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Hello there and welcome to tothis episode of your ultimate life,
the podcast dedicated tohelping you create a life of purpose,
prosperity and joy by servingwith your life experience your gifts
and talents.
Got a special guest today,Mark Shalinsky.
Mark, welcome to the show.
Hey, thanks.
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Great to be here.
So, you know you're an AI whizand you were just telling me ahead
of time about a potential wayto create courses and I was interested
in that.
And I think, you know, becausethis show's about helping people
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do what they want to do, I saysee AI as a big boon in that way
because it speeds up mundanethings and eliminates a lot of it
and allows us to get into morecreative space where we can do good.
First of all, do you think so too?
And then tell me about thatcourse creation thing you were talking
about, because I think AI isgoing to change the nature of work
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and stuff.
So talk a little bit about that.
Sure.
So, yeah, AI is changing thelandscape of everything.
I mean, the, the way weconsume data, the way information
is passed, you know, the, the,the phrase of, you know, let, oh,
let me Google that has, isstarting to go away.
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And now, you know, let me ask chat.
GPT is becoming much moremainstream as a, as a search modality
and that's really changing theway the way people impact with information
and the way information getsout there, both to the good and the
bad.
I mean, unfortunately, justlike search engines, AI is biased
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based on the people who taught it.
So I think we'll see morebiases coming in in certain areas
and eventually somebody'sgoing to create an unbiased AI LLM,
if that's possible.
Although, I don't know, Ithink you and I both agree.
I don't think that's possible.
I don't know how you do that.
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I know AI would have to create.
The AI and some of that is happening.
AI is writing software, AI isteaching itself.
But no, the platform we weretalking about is actually, it's from
Google, it's actually calledNotebook lm.
And what it allows you to dois upload a library of resource information
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and then from that, the it'sAI will create whatever you want.
You can tell it, use thisinformation and create a course,
Use this information andcreate a book.
Use this Information andcreate a workbook.
The one we were playing withyesterday was use this information
and write the script for apodcast that is interview style,
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where we have two peoplespeaking and one is asking questions
and one is answering questions.
And then we can take thatscript and push it over into an audio
generator AI and actuallyoutput a fully interactive two person
conversation style newscast orpodcast, 100% AI generated, which
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is just.
Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.
Well, I know that's a weirdway to start the show, but it was
just follow on from what wedid and I thought it would be fun
to have it in there.
So you just told me somethingalso that was really meaningful to
me and you may not even haveeven known that.
You told me that you're up inPhilly right now to go to a funeral
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for someone that meant a lotto you.
And the story about that was important.
And I'm going to tie it into.
Because this, you know, myapproach to all this is, however
intelligent we are, howevermuch cool stuff we create, the real
substance of life is thespiritual, the meaning, the relationships,
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you know, who we decide to be,how we show up in the world.
And your story about whyyou're there at this funeral, if
you don't mind, tell me aboutthat and tell me why that's.
It was important enough foryou to fly from.
Where did you fly?
The South Pole?
Up to Philadelphia, from Tampaup to Philly.
Yeah, I was teasing about the penguins.
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Yeah, we don't have anypenguins down in Tampa.
So, you know, my, my fatherwas a very, very instrumental figure
in my life.
He, he taught me my work ethic.
He taught me so much as I wasgrowing up and unfortunately we lost
him way too young.
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He's been gone actually acouple weeks ago.
He was 25 years and so.
But while I was growing up, myfather was a New York City police
officer and his partner from,I'll date him, it's mid-1960s to
mid-1970s, actually justpassed away.
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And so I was on the phone withmy sister and we both decided that
he was, you know, he was animportant enough figure in our lives
that we wouldn't, we didn'thesitate, you know, just hopped on
a plane and, and flew upbecause we're.
