September 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Who are you really — and what do you want from life? In this powerful conversation, Kellan sits down with Anja Zibert, a former corporate headhunter turned Free Spirit coach, to explore the awakening that transformed her life.
Anya shares her story of collapsing under stress, discovering her empathic gifts, and choosing a path of freedom, playfulness, and truth. Together, they discuss:
- Why self-love and forgiveness are the foundation of transformation.
- How to normalize spiritual awakenings (and not feel “crazy”).
- The power of vision + the first practical steps to create it.
- Why your past doesn’t define you — your present choices do.
- How to make your unique “imprint” in the world.
🔥 Your ultimate life begins when you stop living by old programs and choose to create your own reality.
👉 Connect with Anya: freespirithc.com or on LinkedIn: Anya Zibert, Free Spirit
👉 Join the Dream Build Write It Challenge at DreamBuildWriteIt.com - New challenge starts September 29, 2025.
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Who the hell are you and whatdo you want from me?
And when they open the door.
Welcome to the show.
Tired of the hype about livingthe dream?
It's time for truth.
This is the place for tools,power and real talk.
So you can create the life youdream and deserve.
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Your ultimate life.
Subscribe, share, create.
You have infinite power.
Hello and welcome to thisepisode of your ultimate life.
The podcast, has been goingnow for years, is dedicated to one
thing, helping you to create alife that you love every day.
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Purpose, prosperity, joy, andone that's within your control.
You can create it with yourchoices, with your gifts, with your
talents and with your skills.
I have a special guest today,Anya Ziebert.
Did I say that well, yeah,well done.
Well done, Kelly.
All right, so she's here totell us about her version of this
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ultimate life, who she is, howshe creates it and what she does.
And I don't do intros, sowe're just going to dive in and learn
about her glorious workPersona and everything as we go.
So, Anya, if someone says,living the ultimate life, what does
that mean to you?
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What does that mean to me?
Well, I have a baseline thatI'm sharing now with people around
the world.
So we are multi dimensionalbeings with limitless power to create
our own reality.
And everything starts there.
I decided that I want tocreate a reality without stress.
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I want to have a lot of fun, Iwant to feel a lot of playfulness,
I want to have a lot ofplayfulness in my, in my life.
I want to, you know,experience a lot of adventures.
I want to be surrounded withpeople I love and with, you know,
enjoy the things that I love.
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So basically, completelydifferent life that we were taught
that, you know, it's waitingfor us when we were, when we were
younger and I just decided Idon't want to live like they told
me to, so I'm creating my own.
So I love that.
One of the things that happenswhen I or you or any one of a number
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of people talk about creatinglife, we use these expansive and
energetic words and createyour own reality and all this stuff,
which sounds so good.
And we say, and we can havethat and live that way.
And I'm going to agree withyou and I'm also going to acknowledge
lots of people hear that andsay, yeah, for sure, whatever.
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Sounds too weird too.
Woo woo.
I got to pay bills, I got todo this stuff and I got to have a
life that's like anything but that.
So let's, let's do someconcrete Work for a sec, because
I'm not challenging you.
Because we do create ourreality, but let's tie it to some
on the ground stuff.
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So what do you do to go aboutcreating a life that you love?
What things do you do thatcreates this beauty that you just
described?
Yeah, I mean, it's.
It's never only, you know,light and love.
I'm not this, like, new Ageguru or whatever that is just, like,
praising, you know, like, oh,you have to live like this.
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You have to live like this.
No, I mean, we all have ourown stories.
We all have past experiencesthat, you know, that.
That formed us.
And my background inprofessional way is in recruitment.
I was a headhunter, you know,like a corporate headhunter.
And, yeah, in 2017, somethinglike my.
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I could say, like, awakeningstarted and I could absolutely.
Like, it changed everythingfor me because I started seeing energies,
I started feeling energies,and I saw that people were pushed
together just because ofmoney, and I couldn't be part of
that anymore.
So then I decided I don't wantto be a part of that anymore because
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nobody can push me.
Even though, like, if I, youknow, if I have to say no to.
To good money or whatever,because I believe that I can.
I can be prosperous, I can bewealthy, you know, in alignment with
my soul, with.
With my values.
So, yeah, I mean, it's a journey.
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It's absolutely a journey.
I left a lot of things behindthat are.
Now, new things are cominginto my life and I'm, like, rebuilding
my life.
But what I do in general,like, every day, I'm not going to
say every day, but, you know,a few times per week, I get messages.
Hey, Anya.
You know, I just startedfeeling like this.
I see things.
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I don't know, something happened.
I.
You know, people, they just.
They just come to this pointthat they think that they're crazy,
that they're going crazy.
And I normalize that becauseit's like, I know how you feel.
I've been there.
I see you.
I've been there.
Whether they are, I don'tknow, like, you know, in a job 9
to 5, whether they have theirown company or they are just like
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regular people or they are,you know, super wealthy or whatever,
but when they are startingthis awakening journey, it can get
pretty intense, prettyconfusing, pretty.
You know, I would say it canbe very difficult.
And, yeah, I'm here to supportpeople to create this open space
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for them, safe space toexpress themselves, and also to help
them upgrade their cv, youknow, with extra abilities that they
Are awakening.
No, that's fabulous.
When I go back a little bitand ask.
So you had a career.
It could have been anaccountant, engineer, lawyer, whatever.
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You were a recruiter.
And so you went and foundtalented people to fill mostly boxes
in the sort of corporate worldthat we all came, we were all socialized
in, we were all taught, do a thing.
And in that thing, yourposition was, I'm going to go find
talented people to fill these jobs.
And you said in 2017,something started to happen, and
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that's a common thing.
Sometimes people have trauma,sometimes they have some extraordinary
experience, sometimes somelife upheaval.
I don't know.
But when something like whathappened that let you or forced you
or invited you to no longerignore those things that had been
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floating around us all thetime, and they are.
We just ignore them.
So what happened to say, waita minute, I'm going to do something
different?
What happened?
Yeah, good question.
You know, this journey is not linear.
Like, it's very difficultsometimes to put all the dots together.
But.
Okay, if I go step back.
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It was in 2005 when I had thissummer job in England and I found
myself in situation, like whenI was selling books door to door.
And yeah, it was reallyintense experience because I didn't
know what to expect.
You know, like, I was prettynaive about it.
But what was reallyinteresting when there are a few.
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Few stuff, you know, like thatthat happened then.
But one of the mostinteresting stuff was when people
opened the door and I waslike, selling, you know, like this
children books and I was fromanother country and all they all.
They were looking at me like,you know, who the hell are you and
what do you want from me?
And when they opened the door,I could feel them.
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I could feel.
I could feel the emotions thatthey were generating.
So basically, if somebody wasmad or, you know, I don't know, frustrated
or whatever, I could feel that.
It was so intense today.
I know, because I'm an empath.
Yeah.
But back then I didn't know that.
So basically after.
Yeah, it was 2005.
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So after that experience, likea month later, my body collapsed.
I didn't understand it, like,you know, rationally I didn't understand
it, but my body collapsed.
And now I know because it wasjust too much of everything.
And it was probably a month later.
Yeah, I was sitting, like nextto my laptop and I was editing my
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MySpace profile.
You know MySpace, I get.
I do remember MySpace, right?
Yeah.
Tom was everyone's friend.
So I was.
I was editing MySpace profile.
And you Know, the mainquestion was, like, what should be
my username?
Like, how should I call myself?
And this very, very distinct voice.
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I heard this very distinctvoice in my head, anya, you are free
spirit.
I, again, I had no idea.
What does that mean?
No idea.
But I was like, okay, I'mgonna take it.
That sounds nice.
That sounds cool.
So from that moment on, I was,you know, I'm your free spirit.
But, yeah, little did I knowthat that was kind of very, you know,
like, pivotal point in mylife, because everything from that
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point on, yeah, started.
Started changing or, like,kind of forming the story around
it.
So in 2017, I. I went to myfirst past life regression, and I
saw some stuff, you know,connected to that free spirit.
And of course, I saw myself dying.
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I saw, you know, myself, like,in energy form and stuff like that.
And when you experience stuff,you know, when you experience this,
you cannot forget about it.
Like, it's embedded in you.
You.
You change.
Even though if you don'tunderstand what.
What is happening.
But, yeah, after thatexperience, I would say in next 14
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days, pretty, pretty weirdstuff started happening at my job
as well.
You know, people were, like,coming to interview because, you
know, I held interviews.
Of course, mostly it was C level.
So, like line managers or CEOs.
