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What does it take to stay true to your unique sound in a world that often pushes conformity? Meet AJay, a talented young artist who’s been crafting his own musical path since 13. We hear from AJay himself about how he turned his passion into a safe haven and his upcoming project, "Make It Last Longer." From mastering cameras to vocals, AJ shares how he learned every facet of music production, while simultaneously building his audience on platforms like Instagram and YouTube.

Our conversation takes an intriguing turn as we explore the parallels between music and sports, two worlds where perseverance and risk-taking are key. Through personal stories of creating a YouTube series in Vegas and basketball adventures, we uncover the trials of pursuing dreams and the necessity of a solid support system. The discipline required in both spheres is daunting, with the odds of making it professionally in music or basketball being slim. Maturity and self-awareness emerge as vital to personal and professional growth, urging everyone to have a backup plan and trust their instincts.

Relationships and family dynamics add another layer to our engaging discussion. As adulthood reshapes our social circles, we ponder the significance of true, lasting friendships and the impact of adult responsibilities on family bonds. A lively debate-style game, "Your Opinion Doesn't Matter," spices things up, encouraging diverse opinions on hot-button topics like hiring songwriters for rap. AJay wraps up with wisdom on embracing change and trusting the process, reminding us that positivity and the right timing can unlock unexpected opportunities. Join us and celebrate AJay’s dedication and passion as he stands on the brink of stardom.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Welcome to the your OpinionDoesn't Matter podcast.
I am the host, mr Lamont.
I'm here.
I got a special guest.
Yes, yes yes.
A special guest.
He's more than a guest he's myfamily.
Big fan, big fan, I mean listen, this is not an illusion here.
The height is definitely.
You can see it.
I am shorter than him.

(00:20):
I am shorter than him.
This is my cousin, my youngercousin.
It in him, I am short in him.
This is my cousin, my, myyounger cousin, type, yeah, and
he's a and he's an artist.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
His name is aaron.
What's your?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
artist name.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
They call me aj, just like that they call me aj
though, okay, okay, okay, that'swhat's up.
That's what's up.
Yeah, how are you doing?
You can never complain.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, just never, nocomplaints, ever life treating
me well right right nice to hearman.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Nice to hear, nice to see you, man and um.
I seen you be putting inputting that work on um with
your music.
Yeah, from your um.
The sound from the videos, yeah, concepts.
I'm like whoa, where's hegetting that from?
He's watching the tikt manual.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Everything usually comes from YouTube and stuff
like that, but that's all me.
I taught myself cameras, Itaught myself microphones.
You know just every aspect ofit.
I just like learning.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You like learning, that's what's up.
That's what's up About how longyou been rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I was rapping since 13,.
To be honest, I was just, youknow, timid about it because you
know I'm not good and stufflike that.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Right right, right, right, right, yeah, to be honest
, 13, that's.
I ain't going to say that's along time, because you I'm about
there now.
I'm getting up there, you upthere, you up there, you up
there you up there.
That's one thing.
That's one thing is, when it'sin, you pause.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
No, ditty man.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, ditty, but the love for it.
The love for it, I mean, Icould tell, because you didn't
stop.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's how I knew it was real for me, because it's
always been my safe space.
Even if I did a bad track, Istill feel inspired to try to
come back and do somethingbetter or something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So you're saying that you do it and you bounce right
back, right, like you never left.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, it's really like I don't know.
I'm just, I gravitate towardsmusic.
It's my safe zone Right, Right.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
How do you see music today Like what's your?
Where can you fit?
What category would you be?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
in.
That's funny because I asked alot of people that like who I
sound like, who I sound like.
They all give me the sameanswer like no one.
Like I just got my own lane andI at first that was you know it
.
It kind of put me down becauseit felt like I didn't have a
place in the industry, but atthe same time, like I flipped it
and it's like everybody like it, so I just kept going in my own

(02:41):
lane and that's that's what I'mhere.
I'm not even running, no more,I'm ready oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
So, um, how close are you to actually stardom, like
um, who's been checking for youand where you've been?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know you're in vegas right now well, I'm see
there's been a lot of ups anddowns.
People don't understand this.
When it comes to music,industry is going to be a lot of
ups and downs.
You could be right there thenright back there.
I've I've been in contact witha lot of people before, but like
I don't like to name drop, Iwant to make this on my own.
You get what I'm trying to say,like this is going to be all me

