking out.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We just drowned the wink with chardon'.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
They well, that's a great way to start, I guess.
And what got you guys interested in wine? Before we
get onto how wine shows and awards and things work,
what got you guys interested?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, for me, it was mostly sort of drinking through
my grandfather's seller when I was young.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, right? And were you of legal age at this
stage or was this on the.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Sly could neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And how about yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Much? My beginning wasn't particularly polish, I often describe it.
I began as a UNI student, so I was at
the abuse end of the market.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Right, So can you tell me what the best boxed
wine is these days.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well whatever was the cheapest, no about it. But moving
on from there. I got my first introduction to fine
wine a few years later was actually a made of
mine who was one of the judges here. He got
into wine a little ahead of me. It sounded interesting.
I started trying to learn a bit more, and yeah,
through that got to taste some really some what I
(03:20):
now realized is some really excellent wine that was really
open your mind up to it, and there are those
moments where you go, oh, my goodness, and now I
see what all the fuss is about. You get those
moments where you go, oh, hang on, I need to
find out more about this.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
An interesting thing with that, you find a lot of
people have those kind of experiences with food, and people
are comfortable with experimenting with food and traveling far and
wide for restaurants and so on. But people find wine
a bit more intimidating. But wine is possibly even more
varied than food, and you can find exactly the same reward, well,
(03:52):
in my opinion, even better.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah. Well, it's a big and a scary world when
you realize that you've just opened the door to something
with so many facets we'll talk a few more of
those shortly with Mark O'Callahan and Jeremy Deneen from the
Hobart Wine Show.
It's seven h o FM and BO this morning. Now,
this morning we've been joined by Mark Callahan, who's a
chief judge and Managing director of the Wine Network consulting
for the snap Printing Royal Hobart Wine Show, which is
all big part of the Royal Agricultural Society of Tasmania.
We've just had the winners announced, but Mark, thanks very
much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thanks by my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We've also got Jeremy Deneen with us, who is the
Royal Hobart Wine Show Committee Chair. And you've also been
a chief winemaker and general manager at Joseph Cromey Wines,
and you also have your own wines that you don't
enter into the competitions because that right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Correct, Like I think, while you're involved in a show,
even if you actually are arm's length, it's still a
potential perception of conflict of interest. So I make sure
I don't enter anything that I'm involved in.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Does that mean you have to wait until you have
the opportunity to do things in other states?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, So if you look around the country, there's probably
you know, give or take nearly one hundred wine shows
in the country, so you can ender wines all over
the place.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This one we've got has got entries from all over Australia.
Is that right, correc Is it hard to get people
to enter into that or is it something that the
entry has just come flooding into.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I wouldn't say the entries come flooding in. But we've
got I think a show that's got a fifty year history,
We've got an incredible team of judges led by Mark,
and we've got I think some pretty good prizes and
incentives for people to actually come and enter, particularly for
the winery that wins the best pino noir or the
(01:26):
best sparkling of show.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now, there is a lot of different categories or varietals
that you guys deal with. Mark, does it take you
a long time to sort of sit through and learn
a lot about the wines before you go ahead and
start judging.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Not so much study before any particular show, but it
does take time to sort of develop as a young
junior judge and sort of prove to the community that
you've experienced enough as a judge to be able to
move from a class of reasonings in the morning and
then go straight from that into a class of cabinets
and be able to understand recognize excellence in both of those.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Now the people that enter, do you find that there's
a large variety of people, because I know that sometimes
when people talk about wine they say it's one of
those beautiful industries that's got so much going on. But
every now and then people do mention. Whenever you get
into specifics of anything, there's a certain amount of wank
that goes along with this. Is that something that you
guys know, I've.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Never encountered it in there, I'm walking out.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We just drowned the wink with chardon'.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
They well, that's a great way to start, I guess.
And what got you guys interested in wine? Before we
get onto how wine shows and awards and things work,
what got you guys interested?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, for me, it was mostly sort of drinking through
my grandfather's seller when I was young.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, right? And were you of legal age at this
stage or was this on the.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Sly could neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And how about yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Much? My beginning wasn't particularly polish, I often describe it.
I began as a UNI student, so I was at
the abuse end of the market.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Right, So can you tell me what the best boxed
wine is these days.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well whatever was the cheapest, no about it. But moving
on from there. I got my first introduction to fine
wine a few years later was actually a made of
mine who was one of the judges here. He got
into wine a little ahead of me. It sounded interesting.
I started trying to learn a bit more, and yeah,
through that got to taste some really some what I
(03:20):
now realized is some really excellent wine that was really
open your mind up to it, and there are those
moments where you go, oh, my goodness, and now I
see what all the fuss is about. You get those
moments where you go, oh, hang on, I need to
find out more about this.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
An interesting thing with that, you find a lot of
people have those kind of experiences with food, and people
are comfortable with experimenting with food and traveling far and
wide for restaurants and so on. But people find wine
a bit more intimidating. But wine is possibly even more
varied than food, and you can find exactly the same reward, well,
(03:52):
in my opinion, even better.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah. Well, it's a big and a scary world when
you realize that you've just opened the door to something
with so many facets we'll talk a few more of
those shortly with Mark O'Callahan and Jeremy Deneen from the
Hobart Wine Show.
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