April 1, 2025 • 42 mins
Have you ever asked yourself:
“Why don’t I fit in?”
Tim Croll asked that question for decades—and now, he’s here to dismantle the lie behind it.
In this raw and real episode of Your Ultimate Life Podcast, Tim and Kellan Fluckiger go deep into what it means to live with purpose, discipline, and spiritual confidence in a world that pressures us to conform.
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🔑 What You’ll Learn in Episode 963:
- Why discipline isn’t punishment—it’s power.
- How spiritual grounding creates emotional resilience.
- Why you’ll never find peace living someone else’s life.
- The truth about loneliness, false narratives, and fitting in.
- Why are nature, journaling and asking for help game-changers?
- How to find your purpose—and why only YOU can live it.
🎧 If you've ever felt out of place, stuck, or like you're the only one going through something hard—this conversation will change how you see yourself.
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- “Please reach out. Even if it’s just to ask a question—connecting gives me fulfillment.”
- “You’re the only one who can live your purpose. Say it out loud.”
- “Don’t believe the lie that you’re alone. You’re not.”
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(00:02):
Welcome to the show.
Tired of the hype about livinga dream.
It's time for truth.
This is the place for tools,power and real talk.
So you can create the life youdream and deserve your ultimate life.
Subscribe, share, create.
(00:24):
You have infinite power.
Welcome to your ultimate life.
And I love the fact that Timis laughing right to start with this
whole time.
We don't need any more prep.
Let's just jump in.
Let's go.
Well, it's the truth becausewhat we were talking about right
before I hit record is really simple.
(00:45):
I am committed with everybreath that I take to help people
live the most joyful andpowerful life they can.
So are you.
Is that true?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We, and we literally said this.
It's.
We have same purposes, butdifferent execution.
And I love, love that becausethere's so much.
(01:05):
When we talk about diversity,and we'll probably just jump into
this, but we'll talk aboutwhen you talk about diversity.
We need diversity in our lives.
We need different people,different personalities, and we execute
all differently.
And that's such amisunderstood treasure and value
that, that our world has kindof taken in a different direction.
But it's, it's definitelysomething that we need.
(01:26):
You know, one of the things Isay to people, one of the things
I love do is help people writebooks and tell their stories and
stuff.
Right.
And people I hear over andover again.
Yeah, but what I'm teaching orwhat I have share in my book, it's
already been said a million times.
And I say, you know what?
It has.
And we need another million.
And we need another millionbecause of what you said right before
(01:48):
we started, which is peoplehear different things, right?
They hear, they need different people.
So what were you saying about that?
About the diversity of voicesand examples?
Yeah.
So let's, let's look at.
There's two things on that thing.
The first one is, as far as Ican tell, the oldest book that I
(02:09):
know of is out of Job.
It's from Scripture, from Bible.
That's the oldest book that Iknow of.
I mean, it dates back a couplethousand years.
Prior to that, I think the,the next oldest one would be the
Pentateuch from the Old Testament.
I think that's the old.
Anyway, the point in this isthe fact that if we start to look
at all of the stories thathave ever been told, we have historically
(02:32):
about 6,000 years of information.
You're not going to add anynew, like, aha, like this is brand
new, like you're not going tocome up with something that's genuinely
brand new.
It's not going to happen.
Maybe in the world of tech,maybe in that area you might come
up with, but at the same time,there's still some kind of a principle
behind it.
What is key is the way that wetell that story.
(02:53):
What is key is the diversityin how we hear things.
So there's differentperspectives, and this is what I
absolutely love, is how manydifferent individuals can tell literally
the same story, and yet itcomes across in so many different
methods and perspectives.
And, and you may hear, let'sjust look at our kids and our parent
and parent, the parent, child relationship.
(03:14):
How many times a parent said,do this, do this, do this, do this.
And then the parent, the childcomes home, he says, you'll never
believe what my teacher toldme today.
And as a parent, you'resitting there like, no, duh, I've
been telling you that for 20 years.
But they heard it from adifferent source and then suddenly
it sunk in and actuallyresonated with them.
And then they were able totake action.
And that's exactly where we'reat, is we want to leave the impact.
(03:35):
We want to help people become better.
I may say something.
One way you're going to say ita different way and people are going
to hear it in different, atmaybe a different time of life.
Somebody once said when, whenthe student is ready, the teacher
will appear.
I love that.
That's true.
And I heard another way ofsaying that.
It's kind of funny.
It said, of course, everythingthat needs to be said has said, but
(04:01):
because no one was listening,it has to be said again.
Yeah, well, sometimes it's,you were listening, but you have
to.
I mean, so if you go intomarketing, they say you don't really
realize a message until it'sbeen heard.
Like seven.
Seven times, I think is whatthe number is.
You got to hear it seven timesbefore it sinks in.
It's the same way with teaching.
I mean, we've got to hear itover and over and over again.
And that repetition of thesame message in different manners,
(04:24):
in different formats gives usthe ability to internalize and then
act upon whatever that message is.
I love that.
And even if you look at, youmentioned sacred literature, the
Bible and there's other sacredbooks as well, the level of repetition
of principles and stories inthe I Ching and the DAO and the Bible
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and all those things, it's staggering.
You could turn it all into a pamphlet.
But the effort is to usedifferent life circumstances, different
centuries, different models,and different examples so that we
can hear it in a way that wewill then live and do something with.
We still have things from2,000 years ago with Socrates and
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Aristotle and Marcus Aurelius,and I mean, we've got writings back
even 2,000 years.
So you're absolutely right.
But these guys are actuallyrepeating some of the same things
that we heard from 4,000 or5,000 years ago.
And that's why I went back, asfar as I know is the job, I think
is the oldest book, as far asI know.
I mean, I could be wrong.
I don't have, you know,scholarly historical lessons on any
(05:30):
of that, but that's just whatI understand.
Well, I love.
And that particular book Ilove because there's lots of interesting
parallels in my own life, but whatever.
So this is good.
And you know, another thingthat's fun.
This episode that we'rerecording right now won't get released
to April 1st, but I had theblessing of talking to Tim last night
on my LA talk radio show.
(05:51):
And those of you that listento this, if you didn't hear that,
you should go back and hear it.
That would have been theepisode on February 18th.
And we talked a lot about thestuff that he does working with Lego
and stuff, but we're gonnatalk about maybe that a little bit,
but some other stuff today.
And he opted to be on bothshows because you are a different
(06:12):
audience than the otherslistening to that and because we're
gonna talk about things in adifferent way now.
I'm gonna ask you a question, Tim.
I intentionally use thisbackground behind me, and I hope
you're watching, not justlistening, but whatever.
It's an empty dojo, a martialarts studio, and I've spent thousands
(06:32):
upon thousands of hours in oneof those places over the decades
as I've worked on martial arts.
If you look at that and whatyou know of martial arts and a dojo
and a place like that, whatdoes that suggest to you about our
ability or about preparationfor life or about acquiring skills
(06:56):
or any of the things that areright up your alley.
Valley, in terms of teaching, I.
I love this question.
I actually have a black beltin karate, so I am very familiar
with dojos.
And you didn't know thatbefore, so.
I didn't keep going.
Yeah.
So there's an interestingthing that I have learned through
this, and it is based in andaround the word discipline.
(07:18):
In my life.
I grew up in a veryconservative type Baptist background
where the word discipline wasvery negative.
It was very, you will bedisciplined if you act up or if you
act out in a way that'scontrary to the way that we have
stated.
So it was a very negative connotation.
And so pretty much half mylife, maybe more.
(07:39):
Anytime you heard that worddiscipline, you thought you were
getting cracked in the head.
I mean, I'm obviously beingfacetious here, but you felt like
the 2x4 was going to come downand break over top of your head because
you did something wrong andyou were going to be punished for
whatever it is.
Interestingly enough, when weuse the word discipline in the proper
manner in the dojo is a great arena.
The discipline is the honingof a skill to master it.
(08:04):
So if we discipline ourselvesin a manner that allows us to hone
that skill, to become a masterof that skill, it gives us the ability
to be able to walk more confidently.
It gives us the ability tohave that skill to be able to use
for the greater good, forservice to others.
And that discipline does nothave to be a negative connotation.
(08:26):
It doesn't have to be anegative thing like what I grew up
with, it can be a positive thing.
And understanding that we arenow being able to discipline our
life, our.
Our personal, interior, I callit the spiritual, you know, Persona,
if we can discipline that,that allows us to gain mastery over
our emotions, our mentalfortitude, our physical beings, and
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show up in somebody else'slife in a way that can impact them
and help them become a better person.
I love that.
And, you know, it was justintuition to use this background.
And I had no idea that you haddone martial arts.
I mean, I had a situation.
Can I share a story about thatreal quick?
Do we have time?
You do.
Tell me a story.
(09:11):
So I.
I had a situation one timewhere I cut my foot pretty bad.
And I.
So we were going to the dojo,and he had a white mat, a white canvas
mat.
And so I cut my foot prettybad, and I had stitches and all kinds
of stuff, but I still went.
I still went and did the disciplines.
I still went and took theclasses, was able to go through.
