March 24, 2025 • 47 mins
Two old friends reconnect after the New Year, diving into the complex realities of midlife with refreshing honesty and occasional humor. Black Jesus and Mr. Lamont navigate topics that many avoid but everyone eventually confronts—mortality, purposeful living, and the physical realities of aging.
When Lamont shares his frustration with others' defeatist attitudes about mortality, it sparks a thoughtful exchange about different approaches to life's inevitable conclusion. Rather than dwelling on what can't be controlled, Lamont focuses on building something meaningful that will outlast him. Black Jesus counters with practical wisdom about preparing for the future while still embracing the present.
The conversation shifts to relationships as Lamont discusses his upcoming wedding and experience with couples counseling. Drawing from 13 years of marriage, Black Jesus offers invaluable insights about the transformation that occurs after saying "I do"—describing it as crossing "over to a more spiritual realm" where independence gives way to true partnership. His revelation that finances—not infidelity—represent the leading cause of divorce provides a sobering reminder of marriage's practical dimensions.
Perhaps most compelling is their candid discussion about alcohol. Lamont shares his three years of sobriety, calculating how drinking robbed him of productivity and memories. Black Jesus admits to still enjoying occasional drinks while acknowledging the increasingly difficult recoveries that come with age. Their unfiltered conversation about "liquor shits" and forgotten nights demonstrates the uncomfortable physical realities of heavy drinking that often go undiscussed.
The episode concludes with powerful words about taking chances: "You can't lose if you don't try" and "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Join these authentic voices as they navigate life's complexities with wisdom earned through decades of friendship and experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Welcome to the your OpinionDoesn't Matter podcast.
I am one of the hosts, mrLamont, and I'm here with a good
friend of mine, co-host BlackJesus.
How are you doing, bro?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm good.
I'm good man.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm good man, I'm good, I'm maintaining man,
Maintaining man.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No doubt.
No doubt, it's been a littlewhile.
It's always good to be in thepresence of greatness.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, man, Feelings mutual bro, Feelings mutual man.
So the new year started.
This is our first recordingtogether for the new year.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No doubt, Happy New Year B.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, happy New Year, man.
How's things been going for you, man?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
New year.
It's a new year and it bringsthe good and the bad.
There's a lot of positivethings, there's a lot of
uncertainty.
There's a lot of things wecan't control.
You know what I'm saying, but Iguess that's just how it goes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
We can't fight certain things,but we can just try to grow and
be happy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Try to grow and be happy man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you know, I've been feeling in a rut, shall I
say.
You know what I mean.
I've been through differentsituations yeah different
situations To be like andhearing certain people say
certain things to you um, bringsyour morale down.
(01:25):
Like my um, my uncle-in-law.
He was complaining to my fianceabout his brother being sick,
so forth and so on, and then hefound out he was okay.
Everybody was like, oh they,they blew it out proportion.
But then he says to me you know, you know, he's older, he's
older than me a couple years,older than a couple years.
(01:45):
Then he's like you know, we um,you know we're not gonna live
forever.
You know we all gotta go.
But I'm like to myself, I'mlike why you gotta talk like
that, bro, to myself?
I'm like why you gotta if, ifyou know what you know, what's
the the purpose of telling otherpeople that?
(02:06):
And don't you think everybodyknow that Nobody's immortal, you
understand?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I hear you, but you know, unfortunately, when you
hit the ripe age of like 50,like us, whether you try to
think about it or not, yourmortality comes into question.
And some people they try tothink about it less than others,
but at some point in your lifeyou actually got to start
thinking about it, becausethings around you just start
changing for the worse, you know, and can get depressing
(02:34):
sometime.
And I think some people theytry to occupy their time and try
not to think about it.
But even at a certain time it'sgoing to come.
It's going to come and you'regoing to have to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know what I'm saying, and I mean that's just
how life goes.
I mean, I think about it oftentoo more, more so than I did in
my 40s, you know right yeah,yeah, it's like you come face to
face with, with life and thingsthat you're unprepared for
right now, know, and you'reseeing people that you grew up
(03:05):
with, your peers.
You're just hearing aunts,uncles, friends.
They just they're slowly butsurely leaving us and you know
it gets, frankly, it getsdepressing sometimes, man.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, man, you know, I mean I try not to think of it
to that on that level, but it'swhat I'm doing while I'm here.
Okay, let me try to build theempire so that you know what,
what I leave behind or somethingyou know.
I mean I don't even liketalking about leave behind.
It's what I'm putting togethernow is going to be, is going to,
it's going to stand the test oftime.
(03:36):
You know, I'm saying it's goingto, it's going to be.
Now I'm going to be onlyremembered for my family, but
remembered for everything.
You know, I'm saying that'sgonna, that that's how I look at
, that's how I would prepare,that's how I prepare my mind for
, okay, the, the um, you know,the, the so-called end, that
things that we can't stop.
It's like I'm not gonna ponder,I'm not gonna just sit back and
(03:57):
like, okay, just let let theage creep up on me and or this,
that and the third, and notthinking about getting healthy.
So when I was saying I was in arut, um, because I had that, it
felt like a defeating mindsetin a way, like, okay, well, I'm
gonna throw myself in a home orsomething, you know I mean, but
even though I'm not feeling thatway.
But I started like I said, waita minute, let me just get super
(04:21):
, super, let me, let me do achange, let me challenge myself
to a change, um, physically inmy life.
Because I started, um, I starteddoing, trying to do some yoga,
and I realized, like yo, why Ican't move my leg, like india, I
said, oh shit, I'm like yo,this left leg is bugging, so I
(04:44):
wind up when I want to go to gym.
Actually, on the personaltrainer dudes, they was like oh
man, you got your hips, man, yougotta do something with your
hips, yeah, yeah.
So then I just started, I'mjust starting now, I'm just
starting to really get into likethe yoga I'm trying to and
really starting to know, know,know my body and and really
trying to reverse, reverse theway the body functions.
(05:04):
It's like how we start off slim, we gain weight and then we
just start getting dumpy.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And to piggyback on that, guyslike us that are, you know, six
feet plus, you know as we getolder we need to slim down
because you know, being so tall,the heart works harder,
especially if you carry a lot ofweight.
So the wise thing to do is toslim down so you can take it
easy on your heart, to have somekind of longevity.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And to go on to what you're saying.
You know, try not to thinkabout you know what's going to
happen after you know I'm gone.
But realistically you've got toput some thought to it because
sooner or later it's going to bea reality and you've got to
kind of set up your people to beokay.
It's nothing, we don't want totalk about it, but you have to
(05:59):
deal.
You've got to deal with itsometimes.
You've got to come to termswith it and you've got to start
setting up.
You know your people for lifewithout you, you know, you just
cannot think about it becausethe next thing you know you just
want to make sure the ones thatyou loved is okay when you go
out.
And I mean it's okay to thinkabout it.
I think it's good to thinkabout it.
(06:19):
I don't know, bro, you can't bein denial man.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, but it's like I mean, but what are you thinking
about?
Like, what is that thought?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
like, I want to make sure my people my wife and kids
are able to function wellfinancially when I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh no, but that is different.
That's different the way me andyou saying the same thing, but
the way my fiancé how he wassaying it.
It had nothing to do withsetting up this family with this
.
It had nothing to do with this.
It's like yo, we got to go.
Most likely your uncle'sprobably depressed.
It sounded like it.
(06:58):
He sounded like he's trying tobring me to a depressed party.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
A lot of people who, once you hit their 50s, they get
depressed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm like, yo like relax man, I'm still
fighting the fight, you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in a different state
of mind.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'm sure he's in a low state of mind where he's not
you, you got the me and yousaying the same thing setting up
the family like that.
That's what we're saying, butthe way he's coming at it, I'm
like come on, man, please stayover there.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stay over there, man, stay over there I hear you, I
hear you, I guess I get yousaying now yeah, yeah yeah, well
, by the way, congratulations,man.
I know that that, that that dayis coming soon to you and your
fiance, right?
Oh yeah you're all about to getthere right oh yeah man, oh
yeah man.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So, um, yeah, man, I'm about to take that big step
and get get married.
You know, um pretty soon, butum, I said we had to.
Um, we have some things that wegotta solve first, so I don't
currently, me and my me and myfiance, we in therapy therapy,
slash counseling slashcounseling like I mean, when you
say counseling like, um,they're the therapy, they're
(08:06):
just talking straight up anddown about who we are.
What are we doing now?
I don't know.
I don't know what the processas far as um marriage counseling
is, I don't know.
Are they, are they foreseeingwhat y'all need to do as a
couple?
Um, what, what is?
What is that like?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
yeah, well, first of all, uh, like I says, uh, I've
been, I've been happily married.
We're going on 13 years rightnow and uh, at the beginning
before the reverend married us,we, when we spoke to him he was
like yo listen, man, beforey'all get married, y'all gotta
take y'all gotta take marriagecounseling.
He's like why, why is that?
(08:44):
He's like I'm not going tomarry you unless you'll take
counseling.
We got to sit there and we gotto talk, we got to discuss what
marriage is about and what ittakes to have a fruitful
marriage and make sure you twopeople have and are getting
married for the right reason andwe had about three sessions and
let me tell you something, itwas very beneficial to our
(09:07):
marriage.
It gave us a betterunderstanding of marriage and
what it's about.
And you know, some people thinkyou just get married, it's just
like it's just ceremonial, andthen you're married.
Nah, it's a lot of things thatcome with it, man, and so I
recommend counseling to theutmost degree.
You could be living, let metell, tell you something you
could be living with somebodyfor uh, three, four years, but
(09:28):
the day after you marry them,day after, it's different man,
different walk.
It's like I don't know how toexplain.
It's like you cross over to amore spiritual realm and and you
kind of give up yourindependence and you become
cohesive until y'all become oneand you got to share all the
decision, everything is you andher.
You understand, yeah, it's likea bonding right, right, right,
(09:52):
right, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And I'm, you know, I'm, I'm learning.
I'm learning things aboutmyself.
Um, I'm learning, I'm learninga lot that I got to be more
present.
I got to be more present in myrelationship.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What do you mean?
Physically or mentally?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mentally, mentally.
Yes, I got to be more mentallypresent and really listen to my
fiance when she this is what shewants and this is what she
needs.
You know what I'm saying.
Sometimes, when you're withsomebody for a long time, like
you, you ignore the littlethings, yeah, that make make us
tick yes, and then and then next.
(10:32):
You know, when you ignore that,we ain't tick, talking no more.
You know I'm saying so, it'slike it's off you know, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It is imperative that you listen and you be there
physically and mentally and tryto take in what your fiance is
saying and you know, when youget married.
It's a lot of anticipating now.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like you know, your wife gives you little hints.
Yeah, wife don't always want totell you exactly what to do.
Women are like that.
