March 15, 2024 • 58 mins
Join us for a heartfelt conversation with Kia, the creative force behind Perfectly Flawed Tees, as we explore the beauty of embracing our imperfections through fashion. Stepping away from the quest for perfection, Kia's narrative as an 'independent nurturer' is nothing short of inspiring. Our exchange traverses the empowering terrain of self-acceptance and the deep impact words can have, all the while threading together tales of parenthood, personal growth, and the transformative influence of therapy for people of color.
As Kia discusses her evolution from a hobbyist to a business maven, we unravel the paradoxical world of entrepreneurial support, where strangers often fan the flames of success more ardently than those we know. We navigate through the trials of pricing and packaging, business operations, and the necessity of community-building in the dog-eat-dog world of small businesses. Our candid discussion also tackles the controversial casting choices in the Bob Marley biopic and ponders the implications of selling creative control versus the economic boost such projects can provide to local communities.
Finally, our conversation takes a turn towards the more intimate corners of the human experience, addressing relationship standards, the moral quandaries of fidelity versus wealth, and the undeniable effect music has on our love lives. We reflect on the lasting influence of Bob Marley's music, as well as the emotional potency songs can hold over us. Wrapping up, we emphasize the importance of living with purpose, the value of sharing wisdom, and the significance of accountability as we chase our dreams. This episode is a rich tapestry of stories and insights that will leave you reflecting on your own journey long after you've listened.
As Kia discusses her evolution from a hobbyist to a business maven, we unravel the paradoxical world of entrepreneurial support, where strangers often fan the flames of success more ardently than those we know. We navigate through the trials of pricing and packaging, business operations, and the necessity of community-building in the dog-eat-dog world of small businesses. Our candid discussion also tackles the controversial casting choices in the Bob Marley biopic and ponders the implications of selling creative control versus the economic boost such projects can provide to local communities.
Finally, our conversation takes a turn towards the more intimate corners of the human experience, addressing relationship standards, the moral quandaries of fidelity versus wealth, and the undeniable effect music has on our love lives. We reflect on the lasting influence of Bob Marley's music, as well as the emotional potency songs can hold over us. Wrapping up, we emphasize the importance of living with purpose, the value of sharing wisdom, and the significance of accountability as we chase our dreams. This episode is a rich tapestry of stories and insights that will leave you reflecting on your own journey long after you've listened.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Welcome to the your opiniondoesn't matter podcast.
I am one of the hosts, mrLamont, and I'm here with my
co-host.
She's running and gunning.
She's in, she's out.
She's going forever be myco-host, even in spirit.
(00:22):
Shirley, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good.
We have a special guest.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We got a guest.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Can you tell the people who you are and what
brand you here to tell everybodyabout Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I am Kia.
I label myself as anempowerment tour.
I also am the owner ofperfectly floor tease, which is
an apparel brand that is aboutmaking sure we have fashion that
speaks, and I want my brand tobe able to send a message and
for you to read what thestatement say and have a
(01:01):
conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I got on one of her teas.
I was gifted, gifted so I goton.
So this is the name of your.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, perfectly floor tease.
But perfectly floor is aremnant of what the brand is
about, the entire mantra.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, okay, okay.
So, nakea, yes.
So how did you come up with thename?
Perfectly flawed.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Great question.
I came up with the name becauseI felt like people, the culture
, men, women are kind of walkingaround with masks on not being
themselves, pretending to beokay and not okay.
So I was kind of going throughthat as a part of my story at
one point in my life, wearing amask, not okay and then I
decided you know what perfectlyflawed.
(01:44):
Why don't we start somethingthat speaks to imperfection?
You know, we have a lot ofthings in the world talking
about perfection and how to beall together, but what happens
if you're not together?
How do you still be okay?
So that's what essentiallybirthed the brand, that's the
fabric that wove it and createdit.
That those feelings.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, any any one particular like situation that
may do say, hey, I'm flawed andit's, and it's okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
As an independent nurturer.
That's code for single mom.
I have been doing that for manyyears but, I, like the same
better than single momindependent nurtures.
With the role I was in and itwas, it was a heavy roll.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What is an independent nurturer?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Single mother independently nurturing her
child, without any co-parents.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's new.
I never heard that one.
I made it up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh, okay, I designed the name.
I'm big into words, as you cansee.
That's my brand is about words,okay.
So my personality is aboutwords.
The birds matter, okay.
So I needed to have somethingthat felt different than single
mother.
It just sounds so done trot andlike single mama.
No, okay, I'm an independentnurturing nurturing a human
(02:59):
being to be great and that'swhat's my role.
But it was a heavy role, right,it was a taxing role, not
having co-parents and it was alot.
So I put on a mask a lot ofdays and was like, okay, I put a
mask for my child.
It seemed okay, but I was notokay.
So I began to start therapy.
Actually, that's whatcatapulted me into a great space
to start the brand starttherapy.
(03:22):
Debunk the myth that therapy isnot for black people, because
it is and that's not a journey.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So yeah, that's not a journey.
Therapy is therapeutic.
No one no one, so I pulled you,I pulled you.
I never heard that independentnurturing.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I just thought of it like some years ago, when
my son was like 14 or 15.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So did you have him young or Not?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
too young.
I would say it was like early,late twenties.
Okay, late twenties yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, it's funny, me and Lamont had a conversation
earlier about nurture.
I was telling him that I feellike I and not to get away from
your t-shirt but I didn't feellike a nurture.
I felt like as a single mom.
Young, I was 16.
I felt like we were goingthrough survival.
So to hear you say nurture.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't think.
I became a nurturer until later, so yeah, I think, but do you
really feel like that?
I think you're always nurturing, no matter what you're going
through.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, but but like we're two different ages, I
don't think I didn't know what Iwas doing at 16.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure me out.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I just want to get some Pampers and some milk and
oh, now you got to go to school,that's what they say at five.
So it was like two differentworlds.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But I mean, I think that an independent nurturer.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I think I champion you in the same way.
I don't think I've always beena nurturer.
My son and myself we sort ofgrew up together, so he's grew
up in my imperfections, and soone of the things I started
before perfectly for was at-shirt company called kids
operations, and it was with myson and it was a way, as I was
parents and to say I don't needa baby sitter and I could still
(05:02):
follow my passion.
So I was making t-shirts forkids at the time, okay, and my
son was like my top model.
That was circa maybe 15 yearsago, but that's kind of what
really kind of jumpstarted me,just being interested in words
and t-shirts, okay, and thenmorphed into something different
when perfectly for T started.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So you said words do matter, mm?
Hmm, because growing up it waslike six and so on.
I break my bones and wordsnever hurt me.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But words do hurt.
I only learned that from mychild.
Actually my child was aboutseven, okay, and we say that
sang that nursery rhyme Six andso on.
I break my bones.
But one day my son came to meand said no, but words do.
No, he said words do hurt, mommy, and I said so.
You know, like I said, my son,like I said, but my son has been
(05:48):
a catapult of me starting andgrowing and being on a beautiful
journey.
In some amazing ways Because Ithought of it the same way Six
and so on, I break my bones, Ibreak my bones.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, we made it not hurt, right, but it did hurt but
he said to me it does hurt, mm.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Hmm, words do hurt.
It made me look at it from adifferent lens.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So you started watching what you were saying.
Definitely, I don't always getit right and I still don't
always get it right, but he hadjust really minded my words.
Therapy has taught me how toreframe my words, because words
do matter.
What you say tends to manifest,so no, it's gonna say so.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Your therapy was for for yourself, Definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What did you have to?
What did you learn aboutyourself?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh my gosh, I learned that I overthink.
I learned that I'm flawed.
I learned that you know, I'm agreat mom.
Anyway, although I may notthink some days I'm great, I
learned so much.
I'm still learning.
I think therapy is a foreverlearning thing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So I don't think that it ever stops.
You ever stopped learning aboutyourself, so I'm still growing.
I still go to therapy.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, all right.
So now words hurt.
Your son just hit you with thewords hurt and words affirm.
Let's not just say that, yes,that part right Words are fun,
Words hurt, and words are fun.
And what said what?
What did you?
What made you?
When they say, hey, I'm gonnaput this on a power, just
everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
when you walk, you see people with shirts or
clothes on and you're staring atthat clothes.
You're reading their clothes.
Right, I thought about just mypersonality.
I'm an Amber, so sometimes Iwant to talk.
Sometimes I don't stopunpacking.
So that means extroverted andI'm charged by people and
sometimes I'm very introvertedand I need to go with them.
Okay, so I'm both, I'm not justone.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So it's a combination Okay, is that your word, or is?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
it.
That's a real.
That's a real.
Yeah, that's a real term.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Okay, no, I'm not, no , no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't make them on a but that's a real term.
Amber, yes, amber, amber.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, so I feel like if the introvert doesn't want to
speak, their fashion can speakfor them and to them.
Okay, and that's what I wantedto do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So most people have the idea in their head and it
never like they don't do thework.
What made you do the work?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I'm still doing the work.
Okay, so I just it, just.
I my the better thing is whatmade me?
The better question may be whatmade me start?
And it was that space offeeling like I don't see what I
want, so I'm going to createwhat I want, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
All right, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
How long you had this business.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So I want to say at least 10 years, but really I
want to say most of those yearsit was a hobby because I didn't
have business systems and reallylike great stuff.
So it was a lot of visions, alot of just, you know, word of
mouth kind of thing.
But now I think in the lastcouple of years I've been taking
it a lot more seriously and myLLC some years ago.
(08:48):
So I wasn't doing that at firstI was just kind of like hammer
selling my t-shirts at the trunk, kind of thing, but I started
getting official.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,
nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So how do you get yourself out there?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I'm still slow walking.
I'm really still on socialmedia platforms, which is
Instagram.
That's big platforms.
I'm dabbling with TikTok alittle bit.
I'm not on there as much, but mycommunity is really on
Instagram and my brand is aboutmore than just selling a t-shirt
.
Like I said, I'm an empowerment, or so I'm trying to create
community on my social media.
(09:29):
So, just more than you justclicking to say, hey, I want a
t-shirt, we're really havingconversations, dialogue.
We're talking all things mentalhealth.
We're talking what could makeyou laugh, what could make you
cry.
How do we win together?
We win is one of our mantras.
So it's bigger than just youbuying a shirt for me.
It's really about you becominga part of my community.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So I see you have together, we win.
Yes, what was the inspirationbehind that?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Because I feel like together we really do win.
I think as a community AfricanAmerican community we always the
metaphors with crabs and abarrel or women that we can't
get along or we saw eyeing, oryou know checking people.
I feel like we could really winif we take all of that out and
say, hey, you got something Icould give, I got something you
(10:15):
can give.
We winning right now together,right now.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right, right, collaborating on the spot.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's winning, so I believe in the win.
Okay, okay, and well, wealready got to perfectly floor
it.
Yes, and what?
What are the statements youhave?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Love is dope Okay, it's one.
Love is another.
Okay, I have no mask, no makeup, no flaws.
It's another.
Okay, no weapon formed againstme, but that's the Bible.
So that don't really belong tome, but I put it on the T-shirt.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, right Right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's the big lead that don't belong to me.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Specifically, god about to sue you.
Dope is a lifestyle, so everystatement is like a fabric and
tapestry of my own personalstory.
Okay, so when you wear it, youembrace that.
It becomes your story.
That's really the goal and themission, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, so when you so, you get the idea right.
So now you have to mess withfonts.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't do that part.
You don't know, I'm a creative,so I'm just like this is what I
want.
I got a people on my team likea designer, so I this is my
vision.
You make it come, come to life.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So your your logo right, so the people your logo.
Pf Perfectly floor, that's itso you made up your own logo, so
you did it, or you just gave itto me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I gave it to my designer to say, hey, I want
this is what the look I want.
I want it to look flawed, Iwant the look to look rough.
So I just give them some ideas,some light ideas.
We've been working together solong that it's always a win.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, so that's your your people, yes, your tea
people yes, all right All rightAll right.
When did t-shirts get big Cause?
All of a sudden they juststarted popping up and I shoulda
did my research.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But Like what you been doing them for a while,
that's the thing I got stuck.
So that's like how long ago wasthat?
So my son was doing it Rightand I was like at least 10, 15
years ago, right, right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So he then he went to the military.
Then I did my thing and then Ijust got stagnant.
And it's funny because I had2014,.
My friend asked me to be in apop-up shop and I did everything
.