And, yeah, like, people, whenthey came for an interview, they.
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They just started saying theweirdest stuff, like, hey, you came
here to planet Earth and youbrought this energy, like, this is
your mission.
And I was like, what the hellare you saying?
Like, I had no idea, seriously.
So, I mean, I thought that I'mgoing crazy.
Like, you know, your.
Your world starts falling apart.
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I wasn't really looking forexplanation because I was too afraid
for my.
For my own survival.
And my body started reacting.
I. I had some health issues as well.
Yeah, my personal life startedfalling apart.
Then later, I got separated aswell, moved away from family.
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And yeah, a lot of very, very.
You said something way earlyin the beginning about normalizing
this.
So what I'm hearing you say iswe have to tie these two threads
together, because when aperson has a job and they're in the
sort of machine, and then youstart getting the feeling that we're
more than that.
We're these infinite beingsand we are having a physical experience.
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We're here and stuff invadesall the time.
And sometimes we're open, andmostly we're not.
And when that starts tohappen, it looks different for each
person.
And like you, I imagine nearlyeveryone has this fear.
I'm weird.
Something's Wrong.
I'm not supposed to be feelinglike this or hearing this or seeing
this.
Hello, you know, I'm acandidate for the insane asylum or
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whatever.
And so normalizing it issaying, I think this is okay.
You're not weird.
That's part one.
Part two.
Maybe you need to get curiousabout what this means, because maybe
it means you're bursting outof the little straight jacket you've
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sandwiched yourself into.
You know, and it's okay to askthose questions, what does it mean?
And then, what should I dowith it?
Does that make sense?
Is that what happens?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I. I really discovered,you know, that for me, it's really
important to have thisconnection to my heart because all
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the answers.
I know it sounds really, youknow, like, fluffy or whatever, but
it's.
It's really this connection toyour heart.
Like, all the answers aboutyour wishes, like, who are you?
Are in your heart.
And now when I'm talking topeople, when I start talking to people,
I ask them, like, if.
If you ask somebody, hey, whatdo you want?
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Your mind will give you an answer.
But if I bring them to thisspace, you know, like this expanded
space where they haveeverything, everything available,
and they have absolutely nolimitations there, and they feel
relaxed.
They feel, you know, carefree.
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And I ask them from thatspace, what do you want?
Where do you want to be?
What do you want to do?
It's magical, Kellen.
It's magical because then theygive the answers and then it's like,
oh, my God.
You know, like when they getout of meditation, say, oh, my God.
I cannot believe that I justsaw that.
I cannot believe that I justfelt that.
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I was like, yes, this is your essence.
This is your truth.
This is what your soul isshowing you.
So if you want to align withthis vision or whatever, it's possible.
And I can help you.
I can help you with contacts,I can help you with opportunities.
I'm not guarantee anythingbecause, you know, they're your choices.
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But if you saw something, thatmeans that it already exists in.
In.
On some level, in somereality, you know, in some dimension.
And it's really.
Now, for me, yeah, it's normalbecause I experienced it and I helped
so many people do it.
And it's.
It's really simple, actually.
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So let's talk about the do it part.
Let's talk about the do it.
Yeah.
So someone has theseexperiences, whether they've come
to you first or aftersomething and they're still caught
up in the Matrix, we'll usethat word.
Just because everybody kind ofknows what that is, the machinery.
And then they see thisbeautiful vision.
And if I were to describe it,it would be, this is the soul essence
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showing you another multidimensional possibility that exists
somewhere in reality already.
You have blinded it out orblocked it out up to now.
Not because you're bad, butbecause of socialization and conditions
and beliefs and all the rest.
Okay, then there's this wholequestion of, yeah, that was so beautiful.
I'm so excited.
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And we talk about yourultimate life.
And I use the words purpose,prosperity and joy, but people are
gonna use whatever words they want.
Then there's this big questionabout, okay, how do I do that?
Because here I am in the boxand I've opened the door or looked
out the window or both, and Ican see this, but I have no idea.
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I mean, you've told me thatit's okay to feel this.
Oh, yay.
But now what?
I'm gonna go back home,wherever that is, down the block
or around the world and beback in the box with this nagging
vision that I've seen that wasso powerful.
Not nagging, but inspiring.
What do you have?
How do you help people startto first own, continue to own that
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that's a real possibility, andthen figure out what's next?
What's the first step?
Because I don't, you know,most people don't just jump off the
cliff and build theirparachute on the way down.
You know, they gotta, theygotta do some concrete thing.
So where do we go from there?
Yeah, good.
Very good question.
So first start is awareness,like you said.
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Oh, they got something, youknow, like this vision or whatever.
This is awareness.
This is expanded awareness.
What is possible?
So when we expand ourawareness, when we expand our consciousness,
we expand also our, you know,field of possibilities, of opportunities
and what people need to do.
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Of course there's all,everything is followed by action
steps.
But first of all, they need toknow that this is possible.
Yeah, this is like the first step.
And then it's like, okay, whatcan I do today?
What, what can I do today thatis aligned with who I am, with what
I like to do?
And it will bring me one stepcloser to this vision is that, you
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know, like contact somebody orwrite something, express yourself.
It's, it's all about us.
So I'm trying to tell peoplethat it's not about outside yet,
especially now.
Now I came to the point whereI'm like, oh my God, I have enough
of information.
It's, you know, like, we haveenough of Information.
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Now it's about walking the talk.
Because you can go to anotherpsychedelic, you know, session, you
can go to another retreat, youthink you can go to another, to take
another course or whatever,but you don't need that.
All you have to do is rememberwho you really are, but you have
to let that happen.
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So to face your shadows, youknow, this is very, very essential.
I would start there becauseawakening, it's not fun, but I try
to keep it on playful level.
Yeah.
So whenever somebody is likegoing, you know, crazy or like really,
really scared or overwhelmedwith everything.
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Yeah.
Like, you know, I reframe fewstuff like what is happening.
Hey, let's, let's see it fromdifferent perspective.
Let's see, you know, thisperception because, you know, our
perception creates our reality.
So I, I, I help people toreframe things.
And, and yeah, it's, it can,it definitely can help.
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And it's, it's so much easierto go through this process.
All right, so you start with.
Yeah, go ahead.
When you don't hold.
Yeah, yeah.
When you don't hold this, thisperception that somebody told you,
you know, like, oh, yeah, it'slike that.
It's like that.
No, because whateverperception you have, that kind of
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reality, you will create.
And I, I don't want to tellpeople like, you know, what to see
or what to, what to feel, butI just give them space so they can,
they can do it their own way.
So when you see that beautyand a person does, immediately juxtaposed
against that are the oldstories and beliefs and barriers
and maybe naysayers around them.
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Maybe people say, who are youto think you can be creative or go
create some meaning in theworld or do whatever it is?
Right.
And so it seems like whatyou're saying is a really important
part of the process is how doI set this up?
Because you said two things.
One, it's not a linear journey.
It's not a straight line.
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It goes all over the place.
And the second thing is youhave to take the first concrete step.
Maybe it's talk to somebody.
Maybe it's dare for the firsttime to express a vision that you
have of alleviating, creating,suffering in the world or helping
build this thing or whateverit is.
And if we go with the premisethat there's no limits, there's still
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always a first step.
And there's still always thisresistance that comes from the before.
Whether it's shadow work orwhether it's lack of support or whether
it's old stories of not Goodenough fears and all the rest.
So what is the.
What is the process to help metake the first and then the second
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and the third step to sort ofstay on this circuitous, wiggly path
to get there?
Yeah, okay.
I can just share, you know, example.
So when I. Yeah, when I.
When I work with people and,you know, I have different kind of
individuals that I was working with.
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So, for example, somebodyjust, yeah.
Wanted to become a speaker or,oh, my God, I see myself.
I want to start my own, Idon't know, spiritual.
Spiritual company.
Like spiritualentrepreneurship or something like
that.
Yeah.
So basically now they are inthis 9 to 5 job.
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And first of all, they need toknow, okay, like what?
Like, can I leave this job?
Will I be safe?
You know, I never, never burndown in everything and just, yeah,
just jump off the cliffbecause you're not doing yourself
a favor.
You're not doing your nervoussystem a favor.
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There's always action step,but it's about bridging things.
So I don't call myself or people.
Sometimes people call mecoach, but I'm not a coach because
maybe, you know, maybe I'm amentor, coach, guide or something
like that.
But the thing is, I stick with them.
Like, I'm next to them whenthey're going through this process.
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I open my world to them.
I connect them with people.
Like, hey, if you want tobecome a speaker, contact this person.