They want to tell you exactly,they want to drop a little hint
and they want you to pick up andgo with it.
You know what I'm saying Right,right, right.
The quicker you learn that, thebetter marriage you have.
You understand.
Yeah, I do, and you know what,during counseling, what was
(11:14):
amazing, the Reverend he's likeyou know what was the number one
factor to people gettingdivorced for marriage?
And we used to talk we doinfidelity, so-and-so this and
that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Guess what it was.
What's that term?
Unreconciled differences.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Negative Finances.
Finances, they said.
People get divorced at a higherrate from lack of finances.
That's the number one factorwith people getting divorced.
So before you get married, ifthere's any financial issues,
it's better to put it out in theopen.
Let your mate know what they'redealing with you understand
(11:55):
what I'm saying, right.
Because if you live in a facadeand you act and then you get
married and then she finds outthings are not really what
they're like, a lot of women arejust not going to stick around.
You know and, more importantly,you want somebody that if
you're going through a financialstruggle, you got to know
(12:17):
they're going to be there withyou and they're going to hit you
on with you and take the lowswith the highs with you and not
bail out on you.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And that's a big factor in my marriage.
What I love about my wife is,you know, in marriage, like I
said, marriage is a rollercoaster.
It's ups and downs, but youjust got to hang on.
You understand and stay for theride.
And I've been up and I've beendown and during the downs my
(12:47):
wife hang on with me and shesaid you know what we down
together.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
that's what's up, and then we're going to go up
together.
And it was times where she hada how could I say?
She had to take the driver'sseat for a little while.
Sometimes I was down, she heldme down, boom, boom, boom.
You got to make sure they don'ttreat you different, because
sometimes when a woman has totake the driver's seat, then she
tries to belittle you and makeyou feel less than a man.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right, right.
My wife is not like that.
Do that all the time when shehad to hold me down.
Still, let me feel like a man.
Still let me run the ship.
You understand what, right?
Right right, right rightBecause at the end of all women,
you really got to always make aman feel like he's a man, and
once you start belittling himand make him feel less than a
man, that's also going to bringproblems.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It'll bring problems.
It'll bring problems,definitely it'll bring problems.
And you just like when a womanwant to flex her muscles, yeah,
you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
She want to flex her muscles when they.
But the thing about it is it'ssupposed to be natural.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
The man is supposed to be the sole provider.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, the man is the driver, but sometimes the woman.
The man is the driver, thewoman helps navigate you
understand what I'm saying.
Right facts but there's goingto be times where you're going
to need her to drive for alittle while.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Facts, facts, facts, facts, facts.
That's true, that's true, man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But majority of the time the man is the sole
provider, he's the leader, he'sthe driver, you understand.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, but when you stand off, course you need a
woman to be there.
Like listen, you know you standa little off to the left, you
know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need tomake a you know, right, right,
right, right, Stay on focus,girl.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Right, right, right, right, yeah, right, pilot, you
dig facts, man.
You know you hold themstairwell for a little bit.
Girl, hold the stairwell.
You know I mean yeah, yeah,yeah, you know we're gonna get
there, we get there.
No doubt you know when youdrive we go slower, but we're
gonna get there yeah, hey,sometimes listen, sometimes she
(14:36):
see things you can't see that'sa fact yeah, you know when you
drive.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know when you drive a driver.
You know drivers can't seeeverything because he's more
focused on the road.
It's other shit on the side andthat guy to be like yo boom
watch that right there.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, exactly oh shit , I didn't even see that.
Good luck, you know, exactly,exactly, exactly.
And um, you know it wasinteresting, interesting, right?
Um you saying far as what yousee, right?
Um, there's this, there's thisdude, right that?
Um, I always, I always see, youknow he always like tags me,
(15:08):
not always, he tags me, like atleast once every two weeks in a
post, but you know that's one ofthem tags when, like, 99 people
were in it.
I'm like yo, why does he keep?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
tagging me.
I hate that group but then.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
but then one time, a couple times, he would comment
on my stories, yeah.
So then I'm like, oh okay, allright.
So this is not no real spamtype of dude, you know I mean,
because he's engaging, a coupletimes he would comment on my
stories, yeah.
So then I'm like, oh okay, allright, so this is not no real
spam type of dude, you know whatI mean, because he's engaging.
So now he had put a post aboutschools.
Like you know, pta Make a longstory short.
He's in a PTA of my old school,the school that I was trying to
(15:42):
get into, ps235.
I was trying to get in there aprogram.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So getting to the point where you just certain
things you just don't see.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And me and him got on the phone just last week and he
was talking about theopportunity of us working
together, right Me trying topresent my program to the school
, so forth and so on.
And he said like this he saidyou know.
He said I knew you for overlike 18 years, yeah.
And he said that me and younever talked.
We just did like this, we justhead nod.
But I found that interesting.
(16:18):
I found that interesting thatyou could see certain things,
see certain people, but you justkeep it at a cordial level.
But you don't know that goodconversation what it could lead
to.
You never know what a goodconversation could lead you to.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's definitely things inlife that you can't see, no
matter how focused you are.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah, would you tell a personthe truth and they will hate you
, or let the situation live in alie?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think, as a friend for a friend or a friend
remember even though a friend,it got to depend the
relationship with that friend.
You know, you got to have anunderstanding of that person.
Some people can't handle thetruth.
You know what I'm saying.
Some people they'll ask for thetruth and then when you give
them the truth, then they'lltake it away and they might not
(17:18):
want to ever speak to you againin your life.
Some people are more adept ataccepting the truth than others.
Some people are overlysensitive.
I am a truth guy.
I want the truth 24-7, even ifit hurts.
Yeah, tell me the truth.
You know.
I think that's kind of an oldschool way of thinking, like yo
give it to me straight, I'malways yo give it to me straight
.
You want this or you don't wantthat?
(17:39):
Boom, let me know, boom.
But some people now, especiallyI find in these times now,
people are overly sensitive andyou give them the truth.
And first, of all, the firstterm, that they're going to say
is you're hating on me.
You understand I'm saying orthey don't want to accept it and
they think you're just tryingto put them down.
(18:02):
You understand, like I said,I'm a person.
I want the truth.
But most people nowadays I findthey don't want the truth.
But my family members uh,brothers, sisters I give them
the truth right because theyknow me.
That's, that's how I am, youunderstand close friends, yo you
want'm going to tell you this.
Now You're fucking up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know the thing about this People don't like to
hear that truth, People don'twant to hear that People, family
, family, friends they don'twant to hear it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My family, my immediate family.
They know I'm the truth.
They know they come to me.
I'm going to give you the truth.
I don't want you to live a lie.
I want you to fix what's wrongand get on a brighter future,
straighter road.
If you understand what I'msaying?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, but you see, a lot of times people don't you
say fix what's wrong.
A lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
They don't believe anything's wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They don't believe what they got going on is wrong.
Like what?
Nah, my blue suede shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, no, no, no, no no , no, yeah, the society has got
soft over the last 15, 20 years.
It just seems that especiallymen, men have become I mean, I
hate to say it, men have becomea lot more feminized man.
They're more into theirfeelings.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm telling you, people don't like to look in the
mirror, bro.
People hate it.
People hate it, people hate it,man, and they'll point out your
flaws and everything like that.
It's people usually have themost flaws.
Be the one to tell you who whothink they could tell you about
you better than you yeah, yeah,like I said, people nowadays
they want, they don't take anyaccountability, they don't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
They don't want to be the one that's wrong.
They want to.
They want to blame it on otherthings.
They want to be the one that'swrong.
They want to blame it on otherthings.
They want to deflect.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know you're going to hear a funny story, right,
it's not, people aren't going toreally find it too funny.
But hey, we're going to touchon this real quick.
Right, because we wanted abigger panel.
We was talking about some ofthe decisions Trump made, right?
But I'm going to parallel thiswith my own personal story,
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because we wanted a bigger panel.
We was talking about some ofthe decisions Trump made, right?
Yeah, but I'm going to parallelthis with my own personal story
where, when Trump got rid ofthe pronouns, it's just man and
woman, man and woman, that's itright, that's a great thing.
That's a great thing, but youknow, the people who stand for
those are the ones that's reallyin outrage.
They really, really, reallydon't.
They really, really, reallydon't like that they don't like
(20:20):
that and um, you know they, theyfind, they find that like hold
on, what about our equality orwhat about we're being trapped?
You know it was going as far asum okaying surgeries for little
kids that they felt that wastrapped in, like a boy trapped
in a girl's body, okayingsurgery for certain things like
(20:41):
that you know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I mean that's a touchy subject, but that old
boy trapped in a girl's body, Ithink that's somewhat ridiculous
and I think that's a form ofmental illness.
Personally, I think thosepeople they need to see a
psychiatrist before they need togo and see a doctor to get a
sex change.
I mean, that's just how I feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I mean, we're going to try to try lightly
until we have a bigger panel andthen we can, you know, do a
deep dive into this.
But let me talk about mysituation, right, I don't even
know if I told you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Therapy is good always.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm going to physical therapy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, it's physical therapy Physical Still the same
thing.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right, and I'm in.
It's the first time I'm therewith there's Filipinos.
Yeah, I'm like okay, and theygot.
You know, I went to a couple oftherapy places.
They got different techniques.
They got this technique theyusing is different.
I'm like, okay, and they giveyou massages and stuff like that
, right?
So I'm in there and I'm lookingat, I'm looking at like two of
(21:46):
them.
I'm like, ah, look, I don'tknow.
I'm like I don't know, bro, I'mlike eh.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, you don't know whether it's a male or female.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, female or female is notorious
for that shit.
But then, you know, now I'mgetting the massage with my head
down right, and then I'mlooking at the sneakers, I'm
peeping the sneakers, right.
I'm like, all right, let me seethat person's face and then I
tie it to their sneakers.
So then I'm like two times thisindividual gave me a massage
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and I'm like no.
And then the third time, afterthe massage, I felt like you
know, you finished, you're aboutto walk away.
I felt like a tap, like rightin the middle of my back, like
I'm like after the massage, likewalking away and a tap in the
middle of my back.
I'm like after the massage,walking away and a tap in the
middle of my back.
I'm like, yo, this person'sgetting way too into this.
(22:46):
I felt like it was personal,intimate, intimate, intimate.
Yeah right.
It was like yo, whatever's goingon here, I was like yo.
So I tell my fiance, I say yo.
I say yo, I don't know man, Idon't know what's going on.
(23:06):
She's there laughing, shelaughing.
I say yo, it ain't funny, itain't funny, right.
So the next time I went, theowner, a sexual married guy,
wife and all that stuff, theother workers wasn't there yet I
said I said I'm actually aquestion that person I've been
(23:28):
giving massage is is that a, isthat a tranny?
He looks at me and says huh, isthat a tranny?
