90. You're Wrong About How Wrong You Are About "Uncharted"

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hello welcome back to your wrong we have decided to continue our call at a
review of twenty twenty two we're doing some best stuff and so we the three
wise men missing

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oh

long time never time guest spencer

oh

a luciano

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yes i think

and and chris

it is i

m have

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jesus

decided that we are going to

okay

review the best of the worst of genremmovies

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oh

g willickers

and so watched

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ah bruce agrees

verse graze we have watched uncharted for you so that you

oh

cannot

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don't have to

yeah

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yeah

you're welcome

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you're welcome

m hm

what to say about this movie well hey let's get our ranking

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i

out of the way here i'm gonna go first it's not traditional but i just
want to be done talking this about this as soon as possible so

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wow setting

uh

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the tone

yeah vendor trash i think

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ah

is the thing we go with here

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wow really

so here's the thing about this movie that i don't like this story is convoluted

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yeah

all of

m

the puzzles don't feel like they're cool or interesting at all

yeah

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yeah

no

yeah

one on the screen has chemistry with anybody else except

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yes

for for maybe joe braddock played tatgabriel and her knife they have great chemistry

oh yeah

her little her little

yeah

blade thing

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oh

um

ah caramba maybe

this maybe the story plays

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the scott the scottman and

m

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and nathan drake

oh

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had a lot of chemistry between

thank you

oh

for

yeah

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each

pointing

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other

out that in twenty twenty two we are still

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yeah

making fun of accents because that's a thing that's funny in a movie

m

to do

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it's a white accent okay oh

okay it's just but that is perfect consolation of how lazy this movie is with

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true

its source material

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true oh

king mark plays his character

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ah

m

from the departed

m

he is

m

basically his departed guy for two hours straight um

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oh

you know

yeah

they actually stayed semi true of the

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yeah

source

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oh

material i guess it's the only saving grace but they try to get all the
source material from the four

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like

plus

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five

games

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games

into one movie

and that

i

was

think i

passing

will stop

me off

there i think that's enough of how much

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all

this

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right

movie pisces me

m

off um

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yeah

and

okay

the stunts are
dumb

so there you go

stupid so stupid

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yeah

like i just don't know why

yeah

and

okay

the last thing sorry because i'm already in ran mode

m

everybody

m

is the same character of i'm

yes

super cock i can

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yeah

handle us have been here before

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yeah

joke and it's just like is no one

oh

actually scared by the fact that

m

you're falling out of a plane

yeah

tout a parashout it's fine so i'm going to save my

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never

life

oh

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has never jumped out of a plane before

no

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has time to quip while falling not

ah

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knowing if he's going

m

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to survive

yeah

hm

exactly and also if you get hit that hard by certain things

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you

all

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die

your bones break yes yeah okay

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yeah

i yield my time yeah who

at the

who

same

wants

time

to go go next yeah

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go forward chris

okay cool i was at the same time note no one no one's mad at
your

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yeah

analysis sir

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yes

vendor trash is i get why you you

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yeah

awarded this movie vendor trash and at first i thought it would be common which
is the lowest second lowest of our low but now that you've

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yah oh

i think i think i think actually

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yeah

i might give it no actually wow i'm actually conflicted now i thought i came
in with a

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oh

common but now i feel myself being pulled to the not out of peer pressure
i feel myself pulling to the excited and i feel like i want to let
the hate flow

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m

but i want to love some of it too so i'm torn so i'll just
choose i'll go with common in the hopes that

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a

they learned from whatever this was for whatever they might do but here's the thing
i don't think they're going to be able to make another one because this one
was this one was like for tax purposes it felt like

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ah

to be

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expert

oh

yeah yeah

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is the last just the last one you slid in just you get a refund

yeah

yeah they went everybody

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yeah

wanted to make sure that they claimed enough health benefits and

oh

dental

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oh

while working on the set and making of this movie this one was just for
tax and benefit purposes

yes

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oh

so common

it feels like chris we need a new ranking system whereby common becomes tax purposes

not

and then

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oh

vendor trash is essentially

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m

bo shelving yet because they don't want to pay any residuals and

oh

they just want to x break like

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i think where

back girl if

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i

you

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think

will

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we're stumbling into a new radio system here i'm in for this

all

i'm

right

liking it too like

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yeah

like what do we do it's like we had two

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hm

suit

right

cases we have

yeah

case number one which is normal covers a nice range and in case number two
when ship gets real and we need to take the kid gloves

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we need

off

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we need like when ship is too shady we need to granualize the ship

ah

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and we opened the second brief case

the ship box

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yea the

the box

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ship box

of shit oh my god m yeah

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um all right

i

yeah

like you got ship and their toys good work every redy

yeah

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yeah

yah

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ah

yea

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you're done

yah

yes sir

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okay

yield the

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so

rest of my time

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when i started watching this movie and i was

yeah

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tallying you guys on on this cord

hm

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up until the halfway mark i was like this is right

m

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it was like it was it was hovering

m

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on an uncommon for me at that point and then

m

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just like the gray man which i feel is the thing

yeah

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that is happening with movies nowadays is just fucking tanks from the

m

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moment when they

m

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find that stupid map

yeah

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it's just

yeah

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it's not even down here it's falling the same fucking plane really

the second

m

map right

m

the one that mark mark

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yeah

had

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the one in the salt

oh no

and the

sorry

salt

the

salt

salt map sorry there's

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yeah

like three maps in

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so

this movie so it's confusing

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now and and some maps have two sides it's yeah

yeah

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so

yeah

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to me you

it

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said

was

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eve everything in this movie is convoluted for me the one more description of this
movies contrived

m

it's good

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every single

m

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thing is so everything that happens and this is contrived like the whole thing

oh

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especially after they got there on the plane and all that ship and everybody betraying
everybody i'm gonna land i think i'm on a common as well but i think
the reason for that is i never actually played much of uncharted

oh

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i played and charted one way after it was ever released and i really didn't
like it so

um

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i don't think i have as much love

m oh

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for dis source material that you have i know

yeah

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spencer has

my

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pretty big love for this is i'm sure

me

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he

too

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fucking hated this movie

we yeah

oh

it's better that we don't let him come on this podcast

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i

just

oh

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know

just enough hate already

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it will be a matrix for situation

yeah

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all over

oh

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again

nelly yeah

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but yeah it's it's

yeah

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just it goes from being all right this is convenient to like come on man
like

hm

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i'm supposed to believe this ship

yes

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it just flies off the handle completely

yes you are

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the only reason

m

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it's not vendor trash really for me is that i wasn't mad edit

m

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i was like okay i

m

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i had to experience this for myself now i'm done never

yeah

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going to watch it again

yeah

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right

yeah

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i

i feel

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also

that

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one something that i er you guys never didn't talk about and now i'll finish
here and then we can go to the questions i don't believe with the exception
of antonio benders at santiago moncada

m

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i don't believe in anybody in the roles that they were playing

oh

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it's

m

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completely broke my suspension

yeh

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of disbelief in every single way

m

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so

m

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mike mark faking remoting

yeah

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in with his performance

m

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wasn't even

yeah

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phoning it in

m

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he

m

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was

no

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on

at

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zoom that was that's how

that

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bad

was

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it

that

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was

was a

yet

team that was teams

yeah

then that was my of teams then

he was on teams

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yeah

and he didn't put his video

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no

on

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camera

uh

yeah

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no camera

that's right

yeah

ye

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so yeah it's a common for me but yeah yeah

a

all right

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yeah

well let's just dive into the questions because i'm sure we'll tease out the things
they didn't love about this movie as we rip through those questions and we're to

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i

start

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suspect

off

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every single answer is going to end up in a rent but let's go

let's

yeah

go well listen we got we're goin a positive

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oh

question to start

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oh

best character

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by

good luck

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santiago

yeah

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moncada

okay

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has to be

that's antonio ben dares's

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uh

character

m

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yeah a man with no blood

that

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in his

m

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body

yeah

uh

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get his fucking

uh

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gets his

ah

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fucking throat cut no blood

man

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like my wife was

i

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watching

didn't understand

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with me

it

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and she's

you

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like maybe the blood flowed inside and he chose to death in his blood i'm
like you're being very charitable right now he's like yeah i'm trying it's i liked
because he played it at the same time he played it straight but

yeah

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he also like you can tell he was having fun being like the villain sort
of tie he doesn't

m

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really get to play villains that much right

no

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antonio

m

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benders so

no

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i think he was having fun with that he was

m

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you know he was able to speak

m

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his proper castilian spanish

oh

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and

h

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heave fucking hammed

m

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it up to

yep

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like

m

[cobra] (09:45):
i enjoyed he was probably the only one i enjoyed every single time was on
the screen so

would agree i i found it this this this movie okay i'm trying to be
tight like but okay wow

yeah

i'm literally catching myself

yeah

real time from from rent mode okay so favorite character

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yeah

would be sully m m played by mark

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mark

mark

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mark

oh

because

oh god

and it's sort of it's a layer it's okay it's a layered explanation it's short
though he's cold he plays a cold character and he's all about the gold and
stuff and the treasure right but because of plot he does what's required but then
it comes off for me as warm most of the time so like when they're

(10:33):
trapped in the

oh

underneath the clock

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i see what you mean i

yeah

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see what you mean

he's resisting but then the plot pushes

a

him enough that i'm okay with it so like when when chloe and and nat
were trapped in the

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yeah

water was sorry after just

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a

before they broke into the salt chamber i like that

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the salt

yea

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this is where we are

yeah

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right now the

we

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salt

are

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chamber

in the old chamber yes

for real all day every day um he's like i'm gonna funk you up i'm
coming back for my p you're not gonna do nothing ain't given you and then
like camera

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m

cut

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yeah

it cloys like this is why

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oh

i don't like work with him and then it literally just shows him it doesn't
show him the key he just drops the key he talks a big game but
he's trying to be a team player

oh

and it's great when we consider about the uncharted lower like they've really dialed back

oh

the clock on this so that they could try and really

oh

play the long

yeah

game with this but i was okay with it but at the same time i
was like he's extra cold but he

oh

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oh

brings me back every time so yeah

i disagree with you

my

but that's okay

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i do as well i don't like him as silly at all

so so the problem

i get that too

this is this is like a i don't want to spend too much time on
this one because it's not entertaining to talk about it it's been rehashed

oh

time and time again but when you

oh

when you adapt materials ally video games especially when when the video game has a
strong narrative in the games themselves

[cobra] (12:01):
yeah

the questions are always like what parts do you keep

oh

in what parts do you change to better suit you know emotion

[cobra] (12:06):
the media yeah

media

yeah

yeah that that the medium you're working on to display it and give

m

better con and so like you know i think i've read some stuff about the
last of us being really really good but they made some changes because ou know
one of he things i saw was like you know they toned down some of
the violence because video games yu're

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yeah

kind o just expect lance in your kind of tone deft ut in a show
the impact

yes

i can half can really take you with a character and go one specific way

[cobra] (12:31):
yeah

before

first

and not let that character be sympathetic

[cobra] (12:33):
oh

but so

[cobra] (12:34):
h

i mentioned that here because like sell just fucking with and like

[cobra] (12:41):
yeah

gas lighting nathan

[cobra] (12:44):
yeah

drake the entire time is

h

not what he's presented

m

as as

in

a character

the game

in the video games not

[cobra] (12:49):
yeah

to

yeah

this extreme

[cobra] (12:50):
yeah

right and so it's like that choice just feels

[cobra] (12:53):
yes

like

[cobra] (12:54):
yeah

annoying or like you don't know the source material and

[cobra] (12:57):
yeah

whether it seems like they do and they don't it's

[cobra] (12:59):
just

just a weird thing to do because it didn't especially when nathan drake played the
same character than they're both like

[cobra] (13:05):
yeah

remember the rumors here ago that market markwasuposed to pay nathan drake

oh i don't remember

[cobra] (13:11):
i

that

[cobra] (13:11):
think

but

[cobra] (13:11):
i

okay

[cobra] (13:11):
did yeah

interesting

well it just seems like he just continued to play nathan drake in this movie
and they just called him selling instead of

yeah

nathan

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that's true because

yeah

[cobra] (13:19):
i like

yeah

[cobra] (13:20):
i said i don't know the material all that well but like isn't sally supposed
to be the straight man and and nadan drake is the joke ster

yes

pretty much

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everybody

generally

yes

[cobra] (13:30):
is a joke tiring this ship

yeah and

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yeah

what's also okay

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to me

go head

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the

go ahead

[cobra] (13:34):
problem with mark mark arcis

okay

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it's that i don't believe

oh

[cobra] (13:38):
in him as the syce wise sage sort of like treasure hunter

yeah

[cobra] (13:45):
i

hm

[cobra] (13:45):
just don't i just didn't believe any of his like all of his erogance of
like yeah i knew this i knew that he comes out of bravado without any
substance to me

yeah

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yeah

hm

[cobra] (13:58):
yeah

i would say and i guess

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oh

like the

[cobra] (14:01):
oh

s n to that while i i like he's still my pick for favorite what's

[cobra] (14:05):
ah

odd about

ah

so many of these

[cobra] (14:07):
oh

components is that it's

oh

it's got it's been like the uncharted title's been slapped onto this and the right
amount of notes have been

[cobra] (14:16):
yes

sprinkled on it but

ah

it's still not an uncharted cake

[cobra] (14:21):
yeah

that

oh

i'm eating you know what and so like when i look at the two of
them together draken and sully yes this is a bit of a prequel but something
is missing like when i zoom in

