February 25, 2025 • 43 mins
🚀 Are you living consciously or just going through the motions?
In this powerful episode, Kellan sits down with Esther Jones-Alley, a spiritual architect, to discuss awakening, conscious creation, and stepping into your true power. Esther shares her transformational journey—including near-death experiences—and why NOW is the time to wake up, take responsibility, and create the life you truly desire.
Esther Jones-Alley is a Spiritual Architect & Conscious Living Coach who helps leaders and visionaries achieve true inner fulfillment. With her proprietary "Soul Evolution Matrix," she transforms lives by blending intuition, empathy, and practical strategies. An International Speaker and Best-Selling Author, Esther empowers her clients to unlock their potential and design a joy-filled, authentic future.
💡 What You’ll Learn:
✔️ How your thoughts and words shape your reality.
✔️ The difference between wants vs. true desires.
✔️ Why self-love is the foundation of conscious creation.
✔️ How to break free from limiting beliefs and societal conditioning.
"Be willing to take responsibility for everything in your life—you called it in. Wake up, be conscious, and start creating with intention!" - Esther Jones-Alley
📢 Next Steps:
✔️ Connect with Esther: Visit www.EstherJones-Alley.com for her programs, sacred journeys, and coaching.
✔️ Join the FREE Dream, Build, Write It Challenge starting Feb 24th at www.dreambuildwriteit.com – Write your book & share your message!
đź’ˇ Key Takeaways from This Episode:
✔️ Why awakening is not just about realization—it’s about action.
✔️ How your thoughts, words, and emotions shape your reality.
✔️ The difference between wants and desires—and why chasing “wants” keeps you stuck.
✔️ How to take full responsibility for your life and shift from victim to creator.
✔️ Why self-love is the foundation for everything you want to manifest.
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(00:02):
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(00:24):
You have infinite power.
Hello.
Welcome to this episode ofyour ultimate life, the podcasts
and show committed to just one thing.
Helping you create a life ofpurpose, prosperity and joy that
you can create with your owngifts, talents, and your life experience.
I'm excited today to haveEsther as my special guest.
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Esther, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here.
Well, good.
I'm stoked to have you.
And, you know, we werechatting just ahead of time a little
bit about, you know, thenumber of different ways that we
can describe this awakeningthat's happening in the world where
people more and more arehaving this feeling that there's
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something more and we betterget busy and figure it out and live
into it.
Yes, yes.
It's such an exciting time tobe alive.
And I am so grateful that I'mhere and I get to experience this
awesome movement that'shappening, this awakening, this transformation,
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this evolution of mankind.
I love it.
Call to arms, call tocoolness, call to do something right.
So I want to ask you a question.
I love starting with thisquestion because it's unexpected
and I don't want you to bemodest in any particular way.
But if I ask you this, tell mehow, and tell our guests or our listeners,
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how is Esther adding good tothe world?
First of all, how I live andhow I show up in the world, second
of all, is my main purpose,and the only reason that I believe
that I'm still here in thisphysical body is to help as many
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light beings awaken, becausethere's so many here and they're
getting the call, but they'renot sure.
And so I've had quite a fewjust show up on my zoom or show up
in my life.
And I think that that's my purpose.
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That's why I'm here.
That's how I'm adding good.
Like I said, it's such anamazing time to be here.
And there is a call for thoseof us that are beginning to evolve
to commit to bringing as manyalong with us.
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So.
So let's.
I'm going to dive into thatjust a little bit more.
I love it.
Two parts to the answer.
One was, and I use the phraseadding good because, you know, we
breathe, so we add carbon dioxide.
Right?
Or.
And if we walk around angry,then we add anger if we walk around
staring at the ground, and weadd isolation.
And, you know, we actually addsomething to the world with every
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breath.
And so the first thing yousaid is how I'm being, how I show
up in the world.
Tell me more about that.
Because I want people tounderstand the impact that they have,
period.
Yes, yes.
And that's.
I'm glad you went back to that.
Because so many of us live unconsciously.
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We speak unconsciously, wethink unconsciously.
And so creating things, andwe're not conscious that we're creating.
Our words are our creative faculty.
The thoughts we have.
We've lost so much.
So many of us have lost theability to imagine.
And that's the greatest creative.
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It's like the ignition tocreating things.
So to me, I am conscious.
I listen, I think before I speak.
I pay attention to what'shappening around me, how I react
to it, because it's not what'shappening to you, it's how you're
reacting to it.
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And so when I say how I showup, how I'm being, it's not about
doing.
And we've coming from that eraof doing, doing, we got to make this
happen.
We got to make that allowingshowing up and allowing the universe
to show you the path.
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And you might say, how whenyou become conscious and you act,
the universe will show you.
It's like you've got to putyour order in.
And that's the axing.
You know, if you go to arestaurant and sit down, that food
is not going to magically showup on your table.
You got to put your order in, right?
And then you ain't gonna getup and go tell the chef how to fix
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it.
You're gonna allow the chef todo what it does.
It's the same thing with the universe.
It's waiting for you to putthe order in and then allow it to
bring to you what it is you desire.
Something that's.
Go ahead, I'm sorry, finish up.
So words are words.
What we say, how we say it,what is the intent behind what we
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say.
All those things come intoplay when we show up.
So I'm thinking, yeah, in therestaurant example, so if that waiter
comes to take my order, andthe way I show up is, I'm angry,
and I tell them, don't you dare.
You know, And I say, don't.
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Don't burn my stuff.
Do this, do that.
And I show up in therestaurant giving my order that way,
and the waiter goes back tothe chef and says, burn this One,
you know, because I showed upthat way or I insulted them either
in my manner or my language orsomething, it impacts the food that
I get, right?
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Oh, without a doubt.
That goes back to what you putout in the world, comes back to you.
So how you show up and whatyou're putting out there, that is
a universal law.
It's going to come back to youthat way.
So again, being conscious,when you show up, how are you showing
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up?
I love that.
So tell me how you got there.
Because being conscious, likeas we're raised, we're given feedback
practically from the cradlethat we're not enough.
You did this wrong, you didthat wrong.
Grades and friends andbetrayals and jobs and failures and
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all those things sort of beatinto us.
The idea that we're not enoughand we have to scramble and live
in this sort of fearful wayand you don't fall up the mountain
of consciousness.
Like you don't get there accidentally.
So tell me a little bit about.
It's all a deliberate process.
Yeah, talk a bit, a little bitabout that.
How did you get to get up, geta ways up that hill?
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I'm seven of 10.
I came from a family of 10with a single parent.
My mom and dad weren'ttogether, so she was doing the best
she could, but I always feltthat I didn't belong there.
And it was a very strictreligious upbringing, Pentecostal
holiness.
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I mean, they had so many rulesand regulations.
I didn't understand what theywere doing.
They, you know, believed verystrictly in the Bible and, you know,
I had questions from a little child.
I was always in troublebecause I didn't understand what
they were talking about.
But I had a near deathexperience, my first near death experience
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at 23.
And I was told that, well,basically the doctors told my family,
if you know how to pray, youbetter pray because there's nothing
we can do for her.
I had contracted serumhepatitis through some dental work
and didn't know.
Took him six months to figurethat out.
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By the time figured it out, Iwas in the third stages of the disease
where you just sleep away.
And I remember the minister ofthe church, the bishop of that church,
he looked at me, he said, youknow, we've been praying, we've sent
to all these differentorganizations he belonged to.
And the red flag, you're outof here, basically, right?