(03:13):
.
So just whenever y'all y'allsee me going around, that's when
I pop, that's, that's, that'sit there's no real lane.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You call yourself, you know you're not.
You're definitely not a drillrapper.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Definitely not.
I like to talk to ladies.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, you're more like a.
Let me see, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
See, you're like an.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
R&B swing.
Yeah, I don't know if you domore harmonizing.
Do you consider what you doharmonizing or do you consider
it singing Harmonizing?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Definitely 100%.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, I had to, you know, teach myself vocals and
stuff like that, but it's stilla work in progress.
I like the whole journey, manLike.
I learn new things about how tomess with my vocals and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right, right, that's good, that's good.
That's the good thing aboutmusic, man, even though you
could change with the time.
But if you hold the course withsomething that you figured out,
a style that's yours, you won'tbend.
You just keep going until yourtime is right.
And then I see, you're going tokeep going and your time is
going to come.
Your time is going to come.
And what outlets do you like?

(04:22):
Where do you put your music?
Where do you have your musicnow?
Like I know, you had a lot ofprojects.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
How many projects you have so I kind of took all of
those off and I'm like trying tolike start fresh.
So right now, no projects.
I'm about to drop a projectsoon um, it's gonna be called
make it last longer and someright, and that's just.
Yeah, just some things that Iwent through in the past.
I'll be dropping that shortly,but I drop music on Instagram,

(04:47):
youtube, everything under there.
Call me AJ.
You know what I mean.
Right now I'm working on mysite, which will be up, where
I'm going to drop this nextproject on.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm going to do my own way.
No streaming platforms.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm trying to find my own way.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Like okay, get to the people directly, Directly
straight to my site.
Direct mail Go straight to them.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
So about how much songs is going to be on there?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So right now I'm at seven, but I got an eighth.
That's just peaking in thereright now.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Nice, nice nice Yo, man, if you need me on a bar you
know, yeah, yo man, if you needme on a ball.
Nah man, let me hear something.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I got two balls boom bam.
I might need that for like anintro or something.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah.
So I'm happy for you.
You know I'm happy for you.
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You didn't stop.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
You kept going.
You never know if it's gonna goin If you don't take the shot.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, who's looking, too?
On top of that.
You never know who's watchingyou don't.
If it's going to go in if youdon't take the shot, well, who's
looking, too?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
on top of that you never know who's watching you
don't know who's watching yeah,you don't know who's watching
man and you could be inspiringpeople in some form or fashion,
Even if it's not like, say youdon't want to go mainstream.
As long as your music has amessage, you could touch a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I used to go I don't know if you remember I
used to do like a show Hot orNot on YouTube and I was going
around Vegas having peoplelisten to my music and I had a
lot of like young dudes run upto me and tell me that, like in
person, like yo, you inspiringus to like get off our butts and
come out here and put in thework actually, so, like you just
saying that reminded me of thathow come you stopped?

(06:22):
Um, it was more, because Iliterally do everything alone.
I can't hold a camera and walkand entertain, and you know what
I mean.
So I edit everything by myself.
I do just every aspect of itall.
So it's finding the cameraman,especially moving out to vegas.
You know what I mean, likegetting connected with the right
people right, it matters.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, the right people matters, man, trust me,
connected with the right people.
Right, it matters.
The right people matters, man,trust me in life.
The right people matters, man,cause um, it's like I call it
the um algorithm.
Yeah, you gotta have adifferent, you gotta have an
algorithm of life, and that'strue.
And it's true indeed that yougotta be around certain things
for you, like, as a flower, togrow.
Yeah, like the proper water,the proper sunlight.
You know what I mean.

(07:06):
Not water with beer and liquorin it.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
mean Basically yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, To stifle your
growth.
You know what I mean youwouldn't be 6'8, right now.
You would have been 5'2.
Imagine, imagine me, you wouldhave been 5'2 when you was 5.
Hey yo, when he was 15, he was6'7.

(07:29):
It was about here, no cap.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, that was about right, I was trash and bold.
Tell them he was a hothead.
That's what it was.
I didn't like listening.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
No, listen, listen, we talking about authority.
He don't go for it.
Whatever you selling he ain'tbuying it.
Yo listen under no circumstancewhat you said.
What, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
In his mind, right quick.
He processed it like if you'redisrespecting him.
What did you mean?
What did you mean by that?