[cobra] (14:31):
it's called chemistry it's called chemistry

chemistry sure you can call it chemistry but i also think the writing

oh

played a part of a part of that as well

[cobra] (14:39):
for sure

and just like the

[cobra] (14:40):
yeah

bones of this but it's like like when you look through the window you're like
your your cakes or your your doughnuts and stuff they look like they're supposed to
but

oh

when you bite to wait a minute i didn't order a boston

[cobra] (14:51):
it's

cream

[cobra] (14:51):
tyraphome

yes

right

[cobra] (14:52):
it's tyrapomyeah

i

sawdust

didn't i didn't ask for this they say ho

[cobra] (14:55):
yeah

d your mother for me right

uh

so so like

[cobra] (14:57):
uh

it it is what it is

uh yeah

and it ain't what it ain't you know

[cobra] (15:00):
h

so okay

yeah

[cobra] (15:02):
who's

all

[cobra] (15:02):
your favorite character man

yeah

i want to pick tonio veneris just because

hm

he has fun he's enjoying himself his character

[cobra] (15:13):
ah

makes sense is his back story flimsy yes but

[cobra] (15:17):
oh

at

[cobra] (15:17):
yes

least

yes

it flows call like you need the bad

[cobra] (15:21):
yeah

guy in these things and this is part of the over all story of the
movie

[cobra] (15:23):
ye

the movie just as at a break neck pace he doesn't have any time to
explain anything so

[cobra] (15:27):
ah

just making

m

his story as flimsy as possible he likes money and he is going to the
family money is going to go away so he wants this money to redeem their
name um great great story and he has fun and then his untimely demise

[cobra] (15:40):
m

was

no

not shocking just okay

[cobra] (15:45):
it was surprising to me

it was

[cobra] (15:46):
i didn't

a surprise

[cobra] (15:46):
expect it

and hilarious

[cobra] (15:49):
yeah

like

[cobra] (15:49):
it was

that's what it was that's it was hilarious

yeah

[cobra] (15:50):
he's like

it's just like sure

[cobra] (15:51):
bragging and like shut up

yeah

[cobra] (15:53):
yeah

yeah

oh man

[cobra] (15:56):
yeah

oh

all

man

right let's move to our next question which

m

actor would

[cobra] (16:00):
m

you replace

[cobra] (16:02):
oh god can we flip this and what would you can we say what which
one i would not replace

no time to make some hard choices

m

yeah

[cobra] (16:12):
suck guys can go for because i have too many that i would replace

i will go first and

[cobra] (16:17):
m

it's a toss up i'm gonna go

hm

gonna go tom

oh

holland

okay

[cobra] (16:27):
yeah

and

[cobra] (16:28):
that was

h

[cobra] (16:28):
one of my main

it's

[cobra] (16:29):
picks

not

[cobra] (16:29):
too

that i think tom hollands a bad bad actor i think he's a good actor

yeah

but i literally called this

[cobra] (16:35):
yeah

movie spider man and

[cobra] (16:37):
yes

marking mark because

[cobra] (16:40):
oh

he not he feels like he's just playing peter parker like

[cobra] (16:45):
yeah

just confident peter parker which is i

yeah

guess it's a bit of a change from peter parker but still on the whole
movie frustrates me because he has this level of confidence and bravado that doesn't match
his age and experience with anything he's doing and

m

think if you maybe this is why i hesitated on tom hall because i think
the part

oh

is just the parts are ritten to similarly and so there's not enough differentiation

oh

but if you want someone who has more confidence

oh

i think you need to go to some one who is

thank

older wiser and who's

m

been in the game not just his brother talked about big game about one thing
and he memorized it and i was a pickpocket like i need more from him

yeah

and so i would age him

[cobra] (17:25):
yeah

up

[cobra] (17:26):
m

and then and then his

[cobra] (17:27):
m

relationship with mark wallburk makes more sense because he's been in the game he just
has information marking mark needs and it's not like he's learning from him he has
this level of experience and expectation yeah

[cobra] (17:41):
oh to me i don't know it it doesn't sound like nathan drake at all
to me anyway

yeah

[cobra] (17:49):
i just here's one of the ones where i was like i just don't believe
this character at all which is bad with the protagonist ah

yep

[cobra] (17:58):
um m you can go chris if you want

yeah i'm ready so i can i can i can speed mine up because

yeah

like do we have to choose one or can we should i save half of
it for later

i would mean half of it for later

well i am okay

[cobra] (18:16):
the question is who would you replace that's

no and

[cobra] (18:18):
it's

i would

[cobra] (18:18):
a

replace

[cobra] (18:19):
very

two

[cobra] (18:19):
simple

so

[cobra] (18:19):
question

i'm sorry because i got i

[cobra] (18:21):
i

went

[cobra] (18:21):
would replace like five

yeah

[cobra] (18:23):
but i was shot

i've got

[cobra] (18:24):
down

to

[cobra] (18:25):
so

i've got

pick

i've got

the

two but

one

i'll do one yep

yeah pick

[cobra] (18:27):
oh

the one you want to replace

i'll

the

do that

most where we're going to

i want to i'm still torn i'll save it for later so i'll replace sully
with john

[cobra] (18:39):
even though

ham

[cobra] (18:39):
he's their favorite

yes yes yes yes yes with john ham

[cobra] (18:43):
john hammer interesting

yes we

[cobra] (18:45):
ah

need someone like

[cobra] (18:47):
yeah

the it's

[cobra] (18:49):
i like

not

[cobra] (18:50):
it

chemistry

[cobra] (18:51):
it's the

it's

[cobra] (18:51):
gravitas

yes and we need and i respect you know tom holland and and oh you
know period but

[cobra] (19:01):
yeah

i feel like there was a missed opportunity and so with john ham he's getting
older he definitely though he like he can do straight man and he can do
he can do comedy i feel like he's he's definitely got more range than the
then mark

[cobra] (19:17):
yeah

walburga i would believe

[cobra] (19:18):
well you mean you mean they had to move the whole ship to boston just
so he can use his sheedy accent know what

and like i just

[cobra] (19:28):
m

think that you know physically sully even if sully is if they if they're choosing
across the time line a younger sully and a younger nathan drake fine but given
that semi shirtless scene with mark walburgh while they were in barcelona only to come

(19:49):
up and give us that line about sully like oh i can't i can't be
running around i got a bad ankle but the dude's buffets like you can be
in shape but like you can't run anymore to many s conflicting so i want
someone

[cobra] (20:00):
yes

who's either immobile i

[cobra] (20:03):
uh

want i want my sully i want my sully to just to walk around

[cobra] (20:08):
wabble

the streets to wabble

[cobra] (20:10):
yeah

or

yeah

you know

[cobra] (20:11):
oh

just saunter through the streets of barcelona and penny loafers or i want him to
also

[cobra] (20:15):
oh

keep up and then head someone off at the pass okay so john ham that's
my choice

[cobra] (20:22):
yeah

okay that seems fair

[cobra] (20:23):
so i i would replace what's her face that plays joe braddock

really

[cobra] (20:29):
or whatever

tati

[cobra] (20:30):
do not

gabriel

[cobra] (20:31):
believe gabriel yes i

really

[cobra] (20:33):
do not believe for a micro second that she is this bad ass fighter

oh

how so

[cobra] (20:41):
that is i just did not from the first moment when they show her talking
to to

yeah

[cobra] (20:49):
santiago and and see go or stay away from her blahblabla i'm like why she
looks like she's arm candy and that's how they placed

yeah

[cobra] (20:56):
her there and

m

[cobra] (20:57):
was like this is bad

ah

[cobra] (20:59):
why did they do this and then the whole all the interactions that there are
with her especially all the fight scenes like

oh

[cobra] (21:07):
i don't know when she was fighting

yeah

[cobra] (21:10):
mark mark on papa john

papa

[cobra] (21:13):
that was

john

[cobra] (21:13):
funny

yes

[cobra] (21:14):
yeah she's landing blows and like he wouldn't even have felt those blows because exactly
because he's so so but like the way that he was and

m

[cobra] (21:24):
she like the punch is i don't know if it was the fight coreography or
what it was did not believe that she had it in her to be that
like enforcer leader of this fucking mercenary army ship

m

[cobra] (21:38):
and whatever i just did not drive with me at all

testing

[cobra] (21:43):
yeah that's what i don't know who to replace her with what's the name of
the actress that plays you remember unbreakable no no unbreakable sorry kingsman

yeah i

oh

was on the same path i'm looking up her name right now because that's that's

[cobra] (21:59):
yeah

i see

who

her

[cobra] (21:59):
sophia

yep

[cobra] (22:01):
something

sophia

yep

butella

yep

[cobra] (22:04):
tell a yes that would have been a much better pick in my opinion

yeah

someone a bit more athletic

[cobra] (22:09):
she's a she has the athleticism and she's a good actress too

yeah

yeah the

[cobra] (22:15):
good enough that she would tell it

yeah

[cobra] (22:16):
at least

i think and i don't want to spend forever just sitting on this movie in
a boring way so i'll do it enough

[cobra] (22:24):
isn't that what we're doing

well

[cobra] (22:25):
here

we got to do in the fun we're supose o be entertaining

oh

and not

[cobra] (22:28):
okay

just like complaining

[cobra] (22:30):
grumpy old bastards

yeah yeah

[cobra] (22:31):
okay

we're trying to we're trying to this up well i will say is her problem
is

[cobra] (22:36):
ah

that the story is ridiculous and stupid and she has no ability the act her
way out of the corner they tracer in

m

[cobra] (22:44):
fair it is fair

they make her

[cobra] (22:46):
yeah

she's supposed to be like nathan not nathan drake's selles old protegee she is the
dumbest dumbest treasure hunter i have ever seen

yeah

based on what they gave her to work with every step

[cobra] (23:00):
also

oh

she sucks up

[cobra] (23:02):
well

every

[cobra] (23:02):
they

step

[cobra] (23:03):
all they're all terrible let's

no

[cobra] (23:04):
be honest

yes

yes but she is singularly the worst

yeah

because

[cobra] (23:08):
yeah

she never does anything

[cobra] (23:09):
she

right

[cobra] (23:09):
sucks up at every single chance that you

yes

[cobra] (23:12):
how and like unto when there's supposed to be this like like mustache twirling villain
is she's like sucks up and he goes okay

oh

[cobra] (23:20):
try again

oh

yeah

[cobra] (23:22):
ah

so it's

yeah

just

[cobra] (23:23):
yeah

it's it's i don't know i think this is the problem with all of these
characters i don't think any of them are necesrily bad actors i can't tell because
all of the characters they've

m

been

[cobra] (23:31):
market

m

given to

[cobra] (23:31):
markers

work with that's

yeah

fair market market is a one note actor and generally i like it stick but
it really doesn't play well on this

okay

movie

[cobra] (23:37):
yeah

yeah

moving on we've

okay

[cobra] (23:39):
yeah

replaced all almost all the main people in the movie so

[cobra] (23:42):
yeah

that's a good sign nothing can

[cobra] (23:44):
you didn't you never said

i saw

[cobra] (23:45):
who you

it

[cobra] (23:46):
would replace tom

yeah

[cobra] (23:47):
holland with

tom holliwith if we got to go we got to age him up this is
hard

it's not i can help if you want

[cobra] (23:52):
i have

yes

[cobra] (23:53):
i have one

all

[cobra] (23:54):
that

right

[cobra] (23:54):
is impossible but i have one

why

go for

is he

it i have

[cobra] (23:56):
it's a

i have twelve

[cobra] (23:57):
firefly era nathan felion

okay

okay

yeah the internet was horny for that forever a nice nice job

true

[cobra] (24:02):
i

way

[cobra] (24:03):
know

to steal their

[cobra] (24:03):
i know

answer

true

[cobra] (24:04):
the

true

[cobra] (24:04):
internet

true

[cobra] (24:05):
was right

oh

[cobra] (24:06):
for once

oh

true we have i already was when i was torn before is because i already
surfaced a previous list

ah

there's twelve different candidates my kind

[cobra] (24:16):
oh my

of

[cobra] (24:17):
god

don't want i won't go i mean i could go through a twelve but i
won't

[cobra] (24:19):
no don't

i won't my personal

[cobra] (24:21):
my

pick would be somewhat of someone who has the potential but isn't too famous scott
eastwood so he at the time

[cobra] (24:31):
the name the name rings a bell

clint eastward son so this was actually published twenty sixteen

[cobra] (24:37):
yeah

and at the time he was thirty

yeah

so i think he'd

[cobra] (24:42):
oh

have enough age for us to to accept that he's gone through

[cobra] (24:48):
oh

certain

[cobra] (24:48):
god

periods

[cobra] (24:48):
he has

of

[cobra] (24:49):
he has the queen t is already

yah

hm

[cobra] (24:52):
uh

yeah

[cobra] (24:55):
okay

h oh

[cobra] (24:55):
there i can see it

t would be my my pick um out of the twelve and your boy oscar
isicisin twenty six

oh

ten was also on this list but

[cobra] (25:04):
no

i specifically

[cobra] (25:05):
sorry

didn't

yeah

bring

[cobra] (25:05):
no

him

[cobra] (25:06):
just now

into this

[cobra] (25:06):
yeah ah

and then you know

[cobra] (25:09):
love the guy but no

and then yeah i'll leave it at that but there are a lot of really
good

[cobra] (25:13):
ah

candidates but i chose him because i feel like he's been surfaced his name has
been surfaced in a lot of different properties but hasn't yet really he hasn't

[cobra] (25:22):
taking

he struck

[cobra] (25:23):
on

it big yeah so i think this would

[cobra] (25:25):
makes

have

[cobra] (25:25):
sense

been pretty cool for him

[cobra] (25:27):
you have you have your name man

i'm trying to get the age right and it probably is close compared to market
mark but i'm gonna go to jensen apples again

nice

i think

get that

he would

[cobra] (25:39):
oh shit

a bit older

[cobra] (25:40):
that is

can

[cobra] (25:41):
a good

still

[cobra] (25:41):
pick

pull it off got that that look in

m

that swag so i think that's

h

where i would i would land

m

[cobra] (25:46):
yeah oh man that's a good pick yeah

i would have been fun

i don't i don't

[cobra] (25:50):
yeah

i don't love him like luciana loves oscrisex but i keep picking him for things

oh

so maybe maybe there's something secret going on

[cobra] (25:56):
maybe

there

[cobra] (25:57):
you do

maybe

[cobra] (25:57):
that

i

[cobra] (25:58):
maybe

do

[cobra] (25:58):
you do

i'm fine with it honestly

we're manifesting

we are that's good okay let's get into

yeah

our fun questions

it

chris

[cobra] (26:05):
yeah

yes sir

how yes who to pick for chris

yeah

how does
victor selivandestress

okay

[cobra] (26:20):
yeah

that's a wonderful question victor sullivan an international man of mystery if you will doesn't
really