I did all the platforms and Igot the bags.
I got everything.
Everybody was coming to mytable.
(12:30):
So one of the girls took me tothe side.
She said you know, I camestraight to your table cause you
got it together, and then Inever Wow so that wasn't
motivating enough to keep going.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What got in your way?
It was life.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And procrastination.
That's real.
What was it?
It?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
was just one item.
What was it?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I had a few.
I ain't trading more thanbuying a little bike seat.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No more about that.
I don't want to say what thedays are.
I got to buy it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But it's funny because it's a daily in my head.
So, like they always say, if itkeeps coming back, then it's
for you, but it's just it'ssheer laziness.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Cause you have a thing about partnering with
somebody or like doing likeproject based, maybe not like a
full line, but like this monthor May we pop up every year, so
it starts taxing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I thought about it, but I don't want to.
I'm not confrontational.
I don't same thing with thewomen, can't get along.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't want to get my idea.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You want to be in a safe place where somebody's not
stealing bike.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But I was listening to Issa Radio the day about like
letting people in this personcould do this, let them do it
that or whatever.
That's one of the people that Ilook up to.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, I love this.
I'm rooting for everybody black, just like that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So okay, so yeah, he makes your font, so you just
have the creative and he yeah,so we're a team.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So that's, he's a part of my team, so he does the
graphic, the font.
I give the idea, this is theword I'm looking for, and he
flips it back and say this iswhat we're gonna do, this is
what we're gonna go with, and Iyes or no.
So I'm the yes or no at the end.
But ultimately he's my graphicdesigner.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So I ask so what floor made you say, hey, if
there is one, hey, I wanna dothis.
Or a floor you struggled with?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Oh, man, a floor that I struggled with is
overthinking.
Okay, overthinking I can.
It could be to the point whereI overthink and talk myself out
of something.
So I talk myself out of juststarting, or I just overthinking
, and it just becomes race andthoughts which then distract you
.
So that's not my struggle withoverthinking.
I overthink this parking spacebefore I got here Like oh my God
(14:47):
, and the parking space is open.
I'm like I'm gonna get in.
So yeah, overthinking issomething that I've been on the
journey, trying to figure out.
I haven't, you know, masteredit, but I do overthink.
So that's, I would say, ifthat's a floor, that's one of
mine.
Okay, all right all right.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What does the shirt say?
Together we win, Together wewin yes, yeah, I could say
that's a floor of mine, BecauseBecause you try, you know you
would want to win with somebody.
Then it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, that's one thing too, and I see you know,
so you get disappointed in.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, you ruin the relationship.
Oh wow, yes, you ruin therelationship, you know, and you
have good intentions, but theother person could fall on the
bad end of your intentions butlike, and then I see those
arguments but you had yourintentions was for us to win,
and then it does fall as well.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That happened to me a couple of times.
Yeah, that can happen.
That's a true thing that goeson every day.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So how do you get?
Over that Like you, you, you,you, you, you, you.
It's hard to get over it,especially the person is dealing
with it because they're goingto keep on there with reminding
you.
But then it's like, even thoughyou have a pure heart, you be
like listen, I'm doing this forus, I want us, we can do it.
And then if it don't, oncepeople put a time in and the
(16:06):
money in, then then then you owethem, you owe them blood.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So the time you can't get back, Right, but then it's
like they're not going to have.
They don't have that same kindof thought that together we win.
You have to bring that to theirattention.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I feel like you know, when I hear you talk about
it, it sounds like you'retalking about alignment and it's
it's hard to sometimes knowwhether you're lying.
I think prayer you know I'm apraying woman, so I think
definitely praying first to seeif this is the alignment,
because sometimes I think youknow we could be on the same
page but not on the same page.
But you're saying like I mighthave this idea.
You've seen, like your Ford,I've worked into that a lot and
(16:43):
as a creative it's frustrating.
Because it's like I thought youwere then Right.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well, you're not as hungry as I am.
Not only hungry, because theysee you and then they see the
work and it's like you know,it's hard finding people that
really love your baby.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, but then your vision.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But the thing about it is they're not going to love
it more than you are, right, sothey're not going to they be
like it's yours.
I'm just here for the ride,right?
So then you know, it's likethat's when it's like contracts
and it's together we win.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It's not as simple as it sounds.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Together, you win Even.
Maybe you got a better chancewith your family, maybe not even
your family but I say to mystranger so you better off
together.
We win by paying people.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I want to say something too Far as support.
Who's like your biggestsupporter Is like.
Do you have like returningcustomers?
Great question.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I guess, support from people that I don't know more
than people that I do know, wow,yeah, yeah, that's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So I say it's better to pay people, people that you
know they are going to come.
I think they will come when,like the, you know, like the
party's already started.
You know what I'm saying nextto you, you know when it blows
up, right.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh they there.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They there now I know , but before that, they just
want to see you grow.
But they're not going to,they're going to break.
You know they don't want to.
You know, jump into that, youknow double that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dispectators though, so I agree with you.
But I want to say somethinglike what's your price point?
Like the sweatshirt, sosweatshirts can run.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thank, you, by the way.
Oh, you're welcome.
So sweatshirts are anywherefrom like 45 to 55, depending on
the fit's glitter.
I do puff print.
Okay, we do embroidery.
So when we do specifications,the price kind of changes just
because it's like one of a kindtype of thing and we put some
special okay into it.
T-shirts are 27.
Typically 27.
(18:37):
If I do something like fancywe'll raise the price a little
bit, but typically that's theprice, so it's pretty reasonable
.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Nice price point.
But what do you say when?
Excuse me, you have a niceprice point, I think you're fair
.
Now you got people with yourblack owned right.
Yes, and between you and Gucci.
I don't think Gucci, but like,how do you feel?
Like you feel about us as apeople going to spend with the
(19:09):
Europeans than try to build usup?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel like people are more apt to go outside and
spend whatever the price pointis, with no question, but I feel
like sometimes you do deal withan audience of black people
that are, like you know afinesse, like okay, why can't I
get this for 30?
, why can't I get it for 20?
, but you don't go on Gucci orLouis Vuitton.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Exactly, you gotta do them down.
How does that make you feel asa designer, as a, you know, a
small business owner?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I think I had to grow in that area before it used to
really anger me, you know.
But now I'm at this point likeyou're not my audience If you
got to worry about lowering myprice, you really not my
audience.
So all money is not good moneyis what I've learned.
Oh yeah, so I'm not.
I don't need your money, Right,If that's the type of energy
you bring in to buy it.
I like people.
(19:58):
That's just like I like it.
What's the cash at?
What's?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
how about pay, for example?
Yeah, they want you to lure itto the company.
Yes, when it comes to the wholebunch and it's not that I don't
give people.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
As you can see, I give or I give back.
So I'm not wanting to like that.
But if you have to like, do awhole lot of questioning as to
then I might not be youraudience.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You might not be my audience and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So, but I had to get there.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay, you know I wasn't always there, right, so
come on, get there.
So what did you do in thebeginning of your business that
you were like it's not workingfor me?
And then you kind of like Atthe shift or something Right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Packaging.
I'm big on aesthetics, so Ilike things very beautiful.
Okay, so, as I first started, Iwas spending a lot of time on
the bow, the sticker theprettiness the thank you cards,
the this, the that, the stickerson the refrigerator, all that
came with your package, right,and it necessarily wasn't in my
favor.
You know, sometimes it was moreexpensive than it, than what
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you purchased.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But doesn't that come with branding and putting
yourself off?
I?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
think it was good at first, but as I began to grow it
wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So, when I would get orders it wasn't cost effective.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's the part that's hard as a business owner,
because some of the perks thatyou have when you want a smaller
scale, right, you want to keep,but as you start scaling up you
can't Right.
Okay, all right.
I agree so it hurts me when Ilike even now, sometimes, I'll
you know, when we package stufffor people, it's not as
exquisite as it used to be, askind of we, simple, but it's
(21:27):
still pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But when people tell me like, oh, I just threw the
business card away, oh, I justthrew the thing, I just threw
the stick at my sister she justbrought something.
I was so excited Like you gotmy box.
She was like, yeah, through thecard and garbage.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I was like are business cards still a thing now
?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They are people.
What's a have, Because peopleare acts but honestly I hate it
when they acts too.
But I was just at an eventWe've been doing, like the dot
thing and the hello and thebling.
I think those are all cool, butnow that I've been to that
event I don't know where thosepeople are in my contact Right
right.
Because they formulate in yourcontact.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But I guess it's still worse because the first
thing they gonna act is for it.
When you don't have it, youfeel like ah.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I feel like such an idiot and it's not that
expensive either.
Yeah, I got the dot.
I'm gonna look into from thisevent.
I went to yesterday or Thursdaywomen's day.
For women's day Many people hadthe dot card.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Happy international.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Thank you.
Same to you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So people just scan it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
So I think I have to come up with a system.
Ok, and maybe take a picture ofwho you were before.
I scanned that into my phone,because now I don't remember.
Like, have these people upthere.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Have you ever thrown your shirt to a celebrity?
No, I've never done that ever.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I got out of thinking like Speaking of
inter-existence.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Thank you, Because I'm like who want it, you should
have it and you should have aunisex on it all the time.
But I'm just giving it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's a good thing.
Thank you for coming togetherwith me when I need it.
For it, yes free game.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Just have something like in a large.
You know what I mean?
Unisex or with a red or evenneon, whatever, like, something
like this just happened.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I never thought of that Like so, I never even
really thought of a celebrity.
I've just been local to regularpeople.
T-shirts with green bin.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But even we're a little.
I remember wearing Sesame Placet-shirts.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
T-shirts always are Well I remember even learning
about Supreme, a little bit likedoing my research, as I was
learning about t-shirts and Allthose companies and Babe and you
know, my son educated me.
He was like Babe.
I think they threw Biggie ashirt.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And a Skotty soda and they became big.
Ok, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I had a shirt line before too years ago.
Wow, it was old school slang.
They used to have differentslangs on different shirts.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But yeah but I you want me to bring it back, not
really.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't know that's the thing is going on.
It doesn't come to mind once ina while.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, people telling me.
But it's like I learned so mucheven from watching Shark Tank
that you have almost that thingSKUs too much.
I have like 10 to 20 of them.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like different slangs .
I think I had too many too.
I think I have too many I needto stick to three and push it If
I come back with it, but I'llcome back Right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, like so spread.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It'll be that one catchy one, yeah, the one that
I'm not sharing right now.
I'll bring it back when youbring yours out All right, so
we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yes, yes, all right.
And we could all do a pop up.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'll pop up my game.
That's what I'm really pushing.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think that's what we struggle with.
I love that Because I feel likewhen we go to dinner or my
family functions.
I'm the one that doesn't likewhen people are to the side
talking, so I like a game thatbrings everybody together.
We're getting to learn eachother.
So is it dicey, what kind ofquestions.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes, it's different topics Like, um, we have sex and
lies.
That's a good one.
That's a very good one.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
We have a couple's game.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, it's a group game .
It's a game and it has yourfavorite thing that you all
indulge with earlier.
You can play it, lose it, takeshots.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Let's talk about drinks.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm talking about alcoholic beverages.
These ladies are messing withmy sobriety right now.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Some tequila, some tequila, loosing up the, but I'm
fighting the power.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Now I'm good, I'm two years, no drink.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, so the game is great.
The game is great.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Name it the game again.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Your opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Act the name of the show.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You can get it at wwwyodmcom, and what's your
website for yours?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So I don't have a website, so you can follow me on
Instagram, which ispfismfranktsts.
Also on Facebook, perfectly,floor T spelled out.
And on TikTok it's pfts.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right.
So your slogan, your missionstatement you have one of those?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, it's.
My slogan is fashion thatspeaks to you, for you and for
you OK, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And what do you want to say to the people?
Oh wow, Regarding your tees.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I want to say that everybody has a story.
Everybody has some sort ofchapter, story, history that is
woven into their lives.
So we want you to.
I love for you to use myt-shirt to tell your story.
It's some saying that I know Imust have.
That represents a part of yourstory journey and I love for you
(26:13):
to purchase it and wear it andshare it and just let it
minister to you for real.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So take six and take a picture.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And be my model, prefer it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Tag her body, tag me in your face, hook it up, hook
it up.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Everybody tags me all the time, so that's fun and I
like to tell people becauseeverybody, I don't want you to
feel a pressure, to feel likeyou got to be my top model once
you buy a shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So it's just voluntary if you want to have
the picture I don't like pics,not a picture.