And I remember my sensei, hewas so afraid that I was going to
(09:35):
get blood on the mat, so hemade me wrap that thing up.
But he allowed me to keepgoing, allowed me to keep practicing.
But he was scared to death.
The point is, is don't letthings stop you.
I mean, like, if you know andyou've got a purpose, even a cut
or something else, you canfind ways around that.
And it was just something thatI learned.
I was just A kid.
But I mean, like, I got to do this.
I got to be committed, I gotto get it done.
And I had a goal, and I was.
(09:56):
There's a lot of othermotivation behind why I wanted to
have the lessons, but even acut foot wouldn't stop me from getting
that that next day lesson orgetting the next level of the blacks
or blues or wherever I was at.
So I want to go down that roadfor a minute because the commitment
to growth is what underpins my work.
(10:17):
Underpins your work with Legoleadership and all that.
It is a commitment to growthand your example as a youngster,
deciding that it was moreimportant to honor that commitment
than to take what could havebeen an obvious and easy respite
for a week or two or threewhile your foot healed.
It is a choice that we make.
(10:40):
And the fact that you had towrap the foot is irrelevant.
It was the requirement inorder to continue.
And you were saying, yeah,I'll do whatever.
I have to wrap the foot, standon my head, whatever.
Because you made a choice to continue.
And then you made a commentearlier about the spiritual discipline.
I want you to talk for aminute about the choices available
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and powerful to us indisciplining our spirit or our energetic
being.
I think it comes down to amotive more than anything else, and
I'll relate a couple ofdifferent things.
And then I also want toreference this book.
It's out of print now, butit's a book Coming out of the Ice
by Victor Hugo, I think hisname is, and I'd have to look at
(11:22):
it just to make sure.
But coming out of the ice,incredible in depth.
Look at the power that we havewith our minds and with our bodies.
Things that he accomplished.
He sidetrack here real quick.
He was a prisoner in one ofthe concentration camps in Russia,
and they tried to kill him offmultiple times.
One of the times that theytried to kill him off was they said,
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you're going to go out andload this rail car full of logs before
you can come back and eat.
So if you don't, if you makethe decision you don't want to do
it, you sit down and you just die.
That's literally the choice.
You sit down and die, or youfill this rail car full of logs.
Out of 10 people, he is theonly one that filled the rail car
with logs and made it back tothe camp.
(12:05):
The only one.
Nine other people made achoice to die on that rail car.
And it's interesting becausethat shows, and there's a lot of
Other things shows the powerthat we have within our minds when
we make a commitment, whenwe're motivated and there's hope.
So switching back into thiswhole aspect of the karate.
The reason I wanted karate,because I had zero confidence as
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a kid.
I was one that everybodypicked on.
I was always so the biggest.
So there was two, two thingsthat were going on in my junior high.
I was awkward, I was theyoungest, but I was also the biggest
kid in the class.
And so people constantlypicked on me and a lot of different
things.
And I got in a fight one dayand I didn't know how to fight, I
didn't know how to hold my own.
And so situation came around.
(12:47):
The guy came around the schoolbus and literally clocked me, blindsided
me.
And I just was like ravinglunatic in the fight.
I mean, swinging my arms,kicking everything.
I didn't know what to do.
I had no control overeverything, started taking those
lessons and my motive wasconfidence and I wanted to be able
to hold my own.
And I recall later, after Ihad gotten through many, many different
(13:08):
lessons, I had anothersituation where a guy came around
and clocked me again, samesituation in a school, in high school
that time.
And I remember being so coolheaded because I had the confidence
that I had gotten through the discipline.
So you talk about choices.
One is the fact, the reasonwhy I made that choice is because
I had a deeper motivation.
I wanted confidence, I wantednot to be kicked around.
(13:30):
I didn't want to have the lifethat I had at that point.
And then the result of it,which I didn't expect, was this increase
in confidence.
The interesting thing isbecause of my confidence, I was able
to back down the bully withouteven getting into a fight.
So I had all of this training.
I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go.
I'm actually ready to get inthis fight because he's coming at
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me and I'm going to defendmyself and I'm ready.
And then because he saw howmuch confidence I had, he backed
off.
And I was just like that.
That revelation to me wasjust, especially as a kid, I'm like,
oh, so in other words, if Iact in confidence and if I, I believe
the things that I've beentraining myself to do in that discipline,
people are going to responddifferent to, differently to me.
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And so I know I'm kind ofrabbit trailing back and forth, but
the main point is what youasked about this fact of why is discipline
so important and how does thatactually focus our, our direction
and the choices that we make.
One is making sure that we'vegot the motive.
Two is when we do the dailytasks or we do the actions, and maybe
they're on daily, maybethey're weekly, maybe they're monthly.
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We gain confidence in who we are.
And through that confidence,it gives us the ability to act within
our strength, within ourskills, within our personality, because
we're confident as that individual.
And without that confidence, Ireally, truly don't believe that
you can build that ultimate life.
I don't believe that you canactually get into what it is that
you need to in order to be able.
(14:53):
You have to go through thattraining, make the choices to show
up through the hard, throughthe rain, through the storms, through
the trauma, through whateverit is, show up and purpose that you're
going to learn something andgrow through it and discipline yourself
to get through it.
Because that's what gives youthe confidence when something else
bigger comes down the line.
I love that.
(15:13):
And that's not a rabbit trailat all, because the creation, I'm
using that word on purpose.
The creation of your life,ultimate or sucky, is a creation.
And what you're saying is ifyou have the discipline to have a
purpose and a goal and youmake those choices, you can create
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whatever you want to.
And it is by following those disciplines.
And so that's very relevant.
And the story's fun.
So a delightful story that youdid that.
I have never told that storyon any podcast.
This is the first time I'veever told that story.
So delightful, delightful.
Well, I share.
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I spent many, many, many yearsin it.
And I ran a dojo for a little while.
And the interesting thingabout confidence is when I took my
second degree black belt testin one particular discipline, and
I have it in a couple, you hadto do a breaking a set of braking
things.
And I had eight brakingstations and it was all choreographed.
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And you had about six or sevenseconds to get through all eight
stations.
And the last one was fivecinder block tops, five of those,
two inch cinder block, five ofthose to break.
And, you know, I thought aboutit later and it's funny because of
all the pictures that someonetook, that was the only one that
came out.
And one of the people who wasthe owners of the dojo, her face
(16:39):
was caught in the mirror rightat the moment of impact and she was
like this.
And it looked like thishorrifying thought of, you know,
this is either going to workor every bone between the wrist and
the shoulder is going to be destroyed.
Right.
And so that's Funny.
Anyway, I love that.
So thank you for sharing all that.
(16:59):
So, as you've learned thosedisciplines and you've now applied
them to the confidence that ittakes to create, I want to take a
little dive into the spirit,our spiritual realm, if you're willing,
a little bit.
Absolutely.
Several references to it.
So talk about why spiritualconfidence is important to develop
(17:24):
and nothing's off limits.
You're free to discuss it inany way you'd like to, but we have
the physical things where welearn a skill and we make money and
we do the outward things.
My belief, my certainty,because of my experience, is that
the inward is more importantin the foundation.
So talk about developingconfidence and discipline there.
(17:45):
Yeah.
I think one of the biggestthings is there's a difference.
And I'm going to go into alittle of what the world would consider
taboo because you saidnothing's off limits.
But I think there's asignificant difference between formal
religion and the relationshipthat we have with our Savior.
I am not on the side of formal religion.
(18:05):
I don't go down that roadbecause I feel like it is a fake
practice.
In most cases, it's a ritualthat doesn't hold a whole lot of
meaning, except for the fact.
Okay, check that off the box.
I did it.
It's not a relationship.
And so I.
I kind of shy away from what Iwould consider former religion because
I feel like it's veryinstitutional and it doesn't really
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give us the.
Basically, here's what happensif somebody shows up to church on
Sunday.
They go through all theprocess and everything, and it doesn't
impact their life.
Right.
So they go the rest of the week.
I agree with you, by the way.
Yeah.
They go the rest of the weekand they just act the way that they
always did.
And then they come back toSunday and then they act something
like different.
And I like.
So to me, and I mentioned thison your.
On the radio show, I have fourvalues, and one of the very first
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one is authenticity.
And when we talk aboutauthenticity, if I'm going to go
show up at church on Sundayand act in a manner that is contrary
to the way that I act the restof the week, that's not for me.
That's not the way I want to go.
However, I deeply believe thatwe must have a relationship with
Jesus Christ.
That is a core element.
So it starts with thatfoundational component, and that's
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where all of the spiritualaspect begins.
For me.
In that spiritual side, thereis two elements.
It's our internal rightThere's a life that lives internally,
which is what you were mentioning.
And I truly believe in thatinternal side of things.
There is this aspect of.
I guess you could call it theseat of our emotion.
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They used to call it thestomach or the gut.
Sometimes now, especially inour modern language, we talk about
our heart and how our heart feels.
Our heart is broken.
We use a lot of those kinds ofterms, but that is the seat of our
emotions.
If we don't get in touch andunderstand that internal spiritual
side and be able to be intouch with our emotions, then we
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have no idea how to be able toreact with the rest of the world.