Like, he or she, you know,will expand even more awareness and
give you some opportunities.
Are you ready to do that?
No.
Why not?
Well, I don't know what hewill think.
Well, okay, that's your decision.
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But now you have the option.
Yeah, you have the option.
Or, for example, I want tohave my own podcast.
Okay, so what is.
Where is your fear?
Yeah, I don't know if I'm goodon camera or whatever.
You know, it's like, okay,send me the video.
I know.
I will not comment it.
Just send me the video.
And that will be your first step.
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So you will record yourselfand send somebody the video.
You know, like, small stepslike that.
And.
And it's like, okay, now youcan download this software.
This, this, this, you know,and like, it's so amazing when people
surrender and they're notjust, like, listening to me, but
they're actually enjoying the process.
Yeah, they're enjoying theprocess because the most important
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thing is that they areenjoying if they feel pressure, if
they feel, you know, that wealways need to stretch out, out of
our comfort zones.
But I never, never.
I don't believe that People,you know, suffer when they step out
of their comfort zone.
It's not about that.
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They can stretch, they can,you know, feel a little bit uncomfortable.
But I don't want that people suffer.
And I don't believe thatbecause, you know, that's, that's,
that's not effective.
Not even short term, not evenlong term.
But yeah, I've seen so manyincredible transformation.
And people, at first, theyhave one goal, but when they start
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following thissynchronicities, and it's all about
bringing this awareness tothemselves, to start loving themselves,
to facing their shadows andjust working on themselves, not absorbing
outside information, thisresults in synchronicity, new people.
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And I'm holding space for allthat to happen.
And when they're ready, like,I see, oh, my God, you don't need
me anymore.
Now you can fly.
Yeah, now you can fly.
And I always say that youdon't need me anymore.
I'm not your, you know, I'mnot your crutch.
I was like, you are not here.
I'm not here, you know, to, tosupport you all the time.
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Because you need to, you needto fly now.
And yeah, I say that we have arocket, like a rocket ship, and when
you send the rocket out in thespace, there are parts falling off.
Yeah.
And I'm that part.
Yeah, I'm that part that comesback to the earth and they go up,
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up in the sky.
So, yeah, that's fabulous.
You said several things that Iwant to go back and think about.
One of them is learning tolove yourself.
I think a lot of the shadows, shadow.
A lot of the weight, a lot ofthe baggage, a lot of the hold back,
the anchors to the ground comefrom the stories that we have about
past failure, about pastmeaning, about difficult or traumatic
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experiences or struggles thateverybody goes through.
And we allowed them to hang onto us like so many rocks and tell
the story of unworthiness andincapability and all of the rest.
And you're describing openinga possibility.
And as you talk, I have thisseeing of light all the time.
There's light everywhere.
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So you see, there's alightness which allows a person to
fly, to float, to rise up, tolet go of this baggage, these anchors,
these rocks, and to say, youknow what?
Maybe I could.
What if I could be a speaker,be a podcaster, be an author, be
a person who loved others.
And it's so much of it startswith what you said, which is two
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things.
Loving yourself and then beingwilling to surrender to possibility.
You know, there is A possibility.
And no, it may fail.
You may get bashed, whatever.
But the.
The exhilarating joy of havingdone something new and to try it,
pulled by this sort of lightand vision, seems to me to be so
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important.
What do you do to help people?
Start with this thing of self love?
Because I notice that that maybe job one or certainly one and a
half, you know, for people toshed the idea that somehow they're
small, unworthy, not capable,stuck in the cogs, whatever it is,
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to get to this place of trulyexperiencing and believing their
own divinity, capability,possibility, that kind of stuff.
How do you help me do that?
Yeah, because I'm mostlyfocused on this.
Career empowerment.
Yeah.
When people are transitioningtheir careers, they're stepping into
their power, you know, they'restepping into their sole purpose.
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So I always say your pastexperiences do not define you.
What defines you is who youare today, now, and who you believe
you can become tomorrow.
Past.
Yeah, it forms us, of course,it has some kind of influence, but
it doesn't define us.
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And when people really getthat, it's like, oh, my God, everything
that happened in the past, Imade decisions that, you know, I
thought that they were thebest because I was on that level
of awareness.
Now I'm completely oncompletely different level of awareness.
So now I'm.
I will probably.
Or I would, you know, dodifferent, make different decisions.
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And, yeah, it's really, reallypowerful when people just shed, you
know, like, all that past.
Past beliefs.
I know it's.
It's really difficult, andthere's, like, so much talk around
it.
Oh, yeah, just let go and, youknow, subconscious beliefs and blah,
blah, blah.
But it's all.
It's.
It's stories.
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These are stories because wehave been all.
Even now, I'm still.
I know that I am programmed.
You know, I have a lot ofprograms in me and, you know, conditioning,
and we all have.
But all these programs andconditionings, they have absolutely
nothing to do with us.
So I just learned recentlywhen we put ourselves.
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When I put myself in this state.
So, you know, in.
In one second, just picturethat you just arrived to planet Earth
and there's no past andthere's no future.
It's just present moment.
It's just you.
Okay?
And from that space, from thatstate of being, you start making
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decisions or, you know,choices or whatever.
And it's really powerfulbecause they are not attached to
any past, like emotions orwhatever, because that doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
So I'm.
Yeah, this is actually rg.
Spinach.
I really like also listeningto what he's saying because it's
all about this decluttering,you know, just getting rid of everything
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that doesn't serve us and, andyeah, and just be in the moment.
And we can be in the momentlike this in one second.
And from that state of being,we can really start loving ourselves
because we see that there'snothing wrong with us.
We are perfect just the way we are.
I love that.
So let's start with thatthought because there's so much feedback
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that we get that we did thiswrong or that wrong.
And so tied really powerfullyto this notion of self love, to me
is the idea of forgiveness.
And people get mixed up in theidea that forgiveness means absolution
or that it means ignoringsomething that's wrong.
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And it doesn't mean any of that.
Forgiveness, the way I thinkabout it.
And you know, I've written abunch of books and one of them was,
guess what?
Forgiveness.
I wrote a book about that.
And all the books I've writtenhave been stuff I needed.
But I think of forgiveness isjust no longer allowing events of
the past to have power in the present.
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And that is a choice I get tomake whether I'm forgiving myself
of a mistake I made orsomething stupid or wrong with my
current understanding orwhether I'm forgiving someone else,
some terrible thing they didto me.
That doesn't make it right.
It doesn't excuse it.
It doesn't mean put yourselfin jeopardy.
Doesn't mean anything, any ofthat crap.
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It just means I won't let thatevent continue to limit me today
in that innocent state whereyou're saying, I don't know anything.
I'm just going to do whatseems like the very best thing right
now in this moment.
Do you find forgiveness to bea big part of the liberation that
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you bring to people?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, sometimes, mostof the times I really trigger people
with what I say and I justsay, hey, take bits and pieces that
you resonate with and leavethe rest.
Ignore the rest.
But what I know, not that Ibelieve, but what I know is that
our emotions, how we feel,it's our responsibility.
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Yeah.
Nobody else is responsible forhow we feel.
So if we carry, you know, thisvery heavy emotions and that resentment
and, you know, like anger orsadness or whatever, it's like, hey,
this is ours.
We.
We have to deal with this.
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And yeah, when we, when weforgive, first of all, it's like
forgive ourselves.
Oh, my God.
I was torturing Myself for so long.
For so long.
That person.
Yeah.
You know, what happened.
I'm not minimizing thetraumatic experiences.
Not even close.
But it's so liberating.
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It's so liberating when weagain, reframe the situation, reframe
how we feel like what ishappening at the moment.
And you know, on the otherside of forgiveness, on the other
side of this, heavy emotionsare usually the biggest gifts.
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And.
And I'm not just saying that,you know, just because it sounds
nice, but I can say it basedon my own personal experiences, because
I had a lot of situation that,you know, I had to forgive myself
for feeling certain way, youknow, in relationship with other
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people.
Yeah, yeah.
Forgiving ourselves.
Forgiving ourselves.
For judging ourselves.
I mean, there's so much judgment.
I was wrong.
I was stupid.
I shouldn't have done that.
There's two layers.
One is the actual thing, andtwo is all the judgment that we heap
on ourselves or others forhaving behaved in some way that we
judge to be wrong.
So here's an interesting question.
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You had a spiritual awakening.
Different paths, differentthings happened.
It brought you to a place ofrealizing the expansive possibility
of creating life like you want it.
That that's a series ofexperiments and trial and error.
And some things work and some don't.