Yeah, I'm on the parkette.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
So can I tag you?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
in yeah, you can tag me, you can tag me.
I like that commission.
I think I'm all right today.
Oh yeah always I did the gold,the jade, the gold, the match.
Yes, stain socks Together wewin.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's a metallic year.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Thanks, thank you All right.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, do get out there and support the brand Support
for B-Floor Tees.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yes, yes, yes.
Share with a friend's hellafriend.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So I've been hearing some reviews of the Bob Marley
movie and one protest maybeanother slight protest is when
they saying the lead actor who'splaying Bob Marley, he's from
England and a lot of Jamaicansis not happy with that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Here's the thing One of the brothers sold the rights
to the studio so they have fullreign on who plays.
I mean, that's their money.
He sold the rights.
I mean the brother sold therights to the movie company that
was sponsoring the film, sothey're going to put in the
(27:57):
actor that they feel that'sgoing to portray Bob Marley or a
respectable actor.
And the thing is with the movie.
When I was reading I did someresearch.
Some of the musicians were likegrandkids and kids of the
original whalers or people thatwere participated.
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So and then they brought moneyinto Jamaica.
They used Jamaicans, but thething is, people that were
non-Jamaican.
There's a little description inthe Jamaicans and with the
people that was forcing.
It was a little but you had tobe really listening to it, but I
learned a lot.
I didn't know A few things.
I did not know about Bob Marley.
I did not know Bob Marley's dadwas white.
(28:39):
I didn't know he had so manykids.
While I was doing some research, he was doing a lot of good.
I saw what he was doing, butonce again, once we start
getting together as a people,that upsets the other people and
(29:01):
that's what he was doing and Ilearned about Siaga and the two
prime ministers, or whatever thecase may be, there were odds.
One was working with here andthe other one was trying to
bring some social change andjustice.
And then I really listened tothe music.
The music was like all I knowfrom back then was One Love.
(29:23):
That's all I know.
That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And what's that?
Before that, I actually beenlistening to the music.
One Woman, no oh One.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no One, no Cry, I promise you.
I do know that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I promiseyou Any Y'all know a good five
Right, Come on now.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Don't do Bob Marley's dad All right.
So let's say One Woman.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
No Cry.
One Love, that's two.
Come on, give me a three.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I didn't know.
The third thing I didn't knowthe assassination on his family,
the time yeah, that was thefirst one.
That's what I just watched thedocumentary on the first one.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh, no, I mean I watched the documentary on his.
Oh, the first documentary.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Ok, yeah, that was crazy how no one died and the
concert what it represented, andthen he actually left Jamaica.
Because here I am trying tochange for you guys and you guys
are running up in my house.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I keep going for trade.
So where did he go?
He went to England, went toEngland.
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
He went to England and that's it.
And the kids, some kids.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, and you know.
So what else was interesting?
His wife, she knew him withdifferent women and she was so I
don't know.
I'm not going to say she was OKwith it, Right, she didn't put
up a fuss with it and sheactually she was like you know.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And she benefited.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
She to her, her soul.
She probably didn't benefit,Maybe financially, but I heard
that there would be some timesLike there were some times that
like, say, who have women in hisroom and like stayed up, get a
hostile.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And she'll call her.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
She'll call her.
And she'll come in and get themout.
Wow, Because she just knew itwas an arrangement.
At this point to me it's likeyou know, you know.
I mean I don't know if it wasan arrangement.
I mean, if she stayed, it's anarrangement.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We are ranging things , I mean she went out there and
did her thing too Well.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
that's what I saw in the documentary that she was
pregnant.
I guess Bob Marley wastraveling and then she shared
that she was having a baby.
I don't know which child it was.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, I didn't think she had one baby, she had an
extra finger Right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And she said it was like the father.
The father had this comes fromher father.
And then Bob Marley went on atour and seen the father and
notice he ain't had an extrafinger.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And came back and was like what girl you tell me how
Right.
But the thing is, you have torealize, at that point she had
accepted about one or two of his.
You got messy when she did it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Why is it the same thing?
You know why that is.
Why are you getting?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
messy when she did it , but women is not supposed to
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh, here we go, there we go, so do men.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Welcome back to me.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, I think I get why he might have been a part of
it, because it is religion andthey in his religion.
I understand that they can havemultiple women.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Right, but I mean bigger than that.
This in general, okay, ingeneral men does men do it
because you know it's no realmethod to the madness, but when
y'all do it it's vicious.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh, it's a level of like.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I like you a lot In order for y'all to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean we had this conversation before when we're
more invested, when we cheat.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Hmm, which mean?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
we have to like you.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Okay, you know, we're not going to, we're not going
to cheat.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
We're not going to randomly cheat.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yes, okay, even if y'all was the you know like even
if those drinks would pushy'all to do it as quick as men,
this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
He you know what I realize and you have to know
your man like constantly askinghim if he was married, he wasn't
saying yes or no, he likedwomen.
You know a lot of women.
You know he had the hey.
Yeah, let's get to this.
So the Damien, not Damien'smother, damien Mollie, that
(33:05):
Cindy's, I don't see.
I forgot her last name and nostarts with a, b.
She was having an issue alsoabout she, the timeline she was
in his life.
You don't get to be part of thestory as a side chick, right
Like, and then I had.
I was like, oh, that was soclose, he was part of her life
and you're a side chick.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You don't ride the limo at the.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You don't ride the limo, you, you you get the
benefit and then he didn't havea will which leaves you open to
all types of probate.
You go to probate when youdon't have it together.
He should have had one, asegway's 30 million.
She, she was good.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
She, she divided it, his kids got she that was nice,
yeah, yeah, I mean she was well,she was already.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Those kids were in her house.
Oh, right, okay, okay, butstill she could have been, like
she could have.
But honestly, what likereciprocity, like we talked
about before, like where wouldyou go?
Those are his kids you knowlike you.
You got a nice chunk.
You know you living in Ghana.
He adopted your first daughter.
He accepted your, your kid inbetween.
But the thing with him is heloved freely.
(34:14):
So I wanted to ask the question, right.
Whitman General question.
He liked what he liked and hefelt like it was okay to sleep
with these women and make babieswith them.
I'm protected.
I mean, does he get a passcause he's rich?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh and no, I don't know.
My stance is a little different.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And mine is too.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Like I don't like to share.
I was only child, so Sharon isnot camera for me.
No, no, no, my child Listen.
But I just feel like I believein a covenant of being committed
to relationships.
So I don't really understandhaving multiple people and me
being okay with it.
But you know, to each his ownRight.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
And I'm not saying she was okay with it, but you
got to realize with men it's allabout control.
I'm sure he has a wife.
Women are going to get.
We're like as a wife I wouldlook at him guy like wow he's
looking, but that doesn't mean Ihave to go with him Right.
Right, like when men think it'slike so visual, like damn.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I will have you know like they done, picture it all
Right, she can give me head justthat and the third, like what,
lamar, this question is for you?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
What makes you say, hey, it's just going to be in
here and I don't have to, Idon't have to act out on it?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Oh, for me, you know I changed you know.
I mean I'm engaged, going toget married Probably, hopefully,
this year.
I've been staying out for thelast two years.
Okay, but um so,congratulations Thank you.
You just got to come to theconclusion, like, I've been
there, done that, you must havea lot of experience already.
So it's like you know why, whynow?
(36:04):
And then also, what's the?
What's the risk I'm taking,meaning that I could lose my
family, you know?
I mean like is it really, youknow, just go sleeping with her
and then lose?
Then things can come back and Iget caught.
No, no, no, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You got to the ends, got to justify the means.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
But what if the guy come in the relationship and
like, listen, I'm just alwaysgoing to have a taste for other
women.
Yeah, Women that.
Accept that.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Let me ask you all questions so I'm like I got to
get to the root.
Then my, my thing is like thewhy you don't have to, you don't
have to.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Why him?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, like I feel like to me, a man that needs a
multitude of women needs to dosome shadow work and some
therapy to find out why do youneed, what's your mommy issue,
what's your mommy wound?
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
do you need?
Why got to be a mommy issue?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I mean I, I, that doesn't necessarily have to be
it could be right, but I justfeel like, why do you need
what's what's driving youneeding more than one what's
driving?
I think I have some friends islike that and I think it could
be an addiction.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It could be an addiction, it could be like
something these starters, like afire that's inside of them that
they just see something that,oh wow, nice, I like it, I want
it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But now it's like you know, y'all saying y'all have
standards and you know, wouldy'all if you had an option
dealing with a you have afaithful broke man, he got a 10%
chance of cheating on you 10%.
Or you or you dealing with aman who's like 75% chance he's
going to cheat on you, but he'srich.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I don't want no chance.
I don't want to deal with nochance, I want you.
I want you to have some selfcontrol because I have to have
self control.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
But if you have to pick a bar after work.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I have control when I see a nice looking doctor or
pass me or he first with me.
I have to have self control.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
So I want you to have the same level of self control.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, holdon, hold on we we.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
We visit this topic already, oh, yeah, I think we go
here all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, but no you said when you go into a bar, right,
oh, here we go.
When you go into a bar, yousaid you, what did you?
What's the words you just used?
Self control.
Self control Meaning what?
How far would this control go?
Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm just talking about.
We're talking about marriage,yeah, and commitment and
relationships.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
No, no, don't run from this you go into the bar.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He said you don't rise, you go into a bar.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
This question is going to be for you too.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
OK when we go into a bar, I have to take a shot of my
liquor.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yes, go, take a shot.
You know, take a shot of yourliquor.
He said do what you got to do,because you're the answer to
this.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I got you OK, so now here's the question.
Like you know, you saying that,what's the words you used?
Again, self control.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Self control right so what is it?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What is OK?
When is it out of your control?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
At what point when I take it out of my imagination.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, so hold on.
The gentleman is talking to you.
And then what?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like, if his chest looks good, I'm already on top
of his chest in my mind right.
Like, just like you, like you,like you, men.
Visualize.
Sorry, we visualize also, Don'tthink we just be like, oh he's
cute.
No, we done so you have sex inour mind.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
So hold on, nakeah, nakeah, I'm asking you a
question when you have a man, doyou have sex in your mind?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
when you, when you're going out with your girl to the
bar and your man is at home,probably with the kids,
Hypothetically I think I'm awhat they call that, like
something sapient, like I'mattracted to not just the
physical, to intellect, for meas first.
So I don't necessarily look andbe like he, fine, I'm looking
at what I'm listening, what'scoming out of my head, so that's
(39:31):
more attractive and that mightsend me into a bow.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So hold on, it's a name to me, so it sounds like
there is a little bit ofweakness in your, your little
swagger.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh, we all fall short .
A flawed, oh shoot.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And if you all fall short, why do you want this
perfect man?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
No, I don't want a perfect man.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
What's a perfect man?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You said you don't want your man to cheat at all.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I would like him not to cheat that doesn't make him
perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
If he's monogamous, he's just monogamous.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, I think that's what she is.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't put this on me.
You said, you're not giving a10.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And in the 75, I'm like I would like it to be none
but you said but we're talkingabout I'm generalizing Bob
Marley, like what was it likewith him?
Obviously it was like I likewhat I see and I'm going to get.
It was seven kids in right.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Whatever the number is, it's a lot of.
It's a lot of child's mothersthere.
You know what I mean, right,and there's just so much that
comes with messing with thatwhole unprotected sex thing.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Look at your boy, nick Cannon.
He has like 11, 12 kids rightnow, man, but there's these
women.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
No, we don't even know what.
But I would hope he, like in aperfect world, like get some
gynecologist tests and seewhat's going on with these women
.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like it's herpes.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
That's forever right HPV.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
HPV AIDS.
It's HPV.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's one of the mother, things that come with
sexual transmittance.
It's a sexual yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
So like.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But I think that people always just talk about.
They don't talk about theunprotected sex and the risks.
I think, even as we're in 2024,I think people are still
wilding out and, oh, I know, Iknow people.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I know people.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But people still, on the other hand, are getting
sexual transmittance, aregetting AIDS.
You know all that stuff isstill happening.
So I think it's important for aman to think, or a woman to
think about when I'm steppingout, the risk that can be
happening, that and I got.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
We had discussion before.
Sex is spiritual.
You just take on all typesUnprotected even if it's not
unprotected, protected.
Won't you let somebody insideof you?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, but so you say the spiritual to y'all.