Because especially when wetalk about emotional intelligence
and iq.
I mean, we could talk about spiritual.
I kind of mesh those things together.
First of all, it starts withthat relationship with.
With Jesus Christ, who is thesuperior in my life.
And that's the being, that'sthe foundation, the morality upon
which I based everything.
Then the second step of thatis the emotional side of things.
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And I look at how am Imanaging my emotions?
Am I allowing them to run away?
An interesting thing in thispart of it, a little cue.
Somebody just introduced me tothis idea a couple of weeks, or maybe
it was a month, a couplemonths ago.
A little cue to know if we'vegot our emotions in check is the
difference in the gap of areaction and what I mean by that.
(20:31):
He shared this with me.
So there was a situation wherethere was a justifiable reaction.
It was justifiable to be angryabout a situation, but it wasn't
a justifiable reaction.
So in other words, here's asituation is somebody does something
and it irks you, so you getfrustrated, you get a little bit
angry.
But are you overreacting whereyou're actually going to an extreme
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of yelling and arguing and.
And going off the edge of this reaction.
And that gap between whathappened and the reaction that you
actually had shows that you'renot in control or in touch or understand
even your internal emotions.
So that.
That should raise a question.
That's like a red flag.
It's like, hey, what's goingon there?
What's happening?
And that's something that youhave to deal with.
That's a whole nother conversation.
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But that is going back to thiswhole component of the spiritual
side of things is you have tovery quickly take the time.
I don't want to say quickly.
You have to take the time,whatever time is necessary to analyze
what the heck is going on internally.
Because sometimes those arethe hardest Conversations that we
have, they're the mostawkward, they're the most difficult
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because we as a society havesped our lives up.
We feast on adrenaline.
We feast on all of the stuffthat's going on, whether it's a news
channel, and I don't care whatnews channel you listen to or a social
media, you're feasting on it.
And you have a constantbarrage of sound input, emotions.
And we choose not to deal withour own personal.
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So when we're looking at this,we have to be able to take time to
sit down and be quiet andanalyze what the heck is going on
internally, because otherwisewe're going to implode at some point
in time.
And I can tell you from Iworked with about 100,000 affiliates
in a program one time, and allof those affiliates, they all started
making some serious money.
And every one of them, whenthey didn't take the time to understand
(22:20):
themselves, they imploded.
And they imploded throughdrugs, they imploded through DUIs
or they got thrown in jail.
Some of them lost their livesbecause they were doing things.
There was an implosion becausethey weren't taking care of their
own personal internal life andthey weren't growing with the success
that was being surroundedaround them.
I love that.
And I intentionally invitedyou into the spiritual side because,
(22:44):
you know, you mentioned Christas the Savior, regardless of the
name, you give that, thatbeing and that feeling.
And I honor.
And I'm also a Christian.
But to speaking to those thataren't, you know, there is something
above you.
You know, there is power and organization.
You know you came fromsomewhere, you know you're going
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somewhere.
You may call different, butyou know that.
And the spirit is thefoundation of the physical.
The physical follows the spiritual.
And so if you chase thephysical around without, without
having a foundation onspiritual, it will collapse, as in
your example.
And I'm a perfect.
I'm not talking aboutsomething I don't know.
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I lived that.
So I, I totally get that.
And I appreciate your, yourdescription of that and going there.
What do you do?
Like, you're martial artist,you obviously take care of yourself
physically.
I can see that.
What is your spiritual preparation?
Like, how do you do that?
Not every day, whatever you do.
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No, it's a good question.
So I actually go through adifferent process for different things.
And I mentioned this on theradio, but I'm just like, dude, this
is so me.
I am all over the place whenit comes to things.
And I don't like the samething over and over again because
I get bored, frankly, it'sjust my personality and I've now
come to embrace that and Ireally love that.
So there's a lot of things I do.
(24:08):
One of the biggest thingsthough, is I'm a reader.
I have a whole bookshelf fullof books.
And it's not, I know there'sother people that like audio.
They take the time that I wantto physically read a book, and here's
why.
First of all, it slows me down.
Now, I'm a pretty fast reader,and so if I'm listening to something,
sometimes I'll get distracted.
But I want that physical bookto be right in front of me.
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And I literally have four orfive books that are right here.
And I've got processes and asystem that I use for when I read.
But that's the first thing isI need to read.
Now, there's a combination ofdifferent types of reading.
And so one of the things is Ilike to read based on a purpose or
a research.
Why do I, what, what is itthat I'm trying?
I don't want to just read toread for sake.
I, I, I don't do that kind ofa thing.
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I want to what is the purposeof this book and why am I trying
to read this?
Or what am I researching?
And whether that scripture orthrough some other different takes
on what the scripture says ordifferent, there's all kinds of different
ways to do that, but I want toresearch and look into that.
The second part of that,though, is what's again that awkward
conversation that, that what'sgoing on internally?
What do I really think aboutwhat's being said and how can I apply
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that and then take action on that?
So journaling is a huge partof my life.
I've got now, 1, 2, I'mlooking up on my board here.
1, 2, 3, 4.
I've got 5, 4, 4, 4 completed,5 completed journals and I've got
one here that's almostcompleted that I have with me all
the time.
And there's specific thingsthat I write in there.
And whether that's note takingfrom things that I'm hearing or listening
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or books that I'm doing orlike, hey, this was a.
Gratitude is a big, big thingfor me.
These are things that I'mgrateful for.
Or frankly, there's times whenI'm sitting there yelling like, what
the heck is going on?
Like, I don't understand this life.
I'm in the middle of crapright now and I don't get it.
Why is this happening to me?
I don't deserve this.
And I kind of just vocalizethat through my journaling because
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that gives me a way to vent,for lack of a better word.
I just vent through that andit relieves some of that stress.
It allows me to get that outrather than clamming that off.
Do you find that.
Obviously you do.
This is a stupid question,what I was saying.
There's no stupid questions.
We're all good.
I mean, the answer isobviously yes.
You find that this diversityand focusing on this internal conversation
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keeps you grounded andconnected to the spiritual plane?
Absolutely, 100%.
Do you find that grounding andconnecting to the spiritual plane
is a non negotiable essentialto your life?
Absolutely.
And I would add one more thingto that because we talked about kind
of the study and the intake.
There's another piece of thatthat I didn't mention, which is the
disconnect.
We have to disconnect.
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And every year we plan to disconnect.
And sometimes I disconnectwith myself.
In other words, I'm just by myself.
But other times I'll actuallydisconnect and I'll take people that
I really love and trust.
And frankly, in the last fouryears, I think it's been.
It's been with My boys, my twooldest boys, he's 25 and 22, and
we'll actually go on abackpacking trip anywhere between
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three and up to five days.
And on that backpacking trip,you don't have any cell signal.
You don't have anybody elsethat you're counting on.
You don't have.
You pack in all your food, youpack in your tent, you pack in everything
that you're going to need tosurvive for the next five days.
You're packing that in.
And when I'm sayingdisconnect, you're grounding yourself
back to what.
What I call the nature's aspect.
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And there's a very importantkey when we ground ourselves back
to nature, it shows us howsmall we are.
Sometimes, especially in myown life, I tend to get egotistical
and I like to get a big head.
And I think, oh man, look atall this great stuff that I'm doing.
And then I go out in the woodsand I sit there and it's pitch black.
And you see all these millionsof stars up there, or you hear the
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owls calling and all thedifferent things that are going on.
It's amazing how small you feel.
And it shows you truly howthis little bit of my life is.
It's Insignificant, but yet itis significant and I'm honored to
be a part of that.
I'm honored that somebodywould use me because there's so many
other things out there andthere's universe that are just so
much more beyond what Iunderstand and how I can even cope.
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So that grounding with naturegives us that chance to really come
back to a base of humility.
So when you were getting beatup or behind the bus, decided to
go take martial arts.
Yeah, it was a couple minutes ago.
Right.
So you've been on a journeythrough things that led you here.
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And so one of the mostprecious things we can share with
people because when someonelooks at me, 20 books I've written
and all this stuff, or looksat you, the successful leadership
business, they mistakenly getthe feeling that I can't do that
I can't have, that it won'twork for me.
No, no, no, no lucky breaks,whatever excuses we create.
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And the important thing is thesharing of the journey.
The successes, the failures,the questions, you know, the answers,
the circuitous things.
What kind of give me a storyor two.
Oh man.
About you, about your owngrowth, where you uncovered some
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profound things that shaped orare continuing to shape your life.
I would say this the numberone question in my head, and this
has been consistent all theway up through my 20s and, and potentially
sometimes it comes up even nowand I'm in my 50s at this point.
Why don't I fit?
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Why don't I fit with all ofthe people that are doing things
that I feel like are normal orwhat society tells me is normal?
I wrestled, when I saywrestled with that question, I deeply
wrestled with that question.
I would do things like.
And this I remember I wasliterally in fourth grade and I don't
know why I can clearlyremember some of these things, but
I remember I in fourth gradeand, and I'm, I'm innocent looking
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at this and I was like, I saidto a friend, I said, yeah, I just
really, truly enjoy going outin the woods and playing by myself.
And all of these little middleaged kids, they all started giggling
and they all started laughingand I didn't realize.