He looks at me and says huh.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
He heard you.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I said is that person a tranny?
Is that person a man?
He says yes.
I said no, I don't want.
I'm the same way.
I said I don't want no moremassages from him.
He says okay, I understand.
(23:57):
I mean actually your opinion,man.
When you go into establishments, give you that option to say
yay or nay or just be like okay.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They should give you the option to say yay or nay.
That's what's wrong with thisnew I hate to say this, but with
this new fucking world youshould Just, like you know in
general, socially, there's likeyou know in general socially,
there's like you know they gotmen out in the clubs posing as
women.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And they letting them in no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They had a sexual party and then you know, if they
fool somebody and then it getsto a point where the person
finds out and then they end upand pose a physical harm on them
, you're the wrong one, but Ifeel you should let her know
from the get-go what you areright.
You know what I'm saying.
Just to give, just to give theother person an option, the
option to decide whether I wantto deal with you or not.
(24:44):
You understand, I'm the sameway.
I'm in when I go to therapy.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't want no, I'm saying I might, might see the
sexes, but I don't want no manmassaging me actually went to a
massage parlor with my fianceand and she knows, I, I, me and
her both had women massaging us.
She, I'm on one table, she's onone table, that's how it is.
My only option was a um.
There was no other women, therewas the.
Was the um heterosexual?
(25:07):
The guy who was running theplace and I had I let him do it?
Yeah, so I mean, I don't feelno way about that, but the
chance the train you should havean option.
Have an option, yeah, yeah andand afterwards the Chinese never
spoke to me again.
I'm like, all right, cool, butyou know what I'm saying is like
.
But then you, let me tell you,let me tell you what's, let me
tell you what's bugged out aboutthat.
Like a month later there's thiselderly guy I'm hearing, I'm
(25:33):
hearing him flirting with her.
I'm hearing, and she's likeshe's batting her eyes because
she would walk out of thesliding room and she's batting
her eyes.
I'm like, damn, this older guymight not even know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Let me tell you something that nigga might not
even care.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Probably right, you know what I'm saying.
He probably don't even care,man, yeah, some people don't
even care.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But guys like us, old school, mean potato guys.
You understand what I'm saying.
Yeah, we want to know whatwe're dealing with At all times.
I want to know what I'm dealingwith Facts.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Imagine you catching a wine and it's a guy, yeah yeah
, yeah, you know about the wholestory.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But let me tell you a funnier story.
But I wasn't there, I onlyheard about it.
They was in Trinny and there'sa crew of them in Trinny and one
of them a good song was on.
One of them went and bucked upbehind a so-called thing with
long Indian hair.
(26:35):
And then you know the thingabout it is.
Let me tell you the bug, thatpart is this In the West Indian
culture the man you know what?
Already the man would take awine from somebody behind him,
like, say, like a family memberor something like that, or a
girl get up on you and grind itbehind you.
So that's what it was.
(26:55):
Homeboy wasn't gay.
So in other words, the guy wentbehind the other guy.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So the guy who was in front looked like a woman was
dancing, thinking that this wasa woman behind him.
Oh yeah, okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Thinking this was a woman behind him.
Yeah, okay, I got you Thinkingthis was a woman behind him.
So he's grinding, grinding backand next thing, you know, he
probably felt a ting on him.
He turned around.
Yeah, he turned around and hesaid Bula, Bula, Bula Yo Yo.
(27:36):
You turn around and they callhim a bula.
I said oh, shit.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Let me tell you something, man it's mad tricky
out there now.
That's why it's a good thingthat you're settling down to get
married because, believe me,you don't want to be out there.
There's all kind of how could Icall it?
There's a lot of sheeps inwolf's clothing, you understand
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, man, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So if you're out there like indulging, then it's
not a good time, especially fora heterosexual man.
I mean, I'm just going to sayit.
It's not a good time becausethere's a lot of shit out there
that'll fool you, get you fuckedup.
(28:20):
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, so to have the sanctuary.
You're having your wife, yourwoman at home and you know you
got something good at homeyou're.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You're in a safe space.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I feel sorry.
I feel sorry for the, for dudesout there now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, she crazy yeah, and it's like it's.
It's rough, man, just even uh,to put people in a situation
like that.
I mean, I feel, I feel that youshould be able to go to like a
particular part of town whereyou know everybody is like that
(28:52):
and then do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It used to be like that.
Remember back in the days.
Like you know.
You knew back in the days youknew.
You don know.
You knew back in the days youknew.
You don't go to the villagebecause you know what's over
there, you understand what I'msaying yeah, you knew.
Yeah, you knew, you knew.
But now, what did they call it?
It's an integration movement.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Inclusion, inclusion, you got to Like they're regular
.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, Even in the school system too.
It's a whole thing with acampaign of inclusion.
Now Everybody needs to becategorized the same, which I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And I'm not with it.
I don't understand it, but Ibelieve in people being
categorized in certain groups.
I believe in categorization andseparation.
Big advocate for that.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, it's not easy, man.
It's not easy, man, likeyesterday I went to have my
daughter, my daughter's six, andwe was.
I was at a.
We was at a place, a locationwhere they had bathrooms with
like stalls and all that stufflike that so then I go to the
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bathroom, right, but then it'slike there's a woman and there's
men.
So I'm like, I'm like mydaughter, she can't, I'm not
gonna let you in there.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I can't go in there and she can't go in the woman's
bathroom with her.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, so I bring her to the man's bathroom.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
She there crying, just standing there.
That's a crazy situation, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But then think about it Now imagine if I say, okay,
you're a big girl going to thebathroom, and then she's in
there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And there's a man, physical man, coming out of
there.
I'll be furious that mydaughter was in there for like
five minutes already.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But then this person that I don't know what you call
them, but say they was inanother store.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't subscribe to that man.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I don't subscribe to that we're not with that Fire
for that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You stay in your own.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Stay in your own man.
You are what you are.
You are what you was born withman.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Stop trying to change .
You can't change what God gaveyou, man, you know what I'm
saying.
Yeah man, yeah man, sit down,get your shit together.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But they say God don't make no mistakes, right
Shit.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So why are you trying to fix shit?
Yeah, right, yeah, the onlyones that I say that.
People are going to probablytry to cancel me, but as I said
the hermaphrodites Speak yourmind huh, like hermaphrodites,
they're the only ones that couldprobably go either way to me.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
mean Yo, shit's so crazy nowadays I ain't even hear
about that term in forever.
A merphidite, uh-huh?
Yeah, that's the one that hasthe two has the penis and the
vagina, right?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
There They've been drowned out, everything that's
been going on, because you knowit, and white thing, yeah, we
trying to get that pie together,black and white, yeah, but then
now we got the LGBT and otherletters coming in carving out,
(32:05):
yeah, which is what is the part?
What should we prioritize?
And it's not the same fight.
And it's not the same fight.
But what makes it worse isbeing to being a minority and in
that group.
So you got you, it's two, it'stwo things, that's.
That's that that you up against.
You know, I'm saying not onlythat you, black, or your
minority, yeah, and you and yourfaith, you're trying to fight,
(32:26):
you trying to climb uphill withthat.
You want equality like that.
Look at me like this.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So nah bro, yeah, and the the whole, or I want to be
like now.
You couldn't be.
Who the you?
You think you want to be?
If you want to, you know I wantto be.
I want to be a king, youunderstand.
I want to be now just king.
Call me king.
Well, I want.
That is ridiculous, right?
I don't even see why people,even why society, is even paying
(32:54):
them any mind.
I mean, I just don't understandit.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, man, it's rough , it's rough.
Man, it's rough, it's rough,it's a rough world I feel.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Sometimes.
I look at my kids and I be likeDad, y'all gonna it's not gonna
get no better man.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, it's not gonna get no better, but things did
get better though, bro.
You know what got better as far, bro.
You know what got better as faras what?
And and um.
Technology got better,resources got better, but the
way of thinking changed.
It matured, but it went adifferent direction.
It didn't improve.
It didn't improve society.
It didn't improve.
(33:29):
No dead people are trying tofigure it out on a small scale.
It's a big scale to them, butit's a small scale compared to
the to the.
We went from black and white tvto color tv of course, of
course, that's right to the tothe evolving as a person.
Yeah to tv on your phone.
Yeah to um, to to um.
Get sitting at the back of thebus.
You can't use the um, the samewater fountain.
(33:49):
Fighting that fight now we, we,we growing and for us, like you
know, I mean like yo, let's and, as I said, black, black and
white TV, the color TV, thethings that's changing, that we
was making monumental steps andthen now it's just like now.
It's just this big, big, biggumbo with different issues, and
(34:11):
the main issue is not aboutblack and white and inequality.
There's so much things into it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, human nature is in a frenzy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Man, human beings is in a frenzy right now it's all
over the place, man yeah, man,it's all over the place, like
you said.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, things were a lot more simple when we was
growing up, you understand yeahlive in a very complex world
right now yeah, man yeah manthey said, um, but hey, we here.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
We here to make it better.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, we're going to try to make it better,
especially for our kids, youunderstand.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, man, the only thing we got.
All we doing is fighting that.
Fight for the children, man.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Fighting the fight for the children man.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, but yo let me ask you a question, man.
This is about your boy, lebronJames.
Yo did you see that?
Did you see when the Lakers wasplaying the Knicks and LeBron
trotted over to him and thethird quarter timeout for
(35:10):
Stephen A Smith and he had wordsfor him?
You talking about my son, youdon't talk about my son.
What's your thoughts on?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
that.
You know I'm not a greatadvocate for LeBron James.
I think he's a great person offthe court.
But as far as on the court, I'mnot an advocate for LeBron
James and I think he had theright idea, right message, wrong
(35:43):
timing, wrong timing.
I think there could have been athousand different situations
where he could have personallystepped to Stephanie Smith off
camera.
I don't understand why you'regoing to do it on camera.
I think he knew what he wasdoing.
He wanted it to be a off camera.
I don't understand why you'regoing to do it on camera.
I think he knew what he wasdoing.
He wanted it to be a big thing.
Me personally, if I have aproblem with somebody, I'm not
(36:03):
going to speak to them in thespotlight.
I'm going to pull your side onthe corner.
Yo, let me talk to you.
You understand what I'm saying.
Right To me, that's moreman-to-man conversation, that's
more.
And when I say pause, it's it'sit's kind of more one-on-one,
it's more intimate.
Let you know I'm I'm serious.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
As far as, like doing the shit in the crowd, so all
the viewers and everything.
I think it was a publicitystunt on his part and I think,
uh, he shouldn't one.
That said, I remember when hesaid that Bronny was better than
most of these dudes in the NBA,and I also remember him saying
(36:45):
he said Bronny don't care aboutBronny, don't listen to the news
, bronny don't care about thatshit, what people say, so, and
so you know what I'm saying.