It's amazing how differentcharacters, different people in our
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lives come and go over time,but the ones that stick the most
and, and I have, you know,it's not somebody necessarily who
you see every day, even inlater years, but he was very instrumental
in, in my life growing up andyou know, it's just one of those
figures that I, I wouldn'thesitate to hop on a plane to see
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and, and I fortunately got tosee him last year and he was doing
okay.
And now unfortunately we gotthe bad news, so I flew up here for
this.
That's precious.
And I thank you for allowingme to ask you that question and for
talking about that becauseit's easy to talk about other stuff
and I wanted to just bringthat in because it is so important
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for you as a listener and forMark and for me, but for you to remember
the things that are important,that make your life the ultimate
life is your life purpose.
And the importance of thatperson is connected to that, our
connection as human beings.
And so thank you for that.
I'm going to move over to whatyou do from, for a little bit on
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in business.
And I know you talked, whenyou and I talked at the event where
we spoke, you talked about AIagents and helping, you know, businesses
create that micro employeesand stuff.
In an earlier broadcast I didwith someone else, we were talking
about the progression whenthere used to be, when compute PCs
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first came into being.
And I was in corporate thenand you know, somebody having a PC,
that was a big deal.
And then there was rumors thatpretty soon everybody's gonna have
a PC on their desk and like,you know, those gasp of budgets and
that'll never happen.
And, and then, you know,within a year or two everybody did
and.
And then there was the storyof senior management or executives
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or something would say, oh,you know, I'm not very techie out
on any of that crap.
And for a while that was kindof, you know, okay.
And then it became kind ofquaint and funny and of course anybody
a few years later that saidthat was just like a dinosaur and
stupid.
And I'm thinking the same kindof thing.
We were talking about the fearthat people have with this kind of
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technology and with yourexpertise and thinking about that
progression, which youprobably saw too.
Tell me about how this AIadoption is going to take, including
what you do with microemployees and helping people and
anywhere you want to go withthat, but just talk about this progression
as you see how fast it's moving.
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So the progression itself isactually very interesting.
I mean, AI from a conceptstandpoint has been around for decades.
I mean machine learning and,and algorithms and things like that.
I mean we've, we've seen it inall aspects of our lives and most
people don't even realize how,how integral it is in every aspect
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of what they're doing.
I mean, I like using theexample of, okay, if you've got an
iPhone, you've got Siri.
Well, that's an AI.
You've got Alexa at home.
If you're, you know, if you'vegot an Amazon device, that's an AI.
But even, even more basic thanthat, any kind of software that you
use that does any kind ofpredictive or recommendation algorithm.
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So Amazon, Netflix, all thestreaming services do this.
They analyze what youractivities are.
Social media does the same thing.
They analyze what youractivities are, and then an AI algorithm
then makes recommendations foryou based on that.
So the, the huge section ofthe population that are kind of AI
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resistant are really using it.
They just don't realize thatthey're using it.
But adoption rates as a wholeare actually surprisingly low.
OpenAI released Chat GPT inNovember of 2022.
That's when it went live tothe public.
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I was watching an interviewabout three weeks ago with the founder
of OpenAI, and he was sayingthat they only have only 500 million
users globally in the last.
So in a little less than threeyears, they've brought on 500 million
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free user accounts.
So it's not people who arepaying to use the service, it's free
user accounts.
And only about 10 to 20% ofthose get used on a daily or weekly
basis.
Wow.
So a lot of that is peoplewho, as I speak on AI, one of the
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things that I hear all thetime is, oh, yeah, I looked at that
a year ago and it sucked.
And then I just put it awayand I never went back to it because
it sucked.
And you think about how muchit's grown in the last month or two,
let alone the last year.
And all those people who putit away and said, oh, it sucked,
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I'm not going to go back toit, are really completely oblivious
to what's changed.
And anybody who spends anytime on Facebook or any other social
media watches these trendscome and go.