And so you're able to bringyourself through that work and through
the help of others and thestuff you did to a place of liberation
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and creativity.
You could have stopped.
You could have said, wow, Igot this solved for me.
I'm happy.
I'm living peace and joy andprosperity and coolness and whatever.
And you didn't.
You said, yeah, I did.
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And now I'm having thisyearning, this irrepressible earn
yearning rise up in me to helpother people.
My neighbor, my friend, my coworker, somebody I hated last week
experienced the same thing.
Talk a little bit about why itis that when we go through these
transformative experiences,there seems to rise up at the same
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time this, this powerful urgeto love, to serve, and to bless others.
Why do you think that happens?
Yeah, that's in our essence.
That's a really good questionbecause, you know, I'm coming from
this recruitment backgroundand when I was talking to people,
hey, you know, what do youwant to do?
A lot of people, they justsaid to me, anya, I just want to
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help people.
I just want to support people.
Even though, like they werenine to five jobs, you know, in corporate
jobs, but they wanted to have meaning.
They wanted to feel, you know,not useful, but meaningful.
And I mean now at this pointit's, it's not like all, you know,
love and light and prosperitybecause we are all on a journey.
(35:01):
But I came to the point whereI can really support people, you
know, that I am who I am.
I don't wear masks.
Yeah, I really, I don't care.
I love people, but I don'tcare what people think.
I have my good, my intentionsare pure, My intentions are good.
But I also see a lot ofbullshit, right?
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I also, I also see a lot ofbullshit and I'm calling bullshit
out.
I'm calling it, I'm saying,because I'm not going to be quiet.
And yeah, I came to the pointthat I'm playing by my own rules.
We are still in a matrix, youknow, I still like I have a car,
I have to pay for, you know,petrol or like I'm paying bills and
(35:49):
all that kind of stuff.
And I don't have financialsecurity that I had when I had, you
know, nine to five job or likecorporate job.
But that doesn't mean that I'mnot happy because I am.
Because every day when I wakeup it's like, oh my God.
And I meeting people like youand similar people that we are on
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a similar mission, it's likeoh my God, I'm so grateful, I'm so
grateful that I'm here in thistime on planet Earth and I can support,
I can co create this amazing,amazing, you know, mission of yeah,
creating new world, new new,new reality.
(36:32):
So it's not only about me butI'm, you know, sharing this because
I see myself, I.
People know me as the energy activator.
So I really, really like toshare my energy, what I do, what
I create and what I am.
Yeah, that's fabulous.
So I'm going to just anotherlittle tangent here.
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The sharing of this energy andthe calling that you have to do that.
So I just want to be black and white.
So what you're saying is G,you, me, you all listening you, no
matter where you are rightnow, no matter what you've been through
before, you have the abilityto start today.
To make incremental gradualchanges to capture a big vision that
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is the truth of your essence.
And you can move forward atwhatever pace makes sense to create
a world that lines up withyour deepest yearning, your deepest
gifts, your deepest talents.
And that means you can haveand claim a life purpose, most of
which is, gee, I like to helppeople because that's the buzzword
(37:39):
we say.
But it means also you can Makea living.
You can make money and thepeople gladly give you because you're
providing this free, I don'tmean free cost, but this beautiful,
empowering, uplifting, joyfulenergy and real solutions, real solutions
(38:00):
about how to deal with shadowwork and old beliefs and limiting
baggage that you're carryingaround and opening the vision to
possibilities.
And I know we use all thesewoo woo words, but there's a million
ways that you or I or you guyslistening can create vision.
Value.
Money follows value.
Money's actually easier tomake now than it's ever been.
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And it's just finding the courage.
So you're telling me and ourlisteners that you can do that no
matter where you are, nomatter what's gone on before, you
can start today and move inthat direction.
Have I got that right?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But we need to know something,that we are not here to do this by
ourselves.
Yeah.
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Alone we cannot become.
I mean, we are not here tobecome victims and like slaves of
our own creations.
That's why connection to otherpeople and you know, like this gathering
and co creating is very, very,very important.
And also I would like tomention one more thing.
(39:01):
So if you know everybody, likewho's listening now, they can look,
you know, their hands, likeyou, Kellen, can also look at your
hand.
Yeah.
Like, let's look at our handand let, let's look at our finger.
Yeah.
Fin.
Fingerprint.
You have unique fingerprint.
I have unique fingerprint.
Every single person that islistening now, they have unique fingerprint.
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Why to leave a unique imprintin this world.
This is how I see it and how,and what that imprint is, they can
decide.
And I'm here to guide themthrough this because yeah, I have
certain expertise, knowledgeor wisdom or whatever.
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But most importantly is that Ialso see, I kind of see how can I
express myself.
Like potential realities.
Yeah.
Based on their gifts.
Based, based on their abilities.
And I see potential realities,what they can do and how they can
do it.
And it's like, hey, these areopportunities that I see now.
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Where do you want to go?
Yeah, but don't, don't hold,hold it.
Don't hold on to that.
But these are likeopportunities where you can start
walking this path and, andpeople love that because, you know,
usually it's very, verydifficult to, to.
Yeah, to, to start to, to makethat first step.
But when they have realizationthat they are here to do something
(40:30):
unique, and I'm not sayingthat they are very special because
of that.
They are better than anyone else.
They.
No, I'm not saying that.
It's just like unique.
With their unique personality,with their unique past experiences,
with their unique story, withtheir unique abilities, you know,
skills, they can create theirown unique story.
(40:54):
They can.
And I always say that the mostimportant gift that you, Anya or
Kellen or anybody else has themost powerful gift.
And that means to make thebiggest difference, most money and
have the most fun impactincome and most fun.
You know what it is?
It is the story of your ownbecoming exactly the story of your
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own.
Yeah, I remember remembering.
Yeah, yeah, that is whatyou've got.
And everything else you teach,everything else you share is that
thing over there that you knowabout, but it's not the essence of
the truth.
So if people want to followyou or find out more or connect with
you or talk to you, what dothey do?
Where do they go?
(41:36):
Yeah, my main platform is LinkedIn.
So they can find me on AnyaGibert, free spirit on LinkedIn or
free spirithc.com.
that's my, that's my official website.
I'm also on YouTube, onInstagram and Facebook, wherever.
(41:56):
They will find me and, youknow, they will give me a nudge or
something, I will definitely respond.
And yeah, I would just liketo, you know, tell that it's possible.
It is possible.
But we're not here to doanything by ourselves because we
are all pieces of the puzzle.
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How I see it, you know, wehave this huge table.
We are bringing our skills,our stories, our, I don't know, you
know, experiences to the table.
And then we mix together andwe create magic together.
And yeah, I can helpindividuals or even groups, you know,
(42:37):
in certain stages.
Absolutely.
But then when I was like, hey,you don't need me anymore, then,
you know, they are ready fornew, like Kellen, you know, they
can come from me, they cancome to you.
But it's all about that.
Yeah, it's all about that as a journey.
I love what you're sharing andwhat you've shared.
And I always say this orsomething like it.
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Listeners, look, you can hearthis as a bunch of airy fairy woo
woo stuff.
And I don't care if you own ahardcore nuts and bolts business.
The truth is, if you createyour business and your life from
a place of vision and freedomand taking off the limitations, seeing
past those possibilities,whatever you're doing will grow exponentially
(43:21):
and it will be more fun and itwill be more rewarding and you'll
help more people and you'llhave a heck of a good time.
I know it.
I live that every Day.
Anya demonstrates that.
Anya, I want to thank you forcoming and sharing your energy and
your love and your invitationwith us today.
Thank you.
(43:41):
Thank you for your invitation.
It was very, very cool to talkto you.
It's quite late here, but I'mlike, yeah, super, super excited
about this chat.
And, yeah, I hope that, youknow, people that they were listening
today, they got bits andpieces that will help them, you know,
(44:02):
transform them, their life inany way.
Because what we were sayingtoday is really powerful.
It just, yeah, they just haveto listen with their heart, not only
with their ears or their mind.
Thank you.
So I want to encourage all ofyou to listen again because what
she just said there inconclusion is the real deal.
Nothing's going to happenunless you do something.
Nothing's going to happenunless you open your heart and explore
(44:25):
the possibility.
And you can say, yeah, itwon't work for me.
And you're right, it won't.
But if you go in there and yousay, you know what, maybe I could
do this, I can make you a promise.
If you get a hold of her andlet her talk to you, let her listen
to your heart and let her openthat vision for you, you.
So you can see what ispossible for you, so you can move
(44:46):
forward and create yourultimate life right here, right now.