So what is it to men?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Physical.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Because you say when he's in.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
That's all you did.
He's in.
Jacqueline, I've had thisconversation with you before
it's inward, we're inward, andthat's why you guys get so upset
because we're literally lettingsomebody inside of us.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So you're like I'm going to say the dumping grounds
.
Basically, Now, I'm not thedumping grounds.
You're the one that that's whenwe said something before.
You said no, that's OK thedumping grounds.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
He said that he said he knows when.
What do you say?
Which was wild so far in mytest and text week?
One of the shows he's like yobeing with a corpse is wild as
sex.
He said that some women youwould feel like a corpse.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because you feel like you're not.
It's a feeling You're not,they're not in it.
They're not.
No, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's like they are Dumping grounds, which is what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
The dumping grounds is like.
They're like a corpse, Meaninglike See young ladies.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The older you are, the older you get, the less
vibrant you are.
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
OK.
So they need Viagra for women,like the energy level is low, no
, he's talking about elasticity,right.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, like they not doing enough cables.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
They not doing something, they not eating
enough broccoli?
I don't know?
Ok, it's not juicy, I mean, I'mjust I'm trying to understand
what you're saying I'll jump inthe pocket.
It's dry.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
It's dry the piece of dry thing, if you compare.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
If you compare an older woman to a younger woman,
the man is always going to wantto go with the younger woman.
Because, Because it's adifferent feeling.
It's a different feeling andthe younger woman is not going
to be on that.
I've been there, done that andall of this, and the older woman
, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
But you're older men.
Like you guys lose energy.
Not to say I'm not, I'm not.
You guys lose energy as well,but it's not about energy.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
25 years and 35 years , I hear giving us it's not,
it's not, it's not, it's not,it's not an energy thing, it's
not an energy thing.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
It's an energy thing for you guys too.
So what is it then?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's a.
It's a.
Okay.
This is new to her.
It's not a.
Been there, done that.
It's like-.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
So you mean she's more open to do different things
?
Like doing it in a car, doingit on a chandelier swinging it
on a chandelier.
That type of thing.
Is that what you mean?
She's more fun.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
She has less mileage on her.
Wow, you know you go to a lot,you don't oh?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
you mean she's wait?
Wow, no, don't get it twisted.
You got younger women that gotmore mileage.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That's what I'm saying.
They been out there.
I mean, it's like you knowshe's more like a.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know, like with the, the, the, the caramie, that
could get like a, you know,200,000 miles on it, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Wow, willing it back in right, it's car metaphor okay
, oh shit, I'm trying to stayShit, I don't know, let me check
.
Take my car to the shop.
Wait you talking, I gotta makesure I'm straight.
Yeah, baby, oh man, but I-.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I learned a lot about him, you know, and made me want
to listen to his music.
But I was listening to JamaicanDJ the other day and he was
just saying like how much of RobBonny's songs do the DJ?
Did Jamaican DJs play at aparty?
Not much, no.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Probably on the older set.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
And right, even in the older sets.
And do you think Bob Marleywould be happy with today's
radio music?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
No, no, it's tri-.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm not gonna say it's tri-ass and I'm becoming
for me, but what?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
he's saying he was more of an activist as well as a
singer.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Exactly, exactly All of that stuff and talking about
like fighting your man and this,that and that, that wasn't his
music.
His music was.
If you listen to it, it's more,you know conscious more Right
Right Activism.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's music.
Man, that's some real goodstuff right there, man.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, music.
I was just saying music isgreat for my own soul, so Right.
And also music can be great for, like sometimes, when I'm in
the space of saying, you know,I'm not trying to be in a
relationship and I'm trying tofall back Some music I can't
listen to, I'm like, oh you knowwhat, that might not, that
(46:06):
might take me to a place.
Right so music has a huge power.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, it could torture you too.
It could torture you Exactly.
It happened to me before.
Exactly, I ain't gonna say thesong, but it happened to me.
Like yo, this thing is not.
I don't like this song.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Some songs take you back somewhere.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah they're too nostalgic.
Some songs I'm like.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I don't even want that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or the person Right this isn'ta good place.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
This is a good time to create.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
This is a nice area of my life right here.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
No, yes please don't put this in the place.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
And music too is especially in.
I mean, go to parties, go tothese brunches, start drinking
and music to sound.
I like music, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Like you know, I mean , contrary to what others might
think, victoria Monet is myaffirmation on my mama.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I know she told them all sex and some of the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
But you know, I look fly, I look good.
That part of the lyrics, that'smy motivation, that's my
affirmation.
Someone is so music can affirmyou too, you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Sometimes I worry.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
And eat the meat and spit out the bones, you know.
So, right, right, right.
That's what I do with that oneRight.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm like mama, okay, but that's the affirmation for
me.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Okay so it could be, it could have its good place in
this.
You gotta know you know, oncethey muted R Kelly, I was like
dang.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, I'm even feel comfortable listening to Tam.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I was like dang Step in the name of love, not at a
wedding I had to get used tothat yes.
But then I like songs likedon't put me out, don't put me
you know songs like that.
That was like sort of likewomen's anthems back in the days
, for you know when men docruddy stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But you know what I realized too, and I was like wow
, you know how spiritual LaurenHill is.
Yes, she won it, I think she.
So they met.
They were when I was in theRoan Han on Drink Champs.
I think they went in the studiotogether and they hooked up.
I mean you know they ended orwhatever the case may be.
I know, lauren, she probably,like I, was one to have a kid
(48:04):
with a Molly.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I love listening to him on something and he Drink
Champs.
I don't know what it was.
It was Drink Champs orsomething that it was like a
clip and he really gave her suchaccolades.
He was like she's a beautifulperson, right.
Did you see that clip.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He was just like she's a beautiful mother to his
children.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
He had, like, nothing negative to say and it seemed
very authentic.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I mean when you're on Champion's, like she is a very
beautiful person, Five kidsright Together.
She was a great mother to hiskids.
I love that he didn't have anylike maybe mama kind of negative
thing to say.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Right, right, even though like he had history.
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, but the only bad thing is that yeah, but the
only thing about it is that theonly thing that is is that
stopped her from doing anotherclassic album.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Did it the Hurt, you see the Hurt that he gave her.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
No, no, no, no.
I've never heard no new musicfrom her.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
After she had kids.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, she never had nothing else.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
She went through a lot.
She went through the tax.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Oh yeah, she went through her label and he broke
her heart.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, yeah, he broke her heart.
I don't know if that was it.
Maybe he had other things, butso I learned a lot and I want to
see.
I still want to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, I want to see the movie.
I want to see it.
I'm going to see it.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I'm going to see it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Because I actually a friend of mine, a friend
Sterling, he was just posted.
He said oh, never mind peoplesay about the actor, the movie
was good to me Okay, so we gotto agree.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
We're all going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yes, yeah, we're going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, I've been cheating, trying to watch
YouTube, but I'm going to go seeit.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, I like learning about him.
I just I got more and moreinterested and I said I'm in, I
want to go see, I want to go see.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
I think I'm interested more and see the
movie is what I see they saydepicts more about less of the
activism part of his life, butmore about the family the family
and the women and the kids.
So I really want to learn moreabout his activism because he
was a disruptor and I feel likeI'm a disruptor.
Okay, I'm a disruptor.
So that's what I'm attracted toabout his story.
(50:09):
It's a big charge.
Disruptor.
Yeah, you're not well liked.
Yeah, it's a lonely road.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, fbi tapping into your phone.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
I hope not.
I ain't disrupting that space.
Fbi is a mofo.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And Martin Luther King died.
They gave Corretta Scott Kingon his infidelity tapes.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Like he had all that.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, like he was cheating, and we want you to
listen to all that there.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
They have a piece of work, but Vicious.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
What happened to love , though, like I, just I want to
be in love.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
I've been told, you know that song, love, don't live
here.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
You know like.
It's not about a financial gain, it's not about what we're
getting.
Except when I look across thetable from you 50 years from now
, I still like you.
Yeah, Where's that Like?
Maybe I watch TV love stories.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
No, no, no, no, no.
Those exist.
Like they exist.
You have a few.
I forgot their names 42 yearold marriages and.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
That's the life.
I think maybe I've been alittle jaded about dad.
May not have been a cheater ormay have, but I think I grew up
in a house where I didn't seethat be a dynamic.
So in my mind as a child andgrown into a woman, I feel like
monogamy could exist.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
It can exist.
It can exist.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
It can exist if you know what I mean.
You know what they say, complywhat about you.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
You know I'm a falling line, falling line.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It could happen if you all just chill out.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Chill out Really back in, I believe.
I like to see that too.
I like to see couples growtogether and finish each other's
sentences, and so I like to seeit.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
On 70.
That's old school.
No I mean it could work.
It could work yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I mean, you get ready to get married?
Tell me how.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, I'm saying it's working for me and I'm telling
you, the only way it works to meis you got to avoid people and
places.
Okay, you know, you can'tcertain temptations.
You can't like my boys betrying to get me to go to DR.
No, I'm not going Okay.
I'm not going to go, and thenI'm not going to be the one
doing nothing.
The next thing you know, you'regoing to be laughing at me, or
y'all try to send chicks to me.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
You know, so it's like Discipline, yeah, I mean
discipline to stay away.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
You might, you know, you say you fall short, go there
and then next you know showtime.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
All right, all right, but that's why Put yourself in
no circumstance.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
So what makes you I think I asked you this before so
what makes you say hey, I'm notdoing that anymore?
Speaker 1 (52:45):
I'm my experience, man, it's like you know, just
just like how I quit alcohol islike I overstayed my welcome.
Okay, Okay, it's nothing elsefor me to get out of that.
I have my daughter and I'm notlike, I'm not unhappy, so it's
like you know, and the thingabout it, you didn't, you don't
even need to be unhappy to do it.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Men don't need it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
You don't need it, you know women need to be
unhappy to do it Frepoint.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
That's a lusty little trend,You're just a horse, you're just
a gang club.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
You're just a scarlet letter in the building.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
You're Jezebel.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
All right, so you're in closing.
In closing.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay, before we close , you know, I'd like to send a
resting piece to our friend, ourfriend.
We lost a good, a good friend,right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Sleeping.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Peaks.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Nigel, my boy, nigel man.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I mean good friend, I knew him forever.
Wow, I got different stories.
I remember one story I couldtell you about.
One day he said yo, my yo, comewith me to this party.
It's a day party.
You know, we got twisted, he'sgetting twisted, we wind up
going to three parties.
(53:56):
Three parties.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Not planned.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
No, he knew it but I didn't know it was this come.
You know he was going with himand he's just got wasted and
it's had time of our life.
I still remember we wind up thelast party we was at.
We wind up like in a golf club.
Golf, golf, golf club thing.
Wow, I was like I think it wason a flat bus, it was somewhere,
it was down there, but I thinklike it's somewhere over there.
(54:20):
Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
I've never seen this.
I'm like.
I'm like one person on my life.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
And I'm like the only thing I could say is that this
is a good brother and we lost areal one.
This one right here is like ithit real close.
You know what I mean?
I just speak every day, butit's always.
Every time we spoke was love,love, love.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I'm sending you love to your grief.
Yeah, your grief don't have atime limit, so I'm definitely
sending you love.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, you sleep in peace, nigel.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Sleep in peace.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
He has a GoFundMe too .
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yes, I mean because it's going to air this weekend,
so it's still going.
So the GoFundMe is on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Hold on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yes, he's from Flatbush.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Flatbush is definitely grieving because the
day it happened it just the postwouldn't stop.
So he was one of those.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
He's a major guy.
He's a major guy on the outsideand on this Flatbush.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Like you know, he's loved.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
No bad words about it .
Speaker 2 (55:23):
So the GoFundMe is Nigel N-I-G-E-L Gail, organized
by his daughter, Ariane Gail.
Ariane Gail, G-A-Y-L-E.
So go ahead and hit thatGoFundMe.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yes, man, even it's $5, $10, just do what you can,
something.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Help the family out.
You know, if you don't Together, we win.
Together we win, together wewin.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
So positive words going out.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yes, you know.
They say you know, if you knewbetter, you'd do better right.
Sometimes, you know, sometimesI don't really be the truth.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Thank you.
I was like hoping you agreewith my perspective.
I was like I don't want to tellthis man I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
No, I totally agree with that.
Yeah, you know, but you justtry to be the best version of
you, just be who you are andjust try to.
You know, take that to the nextlevel.