All he do is play.
So he made it seem like Bronnyblocks all of that out.
So obviously it's beginning tobother.
Bronny blocks all of that out,so obviously it's beginning to
bother Bronny.
And now he wants to write.
(37:05):
Like I said, right message,wrong timing.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Hey, I think the plan is for.
I mean, it's the right message,wrong timing, but but, but, but
what?
I think the plan is Bronny.
Bronny really feels like yo.
Brian is Brian really feelslike yo.
I don't want to keep up thisfacade, no more, because you
know what I think they're doing.
They're waiting for Bryce.
Bryce might think the youngestson.
I think this might be his lastyear.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So then he's going to go one year next year, then
he's going to go straight to theNBA.
After that, one year in college, then he's going to go to the
NBA and then LeBron's going toget it.
He probably made them a promise.
I promise that y'all going tobe playing on my team sons, I
promise you that.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, but I'm not sure that his kids even won that
.
I think this is LeBron James'dream.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't think he ever sat down.
Listen, man, I got a son.
I got a 15-year-old son, right?
I don't think it's my son'sdream to play on the same, even
if I was younger and more agilelet's just say I was 35.
I don't think my son wants toplay on a team of me.
Young guy, they want to playwith their pairs.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You understand.
But it's different.
You're looking at itdifferently, but would they
rather be pairs or LeBron James?
Their pairs are talking aboutyour father.
If your son was into basketballlike that and he had his father
that was like that, if you knowthat's the pinnacle, why
wouldn't you want to be there?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I'm sure they want the benefits of him getting them
in the NBA per se on the lakeor anything, but I'm really not
sure they want to be playingwith their father.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I know I hear you, but say Jay-Z had sons.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And they wanted to be aspiring rappers.
You don't think they would wantto be on the same stage as they
pops Maybe momentarily, but notcareer-wise, pops you would
don't.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Maybe momentarily, but not, not, not, not, not
career wise.
Eventually, they're going towant to spread their wings and
fly on their own.
True, I know I would.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
But, but I mean me too, but I, I think that I think
that it's just going to be likea, a big play, and then they're
going to LeBron's going, theboys are going to go overseas,
or something.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, like I'm not sure.
To me, bronny doesn't even looklike he wants this.
I think this is more from myperspective.
I think this is more of LeBronJames' dream, and I think this
is his flex To me.
When I look at Bronny's bodylanguage, to me it seems like he
doesn't even want to be there.
I don't know I could be readinghim wrong.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You understand what I'm saying he doesn't look too
enthusiastic to me, Right, right?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
right, you understand what I'm saying, right?
He just seems to look like he'sjust trying to make his father
happy.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Could be.
Who knows, Rich people problemsright.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Rich people problems.
Right, right, right, right,right, right, yo, and it's a
battle that I could pass becauseI moved from a certain area and
when I drive by there, I getlike an overwhelming feeling.
(40:08):
I get like a feeling insidelike this is where I used to
drive and park right here anddrink in the car.
I used to park here, I used topark here, I used to park there,
I used to park there and thisparticular neighborhood, and
then I passed certain liquorstores.
When I'm driving or when I'mwalking by, I'm like damn, I
used to be in that liquor store,man, and it's like I'm like
(40:33):
alcohol.
It felt like it was a good thing, but it really was like
something that that played apart of my life, but it was like
it stagnated me, bro, of course, because I looked at you know
what I looked at?
I looked at time, how much timeI got back, meaning that the
day that I say I drink, I'lldrink at night and I'll be
(40:56):
slammed the next day and I won'tget up until around 12 or some
shit like that.
Right, so now, like, say, like,now, like, like say, if I went
out last night, I wouldn't begetting up until around late in
the afternoon or late morning,right, but now I get up at five
in the morning almost every day.
So imagine me after every day Idrink, I'm losing five hours,
(41:20):
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then okay, say like I'll losefive.
Like say, two times, threetimes a week, that's 15 hours.
15 hours I would lose that I'mnot doing something productive.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Think about all the countless memories you lost
toward alcohol.
Yo, sometimes you know you runinto the old homies and stuff
and you talk and they'd be likeyo, you remember when you did
this or that, you'd be like whatFuck is you talking about,
nigga?
Yeah, I ain't never did that.
Yeah, nigga, we was right here.
You did that shit.
Yo, that's crazy.
(41:52):
Sometimes, when people tell methings that happen that I don't
remember, I'm like oh shit, robme of countless memories and you
put all those times and you addthat shit up.
That's fucking years off yourlife.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's years off your life, man.
Yeah, I started speaking to oneof the homies he was telling me
.
He said yo, mont.
I turned to one of them guys.
I said what are you talkingabout?
He said yo, I just went to aparty and I don't remember
anything from that night.
He said I don't rememberanything.
He said I went out with just aamount of money in my pocket and
(42:28):
I came home with nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I remember coming home Next day, get up don't know
where the fuck I parked my car.
Don't remember the fucking ridehome, bitch.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Me too Scary.
Yo, I did that in the city andI was like yo Many times I did
that.
I was like yo.
We did like a scavenger hunt.
There was like seven of us.
We walked up to one block oneblock, I'm telling you because
none of us.
We was all drunk and wecouldn't figure out where we
parked.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And think about how dangerous that was.
Man, you don't remember anyevents.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You don't remember.
Let me tell you.
One of the worst things aboutthat happened to me when I was
drinking, you know, I got fuckedup.
I came home and whatever Idon't remember nothing really
and then, until I got up thenext day, went to the bathroom.
You know, morning piss, I'mgoing to the bathroom.
Next thing I look to my right.
I see I see shit.
(43:22):
I see shit in the tub.
Yo kid, I was the only onethere.
I came home Cause, you know,after you get fucked up, you
always eat.
I came home and I thought thatprobably was the toilet, and I
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shit and I shit it in the tub,kid yo.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I ain't never get there.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I tell you man that's some different shit that was
wine on mind.
Yeah, wine on mind.
You know what's?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
crazy.
You know it's different typesof drunks, like there's the pass
out with.
You know it's different typesof drunks, Like there's a the
pass out with everybody.
You got on drunk.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm always that, no matter how drunk I am, I get
home I could be, take my, youknow, take, get organized, then
go to bed.
I always been that drunk.
I never been the type to passout and I might do.
I might go do that, getorganized, go lie down for a
while.
Then I got up early and I getup, so-and-so, but I was always
that organized, even if I flushthe toilet.
(44:25):
I'm just that type of drunk,you understand.
I know some people that's likethat.
We know a few pass out drunks,you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yes, things like that , so nobody have to ever tap you
in the club to wake you up, Iwas always able to have control.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I think it's just something mentally.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I always had control until I get home, until I hit
the bed.
I'll tell you that's why mydrinking.
It went from overwhelming likeoh, party, party, party.
As you get older my drinkingstarted making me sleepy After I
get twisted my last years I wasI would be the one yo.
Mine's gonna go to sleep in theclub, mine's sleeping.
(45:06):
I'll sleep on the way to theclub.
You know what I'm saying.
The alcohol was hitting me.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Different man you know what it sounds like.
It sounds like you was a moreyou was.
You was a different level, youwas an alcoholic man yeah, I
mean probably.
Yeah, there's different typesof alcoholic.
I think I'm more of a weekendwarrior alcoholic.
You sound like you was aneveryday alcoholic, right or
wrong?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
No, no, I wasn't drinking every day, but when I
drank, I drank like a warrior.
You understand, I drank with amission.
You know what I mean.
I wasn't playing around Like yo, listen.
A mission, you know I mean.
I wasn't playing around like yo, listen me.
And this bottle going down.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, me and this bottle here.
We ain't, we ain't friends.
Uh, no, I'm saying no.
No, I'm a different type ofdrinker.
I drink to.
I'm trying to get to a certainplace uh-huh I'm certain, get to
a certain level of drunknessand usually when I get there I
could stop.
Sometimes you still indulge,but I I never be like yo.
I'm gonna finish this bottle no, I never.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I never get to that place and just I never, no, no,
no, I never get to that.
Okay, it's a time to stop.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Place when it's time to stop yeah, I know, I have a
homeboy like that.
He's like once he started, hecan't stop I'm cooked, yeah,
yeah I always, always had a, athreshold where I reached I'm
like nah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
You know what I'm saying and then that's when I
started getting respect forbottles and I started giving
them first name basis like Ron,ron Bacardi or Jose you know
what I'm saying.
I started respecting the bottlea little differently.
But I'm glad journey that wasoverwhelming, that was taking
too much of my life away yeah,man really really.
Yeah, man Really, really,really yeah congratulations,
three years.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Like I know I said this before.
I want to get there.
Man, I'm a little fucked upfrom last night Went to my
cousin's sick birthday party,big up sick.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm a little fucked up.
Now.
You understand what I'm sayingand you know, as you get older
the after effects is muchdifferent.
It lingers.
Yeah, it lingers more Like youknow when you was young boom,
(46:59):
you drink a lot.
Boom get up good, boom.
I'm probably going to be in asullen place for the rest of the
day.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Right, right right, right, right right, you know
with the after effects of thisalcohol.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
What about with you like, say, after getting drunk
like that, do you have liquorcraps?
What do you have?
Liquor craps, liquor craps youprobably don't.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Liquor craps is like you got the liquor shits.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especiallywhen I used to um drink the
brown liquor or do you don't?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I mean I, you don't have like I would.
Let me tell you that.
Let me tell you that's what theproblem was.
A lot of the problem would belike okay, I'm going to get up
late and then like say I hadsome things to do, like the
family you got to stay in thehouse I gotta stay because I
guess I don't want to take acrap.
And I don't want to take a crapbecause the crap is going to
come automatically and I gottago now yeah, that that used to
happen when I was dealing withbrown liquor.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
I know everybody's different.
You know alcohol affectscertain people differently.
I'm more of a clear liquor guynow I I realized when I used to
drink the brown liquor slashhennessy.
Yeah, the next day I'll be inthe bathroom all day, my stomach
be turned upside down.
But now I'm more of a tequiladude and I don't really suffer
with that anymore since I madethe switch.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Oh, okay, you understand what I'm saying.
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,yeah man.
So yeah, man, this is.
It's been a good episode, man.
It's been a good episode, man.
I want to make a closingstatement saying that people got
to take heed to what life isman and take advantage of what's
(48:26):
going on now and just don'twait.
You can't lose if you don't try.
You can't lose if you don't try, man.
A lot of people are reluctant.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You don't take them.
You ride that bench for nottaking shots.
Now, coach, be like oh, comeout the game.
You don't want to shoot, wedon't find somebody that's going
to shoot for you, man.
So people take your shots, man,and productive shots now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow what I mean.
And shoot for the stars, man,even if you don't land where you
(49:00):
want to land.