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But then he looked at me andsaid, but if you want to live, you
have to choose.
And I thought to myself, I'mout of here because I don't know
the God y'all will be talkingto, right?
So I'm like, I'm out of here.
But that.
You know, they got me to the hospital.
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And I think when you thinkabout a mother's love, it's one of
the most powerful things inthe universe.
My mother was there every dayfrom the time visiting hours started
till they were closed.
And she would come and shewould wake me up.
She'd keep me.
She was holding me to this side.
And every night, I would dream.
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And the dreams were so vividbecause they were like my life was
playing out, you know, all thethings that had happened to me while
I had it so far.
And then one night, I didn't dream.
And when I woke up the nextmorning, the strangest thing had
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happened.
I wasn't who I was when I wentto sleep, and I knew I wasn't.
The sun was coming through thewindow, and I'm looking at this sun.
I was so excited to see itbecause I'd never seen it before.
I knew intellectually, but I'dnever seen it before.
I looked down.
I saw trees.
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I knew, that's a tree.
Oh, that's what it looks like.
This is what was happening inmy mind.
And I knew that I was healed.
There was no illness in me.
But the other strange thingwas I had the memories, but it was
like I'm looking in someoneelse's mind because I had no recollection
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of experiencing that stuff.
So I'm looking in someoneelse's memories.
It took me 10 years to findout what that was, what had happened
that night.
But it set me on a path.
You said, how did I get here?
So that's what set me on thispath of awakening.
And it didn't happencompletely because I had to.
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I went there two more times,but I never stopped growing.
Took me 10 years to figure outthat that was an exchange, which
I don't know if you've ever heard.
Tell me what you mean.
An exchange what?
A walk in.
An exchange of souls.
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The soul that was there, here,when I was born chose to leave and
agree to allow a walk in.
And that's why everything wasso new, why I didn't understand.
Although I quickly adapted, Istill had this.
What.
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What am I doing here?
Do you feel like I've heardthe term walk in before?
Do you feel.
And you use the word, the pronoun.
I just now.
So.
But if you were a differentsoul from 0 to 23, and that happened
at 23, where a second soulcame in and walked in to that life
and then saw the old memories,but didn't have the experience of
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having experienced them.
You use the pronoun I.
Did it?
Did it feel like I or they?
I mean, like, how did youexperience that ownership?
No, I.
I didn't know what had happened.
So I could only use the I.
Okay.
Because I didn't understandthe process.
And like I said, it took me 23.
I mean, 10 years.
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This book I found had no cluewhy I'm reading this woman.
Her name was Ruth Montgomeryand she had a series of books.
One was called the StrangersAmong Us.
And when I picked up the bookand started to read it, I recognized
the process.
To me, now I understand.
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And what I've been able toreally understand about that process.
In the exchange, the agreementwas that I would finish out whatever
the previous soul hadcommitted to before I could begin
my process.
Okay.
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It took me a while and then Ithink after the last.
I was 46 when I had the lastnear death experience.
I'd had a gallbladder surgerythrough a clot and went bad.
It sit in my body for 30 days.
My lung began to atrophy.
Of course they're thinking,this woman's out of here because
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all it takes is a piece off ofthat blood clot that's setting in
her lung and she's gone.
And there were some amazingthings that happened about that.
But the message from that was,you don't need to come here again
to get what you have.
And that sent me on a wholedifferent direction than I had been
on.
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So that told me I was completewith that.
And now the downloads becamequicker, clearer.
I began to understand.
People showed up in my life tosupport what was happening to me,
to help me understand what wasgoing on and who I was.
And I'm still in question ofthat, trust me.
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But my.
My whole life changed.
So let me ask you questionabout that.
I believe you and I, we'vetalked before, and, you know, I had
an experience where I died also.
But anyway, tell me one of thethings we use, the language we use
is.
And then I understand what mylife's about.
Just like what you just said,we say that.
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And so this might get to thesecond part of what you said about
adding good to the world.
You had these remarkableexperiences that helped you see who
you really were and that youwere what you were about, which is
living consciously and makingintentional conscious decisions about
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what you add to the world withyour thinking and language.
And part two was to help wakeup or awaken as many other people
as you can so that they willdo that.
Tell me for the listeners,help me them understand what you
mean by what I'm about, whatI, who I am and helping others wake
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up.
Like what does that all meanin plain language?
So someone listening to thiscan say, wow, I either have or I
want to have a more fulsomeunderstanding or experience about
that.
When I say what I'm all about,I begin to understand my purpose,
why that exchange happened.
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Does that make sense?
It doesn't tell us what truly I.
In fact, I'm not going to sayI believe I know every soul that
enters this realm has a purpose.
But like you were sayingearlier, we are, we come in through
the birth canal, which I callthe river of forgetfulness, and we
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forget why we came and so thatwe can experience this world in a
way that we have chosen toexperience it.
So what happens though is thatyou said earlier we're influenced
by this person, that person,our environment.
If you watch a little child,they're learning at lightning speed.
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They're picking up not justwhat you're saying because they don't
really listen to that.
They're watching what you'redoing, they're watching what's happening
around them.
And so the way our, oursociety is set up, it does not support
us being the powerful beingsthat we truly are.
So in the process, there arethings that will happen along our
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lifeline that are meant tohelp wake us up.
But because of the way thatour society is built, rather than
taking the pearls from whathappened and allowing what we call
mistakes to becomeexperiences, we either latch onto
that and become victims.
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You know, oh, this happened tome, blah blah, blah, blah.
So now you're off your path again.
Something that happened tosomeone to come in.
Maybe you'll have some healingwith your trauma or whatever, but
you get back on that path.
The point is to recognize Icame here to experience these emotions
or those emotions, what,however you want to say it.
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And my purpose here is to helpothers that have experienced this
wake up and realize who theyare as powerful beings.
Because I believe that we'reall much more powerful than we recognize.
But we've given that poweraway based on how our society is
set up.
Everything in our society tellus that we're victims or that we're
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weak or we can't do this or wecan't do that.
You know, you look, you look,look at tv, listen to radio.
It's always somethingnegative, something bad.
You better be afraid of this.
You better Be afraid of that.
So when I say who I am, I'veseen through the bs, I've seen through
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the Matrix, I've seen throughthe illusion.
And we all have that ability.
And that's what this greatawakening is about.
Seeing through the illusionsthat we have created.
No one else came and created this.
I agree.
So I want to go there.
You said a couple of timesabout society teaches us this by
the way it's structured.
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Why do you think, and I knowyou're making this up here, because
we all are, but why is itstructured that way?
Why is it that frompractically the moment we're born,
for nearly everyone, I won'tsay everybody, but nearly everyone,
it is structured or seems tobe structured so that it beats the
crap out of our self confidence.
Let me just cut through it,let me cut through it.
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Because we decided we're goingto create this game that we want
to come here and play in, right?
And so because we set therules, because we've forgotten, right?
So that we could experienceall of this stuff that we've created.
Well, what's happening iswe're at the end of the game.
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In fact, 2024 was the end of a25,000 year cycle.
We're coming into a new cycle.
That game is over.
It's time to wake up.
So we're starting to wake up.
It's like the Earth began tomove into a higher dimension.
A faster vibrational frequency.
So the energy's changed aroundthis planet.
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We are being affected by that energy.
More and more people arewaking up.
Oh, this doesn't feel right.
And you, I'm sure people talkto you all the time, say I don't
know, you know what I used tobelieve, it just doesn't make sense
anymore.