[cobra] (26:29):
yeah

he doesn't he

[cobra] (26:30):
yeah

doesn't have one just one place to hang his chapeau if you will he has

[cobra] (26:37):
he's

a number

[cobra] (26:37):
too

of his too he

[cobra] (26:39):
oh

has

nice

a very very special

so

hidden away location place dwelling if you will where

m

he keeps his stash

oh

his master stash and what

yeah

does he do when he's there

oh

you you ask pray tell it pool

yeah

in the in bali and

okay

he likes to hop in his pool of spoils if you will he likes to
swim around because deep down

[cobra] (27:07):
like screwge style

let me finish my sentence sir

[cobra] (27:11):
uh u

yes that is exactly

[cobra] (27:14):
h

where i was going

[cobra] (27:15):
uh

with it he loves

oh

gold he loves all of his

[cobra] (27:18):
i can see it

and

yeah

he swims in it because that is where he's at in his journey at this
time

so does

[cobra] (27:25):
yeah

he have proper gold coins just like screws been conducted

no no they're mostly chocolate and then like mixed in he can tell

oh

which ones are like tony

yeah

wrapped chocolate and then which

right

ones are actual

[cobra] (27:36):
tony has specifically canadian currency there

he

well you need to be able to tell what is real from what is like
the actual

[cobra] (27:44):
oh

treasure so you can

so

swim

he's got

and not

treasure

get

[cobra] (27:46):
h

treasure

yes

to swim in and then you got to neachocolates to

chocolates like you got it takes a lot of energy and carbs and calories

to swim through

to be

metal

able

coins

to swim

yeah

through metal coins

it does

so and

[cobra] (27:59):
yeah

you need to be able to refuel as

m

you are performing

m

ritual this sacred

m

ritual that only

hm

he performs in the solitude of his bally bally hoard

this does

yeah

explain why it's so tough

you know

[cobra] (28:13):
yeah

swing around those coins that's the greatest

you

workout

just

[cobra] (28:15):
not

like

[cobra] (28:15):
easy

ever

paddle doggy paddle

[cobra] (28:19):
yeah

oh

[cobra] (28:20):
yeah

you know so yeah

yeah

[cobra] (28:21):
you guys seen the scene from

hm

yeah

[cobra] (28:24):
family guy when they show peter griffin jumping into pool of coins and breaking every
bone in his body

that makes a lot of sense

that should have happened a number of times in this movie but it didn't so

[cobra] (28:35):
yes

i would

true

allow christmas answer

thank you

[cobra] (28:38):
no i'm okay with

yea

[cobra] (28:38):
it

yeah

i yield the rest of my

[cobra] (28:42):
oh

time but

no

i enjoyed that question

you did he did a great job lison

[cobra] (28:46):
m s

how do you think your favorite character er santiago moncada

oh

stresses

[cobra] (28:55):
oh boy oh let's see this is a man

m h

[cobra] (29:02):
with a waning

m

oh

[cobra] (29:03):
fortune but like the aristocratic upbringing bogie bringing i should say

the man had enough money to buy a military grade airplane ship car nd a
bunch of ship to

hm

philippines multiple

[cobra] (29:20):
get fucking gutted like a fish

multiple moving planes um

[cobra] (29:24):
fair fair

yeah

[cobra] (29:25):
so he

yeah

[cobra] (29:25):
has had some some cash to burden is what you're saying

yeah

[cobra] (29:29):
i in i think he has a private island

m

and

ah

bally

[cobra] (29:35):
like

ah m

[cobra] (29:37):
sure

okay

[cobra] (29:38):
for the sake of argument

it's fair enough

[cobra] (29:40):
i was going to say it was

m

[cobra] (29:41):
off like off the coast of spain

olly

[cobra] (29:43):
but yeah in bally just off the cost of a he has a portal there

yeah

m

[cobra] (29:52):
and this is a lawless place

oh

[cobra] (29:55):
where everything s

hm

[cobra] (29:58):
and so

also like

[cobra] (30:00):
there

richard

[cobra] (30:00):
is

branson island

m

[cobra] (30:03):
yes

m

[cobra] (30:04):
yes

okay

r g

[cobra] (30:05):
but

il

[cobra] (30:05):
with probably like more cocaine

oh

[cobra] (30:09):
and

ah

so like

[cobra] (30:11):
fewer orgies

we

[cobra] (30:12):
i guess

the island

oh

that's nick cage visited in his movie

the wicker man oh no wait no

the wicker man no

[cobra] (30:19):
the weaker man otevolemovie

the bees the bees the bees

[cobra] (30:28):
the island that nick

yeah

[cobra] (30:29):
visited in his movie face off

yeah

[cobra] (30:31):
wait what

ah

alcatras no variable wit of massive talent

okay

[cobra] (30:38):
yeah yeah he's

a

[cobra] (30:39):
ravi basically

yeah yeah okay

[cobra] (30:41):
have

hvyhavyyeah

[cobra] (30:41):
yeah

okay okay

[cobra] (30:42):
oh is this race it's okay with spanish people i don't care yeah

we're

[cobra] (30:47):
i know

trying

[cobra] (30:47):
i think

to remember

[cobra] (30:47):
he

the

[cobra] (30:47):
has

name

[cobra] (30:48):
like this private allen when like all of

oh

[cobra] (30:50):
the stress of dealing with his father before he murdered him um and like wanting
to kind of cool

well

[cobra] (30:57):
off he goes to this island and does loads of blow

okay

[cobra] (31:01):
um

with

[cobra] (31:02):
probably

bears

a yeah

[cobra] (31:04):
yes

that's why he has no blood the cocaine

[cobra] (31:06):
ah

stole

hm

it all

m

[cobra] (31:08):
there you go

yeah

[cobra] (31:09):
there you go it's so so fast rushing that it doesn't flow out

m

[cobra] (31:14):
and

m

[cobra] (31:15):
probably some other like probably

yeah

[cobra] (31:17):
hunt minors for money

okay so let's just check

ye

[cobra] (31:20):
you

here

[cobra] (31:20):
just let

minors

[cobra] (31:21):
children run

children

[cobra] (31:22):
minors

okay thank you i wasn't sure

[cobra] (31:24):
ren

if they

[cobra] (31:24):
not

were like

[cobra] (31:24):
not not old

yeah

[cobra] (31:26):
man

right

[cobra] (31:26):
with dirty hands no

i think

[cobra] (31:27):
like

you

maybe they were like

you

he's

mistepped

got all the seven dwarfs and he just

yes

like i'm gonna go hunt sleepy this week gonna unt dark

[cobra] (31:34):
i'm

that's right

[cobra] (31:36):
hunting sleeping

yeah

[cobra] (31:36):
was not fun i just

you know

[cobra] (31:38):
tried it when he

yeah

[cobra] (31:38):
was sleeping

i

you know

no effort

[cobra] (31:40):
yeah

bashful

[cobra] (31:41):
yeah

was

[cobra] (31:41):
he hunt

no fun

[cobra] (31:42):
like

oh

[cobra] (31:44):
you know hunts humans for first port

m

as this tradition

[cobra] (31:48):
and that kind

for

[cobra] (31:48):
of

rich

[cobra] (31:48):
stuff

people

i still think

[cobra] (31:50):
yes

the miners

[cobra] (31:51):
yeah

the dwarfs would have done

yeah

run

[cobra] (31:55):
as a different child it's a different challenge

okay okay

they

[cobra] (31:59):
yeah

are nature's

[cobra] (32:00):
yeah

deadliest game

uh

there's seven

[cobra] (32:02):
there

of

[cobra] (32:02):
you

them

[cobra] (32:02):
go

h it

m

okay

[cobra] (32:07):
ever replacing seven

yep

[cobra] (32:09):
when one dies another one is born yes

ye

cut

got

one

the money

head off

to regenerate

one takes his

the

place

clones

exactly

[cobra] (32:13):
oh my god

oh

[cobra] (32:14):
he's clowning

yeah

[cobra] (32:15):
dwarfs in this

m

[cobra] (32:17):
fucking island

that's why it needs five billion dollars it's expensive

m

to

[cobra] (32:20):
makes

colonedorbs

[cobra] (32:20):
sense makes

he's got

[cobra] (32:21):
it's expensive

he's got price price habits met how does nathan drake

a

distress

great question nathan drake distressing is an interesting question

hm

m because he's both the highest of

i

high strong and the lowest of low strong people at the same

[cobra] (32:42):
yes

time i have

m

[cobra] (32:43):
yeah

no idea what his motions

m

are on day to

[cobra] (32:46):
oh

day basis so

m

i think in order

m

to

[cobra] (32:51):
m

match that um m the high energy

i

and the low energy i think that

[cobra] (32:58):
yeah

he

[cobra] (32:59):
sky dives smoking pot

m

well let me that's one way you can go

[cobra] (33:02):
oh

out if i

[cobra] (33:03):
yeah

was thinking that

[cobra] (33:05):
m

he would do like molly or ecstasy yeah

[cobra] (33:11):
m

m

and and golf

m

yeah oh

[cobra] (33:17):
can

m

[cobra] (33:17):
you imagine like it's just like

yeah

[cobra] (33:20):
hopping from foot to foot until it's his

yeah

[cobra] (33:22):
turn fucking

h

[cobra] (33:23):
wax aid the

m

[cobra] (33:24):
the the grass gouging the grass before hitting the actual bull

yeah because you need you need the low

[cobra] (33:30):
yeah

stress activity to balance the high stress activities he normally

[cobra] (33:33):
oh

doesn't his life

[cobra] (33:34):
i see

and so being able to take on those low stress activities sucked out of his
mind is like the perfect

m

reverser

[cobra] (33:42):
yeah

m

to his life

m

oh

i like that for him

[cobra] (33:45):
i like molly golf i like this

molly

yeah

of

yeah

of

[cobra] (33:51):
nice

wolf i hate that

[cobra] (33:52):
golly

name

yeah

but

molly

we'll

of

work on it we're going to work on that name

moth

yeah

[cobra] (33:58):
it's golly

golly

[cobra] (33:59):
it's golly

all

[cobra] (34:00):
yeah

we did it moving on

[cobra] (34:03):
m yeah

what was the most

m

rewatchable scene

[cobra] (34:07):
oh

oh

in this god forsaken hell hole of a movie

[cobra] (34:11):
yeah

i think here i think this might be one of the few opportunities we might
all

yeah

be aligned because the planets

[cobra] (34:19):
think so

are i think so my guess is that it's going to be it's going to
be between something else and santiago's untimely debt

[cobra] (34:32):
that's not the one for me but

okay

[cobra] (34:34):
it's a good scene

yeah

[cobra] (34:35):
but it's not the one for me

okay what do you you think

okay

that's mine for

[cobra] (34:38):
for

me

[cobra] (34:38):
me one of

i

[cobra] (34:39):
the most fun scenes

yeah

[cobra] (34:42):
was watching um m nate

oh

[cobra] (34:49):
flounder trying to get

yeah

[cobra] (34:50):
away from the

yeah

[cobra] (34:52):
henchman on the auction house

oh

[cobra] (34:55):
he's just floundering the whole way

hm

[cobra] (34:59):
tripping and falling and all that stuff i don't know why it tickled me but
it was maybe because i was naive and unhurt person that had

oh

[cobra] (35:10):
not watched the whole movie yet

oh

[cobra] (35:12):
so so i was

yeah

[cobra] (35:14):
able to enjoy that scene that the scene like the fight in the rave was
also kind of okay

yeah it was all right

[cobra] (35:21):
but then it's like why did he know how to do like flame with vodka
and fire all of us i don't know

a bartender

m

i'll give that's not the only thing i will actually give him alcohol

m

and fire

[cobra] (35:34):
okay

yeah

make flame throwers

[cobra] (35:37):
stupid fucking lighter that never works

yeah

yeah you'd think he would get it refilled by now yeah

[cobra] (35:45):
yeah

yea

[cobra] (35:45):
i think i think i would pick the first like the fight in the not
really the fight is just him trying to get away from the goons

yeah

hm

[cobra] (35:53):
in the auction house

okay

hm

um all all great options um m i think i'm going to go with the
scene where um the voice actor shows up

now in north on the

nolan

beach

[cobra] (36:14):
oh

norse

[cobra] (36:14):
no north

yeah

[cobra] (36:15):
good that's good

that

[cobra] (36:16):
yeah

was a cup

[cobra] (36:17):
that

of

[cobra] (36:17):
was good

cup of

what

hot cocoa during

[cobra] (36:19):
yeah

this experience

part

[cobra] (36:22):
in the winter

oh

[cobra] (36:23):
there was this movie

the winter

yeah

of discontent part of it

oh

is

[cobra] (36:26):
yeah

i do hate this movie a

[cobra] (36:29):
oh

lot and so i am thrashing some of their big set pieces because i think
they were dumb but part of it also is they actually did a good job
with some of the uncharted parts of this like tying into the video games having
now or shop was good there were several

h

[cobra] (36:41):
yeah

scenes that were

m

basically shots taken you know out of the video game like when

[cobra] (36:46):
oh

he shows up and he finds the magellan boats which is nother story was at
a high level a story that you played in the uncharted games but they stitched
together

hm

small scenes from the charted games and story lines to make this story and so
you know chart for finding the boats in that lake underwater not underwater cave that
clearly could be accessed