Your opportunity for massivegrowth is right in front of you.
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Hello and welcome to thisepisode of your ultimate life.
The podcast, has been goingnow for years, is dedicated to one
thing, helping you to create alife that you love every day.
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Purpose, prosperity, joy, andone that's within your control.
You can create it with yourchoices, with your gifts, with your
talents and with your skills.
I have a special guest today,Anya Ziebert.
Did I say that well, yeah,well done.
Well done, Kelly.
All right, so she's here totell us about her version of this
(01:05):
ultimate life, who she is, howshe creates it and what she does.
And I don't do intros, sowe're just going to dive in and learn
about her glorious workPersona and everything as we go.
So, Anya, if someone says,living the ultimate life, what does
that mean to you?
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What does that mean to me?
Well, I have a baseline thatI'm sharing now with people around
the world.
So we are multi dimensionalbeings with limitless power to create
our own reality.
And everything starts there.
I decided that I want tocreate a reality without stress.
(01:47):
I want to have a lot of fun, Iwant to feel a lot of playfulness,
I want to have a lot ofplayfulness in my, in my life.
I want to, you know,experience a lot of adventures.
I want to be surrounded withpeople I love and with, you know,
enjoy the things that I love.
(02:07):
So basically, completelydifferent life that we were taught
that, you know, it's waitingfor us when we were, when we were
younger and I just decided Idon't want to live like they told
me to, so I'm creating my own.
So I love that.
One of the things that happenswhen I or you or any one of a number
(02:29):
of people talk about creatinglife, we use these expansive and
energetic words and createyour own reality and all this stuff,
which sounds so good.
And we say, and we can havethat and live that way.
And I'm going to agree withyou and I'm also going to acknowledge
lots of people hear that andsay, yeah, for sure, whatever.
(02:52):
Sounds too weird too.
Woo woo.
I got to pay bills, I got todo this stuff and I got to have a
life that's like anything but that.
So let's, let's do someconcrete Work for a sec, because
I'm not challenging you.
Because we do create ourreality, but let's tie it to some
on the ground stuff.
(03:12):
So what do you do to go aboutcreating a life that you love?
What things do you do thatcreates this beauty that you just
described?
Yeah, I mean, it's.
It's never only, you know,light and love.
I'm not this, like, new Ageguru or whatever that is just, like,
praising, you know, like, oh,you have to live like this.
(03:33):
You have to live like this.
No, I mean, we all have ourown stories.
We all have past experiencesthat, you know, that.
That formed us.
And my background inprofessional way is in recruitment.
I was a headhunter, you know,like a corporate headhunter.
And, yeah, in 2017, somethinglike my.
(03:55):
I could say, like, awakeningstarted and I could absolutely.
Like, it changed everythingfor me because I started seeing energies,
I started feeling energies,and I saw that people were pushed
together just because ofmoney, and I couldn't be part of
that anymore.
So then I decided I don't wantto be a part of that anymore because
(04:18):
nobody can push me.
Even though, like, if I, youknow, if I have to say no to.
To good money or whatever,because I believe that I can.
I can be prosperous, I can bewealthy, you know, in alignment with
my soul, with.
With my values.
So, yeah, I mean, it's a journey.
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It's absolutely a journey.
I left a lot of things behindthat are.
Now, new things are cominginto my life and I'm, like, rebuilding
my life.
But what I do in general,like, every day, I'm not going to
say every day, but, you know,a few times per week, I get messages.
Hey, Anya.
You know, I just startedfeeling like this.
I see things.
(05:00):
I don't know, something happened.
I.
You know, people, they just.
They just come to this pointthat they think that they're crazy,
that they're going crazy.
And I normalize that becauseit's like, I know how you feel.
I've been there.
I see you.
I've been there.
Whether they are, I don'tknow, like, you know, in a job 9
to 5, whether they have theirown company or they are just like
(05:24):
regular people or they are,you know, super wealthy or whatever,
but when they are startingthis awakening journey, it can get
pretty intense, prettyconfusing, pretty.
You know, I would say it canbe very difficult.
And, yeah, I'm here to supportpeople to create this open space
(05:46):
for them, safe space toexpress themselves, and also to help
them upgrade their cv, youknow, with extra abilities that they
Are awakening.
No, that's fabulous.
When I go back a little bitand ask.
So you had a career.
It could have been anaccountant, engineer, lawyer, whatever.
(06:07):
You were a recruiter.
And so you went and foundtalented people to fill mostly boxes
in the sort of corporate worldthat we all came, we were all socialized
in, we were all taught, do a thing.
And in that thing, yourposition was, I'm going to go find
talented people to fill these jobs.
And you said in 2017,something started to happen, and
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that's a common thing.
Sometimes people have trauma,sometimes they have some extraordinary
experience, sometimes somelife upheaval.
I don't know.
But when something like whathappened that let you or forced you
or invited you to no longerignore those things that had been
(06:52):
floating around us all thetime, and they are.
We just ignore them.
So what happened to say, waita minute, I'm going to do something
different?
What happened?
Yeah, good question.
You know, this journey is not linear.
Like, it's very difficultsometimes to put all the dots together.
But.
Okay, if I go step back.
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It was in 2005 when I had thissummer job in England and I found
myself in situation, like whenI was selling books door to door.
And yeah, it was reallyintense experience because I didn't
know what to expect.
You know, like, I was prettynaive about it.
But what was reallyinteresting when there are a few.
(07:35):
Few stuff, you know, like thatthat happened then.
But one of the mostinteresting stuff was when people
opened the door and I waslike, selling, you know, like this
children books and I was fromanother country and all they all.
They were looking at me like,you know, who the hell are you and
what do you want from me?
And when they opened the door,I could feel them.
(07:56):
I could feel.
I could feel the emotions thatthey were generating.
So basically, if somebody wasmad or, you know, I don't know, frustrated
or whatever, I could feel that.
It was so intense today.
I know, because I'm an empath.
Yeah.
But back then I didn't know that.
So basically after.
Yeah, it was 2005.
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So after that experience, likea month later, my body collapsed.
I didn't understand it, like,you know, rationally I didn't understand
it, but my body collapsed.
And now I know because it wasjust too much of everything.
And it was probably a month later.
Yeah, I was sitting, like nextto my laptop and I was editing my
(08:39):
MySpace profile.
You know MySpace, I get.
I do remember MySpace, right?
Yeah.
Tom was everyone's friend.
So I was.
I was editing MySpace profile.
And you Know, the mainquestion was, like, what should be
my username?
Like, how should I call myself?
And this very, very distinct voice.
(09:00):
I heard this very distinctvoice in my head, anya, you are free
spirit.
I, again, I had no idea.
What does that mean?
No idea.
But I was like, okay, I'mgonna take it.
That sounds nice.
That sounds cool.
So from that moment on, I was,you know, I'm your free spirit.
But, yeah, little did I knowthat that was kind of very, you know,
like, pivotal point in mylife, because everything from that
(09:26):
point on, yeah, started.
Started changing or, like,kind of forming the story around
it.
So in 2017, I. I went to myfirst past life regression, and I
saw some stuff, you know,connected to that free spirit.
And of course, I saw myself dying.
(09:47):
I saw, you know, myself, like,in energy form and stuff like that.
And when you experience stuff,you know, when you experience this,
you cannot forget about it.
Like, it's embedded in you.
You.
You change.
Even though if you don'tunderstand what.
What is happening.
But, yeah, after thatexperience, I would say in next 14
(10:10):
days, pretty, pretty weirdstuff started happening at my job
as well.
You know, people were, like,coming to interview because, you
know, I held interviews.
Of course, mostly it was C level.
So, like line managers or CEOs.
And, yeah, like, people, whenthey came for an interview, they.
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They just started saying theweirdest stuff, like, hey, you came
here to planet Earth and youbrought this energy, like, this is
your mission.
And I was like, what the hellare you saying?
Like, I had no idea, seriously.
So, I mean, I thought that I'mgoing crazy.
Like, you know, your.
Your world starts falling apart.
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I wasn't really looking forexplanation because I was too afraid
for my.
For my own survival.
And my body started reacting.
I. I had some health issues as well.
Yeah, my personal life startedfalling apart.
Then later, I got separated aswell, moved away from family.
(11:14):
And yeah, a lot of very, very.
You said something way earlyin the beginning about normalizing
this.
So what I'm hearing you say iswe have to tie these two threads
together, because when aperson has a job and they're in the
sort of machine, and then youstart getting the feeling that we're
more than that.
We're these infinite beingsand we are having a physical experience.