This, this is kind of this,this ain't right.
No, no, I don't want to do that.
Because the energy of thisplanet has changed and people are
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beginning to wake up.
We're moving into a new cycle.
We can create somethingdifferent now.
But there's nothing out therethat's created this.
We are the creators and we setit up that way.
So yeah, when I say thissociety, I'm talking about what we
did, not what somethingoutside, something, you know, out
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there.
Nothing is orchestrating us.
We are orchestrating ourselves.
And that's what we have towake up to and realize.
We created this illusion of,you know, this God sitting out there.
This energy out there.
No, it's within us.
What do you think in thischange that's happening now in the
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new energy.
And I agree it just in termsof language that I hear people using,
this yearning to do more, bemore, create, take control.
You know, everybody languagesit differently, but people are feeling
that.
What is the new creation?
Can you describe at least tostart with what you think this new
creation is that we're beingasked, invited, driven to create.
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Okay, so the new creation,first of all starts with recognizing
that we're all one, that we'reall connected.
What I do to you, I do to myself.
That illusion is gone.
I recognize we're all from theone source.
There's one source.
And we're all.
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We've.
We.
We have created these littlepieces of ourselves so that we could
experience what we create,which then helps us to expand.
But we're all the same thing.
Does that make sense?
I understand.
Absolutely.
Non duality is the interestingway to say that.
Yeah.
And maybe some people willunderstand it and maybe they won't,
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but I think everybody willunderstand what you do to someone
else, you do to yourself,because there is essentially unity.
So keep going.
So when we.
When we begin to understandthat we are one, we are all connected,
it changes the whole dynamicof how we treat one another, right?
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Yes.
I'm not going to hurt myself.
So if I'm not going to hurtmyself, I'm not going to hurt you.
It raises the bar of what we create.
And so sharp, quick version.
Heaven on Earth, period.
You ask me what it looks like,what we track.
Heaven on Earth, okay?
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Where.
These bodies, our avatars, wedon't mistreat them because they
will regenerate themselves,but it's because of the environment
and how we eat and, you know,what we do to ourselves that these,
these avatars break down so quickly.
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Okay.
And science is beginning tounderstand that these bodies can
do a lot more than what they thought.
You don't put those chemicalsthat, you know, anything from the
pharmaceutical started outnatural, but they added chemicals
to it.
And that's why you see therise of plant medicine, because people
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are going back to what thisEarth was meant to support us completely.
I saw it.
I do.
I saw a YouTube video.
I didn't look at the video,but the title said, in the2030s,
it's going to be such that wehuman beings can live forever.
And I don't know if that'strue or not, but it's an interesting
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thought.
About what you're talkingabout when you say forever.
When you say forever, as youmove into the higher consciousness,
you move out of time and space anyway.
There Is no time and space.
This is something we createdfor this game.
You see what I'm saying?
I do.
So when you say livingforever, what's forever?
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You see, well, forever is aconstruct that we have when we measure
time in a linear fashion.
And you're saying, thank you,that goes away because we stopped
being linear about it all.
And we recognize that.
Thank you.
Sort of spherical or circularnature of all of it.
Yes.
So tell me about the work thatyou do now.
I.
We started with, you know,what happened and your purpose and
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how you're adding good to theworld and your journey.
And you've described notanywhere near all of it, but a number
of events that have broughtyou to this place.
So tell me about the work, orI don't even want to call it work.
Because that's called play to me.
Yeah.
All right.
So I love that.
And thank you.
What I play when I'm playingwith people, I come.
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I am a spiritual architect.
And what does an architect do?
They lay out the plans tobuild a new container.
So I help the people that Iwork with build a container so that
they can be all that they can be.
Because when I say we'repowerful, we're so much bigger than
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these physical bodies.
We're so much more.
When you realize that you arepart of everything, that you are
one with everything, there'snothing that you cannot do.
The only thing that's stoppingyou is you and your belief.
You're limited by your vision.
We're limited by our vision,by our imagination.
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So if I'm coming to you with alimited or shriveled up vision of
my own possibility, but I havethis yearning and underlying sense
that there could be, shouldbe, is something more, but I don't
know how to access it.
You're telling me that whatyou do, you work with me, to architect,
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to eliminate the falseboundaries, to eliminate the barriers
that I put up and create alarger space and a larger vision
so I can begin to not only seeand pretend, but to experience the
possibility of this larger vision.
Is that what you're saying?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
And what I do is when I'mworking with someone, I'm listening
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not to what you're saying, butwhat you're not saying.
Because that's where the key is.
We're good at telling our stories.
But what is it that you're notsaying to me that I need to know
that I need to hear?
That is so.
I love that.
Because you're right.
What we Say is just aregurgitation of what we've always
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said and what we believed andthis gobbledygook that we've accepted
for however long.
And so help me and thelisteners understand, what is the
not saying.
Yeah, I had a client that hiswife sent him to me because they
were having some maritalissues, right?
And the first session that wehad, he looked at me and he said,
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so how long is this going to take?
And I looked at him, said, how.
How long do you want it to take?
It's going to take as long asyou want it to take.
But I began to see in himbecause he's telling me he's confessing
all the wrong that he's done, right?
But what he's not telling meis the underlining, driving energy
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that's caused that helped himto make those decisions.
And what he really desired, right?
And what he really desired wasto be the head of his household.
And he didn't feel that way.
So he would go out and haveaffairs with him because they made
him feel like king, right?
But he couldn't say that.
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And I never had to say it tohim, but I led him to the place where
he could say it.
What is going on?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I was able to lead him to thatspace where he could say to himself,
and he could hear himself sayit, that that's what he wanted to
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be, is the tree in which allof his family was covered.
But it was only because I'mlooking beyond what he's telling
me to see what his desire is.
Does that make sense to you?
It does.
He had a desire that wasn'tfulfilled, and he was chasing other
ways to fulfill it that werecausing all these problems, obviously,
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solution.
But he had never said it to himself.
He had never acknowledged whatthe yearning was.
And that's how people oftenget into these situations that they
don't want to be in becausethey're not willing to be honest
with themselves.
They're not willing to lookwithin themselves and truly understand,
what is it that I desire.
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They're chasing their wantsrather than their desires.
See, and the desire issomething you already have.
A want is something that youdon't have.
And you think, if I keep doingthis, I'll get it.
No.
But when you say, I want this,I want that, I want this, the universe
says, okay, Kellen, want it.
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We'll make sure he wants it.
But when you say, I desirethis, because you know, this is what
you're made of.
This is part of you.
The universe goes on, says,okay, let me create more of what
he is.
Let me create more of what hehas already.
So the foundation there is abig distinction between a desire,
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which is consistent with thetruth of my eternal nature, and want,
which is an artificialconstruct maybe created by these,
this game that we're playingor all this sort of thing.
And so these artificial wantscome on there and we confuse wants
and desires and think, if Iget enough wants, I'll get the desire.
And that's not true, becausethe desire is consistent with the
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truth of who we really are.
Yeah.
And you only get more of itwhen you recognize this is my true
desire.
Those wants will have you outthere chasing all kind of things,
doing all kind of things,because you're wanting something
that's not what you are.
And see, what you are isalready everything.
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You don't have to want it.
Acknowledge what you are, andall things are possible.
We live in an unlimited universe.
It's like people say, and Ithink I want.
Well, that's not how you create.
You create by I imagine.