[cobra] (37:07):
oh

yeah

not gonna talk about that was

tavern

like a cool

or whatever

one for one representation of a scene i saw when i played the video game
so that was good and like

m

how he got his sort

on

of then drake outfit collected it wasn't

[cobra] (37:18):
yeah

ham

m

fisted like fucking solo

sure

was

[cobra] (37:20):
no it was it was like that was like one of those who would go
okay

yeah

yeah

[cobra] (37:24):
i got where they did this and this was cool him putting

hm

[cobra] (37:27):
on

yeah

[cobra] (37:27):
the holsters and everything

it was just

[cobra] (37:28):
yeah

like it just happened naturally was like oh ship there they are and i like
you know like when you're watching was watching me like something missing from his outfit
and i can't because it's suspenders i couldn't remember then when he put the

[cobra] (37:37):
suspenders

guns on yeah yeah

magellan

[cobra] (37:39):
is like a nineteen fifties boxer

yeah

[cobra] (37:44):
t shirt and suspenders

yah

um but when i got that stuff then i was like oh she had okay
it's altogether a good

oh

job

[cobra] (37:49):
yep

so that's that's one of th reasons why i'm picking old north showing up because
like it was casual and the joke was a good end joke and if you
know you know if you didn't whatever the

yeah

movies anyway don't worry about it

yeah

[cobra] (38:01):
they did the same with the whole mustache thing in the post scribe scene right

i missed that i missed that

yeah

okay

[cobra] (38:08):
so you didn't miss anything don't worry about

saw

well

the

you missed

one post

[cobra] (38:11):
that

cre

[cobra] (38:11):
what's that on your face the worry kid put purity as well around the corner

yeah

[cobra] (38:15):
you can grow into

m

[cobra] (38:16):
it was it was like that's that's the kind of banter i expected from

yeah

[cobra] (38:19):
them the whole move that's never

because

[cobra] (38:20):
happened

you didn't miss the

hm

best part of the movie when when he brought the cat with him on their
mission

[cobra] (38:25):
oh

the cat was in a back fact

[cobra] (38:27):
yeah

oh

hell

[cobra] (38:28):
that's true that

yeah

[cobra] (38:29):
that scene is funny at least

i'm sorry what

[cobra] (38:33):
it's a post

yeah

[cobra] (38:34):
credit scene

okay thank god okay

yeah

for a second i thought that was during the movement like i didn't see that
ship at all okay

[cobra] (38:40):
no no it's

no

[cobra] (38:41):
after

you're

[cobra] (38:41):
the creator

okay

[cobra] (38:41):
there

you

so

didn't

it sounds

miss

like

anything

there was like four so is that two posted post credit because

yeah

i

[cobra] (38:46):
yeah

saw the one with his brother

yeah

and then the other one i didn't know there was another okay okay okay

yeah

[cobra] (38:51):
yeah

yeah

okay

the brother one is like dumb because it's just

[cobra] (38:54):
yeah

not necessary but what do we know

i mean

[cobra] (38:56):
well the post card scene is also

oh

[cobra] (38:58):
dumb because a

oh

[cobra] (38:58):
bunch of things happen in there there you go why is this happening this way
but

hm

[cobra] (39:01):
anyway

yeah

anyway as we move on we let it go we're releasing we're releasing our anger
we're putting it up into the ethos for everybody

[cobra] (39:08):
um

else

[cobra] (39:10):
yeah

um guess the question i have here is

m

[cobra] (39:15):
ah

what would i'm trying to let's go with the irish guy the scotsman as you
listen to steve watington bucking

yeah

[cobra] (39:25):
yes

english scottish name i've ever heard one

uh

what would he

huh

do for a first date

oh

[cobra] (39:33):
ship

oh

[cobra] (39:34):
that's hard because he's like calling him two dimensional is kind of a compliment

it's

[cobra] (39:42):
at

one

[cobra] (39:42):
this

and

[cobra] (39:42):
point

a half dimensions

m

more than he possessed

[cobra] (39:44):
yeah yeah

well it's not fair he's a thug and could fly

[cobra] (39:48):
oh

helicopter

[cobra] (39:50):
oh yeah

okay

i'm giving you stuff to work with i don't know

so based on that i think

[cobra] (39:56):
oh

i think he

[cobra] (39:57):
shouldn't

would

[cobra] (39:58):
i come to play out with the big

yah

[cobra] (40:00):
boys

oh

[cobra] (40:00):
win because now you're about to get a proper scottish welcome

and then the date would be like

[cobra] (40:11):
nice

what

but

[cobra] (40:12):
nice

but

like

at least this time she's just confused about the words he's saying not by the
accent she doesn't understand what a proper

[cobra] (40:17):
yeah

correct

scottish welcome

like

is

what kind like

[cobra] (40:20):
yeah

is that a drink or are you going to like are you going to sexually

yeah

attempt

[cobra] (40:24):
yeah

to assault me and any like no

[cobra] (40:27):
oh

no no anyways i

you

think

got

he

russian

would

[cobra] (40:31):
he became russian

yeah

[cobra] (40:33):
yes

i don't know what i sound like words sounds anyways

[cobra] (40:39):
yeah

i think he would he based on on the data that you've provided i think
he might well actually know taking them on like a flight of some sort would
probably be like his ace card he would try to play if he's really into
some but i don't think that i'm going to just like try and yes and
the whole question i think he would

[cobra] (40:58):
that's all you have to work

it's all

[cobra] (40:59):
with

it's fine and that's okay so i assume he's goin to wipe right on a
bunch of people show up at the bar they're going to have a few drinks
and then he's gonna try and he's going to go straight to whatever if he's
into the person maybe like like what his intentions are if he's only like docked
in

[cobra] (41:18):
yeah

oh

or like corded or docked in one particular airport short pad of time sounds like
it might be a one night a thing but then what would happen if he
was actually into the person

oh

then like would he give them

yeah

his card

[cobra] (41:30):
yeah

would he give them his linked in to stay

yes

in

[cobra] (41:33):
so

touch

[cobra] (41:33):
i i want to yes and this too because i think what he would do
is i think he knows that some people in his case i'm assuming he's straight
to some women find like a different accent cute so he would go on a
bunch of first dates trying to just get by using his accent and see what
happens

m

[cobra] (41:55):
like together with what you said he would like you would just

oh

[cobra] (41:58):
like exaggerate even more his accent and then if the woman went oh you're a
foreigner

oh

[cobra] (42:04):
i like your accent he's like i'm in

uh

oh

[cobra] (42:07):
this sweet lass is in my bed now i don't know

h

[cobra] (42:10):
where i went

and

[cobra] (42:10):
with that

then

[cobra] (42:11):
either

he takes him

[cobra] (42:12):
m

to

h yeah

a scottish

[cobra] (42:14):
yeah

theme bar it's not like it's got to be cotland theme

okay

like it's not just a bar that is cottish in tones it's like overtly

[cobra] (42:22):
no no

scottish

[cobra] (42:24):
like aggressively

aggressive

[cobra] (42:25):
offensively

of

[cobra] (42:26):
scottish

exactly offensively scottish and

m

then

yeah

he's like he orders like haggis and all the like he goes fucking full scotsman

[cobra] (42:33):
oh my

yeah

[cobra] (42:34):
god

to

[cobra] (42:35):
right

show how cool

how

and cultured he is as a scottish person

[cobra] (42:38):
what what is the name of this pub

oh

[cobra] (42:42):
that is a quaziracist tourist trap

um great question

[cobra] (42:47):
yeah

m

what old historical

m

oh what's this it's the william wallace

ah

ye

[cobra] (42:56):
okay

yeah

[cobra] (42:57):
okay

yeah

[cobra] (42:58):
ah

i get that i got

yep

that okay okay okay

as

dig

his move

it okay it would be a draw

[cobra] (43:04):
how

it would

[cobra] (43:05):
do you say

it would

[cobra] (43:05):
it

be a weirdly i love this question because it's such a hard equation

[cobra] (43:10):
what

like

[cobra] (43:12):
i

trying to picture this guy like we've done it so far it's like

oh

wow how would this happen how would he make

[cobra] (43:18):
we

this

[cobra] (43:19):
william's

work

a

[cobra] (43:20):
watering hole

yeah

[cobra] (43:21):
that's the name of the war

yeah it's great well it's it's a challenge your chris is to take something we
know nothing about and

yeah

set

[cobra] (43:27):
yeah

him up for dating success or failure as i be i don't know

i do love this question though so

just

that's

let's

okay

pick some one out here again we can do one more we haven't we've been
dancing around cloy fraser and i think we need to talk about her

[cobra] (43:41):
okay

so

okay

[cobra] (43:42):
okay

you know cloy fraser played by sophia

[cobra] (43:44):
oh

all

m

how would be her

m

first eight move

to do i feel like

[cobra] (43:53):
also not

go

[cobra] (43:54):
very three day mansion no no no is just thinking

i think i think it would be two birds one stone i feel like most
of not that she's not that she's incapable of

[cobra] (44:06):
oh

like

[cobra] (44:08):
yeah

genuine human emotion like looking for seeking intimacy and so on but

[cobra] (44:13):
people

i feel like most of her like her dates would also be marks and she'd
be like

[cobra] (44:18):
yeah

two birds one stone like this person is my target

[cobra] (44:22):
ye

and i need something from them but i'm going to have some fun with it
i'm going to quote unquote let my hair down and and experience this like

yeah

live this experience for a and then once

[cobra] (44:32):
yeah

i've extracted what i

yeah

need i'm going to disappear under the cover of night

[cobra] (44:37):
yeah she calls this move the nathan drake

oh

no it's a it's the silly where she

m

[cobra] (44:44):
no

learned it

[cobra] (44:44):
no

from

[cobra] (44:45):
she she did that with with nathan as well

but that's she learned from sally that's what she said

[cobra] (44:50):
okay the sellien okay

yeah

[cobra] (44:52):
makes sense

at

[cobra] (44:53):
yah

least like hats

[cobra] (44:54):
i agree i think she would

oh

oh

[cobra] (44:56):
she would try to get some monetary gain from

yeah

[cobra] (44:59):
from the date as

and

[cobra] (45:00):
well

i don't mean like a

yeah

thief like like it's

well

part

[cobra] (45:03):
no no

of a

[cobra] (45:03):
no

gig

[cobra] (45:05):
yeah

i think

[cobra] (45:05):
yeah

she i think like that that sort of that might be

ye

a little bit of her code because it seems like she has some degree of
like a spectrum of sorry of a conscience as we've seen through

[cobra] (45:17):
yeah

the movie

so she wouldn't

i would say

intentionally

so

go out to get a free meal out of it it would just always happen
is that what you're saying

[cobra] (45:24):
uh

she's working she's working

[cobra] (45:26):
h

and if they and if they have a bite to eat

oh

they got a bite to eat

[cobra] (45:29):
yeah

but like she's she's on the job she's on the clock

[cobra] (45:32):
yeah i think at the very least she would get a meal out of it
that's the least like that would be if that's all she got from the date
in terms of like

m

[cobra] (45:42):
monetary gain she would consider it like failure

and if not

[cobra] (45:46):
ah

monetary i think it might even be take it as

[cobra] (45:48):
yeah

a

[cobra] (45:49):
an item or something right

sure but

[cobra] (45:51):
if she needed to infiltrate a place she would go on a date with like
the security guy and steal his bag or something

yes

[cobra] (45:58):
so that you could get into

yeah

[cobra] (45:59):
the

yes i

[cobra] (46:01):
shoot cat woman this ship

yeah

[cobra] (46:03):
basically

oh

what i'm trying to say is i wouldn't put it i think she would she
would be able to pull off a graceful long can

[cobra] (46:11):
oh yeah

you know

so she get here for like five years

i once

[cobra] (46:15):
year

get married

[cobra] (46:16):
oh

have two kids and then

but they

finally

weren't her kids she never gave birth

[cobra] (46:21):
yeah

paid for an actor she paid for actors

consuelo

how she

consuelo

[cobra] (46:26):
wow that is a long can

okay

ah and then

kay

like

fair enough

[cobra] (46:31):
m

the person is like wow you you you

[cobra] (46:33):
yes

lost that that baby weight

[cobra] (46:35):
baby

like like nothing

[cobra] (46:36):
wait

and she's like

[cobra] (46:38):
like

you know you know

good jeans

[cobra] (46:39):
good gens

yeah

[cobra] (46:40):
yeah

yeah

as she puts on her mom jesus he's gonna go get the store and get
some milk you wite anything

yeah

in the door slants

gone forever

[cobra] (46:47):
i see what you did there by the way with the gens

m

[cobra] (46:50):
job

we knew that all right good job everybody we've tarnished more characters i'm proud of
us for

[cobra] (46:56):
m

that moving onwards

yeah

we should talk about

[cobra] (47:00):
yeah

oh

i don't know what

m

kind o

m

what

m

kind of podcast do you think would come out of these shows this movie who
who's dropping some hot pods after this

yeah

[cobra] (47:12):
oh

m

[cobra] (47:12):
they're all too self satisfied

m

[cobra] (47:16):
you have to

yeah

[cobra] (47:17):
be bitter and angry like we are to have a podcast

that's fair

do you

i think

i

that

think

[cobra] (47:23):
maybe moncada would have one

possibly

well sure

[cobra] (47:27):
complaining about his dad

sure but like and like he would just he would do nothing he would just
show basically he would talk like it wouldn't be about him

[cobra] (47:34):
yeah

he would be the star of it and it would be his servants who like
sec record him and now that he's dead they have those like secret recordings of
him throughout life they release