Now I realized, but then Ididn't realize, like, what are you
laughing at?
They, they had that sexualconnotation to it.
And I was just like, dude, I'mnot, that's not.
And so it made me reallyquestion, am I okay?
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And so because I didn't fitand because of that I actually look
at am I okay?
And the conclusion that I cameto is no, I'm not.
Okay, because I obviouslydon't fit with everybody else.
I'm not their image of what it is.
My sister made perfect gradesand everybody asked, well, why can't
you be more like your sisterand making grades?
But on the flip side of that,if we got locked out of the house,
guess who had to figure outhow to get in the house?
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I did.
I was able to figure thatstuff out.
I was able to come down andlogically go through stuff and I
had to take care of thosekinds of things.
The interesting thing is Istruggled so hard with the fact that
I didn't fit, that I wentabove and beyond and attempting to
fit in.
For a long time I went to theedges of saying, I, how is it or
what is it that I need to doin order to be accepted?
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I use those words kind of inair quotes.
How did I, how did I, what didI have to do in order to be accepted
in the popular society?
And frankly, I never was.
I would just go, now thatjourney has led me.
So I'm going to bring back inthis whole discipline and this structure
and working on yourself.
Because if I'm attempting tolive somebody else's life or something
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else, this other narrativethat they're putting on me, I am
never going to be satisfied.
And I'm constantly going to beempty and I'm going to constantly
be chasing something that'sout there although I don't know what
it is.
And I will never find satisfaction.
I will never find fulfillment.
The only way to findfulfillment is to go back, work on
the disciplines of who I am,understand what my skills and what
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my talents are, how I wasuniquely created and crafted, what
is the personality, what aremy passions, Kind of put that into
a melting pot to be able tocome up with what I would say is
the purpose of my life andthen understand that that purpose,
I am the only one that gets tolive that purpose.
You are the only one that getsto live that purpose.
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Nobody else is going to beable to fulfill that purpose except
you.
And so here I am as a kidlooking at this and saying, okay,
I need to fill so and so'spurpose or this purpose or that purpose.
And I'm finding just completeemptiness and I'm finding frustration
and I'm finding all of theseother challenges that don't make
me who I am.
And it wasn't until I actuallywent on this journey of self discovery
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and be able to say, okay, whatis my purpose?
And then realizing I wasplaced here on Earth for that purpose.
And I'm the only one that getsto be Tim Crowell.
Nobody else does.
So whoever's listening, Iwould say this.
You're the only one.
And I want you to say this out loud.
I'm the only one.
And put your name in.
I'm the only one that gets to be.
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And put your name in there.
Because you have a unique purpose.
You have a specific purposecalling a way to be able to impact
this world that nobody elsecan do.
I am grateful that you said that.
I share, I echo, I agree withthat message and that uniqueness.
Everybody says I'm special,and other people say, yeah, different
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sides of that thing.
But the literal, absolute,eternal, profound truth is you're
divinely created.
You're here for a reason.
You had a purpose that you notonly agreed to, but you were stoked
about before you came.
And you have the gifts andtalents unique to that purpose.
And so, of course, you don'tfit in anybody else's narrative.
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You can't.
And embracing one that truthand then relaxing into the discovery
process instead of franticallypanting your way, trying to force
the discovery process is sorewarding and joyful.
Does that sound right to you?
Absolutely.
I would add one more thing to that.
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Everything was spot on.
And I would add one more thingto that.
This was another area of struggle.
I used to bemoan or begrudgethe experience that I had in life.
Some of the stuff that I hadto do as a child through middle school
or junior high, I used to.
We ended up moving when I wasin ninth grade.
We moved from one side of thestate to the other side of the state,
from East Pennsylvania to WestPennsylvania, uprooted new, new friends,
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knew everything.
Then I went to one school fora year, and then we changed and we
went to another school.
So I literally spent two yearsin the school that I graduated.
Then I went to college and Imoved around.
I have had a lot of experiences.
I used to begrudge thatbecause I'm looking like, well, why
couldn't I have a stability?
Why couldn't I be something normal?
Why couldn't I that Now I lookback and I'm like, man, those experiences
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were unique to me, which givesme a unique way to relate to other
people.
So I would strongly encouragethose that are going through things
and whether it's a move ormaybe it's trauma, maybe it's an
accident, maybe it's, I brokemy leg my junior, My junior year
of high school broke my leg,was unable to play in the basketball
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game, just so you guys know,and most people don't understand
this, but I had a 60 shootingaverage when I was on the court.
It's huge when you're in high school.
Yeah, it's a high, high, highpercentage field goal percentage
rate.
So I had a 60, a huge chanceof scholarships, a lot of other things.
And I broke my leg and lost anentire year, which set me back massively
in that.
And then I went and I got to college.
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And the very first game that Iwas on the court, I jumped up and
I twisted my ankle.
I never played one game ofcollege ball, not one game because
I couldn't play.
And then I just everythingmoved off and I ended up going in
a different direction.
So I look at that and think,oh, man, it's a waste, it's a waste,
it's a waste.
But yet at the same time, itgave me the ability to understand
my human body and the amountthat I could take.
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And when I.
There's a lot of things thatgo into this, and I'm talking kind
of fast because I feel likewe're getting close to our time here.
But you mentally, physically,can do far beyond what you actually
think you can do.
Far beyond.
And that's, again, coming backto this, coming out of the ice.
That book opened my eyesbecause I read it right about the
time I broke my leg.
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You have the ability to dothings that you didn't even know
that you could accomplish.
And if you give yourselfpermission to try and to push and
to break through that, well, Idon't feel like I could.
If you give yourselfpermission, physically, mentally,
spiritually, socially, you cando it far, far more than you believe
you can.
And if I can instill thatbelief on somebody, then I'll say
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this entire thing was worth it.
If we can just instill thatbelief on one person, saying you
can do it, this whole entireconversation is worthwhile.
I second that and agree with that.
And I would say I'm thankfulfor you for saying all that and saying
it so convincingly and powerfully.
Because the things.
It is almost always the toughstuff that we have that shape our
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character and that causes usto blossom and grow.
It's not the successes, it'sthe things that at the moment feel
like terrifying and bad.
And our ability, I mean, beingdivine beings, we have that DNA.
So why is it shocking that wecan create awesomeness?
Why is that a surprise?
It shouldn't be and it can't be.
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That's amazing.
So you're right.
We're about to get toward the end.
What else would you like toshare as teaching, as lesson from
your own experiences, from.
Because I love your passionand the stories and the truth of
your, of your expression.
And truth carries its own power.
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So what didn't I ask you thatyou'd like to share?
The one thing that I can say,and this is what I struggle with,
and this is why I'm sopassionate about my, what I do as
far as the LEGO activities,the LEGO workshops, talking about
narrative live.
The reason why I'm sopassionate about all of those things
is it all hinges on this one key.
I grew up really alone.
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I grew up believing that I wasthe only one going through challenges,
trials, issues.
There are many, many times,and I can go back and recite many
stories where I thought, well,I'm the only one that has to do this.
I'm the only one that can do this.
When I say this, I'm not even kidding.
I literally unloaded an entiretrailer full of household goods,
all the furniture, sofa, everything.
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I did it by myself andrepacked it into a garage because
nobody else would help me, me.
And I mentally just put mymind to it.
So I know from experience thatyou can overcome a lot.
But here's the, here's thething that I want to make sure.
I, I, I express, I did it outof a false belief or a false narrative,
that I was the only one.
If I would have taken the timeto look and ask for help, I didn't
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have to do it alone.
So many people go through thisworld, through this life, believing
that they're the only onesgoing through that because they're
afraid to either ask or theybelieve that everybody else's life
is perfect and that becausethey have problems, they're the only
one.
And so therefore I can't share.
That's so, so much a false narrative.
And I wish I could break that.
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Because if we can get pastthis aspect and be able to be humble
enough to reach out and askfor help, the whole world can change
for you.
The whole world can open upinto this huge thing that you don't
even know is possible.
But if you stay under thatlie, that false narrative that you're
the only one going through,whatever it is that you're going
through, nobody can reallyhelp because you will not break out
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of your own soul.
You won't break out of yourown box.
So that's the one thing thatif I could express more than anything
else, is just know that you'renot alone.
There are people out therethat want and are able to help.
And all you have to do iseither pick up the phone or reach
out via email or just contactsomebody because there's people there
that are desperate and want tobe able to help you because they've
gone through it and they knowexactly how you're feeling.
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Thank you for sharing that.
I 100% agree.
I'm the only one is a common,common, common theme when we do coaching
or when we talk to people.
Oh, I'm not the only one.
Oh, that is so true thatpeople think that and so not true
that you're not alone and sotrue that there is help in people
willing and anxious andexcited and would be delighted for
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the opportunity to share andlift and be with you.
Tim, I want to thank you foryour passion, for your love and for
who you're being in the world,both for yourself, to your clients,
to your boys, and everyonethat is impacted by the truth of
your being.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Thanks for having me.
And this has been incredible.
I mean, I.
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I love hearing from people,yourselves as well as anybody that's
listening.
So please reach out.
I'd love to hear you.