You know, and a lot of peopleout there.
You need to start Like, if youhave a skill you know, reach and
teach.
You know our children, not justonly your children reach and
(56:31):
teach, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
My clothes.
My clothes and remarks would bethat my life is about having
experiences, and this has been agreat one, and you had
mentioned that your friend hadjust passed away and it just
always makes me reflect on.
Life is short.
Make sure you have as manyexperiences as you can so you
have as many memories as you canand a lot of times we are
(56:56):
living to die and not living tolive.
So this has been a greatexperience and it reminds me
that I'm living, that lifelife's, for God is God.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
So okay.
I like that life is life andGod is.
God all the time.
So I just wanted to.
I found this quote this week.
It came to me like twice, so Isaid you know what?
I'm going to use it and closemy remarks.
So it goes like this is don'tignore your passions, don't
ignore your potential, don'tignore your purpose.
(57:29):
You are more than capable.
It is safe to try, and my, myexpert pastor used to say do it
scared.
So do it scared, you know.
And thanks for challenging meand my to revisit.
So we're going to hold eachother accountable to finish what
we started.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Right, I love it.
I'll try.
I'm going to hold youaccountable because you know I
got to each other accountable.
Yes, you're going to hold us.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yes, I'm going to circle back.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
I'm going to circle back, like okay, it's been 90
days, which I love to do it.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's been three months now.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
I think it's going to happen faster than I feel like
y'all going to really connectwith the catalyst that we need
the battery and our backs.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yes, yes, everyone.
Have a good week on purpose.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
And this is the your opinion.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
There's a matter which?
Speaker 1 (58:22):
episode no-transcript .
Welcome.
Welcome to the your opiniondoesn't matter podcast.
I am one of the hosts, mrLamont, and I'm here with my
co-host.
She's running and gunning.
She's in, she's out.
She's going forever be myco-host, even in spirit.
(00:22):
Shirley, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good.
We have a special guest.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We got a guest.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Can you tell the people who you are and what
brand you here to tell everybodyabout Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I am Kia.
I label myself as anempowerment tour.
I also am the owner ofperfectly floor tease, which is
an apparel brand that is aboutmaking sure we have fashion that
speaks, and I want my brand tobe able to send a message and
for you to read what thestatement say and have a
(01:01):
conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I got on one of her teas.
I was gifted, gifted so I goton.
So this is the name of your.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, perfectly floor tease.
But perfectly floor is aremnant of what the brand is
about, the entire mantra.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, okay, okay.
So, nakea, yes.
So how did you come up with thename?
Perfectly flawed.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Great question.
I came up with the name becauseI felt like people, the culture
, men, women are kind of walkingaround with masks on not being
themselves, pretending to beokay and not okay.
So I was kind of going throughthat as a part of my story at
one point in my life, wearing amask, not okay and then I
decided you know what perfectlyflawed.
(01:44):
Why don't we start somethingthat speaks to imperfection?
You know, we have a lot ofthings in the world talking
about perfection and how to beall together, but what happens
if you're not together?
How do you still be okay?
So that's what essentiallybirthed the brand, that's the
fabric that wove it and createdit.
That those feelings.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, any any one particular like situation that
may do say, hey, I'm flawed andit's, and it's okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
As an independent nurturer.
That's code for single mom.
I have been doing that for manyyears but, I, like the same
better than single momindependent nurtures.
With the role I was in and itwas, it was a heavy roll.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What is an independent nurturer?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Single mother independently nurturing her
child, without any co-parents.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's new.
I never heard that one.
I made it up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh, okay, I designed the name.
I'm big into words, as you cansee.
That's my brand is about words,okay.
So my personality is aboutwords.
The birds matter, okay.
So I needed to have somethingthat felt different than single
mother.
It just sounds so done trot andlike single mama.
No, okay, I'm an independentnurturing nurturing a human
(02:59):
being to be great and that'swhat's my role.
But it was a heavy role, right,it was a taxing role, not
having co-parents and it was alot.
So I put on a mask a lot ofdays and was like, okay, I put a
mask for my child.
It seemed okay, but I was notokay.
So I began to start therapy.
Actually, that's whatcatapulted me into a great space
to start the brand starttherapy.
(03:22):
Debunk the myth that therapy isnot for black people, because
it is and that's not a journey.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So yeah, that's not a journey.
Therapy is therapeutic.
No one no one, so I pulled you,I pulled you.
I never heard that independentnurturing.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I just thought of it like some years ago, when
my son was like 14 or 15.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So did you have him young or Not?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
too young.
I would say it was like early,late twenties.
Okay, late twenties yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, it's funny, me and Lamont had a conversation
earlier about nurture.
I was telling him that I feellike I and not to get away from
your t-shirt but I didn't feellike a nurture.
I felt like as a single mom.
Young, I was 16.
I felt like we were goingthrough survival.
So to hear you say nurture.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't think.
I became a nurturer until later, so yeah, I think, but do you
really feel like that?
I think you're always nurturing, no matter what you're going
through.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, but but like we're two different ages, I
don't think I didn't know what Iwas doing at 16.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure me out.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I just want to get some Pampers and some milk and
oh, now you got to go to school,that's what they say at five.
So it was like two differentworlds.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But I mean, I think that an independent nurturer.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I think I champion you in the same way.
I don't think I've always beena nurturer.
My son and myself we sort ofgrew up together, so he's grew
up in my imperfections, and soone of the things I started
before perfectly for was at-shirt company called kids
operations, and it was with myson and it was a way, as I was
parents and to say I don't needa baby sitter and I could still
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follow my passion.
So I was making t-shirts forkids at the time, okay, and my
son was like my top model.
That was circa maybe 15 yearsago, but that's kind of what
really kind of jumpstarted me,just being interested in words
and t-shirts, okay, and thenmorphed into something different
when perfectly for T started.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So you said words do matter, mm?
Hmm, because growing up it waslike six and so on.
I break my bones and wordsnever hurt me.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But words do hurt.
I only learned that from mychild.
Actually my child was aboutseven, okay, and we say that
sang that nursery rhyme Six andso on.
I break my bones.
But one day my son came to meand said no, but words do.
No, he said words do hurt, mommy, and I said so.
You know, like I said, my son,like I said, but my son has been
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a catapult of me starting andgrowing and being on a beautiful
journey.
In some amazing ways Because Ithought of it the same way Six
and so on, I break my bones, Ibreak my bones.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, we made it not hurt, right, but it did hurt but
he said to me it does hurt, mm.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Hmm, words do hurt.
It made me look at it from adifferent lens.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So you started watching what you were saying.
Definitely, I don't always getit right and I still don't
always get it right, but he hadjust really minded my words.
Therapy has taught me how toreframe my words, because words
do matter.
What you say tends to manifest,so no, it's gonna say so.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Your therapy was for for yourself, Definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What did you have to?
What did you learn aboutyourself?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh my gosh, I learned that I overthink.
I learned that I'm flawed.
I learned that you know, I'm agreat mom.
Anyway, although I may notthink some days I'm great, I
learned so much.
I'm still learning.
I think therapy is a foreverlearning thing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So I don't think that it ever stops.
You ever stopped learning aboutyourself, so I'm still growing.
I still go to therapy.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, all right.
So now words hurt.
Your son just hit you with thewords hurt and words affirm.
Let's not just say that, yes,that part right Words are fun,
Words hurt, and words are fun.
And what said what?
What did you?
What made you?
When they say, hey, I'm gonnaput this on a power, just
everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
when you walk, you see people with shirts or
clothes on and you're staring atthat clothes.
You're reading their clothes.
Right, I thought about just mypersonality.
I'm an Amber, so sometimes Iwant to talk.
Sometimes I don't stopunpacking.
So that means extroverted andI'm charged by people and
sometimes I'm very introvertedand I need to go with them.
Okay, so I'm both, I'm not justone.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So it's a combination Okay, is that your word, or is?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
it.
That's a real.
That's a real.
Yeah, that's a real term.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Okay, no, I'm not, no , no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't make them on a but that's a real term.
Amber, yes, amber, amber.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, so I feel like if the introvert doesn't want to
speak, their fashion can speakfor them and to them.
Okay, and that's what I wantedto do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So most people have the idea in their head and it
never like they don't do thework.
What made you do the work?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I'm still doing the work.
Okay, so I just it, just.
I my the better thing is whatmade me?
The better question may be whatmade me start?
And it was that space offeeling like I don't see what I
want, so I'm going to createwhat I want, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
All right, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
How long you had this business.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So I want to say at least 10 years, but really I
want to say most of those yearsit was a hobby because I didn't
have business systems and reallylike great stuff.
So it was a lot of visions, alot of just, you know, word of
mouth kind of thing.
But now I think in the lastcouple of years I've been taking
it a lot more seriously and myLLC some years ago.
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So I wasn't doing that at firstI was just kind of like hammer
selling my t-shirts at the trunk, kind of thing, but I started
getting official.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,
nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So how do you get yourself out there?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I'm still slow walking.
I'm really still on socialmedia platforms, which is
Instagram.
That's big platforms.
I'm dabbling with TikTok alittle bit.
I'm not on there as much, but mycommunity is really on
Instagram and my brand is aboutmore than just selling a t-shirt
.
Like I said, I'm an empowerment, or so I'm trying to create
community on my social media.
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So, just more than you justclicking to say, hey, I want a
t-shirt, we're really havingconversations, dialogue.
We're talking all things mentalhealth.
We're talking what could makeyou laugh, what could make you
cry.
How do we win together?
We win is one of our mantras.
So it's bigger than just youbuying a shirt for me.
It's really about you becominga part of my community.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So I see you have together, we win.
Yes, what was the inspirationbehind that?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Because I feel like together we really do win.
I think as a community AfricanAmerican community we always the
metaphors with crabs and abarrel or women that we can't
get along or we saw eyeing, oryou know checking people.
I feel like we could really winif we take all of that out and
say, hey, you got something Icould give, I got something you
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can give.
We winning right now together,right now.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right, right, collaborating on the spot.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's winning, so I believe in the win.
Okay, okay, and well, wealready got to perfectly floor
it.
Yes, and what?
What are the statements youhave?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Love is dope Okay, it's one.
Love is another.
Okay, I have no mask, no makeup, no flaws.
It's another.
Okay, no weapon formed againstme, but that's the Bible.
So that don't really belong tome, but I put it on the T-shirt.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, right Right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's the big lead that don't belong to me.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Specifically, god about to sue you.
Dope is a lifestyle, so everystatement is like a fabric and
tapestry of my own personalstory.
Okay, so when you wear it, youembrace that.
It becomes your story.
That's really the goal and themission, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, so when you so, you get the idea right.
So now you have to mess withfonts.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't do that part.
You don't know, I'm a creative,so I'm just like this is what I
want.
I got a people on my team likea designer, so I this is my
vision.
You make it come, come to life.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So your your logo right, so the people your logo.
Pf Perfectly floor, that's itso you made up your own logo, so
you did it, or you just gave itto me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I gave it to my designer to say, hey, I want
this is what the look I want.
I want it to look flawed, Iwant the look to look rough.
So I just give them some ideas,some light ideas.
We've been working together solong that it's always a win.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, so that's your your people, yes, your tea
people yes, all right All rightAll right.
When did t-shirts get big Cause?
All of a sudden they juststarted popping up and I shoulda
did my research.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But Like what you been doing them for a while,
that's the thing I got stuck.
So that's like how long ago wasthat?
So my son was doing it Rightand I was like at least 10, 15
years ago, right, right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So he then he went to the military.
Then I did my thing and then Ijust got stagnant.
And it's funny because I had2014,.
My friend asked me to be in apop-up shop and I did everything
.
I did all the platforms and Igot the bags.
I got everything.
Everybody was coming to mytable.
(12:30):
So one of the girls took me tothe side.
She said you know, I camestraight to your table cause you
got it together, and then Inever Wow so that wasn't
motivating enough to keep going.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What got in your way?
It was life.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And procrastination.
That's real.
What was it?
It?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
was just one item.
What was it?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I had a few.
I ain't trading more thanbuying a little bike seat.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No more about that.
I don't want to say what thedays are.
I got to buy it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But it's funny because it's a daily in my head.
So, like they always say, if itkeeps coming back, then it's
for you, but it's just it'ssheer laziness.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Cause you have a thing about partnering with
somebody or like doing likeproject based, maybe not like a
full line, but like this monthor May we pop up every year, so
it starts taxing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I thought about it, but I don't want to.