[cobra] (47:43):
m

sort of is like a basically

[cobra] (47:46):
like a weird reality

well

[cobra] (47:47):
show

think of murder a murder podcast right

oh

[cobra] (47:50):
oh i see

they

[cobra] (47:51):
a

can

[cobra] (47:51):
true crime

yeah

[cobra] (47:52):
podcast

and they like they can basically

[cobra] (47:53):
yah

can easilly tie him to killing

[cobra] (47:54):
h

his dad because he likes on the record saying chitty things about his dad all
the time around

[cobra] (47:58):
oh

the house because he's a piece of ship son

m

i think

[cobra] (48:02):
yeah

they could definitely

[cobra] (48:03):
yeah

put that together

[cobra] (48:05):
the boncadafiles

hm m

[cobra] (48:07):
that's what they would call

yeah

[cobra] (48:08):
it

m i got one

[cobra] (48:10):
yeah

i think just sorry i had it here i think that a sister brnadebt from
the orphanage she's she's

[cobra] (48:21):
nice

seen some ship and you know it hard to be in you know and that
in that position of authority when you've got so many young minds delinquent and otherwise
across that spectrum

[cobra] (48:35):
ah

um you know to under your charge and so i think her podcast would be
a bit of a release to not only or topics about education and the forming
and shaping of young minds but at the same time i think she would bring
on some different guests and other guests specifically might be other sisters from from

[cobra] (48:55):
ah

the

yeah

orphanage so that they could all use it as a venting mechanism and they wouldn't
publish a single episode because the lord is watching

[cobra] (49:06):
yeah be a

ah

[cobra] (49:09):
patron only podcast now all the proceeds of the patron go

go

[cobra] (49:15):
to

back

[cobra] (49:15):
the church

here you go to the church or

now to

help

the orphanage to the church to cover up

[cobra] (49:18):
no

all

[cobra] (49:19):
the church

the kids they

[cobra] (49:20):
yes of course

fiddled great great job o everybody

oh

[cobra] (49:23):
i think you mean diddle diddle

yeah

diglydigly

whatever

[cobra] (49:26):
they're

filly

[cobra] (49:26):
not

d

[cobra] (49:26):
violins

um

[cobra] (49:27):
sir

i d

[cobra] (49:31):
yeah

all right i like that for them chris

[cobra] (49:33):
i like dad yeah

sister

what do

burnadebt

you so let me ask you this question obviously this movie takes place over days
weeks i can't tell time

yeah

is a flat circle

[cobra] (49:45):
i'm going to say a few weeks

traveling is instantaneous and it's not that they're the only movie has ever done this
but i just love have movies don't bother to show you travel any more

m

it's

[cobra] (49:53):
yeah

great because

m

[cobra] (49:55):
well this this movie doesn't even

yeah

[cobra] (49:56):
show silly climbing the

yeah

[cobra] (49:58):
fucking

yeah

[cobra] (49:59):
chains

and how

[cobra] (50:00):
it shows him

yeah

[cobra] (50:01):
on the beginning of the change and then he was

yeah

[cobra] (50:03):
there was like the

yeah

[cobra] (50:04):
fuckyeah

and how the hell did

yeah

he get down into that into the salt chamber i'm like you used the cheat
code how the funk did you

[cobra] (50:11):
yeah

do that and further more how did chloe

[cobra] (50:13):
no

get

[cobra] (50:13):
clip

the fuck

[cobra] (50:13):
he

out

[cobra] (50:14):
no clipped

you

[cobra] (50:15):
he

know

[cobra] (50:15):
no clipped

i got

yeah

[cobra] (50:16):
definitely

god mode

[cobra] (50:16):
he just went

on

[cobra] (50:17):
down yeah

yeah yeah

so but like what do we think

m

[cobra] (50:22):
ye

the end of it without the cut scenes at the end what do you think
happened like the day or two after this like so they've

hm

gone they try to get this

yeah

treasure none of it happened the ships you know well

[cobra] (50:33):
h

yeah

guess

yeah

[cobra] (50:35):
they're both done

they're both like one ship blow up or

i don't remember

[cobra] (50:39):
on

yeah

[cobra] (50:40):
one like

yeah

[cobra] (50:41):
exploded against the rocks

right

oh

yeah

[cobra] (50:44):
and the other one

sunk

[cobra] (50:45):
sunk

sunk

yeah

[cobra] (50:46):
right

the ship

[cobra] (50:46):
yeah

physics on wood that's hundreds of years old

[cobra] (50:49):
yeah

just

yeah

i love how

[cobra] (50:52):
oh

inconsequential and flexible it is sometimes the little break

[cobra] (50:56):
yeah

on contact other times pick a two anoryear old ship up and fly over the
helicopter perfect consistency

[cobra] (51:01):
yea

nothing happens

[cobra] (51:02):
sometimes

m

[cobra] (51:03):
sometimes two hundred and fifty year old cannon with a single like with just just
as old and as wet powder

hm

[cobra] (51:12):
works and fires at the exact proper time to hit a fucking

it's

[cobra] (51:16):
helicopter

true hunpercen

hm

accurate

lot armor

[cobra] (51:19):
oh

i also

[cobra] (51:20):
oh yeah

enjoyed that five billion dollars with the gold

hm

[cobra] (51:26):
es

as they've quoted it as is not heavy enough to break through the wooden

[cobra] (51:33):
well

ship

[cobra] (51:34):
i think i think

yeah

[cobra] (51:35):
they were counting and this is me being charitable

hm

[cobra] (51:38):
i think they were counting what they

m

[cobra] (51:41):
could get for the boats themselves

i think

[cobra] (51:42):
because

so too

[cobra] (51:43):
it's magellan boats

yeah

[cobra] (51:44):
right so

yeah

[cobra] (51:45):
it's it's like oh it's a historical thing

yeah

but they wouldn't have

[cobra] (51:49):
like

known

[cobra] (51:49):
some

they're

[cobra] (51:49):
collector

going to find

[cobra] (51:50):
with

the

[cobra] (51:50):
it

boats they were finding the gold they didn't know the boat was actually there

[cobra] (51:53):
and

yeah

[cobra] (51:53):
they did mention at least three billion right at least

i

[cobra] (51:56):
once

heard five

[cobra] (51:56):
so

playing

i heard

[cobra] (51:58):
yeah

five at one point two um

[cobra] (52:00):
okay

so

[cobra] (52:01):
yeah that's a lot of that's a lot of gold

okay so let me do a

but

little quick quick math here this vamp while i do this quick math

i think that

[cobra] (52:10):
ah

in the early in the early stages when when sully

[cobra] (52:12):
yeah

was trying to sell

oh

nathan on this adventure

[cobra] (52:15):
oh

he was like

oh

today's

[cobra] (52:16):
oh

like

oh

almost near quote i've almost

[cobra] (52:18):
oh

got the quoting is like today's

oh

currency inflation

[cobra] (52:23):
oh

five billion so he was just estimating but

chris okay by the estimation of five billion that is eighty two let's just rounded
up eighty three thousand

[cobra] (52:32):
yeah

kilograms of gold

m

[cobra] (52:36):
did you did your did your google complete for you because i started typing how
much would five and then billion

yeah

[cobra] (52:42):
dolls of dollars worth of gold be worth

oh no

[cobra] (52:45):
bbwaitlike

i just

[cobra] (52:46):
mine just comp and for me

i just looked up the price of gold and did the math because i'm a
weird person

so ho

[cobra] (52:52):
okay

o o give me the give me the kilogram waihtagain so what is that in
pounds or tons

pounds what you your canadian what have to convert

[cobra] (53:00):
why are you american

for you

no no

[cobra] (53:01):
what's

no no

[cobra] (53:01):
wrong

no no

[cobra] (53:01):
with

no

[cobra] (53:01):
you

no no no no no not currency i meant weight like if you said kilograms

yeah kilograms is the international scientific measurement unit that everybody but the united states uses
to measure weights so i'm

you don't

asking

need to

you

get

why

angry

you need

at

hounds

me

[cobra] (53:17):
ah

forget it as how i i better understand objects in space

multiply eighty three thousand by two point two okay a

we do this like listeners this is this is what you come to us for
i want to know

[cobra] (53:30):
it's weird

slow

it

maths

just did it

it's like

[cobra] (53:33):
okay

a hunder ninety pounds under ninety thousand pounds

[cobra] (53:37):
oh

okay

[cobra] (53:40):
yeah i found one place that's saying that

oh my

yeah

[cobra] (53:42):
a billion dollars

a

[cobra] (53:44):
worth of gold would be twenty tons which means five

oh

[cobra] (53:49):
billion would be a hundred tons

i put eighty

yeah

three thousand kilograms

yeah

to like to convert to tons that's ninety one point five tons and to

[cobra] (53:59):
there

yeah

[cobra] (53:59):
you go so that that makes sense

for me tons go and i go back quite quite a ways because

uh

of marvel trading

[cobra] (54:08):
yah

cards

h

specifically because of martivell trading

[cobra] (54:10):
h

trading cards like

[cobra] (54:11):
yeah

yeah

like

[cobra] (54:12):
yeah

spider man kin ex amount tons the hulk that's why anyway thank

we're

you for

learning

that

way too much about you for listeners

oh

let me give you something that actually makes a little sense to everybody

m

the

[cobra] (54:23):
oh

the weight of an armored car is twenty five thousand pounds

oh

or eleven and a half thousand kilograms so

m

quick mass tells us with some rounding let's call it it's about eight armored cars
giver take gold

[cobra] (54:40):
yeah

on two

uh

boats to say four

uh

armor cars per boat i'm just saying that that might be too much a wait

[cobra] (54:47):
i

yeah

m

[cobra] (54:48):
have i have related question

m

hm

[cobra] (54:51):
how how did they get the nets underneath

hm

[cobra] (54:55):
the boat

oh

that's a good fucking question

[cobra] (54:58):
oh

you saw them digging

yeah so when they go they pulled it

[cobra] (55:02):
yeah

off

[cobra] (55:04):
what they did was they had like eleven billion people there so they lifted the
boat and slid it under come on

oh

[cobra] (55:11):
i was like what the how are they raising this

oh

[cobra] (55:14):
boat

they made it seem like it happened in like i don't know a good

[cobra] (55:17):
yeah

thirty minutes

yeah

to an hour

yeah

that's

yeah

not possible that like

none of that's possible

[cobra] (55:21):
no

i mean

you

if

know

we want

[cobra] (55:23):
yeah

to play what's you know let's okay let's do this i

m

was asking what happened

m

the next day when we

[cobra] (55:27):
yeah

got

yes

side

sir

tracked let me ask the more important question because who gives this ship what happened
the next day

he

what was

[cobra] (55:33):
yes

the dumbest thing that happened in this movie

oh

[cobra] (55:35):
oh man

yeah

[cobra] (55:37):
now

h

[cobra] (55:37):
you're talking

oh

i got one so straight off nathan drake jumping from cargo box to

oh

cargo box while the while the plane

[cobra] (55:47):
yeah

was in flight you can't like i'm i'm no physics

[cobra] (55:50):
don't you know his spider man man his spider man

not in this

man

movie man

[cobra] (55:54):
oh

yeah

like i am no mathematician i am not a physicist

yeah

but i don't see how how a human could generate

[cobra] (56:02):
yeah

enough energy to jump from so super mario from one

uh

mushroom to the next

[cobra] (56:07):
yeah

and then get back on to the plane he like

oh

if there was if there was a rope i would get it

yeah

furthermore

oh

like how

oh

how ere chloe and nathan able to have any sort of conversation

oh

free falling

[cobra] (56:22):
yep

but anyway

oh

[cobra] (56:23):
yeah

those for me stuck out

oh

the most

[cobra] (56:25):
how

oh

[cobra] (56:27):
i'll tack another one to the same scene

r

[cobra] (56:29):
they opened that paris shoot very very late on that fall

i got

[cobra] (56:33):
it

hm

[cobra] (56:33):
would

that feeling

[cobra] (56:34):
not have

to

[cobra] (56:34):
broken

you

[cobra] (56:35):
their fall

no

[cobra] (56:35):
enough

also water is rock

[cobra] (56:37):
yeah

at that speed

[cobra] (56:40):
exactly exactly

and with them

[cobra] (56:41):
you would have they would have exploded

yeah

yep and with them like

[cobra] (56:44):
yeah

clutching on to on

[cobra] (56:46):
yeah

to the object as it hit they should have been like severely injured if not
killed

so

[cobra] (56:51):
exactly

just because we're

my

doing this

[cobra] (56:53):
yeah

and we're going to be

[cobra] (56:54):
oh

asses about cargo plane flies that roughly

oh

nine hundred kilometers per hour or five

[cobra] (57:02):
yeah

hundred sixteen

[cobra] (57:03):
yeah

mile per hour so to chris's point nathan drake had to generate enough force that
he would move faster then