The big ones, the image onesthat were really popular a month
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or two ago, whereas everybodywas making a version of themselves
as the little toy, the actionfigure in the bubble wrap or the
boxed toy or Funko Pop orwhatever, and that was because image
generation with AI had reacheda tipping point where somebody found
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a really cool way of promptingit to do something that somebody
was like, oh, I want to seemyself as a, as an action figure.
Let me see that.
That's really cool.
And they would go down thisrabbit hole and they would waste
half a day playing with it,and they Got nothing tangible out
of it except this really cool,you know, a few really cool images.
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And in a lot of cases theywere like, okay, so AI can make really
cool images of action figures.
And now I'm going to go backto my job.
They didn't realize that ithas grown that much.
There's the new, the newesttrend that's coming out right now
is Google released videosoftware called VO3V03.
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And you see all these videoson social media now of these, the
yeti or the gorilla, that'slike a little 5 second video clip
of a gorilla, like doing aselfie cam and talking.
Those, those are, it's amazingto me what had.
People are saying, oh that's cool.
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But they're not realizing theramifications of that.
The entire video and movieindustry was just turned upside down.
You know, when I'm a bigfantasy sci fi kind of guy.
And I remember when Lord ofthe Rings, remember when Lord of
the Rings came out, the movie.
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Oh yeah.
So the director of Lord of theRings, when they finished filming,
he spent two years editingthat movie to the final three hour
cinematic release.
Two years of an editing teamediting all that footage down to
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make the movie.
Now he can take a picture ofan actor, drop it into an AI software
and say, have this characterdo this in this setting and say this
in his voice and the AI willproduce that and he'll have a five
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second or a seven second clipthat he can then piece together with
a whole lot of other 5 or 7second clips and make an entire movie
at cinematic quality.
Do we have any of a month?
Do we have any of those movies yet?
Not yet, but I think we'regoing to see them very soon.
A friend of mine, I thought you.
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Were going to tell me and thename of it is, and I was going to
go look it up, but.
A friend of mine just produceda 45 second TV commercial.
So it's like it's 12 differentframes, it's 12 different scenes,
about three to four secondseach because you got to have the
fast cuts and everything.
So he produced a 45 second TVcommercial to sell a product.
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No studio, no actors.
He did the entire thing withAI in about an hour.
And that was only because hewas learning it as he went.
So what do you think?
When do you, how fast do youthink this is going to be before
people adopt it?
Is it really going to take along time or a short time?
What do you think?
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I think things like that willbe adopted by the fringe of the profession,
like the video editingprofessions, the fringe is going
to adopt it first because thehardliners are going to stick to
their guns just like mostpeople do.
They're too caught up in their stuff.
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And I would say within amatter of two months, we're going
to see fully created shortmovies or shorts or TV shows that
are almost 100% AI generated.
I guess they're going to betrying to.
The actors that they use aregoing to be getting them to pay for,
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you know, the name, likelikeness, image stuff.
Right.
Like they do with the sports.
Yeah, and that's.
And we're already seeing that.
I mean, you know, you've got audiobooks.
Amazon is.
Amazon's Audible has been theholdout in the audiobook industry
for, for a couple of years nowwhere they haven't allowed audio,
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they haven't allowed AInarrators, and they just changed
that a couple months ago.
And now you could have the next.
You know, so you write a bookand you want an, you want to release
an audiobook, but version youliterally click a button and it generates
an AI narrator to read yourbook and it's up on Audible the next
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day.
Now, they're not as good as ahuman narrator.
They don't have all the toneand inflection and everything else,
but it's good enough.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
So maybe I need to do that.
I was going to clone my voicein elevenlabs and have it read the
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book.
11 Labs is still the bestplatform for that.
Absolutely.
You know what?
I did an 11 lab deep voiceclone of mine and uploaded 3 hours
of stuff and I didn't like itvery much, so I must have done something
wrong, so I'll have to go doit again.
You gotta have pick 10 of yourclosest friends and have them listen
to it.