(11:36):
We're here and stuff invadesall the time.
And sometimes we're open, andmostly we're not.
And when that starts tohappen, it looks different for each
person.
And like you, I imagine nearlyeveryone has this fear.
I'm weird.
Something's Wrong.
I'm not supposed to be feelinglike this or hearing this or seeing
this.
Hello, you know, I'm acandidate for the insane asylum or
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whatever.
And so normalizing it issaying, I think this is okay.
You're not weird.
That's part one.
Part two.
Maybe you need to get curiousabout what this means, because maybe
it means you're bursting outof the little straight jacket you've
(12:18):
sandwiched yourself into.
You know, and it's okay to askthose questions, what does it mean?
And then, what should I dowith it?
Does that make sense?
Is that what happens?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I. I really discovered,you know, that for me, it's really
important to have thisconnection to my heart because all
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the answers.
I know it sounds really, youknow, like, fluffy or whatever, but
it's.
It's really this connection toyour heart.
Like, all the answers aboutyour wishes, like, who are you?
Are in your heart.
And now when I'm talking topeople, when I start talking to people,
I ask them, like, if.
If you ask somebody, hey, whatdo you want?
(13:01):
Your mind will give you an answer.
But if I bring them to thisspace, you know, like this expanded
space where they haveeverything, everything available,
and they have absolutely nolimitations there, and they feel
relaxed.
They feel, you know, carefree.
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And I ask them from thatspace, what do you want?
Where do you want to be?
What do you want to do?
It's magical, Kellen.
It's magical because then theygive the answers and then it's like,
oh, my God.
You know, like when they getout of meditation, say, oh, my God.
I cannot believe that I justsaw that.
I cannot believe that I justfelt that.
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I was like, yes, this is your essence.
This is your truth.
This is what your soul isshowing you.
So if you want to align withthis vision or whatever, it's possible.
And I can help you.
I can help you with contacts,I can help you with opportunities.
I'm not guarantee anythingbecause, you know, they're your choices.
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But if you saw something, thatmeans that it already exists in.
In.
On some level, in somereality, you know, in some dimension.
And it's really.
Now, for me, yeah, it's normalbecause I experienced it and I helped
so many people do it.
And it's.
It's really simple, actually.
(14:26):
So let's talk about the do it part.
Let's talk about the do it.
Yeah.
So someone has theseexperiences, whether they've come
to you first or aftersomething and they're still caught
up in the Matrix, we'll usethat word.
Just because everybody kind ofknows what that is, the machinery.
And then they see thisbeautiful vision.
And if I were to describe it,it would be, this is the soul essence
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showing you another multidimensional possibility that exists
somewhere in reality already.
You have blinded it out orblocked it out up to now.
Not because you're bad, butbecause of socialization and conditions
and beliefs and all the rest.
Okay, then there's this wholequestion of, yeah, that was so beautiful.
I'm so excited.
(15:09):
And we talk about yourultimate life.
And I use the words purpose,prosperity and joy, but people are
gonna use whatever words they want.
Then there's this big questionabout, okay, how do I do that?
Because here I am in the boxand I've opened the door or looked
out the window or both, and Ican see this, but I have no idea.
(15:33):
I mean, you've told me thatit's okay to feel this.
Oh, yay.
But now what?
I'm gonna go back home,wherever that is, down the block
or around the world and beback in the box with this nagging
vision that I've seen that wasso powerful.
Not nagging, but inspiring.
What do you have?
How do you help people startto first own, continue to own that
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that's a real possibility, andthen figure out what's next?
What's the first step?
Because I don't, you know,most people don't just jump off the
cliff and build theirparachute on the way down.
You know, they gotta, theygotta do some concrete thing.
So where do we go from there?
Yeah, good.
Very good question.
So first start is awareness,like you said.
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Oh, they got something, youknow, like this vision or whatever.
This is awareness.
This is expanded awareness.
What is possible?
So when we expand ourawareness, when we expand our consciousness,
we expand also our, you know,field of possibilities, of opportunities
and what people need to do.
(16:40):
Of course there's all,everything is followed by action
steps.
But first of all, they need toknow that this is possible.
Yeah, this is like the first step.
And then it's like, okay, whatcan I do today?
What, what can I do today thatis aligned with who I am, with what
I like to do?
And it will bring me one stepcloser to this vision is that, you
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know, like contact somebody orwrite something, express yourself.
It's, it's all about us.
So I'm trying to tell peoplethat it's not about outside yet,
especially now.
Now I came to the point whereI'm like, oh my God, I have enough
of information.
It's, you know, like, we haveenough of Information.
(17:23):
Now it's about walking the talk.
Because you can go to anotherpsychedelic, you know, session, you
can go to another retreat, youthink you can go to another, to take
another course or whatever,but you don't need that.
All you have to do is rememberwho you really are, but you have
to let that happen.
(17:43):
So to face your shadows, youknow, this is very, very essential.
I would start there becauseawakening, it's not fun, but I try
to keep it on playful level.
Yeah.
So whenever somebody is likegoing, you know, crazy or like really,
really scared or overwhelmedwith everything.
(18:06):
Yeah.
Like, you know, I reframe fewstuff like what is happening.
Hey, let's, let's see it fromdifferent perspective.
Let's see, you know, thisperception because, you know, our
perception creates our reality.
So I, I, I help people toreframe things.
And, and yeah, it's, it can,it definitely can help.
(18:28):
And it's, it's so much easierto go through this process.
All right, so you start with.
Yeah, go ahead.
When you don't hold.
Yeah, yeah.
When you don't hold this, thisperception that somebody told you,
you know, like, oh, yeah, it'slike that.
It's like that.
No, because whateverperception you have, that kind of
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reality, you will create.
And I, I don't want to tellpeople like, you know, what to see
or what to, what to feel, butI just give them space so they can,
they can do it their own way.
So when you see that beautyand a person does, immediately juxtaposed
against that are the oldstories and beliefs and barriers
and maybe naysayers around them.
(19:10):
Maybe people say, who are youto think you can be creative or go
create some meaning in theworld or do whatever it is?
Right.
And so it seems like whatyou're saying is a really important
part of the process is how doI set this up?
Because you said two things.
One, it's not a linear journey.
It's not a straight line.
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It goes all over the place.
And the second thing is youhave to take the first concrete step.
Maybe it's talk to somebody.
Maybe it's dare for the firsttime to express a vision that you
have of alleviating, creating,suffering in the world or helping
build this thing or whateverit is.
And if we go with the premisethat there's no limits, there's still
(19:53):
always a first step.
And there's still always thisresistance that comes from the before.
Whether it's shadow work orwhether it's lack of support or whether
it's old stories of not Goodenough fears and all the rest.
So what is the.
What is the process to help metake the first and then the second
(20:16):
and the third step to sort ofstay on this circuitous, wiggly path
to get there?
Yeah, okay.
I can just share, you know, example.
So when I. Yeah, when I.
When I work with people and,you know, I have different kind of
individuals that I was working with.
(20:39):
So, for example, somebodyjust, yeah.
Wanted to become a speaker or,oh, my God, I see myself.
I want to start my own, Idon't know, spiritual.
Spiritual company.
Like spiritualentrepreneurship or something like
that.
Yeah.
So basically now they are inthis 9 to 5 job.
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And first of all, they need toknow, okay, like what?
Like, can I leave this job?
Will I be safe?
You know, I never, never burndown in everything and just, yeah,
just jump off the cliffbecause you're not doing yourself
a favor.
You're not doing your nervoussystem a favor.
(21:22):
There's always action step,but it's about bridging things.
So I don't call myself or people.
Sometimes people call mecoach, but I'm not a coach because
maybe, you know, maybe I'm amentor, coach, guide or something
like that.
But the thing is, I stick with them.
Like, I'm next to them whenthey're going through this process.
(21:43):
I open my world to them.
I connect them with people.
Like, hey, if you want tobecome a speaker, contact this person.
Like, he or she, you know,will expand even more awareness and
give you some opportunities.
Are you ready to do that?
No.
Why not?
Well, I don't know what hewill think.
Well, okay, that's your decision.
(22:04):
But now you have the option.
Yeah, you have the option.
Or, for example, I want tohave my own podcast.
Okay, so what is.
Where is your fear?
Yeah, I don't know if I'm goodon camera or whatever.
You know, it's like, okay,send me the video.
I know.
I will not comment it.
Just send me the video.
And that will be your first step.
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So you will record yourselfand send somebody the video.
You know, like, small stepslike that.
And.
And it's like, okay, now youcan download this software.