You can't say you didn't try,man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, man, my closest statement is pleasure to be
back in this forum.
You understand it's been awhile I missed it.
Always good, like I said,always good to be in company
with a good friend.
You know what I'm saying.
We've been friends for over 20years, you know, in a good place
.
You're a good dude, you know.
(49:24):
And I see you for everything youdo, all the positivity in your
life, and I also want to give ashout out to my cousin, sherry
Berry.
She's on a little hiatus.
She'll be back soon.
You understand what I'm saying.
Big up, sherry, you understand.
And, like I said, this, this,this feels like home, this is a
form, this is our home.
There's a lot more to come andI'm just looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir, and this is the your
opinion doesn't matter podcast,and we are outie.
Yeah, peace, peace, peace.
Welcome.
Welcome to the your OpinionDoesn't Matter podcast.
I am one of the hosts, mrLamont, and I'm here with a good
friend of mine, co-host BlackJesus.
How are you doing, bro?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm good.
I'm good man.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm good man, I'm good, I'm maintaining man,
Maintaining man.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No doubt.
No doubt, it's been a littlewhile.
It's always good to be in thepresence of greatness.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, man, Feelings mutual bro, Feelings mutual man.
So the new year started.
This is our first recordingtogether for the new year.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No doubt, Happy New Year B.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, happy New Year, man.
How's things been going for you, man?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
New year.
It's a new year and it bringsthe good and the bad.
There's a lot of positivethings, there's a lot of
uncertainty.
There's a lot of things wecan't control.
You know what I'm saying, but Iguess that's just how it goes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
We can't fight certain things,but we can just try to grow and
be happy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Try to grow and be happy man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you know, I've been feeling in a rut, shall I
say.
You know what I mean.
I've been through differentsituations yeah different
situations To be like andhearing certain people say
certain things to you um, bringsyour morale down.
(01:25):
Like my um, my uncle-in-law.
He was complaining to my fianceabout his brother being sick,
so forth and so on, and then hefound out he was okay.
Everybody was like, oh they,they blew it out proportion.
But then he says to me you know, you know, he's older, he's
older than me a couple years,older than a couple years.
(01:45):
Then he's like you know, we um,you know we're not gonna live
forever.
You know we all gotta go.
But I'm like to myself, I'mlike why you gotta talk like
that, bro, to myself?
I'm like why you gotta if, ifyou know what you know, what's
the the purpose of telling otherpeople that?
(02:06):
And don't you think everybodyknow that Nobody's immortal, you
understand?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I hear you, but you know, unfortunately, when you
hit the ripe age of like 50,like us, whether you try to
think about it or not, yourmortality comes into question.
And some people they try tothink about it less than others,
but at some point in your lifeyou actually got to start
thinking about it, becausethings around you just start
changing for the worse, you know, and can get depressing
(02:34):
sometime.
And I think some people theytry to occupy their time and try
not to think about it.
But even at a certain time it'sgoing to come.
It's going to come and you'regoing to have to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know what I'm saying, and I mean that's just
how life goes.
I mean, I think about it oftentoo more, more so than I did in
my 40s, you know right yeah,yeah, it's like you come face to
face with, with life and thingsthat you're unprepared for
right now, know, and you'reseeing people that you grew up
(03:05):
with, your peers.
You're just hearing aunts,uncles, friends.
They just they're slowly butsurely leaving us and you know
it gets, frankly, it getsdepressing sometimes, man.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, man, you know, I mean I try not to think of it
to that on that level, but it'swhat I'm doing while I'm here.
Okay, let me try to build theempire so that you know what,
what I leave behind or somethingyou know.
I mean I don't even liketalking about leave behind.
It's what I'm putting togethernow is going to be, is going to,
it's going to stand the test oftime.
(03:36):
You know, I'm saying it's goingto, it's going to be.
Now I'm going to be onlyremembered for my family, but
remembered for everything.
You know, I'm saying that'sgonna, that that's how I look at
, that's how I would prepare,that's how I prepare my mind for
, okay, the, the um, you know,the, the so-called end, that
things that we can't stop.
It's like I'm not gonna ponder,I'm not gonna just sit back and
(03:57):
like, okay, just let let theage creep up on me and or this,
that and the third, and notthinking about getting healthy.
So when I was saying I was in arut, um, because I had that, it
felt like a defeating mindsetin a way, like, okay, well, I'm
gonna throw myself in a home orsomething, you know I mean, but
even though I'm not feeling thatway.
But I started like I said, waita minute, let me just get super
(04:21):
, super, let me, let me do achange, let me challenge myself
to a change, um, physically inmy life.
Because I started, um, I starteddoing, trying to do some yoga,
and I realized, like yo, why Ican't move my leg, like india, I
said, oh shit, I'm like yo,this left leg is bugging, so I
(04:44):
wind up when I want to go to gym.
Actually, on the personaltrainer dudes, they was like oh
man, you got your hips, man, yougotta do something with your
hips, yeah, yeah.
So then I just started, I'mjust starting now, I'm just
starting to really get into likethe yoga I'm trying to and
really starting to know, know,know my body and and really
trying to reverse, reverse theway the body functions.
(05:04):
It's like how we start off slim, we gain weight and then we
just start getting dumpy.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And to piggyback on that, guyslike us that are, you know, six
feet plus, you know as we getolder we need to slim down
because you know, being so tall,the heart works harder,
especially if you carry a lot ofweight.
So the wise thing to do is toslim down so you can take it
easy on your heart, to have somekind of longevity.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And to go on to what you're saying.
You know, try not to thinkabout you know what's going to
happen after you know I'm gone.
But realistically you've got toput some thought to it because
sooner or later it's going to bea reality and you've got to
kind of set up your people to beokay.
It's nothing, we don't want totalk about it, but you have to
(05:59):
deal.
You've got to deal with itsometimes.
You've got to come to termswith it and you've got to start
setting up.
You know your people for lifewithout you, you know, you just
cannot think about it becausethe next thing you know you just
want to make sure the ones thatyou loved is okay when you go
out.
And I mean it's okay to thinkabout it.
I think it's good to thinkabout it.
(06:19):
I don't know, bro, you can't bein denial man.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, but it's like I mean, but what are you thinking
about?
Like, what is that thought?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
like, I want to make sure my people my wife and kids
are able to function wellfinancially when I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Oh no, but that is different.
That's different the way me andyou saying the same thing, but
the way my fiancé how he wassaying it.
It had nothing to do withsetting up this family with this
.
It had nothing to do with this.
It's like yo, we got to go.
Most likely your uncle'sprobably depressed.
It sounded like it.
(06:58):
He sounded like he's trying tobring me to a depressed party.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
A lot of people who, once you hit their 50s, they get
depressed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm like, yo like relax man, I'm still
fighting the fight, you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in a different state
of mind.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I'm sure he's in a low state of mind where he's not
you, you got the me and yousaying the same thing setting up
the family like that.
That's what we're saying, butthe way he's coming at it, I'm
like come on, man, please stayover there.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stay over there, man, stay over there I hear you, I
hear you, I guess I get yousaying now yeah, yeah yeah, well
, by the way, congratulations,man.
I know that that, that that dayis coming soon to you and your
fiance, right?
Oh yeah you're all about to getthere right oh yeah man, oh
yeah man.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So, um, yeah, man, I'm about to take that big step
and get get married.
You know, um pretty soon, butum, I said we had to.
Um, we have some things that wegotta solve first, so I don't
currently, me and my me and myfiance, we in therapy therapy,
slash counseling slashcounseling like I mean, when you
say counseling like, um,they're the therapy, they're
(08:06):
just talking straight up anddown about who we are.
What are we doing now?
I don't know.
I don't know what the processas far as um marriage counseling
is, I don't know.
Are they, are they foreseeingwhat y'all need to do as a
couple?
Um, what, what is?
What is that like?
What is it?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
yeah, well, first of all, uh, like I says, uh, I've
been, I've been happily married.
We're going on 13 years rightnow and uh, at the beginning
before the reverend married us,we, when we spoke to him he was
like yo listen, man, beforey'all get married, y'all gotta
take y'all gotta take marriagecounseling.
He's like why, why is that?
(08:44):
He's like I'm not going tomarry you unless you'll take
counseling.
We got to sit there and we gotto talk, we got to discuss what
marriage is about and what ittakes to have a fruitful
marriage and make sure you twopeople have and are getting
married for the right reason andwe had about three sessions and
let me tell you something, itwas very beneficial to our
(09:07):
marriage.
It gave us a betterunderstanding of marriage and
what it's about.
And you know, some people thinkyou just get married, it's just
like it's just ceremonial, andthen you're married.
Nah, it's a lot of things thatcome with it, man, and so I
recommend counseling to theutmost degree.
You could be living, let metell, tell you something you
could be living with somebodyfor uh, three, four years, but
(09:28):
the day after you marry them,day after, it's different man,
different walk.
It's like I don't know how toexplain.
It's like you cross over to amore spiritual realm and and you
kind of give up yourindependence and you become
cohesive until y'all become oneand you got to share all the
decision, everything is you andher.
You understand, yeah, it's likea bonding right, right, right,
(09:52):
right, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And I'm, you know, I'm, I'm learning.
I'm learning things aboutmyself.
Um, I'm learning, I'm learninga lot that I got to be more
present.
I got to be more present in myrelationship.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What do you mean?
Physically or mentally?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mentally, mentally.
Yes, I got to be more mentallypresent and really listen to my
fiance when she this is what shewants and this is what she
needs.
You know what I'm saying.
Sometimes, when you're withsomebody for a long time, like
you, you ignore the littlethings, yeah, that make make us
tick yes, and then and then next.
(10:32):
You know, when you ignore that,we ain't tick, talking no more.
You know I'm saying so, it'slike it's off you know, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It is imperative that you listen and you be there
physically and mentally and tryto take in what your fiance is
saying and you know, when youget married.
It's a lot of anticipating now.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like you know, your wife gives you little hints.
Yeah, wife don't always want totell you exactly what to do.
Women are like that.
They want to tell you exactly,they want to drop a little hint
and they want you to pick up andgo with it.
You know what I'm saying Right,right, right.
The quicker you learn that, thebetter marriage you have.
You understand.
Yeah, I do, and you know what,during counseling, what was
(11:14):
amazing, the Reverend he's likeyou know what was the number one
factor to people gettingdivorced for marriage?
And we used to talk we doinfidelity, so-and-so this and
that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Guess what it was.
What's that term?
Unreconciled differences.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Negative Finances.
Finances, they said.
People get divorced at a higherrate from lack of finances.
That's the number one factorwith people getting divorced.
So before you get married, ifthere's any financial issues,
it's better to put it out in theopen.
Let your mate know what they'redealing with you understand
(11:55):
what I'm saying, right.