Don't you listen to it?
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Okay.
You know, most people don'tlike the way their voice sounds in
general, so.
Yeah, well, I noticed in thestudio, right, when I'd have singers
come over, they'd say, I don'tsound like that.
The reason we do that isbecause half of what we hear of our
own voice goes through theinside, the canal in the, you know,
the inside.
And so we don't, we don't, wedon't sound like we sound to anybody
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except us.
Like that's a true thingbecause of how we hear our stuff
from the inside.
Nobody else does.
So this is all fascinating.
And it sounds like things arechanging so quickly when you speak,
when you go speak about thisAI stuff, And it's business impact.
But the broader impact, whatare two or three things that you
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tell people that are the mostsurprising to them?
Like it's like holy crap kindof stuff.
The growth, the, the reallyquantifying the growth curve for
AI and how it's changing over time.
Most people don't realize howsmart AI has become in the last,
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the, the, the most recentOpenAI model, O4 mini according to
testing has an IQ of 157.
So it is smarter than 99.6% ofthe human population.
So we're actually approachingthe, in technology.
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There's this line where theysay that the computer is smarter
than the people and it, andit's, and it can think and learn
on its own.
And we are that close to thecusp of that where AI models can
train new AI models.
And once that happens, thegrowth is unlimited.
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It really is.
And people are a little scaredby that.
And it's a little bit of awake up call.
Honestly.
The biggest thing that peopleare surprised by is how easy it is
to use AI if you use it properly.
Everybody goes in and they saywrite me a story.
And you know, AI, it onlyknows what it knows.
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So the creativity piece isn'treally there.
It doesn't have a uniqueoriginal thought.
It only knows what it knows.
And so you can't ask it to becreative because all it can do is
mirror back to you some thingsthat it learned that it thinks are
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creative and it's going tosound like one of them.
So getting AI to speak likeother people is great.
Getting it to speak in theirvoice or their information is great.
It's still not there forgetting it to think on its own.
Those are both really, reallyinteresting points.
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So how do you think thisinnovation and, and you know, you
told me the other day thatit's doubling in intelligence or
capacity every few days.
I think you said, and, and Isaid something about it three months
that I'd seen somewhere andyou corrected me and said it's not
every few days.
And I was blown away by that.
How do you think that's going to.
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How rapidly and how much.
How do you think that's goingto affect what we do for work?
Right.
I mean people are afraid of itand they're afraid it's going to
take everybody's jobs.
And in some ways it is.
And I say yay.
Absolutely.
I'm like yay.
So talk a little bit about howthat's going to affect work and maybe
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some ideas about how somelisteners to this, who are thinking
about saving time and beingmore productive, not more creative,
because you said that's notthere yet, but just more productive
and therefore more free, more unburdened.
And you can tie it into what Iknow you do for some of what you
do for businesses.
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So the interesting thing is Iwrote a book called Leverage or Die
that's basically how to use AIMicro employees.
And what an AI micro employeeis a very, very task specific AI.
So it's designed to answer thephone and tell people what your store
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hours are or tell them whatyour return policy is.
It's very, very specific functions.
And in the book, what I runthe readers through an exercise where
I ask them to watch, to recordwhat they do, journal what they do
in the course of a week or amonth, depending upon what, how stable
what they do is, howconsistent it is.
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And I ask them to divide everytask into one of three buckets.
It's what does this taskrequire me personally?
So let's say I'm the business owner.
Does this task require me andonly me to do it?
Or does this task require ahuman being to do it, but not necessarily
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me?
I can outsource it.
I can have a hire an employeeto do it, a human employee to do
it.
And then there's the third bucket.
It's the repetitive,monotonous tasks that we all do as
humans and how do we.
So the goal is to take all ofthose tasks, identify what they are
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and move them to anautomation, move them to an AI and
free up our individual's timeto do more of what we, what we want
to do, whether it be businessor personal or growth.