How's the best way to get ahold of you?
The best way is emailtimcroll.com or LinkedIn.
Those are the two easiest way.
I'm on there all the time,except for when I'm disconnected.
I do take those sabbaticals.
Other than that, I'm here, I'mavailable, and I love being able
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Even if it's just to ask me aquestion, man, that's what I love
to do if it gives me so much fulfillment.
I have a statement up heresays how who have I impacted today?
And I live by that.
I just want to leave an impact.
And if somebody asks aquestion, I'm more than willing to
connect with you.
I want to emphasize that Timmeans it when he says that.
I know him.
I know him from severalinterviews and also because over
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Tim talks fast and that's goodbecause there's a lot packed in there
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Welcome to your ultimate life.
And I love the fact that Timis laughing right to start with this
whole time.
We don't need any more prep.
Let's just jump in.
Let's go.
Well, it's the truth becausewhat we were talking about right
before I hit record is really simple.
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I am committed with everybreath that I take to help people
live the most joyful andpowerful life they can.
So are you.
Is that true?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We, and we literally said this.
It's.
We have same purposes, butdifferent execution.
And I love, love that becausethere's so much.
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When we talk about diversity,and we'll probably just jump into
this, but we'll talk aboutwhen you talk about diversity.
We need diversity in our lives.
We need different people,different personalities, and we execute
all differently.
And that's such amisunderstood treasure and value
that, that our world has kindof taken in a different direction.
But it's, it's definitelysomething that we need.
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You know, one of the things Isay to people, one of the things
I love do is help people writebooks and tell their stories and
stuff.
Right.
And people I hear over andover again.
Yeah, but what I'm teaching orwhat I have share in my book, it's
already been said a million times.
And I say, you know what?
It has.
And we need another million.
And we need another millionbecause of what you said right before
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we started, which is peoplehear different things, right?
They hear, they need different people.
So what were you saying about that?
About the diversity of voicesand examples?
Yeah.
So let's, let's look at.
There's two things on that thing.
The first one is, as far as Ican tell, the oldest book that I
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know of is out of Job.
It's from Scripture, from Bible.
That's the oldest book that Iknow of.
I mean, it dates back a couplethousand years.
Prior to that, I think the,the next oldest one would be the
Pentateuch from the Old Testament.
I think that's the old.
Anyway, the point in this isthe fact that if we start to look
at all of the stories thathave ever been told, we have historically
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about 6,000 years of information.
You're not going to add anynew, like, aha, like this is brand
new, like you're not going tocome up with something that's genuinely
brand new.
It's not going to happen.
Maybe in the world of tech,maybe in that area you might come
up with, but at the same time,there's still some kind of a principle
behind it.
What is key is the way that wetell that story.
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What is key is the diversityin how we hear things.
So there's differentperspectives, and this is what I
absolutely love, is how manydifferent individuals can tell literally
the same story, and yet itcomes across in so many different
methods and perspectives.
And, and you may hear, let'sjust look at our kids and our parent
and parent, the parent, child relationship.
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How many times a parent said,do this, do this, do this, do this.
And then the parent, the childcomes home, he says, you'll never
believe what my teacher toldme today.
And as a parent, you'resitting there like, no, duh, I've
been telling you that for 20 years.
But they heard it from adifferent source and then suddenly
it sunk in and actuallyresonated with them.
And then they were able totake action.
And that's exactly where we'reat, is we want to leave the impact.
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We want to help people become better.
I may say something.
One way you're going to say ita different way and people are going
to hear it in different, atmaybe a different time of life.
Somebody once said when, whenthe student is ready, the teacher
will appear.
I love that.
That's true.
And I heard another way ofsaying that.
It's kind of funny.
It said, of course, everythingthat needs to be said has said, but
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because no one was listening,it has to be said again.
Yeah, well, sometimes it's,you were listening, but you have
to.
I mean, so if you go intomarketing, they say you don't really
realize a message until it'sbeen heard.
Like seven.
Seven times, I think is whatthe number is.
You got to hear it seven timesbefore it sinks in.
It's the same way with teaching.
I mean, we've got to hear itover and over and over again.
And that repetition of thesame message in different manners,
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in different formats gives usthe ability to internalize and then
act upon whatever that message is.
I love that.
And even if you look at, youmentioned sacred literature, the
Bible and there's other sacredbooks as well, the level of repetition
of principles and stories inthe I Ching and the DAO and the Bible
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and all those things, it's staggering.
You could turn it all into a pamphlet.
But the effort is to usedifferent life circumstances, different
centuries, different models,and different examples so that we
can hear it in a way that wewill then live and do something with.
We still have things from2,000 years ago with Socrates and
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Aristotle and Marcus Aurelius,and I mean, we've got writings back
even 2,000 years.
So you're absolutely right.
But these guys are actuallyrepeating some of the same things
that we heard from 4,000 or5,000 years ago.
And that's why I went back, asfar as I know is the job, I think
is the oldest book, as far asI know.
I mean, I could be wrong.
I don't have, you know,scholarly historical lessons on any
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of that, but that's just whatI understand.
Well, I love.
And that particular book Ilove because there's lots of interesting
parallels in my own life, but whatever.
So this is good.
And you know, another thingthat's fun.
This episode that we'rerecording right now won't get released
to April 1st, but I had theblessing of talking to Tim last night
on my LA talk radio show.
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And those of you that listento this, if you didn't hear that,
you should go back and hear it.
That would have been theepisode on February 18th.
And we talked a lot about thestuff that he does working with Lego
and stuff, but we're gonnatalk about maybe that a little bit,
but some other stuff today.
And he opted to be on bothshows because you are a different
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audience than the otherslistening to that and because we're
gonna talk about things in adifferent way now.
I'm gonna ask you a question, Tim.
I intentionally use thisbackground behind me, and I hope
you're watching, not justlistening, but whatever.
It's an empty dojo, a martialarts studio, and I've spent thousands
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upon thousands of hours in oneof those places over the decades
as I've worked on martial arts.
If you look at that and whatyou know of martial arts and a dojo
and a place like that, whatdoes that suggest to you about our
ability or about preparationfor life or about acquiring skills
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or any of the things that areright up your alley.
Valley, in terms of teaching, I.
I love this question.
I actually have a black beltin karate, so I am very familiar
with dojos.
And you didn't know thatbefore, so.
I didn't keep going.
Yeah.
So there's an interestingthing that I have learned through
this, and it is based in andaround the word discipline.
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In my life.
I grew up in a veryconservative type Baptist background
where the word discipline wasvery negative.
It was very, you will bedisciplined if you act up or if you
act out in a way that'scontrary to the way that we have
stated.
So it was a very negative connotation.
And so pretty much half mylife, maybe more.
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Anytime you heard that worddiscipline, you thought you were
getting cracked in the head.
I mean, I'm obviously beingfacetious here, but you felt like
the 2x4 was going to come downand break over top of your head because
you did something wrong andyou were going to be punished for
whatever it is.
Interestingly enough, when weuse the word discipline in the proper
manner in the dojo is a great arena.
The discipline is the honingof a skill to master it.
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So if we discipline ourselvesin a manner that allows us to hone
that skill, to become a masterof that skill, it gives us the ability
to be able to walk more confidently.
It gives us the ability tohave that skill to be able to use
for the greater good, forservice to others.
And that discipline does nothave to be a negative connotation.
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It doesn't have to be anegative thing like what I grew up
with, it can be a positive thing.
And understanding that we arenow being able to discipline our
life, our.
Our personal, interior, I callit the spiritual, you know, Persona,
if we can discipline that,that allows us to gain mastery over
our emotions, our mentalfortitude, our physical beings, and
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show up in somebody else'slife in a way that can impact them
and help them become a better person.
I love that.
And, you know, it was justintuition to use this background.
And I had no idea that you haddone martial arts.
I mean, I had a situation.
Can I share a story about thatreal quick?
Do we have time?
You do.
Tell me a story.
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So I.
I had a situation one timewhere I cut my foot pretty bad.
And I.
So we were going to the dojo,and he had a white mat, a white canvas
mat.
And so I cut my foot prettybad, and I had stitches and all kinds
of stuff, but I still went.
I still went and did the disciplines.
I still went and took theclasses, was able to go through.
And I remember my sensei, hewas so afraid that I was going to
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get blood on the mat, so hemade me wrap that thing up.
But he allowed me to keepgoing, allowed me to keep practicing.
But he was scared to death.
The point is, is don't letthings stop you.
I mean, like, if you know andyou've got a purpose, even a cut
or something else, you canfind ways around that.
And it was just something thatI learned.
I was just A kid.
But I mean, like, I got to do this.
I got to be committed, I gotto get it done.
And I had a goal, and I was.
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There's a lot of othermotivation behind why I wanted to
have the lessons, but even acut foot wouldn't stop me from getting
that that next day lesson orgetting the next level of the blacks
or blues or wherever I was at.
So I want to go down that roadfor a minute because the commitment
to growth is what underpins my work.
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Underpins your work with Legoleadership and all that.
It is a commitment to growthand your example as a youngster,
deciding that it was moreimportant to honor that commitment
than to take what could havebeen an obvious and easy respite
for a week or two or threewhile your foot healed.