Because if you live in a facadeand you act and then you get
married and then she finds outthings are not really what
they're like, a lot of women arejust not going to stick around.
You know and, more importantly,you want somebody that if
you're going through a financialstruggle, you got to know
(12:17):
they're going to be there withyou and they're going to hit you
on with you and take the lowswith the highs with you and not
bail out on you.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And that's a big factor in my marriage.
What I love about my wife is,you know, in marriage, like I
said, marriage is a rollercoaster.
It's ups and downs, but youjust got to hang on.
You understand and stay for theride.
And I've been up and I've beendown and during the downs my
(12:47):
wife hang on with me and shesaid you know what we down
together.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
that's what's up, and then we're going to go up
together.
And it was times where she hada how could I say?
She had to take the driver'sseat for a little while.
Sometimes I was down, she heldme down, boom, boom, boom.
You got to make sure they don'ttreat you different, because
sometimes when a woman has totake the driver's seat, then she
tries to belittle you and makeyou feel less than a man.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right, right.
My wife is not like that.
Do that all the time when shehad to hold me down.
Still, let me feel like a man.
Still let me run the ship.
You understand what, right?
Right right, right rightBecause at the end of all women,
you really got to always make aman feel like he's a man, and
once you start belittling himand make him feel less than a
man, that's also going to bringproblems.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It'll bring problems.
It'll bring problems,definitely it'll bring problems.
And you just like when a womanwant to flex her muscles, yeah,
you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
She want to flex her muscles when they.
But the thing about it is it'ssupposed to be natural.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
The man is supposed to be the sole provider.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, the man is the driver, but sometimes the woman.
The man is the driver, thewoman helps navigate you
understand what I'm saying.
Right facts but there's goingto be times where you're going
to need her to drive for alittle while.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Facts, facts, facts, facts, facts.
That's true, that's true, man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But majority of the time the man is the sole
provider, he's the leader, he'sthe driver, you understand.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, but when you stand off, course you need a
woman to be there.
Like listen, you know you standa little off to the left, you
know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need tomake a you know, right, right,
right, right, Stay on focus,girl.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Right, right, right, right, yeah, right, pilot, you
dig facts, man.
You know you hold themstairwell for a little bit.
Girl, hold the stairwell.
You know I mean yeah, yeah,yeah, you know we're gonna get
there, we get there.
No doubt you know when youdrive we go slower, but we're
gonna get there yeah, hey,sometimes listen, sometimes she
(14:36):
see things you can't see that'sa fact yeah, you know when you
drive.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know when you drive a driver.
You know drivers can't seeeverything because he's more
focused on the road.
It's other shit on the side andthat guy to be like yo boom
watch that right there.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, exactly oh shit , I didn't even see that.
Good luck, you know, exactly,exactly, exactly.
And um, you know it wasinteresting, interesting, right?
Um you saying far as what yousee, right?
Um, there's this, there's thisdude, right that?
Um, I always, I always see, youknow he always like tags me,
(15:08):
not always, he tags me, like atleast once every two weeks in a
post, but you know that's one ofthem tags when, like, 99 people
were in it.
I'm like yo, why does he keep?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
tagging me.
I hate that group but then.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
but then one time, a couple times, he would comment
on my stories, yeah.
So then I'm like, oh okay, allright.
So this is not no real spamtype of dude, you know I mean,
because he's engaging, a coupletimes he would comment on my
stories, yeah.
So then I'm like, oh okay, allright, so this is not no real
spam type of dude, you know whatI mean, because he's engaging.
So now he had put a post aboutschools.
Like you know, pta Make a longstory short.
He's in a PTA of my old school,the school that I was trying to
(15:42):
get into, ps235.
I was trying to get in there aprogram.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So getting to the point where you just certain
things you just don't see.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And me and him got on the phone just last week and he
was talking about theopportunity of us working
together, right Me trying topresent my program to the school
, so forth and so on.
And he said like this he saidyou know.
He said I knew you for overlike 18 years, yeah.
And he said that me and younever talked.
We just did like this, we justhead nod.
But I found that interesting.
(16:18):
I found that interesting thatyou could see certain things,
see certain people, but you justkeep it at a cordial level.
But you don't know that goodconversation what it could lead
to.
You never know what a goodconversation could lead you to.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's definitely things inlife that you can't see, no
matter how focused you are.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah, would you tell a personthe truth and they will hate you
, or let the situation live in alie?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think, as a friend for a friend or a friend
remember even though a friend,it got to depend the
relationship with that friend.
You know, you got to have anunderstanding of that person.
Some people can't handle thetruth.
You know what I'm saying.
Some people they'll ask for thetruth and then when you give
them the truth, then they'lltake it away and they might not
(17:18):
want to ever speak to you againin your life.
Some people are more adept ataccepting the truth than others.
Some people are overlysensitive.
I am a truth guy.
I want the truth 24-7, even ifit hurts.
Yeah, tell me the truth.
You know.
I think that's kind of an oldschool way of thinking, like yo
give it to me straight, I'malways yo give it to me straight
.
You want this or you don't wantthat?
(17:39):
Boom, let me know, boom.
But some people now, especiallyI find in these times now,
people are overly sensitive andyou give them the truth.
And first, of all, the firstterm, that they're going to say
is you're hating on me.
You understand I'm saying orthey don't want to accept it and
they think you're just tryingto put them down.
(18:02):
You understand, like I said,I'm a person.
I want the truth.
But most people nowadays I findthey don't want the truth.
But my family members uh,brothers, sisters I give them
the truth right because theyknow me.
That's, that's how I am, youunderstand close friends, yo you
want'm going to tell you this.
Now You're fucking up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know the thing about this People don't like to
hear that truth, People don'twant to hear that People, family
, family, friends they don'twant to hear it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My family, my immediate family.
They know I'm the truth.
They know they come to me.
I'm going to give you the truth.
I don't want you to live a lie.
I want you to fix what's wrongand get on a brighter future,
straighter road.
If you understand what I'msaying?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, but you see, a lot of times people don't you
say fix what's wrong.
A lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
They don't believe anything's wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They don't believe what they got going on is wrong.
Like what?
Nah, my blue suede shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, no, no, no, no no , no, yeah, the society has got
soft over the last 15, 20 years.
It just seems that especiallymen, men have become I mean, I
hate to say it, men have becomea lot more feminized man.
They're more into theirfeelings.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm telling you, people don't like to look in the
mirror, bro.
People hate it.
People hate it, people hate it,man, and they'll point out your
flaws and everything like that.
It's people usually have themost flaws.
Be the one to tell you who whothink they could tell you about
you better than you yeah, yeah,like I said, people nowadays
they want, they don't take anyaccountability, they don't.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
They don't want to be the one that's wrong.
They want to.
They want to blame it on otherthings.
They want to be the one that'swrong.
They want to blame it on otherthings.
They want to deflect.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know you're going to hear a funny story, right,
it's not, people aren't going toreally find it too funny.
But hey, we're going to touchon this real quick.
Right, because we wanted abigger panel.
We was talking about some ofthe decisions Trump made, right?
But I'm going to parallel thiswith my own personal story,
(19:59):
because we wanted a bigger panel.
We was talking about some ofthe decisions Trump made, right?
Yeah, but I'm going to parallelthis with my own personal story
where, when Trump got rid ofthe pronouns, it's just man and
woman, man and woman, that's itright, that's a great thing.
That's a great thing, but youknow, the people who stand for
those are the ones that's reallyin outrage.
They really, really, reallydon't.
They really, really, reallydon't like that they don't like
(20:20):
that and um, you know they, theyfind, they find that like hold
on, what about our equality orwhat about we're being trapped?
You know it was going as far asum okaying surgeries for little
kids that they felt that wastrapped in, like a boy trapped
in a girl's body, okayingsurgery for certain things like
(20:41):
that you know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I mean that's a touchy subject, but that old
boy trapped in a girl's body, Ithink that's somewhat ridiculous
and I think that's a form ofmental illness.
Personally, I think thosepeople they need to see a
psychiatrist before they need togo and see a doctor to get a
sex change.
I mean, that's just how I feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I mean, we're going to try to try lightly
until we have a bigger panel andthen we can, you know, do a
deep dive into this.
But let me talk about mysituation, right, I don't even
know if I told you.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Therapy is good always.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm going to physical therapy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, it's physical therapy Physical Still the same
thing.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right, and I'm in.
It's the first time I'm therewith there's Filipinos.
Yeah, I'm like okay, and theygot.
You know, I went to a couple oftherapy places.
They got different techniques.
They got this technique theyusing is different.
I'm like, okay, and they giveyou massages and stuff like that
, right?
So I'm in there and I'm lookingat, I'm looking at like two of
(21:46):
them.
I'm like, ah, look, I don'tknow.
I'm like I don't know, bro, I'mlike eh.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, you don't know whether it's a male or female.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, female or female is notorious
for that shit.
But then, you know, now I'mgetting the massage with my head
down right, and then I'mlooking at the sneakers, I'm
peeping the sneakers, right.
I'm like, all right, let me seethat person's face and then I
tie it to their sneakers.
So then I'm like two times thisindividual gave me a massage
(22:21):
and I'm like no.
And then the third time, afterthe massage, I felt like you
know, you finished, you're aboutto walk away.
I felt like a tap, like rightin the middle of my back, like
I'm like after the massage, likewalking away and a tap in the
middle of my back.
I'm like after the massage,walking away and a tap in the
middle of my back.
I'm like, yo, this person'sgetting way too into this.
(22:46):
I felt like it was personal,intimate, intimate, intimate.
Yeah right.
It was like yo, whatever's goingon here, I was like yo.
So I tell my fiance, I say yo.
I say yo, I don't know man, Idon't know what's going on.
(23:06):
She's there laughing, shelaughing.
I say yo, it ain't funny, itain't funny, right.
So the next time I went, theowner, a sexual married guy,
wife and all that stuff, theother workers wasn't there yet I
said I said I'm actually aquestion that person I've been
(23:28):
giving massage is is that a, isthat a tranny?
He looks at me and says huh, isthat a tranny?
He looks at me and says huh.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
He heard you.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I said is that person a tranny?
Is that person a man?
He says yes.
I said no, I don't want.
I'm the same way.
I said I don't want no moremassages from him.
He says okay, I understand.
(23:57):
I mean actually your opinion,man.
When you go into establishments, give you that option to say
yay or nay or just be like okay.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They should give you the option to say yay or nay.
That's what's wrong with thisnew I hate to say this, but with
this new fucking world youshould Just, like you know in
general, socially, there's likeyou know in general socially,
there's like you know they gotmen out in the clubs posing as
women.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And they letting them in no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They had a sexual party and then you know, if they
fool somebody and then it getsto a point where the person
finds out and then they end upand pose a physical harm on them
, you're the wrong one, but Ifeel you should let her know
from the get-go what you areright.