I'm not confrontational.
I don't same thing with thewomen, can't get along.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't want to get my idea.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You want to be in a safe place where somebody's not
stealing bike.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But I was listening to Issa Radio the day about like
letting people in this personcould do this, let them do it
that or whatever.
That's one of the people that Ilook up to.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, I love this.
I'm rooting for everybody black, just like that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So okay, so yeah, he makes your font, so you just
have the creative and he yeah,so we're a team.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So that's, he's a part of my team, so he does the
graphic, the font.
I give the idea, this is theword I'm looking for, and he
flips it back and say this iswhat we're gonna do, this is
what we're gonna go with, and Iyes or no.
So I'm the yes or no at the end.
But ultimately he's my graphicdesigner.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So I ask so what floor made you say, hey, if
there is one, hey, I wanna dothis.
Or a floor you struggled with?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Oh, man, a floor that I struggled with is
overthinking.
Okay, overthinking I can.
It could be to the point whereI overthink and talk myself out
of something.
So I talk myself out of juststarting, or I just overthinking
, and it just becomes race andthoughts which then distract you
.
So that's not my struggle withoverthinking.
I overthink this parking spacebefore I got here Like oh my God
(14:47):
, and the parking space is open.
I'm like I'm gonna get in.
So yeah, overthinking issomething that I've been on the
journey, trying to figure out.
I haven't, you know, masteredit, but I do overthink.
So that's, I would say, ifthat's a floor, that's one of
mine.
Okay, all right all right.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What does the shirt say?
Together we win, Together wewin yes, yeah, I could say
that's a floor of mine, BecauseBecause you try, you know you
would want to win with somebody.
Then it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, that's one thing too, and I see you know,
so you get disappointed in.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, you ruin the relationship.
Oh wow, yes, you ruin therelationship, you know, and you
have good intentions, but theother person could fall on the
bad end of your intentions butlike, and then I see those
arguments but you had yourintentions was for us to win,
and then it does fall as well.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That happened to me a couple of times.
Yeah, that can happen.
That's a true thing that goeson every day.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So how do you get?
Over that Like you, you, you,you, you, you, you.
It's hard to get over it,especially the person is dealing
with it because they're goingto keep on there with reminding
you.
But then it's like, even thoughyou have a pure heart, you be
like listen, I'm doing this forus, I want us, we can do it.
And then if it don't, oncepeople put a time in and the
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money in, then then then you owethem, you owe them blood.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So the time you can't get back, Right, but then it's
like they're not going to have.
They don't have that same kindof thought that together we win.
You have to bring that to theirattention.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I feel like you know, when I hear you talk about
it, it sounds like you'retalking about alignment and it's
it's hard to sometimes knowwhether you're lying.
I think prayer you know I'm apraying woman, so I think
definitely praying first to seeif this is the alignment,
because sometimes I think youknow we could be on the same
page but not on the same page.
But you're saying like I mighthave this idea.
You've seen, like your Ford,I've worked into that a lot and
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as a creative it's frustrating.
Because it's like I thought youwere then Right.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Well, you're not as hungry as I am.
Not only hungry, because theysee you and then they see the
work and it's like you know,it's hard finding people that
really love your baby.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, but then your vision.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But the thing about it is they're not going to love
it more than you are, right, sothey're not going to they be
like it's yours.
I'm just here for the ride,right?
So then you know, it's likethat's when it's like contracts
and it's together we win.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It's not as simple as it sounds.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Together, you win Even.
Maybe you got a better chancewith your family, maybe not even
your family but I say to mystranger so you better off
together.
We win by paying people.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I want to say something too Far as support.
Who's like your biggestsupporter Is like.
Do you have like returningcustomers?
Great question.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I guess, support from people that I don't know more
than people that I do know, wow,yeah, yeah, that's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So I say it's better to pay people, people that you
know they are going to come.
I think they will come when,like the, you know, like the
party's already started.
You know what I'm saying nextto you, you know when it blows
up, right.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh they there.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They there now I know , but before that, they just
want to see you grow.
But they're not going to,they're going to break.
You know they don't want to.
You know, jump into that, youknow double that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Dispectators though, so I agree with you.
But I want to say somethinglike what's your price point?
Like the sweatshirt, sosweatshirts can run.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thank, you, by the way.
Oh, you're welcome.
So sweatshirts are anywherefrom like 45 to 55, depending on
the fit's glitter.
I do puff print.
Okay, we do embroidery.
So when we do specifications,the price kind of changes just
because it's like one of a kindtype of thing and we put some
special okay into it.
T-shirts are 27.
Typically 27.
(18:37):
If I do something like fancywe'll raise the price a little
bit, but typically that's theprice, so it's pretty reasonable
.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Nice price point.
But what do you say when?
Excuse me, you have a niceprice point, I think you're fair
.
Now you got people with yourblack owned right.
Yes, and between you and Gucci.
I don't think Gucci, but like,how do you feel?
Like you feel about us as apeople going to spend with the
(19:09):
Europeans than try to build usup?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel like people are more apt to go outside and
spend whatever the price pointis, with no question, but I feel
like sometimes you do deal withan audience of black people
that are, like you know afinesse, like okay, why can't I
get this for 30?
, why can't I get it for 20?
, but you don't go on Gucci orLouis Vuitton.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Exactly, you gotta do them down.
How does that make you feel asa designer, as a, you know, a
small business owner?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I think I had to grow in that area before it used to
really anger me, you know.
But now I'm at this point likeyou're not my audience If you
got to worry about lowering myprice, you really not my
audience.
So all money is not good moneyis what I've learned.
Oh yeah, so I'm not.
I don't need your money, Right,If that's the type of energy
you bring in to buy it.
I like people.
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That's just like I like it.
What's the cash at?
What's?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
how about pay, for example?
Yeah, they want you to lure itto the company.
Yes, when it comes to the wholebunch and it's not that I don't
give people.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
As you can see, I give or I give back.
So I'm not wanting to like that.
But if you have to like, do awhole lot of questioning as to
then I might not be youraudience.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You might not be my audience and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
So, but I had to get there.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Okay, you know I wasn't always there, right, so
come on, get there.
So what did you do in thebeginning of your business that
you were like it's not workingfor me?
And then you kind of like Atthe shift or something Right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Packaging.
I'm big on aesthetics, so Ilike things very beautiful.
Okay, so, as I first started, Iwas spending a lot of time on
the bow, the sticker theprettiness the thank you cards,
the this, the that, the stickerson the refrigerator, all that
came with your package, right,and it necessarily wasn't in my
favor.
You know, sometimes it was moreexpensive than it, than what
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you purchased.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But doesn't that come with branding and putting
yourself off?
I?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
think it was good at first, but as I began to grow it
wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So, when I would get orders it wasn't cost effective.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's the part that's hard as a business owner,
because some of the perks thatyou have when you want a smaller
scale, right, you want to keep,but as you start scaling up you
can't Right.
Okay, all right.
I agree so it hurts me when Ilike even now, sometimes, I'll
you know, when we package stufffor people, it's not as
exquisite as it used to be, askind of we, simple, but it's
(21:27):
still pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But when people tell me like, oh, I just threw the
business card away, oh, I justthrew the thing, I just threw
the stick at my sister she justbrought something.
I was so excited Like you gotmy box.
She was like, yeah, through thecard and garbage.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I was like are business cards still a thing now
?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They are people.
What's a have, Because peopleare acts but honestly I hate it
when they acts too.
But I was just at an eventWe've been doing, like the dot
thing and the hello and thebling.
I think those are all cool, butnow that I've been to that
event I don't know where thosepeople are in my contact Right
right.
Because they formulate in yourcontact.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But I guess it's still worse because the first
thing they gonna act is for it.
When you don't have it, youfeel like ah.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I feel like such an idiot and it's not that
expensive either.
Yeah, I got the dot.
I'm gonna look into from thisevent.
I went to yesterday or Thursdaywomen's day.
For women's day Many people hadthe dot card.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Happy international.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Thank you.
Same to you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So people just scan it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
So I think I have to come up with a system.
Ok, and maybe take a picture ofwho you were before.
I scanned that into my phone,because now I don't remember.
Like, have these people upthere.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Have you ever thrown your shirt to a celebrity?
No, I've never done that ever.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I got out of thinking like Speaking of
inter-existence.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Thank you, Because I'm like who want it, you should
have it and you should have aunisex on it all the time.
But I'm just giving it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's a good thing.
Thank you for coming togetherwith me when I need it.
For it, yes free game.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Just have something like in a large.
You know what I mean?
Unisex or with a red or evenneon, whatever, like, something
like this just happened.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I never thought of that Like so, I never even
really thought of a celebrity.
I've just been local to regularpeople.
T-shirts with green bin.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But even we're a little.
I remember wearing Sesame Placet-shirts.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
T-shirts always are Well I remember even learning
about Supreme, a little bit likedoing my research, as I was
learning about t-shirts and Allthose companies and Babe and you
know, my son educated me.
He was like Babe.
I think they threw Biggie ashirt.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And a Skotty soda and they became big.
Ok, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I had a shirt line before too years ago.
Wow, it was old school slang.
They used to have differentslangs on different shirts.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But yeah but I you want me to bring it back, not
really.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't know that's the thing is going on.
It doesn't come to mind once ina while.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, people telling me.
But it's like I learned so mucheven from watching Shark Tank
that you have almost that thingSKUs too much.
I have like 10 to 20 of them.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like different slangs .
I think I had too many too.
I think I have too many I needto stick to three and push it If
I come back with it, but I'llcome back Right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, like so spread.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It'll be that one catchy one, yeah, the one that
I'm not sharing right now.
I'll bring it back when youbring yours out All right, so
we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yes, yes, all right.
And we could all do a pop up.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'll pop up my game.
That's what I'm really pushing.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think that's what we struggle with.
I love that Because I feel likewhen we go to dinner or my
family functions.
I'm the one that doesn't likewhen people are to the side
talking, so I like a game thatbrings everybody together.
We're getting to learn eachother.
So is it dicey, what kind ofquestions.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes, it's different topics Like, um, we have sex and
lies.
That's a good one.
That's a very good one.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
We have a couple's game.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, it's a group game .
It's a game and it has yourfavorite thing that you all
indulge with earlier.
You can play it, lose it, takeshots.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Let's talk about drinks.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm talking about alcoholic beverages.
These ladies are messing withmy sobriety right now.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Some tequila, some tequila, loosing up the, but I'm
fighting the power.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Now I'm good, I'm two years, no drink.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, so the game is great.
The game is great.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Name it the game again.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Your opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Act the name of the show.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You can get it at wwwyodmcom, and what's your
website for yours?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So I don't have a website, so you can follow me on
Instagram, which ispfismfranktsts.
Also on Facebook, perfectly,floor T spelled out.
And on TikTok it's pfts.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right.
So your slogan, your missionstatement you have one of those?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, it's.
My slogan is fashion thatspeaks to you, for you and for
you OK, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And what do you want to say to the people?
Oh wow, Regarding your tees.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I want to say that everybody has a story.
Everybody has some sort ofchapter, story, history that is
woven into their lives.
So we want you to.
I love for you to use myt-shirt to tell your story.
It's some saying that I know Imust have.
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Speaker 1 (27:10):
So I've been hearing some reviews of the Bob Marley
movie and one protest maybeanother slight protest is when
they saying the lead actor who'splaying Bob Marley, he's from
England and a lot of Jamaicansis not happy with that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Here's the thing One of the brothers sold the rights
to the studio so they have fullreign on who plays.
I mean, that's their money.
He sold the rights.
I mean the brother sold therights to the movie company that
was sponsoring the film, sothey're going to put in the
(27:57):
actor that they feel that'sgoing to portray Bob Marley or a
respectable actor.
And the thing is with the movie.
When I was reading I did someresearch.
Some of the musicians were likegrandkids and kids of the
original whalers or people thatwere participated.
(28:17):
So and then they brought moneyinto Jamaica.
They used Jamaicans, but thething is, people that were
non-Jamaican.
There's a little description inthe Jamaicans and with the
people that was forcing.
It was a little but you had tobe really listening to it, but I
learned a lot.
I didn't know A few things.
I did not know about Bob Marley.
I did not know Bob Marley's dadwas white.
(28:39):
I didn't know he had so manykids.
While I was doing some research, he was doing a lot of good.