[cobra] (57:12):
well

five

[cobra] (57:13):
he

hundred

[cobra] (57:13):
was

sixty

[cobra] (57:13):
moving

miles

[cobra] (57:14):
with

per

[cobra] (57:14):
the

hour

[cobra] (57:14):
moment he was moving with the momentum of the plane

okay

[cobra] (57:17):
but still

m

[cobra] (57:18):
the moment he jumped up

right

yep

and let's

[cobra] (57:21):
up

go

[cobra] (57:21):
not forward

so

yeah yeah

[cobra] (57:23):
like no it's not even the speed it's the

oh

[cobra] (57:25):
wind the wind would sucking rippin has

m

yeah

[cobra] (57:28):
it's ridiculous

potentially listen

[cobra] (57:30):
yeah

we're not we're not scientists or mathematicians or physicists

right

so we're

now we

we're

are

gonna move on for that

okay

[cobra] (57:37):
yeah

why were the puzzle so like

s

[cobra] (57:41):
dumb

it

[cobra] (57:43):
dumb

they just

[cobra] (57:44):
yeah

never seemed satisfying when they solve one

yea

[cobra] (57:49):
yeah

like okay

yeah

[cobra] (57:51):
yeah

and i know part of it this is not fair for them but part of
it's like we've seen a lot of these you know if you've watched diana

oh

jones if you've watched all the dan brown aslant demons things

[cobra] (58:00):
ah

like the church

national

[cobra] (58:02):
national

treasure

[cobra] (58:02):
treasure

national

[cobra] (58:03):
had better

treasure

right

[cobra] (58:03):
puzzles

yeah it's

[cobra] (58:04):
yeah

always

did

[cobra] (58:05):
yeah

a church and that's

[cobra] (58:06):
my

fun and like you know honestly the tree

hm

thing with the church find clever good

m

job of everybody but then

hm

the whole like heaven and health thing and like going to

[cobra] (58:14):
that was the only part i actually liked that they had to trust like it's
convoluted again like you said it's convoluted

yeah

[cobra] (58:20):
because like okay so i have to trust like what's happening there were eighteen people
they only need

m

[cobra] (58:25):
two

right

[cobra] (58:26):
the funk

so well this is my point right like them solving that

[cobra] (58:29):
yeah

puzzle them figuring

[cobra] (58:31):
right

out the heaven and hell thing in the key and honestly putting the key together
was the

[cobra] (58:34):
ah

most loclester thing i've ever saw i didn't even like really click together he just
held it but it's fine that whole thing just even feel good when they were
done like it wasn't

true

like nice puzzle

[cobra] (58:43):
yeah

cool that

oh

was really core if you found a map on to the next step but she
was like why didn't we go through

ah

all of that

i have the answer

like

[cobra] (58:50):
yeah

i believe i have the answer

yeah okay

the reason why there was no payoff is because from geographically and

oh

[cobra] (59:00):
yeah

like base like sorry the geography and the scenes the way they stitch together like

yeah

for example when nathan and chloe are in what's

yeah

supposedly like the basement or oma the catachomes and then they end up into the
until like

yeah

a sewerage sich piping system and then back into a club that was that that
would

[cobra] (59:21):
yeah

something i could have stomached but sully

[cobra] (59:25):
they had to do it better

they

[cobra] (59:26):
right

needed to do it better but

oh

sully's was weird it's like he full on left the church i felt like

oh

he should have he maybe if he ended up on the roof tops for example

ah

that

yeah

could have been something thing but it was

[cobra] (59:38):
but

a

[cobra] (59:38):
then

weird

[cobra] (59:38):
he wouldn't have ended up at papa john's

yeah

i looked away for like

[cobra] (59:42):
needed the pro replacement

looked away for like

[cobra] (59:44):
yeah

a minute

yeah

cause i was talking to my wife and when i came back i had literally

[cobra] (59:48):
ye

no idea what the fuck was doing outside

see

no

that's

fucking

my point

clue

and then like

[cobra] (59:53):
yeah

he's walking the streets and joe braddock is like oh there he is easy follow

[cobra] (59:57):
m

so

thank you chris

ye

this is a good point

[cobra] (01:00:00):
ye

[_copernicumbledore] (01:00:00):
too easy

[onscreen_aversion] (01:00:01):
joe brack and her gang of idiot tugs they follow them no problem everywhere

yep

all

yep

the time not an issue always

[cobra] (01:00:11):
yeah

the dumb luck

[cobra] (01:00:12):
yeah

like

yep

i thought

[cobra] (01:00:13):
yeah

i thought that they were going to go way far away from where the boat
was when they didn't have the extra piece clue right with solving of the riddle
and honestly i was epectiitwas kind

[cobra] (01:00:24):
ah

of like

ye

luster for them to like

[cobra] (01:00:25):
m

i've got all these postcards as a cypher no he just put it like hidden
writing on one post card like at least make all the postcard

we

matter

[cobra] (01:00:32):
that was the that was the least i was like oh this

yeah

[cobra] (01:00:36):
is going a be fucking cool

yeah

[cobra] (01:00:37):
it's going to be something with the

yeah

[cobra] (01:00:39):
pictures and then he's going a have to match the pictures

yeah

[cobra] (01:00:42):
to the writing it's gonna be and it's just like the stupid fire thing i'm
like come

ah

[cobra] (01:00:47):
on you did this already

yeah

and so but like the thing was like why was it like why did the
last piece of the puzzle just move like they didn't need

[cobra] (01:00:55):
yeah

that last piece of the puzzle they could just looked around and found that fucking
those chips right like they were so close

[cobra] (01:01:00):
well i mean

that the

[cobra] (01:01:02):
yeah that's

oh

[cobra] (01:01:02):
what i was going to say like they were like in the wrong place like

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:05):
braddock

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:06):
and her thugs and and just they

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:08):
just see nathan passing by like

yeah

yeah that was

[cobra] (01:01:11):
two meters

that

[cobra] (01:01:11):
from

was

[cobra] (01:01:11):
them

eft

[cobra] (01:01:12):
that was so stupid yeah

it's very it's very

[cobra] (01:01:16):
to

upsetting

[cobra] (01:01:16):
me

as far as no

[cobra] (01:01:17):
i

payoff

[cobra] (01:01:17):
have

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:17):
a very very very petty

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:19):
one

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:21):
related to the puzzles that you were talking about matt where like the they're using
those crosses kind of like keys right

hm

[cobra] (01:01:31):
and when they get to to when

oh

[cobra] (01:01:35):
sally can talk to them to the grate

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:37):
and it goes like oh it doesn't fit like that's the only place he tries
to use the

yes

[cobra] (01:01:42):
front

no

[cobra] (01:01:43):
of

i

[cobra] (01:01:43):
the

saw

[cobra] (01:01:43):
cross

that and i was like

[cobra] (01:01:45):
i was like what the fuck dude

ah

[cobra] (01:01:47):
try it the other

i

[cobra] (01:01:48):
way you did it in every other situation

i thought she was just like hey idiot turn it around

yeah

right

[cobra] (01:01:53):
that's what i thought too

yeah

[cobra] (01:01:55):
that's the only one it doesn't fit like come on like put it there with
the right

yeah

[cobra] (01:02:01):
side like you always do it make it not turn

yeah

oh

[cobra] (01:02:03):
right

let us let us see your struggle

[cobra] (01:02:06):
i was so mad at that yeah

i think that was like i kind of wish i could

[cobra] (01:02:12):
yeah

have been a fly

yeah

on the wall

oh

during the writing of this movie

[cobra] (01:02:16):
yeah

because once again

[cobra] (01:02:17):
yeah

it's like you know i've given this movie a common rating but in a lot
of ways it's exactly

[cobra] (01:02:25):
it's moving to vendor trash

that and specifically

oh

it's exactly what happened to greenland to the green lantern movie you have so much
source

hm

material that whether you

[cobra] (01:02:36):
yeah

adapt it or you work with

[cobra] (01:02:38):
m

the right people to

[cobra] (01:02:40):
right right

do a proper homage you don't need to be completely accurate but there's something

[cobra] (01:02:46):
ah

that's really you know what this movie is too dumb period

[cobra] (01:02:50):
yes

howe per cent

[cobra] (01:02:51):
yes

too dumb

[cobra] (01:02:52):
it it makes you dumb by watching

yeah

[cobra] (01:02:54):
like i lost i q watching this movie for sure like

oh

[cobra] (01:02:58):
to me i'll tell you and i think

oh

[cobra] (01:03:01):
it's also kind of pedantic probably is but maybe because i had to endure the
rest of the movie before it

m

[cobra] (01:03:10):
but the fact that nathan drake goes like passes in front like waves to

m

[cobra] (01:03:17):
the thugs as he's going to the right place yeah i really like

m

[cobra] (01:03:21):
the fact that he like god wise and sent chloe to the wrong place

yes

[cobra] (01:03:25):
so that's

i appreciated

[cobra] (01:03:25):
fine but then

that

[cobra] (01:03:26):
he goes into he goes into that sort of like nook or like

cavern

[cobra] (01:03:32):
alcove

yeah okay

[cobra] (01:03:33):
cavern and then he's like you know what i'm going

um

[cobra] (01:03:36):
to do i'm just going a jump

yes

[cobra] (01:03:39):
here

yes

[cobra] (01:03:40):
swim under because i'm sure it's

yeah

[cobra] (01:03:42):
not going to be like miles

ye

[cobra] (01:03:44):
and miles of things

oh

[cobra] (01:03:45):
underwater

exactly

[cobra] (01:03:46):
before i get up

oh

[cobra] (01:03:47):
there and then he's like looks out and it wasn't

oh

[cobra] (01:03:50):
it was just a small junk

yeah

[cobra] (01:03:52):
and then there's two fucking boats just there

yeah

[cobra] (01:03:57):
how the fuck did those boats get there

yeah

[cobra] (01:04:00):
and how

oh

[cobra] (01:04:01):
convenient it is that without even knowing that the boats were going to be there
they had the helicopter s already rigged to bring the boats up

oh

[cobra] (01:04:12):
and conveniently there was a hole in the top of the place that nobody knows

yeah

[cobra] (01:04:16):
nobody knew where it was

you've

yeah

gone you've

[cobra] (01:04:18):
nobody

gone

[cobra] (01:04:18):
knew

too

[cobra] (01:04:18):
where

far

[cobra] (01:04:18):
those

lucian

[cobra] (01:04:19):
boats were

you've gone away

you're

too far because

[cobra] (01:04:21):
oh

because

giving

i

them

agree

too much credit

i agree with you that it's dumb

[cobra] (01:04:24):
yeah

that he swims under but like

yeah

as a story writer you're just like what it's fine like you're like it's the
thing

[cobra] (01:04:32):
yeah

the thing where you lose

[cobra] (01:04:33):
yeah

is like i agree ith you that it's done that he just swims

[cobra] (01:04:35):
yeah

and finds it but okay he finds it the helicopters can lift it out that
is purely

[cobra] (01:04:41):
oh

a plot device to have their big ending

[cobra] (01:04:43):
yeah

chase scene and

m

and so

[cobra] (01:04:45):
yeah

it works on the logic of like well we want to pull this out but
i think the bigger

[cobra] (01:04:48):
yeah

plot point that chris pulled up or the story point is the simple one of
how did you put the nets under the boat there's

m

no way

[cobra] (01:04:56):
yeah

you could have done that

m

in the time

ah

[cobra] (01:04:58):
it's what

yeah

[cobra] (01:04:58):
i said

i'm sorry

[cobra] (01:04:59):
but yeah

well i'm

[cobra] (01:04:59):
yeah

givin it to chris

kay

because i don't like you um

oh

[cobra] (01:05:02):
fair

but like

[cobra] (01:05:03):
harsh

fair

[cobra] (01:05:04):
but

yeah

[cobra] (01:05:04):
fair

and so you like i understand all your complaints but they're all wrapped

oh

up into one thing complaint of they were focused on this big ending

[cobra] (01:05:13):
yeah

that made

m

zero sense less

ah

than zero

[cobra] (01:05:16):
no but

sense

[cobra] (01:05:17):
but here's i don't disagree with that but i was mad before even knowing because
remember i'm not i don't know about uncharted

right

[cobra] (01:05:26):
so i believe i remember seeing something

oh

[cobra] (01:05:28):
on trailers or whatever about because it happens

yeah

[cobra] (01:05:31):
on the

they

[cobra] (01:05:31):
game

spoiled

[cobra] (01:05:31):
too right

it they spoiled yeah they spoiled that in them

[cobra] (01:05:33):
yeah

in the trailer too

[cobra] (01:05:34):
but i was like even before i knew that that was going to happen i
was mad i was like okay he didn't

yeah

[cobra] (01:05:39):
know how much it was going to have to swim

hm

[cobra] (01:05:41):
the boats were there

hm

[cobra] (01:05:43):
and nobody knows how they got there

yeah

or how how they

[cobra] (01:05:47):
and

got them

[cobra] (01:05:47):
then

out to

[cobra] (01:05:48):
and then because this was like the combination right

oh

[cobra] (01:05:51):
nobody like

yeah

[cobra] (01:05:52):
like you had met all this puzzles were stupid and they were all like

h

[cobra] (01:05:56):
go

m

[cobra] (01:05:56):
here to find another map to find another map there to find another map there
to use the stupid crosses to make up compass that thing was

oh

[cobra] (01:06:04):
like

oh

[cobra] (01:06:04):
how did he how did he

no

[cobra] (01:06:06):
you know i almost massaged

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:08):
you and

yes

[cobra] (01:06:09):
he did that because that to me

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:11):
had the feeling of the stupid dagger from riselfskywalker

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:15):
it was the

you

[cobra] (01:06:15):
same

have to

[cobra] (01:06:15):
feeling

stand

[cobra] (01:06:16):
i

in

[cobra] (01:06:16):
got

the right spot on the side of the water in order to let the dagger
tell you if it's in the desart if you had been standing

[cobra] (01:06:22):
that

five feet to the left you wouldn't fucking know where anything

[cobra] (01:06:24):
yeah

is

[cobra] (01:06:25):
it's the same thing if he

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:26):
turned the thin

oh

o

[cobra] (01:06:27):
round with the other side

not

[cobra] (01:06:29):
he would have landed in sucking our gentina

a hundred percent

[cobra] (01:06:31):
or whatever

m

[cobra] (01:06:32):
i don't know

m

[cobra] (01:06:33):
but like nobody knew what that thing was but it was he found it that's
fine because he did the math okay and then he went under the bolts were
there dry dry land somehow