I grew up, I grew up watchingpeople do that, you know, 80 hour
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grind when they started theirown business.
They worked 80, 100 hours aweek and gave up their family time
and gave up their free time.
And that's something that'snear and dear to me.
I don't want to see people whostrive to create their own business
and then basically builtthemselves a job.
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Part of what I teach is how toidentify a task that doesn't have
to be done by you, thebusiness owner, and how to offload
that to another person or toan AI and free back that time so
you can spend time with yourfamily, so you can be home at night
to have dinner and watch amovie with your kids or go to a sporting
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event.
My daughter is a freshman inhigh school and I was amazed.
We went to an awards ceremonya couple of weeks ago.
So the end of the school year,we went to an ROTC awards ceremony.
And with 350 kids in the ROTC,there was less than 150 parents there.
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And this is the end of year celebration.
This is the award ceremony forthe whole year.
But people couldn't make thetime to go watch their kid get an
award and be celebrated aspart of this community.
And it really broke my heart.
I was going to say, justhearing you tell the story, I'm sitting
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here gasping in pain for theheartache of all of those students.
Yeah.
And so I look at AI as a toolto help, whether it be a business
owner or somebody who has ajob, maybe they have a job that they
like, but how to automatetasks within their job, that makes
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it easier on them and providesmore growth and value to the company
they work for.
Wow.
So that's at least one of thebusinesses that you have where you
go into a business and helpthem make that analysis.
And then do you, do you helpthem get those micro employees created
or do they have to gosomewhere else to do that?
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No, we do it all.
So I do both.
We have both a done for youservice where we create them for
them or we have a course that,where we walk them through the process
and that way they can, youknow, duplicate it as many times
as they need.
You know, sometimes it's.
Sometimes a business needs 10of them.
Sometimes a business needs 50,you know, AI, AI micro employees,
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depending upon how large they are.
And that way, you know, theycan start offloading those tasks.
If I want to go find thatcourse or talk to you about that,
where do I go?
So to find information aboutthe book, it's leverageordie.com
and then to find informationon everything else that's@markschelensky.com
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so it's M A R K S H I L e n sk-y.com so I know.
That you just released thebook and when this episode goes out
in the middle of July, it'llbe a month or so out and I would
really encourage people to godo it.
And no, Mark's not paying me akickback for books sold.
But I know him and I know thework that he does, so I absolutely
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recommend that.
And if you're interested aboutgetting some consulting.
Markshalinsky.com that'sreally good.
Tell me a little bit moreabout your, your, your own personal
experience now that you'vebecome not only an expert at this,
but you help others do it.
What, what is it freed up foryou that has, how has it made you
closer to that life ofpurpose, prosperity and joy?
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The goal that we have whereevery day you love, you love what
you do and you don't doanything you don't want.
You know, that sort of ideal.
How has it moved you in that direction?
So just like I do with myclients, I go through this process
in my own business.
I have an amazing team ofassistants, human assistants who
do, who do a lot of the stuff.
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And we go through this processwith every one of our projects about
once a month where we look atthings, we say, okay, what new things
have become repetitive?
How do we outsource them, howdo we, how do we delegate them to
an AI?
What can we build to help makethings better?
And it's just become anongoing process.
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So, you know, I can work if I,if I was willing to let it happen,
I could easily work 80 hours a week.
But I don't, especially nowthat we're in the summertime.
You know, like I said, mydaughter's, you know, on summer break,
so we'll do some traveling andthings like that.
That's always been my familytime has always been an important
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part of my life.
A few years ago we took thesummer off, went to Europe and, and
I worked like two hours a day.
I was able to get online, domy two hours of consulting or calls
or whatever and then the restof the time was family time.
And because of that it, it'sallowed me to grow a lot more as
a person.
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I've been doing this for avery long time.
I've been on, been doing theonline marketing game for 27 years.