I saw what he was doing, butonce again, once we start
getting together as a people,that upsets the other people and
(29:01):
that's what he was doing and Ilearned about Siaga and the two
prime ministers, or whatever thecase may be, there were odds.
One was working with here andthe other one was trying to
bring some social change andjustice.
And then I really listened tothe music.
The music was like all I knowfrom back then was One Love.
(29:23):
That's all I know.
That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And what's that?
Before that, I actually beenlistening to the music.
One Woman, no oh One.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no One, no Cry, I promise you.
I do know that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I promiseyou Any Y'all know a good five
Right, Come on now.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Don't do Bob Marley's dad All right.
So let's say One Woman.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
No Cry.
One Love, that's two.
Come on, give me a three.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I didn't know.
The third thing I didn't knowthe assassination on his family,
the time yeah, that was thefirst one.
That's what I just watched thedocumentary on the first one.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh, no, I mean I watched the documentary on his.
Oh, the first documentary.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Ok, yeah, that was crazy how no one died and the
concert what it represented, andthen he actually left Jamaica.
Because here I am trying tochange for you guys and you guys
are running up in my house.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I keep going for trade.
So where did he go?
He went to England, went toEngland.
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
He went to England and that's it.
And the kids, some kids.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, and you know.
So what else was interesting?
His wife, she knew him withdifferent women and she was so I
don't know.
I'm not going to say she was OKwith it, Right, she didn't put
up a fuss with it and sheactually she was like you know.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And she benefited.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
She to her, her soul.
She probably didn't benefit,Maybe financially, but I heard
that there would be some timesLike there were some times that
like, say, who have women in hisroom and like stayed up, get a
hostile.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And she'll call her.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
She'll call her.
And she'll come in and get themout.
Wow, Because she just knew itwas an arrangement.
At this point to me it's likeyou know, you know.
I mean I don't know if it wasan arrangement.
I mean, if she stayed, it's anarrangement.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We are ranging things , I mean she went out there and
did her thing too Well.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
that's what I saw in the documentary that she was
pregnant.
I guess Bob Marley wastraveling and then she shared
that she was having a baby.
I don't know which child it was.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, I didn't think she had one baby, she had an
extra finger Right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And she said it was like the father.
The father had this comes fromher father.
And then Bob Marley went on atour and seen the father and
notice he ain't had an extrafinger.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And came back and was like what girl you tell me how
Right.
But the thing is, you have torealize, at that point she had
accepted about one or two of his.
You got messy when she did it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Why is it the same thing?
You know why that is.
Why are you getting?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
messy when she did it , but women is not supposed to
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh, here we go, there we go, so do men.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Welcome back to me.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, I think I get why he might have been a part of
it, because it is religion andthey in his religion.
I understand that they can havemultiple women.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Right, but I mean bigger than that.
This in general, okay, ingeneral men does men do it
because you know it's no realmethod to the madness, but when
y'all do it it's vicious.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh, it's a level of like.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I like you a lot In order for y'all to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean we had this conversation before when we're
more invested, when we cheat.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Hmm, which mean?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
we have to like you.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Okay, you know, we're not going to, we're not going
to cheat.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
We're not going to randomly cheat.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yes, okay, even if y'all was the you know like even
if those drinks would pushy'all to do it as quick as men,
this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
He you know what I realize and you have to know
your man like constantly askinghim if he was married, he wasn't
saying yes or no, he likedwomen.
You know a lot of women.
You know he had the hey.
Yeah, let's get to this.
So the Damien, not Damien'smother, damien Mollie, that
(33:05):
Cindy's, I don't see.
I forgot her last name and nostarts with a, b.
She was having an issue alsoabout she, the timeline she was
in his life.
You don't get to be part of thestory as a side chick, right
Like, and then I had.
I was like, oh, that was soclose, he was part of her life
and you're a side chick.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You don't ride the limo at the.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You don't ride the limo, you, you you get the
benefit and then he didn't havea will which leaves you open to
all types of probate.
You go to probate when youdon't have it together.
He should have had one, asegway's 30 million.
She, she was good.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
She, she divided it, his kids got she that was nice,
yeah, yeah, I mean she was well,she was already.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Those kids were in her house.
Oh, right, okay, okay, butstill she could have been, like
she could have.
But honestly, what likereciprocity, like we talked
about before, like where wouldyou go?
Those are his kids you knowlike you.
You got a nice chunk.
You know you living in Ghana.
He adopted your first daughter.
He accepted your, your kid inbetween.
But the thing with him is heloved freely.
(34:14):
So I wanted to ask the question, right.
Whitman General question.
He liked what he liked and hefelt like it was okay to sleep
with these women and make babieswith them.
I'm protected.
I mean, does he get a passcause he's rich?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Oh and no, I don't know.
My stance is a little different.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And mine is too.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Like I don't like to share.
I was only child, so Sharon isnot camera for me.
No, no, no, my child Listen.
But I just feel like I believein a covenant of being committed
to relationships.
So I don't really understandhaving multiple people and me
being okay with it.
But you know, to each his ownRight.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
And I'm not saying she was okay with it, but you
got to realize with men it's allabout control.
I'm sure he has a wife.
Women are going to get.
We're like as a wife I wouldlook at him guy like wow he's
looking, but that doesn't mean Ihave to go with him Right.
Right, like when men think it'slike so visual, like damn.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I will have you know like they done, picture it all
Right, she can give me head justthat and the third, like what,
lamar, this question is for you?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
What makes you say, hey, it's just going to be in
here and I don't have to, Idon't have to act out on it?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Oh, for me, you know I changed you know.
I mean I'm engaged, going toget married Probably, hopefully,
this year.
I've been staying out for thelast two years.
Okay, but um so,congratulations Thank you.
You just got to come to theconclusion, like, I've been
there, done that, you must havea lot of experience already.
So it's like you know why, whynow?
(36:04):
And then also, what's the?
What's the risk I'm taking,meaning that I could lose my
family, you know?
I mean like is it really, youknow, just go sleeping with her
and then lose?
Then things can come back and Iget caught.
No, no, no, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You got to the ends, got to justify the means.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
But what if the guy come in the relationship and
like, listen, I'm just alwaysgoing to have a taste for other
women.
Yeah, Women that.
Accept that.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Let me ask you all questions so I'm like I got to
get to the root.
Then my, my thing is like thewhy you don't have to, you don't
have to.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Why him?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, like I feel like to me, a man that needs a
multitude of women needs to dosome shadow work and some
therapy to find out why do youneed, what's your mommy issue,
what's your mommy wound?
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
do you need?
Why got to be a mommy issue?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I mean I, I, that doesn't necessarily have to be
it could be right, but I justfeel like, why do you need
what's what's driving youneeding more than one what's
driving?
I think I have some friends islike that and I think it could
be an addiction.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It could be an addiction, it could be like
something these starters, like afire that's inside of them that
they just see something that,oh wow, nice, I like it, I want
it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But now it's like you know, y'all saying y'all have
standards and you know, wouldy'all if you had an option
dealing with a you have afaithful broke man, he got a 10%
chance of cheating on you 10%.
Or you or you dealing with aman who's like 75% chance he's
going to cheat on you, but he'srich.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I don't want no chance.
I don't want to deal with nochance, I want you.
I want you to have some selfcontrol because I have to have
self control.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
But if you have to pick a bar after work.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I have control when I see a nice looking doctor or
pass me or he first with me.
I have to have self control.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
So I want you to have the same level of self control.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, holdon, hold on we we.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
We visit this topic already, oh, yeah, I think we go
here all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, but no you said when you go into a bar, right,
oh, here we go.
When you go into a bar, yousaid you, what did you?
What's the words you just used?
Self control.
Self control Meaning what?
How far would this control go?
Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm just talking about.
We're talking about marriage,yeah, and commitment and
relationships.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
No, no, don't run from this you go into the bar.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He said you don't rise, you go into a bar.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
This question is going to be for you too.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
OK when we go into a bar, I have to take a shot of my
liquor.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yes, go, take a shot.
You know, take a shot of yourliquor.
He said do what you got to do,because you're the answer to
this.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I got you OK, so now here's the question.
Like you know, you saying that,what's the words you used?
Again, self control.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Self control right so what is it?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What is OK?
When is it out of your control?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
At what point when I take it out of my imagination.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, so hold on.
The gentleman is talking to you.
And then what?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like, if his chest looks good, I'm already on top
of his chest in my mind right.
Like, just like you, like you,like you, men.
Visualize.
Sorry, we visualize also, Don'tthink we just be like, oh he's
cute.
No, we done so you have sex inour mind.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
So hold on, nakeah, nakeah, I'm asking you a
question when you have a man, doyou have sex in your mind?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
when you, when you're going out with your girl to the
bar and your man is at home,probably with the kids,
Hypothetically I think I'm awhat they call that, like
something sapient, like I'mattracted to not just the
physical, to intellect, for meas first.
So I don't necessarily look andbe like he, fine, I'm looking
at what I'm listening, what'scoming out of my head, so that's
(39:31):
more attractive and that mightsend me into a bow.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So hold on, it's a name to me, so it sounds like
there is a little bit ofweakness in your, your little
swagger.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh, we all fall short .
A flawed, oh shoot.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And if you all fall short, why do you want this
perfect man?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
No, I don't want a perfect man.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
What's a perfect man?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You said you don't want your man to cheat at all.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I would like him not to cheat that doesn't make him
perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
If he's monogamous, he's just monogamous.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, I think that's what she is.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't put this on me.
You said, you're not giving a10.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And in the 75, I'm like I would like it to be none
but you said but we're talkingabout I'm generalizing Bob
Marley, like what was it likewith him?
Obviously it was like I likewhat I see and I'm going to get.
It was seven kids in right.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Whatever the number is, it's a lot of.
It's a lot of child's mothersthere.
You know what I mean, right,and there's just so much that
comes with messing with thatwhole unprotected sex thing.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Look at your boy, nick Cannon.
He has like 11, 12 kids rightnow, man, but there's these
women.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
No, we don't even know what.
But I would hope he, like in aperfect world, like get some
gynecologist tests and seewhat's going on with these women
.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like it's herpes.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
That's forever right HPV.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
HPV AIDS.
It's HPV.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's one of the mother, things that come with
sexual transmittance.
It's a sexual yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
So like.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But I think that people always just talk about.
They don't talk about theunprotected sex and the risks.
I think, even as we're in 2024,I think people are still
wilding out and, oh, I know, Iknow people.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I know people.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But people still, on the other hand, are getting
sexual transmittance, aregetting AIDS.
You know all that stuff isstill happening.
So I think it's important for aman to think, or a woman to
think about when I'm steppingout, the risk that can be
happening, that and I got.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
We had discussion before.
Sex is spiritual.
You just take on all typesUnprotected even if it's not
unprotected, protected.
Won't you let somebody insideof you?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, but so you say the spiritual to y'all.
So what is it to men?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Physical.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Because you say when he's in.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
That's all you did.
He's in.
Jacqueline, I've had thisconversation with you before
it's inward, we're inward, andthat's why you guys get so upset
because we're literally lettingsomebody inside of us.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So you're like I'm going to say the dumping grounds
.
Basically, Now, I'm not thedumping grounds.
You're the one that that's whenwe said something before.
You said no, that's OK thedumping grounds.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
He said that he said he knows when.
What do you say?
Which was wild so far in mytest and text week?
One of the shows he's like yobeing with a corpse is wild as
sex.
He said that some women youwould feel like a corpse.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because you feel like you're not.
It's a feeling You're not,they're not in it.
They're not.
No, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
It's like they are Dumping grounds, which is what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
The dumping grounds is like.
They're like a corpse, Meaninglike See young ladies.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The older you are, the older you get, the less
vibrant you are.
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
OK.
So they need Viagra for women,like the energy level is low, no
, he's talking about elasticity,right.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, like they not doing enough cables.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
They not doing something, they not eating
enough broccoli?
I don't know?
Ok, it's not juicy, I mean, I'mjust I'm trying to understand
what you're saying I'll jump inthe pocket.
It's dry.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
It's dry the piece of dry thing, if you compare.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
If you compare an older woman to a younger woman,
the man is always going to wantto go with the younger woman.
Because, Because it's adifferent feeling.
It's a different feeling andthe younger woman is not going
to be on that.
I've been there, done that andall of this, and the older woman
, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
But you're older men.
Like you guys lose energy.
Not to say I'm not, I'm not.