When you say I imagine thisfor myself, that's like the ignition
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turns on.
The universe is now gone to work.
It's bringing that imaginationbecause you see it when you imagine
something.
Think about it.
Kids playing, they'reimagining their friend, they're imagining
this, and it's real.
That's how we create.
It's like we have to becomelittle children again and use that
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powerful part of ourselves toimagine our world to be what we desire
to be.
It's fascinating.
Often people go talk about howlittle kids they want without limits.
In other words, they can beboth the president and a fireman
and an astronaut and be in allthese places at the same time.
And the idea of lack andlimitation doesn't occur to them.
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And we learn that limitationas we have these experiences playing
this game.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's why you have to, Imean, and even think about it.
Even the, the master Yeshuasays, unless you become as a little
child, you cannot enter the kingdom.
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Right.
And the kingdom is heaven on earth.
It's a, it's a state of consciousness.
So when you work with people,is it like a set of.
Do you meet with them?
Do you meet with them weekly, monthly?
Do you.
I, I week.
I meet with.
Normally when I do one onones, it's usually a minimum of a
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year because we got a lot ofstuff to clean up.
Right.
Okay.
And I meet with them once aweek and we do it on Zoom.
And they have Assignmentsthat, you know, I'll give them.
Do this, work on this, work on it.
Because one of the biggest.
One of the biggest holes thatpeople have fallen into is not loving
themselves.
And they talk about, oh, yeah,you got to love yourself, but it's
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not as simple as that.
You got to go in there andundo some stuff that's.
Understand.
Understand who and what youare, because you come as pure love.
And like you said, all thesethings that happen in this game pushes
you away.
You're not good enough.
You're not this, you're not that.
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You got to learn to loveyourself unapologetically.
It's like, you know, peoplesay, if you're selfish, how can you
be?
Well, there's a selfishnessthat you have to be in order to love
yourself unapologetically.
Because if you're not okay,how are you going to help someone
else?
Well, there's a difference between.
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Yeah, there's a differencebetween selfish indulgence and truly
honoring the infinite beingthat you are.
You know, honoring theinfinite being you are is taking
good care of the skin bag, thespirit that's inside, and all of
the rest.
Yes.
And exuding and sharing thelove and truth that is also them,
because they are me.
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So thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
Because people are saying, oh,I love you enough.
How can you give something youdon't have?
If you don't love yourself,you cannot love someone else.
I call that situational orconditional love.
As long as you're doing what Isay, I love you.
When you don't, do we got a problem.
You go into the lack category.
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Okay, And.
And you'll find it withparents and children and husband
and wives, and you'll findthat going on everywhere.
And people are dying from thelack of love, loving themselves first.
Because when you loveyourself, no, you're not going to
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allow certain things in yourlife, and you can do it without any
anger or frustration or bitterness.
You can do it from a place of love.
You know, I set boundary froma place of love.
I was in.
Where was I at?
I think I was in India.
And we were on the bus, andthis man comes in and he, you know,
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his wife wanted to sit in aseat where I was, but I had my suitcase
there, and I was sitting bythe window.
So I was trying to tell herto, wait, let me get out and let
her in.
And he starts talking crazy to me.
Who.
Why you talk to her?
Why did.
And I just looked at him andsaid, did I give you permission to
speak to Me.
And I know I did not give youpermission to speak to me in this
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way.
And he was like, but see, thatwas a boundary.
You don't get to just speak tome anyway just because you have a
mouth.
You don't get to use yourmouth as a weapon against me.
That's not okay.
And I have a right to say toyou, hope you're crossing the boundary
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here.
And I don't have to be angry.
It just is.
People can't do that.
A lot of people want.
They have to be angry or theyhave to be frustrated or they shrink
into victim.
Right.
Subservience.
You love yourself.
You set boundaries.
You do.
And you're doing it becauseyou're honoring the truth of your
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divinity.
It's not about pushing youaway because I'm better than.
Or you can't this, that, andthe other.
And it's also a truth thatthey could learn.
Look at this person honoringtheir divinity, their divine nature
and being.
Setting a boundary for me.
Wow.
What is that saying about methat I was even violating?
I mean, most people aren'tgoing to go that introspective.
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Tell me.
Not, not, not.
Not at first.
But if they keep talking tome, they'll get there.
Yeah, I believe you.
I believe you.
I, I'm.
And you know, we had a.
We had a brief chance to talkanother day and I really enjoyed
that as well as we got to knoweach other.
So I want people to know howto find you, how to find your programs
and find out more about, like,I don't know if you've got programs
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and I know you said you meetwith people a certain way, but how
do we, how do we do that?
I actually do.
My website is www EstherJones1Word-Alley.com and it has all
of my programs on it.
It has my sacred journeysbecause I do also do sacred journeys
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to India, Egypt.
Planning to do one this yearto Bali.
I went last year to kind ofscope it out.
And I, I take people on thesejourneys so they can feel the energy
of these sacred places that isstill there.
And all of that's on that website.
I also am on Facebook underEsther Ali and I'm on.
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On Instagram, Esther Jones alley.
I'm on LinkedIn.
Esther Alley.
Esther Jones Alley.
So all these places, I amthere and.
Welcome to Reach Out.
Welcome to Reach Out.
What?
Did I not ask you that you'redying for me or others that are watching
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to know.
I'm not dying for anything,first of all.
Okay.
That you would enjoy or Loveto have people know or hear.
Well, again, like I said, I goon these sacred journeys.
I still have some spots for India.
I'm doing India.
And February 24 through March8, we're doing all of South India.
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We'll be going to several cities.
We'll be, you know, have achance to bathe an elephant, spend
the night on a riverboat, thewhole bit.
I'm really excited about it.
In 2024, I went to NorthIndia, so I want to finish out the
continent.
There's so much energy there,but a lot of people don't get a chance
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to experience it.
I call India the land ofunconditional love.
But because they.
People go there with judgment, with.
With preconceived notions.
You know, you see all the.
The propaganda about this.
This country.
And so they never get pastthat to really feel the unconditional
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love.
That's the secret of India, isunconditional love.
And if you can get past all ofyour judgment and expectation, you
will get to experience that power.
Egypt is the land of the gods.
And when I go there, I get towalk with them, I get to commune
with them.
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They're there, but theyvibrate on a different frequency,
which is much higher than whatwe are on.
But if you raise yourfrequency high enough, they'll meet
you and speak with you.
These are entities that havebeen there for eons because remember,
they don't die.
Okay, so I love this.
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And I want to repeat.
Estherjones ali a l l e y.comso take a look and see.
I encourage you to do that, Esther.
Thank you for your presenceand thank you for your laughter,
for your heart, and for your.
Your true and unvarnishedyearning for people to love themselves
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and therefore create their possibilities.
Yes.
And just be open and willingand more conscious.
Start to think before youspeak because we're always creating.
And what are you creating?
What is it that you desire tosee in your life?
Be conscious.
Wake up.
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So, yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
So I want to.
You betcha.
I want to encourage all of you listeners.
Go back and listen.
There were lots of pieces here.
The focus is just being aware.
Start with being aware of whatyou're creating, because it's not
just what you're doing, it'slike you're creating.
The energy you send out withyour language, internally and externally
is creating, is what welearned today.
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So be aware of that.
And there's one more piecethat is really important.
Be willing to takeresponsibility for what you're creating.
Nothing comes into our world unbidden.
Nothing shows up that we donot call in on some level.
And as you become conscious,you begin to recognize what it is
you're calling into your world.