It is a choice that we make.
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And the fact that you had towrap the foot is irrelevant.
It was the requirement inorder to continue.
And you were saying, yeah,I'll do whatever.
I have to wrap the foot, standon my head, whatever.
Because you made a choice to continue.
And then you made a commentearlier about the spiritual discipline.
I want you to talk for aminute about the choices available
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and powerful to us indisciplining our spirit or our energetic
being.
I think it comes down to amotive more than anything else, and
I'll relate a couple ofdifferent things.
And then I also want toreference this book.
It's out of print now, butit's a book Coming out of the Ice
by Victor Hugo, I think hisname is, and I'd have to look at
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it just to make sure.
But coming out of the ice,incredible in depth.
Look at the power that we havewith our minds and with our bodies.
Things that he accomplished.
He sidetrack here real quick.
He was a prisoner in one ofthe concentration camps in Russia,
and they tried to kill him offmultiple times.
One of the times that theytried to kill him off was they said,
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you're going to go out andload this rail car full of logs before
you can come back and eat.
So if you don't, if you makethe decision you don't want to do
it, you sit down and you just die.
That's literally the choice.
You sit down and die, or youfill this rail car full of logs.
Out of 10 people, he is theonly one that filled the rail car
with logs and made it back tothe camp.
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The only one.
Nine other people made achoice to die on that rail car.
And it's interesting becausethat shows, and there's a lot of
Other things shows the powerthat we have within our minds when
we make a commitment, whenwe're motivated and there's hope.
So switching back into thiswhole aspect of the karate.
The reason I wanted karate,because I had zero confidence as
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a kid.
I was one that everybodypicked on.
I was always so the biggest.
So there was two, two thingsthat were going on in my junior high.
I was awkward, I was theyoungest, but I was also the biggest
kid in the class.
And so people constantlypicked on me and a lot of different
things.
And I got in a fight one dayand I didn't know how to fight, I
didn't know how to hold my own.
And so situation came around.
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The guy came around the schoolbus and literally clocked me, blindsided
me.
And I just was like ravinglunatic in the fight.
I mean, swinging my arms,kicking everything.
I didn't know what to do.
I had no control overeverything, started taking those
lessons and my motive wasconfidence and I wanted to be able
to hold my own.
And I recall later, after Ihad gotten through many, many different
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lessons, I had anothersituation where a guy came around
and clocked me again, samesituation in a school, in high school
that time.
And I remember being so coolheaded because I had the confidence
that I had gotten through the discipline.
So you talk about choices.
One is the fact, the reasonwhy I made that choice is because
I had a deeper motivation.
I wanted confidence, I wantednot to be kicked around.
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I didn't want to have the lifethat I had at that point.
And then the result of it,which I didn't expect, was this increase
in confidence.
The interesting thing isbecause of my confidence, I was able
to back down the bully withouteven getting into a fight.
So I had all of this training.
I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go.
I'm actually ready to get inthis fight because he's coming at
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me and I'm going to defendmyself and I'm ready.
And then because he saw howmuch confidence I had, he backed
off.
And I was just like that.
That revelation to me wasjust, especially as a kid, I'm like,
oh, so in other words, if Iact in confidence and if I, I believe
the things that I've beentraining myself to do in that discipline,
people are going to responddifferent to, differently to me.
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And so I know I'm kind ofrabbit trailing back and forth, but
the main point is what youasked about this fact of why is discipline
so important and how does thatactually focus our, our direction
and the choices that we make.
One is making sure that we'vegot the motive.
Two is when we do the dailytasks or we do the actions, and maybe
they're on daily, maybethey're weekly, maybe they're monthly.
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We gain confidence in who we are.
And through that confidence,it gives us the ability to act within
our strength, within ourskills, within our personality, because
we're confident as that individual.
And without that confidence, Ireally, truly don't believe that
you can build that ultimate life.
I don't believe that you canactually get into what it is that
you need to in order to be able.
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You have to go through thattraining, make the choices to show
up through the hard, throughthe rain, through the storms, through
the trauma, through whateverit is, show up and purpose that you're
going to learn something andgrow through it and discipline yourself
to get through it.
Because that's what gives youthe confidence when something else
bigger comes down the line.
I love that.
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And that's not a rabbit trailat all, because the creation, I'm
using that word on purpose.
The creation of your life,ultimate or sucky, is a creation.
And what you're saying is ifyou have the discipline to have a
purpose and a goal and youmake those choices, you can create
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whatever you want to.
And it is by following those disciplines.
And so that's very relevant.
And the story's fun.
So a delightful story that youdid that.
I have never told that storyon any podcast.
This is the first time I'veever told that story.
So delightful, delightful.
Well, I share.
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I spent many, many, many yearsin it.
And I ran a dojo for a little while.
And the interesting thingabout confidence is when I took my
second degree black belt testin one particular discipline, and
I have it in a couple, you hadto do a breaking a set of braking
things.
And I had eight brakingstations and it was all choreographed.
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And you had about six or sevenseconds to get through all eight
stations.
And the last one was fivecinder block tops, five of those,
two inch cinder block, five ofthose to break.
And, you know, I thought aboutit later and it's funny because of
all the pictures that someonetook, that was the only one that
came out.
And one of the people who wasthe owners of the dojo, her face
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was caught in the mirror rightat the moment of impact and she was
like this.
And it looked like thishorrifying thought of, you know,
this is either going to workor every bone between the wrist and
the shoulder is going to be destroyed.
Right.
And so that's Funny.
Anyway, I love that.
So thank you for sharing all that.
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So, as you've learned thosedisciplines and you've now applied
them to the confidence that ittakes to create, I want to take a
little dive into the spirit,our spiritual realm, if you're willing,
a little bit.
Absolutely.
Several references to it.
So talk about why spiritualconfidence is important to develop
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and nothing's off limits.
You're free to discuss it inany way you'd like to, but we have
the physical things where welearn a skill and we make money and
we do the outward things.
My belief, my certainty,because of my experience, is that
the inward is more importantin the foundation.
So talk about developingconfidence and discipline there.
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Yeah.
I think one of the biggestthings is there's a difference.
And I'm going to go into alittle of what the world would consider
taboo because you saidnothing's off limits.
But I think there's asignificant difference between formal
religion and the relationshipthat we have with our Savior.
I am not on the side of formal religion.
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I don't go down that roadbecause I feel like it is a fake
practice.
In most cases, it's a ritualthat doesn't hold a whole lot of
meaning, except for the fact.
Okay, check that off the box.
I did it.
It's not a relationship.
And so I.
I kind of shy away from what Iwould consider former religion because
I feel like it's veryinstitutional and it doesn't really
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give us the.
Basically, here's what happensif somebody shows up to church on
Sunday.
They go through all theprocess and everything, and it doesn't
impact their life.
Right.
So they go the rest of the week.
I agree with you, by the way.
Yeah.
They go the rest of the weekand they just act the way that they
always did.
And then they come back toSunday and then they act something
like different.
And I like.
So to me, and I mentioned thison your.
On the radio show, I have fourvalues, and one of the very first
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one is authenticity.
And when we talk aboutauthenticity, if I'm going to go
show up at church on Sundayand act in a manner that is contrary
to the way that I act the restof the week, that's not for me.
That's not the way I want to go.
However, I deeply believe thatwe must have a relationship with
Jesus Christ.
That is a core element.
So it starts with thatfoundational component, and that's
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where all of the spiritualaspect begins.
For me.
In that spiritual side, thereis two elements.
It's our internal rightThere's a life that lives internally,
which is what you were mentioning.
And I truly believe in thatinternal side of things.
There is this aspect of.
I guess you could call it theseat of our emotion.
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They used to call it thestomach or the gut.
Sometimes now, especially inour modern language, we talk about
our heart and how our heart feels.
Our heart is broken.
We use a lot of those kinds ofterms, but that is the seat of our
emotions.
If we don't get in touch andunderstand that internal spiritual
side and be able to be intouch with our emotions, then we
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have no idea how to be able toreact with the rest of the world.
Because especially when wetalk about emotional intelligence
and iq.
I mean, we could talk about spiritual.
I kind of mesh those things together.
First of all, it starts withthat relationship with.
With Jesus Christ, who is thesuperior in my life.
And that's the being, that'sthe foundation, the morality upon
which I based everything.
Then the second step of thatis the emotional side of things.
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And I look at how am Imanaging my emotions?
Am I allowing them to run away?
An interesting thing in thispart of it, a little cue.
Somebody just introduced me tothis idea a couple of weeks, or maybe
it was a month, a couplemonths ago.
A little cue to know if we'vegot our emotions in check is the
difference in the gap of areaction and what I mean by that.
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He shared this with me.
So there was a situation wherethere was a justifiable reaction.
It was justifiable to be angryabout a situation, but it wasn't
a justifiable reaction.
So in other words, here's asituation is somebody does something
and it irks you, so you getfrustrated, you get a little bit
angry.
But are you overreacting whereyou're actually going to an extreme
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of yelling and arguing and.
And going off the edge of this reaction.
And that gap between whathappened and the reaction that you
actually had shows that you'renot in control or in touch or understand
even your internal emotions.