You guys lose energy as well,but it's not about energy.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
25 years and 35 years , I hear giving us it's not,
it's not, it's not, it's not,it's not an energy thing, it's
not an energy thing.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
It's an energy thing for you guys too.
So what is it then?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's a.
It's a.
Okay.
This is new to her.
It's not a.
Been there, done that.
It's like-.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
So you mean she's more open to do different things
?
Like doing it in a car, doingit on a chandelier swinging it
on a chandelier.
That type of thing.
Is that what you mean?
She's more fun.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
She has less mileage on her.
Wow, you know you go to a lot,you don't oh?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
you mean she's wait?
Wow, no, don't get it twisted.
You got younger women that gotmore mileage.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
That's what I'm saying.
They been out there.
I mean, it's like you knowshe's more like a.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know, like with the, the, the, the caramie, that
could get like a, you know,200,000 miles on it, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Wow, willing it back in right, it's car metaphor okay
, oh shit, I'm trying to stayShit, I don't know, let me check
.
Take my car to the shop.
Wait you talking, I gotta makesure I'm straight.
Yeah, baby, oh man, but I-.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I learned a lot about him, you know, and made me want
to listen to his music.
But I was listening to JamaicanDJ the other day and he was
just saying like how much of RobBonny's songs do the DJ?
Did Jamaican DJs play at aparty?
Not much, no.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Probably on the older set.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
And right, even in the older sets.
And do you think Bob Marleywould be happy with today's
radio music?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
No, no, it's tri-.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I'm not gonna say it's tri-ass and I'm becoming
for me, but what?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
he's saying he was more of an activist as well as a
singer.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Exactly, exactly All of that stuff and talking about
like fighting your man and this,that and that, that wasn't his
music.
His music was.
If you listen to it, it's more,you know conscious more Right
Right Activism.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's music.
Man, that's some real goodstuff right there, man.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, music.
I was just saying music isgreat for my own soul, so Right.
And also music can be great for, like sometimes, when I'm in
the space of saying, you know,I'm not trying to be in a
relationship and I'm trying tofall back Some music I can't
listen to, I'm like, oh you knowwhat, that might not, that
(46:06):
might take me to a place.
Right so music has a huge power.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, it could torture you too.
It could torture you Exactly.
It happened to me before.
Exactly, I ain't gonna say thesong, but it happened to me.
Like yo, this thing is not.
I don't like this song.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Some songs take you back somewhere.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah they're too nostalgic.
Some songs I'm like.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I don't even want that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or the person Right this isn'ta good place.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
This is a good time to create.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
This is a nice area of my life right here.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
No, yes please don't put this in the place.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
And music too is especially in.
I mean, go to parties, go tothese brunches, start drinking
and music to sound.
I like music, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Like you know, I mean , contrary to what others might
think, victoria Monet is myaffirmation on my mama.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I know she told them all sex and some of the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
But you know, I look fly, I look good.
That part of the lyrics, that'smy motivation, that's my
affirmation.
Someone is so music can affirmyou too, you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Sometimes I worry.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
And eat the meat and spit out the bones, you know.
So, right, right, right.
That's what I do with that oneRight.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm like mama, okay, but that's the affirmation for
me.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Okay so it could be, it could have its good place in
this.
You gotta know you know, oncethey muted R Kelly, I was like
dang.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, I'm even feel comfortable listening to Tam.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I was like dang Step in the name of love, not at a
wedding I had to get used tothat yes.
But then I like songs likedon't put me out, don't put me
you know songs like that.
That was like sort of likewomen's anthems back in the days
, for you know when men docruddy stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But you know what I realized too, and I was like wow
, you know how spiritual LaurenHill is.
Yes, she won it, I think she.
So they met.
They were when I was in theRoan Han on Drink Champs.
I think they went in the studiotogether and they hooked up.
I mean you know they ended orwhatever the case may be.
I know, lauren, she probably,like I, was one to have a kid
(48:04):
with a Molly.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I love listening to him on something and he Drink
Champs.
I don't know what it was.
It was Drink Champs orsomething that it was like a
clip and he really gave her suchaccolades.
He was like she's a beautifulperson, right.
Did you see that clip.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He was just like she's a beautiful mother to his
children.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
He had, like, nothing negative to say and it seemed
very authentic.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I mean when you're on Champion's, like she is a very
beautiful person, Five kidsright Together.
She was a great mother to hiskids.
I love that he didn't have anylike maybe mama kind of negative
thing to say.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Right, right, even though like he had history.
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, but the only bad thing is that yeah, but the
only thing about it is that theonly thing that is is that
stopped her from doing anotherclassic album.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Did it the Hurt, you see the Hurt that he gave her.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
No, no, no, no.
I've never heard no new musicfrom her.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
After she had kids.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, she never had nothing else.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
She went through a lot.
She went through the tax.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Oh yeah, she went through her label and he broke
her heart.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, yeah, he broke her heart.
I don't know if that was it.
Maybe he had other things, butso I learned a lot and I want to
see.
I still want to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, I want to see the movie.
I want to see it.
I'm going to see it.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I'm going to see it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Because I actually a friend of mine, a friend
Sterling, he was just posted.
He said oh, never mind peoplesay about the actor, the movie
was good to me Okay, so we gotto agree.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
We're all going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yes, yeah, we're going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, I've been cheating, trying to watch
YouTube, but I'm going to go seeit.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, I like learning about him.
I just I got more and moreinterested and I said I'm in, I
want to go see, I want to go see.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
I think I'm interested more and see the
movie is what I see they saydepicts more about less of the
activism part of his life, butmore about the family the family
and the women and the kids.
So I really want to learn moreabout his activism because he
was a disruptor and I feel likeI'm a disruptor.
Okay, I'm a disruptor.
So that's what I'm attracted toabout his story.
(50:09):
It's a big charge.
Disruptor.
Yeah, you're not well liked.
Yeah, it's a lonely road.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, fbi tapping into your phone.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
I hope not.
I ain't disrupting that space.
Fbi is a mofo.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And Martin Luther King died.
They gave Corretta Scott Kingon his infidelity tapes.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Like he had all that.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, like he was cheating, and we want you to
listen to all that there.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
They have a piece of work, but Vicious.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
What happened to love , though, like I, just I want to
be in love.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
I've been told, you know that song, love, don't live
here.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
You know like.
It's not about a financial gain, it's not about what we're
getting.
Except when I look across thetable from you 50 years from now
, I still like you.
Yeah, Where's that Like?
Maybe I watch TV love stories.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
No, no, no, no, no.
Those exist.
Like they exist.
You have a few.
I forgot their names 42 yearold marriages and.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
That's the life.
I think maybe I've been alittle jaded about dad.
May not have been a cheater ormay have, but I think I grew up
in a house where I didn't seethat be a dynamic.
So in my mind as a child andgrown into a woman, I feel like
monogamy could exist.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
It can exist.
It can exist.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
It can exist if you know what I mean.
You know what they say, complywhat about you.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
You know I'm a falling line, falling line.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
It could happen if you all just chill out.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Chill out Really back in, I believe.
I like to see that too.
I like to see couples growtogether and finish each other's
sentences, and so I like to seeit.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
On 70.
That's old school.
No I mean it could work.
It could work yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I mean, you get ready to get married?
Tell me how.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, I'm saying it's working for me and I'm telling
you, the only way it works to meis you got to avoid people and
places.
Okay, you know, you can'tcertain temptations.
You can't like my boys betrying to get me to go to DR.
No, I'm not going Okay.
I'm not going to go, and thenI'm not going to be the one
doing nothing.
The next thing you know, you'regoing to be laughing at me, or
y'all try to send chicks to me.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
You know, so it's like Discipline, yeah, I mean
discipline to stay away.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
You might, you know, you say you fall short, go there
and then next you know showtime.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
All right, all right, but that's why Put yourself in
no circumstance.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
So what makes you I think I asked you this before so
what makes you say hey, I'm notdoing that anymore?
Speaker 1 (52:45):
I'm my experience, man, it's like you know, just
just like how I quit alcohol islike I overstayed my welcome.
Okay, Okay, it's nothing elsefor me to get out of that.
I have my daughter and I'm notlike, I'm not unhappy, so it's
like you know, and the thingabout it, you didn't, you don't
even need to be unhappy to do it.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Men don't need it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
You don't need it, you know women need to be
unhappy to do it Frepoint.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
That's a lusty little trend,You're just a horse, you're just
a gang club.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
You're just a scarlet letter in the building.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
You're Jezebel.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
All right, so you're in closing.
In closing.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay, before we close , you know, I'd like to send a
resting piece to our friend, ourfriend.
We lost a good, a good friend,right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Sleeping.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Peaks.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Nigel, my boy, nigel man.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I mean good friend, I knew him forever.
Wow, I got different stories.
I remember one story I couldtell you about.
One day he said yo, my yo, comewith me to this party.
It's a day party.
You know, we got twisted, he'sgetting twisted, we wind up
going to three parties.
(53:56):
Three parties.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Not planned.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
No, he knew it but I didn't know it was this come.
You know he was going with himand he's just got wasted and
it's had time of our life.
I still remember we wind up thelast party we was at.
We wind up like in a golf club.
Golf, golf, golf club thing.
Wow, I was like I think it wason a flat bus, it was somewhere,
it was down there, but I thinklike it's somewhere over there.
(54:20):
Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
I've never seen this.
I'm like.
I'm like one person on my life.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
And I'm like the only thing I could say is that this
is a good brother and we lost areal one.
This one right here is like ithit real close.
You know what I mean?
I just speak every day, butit's always.
Every time we spoke was love,love, love.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I'm sending you love to your grief.
Yeah, your grief don't have atime limit, so I'm definitely
sending you love.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, you sleep in peace, nigel.
Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Sleep in peace.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
He has a GoFundMe too .
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yes, I mean because it's going to air this weekend,
so it's still going.
So the GoFundMe is on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Hold on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yes, he's from Flatbush.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Flatbush is definitely grieving because the
day it happened it just the postwouldn't stop.
So he was one of those.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
He's a major guy.
He's a major guy on the outsideand on this Flatbush.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Like you know, he's loved.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
No bad words about it .
Speaker 2 (55:23):
So the GoFundMe is Nigel N-I-G-E-L Gail, organized
by his daughter, Ariane Gail.
Ariane Gail, G-A-Y-L-E.
So go ahead and hit thatGoFundMe.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yes, man, even it's $5, $10, just do what you can,
something.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Help the family out.
You know, if you don't Together, we win.
Together we win, together wewin.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
So positive words going out.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yes, you know.
They say you know, if you knewbetter, you'd do better right.
Sometimes, you know, sometimesI don't really be the truth.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Thank you.
I was like hoping you agreewith my perspective.
I was like I don't want to tellthis man I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
No, I totally agree with that.
Yeah, you know, but you justtry to be the best version of
you, just be who you are andjust try to.
You know, take that to the nextlevel.
You know, and a lot of peopleout there.
You need to start Like, if youhave a skill you know, reach and
teach.
You know our children, not justonly your children reach and
(56:31):
teach, yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:34):
My clothes.
My clothes and remarks would bethat my life is about having
experiences, and this has been agreat one, and you had
mentioned that your friend hadjust passed away and it just
always makes me reflect on.
Life is short.
Make sure you have as manyexperiences as you can so you
have as many memories as you canand a lot of times we are
(56:56):
living to die and not living tolive.
So this has been a greatexperience and it reminds me
that I'm living, that lifelife's, for God is God.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
So okay.
I like that life is life andGod is.
God all the time.
So I just wanted to.
I found this quote this week.
It came to me like twice, so Isaid you know what?
I'm going to use it and closemy remarks.
So it goes like this is don'tignore your passions, don't
ignore your potential, don'tignore your purpose.
(57:29):
You are more than capable.
It is safe to try, and my, myexpert pastor used to say do it
scared.
So do it scared, you know.
And thanks for challenging meand my to revisit.
So we're going to hold eachother accountable to finish what
we started.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Right, I love it.
I'll try.
I'm going to hold youaccountable because you know I
got to each other accountable.
Yes, you're going to hold us.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yes, I'm going to circle back.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
I'm going to circle back, like okay, it's been 90
days, which I love to do it.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's been three months now.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
I think it's going to happen faster than I feel like
y'all going to really connectwith the catalyst that we need
the battery and our backs.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yes, yes, everyone.
Have a good week on purpose.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
And this is the your opinion.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
There's a matter which?
Speaker 1 (58:22):
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