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So be willing to take theresponsibility as well.
It's not just being consciousof what you're creating.
Be willing to take theresponsibility and ask questions.
What is this here in my lifeto serve me?
How is this going to serve me?
What am I supposed to learnwhen something that we call bad happened?
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Go in and pull the pearls from it.
Because there's some pearls inthere that's meant for you to grow
from.
Not to sit down as a victim,but to open up your heart and let
it teach you what it's come toteach you.
So I wanted to throw that inbecause it's not enough just to be
conscious, but you've got tobe willing to take responsibility
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for everything.
Not some everything that showsup in your life because you've called
it in.
So I love that and I actuallycompletely agree.
So please do that listeners,and then think about this.
You know, your ultimate lifeis a life you create.
And if you do this, if youtake responsibility and become aware
of and create consciously,then you will be able to create your
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Welcome to this episode ofyour ultimate life, the podcasts
and show committed to just one thing.
Helping you create a life ofpurpose, prosperity and joy that
you can create with your owngifts, talents, and your life experience.
I'm excited today to haveEsther as my special guest.
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Esther, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here.
Well, good.
I'm stoked to have you.
And, you know, we werechatting just ahead of time a little
bit about, you know, thenumber of different ways that we
can describe this awakeningthat's happening in the world where
people more and more arehaving this feeling that there's
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something more and we betterget busy and figure it out and live
into it.
Yes, yes.
It's such an exciting time tobe alive.
And I am so grateful that I'mhere and I get to experience this
awesome movement that'shappening, this awakening, this transformation,
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this evolution of mankind.
I love it.
Call to arms, call tocoolness, call to do something right.
So I want to ask you a question.
I love starting with thisquestion because it's unexpected
and I don't want you to bemodest in any particular way.
But if I ask you this, tell mehow, and tell our guests or our listeners,
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how is Esther adding good tothe world?
First of all, how I live andhow I show up in the world, second
of all, is my main purpose,and the only reason that I believe
that I'm still here in thisphysical body is to help as many
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light beings awaken, becausethere's so many here and they're
getting the call, but they'renot sure.
And so I've had quite a fewjust show up on my zoom or show up
in my life.
And I think that that's my purpose.
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That's why I'm here.
That's how I'm adding good.
Like I said, it's such anamazing time to be here.
And there is a call for thoseof us that are beginning to evolve
to commit to bringing as manyalong with us.
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So.
So let's.
I'm going to dive into thatjust a little bit more.
I love it.
Two parts to the answer.
One was, and I use the phraseadding good because, you know, we
breathe, so we add carbon dioxide.
Right?
Or.
And if we walk around angry,then we add anger if we walk around
staring at the ground, and weadd isolation.
And, you know, we actually addsomething to the world with every
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breath.
And so the first thing yousaid is how I'm being, how I show
up in the world.
Tell me more about that.
Because I want people tounderstand the impact that they have,
period.
Yes, yes.
And that's.
I'm glad you went back to that.
Because so many of us live unconsciously.
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We speak unconsciously, wethink unconsciously.
And so creating things, andwe're not conscious that we're creating.
Our words are our creative faculty.
The thoughts we have.
We've lost so much.
So many of us have lost theability to imagine.
And that's the greatest creative.
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It's like the ignition tocreating things.
So to me, I am conscious.
I listen, I think before I speak.
I pay attention to what'shappening around me, how I react
to it, because it's not what'shappening to you, it's how you're
reacting to it.
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And so when I say how I showup, how I'm being, it's not about
doing.
And we've coming from that eraof doing, doing, we got to make this
happen.
We got to make that allowingshowing up and allowing the universe
to show you the path.
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And you might say, how whenyou become conscious and you act,
the universe will show you.
It's like you've got to putyour order in.
And that's the axing.
You know, if you go to arestaurant and sit down, that food
is not going to magically showup on your table.
You got to put your order in, right?
And then you ain't gonna getup and go tell the chef how to fix
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it.
You're gonna allow the chef todo what it does.
It's the same thing with the universe.
It's waiting for you to putthe order in and then allow it to
bring to you what it is you desire.
Something that's.
Go ahead, I'm sorry, finish up.
So words are words.
What we say, how we say it,what is the intent behind what we
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say.
All those things come intoplay when we show up.
So I'm thinking, yeah, in therestaurant example, so if that waiter
comes to take my order, andthe way I show up is, I'm angry,
and I tell them, don't you dare.
You know, And I say, don't.
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Don't burn my stuff.
Do this, do that.
And I show up in therestaurant giving my order that way,
and the waiter goes back tothe chef and says, burn this One,
you know, because I showed upthat way or I insulted them either
in my manner or my language orsomething, it impacts the food that
I get, right?
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Oh, without a doubt.
That goes back to what you putout in the world, comes back to you.
So how you show up and whatyou're putting out there, that is
a universal law.
It's going to come back to youthat way.
So again, being conscious,when you show up, how are you showing
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up?
I love that.
So tell me how you got there.
Because being conscious, likeas we're raised, we're given feedback
practically from the cradlethat we're not enough.
You did this wrong, you didthat wrong.
Grades and friends andbetrayals and jobs and failures and
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all those things sort of beatinto us.
The idea that we're not enoughand we have to scramble and live
in this sort of fearful wayand you don't fall up the mountain
of consciousness.
Like you don't get there accidentally.
So tell me a little bit about.
It's all a deliberate process.
Yeah, talk a bit, a little bitabout that.
How did you get to get up, geta ways up that hill?
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I'm seven of 10.
I came from a family of 10with a single parent.
My mom and dad weren'ttogether, so she was doing the best
she could, but I always feltthat I didn't belong there.
And it was a very strictreligious upbringing, Pentecostal
holiness.
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I mean, they had so many rulesand regulations.
I didn't understand what theywere doing.
They, you know, believed verystrictly in the Bible and, you know,
I had questions from a little child.
I was always in troublebecause I didn't understand what
they were talking about.
But I had a near deathexperience, my first near death experience
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at 23.
And I was told that, well,basically the doctors told my family,
if you know how to pray, youbetter pray because there's nothing
we can do for her.
I had contracted serumhepatitis through some dental work
and didn't know.
Took him six months to figurethat out.
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By the time figured it out, Iwas in the third stages of the disease
where you just sleep away.
And I remember the minister ofthe church, the bishop of that church,
he looked at me, he said, youknow, we've been praying, we've sent
to all these differentorganizations he belonged to.
And the red flag, you're outof here, basically, right?
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But then he looked at me andsaid, but if you want to live, you
have to choose.
And I thought to myself, I'mout of here because I don't know
the God y'all will be talkingto, right?
So I'm like, I'm out of here.
But that.
You know, they got me to the hospital.
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And I think when you thinkabout a mother's love, it's one of
the most powerful things inthe universe.
My mother was there every dayfrom the time visiting hours started
till they were closed.
And she would come and shewould wake me up.
She'd keep me.
She was holding me to this side.
And every night, I would dream.
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And the dreams were so vividbecause they were like my life was
playing out, you know, all thethings that had happened to me while
I had it so far.
And then one night, I didn't dream.
And when I woke up the nextmorning, the strangest thing had
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happened.
I wasn't who I was when I wentto sleep, and I knew I wasn't.
The sun was coming through thewindow, and I'm looking at this sun.
I was so excited to see itbecause I'd never seen it before.
I knew intellectually, but I'dnever seen it before.