You know what I'm saying.
Just to give, just to give theother person an option, the
option to decide whether I wantto deal with you or not.
(24:44):
You understand, I'm the sameway.
I'm in when I go to therapy.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't want no, I'm saying I might, might see the
sexes, but I don't want no manmassaging me actually went to a
massage parlor with my fianceand and she knows, I, I, me and
her both had women massaging us.
She, I'm on one table, she's onone table, that's how it is.
My only option was a um.
There was no other women, therewas the.
Was the um heterosexual?
(25:07):
The guy who was running theplace and I had I let him do it?
Yeah, so I mean, I don't feelno way about that, but the
chance the train you should havean option.
Have an option, yeah, yeah andand afterwards the Chinese never
spoke to me again.
I'm like, all right, cool, butyou know what I'm saying is like
.
But then you, let me tell you,let me tell you what's, let me
tell you what's bugged out aboutthat.
Like a month later there's thiselderly guy I'm hearing, I'm
(25:33):
hearing him flirting with her.
I'm hearing, and she's likeshe's batting her eyes because
she would walk out of thesliding room and she's batting
her eyes.
I'm like, damn, this older guymight not even know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Let me tell you something that nigga might not
even care.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Probably right, you know what I'm saying.
He probably don't even care,man, yeah, some people don't
even care.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But guys like us, old school, mean potato guys.
You understand what I'm saying.
Yeah, we want to know whatwe're dealing with At all times.
I want to know what I'm dealingwith Facts.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Imagine you catching a wine and it's a guy, yeah yeah
, yeah, you know about the wholestory.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But let me tell you a funnier story.
But I wasn't there, I onlyheard about it.
They was in Trinny and there'sa crew of them in Trinny and one
of them a good song was on.
One of them went and bucked upbehind a so-called thing with
long Indian hair.
(26:35):
And then you know the thingabout it is.
Let me tell you the bug, thatpart is this In the West Indian
culture the man you know what?
Already the man would take awine from somebody behind him,
like, say, like a family memberor something like that, or a
girl get up on you and grind itbehind you.
So that's what it was.
(26:55):
Homeboy wasn't gay.
So in other words, the guy wentbehind the other guy.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So the guy who was in front looked like a woman was
dancing, thinking that this wasa woman behind him.
Oh yeah, okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Thinking this was a woman behind him.
Yeah, okay, I got you Thinkingthis was a woman behind him.
So he's grinding, grinding backand next thing, you know, he
probably felt a ting on him.
He turned around.
Yeah, he turned around and hesaid Bula, Bula, Bula Yo Yo.
(27:36):
You turn around and they callhim a bula.
I said oh, shit.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Let me tell you something, man it's mad tricky
out there now.
That's why it's a good thingthat you're settling down to get
married because, believe me,you don't want to be out there.
There's all kind of how could Icall it?
There's a lot of sheeps inwolf's clothing, you understand
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, man, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So if you're out there like indulging, then it's
not a good time, especially fora heterosexual man.
I mean, I'm just going to sayit.
It's not a good time becausethere's a lot of shit out there
that'll fool you, get you fuckedup.
(28:20):
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, so to have the sanctuary.
You're having your wife, yourwoman at home and you know you
got something good at homeyou're.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You're in a safe space.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I feel sorry.
I feel sorry for the, for dudesout there now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, she crazy yeah, and it's like it's.
It's rough, man, just even uh,to put people in a situation
like that.
I mean, I feel, I feel that youshould be able to go to like a
particular part of town whereyou know everybody is like that
(28:52):
and then do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It used to be like that.
Remember back in the days.
Like you know.
You knew back in the days youknew.
You don know.
You knew back in the days youknew.
You don't go to the villagebecause you know what's over
there, you understand what I'msaying yeah, you knew.
Yeah, you knew, you knew.
But now, what did they call it?
It's an integration movement.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Inclusion, inclusion, you got to Like they're regular
.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, Even in the school system too.
It's a whole thing with acampaign of inclusion.
Now Everybody needs to becategorized the same, which I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And I'm not with it.
I don't understand it, but Ibelieve in people being
categorized in certain groups.
I believe in categorization andseparation.
Big advocate for that.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, it's not easy, man.
It's not easy, man, likeyesterday I went to have my
daughter, my daughter's six, andwe was.
I was at a.
We was at a place, a locationwhere they had bathrooms with
like stalls and all that stufflike that so then I go to the
(30:07):
bathroom, right, but then it'slike there's a woman and there's
men.
So I'm like, I'm like mydaughter, she can't, I'm not
gonna let you in there.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I can't go in there and she can't go in the woman's
bathroom with her.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, so I bring her to the man's bathroom.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
She there crying, just standing there.
That's a crazy situation, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But then think about it Now imagine if I say, okay,
you're a big girl going to thebathroom, and then she's in
there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And there's a man, physical man, coming out of
there.
I'll be furious that mydaughter was in there for like
five minutes already.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But then this person that I don't know what you call
them, but say they was inanother store.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't subscribe to that man.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I don't subscribe to that we're not with that Fire
for that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You stay in your own.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Stay in your own man.
You are what you are.
You are what you was born withman.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Stop trying to change .
You can't change what God gaveyou, man, you know what I'm
saying.
Yeah man, yeah man, sit down,get your shit together.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But they say God don't make no mistakes, right
Shit.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So why are you trying to fix shit?
Yeah, right, yeah, the onlyones that I say that.
People are going to probablytry to cancel me, but as I said
the hermaphrodites Speak yourmind huh, like hermaphrodites,
they're the only ones that couldprobably go either way to me.
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
mean Yo, shit's so crazy nowadays I ain't even hear
about that term in forever.
A merphidite, uh-huh?
Yeah, that's the one that hasthe two has the penis and the
vagina, right?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
There They've been drowned out, everything that's
been going on, because you knowit, and white thing, yeah, we
trying to get that pie together,black and white, yeah, but then
now we got the LGBT and otherletters coming in carving out,
(32:05):
yeah, which is what is the part?
What should we prioritize?
And it's not the same fight.
And it's not the same fight.
But what makes it worse isbeing to being a minority and in
that group.
So you got you, it's two, it'stwo things, that's.
That's that that you up against.
You know, I'm saying not onlythat you, black, or your
minority, yeah, and you and yourfaith, you're trying to fight,
(32:26):
you trying to climb uphill withthat.
You want equality like that.
Look at me like this.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So nah bro, yeah, and the the whole, or I want to be
like now.
You couldn't be.
Who the you?
You think you want to be?
If you want to, you know I wantto be.
I want to be a king, youunderstand.
I want to be now just king.
Call me king.
Well, I want.
That is ridiculous, right?
I don't even see why people,even why society, is even paying
(32:54):
them any mind.
I mean, I just don't understandit.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, man, it's rough , it's rough.
Man, it's rough, it's rough,it's a rough world I feel.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Sometimes.
I look at my kids and I be likeDad, y'all gonna it's not gonna
get no better man.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, it's not gonna get no better, but things did
get better though, bro.
You know what got better as far, bro.
You know what got better as faras what?
And and um.
Technology got better,resources got better, but the
way of thinking changed.
It matured, but it went adifferent direction.
It didn't improve.
It didn't improve society.
It didn't improve.
(33:29):
No dead people are trying tofigure it out on a small scale.
It's a big scale to them, butit's a small scale compared to
the to the.
We went from black and white tvto color tv of course, of
course, that's right to the tothe evolving as a person.
Yeah to tv on your phone.
Yeah to um, to to um.
Get sitting at the back of thebus.
You can't use the um, the samewater fountain.
(33:49):
Fighting that fight now we, we,we growing and for us, like you
know, I mean like yo, let's and, as I said, black, black and
white TV, the color TV, thethings that's changing, that we
was making monumental steps andthen now it's just like now.
It's just this big, big, biggumbo with different issues, and
(34:11):
the main issue is not aboutblack and white and inequality.
There's so much things into it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, human nature is in a frenzy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Man, human beings is in a frenzy right now it's all
over the place, man yeah, man,it's all over the place, like
you said.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, things were a lot more simple when we was
growing up, you understand yeahlive in a very complex world
right now yeah, man yeah manthey said, um, but hey, we here.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
We here to make it better.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, we're going to try to make it better,
especially for our kids, youunderstand.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, man, the only thing we got.
All we doing is fighting that.
Fight for the children, man.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Fighting the fight for the children man.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, but yo let me ask you a question, man.
This is about your boy, lebronJames.
Yo did you see that?
Did you see when the Lakers wasplaying the Knicks and LeBron
trotted over to him and thethird quarter timeout for
(35:10):
Stephen A Smith and he had wordsfor him?
You talking about my son, youdon't talk about my son.
What's your thoughts on?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
that.
You know I'm not a greatadvocate for LeBron James.
I think he's a great person offthe court.
But as far as on the court, I'mnot an advocate for LeBron
James and I think he had theright idea, right message, wrong
(35:43):
timing, wrong timing.
I think there could have been athousand different situations
where he could have personallystepped to Stephanie Smith off
camera.
I don't understand why you'regoing to do it on camera.
I think he knew what he wasdoing.
He wanted it to be a off camera.
I don't understand why you'regoing to do it on camera.
I think he knew what he wasdoing.
He wanted it to be a big thing.
Me personally, if I have aproblem with somebody, I'm not
(36:03):
going to speak to them in thespotlight.
I'm going to pull your side onthe corner.
Yo, let me talk to you.
You understand what I'm saying.
Right To me, that's moreman-to-man conversation, that's
more.
And when I say pause, it's it'sit's kind of more one-on-one,
it's more intimate.
Let you know I'm I'm serious.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
As far as, like doing the shit in the crowd, so all
the viewers and everything.
I think it was a publicitystunt on his part and I think,
uh, he shouldn't one.
That said, I remember when hesaid that Bronny was better than
most of these dudes in the NBA,and I also remember him saying
(36:45):
he said Bronny don't care aboutBronny, don't listen to the news
, bronny don't care about thatshit, what people say, so, and
so you know what I'm saying.
All he do is play.
So he made it seem like Bronnyblocks all of that out.
So obviously it's beginning tobother.
Bronny blocks all of that out,so obviously it's beginning to
bother Bronny.
And now he wants to write.
(37:05):
Like I said, right message,wrong timing.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Hey, I think the plan is for.
I mean, it's the right message,wrong timing, but but, but, but
what?
I think the plan is Bronny.
Bronny really feels like yo.
Brian is Brian really feelslike yo.
I don't want to keep up thisfacade, no more, because you
know what I think they're doing.
They're waiting for Bryce.
Bryce might think the youngestson.
I think this might be his lastyear.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So then he's going to go one year next year, then
he's going to go straight to theNBA.