(08:01):
Then it's on, then it's on.
But you know, we had a lot offun, though.
We had a lot of fun.
You traveled, you know, topursue basketball Because of you
.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yes, thank you a lot, you went to Cali.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
You went to what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was in Florida and even when I was out there
remember I was going around Iwas in Colorado.
Yeah, yeah, you was on thecircuit, you was on the circuit.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Did any of those guys that you was with any of them
go pro anybody?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Nah, I watched them.
I seen a couple of them gooverseas and stuff like that.
Shout out a few Jeff, amazon,akeem, austin, like they went
overseas and stuff like that.
It was putting in some work.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Other than that, nah, no, no, nba, because you know
they say the numbers.
I was hearing the numbers for,like, say, for basketball
players in high school.
It's like say, out of 100, theysaid only 10% make high school
teams, that's real Now college5% of the total population in

(09:01):
school NBA what's the number?
You think I think it.
Things like one we down to one1% yeah 1%, 1% man, and it's
like it's always good, like thepeople out there, children, you
know it's don't put all youreggs in one basket.
My cousin was always smart, healways.
He never just stuck with, henever just stuck with just

(09:23):
basketball, he was always doingmusic.
So it's always to have a backupplan or even have something
else at the front plan andbackspin Tight, yeah, because it
not let you ready.
You got to have your head puton strong.
Yeah, actually, I'm going to dothis, I'm going to do this.
But sports in general, it's thesame thing with music.

(09:44):
You got to keep your head on.
You got to Discipline.
Yeah, it's a hard bodydiscipline.
Yeah, it's not made for theweak.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
The thing about music .
Though no one told me what todo, I told myself.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right, right right.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
No, but no, funny.
Just you get older you realize.
Oh, like you know what I mean,you have your aha moments.
So you just got to listen andthat's about it.
You got to have a trust.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right, but then also there's a flip side to that.
There's also a flip side tothat that even if, say, you did
listen, listening to me,wouldn't have gave you the skill
, did listen, yeah, listening tome wouldn't have gave you the
skill you would have to have theskill, you would have to
develop the skill because Icouldn't.
I could tell you where to go,but how you get there, you
understand.
It's like how you gonna, how doyou do it?
It's like you could have thebest coach in the world, but

(10:37):
it's how you play it, how you do, how you digest it.
Even if you listen, don't be,don't, you don't even want to
digest in part.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I don't want you to look at it as if you listen
don't even want to look at it.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So it's a digesting part.
I don't want you to look at it,as if you would have listened,
you would have made it, it justdidn't happen.
Don't say that Because you know.
I feel like that's a, that's anunderlined this bro Huh, that's
an underlined this you justlike In life, you got to realize
like it's not about what youdidn't do, it's what you did.
You understand there's peoplethat actually listen and try

(11:05):
hard.
It don't make no difference.
It don't make a difference.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's like they say you pretty up something.
If it is what it is, youunderstand.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I know what you mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like put lipstick on a pig.
Yeah, it's still a pig, it'sstill a pig, still a pig.
You understand.
So in life, it's about what youdo and what you put into it.
It's more than what thetraining training is.
It's about what you do yourself, the hard work you put in for
yourself life panned out.
You were healthy.
I ain't gonna say young mananymore that's messed up, bro

(11:38):
yeah, you are young man.
Yeah, you don't got no kids yetnah I'm he's stuttering, he's
stuttering.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm, I'm.
He's saying like it's a badthing yo listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Your sister got a kid , that's, she's about to go to
high school next year.
No, she in high school she inhigh school, now sophomore bro
your brother got kids, you know,you know, and, um, he has three
.
Right, your brother got kids,you know, and he has three right
, he has three or two.
He got two, two, two kids.
And you know, I mean, when it'sperfect time, perfect time, I
can't talk.
I just had my first kid.

(12:13):
Yeah, congrats, bro.
You know she's six years old.
How'd that go?
Oh, it's going good, it's goinggood, man, yeah, yeah, daddy,
daddy, daddy, daddy, life isdifferent, huh.
Daddy.
Life is definitely different,man.
It's a fun thing.
You start to realize the thingsthat's more important in life.
You know it's fun things that'smore important than you and you
got to.
You know you can't be selfish,no more.