I looked down.
I saw trees.
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I knew, that's a tree.
Oh, that's what it looks like.
This is what was happening inmy mind.
And I knew that I was healed.
There was no illness in me.
But the other strange thingwas I had the memories, but it was
like I'm looking in someoneelse's mind because I had no recollection
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of experiencing that stuff.
So I'm looking in someoneelse's memories.
It took me 10 years to findout what that was, what had happened
that night.
But it set me on a path.
You said, how did I get here?
So that's what set me on thispath of awakening.
And it didn't happencompletely because I had to.
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I went there two more times,but I never stopped growing.
Took me 10 years to figure outthat that was an exchange, which
I don't know if you've ever heard.
Tell me what you mean.
An exchange what?
A walk in.
An exchange of souls.
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The soul that was there, here,when I was born chose to leave and
agree to allow a walk in.
And that's why everything wasso new, why I didn't understand.
Although I quickly adapted, Istill had this.
What.
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What am I doing here?
Do you feel like I've heardthe term walk in before?
Do you feel.
And you use the word, the pronoun.
I just now.
So.
But if you were a differentsoul from 0 to 23, and that happened
at 23, where a second soulcame in and walked in to that life
and then saw the old memories,but didn't have the experience of
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having experienced them.
You use the pronoun I.
Did it?
Did it feel like I or they?
I mean, like, how did youexperience that ownership?
No, I.
I didn't know what had happened.
So I could only use the I.
Okay.
Because I didn't understandthe process.
And like I said, it took me 23.
I mean, 10 years.
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This book I found had no cluewhy I'm reading this woman.
Her name was Ruth Montgomeryand she had a series of books.
One was called the StrangersAmong Us.
And when I picked up the bookand started to read it, I recognized
the process.
To me, now I understand.
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And what I've been able toreally understand about that process.
In the exchange, the agreementwas that I would finish out whatever
the previous soul hadcommitted to before I could begin
my process.
Okay.
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It took me a while and then Ithink after the last.
I was 46 when I had the lastnear death experience.
I'd had a gallbladder surgerythrough a clot and went bad.
It sit in my body for 30 days.
My lung began to atrophy.
Of course they're thinking,this woman's out of here because
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all it takes is a piece off ofthat blood clot that's setting in
her lung and she's gone.
And there were some amazingthings that happened about that.
But the message from that was,you don't need to come here again
to get what you have.
And that sent me on a wholedifferent direction than I had been
on.
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So that told me I was completewith that.
And now the downloads becamequicker, clearer.
I began to understand.
People showed up in my life tosupport what was happening to me,
to help me understand what wasgoing on and who I was.
And I'm still in question ofthat, trust me.
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But my.
My whole life changed.
So let me ask you questionabout that.
I believe you and I, we'vetalked before, and, you know, I had
an experience where I died also.
But anyway, tell me one of thethings we use, the language we use
is.
And then I understand what mylife's about.
Just like what you just said,we say that.
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And so this might get to thesecond part of what you said about
adding good to the world.
You had these remarkableexperiences that helped you see who
you really were and that youwere what you were about, which is
living consciously and makingintentional conscious decisions about
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what you add to the world withyour thinking and language.
And part two was to help wakeup or awaken as many other people
as you can so that they willdo that.
Tell me for the listeners,help me them understand what you
mean by what I'm about, whatI, who I am and helping others wake
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up.
Like what does that all meanin plain language?
So someone listening to thiscan say, wow, I either have or I
want to have a more fulsomeunderstanding or experience about
that.
When I say what I'm all about,I begin to understand my purpose,
why that exchange happened.
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Does that make sense?
It doesn't tell us what truly I.
In fact, I'm not going to sayI believe I know every soul that
enters this realm has a purpose.
But like you were sayingearlier, we are, we come in through
the birth canal, which I callthe river of forgetfulness, and we
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forget why we came and so thatwe can experience this world in a
way that we have chosen toexperience it.
So what happens though is thatyou said earlier we're influenced
by this person, that person,our environment.
If you watch a little child,they're learning at lightning speed.
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They're picking up not justwhat you're saying because they don't
really listen to that.
They're watching what you'redoing, they're watching what's happening
around them.
And so the way our, oursociety is set up, it does not support
us being the powerful beingsthat we truly are.
So in the process, there arethings that will happen along our
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lifeline that are meant tohelp wake us up.
But because of the way thatour society is built, rather than
taking the pearls from whathappened and allowing what we call
mistakes to becomeexperiences, we either latch onto
that and become victims.
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You know, oh, this happened tome, blah blah, blah, blah.
So now you're off your path again.
Something that happened tosomeone to come in.
Maybe you'll have some healingwith your trauma or whatever, but
you get back on that path.
The point is to recognize Icame here to experience these emotions
or those emotions, what,however you want to say it.
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And my purpose here is to helpothers that have experienced this
wake up and realize who theyare as powerful beings.
Because I believe that we'reall much more powerful than we recognize.
But we've given that poweraway based on how our society is
set up.
Everything in our society tellus that we're victims or that we're
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weak or we can't do this or wecan't do that.
You know, you look, you look,look at tv, listen to radio.
It's always somethingnegative, something bad.
You better be afraid of this.
You better Be afraid of that.
So when I say who I am, I'veseen through the bs, I've seen through
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the Matrix, I've seen throughthe illusion.
And we all have that ability.
And that's what this greatawakening is about.
Seeing through the illusionsthat we have created.
No one else came and created this.
I agree.
So I want to go there.
You said a couple of timesabout society teaches us this by
the way it's structured.
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Why do you think, and I knowyou're making this up here, because
we all are, but why is itstructured that way?
Why is it that frompractically the moment we're born,
for nearly everyone, I won'tsay everybody, but nearly everyone,
it is structured or seems tobe structured so that it beats the
crap out of our self confidence.
Let me just cut through it,let me cut through it.
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Because we decided we're goingto create this game that we want
to come here and play in, right?
And so because we set therules, because we've forgotten, right?
So that we could experienceall of this stuff that we've created.
Well, what's happening iswe're at the end of the game.
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In fact, 2024 was the end of a25,000 year cycle.
We're coming into a new cycle.
That game is over.
It's time to wake up.
So we're starting to wake up.
It's like the Earth began tomove into a higher dimension.
A faster vibrational frequency.
So the energy's changed aroundthis planet.
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We are being affected by that energy.
More and more people arewaking up.
Oh, this doesn't feel right.
And you, I'm sure people talkto you all the time, say I don't
know, you know what I used tobelieve, it just doesn't make sense
anymore.
This, this is kind of this,this ain't right.
No, no, I don't want to do that.
Because the energy of thisplanet has changed and people are
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beginning to wake up.
We're moving into a new cycle.
We can create somethingdifferent now.
But there's nothing out therethat's created this.
We are the creators and we setit up that way.
So yeah, when I say thissociety, I'm talking about what we
did, not what somethingoutside, something, you know, out
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there.
Nothing is orchestrating us.
We are orchestrating ourselves.
And that's what we have towake up to and realize.
We created this illusion of,you know, this God sitting out there.
This energy out there.
No, it's within us.
What do you think in thischange that's happening now in the
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new energy.
And I agree it just in termsof language that I hear people using,
this yearning to do more, bemore, create, take control.
You know, everybody languagesit differently, but people are feeling
that.
What is the new creation?
Can you describe at least tostart with what you think this new
creation is that we're beingasked, invited, driven to create.