I was joking with somebody recently.
I launched my first revenuegenerating website in 1997.
Oh wow.
I'm an OG in the space.
And it's like, yeah, noquestion about that.
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So I love that.
So in other words, it hasimpacted you in measurable, tangible
ways that you can point to.
And I ask that because there'sso many people saying, maybe in good
faith do this and it'll fixyour life and save the world.
And there's quite a bit less,like 150 parents, you know, quite
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a less number that can say.
And it really does.
And I experience it and itreally has changed how I look at
work, how I experience it,from this all consuming thing that
I identify with to somethingthat I do to make money and so forth.
Yeah, unfortunately there's alot of people in a lot of, a lot
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of people in general who don'twalk their talk and kind of Portray
this Persona that's not whothey are.
I joke that in certain partsof the country it's like the number
of Lamborghinis and privatejets that are available for one day
rentals for photo shoots is,you know, is ridiculous.
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And it's a shame.
It's a shame that peoplemarket that way.
It's a shame that people runtheir businesses that way.
I, I could never do it.
And Florida is one of thoseplaces, isn't it?
It is, it is.
Down in Miami, it's.
It's a little crazy.
I'm sure it is.
I have a story about Miami,but we're not going to do that right
now.
Well, I went to Miami.
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I will.
I went to Miami to buy a car Iused to drive.
My favorite hot rod was aDodge viper.
So I've had three of them overthe years.
And one of them I souped up to850 horsepower and you know, ridiculous.
But anyway, one of them Ifound in Miami.
So I flew from Edmonton,Alberta to Miami and then drove it
home.
And it was funny because inthe showroom where I went, well,
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I took several days and infact I stopped in Phoenix on the
way home and took a four daygrand prix racing school at the bondurant
racing thing.
Right.
Wow.
But anyway, when I went in theshowroom there of this car, it was
like, yeah, that.
Right.
Lamborghinis and Ferraris andall over the place.
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And so that's why I saidFlorida's one of them because I was.
I saw one.
There it is.
Look at that.
Yeah.
All those things for rent.
Mark, I want you to tell me,you told me that family is really
important to you.
You model that you believe it.
I can tell as you speak fromyour energy the truth of that, that
belief.
We live in a world right now.
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That is where we measuresuccess by what we have.
You know, and if we somebodyhas more than somebody else, somehow
they have a better crown orthey're cooler, they have a, you
know, a different color glowaround them or something?
How did you get to a placewhere you've been in this Internet
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marketing world for 27 yearsand you know, all the characters
and how many of them didwhatever they did and went to jail
and, you know, sold theirsouls and all of the rest.
And you have come through that.
And here you are as a model ofsomeone who values the true things
in life that are more important.
How did that happen?
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Well, like I started this,like when we started this conversation,
my dad was a very big role model.
In my life, he was somebodywho really personified the honest,
hard working, ethical, youknow, model that I had the pleasure
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of learning at a young age.
And I, and I went through, Imean, I am nowhere near perfect in
any way, shape or form.
I went through my, I wentthrough my stages of things as a
kid and I went through mystages of things in business.
I, I started doing the, oh,you know what?
I can sell this course eventhough it sucks, just because I can
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make money at it.
And when I wake up and I lookin the mirror and I look at myself
and I go, am I happy and proudof what I'm doing and who I am?
I need to be able to look atmyself and say, yes, I am proud of
who I become.
And when I talk to my daughterand her friends and I'm like, you
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know, I want to be a rolemodel for them.
I want to because especiallyin this modern age of fast everything
and overnight billionaires andall this crazy people on TikTok and
influencers and the gray sideof things with some of the websites
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that are out there, I wantthem to look at me and say, you know
what?
I can be an ethical businessperson and I can model that and learn
from that.
And that's one of the thingsthat I hope to always portray in
the world.
I want to be that model forothers who say, you don't have to
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take shortcuts, you don't haveto do the things that you don't feel
proud of.