So that.
That should raise a question.
That's like a red flag.
It's like, hey, what's goingon there?
What's happening?
And that's something that youhave to deal with.
That's a whole nother conversation.
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But that is going back to thiswhole component of the spiritual
side of things is you have tovery quickly take the time.
I don't want to say quickly.
You have to take the time,whatever time is necessary to analyze
what the heck is going on internally.
Because sometimes those arethe hardest Conversations that we
have, they're the mostawkward, they're the most difficult
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because we as a society havesped our lives up.
We feast on adrenaline.
We feast on all of the stuffthat's going on, whether it's a news
channel, and I don't care whatnews channel you listen to or a social
media, you're feasting on it.
And you have a constantbarrage of sound input, emotions.
And we choose not to deal withour own personal.
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So when we're looking at this,we have to be able to take time to
sit down and be quiet andanalyze what the heck is going on
internally, because otherwisewe're going to implode at some point
in time.
And I can tell you from Iworked with about 100,000 affiliates
in a program one time, and allof those affiliates, they all started
making some serious money.
And every one of them, whenthey didn't take the time to understand
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themselves, they imploded.
And they imploded throughdrugs, they imploded through DUIs
or they got thrown in jail.
Some of them lost their livesbecause they were doing things.
There was an implosion becausethey weren't taking care of their
own personal internal life andthey weren't growing with the success
that was being surroundedaround them.
I love that.
And I intentionally invitedyou into the spiritual side because,
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you know, you mentioned Christas the Savior, regardless of the
name, you give that, thatbeing and that feeling.
And I honor.
And I'm also a Christian.
But to speaking to those thataren't, you know, there is something
above you.
You know, there is power and organization.
You know you came fromsomewhere, you know you're going
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somewhere.
You may call different, butyou know that.
And the spirit is thefoundation of the physical.
The physical follows the spiritual.
And so if you chase thephysical around without, without
having a foundation onspiritual, it will collapse, as in
your example.
And I'm a perfect.
I'm not talking aboutsomething I don't know.
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I lived that.
So I, I totally get that.
And I appreciate your, yourdescription of that and going there.
What do you do?
Like, you're martial artist,you obviously take care of yourself
physically.
I can see that.
What is your spiritual preparation?
Like, how do you do that?
Not every day, whatever you do.
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No, it's a good question.
So I actually go through adifferent process for different things.
And I mentioned this on theradio, but I'm just like, dude, this
is so me.
I am all over the place whenit comes to things.
And I don't like the samething over and over again because
I get bored, frankly, it'sjust my personality and I've now
come to embrace that and Ireally love that.
So there's a lot of things I do.
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One of the biggest thingsthough, is I'm a reader.
I have a whole bookshelf fullof books.
And it's not, I know there'sother people that like audio.
They take the time that I wantto physically read a book, and here's
why.
First of all, it slows me down.
Now, I'm a pretty fast reader,and so if I'm listening to something,
sometimes I'll get distracted.
But I want that physical bookto be right in front of me.
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And I literally have four orfive books that are right here.
And I've got processes and asystem that I use for when I read.
But that's the first thing isI need to read.
Now, there's a combination ofdifferent types of reading.
And so one of the things is Ilike to read based on a purpose or
a research.
Why do I, what, what is itthat I'm trying?
I don't want to just read toread for sake.
I, I, I don't do that kind ofa thing.
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I want to what is the purposeof this book and why am I trying
to read this?
Or what am I researching?
And whether that scripture orthrough some other different takes
on what the scripture says ordifferent, there's all kinds of different
ways to do that, but I want toresearch and look into that.
The second part of that,though, is what's again that awkward
conversation that, that what'sgoing on internally?
What do I really think aboutwhat's being said and how can I apply
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that and then take action on that?
So journaling is a huge partof my life.
I've got now, 1, 2, I'mlooking up on my board here.
1, 2, 3, 4.
I've got 5, 4, 4, 4 completed,5 completed journals and I've got
one here that's almostcompleted that I have with me all
the time.
And there's specific thingsthat I write in there.
And whether that's note takingfrom things that I'm hearing or listening
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or books that I'm doing orlike, hey, this was a.
Gratitude is a big, big thingfor me.
These are things that I'mgrateful for.
Or frankly, there's times whenI'm sitting there yelling like, what
the heck is going on?
Like, I don't understand this life.
I'm in the middle of crapright now and I don't get it.
Why is this happening to me?
I don't deserve this.
And I kind of just vocalizethat through my journaling because
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that gives me a way to vent,for lack of a better word.
I just vent through that andit relieves some of that stress.
It allows me to get that outrather than clamming that off.
Do you find that.
Obviously you do.
This is a stupid question,what I was saying.
There's no stupid questions.
We're all good.
I mean, the answer isobviously yes.
You find that this diversityand focusing on this internal conversation
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keeps you grounded andconnected to the spiritual plane?
Absolutely, 100%.
Do you find that grounding andconnecting to the spiritual plane
is a non negotiable essentialto your life?
Absolutely.
And I would add one more thingto that because we talked about kind
of the study and the intake.
There's another piece of thatthat I didn't mention, which is the
disconnect.
We have to disconnect.
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And every year we plan to disconnect.
And sometimes I disconnectwith myself.
In other words, I'm just by myself.
But other times I'll actuallydisconnect and I'll take people that
I really love and trust.
And frankly, in the last fouryears, I think it's been.
It's been with My boys, my twooldest boys, he's 25 and 22, and
we'll actually go on abackpacking trip anywhere between
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three and up to five days.
And on that backpacking trip,you don't have any cell signal.
You don't have anybody elsethat you're counting on.
You don't have.
You pack in all your food, youpack in your tent, you pack in everything
that you're going to need tosurvive for the next five days.
You're packing that in.
And when I'm sayingdisconnect, you're grounding yourself
back to what.
What I call the nature's aspect.
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And there's a very importantkey when we ground ourselves back
to nature, it shows us howsmall we are.
Sometimes, especially in myown life, I tend to get egotistical
and I like to get a big head.
And I think, oh man, look atall this great stuff that I'm doing.
And then I go out in the woodsand I sit there and it's pitch black.
And you see all these millionsof stars up there, or you hear the
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owls calling and all thedifferent things that are going on.
It's amazing how small you feel.
And it shows you truly howthis little bit of my life is.
It's Insignificant, but yet itis significant and I'm honored to
be a part of that.
I'm honored that somebodywould use me because there's so many
other things out there andthere's universe that are just so
much more beyond what Iunderstand and how I can even cope.
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So that grounding with naturegives us that chance to really come
back to a base of humility.
So when you were getting beatup or behind the bus, decided to
go take martial arts.
Yeah, it was a couple minutes ago.
Right.
So you've been on a journeythrough things that led you here.
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And so one of the mostprecious things we can share with
people because when someonelooks at me, 20 books I've written
and all this stuff, or looksat you, the successful leadership
business, they mistakenly getthe feeling that I can't do that
I can't have, that it won'twork for me.
No, no, no, no lucky breaks,whatever excuses we create.
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And the important thing is thesharing of the journey.
The successes, the failures,the questions, you know, the answers,
the circuitous things.
What kind of give me a storyor two.
Oh man.
About you, about your owngrowth, where you uncovered some
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profound things that shaped orare continuing to shape your life.
I would say this the numberone question in my head, and this
has been consistent all theway up through my 20s and, and potentially
sometimes it comes up even nowand I'm in my 50s at this point.
Why don't I fit?
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Why don't I fit with all ofthe people that are doing things
that I feel like are normal orwhat society tells me is normal?
I wrestled, when I saywrestled with that question, I deeply
wrestled with that question.
I would do things like.
And this I remember I wasliterally in fourth grade and I don't
know why I can clearlyremember some of these things, but
I remember I in fourth gradeand, and I'm, I'm innocent looking
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at this and I was like, I saidto a friend, I said, yeah, I just
really, truly enjoy going outin the woods and playing by myself.
And all of these little middleaged kids, they all started giggling
and they all started laughingand I didn't realize.
Now I realized, but then Ididn't realize, like, what are you
laughing at?
They, they had that sexualconnotation to it.
And I was just like, dude, I'mnot, that's not.
And so it made me reallyquestion, am I okay?
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And so because I didn't fitand because of that I actually look
at am I okay?
And the conclusion that I cameto is no, I'm not.
Okay, because I obviouslydon't fit with everybody else.
I'm not their image of what it is.
My sister made perfect gradesand everybody asked, well, why can't
you be more like your sisterand making grades?
But on the flip side of that,if we got locked out of the house,
guess who had to figure outhow to get in the house?
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I did.
I was able to figure thatstuff out.
I was able to come down andlogically go through stuff and I
had to take care of thosekinds of things.
The interesting thing is Istruggled so hard with the fact that
I didn't fit, that I wentabove and beyond and attempting to
fit in.
For a long time I went to theedges of saying, I, how is it or
what is it that I need to doin order to be accepted?
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I use those words kind of inair quotes.
How did I, how did I, what didI have to do in order to be accepted
in the popular society?
And frankly, I never was.
I would just go, now thatjourney has led me.