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Okay, so the new creation,first of all starts with recognizing
that we're all one, that we'reall connected.
What I do to you, I do to myself.
That illusion is gone.
I recognize we're all from theone source.
There's one source.
And we're all.
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We've.
We.
We have created these littlepieces of ourselves so that we could
experience what we create,which then helps us to expand.
But we're all the same thing.
Does that make sense?
I understand.
Absolutely.
Non duality is the interestingway to say that.
Yeah.
And maybe some people willunderstand it and maybe they won't,
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but I think everybody willunderstand what you do to someone
else, you do to yourself,because there is essentially unity.
So keep going.
So when we.
When we begin to understandthat we are one, we are all connected,
it changes the whole dynamicof how we treat one another, right?
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Yes.
I'm not going to hurt myself.
So if I'm not going to hurtmyself, I'm not going to hurt you.
It raises the bar of what we create.
And so sharp, quick version.
Heaven on Earth, period.
You ask me what it looks like,what we track.
Heaven on Earth, okay?
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Where.
These bodies, our avatars, wedon't mistreat them because they
will regenerate themselves,but it's because of the environment
and how we eat and, you know,what we do to ourselves that these,
these avatars break down so quickly.
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Okay.
And science is beginning tounderstand that these bodies can
do a lot more than what they thought.
You don't put those chemicalsthat, you know, anything from the
pharmaceutical started outnatural, but they added chemicals
to it.
And that's why you see therise of plant medicine, because people
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are going back to what thisEarth was meant to support us completely.
I saw it.
I do.
I saw a YouTube video.
I didn't look at the video,but the title said, in the2030s,
it's going to be such that wehuman beings can live forever.
And I don't know if that'strue or not, but it's an interesting
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thought.
About what you're talkingabout when you say forever.
When you say forever, as youmove into the higher consciousness,
you move out of time and space anyway.
There Is no time and space.
This is something we createdfor this game.
You see what I'm saying?
I do.
So when you say livingforever, what's forever?
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You see, well, forever is aconstruct that we have when we measure
time in a linear fashion.
And you're saying, thank you,that goes away because we stopped
being linear about it all.
And we recognize that.
Thank you.
Sort of spherical or circularnature of all of it.
Yes.
So tell me about the work thatyou do now.
I.
We started with, you know,what happened and your purpose and
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how you're adding good to theworld and your journey.
And you've described notanywhere near all of it, but a number
of events that have broughtyou to this place.
So tell me about the work, orI don't even want to call it work.
Because that's called play to me.
Yeah.
All right.
So I love that.
And thank you.
What I play when I'm playingwith people, I come.
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I am a spiritual architect.
And what does an architect do?
They lay out the plans tobuild a new container.
So I help the people that Iwork with build a container so that
they can be all that they can be.
Because when I say we'repowerful, we're so much bigger than
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these physical bodies.
We're so much more.
When you realize that you arepart of everything, that you are
one with everything, there'snothing that you cannot do.
The only thing that's stoppingyou is you and your belief.
You're limited by your vision.
We're limited by our vision,by our imagination.
(25:43):
So if I'm coming to you with alimited or shriveled up vision of
my own possibility, but I havethis yearning and underlying sense
that there could be, shouldbe, is something more, but I don't
know how to access it.
You're telling me that whatyou do, you work with me, to architect,
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to eliminate the falseboundaries, to eliminate the barriers
that I put up and create alarger space and a larger vision
so I can begin to not only seeand pretend, but to experience the
possibility of this larger vision.
Is that what you're saying?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
And what I do is when I'mworking with someone, I'm listening
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not to what you're saying, butwhat you're not saying.
Because that's where the key is.
We're good at telling our stories.
But what is it that you're notsaying to me that I need to know
that I need to hear?
That is so.
I love that.
Because you're right.
What we Say is just aregurgitation of what we've always
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said and what we believed andthis gobbledygook that we've accepted
for however long.
And so help me and thelisteners understand, what is the
not saying.
Yeah, I had a client that hiswife sent him to me because they
were having some maritalissues, right?
And the first session that wehad, he looked at me and he said,
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so how long is this going to take?
And I looked at him, said, how.
How long do you want it to take?
It's going to take as long asyou want it to take.
But I began to see in himbecause he's telling me he's confessing
all the wrong that he's done, right?
But what he's not telling meis the underlining, driving energy
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that's caused that helped himto make those decisions.
And what he really desired, right?
And what he really desired wasto be the head of his household.
And he didn't feel that way.
So he would go out and haveaffairs with him because they made
him feel like king, right?
But he couldn't say that.
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And I never had to say it tohim, but I led him to the place where
he could say it.
What is going on?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I was able to lead him to thatspace where he could say to himself,
and he could hear himself sayit, that that's what he wanted to
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be, is the tree in which allof his family was covered.
But it was only because I'mlooking beyond what he's telling
me to see what his desire is.
Does that make sense to you?
It does.
He had a desire that wasn'tfulfilled, and he was chasing other
ways to fulfill it that werecausing all these problems, obviously,
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solution.
But he had never said it to himself.
He had never acknowledged whatthe yearning was.
And that's how people oftenget into these situations that they
don't want to be in becausethey're not willing to be honest
with themselves.
They're not willing to lookwithin themselves and truly understand,
what is it that I desire.
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They're chasing their wantsrather than their desires.
See, and the desire issomething you already have.
A want is something that youdon't have.
And you think, if I keep doingthis, I'll get it.
No.
But when you say, I want this,I want that, I want this, the universe
says, okay, Kellen, want it.
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We'll make sure he wants it.
But when you say, I desirethis, because you know, this is what
you're made of.
This is part of you.
The universe goes on, says,okay, let me create more of what
he is.
Let me create more of what hehas already.
So the foundation there is abig distinction between a desire,
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which is consistent with thetruth of my eternal nature, and want,
which is an artificialconstruct maybe created by these,
this game that we're playingor all this sort of thing.
And so these artificial wantscome on there and we confuse wants
and desires and think, if Iget enough wants, I'll get the desire.
And that's not true, becausethe desire is consistent with the
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truth of who we really are.
Yeah.
And you only get more of itwhen you recognize this is my true
desire.
Those wants will have you outthere chasing all kind of things,
doing all kind of things,because you're wanting something
that's not what you are.
And see, what you are isalready everything.
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You don't have to want it.
Acknowledge what you are, andall things are possible.
We live in an unlimited universe.
It's like people say, and Ithink I want.
Well, that's not how you create.
You create by I imagine.
When you say I imagine thisfor myself, that's like the ignition
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turns on.
The universe is now gone to work.
It's bringing that imaginationbecause you see it when you imagine
something.
Think about it.
Kids playing, they'reimagining their friend, they're imagining
this, and it's real.
That's how we create.
It's like we have to becomelittle children again and use that
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powerful part of ourselves toimagine our world to be what we desire
to be.
It's fascinating.
Often people go talk about howlittle kids they want without limits.
In other words, they can beboth the president and a fireman
and an astronaut and be in allthese places at the same time.
And the idea of lack andlimitation doesn't occur to them.
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And we learn that limitationas we have these experiences playing
this game.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's why you have to, Imean, and even think about it.
Even the, the master Yeshuasays, unless you become as a little
child, you cannot enter the kingdom.
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Right.
And the kingdom is heaven on earth.
It's a, it's a state of consciousness.
So when you work with people,is it like a set of.
Do you meet with them?
Do you meet with them weekly, monthly?