This, this, this, you know,and like, it's so amazing when people
surrender and they're notjust, like, listening to me, but
they're actually enjoying the process.
Yeah, they're enjoying theprocess because the most important
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thing is that they areenjoying if they feel pressure, if
they feel, you know, that wealways need to stretch out, out of
our comfort zones.
But I never, never.
I don't believe that People,you know, suffer when they step out
of their comfort zone.
It's not about that.
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They can stretch, they can,you know, feel a little bit uncomfortable.
But I don't want that people suffer.
And I don't believe thatbecause, you know, that's, that's,
that's not effective.
Not even short term, not evenlong term.
But yeah, I've seen so manyincredible transformation.
And people, at first, theyhave one goal, but when they start
(23:30):
following thissynchronicities, and it's all about
bringing this awareness tothemselves, to start loving themselves,
to facing their shadows andjust working on themselves, not absorbing
outside information, thisresults in synchronicity, new people.
(23:53):
And I'm holding space for allthat to happen.
And when they're ready, like,I see, oh, my God, you don't need
me anymore.
Now you can fly.
Yeah, now you can fly.
And I always say that youdon't need me anymore.
I'm not your, you know, I'mnot your crutch.
I was like, you are not here.
I'm not here, you know, to, tosupport you all the time.
(24:15):
Because you need to, you needto fly now.
And yeah, I say that we have arocket, like a rocket ship, and when
you send the rocket out in thespace, there are parts falling off.
Yeah.
And I'm that part.
Yeah, I'm that part that comesback to the earth and they go up,
(24:35):
up in the sky.
So, yeah, that's fabulous.
You said several things that Iwant to go back and think about.
One of them is learning tolove yourself.
I think a lot of the shadows, shadow.
A lot of the weight, a lot ofthe baggage, a lot of the hold back,
the anchors to the ground comefrom the stories that we have about
past failure, about pastmeaning, about difficult or traumatic
(24:58):
experiences or struggles thateverybody goes through.
And we allowed them to hang onto us like so many rocks and tell
the story of unworthiness andincapability and all of the rest.
And you're describing openinga possibility.
And as you talk, I have thisseeing of light all the time.
There's light everywhere.
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So you see, there's alightness which allows a person to
fly, to float, to rise up, tolet go of this baggage, these anchors,
these rocks, and to say, youknow what?
Maybe I could.
What if I could be a speaker,be a podcaster, be an author, be
a person who loved others.
And it's so much of it startswith what you said, which is two
(25:42):
things.
Loving yourself and then beingwilling to surrender to possibility.
You know, there is A possibility.
And no, it may fail.
You may get bashed, whatever.
But the.
The exhilarating joy of havingdone something new and to try it,
pulled by this sort of lightand vision, seems to me to be so
(26:07):
important.
What do you do to help people?
Start with this thing of self love?
Because I notice that that maybe job one or certainly one and a
half, you know, for people toshed the idea that somehow they're
small, unworthy, not capable,stuck in the cogs, whatever it is,
(26:31):
to get to this place of trulyexperiencing and believing their
own divinity, capability,possibility, that kind of stuff.
How do you help me do that?
Yeah, because I'm mostlyfocused on this.
Career empowerment.
Yeah.
When people are transitioningtheir careers, they're stepping into
their power, you know, they'restepping into their sole purpose.
(26:54):
So I always say your pastexperiences do not define you.
What defines you is who youare today, now, and who you believe
you can become tomorrow.
Past.
Yeah, it forms us, of course,it has some kind of influence, but
it doesn't define us.
(27:14):
And when people really getthat, it's like, oh, my God, everything
that happened in the past, Imade decisions that, you know, I
thought that they were thebest because I was on that level
of awareness.
Now I'm completely oncompletely different level of awareness.
So now I'm.
I will probably.
Or I would, you know, dodifferent, make different decisions.
(27:37):
And, yeah, it's really, reallypowerful when people just shed, you
know, like, all that past.
Past beliefs.
I know it's.
It's really difficult, andthere's, like, so much talk around
it.
Oh, yeah, just let go and, youknow, subconscious beliefs and blah,
blah, blah.
But it's all.
It's.
It's stories.
(27:58):
These are stories because wehave been all.
Even now, I'm still.
I know that I am programmed.
You know, I have a lot ofprograms in me and, you know, conditioning,
and we all have.
But all these programs andconditionings, they have absolutely
nothing to do with us.
So I just learned recentlywhen we put ourselves.
(28:19):
When I put myself in this state.
So, you know, in.
In one second, just picturethat you just arrived to planet Earth
and there's no past andthere's no future.
It's just present moment.
It's just you.
Okay?
And from that space, from thatstate of being, you start making
(28:43):
decisions or, you know,choices or whatever.
And it's really powerfulbecause they are not attached to
any past, like emotions orwhatever, because that doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
So I'm.
Yeah, this is actually rg.
Spinach.
I really like also listeningto what he's saying because it's
all about this decluttering,you know, just getting rid of everything
(29:06):
that doesn't serve us and, andyeah, and just be in the moment.
And we can be in the momentlike this in one second.
And from that state of being,we can really start loving ourselves
because we see that there'snothing wrong with us.
We are perfect just the way we are.
I love that.
So let's start with thatthought because there's so much feedback
(29:29):
that we get that we did thiswrong or that wrong.
And so tied really powerfullyto this notion of self love, to me
is the idea of forgiveness.
And people get mixed up in theidea that forgiveness means absolution
or that it means ignoringsomething that's wrong.
(29:51):
And it doesn't mean any of that.
Forgiveness, the way I thinkabout it.
And you know, I've written abunch of books and one of them was,
guess what?
Forgiveness.
I wrote a book about that.
And all the books I've writtenhave been stuff I needed.
But I think of forgiveness isjust no longer allowing events of
the past to have power in the present.
(30:13):
And that is a choice I get tomake whether I'm forgiving myself
of a mistake I made orsomething stupid or wrong with my
current understanding orwhether I'm forgiving someone else,
some terrible thing they didto me.
That doesn't make it right.
It doesn't excuse it.
It doesn't mean put yourselfin jeopardy.
Doesn't mean anything, any ofthat crap.
(30:34):
It just means I won't let thatevent continue to limit me today
in that innocent state whereyou're saying, I don't know anything.
I'm just going to do whatseems like the very best thing right
now in this moment.
Do you find forgiveness to bea big part of the liberation that
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you bring to people?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, sometimes, mostof the times I really trigger people
with what I say and I justsay, hey, take bits and pieces that
you resonate with and leavethe rest.
Ignore the rest.
But what I know, not that Ibelieve, but what I know is that
our emotions, how we feel,it's our responsibility.
(31:22):
Yeah.
Nobody else is responsible forhow we feel.
So if we carry, you know, thisvery heavy emotions and that resentment
and, you know, like anger orsadness or whatever, it's like, hey,
this is ours.
We.
We have to deal with this.
(31:42):
And yeah, when we, when weforgive, first of all, it's like
forgive ourselves.
Oh, my God.
I was torturing Myself for so long.
For so long.
That person.
Yeah.
You know, what happened.
I'm not minimizing thetraumatic experiences.
Not even close.
But it's so liberating.
(32:05):
It's so liberating when weagain, reframe the situation, reframe
how we feel like what ishappening at the moment.
And you know, on the otherside of forgiveness, on the other
side of this, heavy emotionsare usually the biggest gifts.
(32:25):
And.
And I'm not just saying that,you know, just because it sounds
nice, but I can say it basedon my own personal experiences, because
I had a lot of situation that,you know, I had to forgive myself
for feeling certain way, youknow, in relationship with other
(32:46):
people.
Yeah, yeah.
Forgiving ourselves.
Forgiving ourselves.
For judging ourselves.
I mean, there's so much judgment.
I was wrong.
I was stupid.
I shouldn't have done that.
There's two layers.
One is the actual thing, andtwo is all the judgment that we heap
on ourselves or others forhaving behaved in some way that we
judge to be wrong.
So here's an interesting question.
(33:08):
You had a spiritual awakening.
Different paths, differentthings happened.
It brought you to a place ofrealizing the expansive possibility
of creating life like you want it.
That that's a series ofexperiments and trial and error.
And some things work and some don't.
And so you're able to bringyourself through that work and through
the help of others and thestuff you did to a place of liberation
(33:30):
and creativity.
You could have stopped.
You could have said, wow, Igot this solved for me.
I'm happy.
I'm living peace and joy andprosperity and coolness and whatever.
And you didn't.
You said, yeah, I did.