(12:35):
Yeah, it's about your family.
You're going to put your familyfirst and you're going to do
what you got to do for yourfamily.
I feel that.
So that's the thing about youhave a different direction,
different goals.
Now Like, oh, I definitely gotto get it now, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
There's no out here.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, you can't be like.
Oh man, I want to dibble anddabble with this, but hey, that
might not make me money rightnow, but I'm going to try.
No, you're going to be like.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't do it.
You got to do certain things.
I know what you mean, like forsure things for sure things, for
sure things, alright.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I want to hear what are for sure things you're
going to do with this music.
What are you going to do to dotthe I's and cross the?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
T's this time, what you going to do.
I'm going.
So my main thing, I'm going tohear me.
They're going to understand.
People are going to relate tome.
My music is relatable, it'scatchy, it's.
You know what I mean.
People see me like people in mylife.

(13:33):
They see me as a confident,cocky person.
I walk around 6'8" handsome,can't complain, but at the same
time they don't know.
I'm insecure.
I'm insecure about my music attimes and I came out of that
dark place and realized Effort,yeah, you get what I'm talking
about.
Yeah, man, like just nah,everybody keep telling me I'm
nice, so I'm nice.

(13:53):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Because you know the thing about music is, when you
say it's relative, like whoeverwould think anything negative of
you you got would thinkanything negative of you, you
gotta say can they?
Not to them?
You don't say it, but in yourmind you gotta be like can you
do it technically?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
yeah, can you do?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
it you could.
That's the thing.
It's harsh for people to havesome some harsh words about
music.
That music is art.
You know what I'm saying?
They can't say that's trash,it's not your cup of tea.
Yeah, you can't say it's trash,not unless you do music and you
think you can do it better.
True, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so that's.

(14:29):
You know, you're dotting theI's and crossing the T's, man,
and I want you to keep pushing,pushing, pushing, man.
Yeah, but so what are you doingdifferent this time?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
This time I'm taking my time, I'm not rushing, I'm
not putting too much informationout there before it's actually
ready.
You get what I'm saying.
I'm just pacing myself, takingmy time.
I've done years of studying andI'm putting all of that to use
right now, if it makes senseRight, right, right, right,
right, right, right.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Man, I know you're going to do well.
Well, thank you.
You're going to knock him out,man, you're going to knock him
out.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is it for me.
That's how I feel.
I feel like everybody's goingto know they call me AJ.
After this, after I drop this,to be honest.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right, right, right, right, right right.
You're going to do it.
You're going to do the ball outthe park, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
So what else is going on in life with you, man?
How is everything else, howeverything else is holding up?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, definitely can't complain, like I just be
working music, working music anddealing with Nevada heat.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So yeah, dude, you hot, man, hot.
Did we have some little, themlittle creatures?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
them Geico's be walking the streets over there.
I know it was so bad.
Maybe there was some Geico'sout there walking around and
shit, trying to sell youinsurance them little Geico's a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
They were like shit, because I know it's hot.
You been out there yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I've been to.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I went there for my birthday in July.
Oh, you did a July trip.
You know, the hotel I was inwas AC.
As soon as I stepped out I feltthat heat.
I walked up a little bit likefrom here to like oh no, I'm
going back in.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's not worth it.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I was going to walk up to a couple other hotels
.
I said no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no.
I said no, no, mas, no mas nomas no, mas I feel that yeah,
man that's crazy, nah.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But yeah, it's been fun out there.
I can't even complain.
Man like to be honest, eveneven when I go to work.
It's just vibes, it's alldifferent types of people, it's
not one set, you know, of peopleit's not one set.
You know right of people, vegasis like a home of many.
Right you got cali atl.
New york is so everybody comethere, meet up and they try and

(16:51):
get to a goal yeah simple nice,nice, nice, a good vibe, a good
vibe, good vibe, good vibe man.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
You know, um, let's, you know, let's talk about
family.
Let's talk about familystructure, man, like how things
are with family.
That you could be with familyfrom when you was young, yeah,
and then when you get older, youain't with them.
Friends too.
You outgrew this shit out ofyour friends Like nigga, I'm

(17:23):
gone, I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's how it goes.
It's left and right.
So me I'm just an introvert, soI go and speak on my path.
I just like being alone, man,it's just like I'm comfortable
with myself.
A lot of people aren't and yeah, I have this skill.
You know we fam, so you knowhow my mom is Like.
They're extroverts, so I'm goodat being it.
I just like to be by myself.