After that, one year in college, then he's going to go to the
NBA and then LeBron's going toget it.
He probably made them a promise.
I promise that y'all going tobe playing on my team sons, I
promise you that.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, but I'm not sure that his kids even won that
.
I think this is LeBron James'dream.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't think he ever sat down.
Listen, man, I got a son.
I got a 15-year-old son, right?
I don't think it's my son'sdream to play on the same, even
if I was younger and more agilelet's just say I was 35.
I don't think my son wants toplay on a team of me.
Young guy, they want to playwith their pairs.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
You understand.
But it's different.
You're looking at itdifferently, but would they
rather be pairs or LeBron James?
Their pairs are talking aboutyour father.
If your son was into basketballlike that and he had his father
that was like that, if you knowthat's the pinnacle, why
wouldn't you want to be there?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I'm sure they want the benefits of him getting them
in the NBA per se on the lakeor anything, but I'm really not
sure they want to be playingwith their father.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I know I hear you, but say Jay-Z had sons.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And they wanted to be aspiring rappers.
You don't think they would wantto be on the same stage as they
pops Maybe momentarily, but notcareer-wise, pops you would
don't.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Maybe momentarily, but not, not, not, not, not
career wise.
Eventually, they're going towant to spread their wings and
fly on their own.
True, I know I would.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
But, but I mean me too, but I, I think that I think
that it's just going to be likea, a big play, and then they're
going to LeBron's going, theboys are going to go overseas,
or something.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, like I'm not sure.
To me, bronny doesn't even looklike he wants this.
I think this is more from myperspective.
I think this is more of LeBronJames' dream, and I think this
is his flex To me.
When I look at Bronny's bodylanguage, to me it seems like he
doesn't even want to be there.
I don't know I could be readinghim wrong.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You understand what I'm saying he doesn't look too
enthusiastic to me, Right, right?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
right, you understand what I'm saying, right?
He just seems to look like he'sjust trying to make his father
happy.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Could be.
Who knows, Rich people problemsright.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Rich people problems.
Right, right, right, right,right, right, yo, and it's a
battle that I could pass becauseI moved from a certain area and
when I drive by there, I getlike an overwhelming feeling.
(40:08):
I get like a feeling insidelike this is where I used to
drive and park right here anddrink in the car.
I used to park here, I used topark here, I used to park there,
I used to park there and thisparticular neighborhood, and
then I passed certain liquorstores.
When I'm driving or when I'mwalking by, I'm like damn, I
used to be in that liquor store,man, and it's like I'm like
(40:33):
alcohol.
It felt like it was a good thing, but it really was like
something that that played apart of my life, but it was like
it stagnated me, bro, of course, because I looked at you know
what I looked at?
I looked at time, how much timeI got back, meaning that the
day that I say I drink, I'lldrink at night and I'll be
(40:56):
slammed the next day and I won'tget up until around 12 or some
shit like that.
Right, so now, like, say, like,now, like, like say, if I went
out last night, I wouldn't begetting up until around late in
the afternoon or late morning,right, but now I get up at five
in the morning almost every day.
So imagine me after every day Idrink, I'm losing five hours,
(41:20):
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then okay, say like I'll losefive.
Like say, two times, threetimes a week, that's 15 hours.
15 hours I would lose that I'mnot doing something productive.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Think about all the countless memories you lost
toward alcohol.
Yo, sometimes you know you runinto the old homies and stuff
and you talk and they'd be likeyo, you remember when you did
this or that, you'd be like whatFuck is you talking about,
nigga?
Yeah, I ain't never did that.
Yeah, nigga, we was right here.
You did that shit.
Yo, that's crazy.
(41:52):
Sometimes, when people tell methings that happen that I don't
remember, I'm like oh shit, robme of countless memories and you
put all those times and you addthat shit up.
That's fucking years off yourlife.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's years off your life, man.
Yeah, I started speaking to oneof the homies he was telling me
.
He said yo, mont.
I turned to one of them guys.
I said what are you talkingabout?
He said yo, I just went to aparty and I don't remember
anything from that night.
He said I don't rememberanything.
He said I went out with just aamount of money in my pocket and
(42:28):
I came home with nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I remember coming home Next day, get up don't know
where the fuck I parked my car.
Don't remember the fucking ridehome, bitch.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Me too Scary.
Yo, I did that in the city andI was like yo Many times I did
that.
I was like yo.
We did like a scavenger hunt.
There was like seven of us.
We walked up to one block oneblock, I'm telling you because
none of us.
We was all drunk and wecouldn't figure out where we
parked.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And think about how dangerous that was.
Man, you don't remember anyevents.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You don't remember.
Let me tell you.
One of the worst things aboutthat happened to me when I was
drinking, you know, I got fuckedup.
I came home and whatever Idon't remember nothing really
and then, until I got up thenext day, went to the bathroom.
You know, morning piss, I'mgoing to the bathroom.
Next thing I look to my right.
I see I see shit.
(43:22):
I see shit in the tub.
Yo kid, I was the only onethere.
I came home Cause, you know,after you get fucked up, you
always eat.
I came home and I thought thatprobably was the toilet, and I
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shit and I shit it in the tub,kid yo.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I ain't never get there.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I tell you man that's some different shit that was
wine on mind.
Yeah, wine on mind.
You know what's?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
crazy.
You know it's different typesof drunks, like there's the pass
out with.
You know it's different typesof drunks, Like there's a the
pass out with everybody.
You got on drunk.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm always that, no matter how drunk I am, I get
home I could be, take my, youknow, take, get organized, then
go to bed.
I always been that drunk.
I never been the type to passout and I might do.
I might go do that, getorganized, go lie down for a
while.
Then I got up early and I getup, so-and-so, but I was always
that organized, even if I flushthe toilet.
(44:25):
I'm just that type of drunk,you understand.
I know some people that's likethat.
We know a few pass out drunks,you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yes, things like that , so nobody have to ever tap you
in the club to wake you up, Iwas always able to have control.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I think it's just something mentally.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I always had control until I get home, until I hit
the bed.
I'll tell you that's why mydrinking.
It went from overwhelming likeoh, party, party, party.
As you get older my drinkingstarted making me sleepy After I
get twisted my last years I wasI would be the one yo.
Mine's gonna go to sleep in theclub, mine's sleeping.
(45:06):
I'll sleep on the way to theclub.
You know what I'm saying.
The alcohol was hitting me.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Different man you know what it sounds like.
It sounds like you was a moreyou was.
You was a different level, youwas an alcoholic man yeah, I
mean probably.
Yeah, there's different typesof alcoholic.
I think I'm more of a weekendwarrior alcoholic.
You sound like you was aneveryday alcoholic, right or
wrong?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
No, no, I wasn't drinking every day, but when I
drank, I drank like a warrior.
You understand, I drank with amission.
You know what I mean.
I wasn't playing around Like yo, listen.
A mission, you know I mean.
I wasn't playing around like yo, listen me.
And this bottle going down.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, me and this bottle here.
We ain't, we ain't friends.
Uh, no, I'm saying no.
No, I'm a different type ofdrinker.
I drink to.
I'm trying to get to a certainplace uh-huh I'm certain, get to
a certain level of drunknessand usually when I get there I
could stop.
Sometimes you still indulge,but I I never be like yo.
I'm gonna finish this bottle no, I never.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I never get to that place and just I never, no, no,
no, I never get to that.
Okay, it's a time to stop.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Place when it's time to stop yeah, I know, I have a
homeboy like that.
He's like once he started, hecan't stop I'm cooked, yeah,
yeah I always, always had a, athreshold where I reached I'm
like nah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
You know what I'm saying and then that's when I
started getting respect forbottles and I started giving
them first name basis like Ron,ron Bacardi or Jose you know
what I'm saying.
I started respecting the bottlea little differently.
But I'm glad journey that wasoverwhelming, that was taking
too much of my life away yeah,man really really.
Yeah, man Really, really,really yeah congratulations,
three years.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Like I know I said this before.
I want to get there.
Man, I'm a little fucked upfrom last night Went to my
cousin's sick birthday party,big up sick.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm a little fucked up.
Now.
You understand what I'm sayingand you know, as you get older
the after effects is muchdifferent.
It lingers.
Yeah, it lingers more Like youknow when you was young boom,
(46:59):
you drink a lot.
Boom get up good, boom.
I'm probably going to be in asullen place for the rest of the
day.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Right, right right, right, right right, you know
with the after effects of thisalcohol.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
What about with you like, say, after getting drunk
like that, do you have liquorcraps?
What do you have?
Liquor craps, liquor craps youprobably don't.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Liquor craps is like you got the liquor shits.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, especiallywhen I used to um drink the
brown liquor or do you don't?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I mean I, you don't have like I would.
Let me tell you that.
Let me tell you that's what theproblem was.
A lot of the problem would belike okay, I'm going to get up
late and then like say I hadsome things to do, like the
family you got to stay in thehouse I gotta stay because I
guess I don't want to take acrap.
And I don't want to take a crapbecause the crap is going to
come automatically and I gottago now yeah, that that used to
happen when I was dealing withbrown liquor.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
I know everybody's different.
You know alcohol affectscertain people differently.
I'm more of a clear liquor guynow I I realized when I used to
drink the brown liquor slashhennessy.
Yeah, the next day I'll be inthe bathroom all day, my stomach
be turned upside down.
But now I'm more of a tequiladude and I don't really suffer
with that anymore since I madethe switch.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Oh, okay, you understand what I'm saying.
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,yeah man.
So yeah, man, this is.
It's been a good episode, man.
It's been a good episode, man.
I want to make a closingstatement saying that people got
to take heed to what life isman and take advantage of what's
(48:26):
going on now and just don'twait.
You can't lose if you don't try.
You can't lose if you don't try, man.
A lot of people are reluctant.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You don't take them.
You ride that bench for nottaking shots.
Now, coach, be like oh, comeout the game.
You don't want to shoot, wedon't find somebody that's going
to shoot for you, man.
So people take your shots, man,and productive shots now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow what I mean.
And shoot for the stars, man,even if you don't land where you
(49:00):
want to land.
You can't say you didn't try,man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, man, my closest statement is pleasure to be
back in this forum.
You understand it's been awhile I missed it.
Always good, like I said,always good to be in company
with a good friend.
You know what I'm saying.
We've been friends for over 20years, you know, in a good place
.
You're a good dude, you know.
(49:24):
And I see you for everything youdo, all the positivity in your
life, and I also want to give ashout out to my cousin, sherry
Berry.
She's on a little hiatus.
She'll be back soon.
You understand what I'm saying.
Big up, sherry, you understand.
And, like I said, this, this,this feels like home, this is a
form, this is our home.
There's a lot more to come andI'm just looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir, and this is the your
opinion doesn't matter podcast,and we are outie.
Yeah, peace, peace, peace.
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