(33:51):
And now I'm having thisyearning, this irrepressible earn
yearning rise up in me to helpother people.
My neighbor, my friend, my coworker, somebody I hated last week
experienced the same thing.
Talk a little bit about why itis that when we go through these
transformative experiences,there seems to rise up at the same
(34:14):
time this, this powerful urgeto love, to serve, and to bless others.
Why do you think that happens?
Yeah, that's in our essence.
That's a really good questionbecause, you know, I'm coming from
this recruitment backgroundand when I was talking to people,
hey, you know, what do youwant to do?
A lot of people, they justsaid to me, anya, I just want to
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help people.
I just want to support people.
Even though, like they werenine to five jobs, you know, in corporate
jobs, but they wanted to have meaning.
They wanted to feel, you know,not useful, but meaningful.
And I mean now at this pointit's, it's not like all, you know,
love and light and prosperitybecause we are all on a journey.
(35:01):
But I came to the point whereI can really support people, you
know, that I am who I am.
I don't wear masks.
Yeah, I really, I don't care.
I love people, but I don'tcare what people think.
I have my good, my intentionsare pure, My intentions are good.
But I also see a lot ofbullshit, right?
(35:26):
I also, I also see a lot ofbullshit and I'm calling bullshit
out.
I'm calling it, I'm saying,because I'm not going to be quiet.
And yeah, I came to the pointthat I'm playing by my own rules.
We are still in a matrix, youknow, I still like I have a car,
I have to pay for, you know,petrol or like I'm paying bills and
(35:49):
all that kind of stuff.
And I don't have financialsecurity that I had when I had, you
know, nine to five job or likecorporate job.
But that doesn't mean that I'mnot happy because I am.
Because every day when I wakeup it's like, oh my God.
And I meeting people like youand similar people that we are on
(36:10):
a similar mission, it's likeoh my God, I'm so grateful, I'm so
grateful that I'm here in thistime on planet Earth and I can support,
I can co create this amazing,amazing, you know, mission of yeah,
creating new world, new new,new reality.
(36:32):
So it's not only about me butI'm, you know, sharing this because
I see myself, I.
People know me as the energy activator.
So I really, really like toshare my energy, what I do, what
I create and what I am.
Yeah, that's fabulous.
So I'm going to just anotherlittle tangent here.
(36:55):
The sharing of this energy andthe calling that you have to do that.
So I just want to be black and white.
So what you're saying is G,you, me, you all listening you, no
matter where you are rightnow, no matter what you've been through
before, you have the abilityto start today.
To make incremental gradualchanges to capture a big vision that
(37:18):
is the truth of your essence.
And you can move forward atwhatever pace makes sense to create
a world that lines up withyour deepest yearning, your deepest
gifts, your deepest talents.
And that means you can haveand claim a life purpose, most of
which is, gee, I like to helppeople because that's the buzzword
(37:39):
we say.
But it means also you can Makea living.
You can make money and thepeople gladly give you because you're
providing this free, I don'tmean free cost, but this beautiful,
empowering, uplifting, joyfulenergy and real solutions, real solutions
(38:00):
about how to deal with shadowwork and old beliefs and limiting
baggage that you're carryingaround and opening the vision to
possibilities.
And I know we use all thesewoo woo words, but there's a million
ways that you or I or you guyslistening can create vision.
Value.
Money follows value.
Money's actually easier tomake now than it's ever been.
(38:20):
And it's just finding the courage.
So you're telling me and ourlisteners that you can do that no
matter where you are, nomatter what's gone on before, you
can start today and move inthat direction.
Have I got that right?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But we need to know something,that we are not here to do this by
ourselves.
Yeah.
(38:40):
Alone we cannot become.
I mean, we are not here tobecome victims and like slaves of
our own creations.
That's why connection to otherpeople and you know, like this gathering
and co creating is very, very,very important.
And also I would like tomention one more thing.
(39:01):
So if you know everybody, likewho's listening now, they can look,
you know, their hands, likeyou, Kellen, can also look at your
hand.
Yeah.
Like, let's look at our handand let, let's look at our finger.
Yeah.
Fin.
Fingerprint.
You have unique fingerprint.
I have unique fingerprint.
Every single person that islistening now, they have unique fingerprint.
(39:22):
Why to leave a unique imprintin this world.
This is how I see it and how,and what that imprint is, they can
decide.
And I'm here to guide themthrough this because yeah, I have
certain expertise, knowledgeor wisdom or whatever.
(39:45):
But most importantly is that Ialso see, I kind of see how can I
express myself.
Like potential realities.
Yeah.
Based on their gifts.
Based, based on their abilities.
And I see potential realities,what they can do and how they can
do it.
And it's like, hey, these areopportunities that I see now.
(40:07):
Where do you want to go?
Yeah, but don't, don't hold,hold it.
Don't hold on to that.
But these are likeopportunities where you can start
walking this path and, andpeople love that because, you know,
usually it's very, verydifficult to, to.
Yeah, to, to start to, to makethat first step.
But when they have realizationthat they are here to do something
(40:30):
unique, and I'm not sayingthat they are very special because
of that.
They are better than anyone else.
They.
No, I'm not saying that.
It's just like unique.
With their unique personality,with their unique past experiences,
with their unique story, withtheir unique abilities, you know,
skills, they can create theirown unique story.
(40:54):
They can.
And I always say that the mostimportant gift that you, Anya or
Kellen or anybody else has themost powerful gift.
And that means to make thebiggest difference, most money and
have the most fun impactincome and most fun.
You know what it is?
It is the story of your ownbecoming exactly the story of your
(41:14):
own.
Yeah, I remember remembering.
Yeah, yeah, that is whatyou've got.
And everything else you teach,everything else you share is that
thing over there that you knowabout, but it's not the essence of
the truth.
So if people want to followyou or find out more or connect with
you or talk to you, what dothey do?
Where do they go?
(41:36):
Yeah, my main platform is LinkedIn.
So they can find me on AnyaGibert, free spirit on LinkedIn or
free spirithc.com.
that's my, that's my official website.
I'm also on YouTube, onInstagram and Facebook, wherever.
(41:56):
They will find me and, youknow, they will give me a nudge or
something, I will definitely respond.
And yeah, I would just liketo, you know, tell that it's possible.
It is possible.
But we're not here to doanything by ourselves because we
are all pieces of the puzzle.
(42:17):
How I see it, you know, wehave this huge table.
We are bringing our skills,our stories, our, I don't know, you
know, experiences to the table.
And then we mix together andwe create magic together.
And yeah, I can helpindividuals or even groups, you know,
(42:37):
in certain stages.
Absolutely.
But then when I was like, hey,you don't need me anymore, then,
you know, they are ready fornew, like Kellen, you know, they
can come from me, they cancome to you.
But it's all about that.
Yeah, it's all about that as a journey.
I love what you're sharing andwhat you've shared.
And I always say this orsomething like it.
(42:58):
Listeners, look, you can hearthis as a bunch of airy fairy woo
woo stuff.
And I don't care if you own ahardcore nuts and bolts business.
The truth is, if you createyour business and your life from
a place of vision and freedomand taking off the limitations, seeing
past those possibilities,whatever you're doing will grow exponentially
(43:21):
and it will be more fun and itwill be more rewarding and you'll
help more people and you'llhave a heck of a good time.
I know it.
I live that every Day.
Anya demonstrates that.
Anya, I want to thank you forcoming and sharing your energy and
your love and your invitationwith us today.
Thank you.
(43:41):
Thank you for your invitation.
It was very, very cool to talkto you.
It's quite late here, but I'mlike, yeah, super, super excited
about this chat.
And, yeah, I hope that, youknow, people that they were listening
today, they got bits andpieces that will help them, you know,
(44:02):
transform them, their life inany way.
Because what we were sayingtoday is really powerful.
It just, yeah, they just haveto listen with their heart, not only
with their ears or their mind.
Thank you.
So I want to encourage all ofyou to listen again because what
she just said there inconclusion is the real deal.
Nothing's going to happenunless you do something.
Nothing's going to happenunless you open your heart and explore
(44:25):
the possibility.
And you can say, yeah, itwon't work for me.
And you're right, it won't.
But if you go in there and yousay, you know what, maybe I could
do this, I can make you a promise.
If you get a hold of her andlet her talk to you, let her listen
to your heart and let her openthat vision for you, you.
So you can see what ispossible for you, so you can move
(44:46):
forward and create yourultimate life right here, right now.
Your opportunity for massivegrowth is right in front of you.
Every episode gives youpractical tips and practices that
(45:08):
will change everything.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.