(17:45):
And the old dog guy.
I realized I didn't have todeal with the extra drama, so it
was easy to just you know what.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I mean Right, it's like I didn't lose a step with
y'all.
Like, as far as us as family,we didn't hang out that much
because you moved out, that muchbecause you moved, but we was
always close because I wasthinking right and I was
thinking about um, certainthings like um for us, with
family and friends and stufflike that.
It's like people say your dayones, right, it's like you, you,

(18:13):
you the day one, stuff isplayed out.
I agree it's played out becausethese people that you knew when
you was day one, all of us wasgetting taken care of by our
parents.
We had no bills, we had nothing.
They already say, like thefortitude of who you are, it
don't come from supporting ofyour family, it comes from the
supporting of the actual peoplesthat you're around.

(18:34):
But, like, the people I'maround for the last 35 years,
day in and day out, wasn't theguys that I grew up with.
Like I can't even say what Imean by grew up with when I was
a kid.
Once I start having bills, myalgorithm changed.
My algorithm changed, youunderstand.
But I still would see some of myhomies, but they didn't party

(18:57):
with me, we didn't travel, wewasn't dealing with girls
together.
It wasn't even that I didn'thave no.
Only memories I have with themis running around throwing rocks
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Type joint like that yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So I mean, you know sometimes, sometimes you outgrow
, you outgrow people, man, yougot to though.
You outgrow people because yourmemories of just throwing rocks
and stuff we didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
We didn't break no bread, we didn't do nothing,
nothing serious, to be honest,nothing you got to, though you
got to cut ties but sometimespeople hold you to.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
This ain't gonna say what people hold you to, but
that you you find yourself in aposition when you trying to
honor something that ain't there.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No more man do you get what I'm saying like?
I feel like friends can be morefamily at sometimes in life,
depending on your path or whatyou're doing oh yeah, no, no, no
, no something.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, I feel like telling.
When I argue with my oldestbrother, I'll be arguing myself.
I got my homies that have moreblack brothers than me, yeah,
and he said I don't even sayit's my day ones, it's like my
homies now that I've beenhanging away for 35 years.
These are my, these are my guys.
You understand.
I'm saying these are my guys.
I mean, you know what I mean.
I have more memories now withthem than these guys that I have

(20:04):
from the past.
I'm just saying, like peoplethis day, one crap is just it's
nothing Played out.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I got you it's not it .

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, it's not it.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's about when you mature and you become a man.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's when your day ones, when you start looking to
make money Paying bills like yousaid yeah and they'd be like,
oh okay, oh, let me get you thisjob, or something like that.
I learned a lot as you get older.
You're still learning stuff,man, and you're hearing people,
but you gotta be like, yeah,listen, you gotta establish
boundaries, and stuff like thatI do.
I could regret not stayingclose with a lot of family and

(20:41):
the thing about our family itwas turmoil Turmoil that got the
cousins not really.
It was the adult turmoil thatgot the cousins not rocking with
each other really and ourfamily we already got a small
family and me getting back tothe point about family, did the
other two co-hosts what they got?

(21:02):
A huge family.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I swear.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Probably in Brooklyn alone, I think they got more
than 50 of them, I think.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm not even sure.
I always felt like my familywas big, because y'all always
show that type of love that makeit feel big.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
You get what I'm saying, yeah but listen, pause,
pause.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
No kidding.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
You caught me, yeah, but I said over 50 in Brooklyn.
But you know one thing is youknow I got the game.
Your opinion doesn't matter.
Yeah, that's the name of thepodcast.
Your opinion doesn't matter.
It's a constantthought-provoking,
debate-formatted game, man.
It's great for family andfriends.
And you know why it was created?
Because I like hearingconversations as long as I'm not

(21:43):
on as long as it's not Directedat you.
The abuse is not coming thisway.
I don't tolerate those type ofconversations.
But like, say, there's a debateabout, oh yeah, who got the
best pizza or the best what'sthe name of it Best roti, I

(22:03):
would listen.
It's through the years I'mhearing different who got the
best this, who got the best thatI'm listening.
I'd be like, wow, I'd be amazed, man, this is how you feel.
So then I'm like how are youarguing about something that
it's your opinion Basically?
So that's when I came up withthe game.
Your opinion doesn't matter.
Your opinion doesn't matter.
It's not like taking away fromwho you are, but it's to let you