So I'm going to bring back inthis whole discipline and this structure
and working on yourself.
Because if I'm attempting tolive somebody else's life or something
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else, this other narrativethat they're putting on me, I am
never going to be satisfied.
And I'm constantly going to beempty and I'm going to constantly
be chasing something that'sout there although I don't know what
it is.
And I will never find satisfaction.
I will never find fulfillment.
The only way to findfulfillment is to go back, work on
the disciplines of who I am,understand what my skills and what
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my talents are, how I wasuniquely created and crafted, what
is the personality, what aremy passions, Kind of put that into
a melting pot to be able tocome up with what I would say is
the purpose of my life andthen understand that that purpose,
I am the only one that gets tolive that purpose.
You are the only one that getsto live that purpose.
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Nobody else is going to beable to fulfill that purpose except
you.
And so here I am as a kidlooking at this and saying, okay,
I need to fill so and so'spurpose or this purpose or that purpose.
And I'm finding just completeemptiness and I'm finding frustration
and I'm finding all of theseother challenges that don't make
me who I am.
And it wasn't until I actuallywent on this journey of self discovery
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and be able to say, okay, whatis my purpose?
And then realizing I wasplaced here on Earth for that purpose.
And I'm the only one that getsto be Tim Crowell.
Nobody else does.
So whoever's listening, Iwould say this.
You're the only one.
And I want you to say this out loud.
I'm the only one.
And put your name in.
I'm the only one that gets to be.
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And put your name in there.
Because you have a unique purpose.
You have a specific purposecalling a way to be able to impact
this world that nobody elsecan do.
I am grateful that you said that.
I share, I echo, I agree withthat message and that uniqueness.
Everybody says I'm special,and other people say, yeah, different
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sides of that thing.
But the literal, absolute,eternal, profound truth is you're
divinely created.
You're here for a reason.
You had a purpose that you notonly agreed to, but you were stoked
about before you came.
And you have the gifts andtalents unique to that purpose.
And so, of course, you don'tfit in anybody else's narrative.
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You can't.
And embracing one that truthand then relaxing into the discovery
process instead of franticallypanting your way, trying to force
the discovery process is sorewarding and joyful.
Does that sound right to you?
Absolutely.
I would add one more thing to that.
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Everything was spot on.
And I would add one more thingto that.
This was another area of struggle.
I used to bemoan or begrudgethe experience that I had in life.
Some of the stuff that I hadto do as a child through middle school
or junior high, I used to.
We ended up moving when I wasin ninth grade.
We moved from one side of thestate to the other side of the state,
from East Pennsylvania to WestPennsylvania, uprooted new, new friends,
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knew everything.
Then I went to one school fora year, and then we changed and we
went to another school.
So I literally spent two yearsin the school that I graduated.
Then I went to college and Imoved around.
I have had a lot of experiences.
I used to begrudge thatbecause I'm looking like, well, why
couldn't I have a stability?
Why couldn't I be something normal?
Why couldn't I that Now I lookback and I'm like, man, those experiences
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were unique to me, which givesme a unique way to relate to other
people.
So I would strongly encouragethose that are going through things
and whether it's a move ormaybe it's trauma, maybe it's an
accident, maybe it's, I brokemy leg my junior, My junior year
of high school broke my leg,was unable to play in the basketball
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game, just so you guys know,and most people don't understand
this, but I had a 60 shootingaverage when I was on the court.
It's huge when you're in high school.
Yeah, it's a high, high, highpercentage field goal percentage
rate.
So I had a 60, a huge chanceof scholarships, a lot of other things.
And I broke my leg and lost anentire year, which set me back massively
in that.
And then I went and I got to college.
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And the very first game that Iwas on the court, I jumped up and
I twisted my ankle.
I never played one game ofcollege ball, not one game because
I couldn't play.
And then I just everythingmoved off and I ended up going in
a different direction.
So I look at that and think,oh, man, it's a waste, it's a waste,
it's a waste.
But yet at the same time, itgave me the ability to understand
my human body and the amountthat I could take.
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And when I.
There's a lot of things thatgo into this, and I'm talking kind
of fast because I feel likewe're getting close to our time here.
But you mentally, physically,can do far beyond what you actually
think you can do.
Far beyond.
And that's, again, coming backto this, coming out of the ice.
That book opened my eyesbecause I read it right about the
time I broke my leg.
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You have the ability to dothings that you didn't even know
that you could accomplish.
And if you give yourselfpermission to try and to push and
to break through that, well, Idon't feel like I could.
If you give yourselfpermission, physically, mentally,
spiritually, socially, you cando it far, far more than you believe
you can.
And if I can instill thatbelief on somebody, then I'll say
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this entire thing was worth it.
If we can just instill thatbelief on one person, saying you
can do it, this whole entireconversation is worthwhile.
I second that and agree with that.
And I would say I'm thankfulfor you for saying all that and saying
it so convincingly and powerfully.
Because the things.
It is almost always the toughstuff that we have that shape our
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character and that causes usto blossom and grow.
It's not the successes, it'sthe things that at the moment feel
like terrifying and bad.
And our ability, I mean, beingdivine beings, we have that DNA.
So why is it shocking that wecan create awesomeness?
Why is that a surprise?
It shouldn't be and it can't be.
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That's amazing.
So you're right.
We're about to get toward the end.
What else would you like toshare as teaching, as lesson from
your own experiences, from.
Because I love your passionand the stories and the truth of
your, of your expression.
And truth carries its own power.
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So what didn't I ask you thatyou'd like to share?
The one thing that I can say,and this is what I struggle with,
and this is why I'm sopassionate about my, what I do as
far as the LEGO activities,the LEGO workshops, talking about
narrative live.
The reason why I'm sopassionate about all of those things
is it all hinges on this one key.
I grew up really alone.
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I grew up believing that I wasthe only one going through challenges,
trials, issues.
There are many, many times,and I can go back and recite many
stories where I thought, well,I'm the only one that has to do this.
I'm the only one that can do this.
When I say this, I'm not even kidding.
I literally unloaded an entiretrailer full of household goods,
all the furniture, sofa, everything.
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I did it by myself andrepacked it into a garage because
nobody else would help me, me.
And I mentally just put mymind to it.
So I know from experience thatyou can overcome a lot.
But here's the, here's thething that I want to make sure.
I, I, I express, I did it outof a false belief or a false narrative,
that I was the only one.
If I would have taken the timeto look and ask for help, I didn't
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have to do it alone.
So many people go through thisworld, through this life, believing
that they're the only onesgoing through that because they're
afraid to either ask or theybelieve that everybody else's life
is perfect and that becausethey have problems, they're the only
one.
And so therefore I can't share.
That's so, so much a false narrative.
And I wish I could break that.
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Because if we can get pastthis aspect and be able to be humble
enough to reach out and askfor help, the whole world can change
for you.
The whole world can open upinto this huge thing that you don't
even know is possible.
But if you stay under thatlie, that false narrative that you're
the only one going through,whatever it is that you're going
through, nobody can reallyhelp because you will not break out
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of your own soul.
You won't break out of yourown box.
So that's the one thing thatif I could express more than anything
else, is just know that you'renot alone.
There are people out therethat want and are able to help.
And all you have to do iseither pick up the phone or reach
out via email or just contactsomebody because there's people there
that are desperate and want tobe able to help you because they've
gone through it and they knowexactly how you're feeling.
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Thank you for sharing that.
I 100% agree.
I'm the only one is a common,common, common theme when we do coaching
or when we talk to people.
Oh, I'm not the only one.
Oh, that is so true thatpeople think that and so not true
that you're not alone and sotrue that there is help in people
willing and anxious andexcited and would be delighted for
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the opportunity to share andlift and be with you.
Tim, I want to thank you foryour passion, for your love and for
who you're being in the world,both for yourself, to your clients,
to your boys, and everyonethat is impacted by the truth of
your being.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Thanks for having me.
And this has been incredible.
I mean, I.
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I love hearing from people,yourselves as well as anybody that's
listening.
So please reach out.
I'd love to hear you.
How's the best way to get ahold of you?
The best way is emailtimcroll.com or LinkedIn.
Those are the two easiest way.
I'm on there all the time,except for when I'm disconnected.
I do take those sabbaticals.
Other than that, I'm here, I'mavailable, and I love being able
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to hear those words and, andpeople just.
Even if it's just to ask me aquestion, man, that's what I love
to do if it gives me so much fulfillment.
I have a statement up heresays how who have I impacted today?
And I live by that.
I just want to leave an impact.
And if somebody asks aquestion, I'm more than willing to
connect with you.
I want to emphasize that Timmeans it when he says that.
I know him.
I know him from severalinterviews and also because over
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the years, I've become good atreading people's energy.
I want you to listen to this acouple of times.
Tim talks fast and that's goodbecause there's a lot packed in there
and that's okay.
Go through it, take somenotes, listen to what resonates for
you and discover your uniqueness.
Because in that uniqueness andyour commitment to living it fully,
(41:45):
that's going to be your ticketto creating your ultimate life right
here, right now.
Your opportunity for massivegrowth is right in front of you.
Every episode gives youpractical tips and practices that
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