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:46):
and it was conveniently open to the sky

yeah

[cobra] (01:06:51):
and the joe whatever her

brad

[cobra] (01:06:54):
face

radack

[cobra] (01:06:54):
is shocked

okay

[cobra] (01:06:56):
the wall

true

[cobra] (01:06:57):
because she knew she could do that too to get in and they all brought
ignifequipment to lift the

oh

[cobra] (01:07:02):
boat i was so mad at that end

m

okay so you've repeated everything you complained of before i said

[cobra] (01:07:07):
ah

why it happened and you

[cobra] (01:07:08):
yes

said it again so you're really mad i get it

[cobra] (01:07:10):
yes

i'm not mad that they brought

[cobra] (01:07:12):
oh

helicopters to be able to lift things because he don't now at they're geting into
and it looks like they bought everything like they said they had pitman on

ah

the ground that is fine that is not a complaint

oh

[cobra] (01:07:21):
it's not fine for me

but it's just like

[cobra] (01:07:22):
okay

it's

[cobra] (01:07:24):
i told you it was

but

[cobra] (01:07:25):
pedantic

the thing is like it it is it in the realm of believeability would they
have bought a lot of equipment because the don't know wether they got to carry

yeah

as i told you eight armored cars worth of gold so they would have brought
things they

[cobra] (01:07:35):
so

could carry a heavy amount of gold

yeah

[cobra] (01:07:37):
agreed

yeah

[cobra] (01:07:38):
agreed to hand per cent

ship tank or thing

[cobra] (01:07:40):
what about the boats why did they bring

because it's

[cobra] (01:07:43):
nat

the pictures

[cobra] (01:07:44):
nat

that's i don't know what the nets are well thats because you could just

[cobra] (01:07:47):
oh

put the but that's actually makes sense you could if you

[cobra] (01:07:50):
yeah

at

oh

the

yeah

gold you just put the gold in the nets and carry

yeah

the nets of gold away that would ave been

especially

perfectly logical

especially if

[cobra] (01:07:56):
because they knew that the place that nobody

m

[cobra] (01:07:58):
knew where it was would have axes from

well

[cobra] (01:08:01):
the

i don't

[cobra] (01:08:02):
top

think

no

they thought they could

no

fly

no

in the top

[cobra] (01:08:03):
oh

sorry chris

correct

go ahead you got this

yeah what i was going to say is the nets alone makes sense because

[cobra] (01:08:09):
ah

when they

[cobra] (01:08:10):
fair that's

when

[cobra] (01:08:11):
fair

they find like i don't think they were planning for a boat i think that
planning for like a deep sea excavation

oh

of like it's probably sunk will need nets to lift like we'll collect the gold
into something if it's not intact

oh

enough and is it that way but the boats

[cobra] (01:08:27):
m

yeah

that was a stretch what i upset about is that the movie got smart got
smart and then got dumb again just that the like

[cobra] (01:08:36):
oh

i

when like

[cobra] (01:08:37):
ah

nathan and chloe are like like catching their breath like they're

[cobra] (01:08:40):
yeah

they're taking like a like they got air b and b and first of all
it got it got smart on two accounts one no sex scene good

[cobra] (01:08:48):
yeah

great like they're working

yeah

to get

[cobra] (01:08:49):
yeah

leave

huge

it alone great thank

yeah

you and then nathan does all

[cobra] (01:08:53):
true

the

ye

does all does a lot of the discovery and research and puts it together fine
and then leads her in the wrong like he gives her a test and she
fails thank you

[cobra] (01:09:02):
yeah

he learns she follows for the

[cobra] (01:09:04):
yeah

trap and he goes on his merry way fine

oh

[cobra] (01:09:07):
ah

and then they still managed to suck it up like one of the one of
the one of the smartest scenes that showed a bit of growth that they just

yeah

threw away

[cobra] (01:09:15):
yeah

after

[cobra] (01:09:16):
yeah the very end is very unsatisfying

m

[cobra] (01:09:19):
they go through all that trouble to find it and it just sucks up they
get away

m

[cobra] (01:09:23):
with like three pieces of things like it's kind of unsatisfying

what

yeah

i

that's

will say to that i'll say real quick to answer the question in terms of
because it also dovetails into what happens the next day that i had to answer
for when you asked it based

yeah

on the like the like six or seven p is that nathan grabbed that's

[cobra] (01:09:40):
ah

pretty much enough to find the next adventure the next

[cobra] (01:09:44):
yeah

hm

excursion

[cobra] (01:09:45):
for

to

[cobra] (01:09:45):
sure

get them

[cobra] (01:09:45):
for

started

[cobra] (01:09:45):
sure

oh

that's all i'll say to that so sorry go

no

ahead

that's good and thank you for coming back to that question

yeah

i asked i

[cobra] (01:09:52):
yah

appreciate you acknowledging the questions i ask on the show someone has to we're going
to move on from how all the stupidest things i think

oh

the the key stupid thing the entire movie is the

m

compass things because it's just so so dumb

[cobra] (01:10:06):
oh

and it

m

makes no sense and wasn't even necessary i don't know why they had it's fun
and how did you get a pscordintat of that they were like round that even
point to an actual point that is pointed in a general area and it was

yeah

not important moving on past it

[cobra] (01:10:19):
uh

we got a script doctor the shit out of this thing um

oh

[cobra] (01:10:22):
h oh man

we haven't left ourselves much time so do our best

high level or what do you think

high level because we do you know let's skip a sequel um

oh

m just skip talking

that

about

makes

[cobra] (01:10:37):
because

the

sense

sequel

[cobra] (01:10:37):
it's coming

yeah

[cobra] (01:10:38):
probably

that makes sense

because i think it's more important to get this movie right

hm

the sequel

[cobra] (01:10:42):
oh

is just you know them on another shady adventure so let's fix this movie so

oh

that

[cobra] (01:10:46):
yes

that the sequel of our our good movie we made in the future so how
what what like how are we fixing this thing

okay

yeah

based

yeah

[cobra] (01:11:00):
yeah

on all right so we're not going to i don't think i think we can
we can leave the

[cobra] (01:11:07):
yeah

oh

somewhat lukewarm sam and and and nathan

oh

opening intact i think that's okay in the

yeah

orphanage we could leave that

yes

i think

but instead of it being the cold opening warm opening

sure

let's just make it flash back truth willie

[cobra] (01:11:26):
yeah

oh

chop it up in the smaller scenes

[cobra] (01:11:27):
okay

do some flash backs

[cobra] (01:11:29):
okay

show why he has this knowledge instead of a whole

h

big scene

m yeah

[cobra] (01:11:33):
and i think so that that kind of dove tails into or nother of tales
but like that links into something i wanted to do

hm

[cobra] (01:11:39):
which is something you mentioned mat which i make nae be more

right

[cobra] (01:11:46):
savy and in the game already

show show me yeah

[cobra] (01:11:50):
show

m

[cobra] (01:11:51):
me right and then as it shows why he knows how to do and why
why he knows what to do y and z

yeah

[cobra] (01:11:57):
he learns from his brother

yeah

[cobra] (01:11:59):
the arfanage

great

that makes sense

[cobra] (01:12:00):
right in the flash backs

because

oh

in in the movie they do the standard and even lowers like this is the
theme from like ocean's

ye

twelve or whatever but

ah

it's like he's just a

ah

pick pocket right and and king sellydisk

[cobra] (01:12:13):
yeah

verse gonna make

m

him more but it's just like now he's like hey translate this book for me
hey do all these things for him and it just has no no connection right
so you're right

yeah

like okay

[cobra] (01:12:21):
yea

he's a pick book but also he's been secretly breaking into shite museums and fucking
new england to like s paintings or something right or like he's been ding

[cobra] (01:12:33):
yeah

his own research

[cobra] (01:12:33):
don't don't show

a

[cobra] (01:12:35):
only the failure

yeah

[cobra] (01:12:36):
which is what

yeah

[cobra] (01:12:36):
they do show them

ah

[cobra] (01:12:38):
getting like doing stuff right

okay

[cobra] (01:12:40):
ah and

go

[cobra] (01:12:41):
all all of that fuel by that that story that sam tells

yeah

[cobra] (01:12:45):
is like oh we're you know descendents

yeah

[cobra] (01:12:49):
of francis drake and that kind of stuff i thought that that was nice i
don't know if it's in

it

[cobra] (01:12:54):
the

is

[cobra] (01:12:54):
game

they still left from entred for

[cobra] (01:12:55):
it's

ah

[cobra] (01:12:58):
damn it

okay

[cobra] (01:12:59):
i'm trying to give this movie some

well

[cobra] (01:13:00):
credit

i mean

yeah

it works in uncharted four because on charter four is all about

[cobra] (01:13:03):
yeah

his brother missing and he comes back in the game like running

yeah

to him he just in the game for a a large portion of it unlike
in

yeah

this movie where he's

[cobra] (01:13:11):
nice

just dead so like they basically use most

[cobra] (01:13:13):
a tool

of

[cobra] (01:13:14):
he's a tool

yeah they use most of the uncharted for story in this movie

[cobra] (01:13:16):
yeah

except they removed like his brother having come back in that emotional way that harris
and so sally

m

does all the work that his brother does in the game the game your always
with the brother and the bother is helping you do stuff and the brother needs
your nathan drake abilities

[cobra] (01:13:31):
yeah

to find the treasure um

hm

and and and sorry yeah soy in the movie place the same character

m

from the video

[cobra] (01:13:40):
got

yeah

[cobra] (01:13:42):
yeah okay

i got something

[cobra] (01:13:43):
yeah

so i agree with

oh

i like what i'm hearing so what do you think of opening like let's say
let's just like like the first arc

yeah

like the first if we if we think of like like chapter one two three
of the movie

[cobra] (01:13:56):
yeah

chapter

okay

one

good

we open with m sully recruiting then but it's a flash back and we jump
into the high scene a lot sooner

or like that so so they haven't established relationship

yeah

when

and

we're going to the magellan boat stuff

yeah yeah

[cobra] (01:14:16):
right

yeah yeah

[cobra] (01:14:17):
where where sally can kind of like okay this this this kid is trust worthy
enough for me to bring him in my lifetime scheme

yeah

[cobra] (01:14:27):
not just bring him in my lifetime came

yeah

[cobra] (01:14:30):
from the first yeah i like

oh

[cobra] (01:14:31):
that

and we still use and i really like the idea of like for each

[cobra] (01:14:37):
oh

kind of task nathan has to do we get

[cobra] (01:14:41):
yeah

we get we get the explanation

oh

based off a flash back

yeah

just like he does

yeah

it so and

yeah

then we that kind of gets allows us to chop the shirtless tom holland thinking
and studying stuff

uh

we don't need that

[cobra] (01:14:55):
and and doing

yeah

[cobra] (01:14:56):
pull ups and in the bunk

muscle

[cobra] (01:14:57):
bed

ups

[cobra] (01:14:58):
or whatever

muscle ups

ackalfanacis

[cobra] (01:15:00):
yeah

number scene at the movie

[cobra] (01:15:02):
oh

galapadakis

um

fron

yeah

i thought i'll take

[cobra] (01:15:07):
uh

it galpin

um it's fair now it's good because i think they would those two would do

[cobra] (01:15:11):
m

a lot better if they had an existent connection versus this antagonistic connection because why
he come on this trip right so now it's like

[cobra] (01:15:17):
yeah

hey you ve always talked about this this your brother's big score thing

yeah

i have you know i found this map right i have a lead on you
want to do it

[cobra] (01:15:28):
yeah

yeah

um and then

[cobra] (01:15:29):
yeah

it's because the whole idea

oh

that like sally let his brother die is just like why what like i done
want emotional stakes in this movie but like our conflict between the protagonist like the
conflict her running away with their map need also conflict between nathan and silly like
there's just there's too much going on in

h

the story line right you're trying

m

carry too much

[cobra] (01:15:50):
yeah

m

[cobra] (01:15:52):
yeah

m yeah

[cobra] (01:15:52):
and while we're at it we need to take away like we can't have all
of them being cock

oh

[cobra] (01:16:00):
like sassy i'm super arrogant chipped

yes

[cobra] (01:16:03):
it doesn't work

i think to that point i think nathan should

yeah

have some talent and he and and we get the flash backs and stuff but
sully to that point sully sales he taking him under his wing nathan independent and
has his own like his own

yeah

personality and so on but it's like

[cobra] (01:16:22):
oh

an apprentice ship a protegee so i

yes

feel like

yeh

[cobra] (01:16:25):
right

nathan should

[cobra] (01:16:25):
right

be like are you sure and then so he's like trust me stick to the
plan something like that like a captain in a number one

and that that ties you back to the video game sally in a much more
meaningful way

because salis a lot

[cobra] (01:16:38):
yeah

smarter in the game

[cobra] (01:16:39):
and that

too sorry go ahead

yeah oh

[cobra] (01:16:41):
and then you can let you know if solis supposed to be the cock sarcastic
guide let him beat that let and let like nathan be a little bit more

m

[cobra] (01:16:51):
idealistic i guess or like wide eyed

m

it's

[cobra] (01:16:54):
if we're making him

m

[cobra] (01:16:55):
younger

yeah

so yeah well in the game selliis

oh

cocky

[cobra] (01:17:00):
the straight

but

[cobra] (01:17:00):
man right

well yes and no he's cocke

[cobra] (01:17:03):
oh

and but he's cocky because

[cobra] (01:17:05):
yeah

he's seasoned right like

yeah

he has the experience

[cobra] (01:17:08):
right

to be cockie

[cobra] (01:17:08):
his

and

[cobra] (01:17:09):
yeah

so nathan

[cobra] (01:17:10):
yeah yeah

drake isn't as coke as he plays in this movie he has some you know
quips and stuff but

[cobra] (01:17:15):
yeah

you know it's you learned the experience from sally you become that

[cobra] (01:17:19):
oh

because you get that experience from sly so if he's young

yeah

he would have a lot less of that he'd have it in certain situations but
he would probably freak