(22:26):
know that listen, there's otheropinions out there, there's
facts.
Yeah, so it's not only youropinion.
You understand.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It doesn't matter what you like.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean, it matters to you.
You know it matters to you,that's how far it should go.
It matters to you, yeah, that'show far it should go.
You shouldn't be like oh, no,yo, no, no, no, it matters to me
, and then say no more Type jerk, but they'll go hard.
They'll go hard.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They'll go hard, man.
What's some of the questionsthat pop up in the game I
created?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
a game it's called.
Your Opinion Doesn't Matter.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's a constant, thought-provoking,
debate-formatted game.
It's great for family andfriends.
If you want to know the truthabout somebody, you play this
game.
It has topics like socialmatters, sex and lies, politics,
sports, entertainment, the ismsand this one special one it's

(23:21):
called for it or against it.
Now, the for it or against it.
Card has a die with it.
The for it or against it.
Die either has a for it oragainst it.
Card has a die with it.
The for it or against it.
Die either has a for it oragainst it.
So now say the topic which is?
This?
So happens, the topic is for itor against it.
A woman president.
So now this is how it goes.
Now say you challenge somebody.
Say I would challenge him.

(23:42):
And now, if I roll the dicefirst, whoever's turning this,
whoever made the challenge, hasto roll the dice first.
You roll the dice first.
Whoever's turning this, whoevermade the challenge, has to roll
the dice first.
You roll the dice.
Now, if I land on against it, Igot to argue the position
against it.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh, even if your real belief stands for it, you still
got to just.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
If it's contrary to what you believe.
You still got to argue the caseand you got 30 seconds.
You got 30 seconds to reallymake your case.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Bet Throw this one out right now.
You got 30 seconds to reallymake your case right.
Throw this one out right now.
Woman president, that's apopular one.
What a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You got yes, you got 30 seconds.
Woman president, I'm against it, you're for it, I go first.
All right, right, 30 secondsReady.
Hey people out there, you behonest, say who wins.
Even though he got time tothink right now, no, I'm not
even thinking All right ready,I'm listening.

(24:31):
You know why I'm against a womanpresident, camila.
I mean, this is the perfecttiming for this.
A woman president.
You know, let me deal withemotion.
They can laugh with you andwhen inside they thinking about
I'm going to pull a blade outand cut your throat in a sec,
don't cancel him.
Please Don't cancel him.
But no, I don't know.

(24:53):
I'm not too sure.
I don't know if a woman isready to take the lead and
actually become a president.
I'm not too sure.
I mean, women can feel they cando everything, but I'm not too
sure about that.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So we should have a woman president, I believe,
because we're America, thegreatest country in the world.
We want to give, we promoteequality.
You know everybody's involved,so I guess we kind of on the
same side.
I'm just making a point of youknow what I mean.
You got me, you got me.
That's good.

(25:25):
I like this bro.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So now we actually doing some speed rounds for
y'all folks to let you get anunderstanding how the game is
played.
The topic is entertainment.
The question is is it okay tohire someone to write your raps?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, simple it's done.
You can flip it back.
No, it's never okay for anybodyto write your rap.
Singing is different, but rap,the words is your talent, the
flow is your talent.
No one can ever write your raps, point blank, period.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I don't need no more time for that, yeah but you see,
you got to make a compellingcase.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
That is a compelling case.
I said singing is your talent.
When it comes to rap, it's yourwords and your flows that makes
you your talent.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Okay, okay, you got a little more time.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Your voice is Okay.
Okay, some people got a goodvoice, but they not saying
nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, is it okay to have, is it okay to hire someone
to write your raps?
I say, say, why not, why not?
But it's about where you wantto go, get the money, where you
want to be looked at as beingjudged and you're going to be a
basement rapper forever.
So I could write you some hotbars and your bars is not really

(26:35):
it what you going to do.
The struggle is real.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm asking a question .