Do you.
I, I week.
I meet with.
Normally when I do one onones, it's usually a minimum of a
(32:21):
year because we got a lot ofstuff to clean up.
Right.
Okay.
And I meet with them once aweek and we do it on Zoom.
And they have Assignmentsthat, you know, I'll give them.
Do this, work on this, work on it.
Because one of the biggest.
One of the biggest holes thatpeople have fallen into is not loving
themselves.
And they talk about, oh, yeah,you got to love yourself, but it's
(32:44):
not as simple as that.
You got to go in there andundo some stuff that's.
Understand.
Understand who and what youare, because you come as pure love.
And like you said, all thesethings that happen in this game pushes
you away.
You're not good enough.
You're not this, you're not that.
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You got to learn to loveyourself unapologetically.
It's like, you know, peoplesay, if you're selfish, how can you
be?
Well, there's a selfishnessthat you have to be in order to love
yourself unapologetically.
Because if you're not okay,how are you going to help someone
else?
Well, there's a difference between.
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Yeah, there's a differencebetween selfish indulgence and truly
honoring the infinite beingthat you are.
You know, honoring theinfinite being you are is taking
good care of the skin bag, thespirit that's inside, and all of
the rest.
Yes.
And exuding and sharing thelove and truth that is also them,
because they are me.
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So thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
Because people are saying, oh,I love you enough.
How can you give something youdon't have?
If you don't love yourself,you cannot love someone else.
I call that situational orconditional love.
As long as you're doing what Isay, I love you.
When you don't, do we got a problem.
You go into the lack category.
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Okay, And.
And you'll find it withparents and children and husband
and wives, and you'll findthat going on everywhere.
And people are dying from thelack of love, loving themselves first.
Because when you loveyourself, no, you're not going to
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allow certain things in yourlife, and you can do it without any
anger or frustration or bitterness.
You can do it from a place of love.
You know, I set boundary froma place of love.
I was in.
Where was I at?
I think I was in India.
And we were on the bus, andthis man comes in and he, you know,
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his wife wanted to sit in aseat where I was, but I had my suitcase
there, and I was sitting bythe window.
So I was trying to tell herto, wait, let me get out and let
her in.
And he starts talking crazy to me.
Who.
Why you talk to her?
Why did.
And I just looked at him andsaid, did I give you permission to
speak to Me.
And I know I did not give youpermission to speak to me in this
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way.
And he was like, but see, thatwas a boundary.
You don't get to just speak tome anyway just because you have a
mouth.
You don't get to use yourmouth as a weapon against me.
That's not okay.
And I have a right to say toyou, hope you're crossing the boundary
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here.
And I don't have to be angry.
It just is.
People can't do that.
A lot of people want.
They have to be angry or theyhave to be frustrated or they shrink
into victim.
Right.
Subservience.
You love yourself.
You set boundaries.
You do.
And you're doing it becauseyou're honoring the truth of your
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divinity.
It's not about pushing youaway because I'm better than.
Or you can't this, that, andthe other.
And it's also a truth thatthey could learn.
Look at this person honoringtheir divinity, their divine nature
and being.
Setting a boundary for me.
Wow.
What is that saying about methat I was even violating?
I mean, most people aren'tgoing to go that introspective.
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Tell me.
Not, not, not.
Not at first.
But if they keep talking tome, they'll get there.
Yeah, I believe you.
I believe you.
I, I'm.
And you know, we had a.
We had a brief chance to talkanother day and I really enjoyed
that as well as we got to knoweach other.
So I want people to know howto find you, how to find your programs
and find out more about, like,I don't know if you've got programs
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and I know you said you meetwith people a certain way, but how
do we, how do we do that?
I actually do.
My website is www EstherJones1Word-Alley.com and it has all
of my programs on it.
It has my sacred journeysbecause I do also do sacred journeys
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to India, Egypt.
Planning to do one this yearto Bali.
I went last year to kind ofscope it out.
And I, I take people on thesejourneys so they can feel the energy
of these sacred places that isstill there.
And all of that's on that website.
I also am on Facebook underEsther Ali and I'm on.
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On Instagram, Esther Jones alley.
I'm on LinkedIn.
Esther Alley.
Esther Jones Alley.
So all these places, I amthere and.
Welcome to Reach Out.
Welcome to Reach Out.
What?
Did I not ask you that you'redying for me or others that are watching
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to know.
I'm not dying for anything,first of all.
Okay.
That you would enjoy or Loveto have people know or hear.
Well, again, like I said, I goon these sacred journeys.
I still have some spots for India.
I'm doing India.
And February 24 through March8, we're doing all of South India.
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We'll be going to several cities.
We'll be, you know, have achance to bathe an elephant, spend
the night on a riverboat, thewhole bit.
I'm really excited about it.
In 2024, I went to NorthIndia, so I want to finish out the
continent.
There's so much energy there,but a lot of people don't get a chance
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to experience it.
I call India the land ofunconditional love.
But because they.
People go there with judgment, with.
With preconceived notions.
You know, you see all the.
The propaganda about this.
This country.
And so they never get pastthat to really feel the unconditional
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love.
That's the secret of India, isunconditional love.
And if you can get past all ofyour judgment and expectation, you
will get to experience that power.
Egypt is the land of the gods.
And when I go there, I get towalk with them, I get to commune
with them.
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They're there, but theyvibrate on a different frequency,
which is much higher than whatwe are on.
But if you raise yourfrequency high enough, they'll meet
you and speak with you.
These are entities that havebeen there for eons because remember,
they don't die.
Okay, so I love this.
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And I want to repeat.
Estherjones ali a l l e y.comso take a look and see.
I encourage you to do that, Esther.
Thank you for your presenceand thank you for your laughter,
for your heart, and for your.
Your true and unvarnishedyearning for people to love themselves
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and therefore create their possibilities.
Yes.
And just be open and willingand more conscious.
Start to think before youspeak because we're always creating.
And what are you creating?
What is it that you desire tosee in your life?
Be conscious.
Wake up.
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So, yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
So I want to.
You betcha.
I want to encourage all of you listeners.
Go back and listen.
There were lots of pieces here.
The focus is just being aware.
Start with being aware of whatyou're creating, because it's not
just what you're doing, it'slike you're creating.
The energy you send out withyour language, internally and externally
is creating, is what welearned today.
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So be aware of that.
And there's one more piecethat is really important.
Be willing to takeresponsibility for what you're creating.
Nothing comes into our world unbidden.
Nothing shows up that we donot call in on some level.
And as you become conscious,you begin to recognize what it is
you're calling into your world.
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So be willing to take theresponsibility as well.
It's not just being consciousof what you're creating.
Be willing to take theresponsibility and ask questions.
What is this here in my lifeto serve me?
How is this going to serve me?
What am I supposed to learnwhen something that we call bad happened?
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Go in and pull the pearls from it.
Because there's some pearls inthere that's meant for you to grow
from.
Not to sit down as a victim,but to open up your heart and let
it teach you what it's come toteach you.
So I wanted to throw that inbecause it's not enough just to be
conscious, but you've got tobe willing to take responsibility
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for everything.
Not some everything that showsup in your life because you've called
it in.
So I love that and I actuallycompletely agree.
So please do that listeners,and then think about this.
You know, your ultimate lifeis a life you create.
And if you do this, if youtake responsibility and become aware
of and create consciously,then you will be able to create your
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own ultimate life.
Every episode gives youpractical tips and practices that
will change everything.
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