Thank you for saying that.
Because one of the things thatI preach incessantly is that creating
the life you want to live,which for me I use the words purpose,
prosperity and joy andeverybody uses their own words.
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You can create that and youcan, even in this crazy world of
shortcuts, liars andeverything else, you can have that
kind of life and enjoy itevery day and make good money and
provide real value and so forth.
You, you agree with that?
Absolutely, absolutely.
You know, I kind of, mybusiness motto is, you know, if,
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if, if somebody hires me andI'm working with them a year down
the road, if I can't go tothem and say, are you truly happy
with our business relationshipand our relationship over the last
year?
If they can't, if I, theycan't say yes to that, that they're
truly satisfied and happy, I'mjust going to give them their money
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back because obviously Ididn't achieve what I want, you know,
what I set out to do, whichwas positively impact their business
and their life you know, Idon't have a return policy.
My return policy is if you'rehappy, if you're unhappy, I'll give
you your money back.
Because I don't want tosomebody to look at me and feel like,
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oh, there's just anothermarketer who was dishonest.
And I got, and I got takenadvantage of.
Will it come back and bite me?
Has it come back and bite me?
Yes, there are people thatwill take advantage of that.
But you know what?
That's.
Karma's on them.
Thank you for saying that.
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Because, you know, there aremany who think that you gotta cut
corners and you gotta cheatand you gotta do this, that and the
other.
And I like what you saidearlier about looking yourself in
the eyes and you can't fool you.
You know, there's that oldpoem which I won't quote right now,
but it's about the man in the glass.
You know, your final rewardwill be heartache and tears if you've
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cheated the man in the glass.
And it's talking about lookingin the mirror.
And I just, I have lived inthe not that and now in the that.
And so I appreciate you andyour, your view and your, your heart
about that.
What haven't I talked to you about?
What haven't I asked you thatyou think would be good for people
to.
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About this voice, this clarioncall for ethical and truthful business
or about the stuff that youdo, or about the evolution of AI
or about your book that youthink would be fun for people to
know.
Honestly, the biggest thingthat I always ask of people is how
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are we passing it on that, youknow, the, we live in an age of the
absentee parent.
We live in an age where theyoung are more connected to an electronic
device than they are a person.
I mean, we saw that during, wesaw that during COVID when everybody
was sequestered at home andthey weren't allowed to socialize
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and they weren't allowed tohave that human, not only the human
to human interaction, but thehuman touch.
And we're only now starting torealize some of the impacts of that
year of our children's lives.
And I'm gonna, I, I really askpeople to, to look at their kids
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and see who they are, howthey're, how they're growing, how
they're becoming and try andconnect with them.
I mean, I have a, I have a 14year old teenage daughter talk about
the, the, the, the.
The personification of not connecting.
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And, and yet my daughter andI, that's one of the things that
we do, we have a routine wefollow where we connect.
Because I want to make surethat she knows no matter what happens
in life, I'm there for her unconditionally.
And I want to.
I truly want to know what'sgoing on in her life without any
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judgment, without any lessons,without any repercussions, what's
going on so that we can stay connected.
And she knows that she canalways come to me.
That's something that's reallymissing in parents today.
In spades.
Just completely in spades.
We've turned, you know,raising the kids over to the government,
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to schools and sort of washedour hands.
And half the time, parents areso broken, they can't do what's required
anyway because they're so busytaking care of themselves.
But that's a social commentarything, and we'll do that another
day.
Yeah, Mark, that's a wholenother episode.
It is a whole nother episode.
So I thank you for your heart.
I thank you for sharing yourwisdom, your knowledge, your encouragement,
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and your personal choices inbecoming who you are.
So thanks for being here todaywith me.
Thank you, Kellen.
I really appreciate it.
You guys.
I want you to take time tolisten to this again.
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of difficult times and madethe choices that you right now can
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