Speaker 1 (26:41):
So it's okay for somebody to write somebody's
Sing Right.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
So what's the difference between rapping and
that Because the person who'ssinging their talent is their
vocals.
When you're rapping, like yourtalent is your story.
Whatever you're saying, yourwords, your flow, like how you,
how you responding to the beatright, that's the talent.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
But your words, your words is your words.
That talent is how you respondto the beat, how you get on the
beat.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
That's what it says.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Right, I'm agreeing with you, and the same thing
goes with singing.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
With singing, it's like you can hear their passion
through their vocals.
I feel like singing is a veryunique talent, because if you
can bring out emotion out ofsomebody else's story, that
means a lot coming from yourvocal cords, if you think about
that.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
But at the same time there's a lot of great singers
but they don't have no goodsongs.
There's a lot of people thatyou see singing karaoke.
They real good, but maybe ifthey had a writer.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's what I'm trying to say.
You got to understand.
A lot of singers don't evenknow how to write.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Right, so that's why you need a writer For singers.
There's a lot of people who rap, who tries to rap.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Just give me the guy who wrote your raps.
I'll listen to him.
I don't need to listen to youif that's the case when it comes
to rap.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Okay, well, I don't know, sometimes to me I think
people need it, sometimes to meI think people need help.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
You think Drake write his own raps?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Listen, but at the end of the day, look at the
people.
Who's calling him out by notwriting his raps?
But think about it he's goingto the bank, man.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Bank.
He's going to the bank, you areright.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
He's making probably a million a month he's not
listening to.
Oh, I can't write these raps,but listen, I can surely cash
this.
Check True, what you'd ratherbe.
You'd rather be one of thoserappers that you'd rather be
looking at, those oh man, lookat that beautiful pony in the
window type of rapper looking atit like I wish I can.

(28:45):
I wish I can.
Or you'd be like okay, I wantto get to this money.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I want to get to the money.
But rap I'll do it with.
That's what I said.
I'll do it with singing raps.
I just can't do it.
That's me.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like that's just.
But if you could take somebodywriting for you from singing man
, you can do it One day.
You're song for you and yousinging it.
It's the same thing, bro.
Same thing.
Same thing if you think aboutit.
You but you saying that singingis a singing that comes from
the heart and soul.
But there's a lot of singerswho can't.

(29:17):
There's a lot of singers whowho don't have good songs
because they don't have, theydon't know how to write.
And there's rappers who knowhow to rhyme but don't know how
to write who, when you say rhymethey, they flow, is on point
they flow is on the point.
They know how to they yeah,that's different.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm saying, like a lot of people you got to
understand, rappers are havingpeople write they flow and words
for them.
You get what I'm saying that'snot acceptable, like you.
Just what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (29:43):
right, right, right, right, right, right.
It's a tricky thing.
It's a tricky thing, I meanit's.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's a uh, you got.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You made some good points, don't get it twisted,
it's just because, if you justthink, if you're just thinking
that, if you're just thinkinglike dang, if I would have this,
if I could listen to this guy,he write me, write me something
for like and and guide you,guide you like an advisor, guide
you on how you should go aboutit, and then style you up, but

(30:12):
to eventually write your own.
No, he's just grooming you.
Yes, that's how Jermaine Dupridid Criss Cross, just like
that's how Jermaine did Bow Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But you got to understand those are don't get
it twisted.
Twisted they got to the back.
Those are artists.
I consider myself an artist,but I'm not.
I'm not playing.
I'm going to be a great, I'mnot just going to be an artist.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's what it takes if it makes sense no, I don't
doubt it, I don't doubt, I don'tdoubt your potential, I don't
doubt it.
Let's just call it what it isfor us, like us, and if there's
opportunity there for somebody,great, that's gonna write you a
rhyme and um, you know yeah, Ihear that if anybody won't write
you a rhyme, just take theopportunity take that, take that
.
Take that.
No, no, diddy bro.
People saying you can't writeyour rhyme ain't paying your

(31:01):
bills.
Even if they're not, they'renot paying your bills, no matter
if they or not.
If you write it or somebodyelse write it, that person
commented on you.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
There was hundreds of people thousands of people,
just like you said what theiropinion does not matter.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, your opinion doesn't matter it does not
matter they're not the onesfeeding your family that's a
fact right there so then it'slike the love for um, the love
for music, is going to keep yougoing and the love for this game
is keeping me going, man,because I've been pushing this
game for a long, long time, yeah, but like it's like a hard body
two years, two, three years um.
It was supposed to come out in2020 when covet hit yeah, but it

(31:43):
was stuck.
It got stuck, everything shutdown, okay.
So I didn't get it and my wholeapproach was to go through
college and then I had to changeit.
I had to change it, so in twoyears, I had to revamp it.
I had to do Zoom game, nights,fire.
I realized the concept is theconcept.
It's going to be good no matterwhichever way.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I do it, I think so.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Like right now.
I think that I'm getting mystride going your groove.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, podcast is definitely the best way.
Do it just like this you knowhow we're playing it right here,
you get what I'm saying right,right, right.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And you know the professional way, the other way
that we there's another way thatwe play like how say the first.
Say it's a group right and agroup of five the first owner
wins.
Say it's a group right and agroup of five the first one who
wins four cards wins the game.
But now here's the pro way.
Say me and you, we're debating.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
And you lose.
Loser takes a shot.
Oh.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah.
Oh like we, good like Jesus.
All right, man.
I'm glad we wasn't doing that.
I don't drink, man.
I'm glad we wasn't doing that.
I don't drink.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm glad we wasn't doing that.
You know, I don't drink.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, I stopped drinking.
So let's get back to the music.
Let's get back to the music,man.
So what are we expecting, man?
Are we expecting any features,or what is your favorite?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
songs.
Well, I'm going to be my onlyfeature.
Like I said, I do everything.
I rap, harmonize, sing.
I don't know, it's like a weirdmiddle ground, you've heard.
Yeah, it's like a weird middleground.
So I just do everything myself.
I'm my only feature.
Favorite song I got a coupleOne day is like one call away.

(33:24):
Next is leave me alone.
It's like it just flops.
It's like it just flops.
It's just a vibe Like,especially when I listen back.
I found myself listening backas a fan Right, you get what I'm
saying Versus.
Oh, I created this, nah, andthat's how I know I'm doing
something right this time,because I'm literally this is my
morning routine I'm bumpingthis album, making sure

(33:44):
everything is perfect.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
So in this album, making sure everything is
perfect, right?
So, um, yeah, it's again.
If I had to pick one song, Igot a song probably for
everybody to like probably moveto shake, shake.
I don't even know if I'm gonnakeep that as the name, but it's
just a good vibe.
You get what I'm saying, likekind of like cookout song, just
chilling okay, all right, nice,nice, nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
So when?
When do we expect this project?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
so on my birthday, the 20th, I'm not dropping it,
but I would be releasing therelease date and the artwork the
20th of what?
The 20th of september mybirthday's the 20th I expect I
am him at the.
I expect everybody to know mybirthday now, just playing, I'm
just playing, but that's good.
I like that.
Keep that in there.
That's what he ever wants.

(34:32):
That's hilarious, bro.
But yeah, I will be here on myInstagram Again.
I go by TCMA.
They call me AJ.
You can find me everywhere.
I will be releasing the artworkand that release date with a
couple of samples of probablyeach song, to be honest right,
nice, nice, don't worry, man,I'm gonna be in full support of

(34:52):
your movement you always havebeen yes yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Now, we usually um, we usually have like um parting
words.
You know this thing in life,man, it's good to be positive.
Yeah, you gotta be positive,man.
A lot of times when you dopositive things, great things
come to your way.
And timing is everything.
Timing is everything.
And change your algorithm, man.
People out there change youralgorithm in life, man.

(35:17):
Yeah, if you knew better, you'ddo better.
You know so you don't want tobe like hindsight Damn, I
shouldn't have hung with themlow-life scumbags for so long.
I know what you mean, yeah, youknow.
And kids out there go to school, man, go to school, further
your education and change youralgorithm of life.
And then you know you keepdoing the same things.
You're going to get the sameoutcomes.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Of course, that part Change, change, change, Change.
Don't be afraid of it, Yo, it'suncomfortable.
I learned to love theuncomfortable now.
So you know I don't want toknow what's coming next.
I learned to love that change.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, that's what's up man.
That's what's up man.
What's your parting words?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Parting words.
You just got to to be honest,when you believe in something,
just know it, don't just believeit.
Believing means you got alittle bit of doubt in there, no
, you know.
So you got to kind of justtrust yourself that everybody
need to work on trusting theintuition.
You doing amazing man with this.

(36:19):
Your opinion doesn't matter,trust me.
I, I watch and I told you youhave something with this podcast
, this.
I was excited to be here to dothis.
You get what I'm saying and Iwould love to come back and do
it with a full cast.
You get what I'm saying it seemslike a lot of fun.
So it's just more trust whatyou're doing, Even if you're

(36:39):
seeing no outcome.
You never know what tomorrow oreven the next hour holds.
The next hour could be yourtime and you don't know that.
So just always trust you.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
If you can see it is a reality that exists with it
facts, facts plus tax fast plustax listen, and this is the your
opinion doesn't matter podcastand our special guest aj, and
we're gonna be looking out forhis music.
Thank you, thank you, and weare outie man.
Peace, peace, peace, peace livein ordinary live in ordinary

(37:12):
peace.
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