[cobra] (01:17:26):
yeah

out with the

m

plane

[cobra] (01:17:28):
m

situation right or like be like nervous or an talk about it after like that
was fucked up like not as

oh

like

[cobra] (01:17:34):
yeah

yeah that's cool

[cobra] (01:17:35):
yeah

that's what i normally do

i

on a saturday

[cobra] (01:17:36):
i like be realistic

yeah

[cobra] (01:17:37):
you mean

i

okay

[cobra] (01:17:39):
yeah

i have a

[cobra] (01:17:40):
and

go ahead

[cobra] (01:17:41):
and then let let chloe be more of a straight shooter

m

[cobra] (01:17:45):
this in the dynamic

m

[cobra] (01:17:47):
right she's always serious it's always business with her

hm hm

[cobra] (01:17:51):
not like

may

[cobra] (01:17:52):
the whole banter ship

well

[cobra] (01:17:54):
it doesn't

well

[cobra] (01:17:55):
work i guess

i like

[cobra] (01:17:56):
because they don't have chemistry

yeah

[cobra] (01:17:58):
ah

they

if we

have decent

actually

chemistry

yeah yeah

[cobra] (01:18:02):
yeah

and

oh

in the t there's like a bit of a triangle

yeah

that goes on across the series and stuff and between cloy and then another another
character that that shows up eventually but anyways i hear you on that luciano i
have i have a blocker that i need your help with guys

yep

when we're script

yeah

doctoring and that's cool

[cobra] (01:18:22):
yeah

but i'm struggling i'm struggling based on who we cast who we keep who is

yeah

nathan drake

yeah

in this if it's tom holland that works for like the protege kind of thing

oh

but

[cobra] (01:18:38):
ah

like if we for example go with a different slightly older nathan drake someone who's
not as boyish

yeah

right then

m

i'm

[cobra] (01:18:47):
well

not sure how to slit them

[cobra] (01:18:48):
this

in

[cobra] (01:18:49):
is script

yeah

[cobra] (01:18:49):
doctor not script rewriting

yeah

[cobra] (01:18:51):
entirely

i

[cobra] (01:18:52):
right

know but

the way i see chris is where we're filming the movie we have our actors
cast and as

[cobra] (01:18:59):
oh

we

m

film it we realize certain things aren't working

m

and so we try

hm

to slightly adjust them by rewriting large loss of the acts

[cobra] (01:19:06):
yeah

and i

m

only

[cobra] (01:19:07):
yeah

put that to us because i think the having the constraint of you have to
do with the actors

oh

that are

[cobra] (01:19:12):
yeah

picked keeps us from this not being an entire episode on its own

got

let's

it

you know wrap it up

[cobra] (01:19:18):
yeah

in

[cobra] (01:19:19):
that's

ten

[cobra] (01:19:19):
fair

fifteen minutes versus

yeah

an hour because now you're recasting everybody because

got

then

it

you know if you're recasting

[cobra] (01:19:24):
yeah

everybody then you can probably open up the script and just write an entirely new
one which

okay

probably needed to happen

oh

[cobra] (01:19:30):
yeah

but we don't have time to cover that

[cobra] (01:19:32):
oh

okay so we

[cobra] (01:19:34):
i

stick

[cobra] (01:19:34):
think

to it

[cobra] (01:19:35):
on that note i think we have to we would have to in the middle
in the second act where they're going around solving that puzzle we we have to
improve just the pay off not not

oh

[cobra] (01:19:47):
i like that it's to get to the map but that it's too comfy there's
too much built up to now we're going to use these crosses to do this
puzzle and the puzzles are not interesting

yeah

[cobra] (01:20:00):
and the pay off

oh

[cobra] (01:20:01):
is kind of low so i think we have to speed that part up and
make the puzzles more engaging

speed it up i don't i don't disagree with like

[cobra] (01:20:10):
cut some parts

i thought okay

[cobra] (01:20:12):
because it's it's too

yeah

[cobra] (01:20:14):
much those puzzles are too stupid and it takes too long for a very

like

[cobra] (01:20:20):
shifty

you don't

so

[cobra] (01:20:20):
pay

need

[cobra] (01:20:20):
off at least

uh

[cobra] (01:20:21):
in my

the

[cobra] (01:20:21):
opinion

thugs

huh

show up at the club you don't

[cobra] (01:20:24):
yeah

need um sally to fight braddock in papa john's

pa john's placement product placement like this movie had to get funded somehow

[cobra] (01:20:32):
yeah

but

yeah

i love that it was papa as it was such

[cobra] (01:20:35):
i

a break in fucking yeah

[cobra] (01:20:37):
yeah it was funny

ah

[cobra] (01:20:39):
like

yeah

[cobra] (01:20:39):
it's

right

[cobra] (01:20:40):
so completely unexpected it just walks into a papa john's is like fucking what's going
on

the only thing that was

[cobra] (01:20:45):
but

missing going

[cobra] (01:20:46):
i think

sorry it's cool

[cobra] (01:20:48):
just to kind of complete the start

hm

[cobra] (01:20:50):
is i liked the first thing that they did where they turned clockwise instead of
counter

sure

[cobra] (01:20:56):
clockwise and like shot stuff

yeah

[cobra] (01:20:58):
i like i would have liked for it there to have been more

traps

[cobra] (01:21:02):
traps that way

m

[cobra] (01:21:03):
there were

m

[cobra] (01:21:04):
a couple where like oh you go the wrong way there's like some

yeah

[cobra] (01:21:07):
arrows

m

[cobra] (01:21:08):
and the drowning the drowning

yeah

[cobra] (01:21:10):
thing was actually

yeah

[cobra] (01:21:11):
cool the idea

yeah

[cobra] (01:21:12):
of it the whole you have to trust your

sophia

[cobra] (01:21:15):
fellow

should

[cobra] (01:21:15):
man

have saved

[cobra] (01:21:15):
thing

nathan drake not the other way around

true true true

they

true

needed to give asiancy

[cobra] (01:21:20):
okay

to the female character s not just make them side pieces to the men doing
whatever they want like

true to

i guess they gave a little asian

[cobra] (01:21:26):
yeah

c to brad

[cobra] (01:21:26):
i

because

[cobra] (01:21:27):
like

she

[cobra] (01:21:27):
that

murdered

[cobra] (01:21:27):
change

antonio

sam

banderas but that was

oh

just

that

like

too and the father

[cobra] (01:21:32):
yeah

yeah well she did that because antonio told her to do it

m hm

[cobra] (01:21:36):
and and it would have made much more sense because she is used to doing
this ship with sally and nate is the the sort

yes

[cobra] (01:21:44):
of rooke

exactly

[cobra] (01:21:45):
guy right would have made more sense for her to her wits about

this

[cobra] (01:21:49):
her

is

[cobra] (01:21:49):
in

the

[cobra] (01:21:49):
that

problem

[cobra] (01:21:49):
situation

okay

with his characters

[cobra] (01:21:50):
yeah

that he becomes an expert instantaneously without earning it

m m

[cobra] (01:21:54):
on

he

[cobra] (01:21:54):
everything

hm

is

[cobra] (01:21:55):
yeah

the ray of this starward story

[cobra] (01:21:58):
yes

oh

yea

[cobra] (01:21:59):
no more parallels

and the diad is

[cobra] (01:22:03):
is

is

him and

[cobra] (01:22:05):
the

sally

[cobra] (01:22:05):
two of them

oh

[cobra] (01:22:07):
even sadly sure sure

i digress

[cobra] (01:22:09):
yeah

okay

i

[cobra] (01:22:10):
i like that

so

[cobra] (01:22:11):
idea

act

[cobra] (01:22:11):
i like

an

[cobra] (01:22:12):
that idea

act who

[cobra] (01:22:12):
of flipping that

generally needs to end with conflict or like not conflict but like it's like

i

[cobra] (01:22:17):
yeah

another star wars reference

no

but like you know the empire strikes back right so

[cobra] (01:22:21):
the

so

[cobra] (01:22:21):
empire

how do

[cobra] (01:22:21):
strikes

they

[cobra] (01:22:22):
back

so

[cobra] (01:22:22):
yeah

i think it still ends on on sophia is that sophia or is that the
actress's name chloe

chloe

[cobra] (01:22:28):
that's the actress's

okay

[cobra] (01:22:29):
name it's glory

chloe

a

takes the map to antonio pendesa's character because i think being betrayed by her is
a good down

yeah

note

[cobra] (01:22:37):
yeah but i

yeah

[cobra] (01:22:40):
will change two things one i would

yeah

[cobra] (01:22:42):
not have her point the gun and blah blah blah blah blah i would have
her knock him out without him seeing it still in the map running away and
it wasn't that she was already hired by antonio bandaras she goes there

oh

[cobra] (01:23:03):
because she knows she's going to need money for

yea

[cobra] (01:23:07):
the trip and everything and she doesn't have it so she's like this idiot that
you hired is incompetent hire me fire her or something like

m

[cobra] (01:23:15):
that and then he takes it like she's like i like your gumption or something
like that he would do

yeah

[cobra] (01:23:20):
right

m

[cobra] (01:23:22):
something

so she's

[cobra] (01:23:23):
like that instead of it being

yeah

[cobra] (01:23:24):
so like

oh

oh

[cobra] (01:23:25):
it's so again it's so

yeah

[cobra] (01:23:28):
contrived that you would have already been working for him and already wanted to be
trained she's like oh because this movie was like oh she's a nice person but
she's also a dick like you have to pick a lane in that case for
me

humans are

[cobra] (01:23:42):
yeah

can be more complicated than that and i think they fail like we're trying to
fix it now but they failed at explaining to

oh

us as to why she has this dimension

[cobra] (01:23:52):
why

her motive like not

[cobra] (01:23:53):
exactly

a strong of motivation so it's like how do we fix that because like the
because

[cobra] (01:23:58):
it just exists right it has no

m

[cobra] (01:24:00):
reason

yeah

[cobra] (01:24:01):
yeah

and santiago

[cobra] (01:24:03):
oh

hired

yeah

both and actually liked that for santa s like i hired

[cobra] (01:24:08):
yeah

her at the same time as i hired you

okay

because i like to diversify my my portfolio sacco

that is fine but as my wife pointed

[cobra] (01:24:16):
m

out to me

yeah

if he is smart enough to know is dad's going to get away the money
and he's smart enough to hire multiple people he's got to be smart enough to
not get killed like a little bitch

[cobra] (01:24:26):
yeah

by braddock

i agree

[cobra] (01:24:27):
i agree

he should have had like someone

[cobra] (01:24:29):
i

should

[cobra] (01:24:29):
agree

have like i would i would respect the story more if like he had his
loyalists and they got taken out by braddock's crew

sure

but that didn't happen and maybe that's what

[cobra] (01:24:42):
like

we do

[cobra] (01:24:42):
he was expecting he was expecting the betrayal but couldn't

oh

[cobra] (01:24:47):
like he tried to fight it but in the end he didn't

you

[cobra] (01:24:50):
is

overpowered

[cobra] (01:24:50):
that what you're saying

i guess

[cobra] (01:24:51):
like he fought he

yeah

[cobra] (01:24:52):
fought it but then he got over

sure

[cobra] (01:24:54):
yeah like she won

yeah

[cobra] (01:24:55):
in

at

[cobra] (01:24:55):
the

least

yeah

[cobra] (01:24:56):
end i

let

[cobra] (01:24:56):
like

him

[cobra] (01:24:56):
that

know it's gonna

m

let him play it out that he's not an idiot because like and then this
is to go back to chris as

[cobra] (01:25:01):
yeah

thing there's no motive for bradduck to do that like at no point does like

[cobra] (01:25:06):
ah

i mean they try to ply it office like she keeps failing and he like
gets mad at her and

yeah

treats her like a bad employee but

[cobra] (01:25:12):
yeah

it's just like ye but she is bad she is very

yeah

bad at her job

oh

so he's just telling her

[cobra] (01:25:17):
and and she's not even

yeah

[cobra] (01:25:18):
loyal

she he's just telling

[cobra] (01:25:19):
yeah

her she's bad at her job and like

ye

he's a villain so like yeah he's being a dickaboutit but it's just like that's
the motivation is

a

lacking there like if she she did everything she could

[cobra] (01:25:28):
oh

and something really dumb happened then

right

you know

[cobra] (01:25:31):
oh

it would be

i

something

[cobra] (01:25:32):
yeah

that she

see

could be mad about but she just

hm

was bad at her job and let people escape and like

yeah

no

[cobra] (01:25:39):
yeah

i i agree but here's the here's the challenge the additional challenge santiogo was i
don't think santiago was a dick of a boss to her i think he like
giving her chance after chance after chance

exactly

like like it made like the motive want of course

[cobra] (01:25:54):
ah

no motive and to unjustified like

oh

give braddock enough of a motive enough agency to your point to like how swallow
this pill like she just she just plucks him off the board as if he
was nothing like a feather and

[cobra] (01:26:10):
yeah

it made no sense because

yeah

he was kind of good to her he was

yeah

just diversifying he was just hedging his bets

[cobra] (01:26:15):
oh

right

you can't get

[cobra] (01:26:17):
and smart

yeah

[cobra] (01:26:18):
enough

yeah

[cobra] (01:26:20):
right that he hired two people to do the

yeah

[cobra] (01:26:22):
same job

so where does that leave us now okay so we're we're thinking about chapter two
and we have chapter three left

yeah

right then lois steals the thing

yeah

goes back to santiago um i feel like there's so like the map has been
stolen

m

what the

oh

like there's still the keys i feel like the keys and the map should have
been stolen

[cobra] (01:26:47):
yeah

somehow and then like it becomes chase scene like sellin and and and nathan have
to really

oh

use all of their their their abilities to get back on track get stuff back

oh

and try to see if they can pull out a what do

so

you think

so i think there

[cobra] (01:27:05):
ah

is a third

may

clue i think the third clue of the missing clue that his brother told them
i think that's a good

hm

it works

post card

its it's maybe the postcards but it's like it is

sure

a good um it's a good trope that you used often but you know the
national treasure used at i think in every movie they made but like it works
because it's like it's the person being an actual expert

[cobra] (01:27:23):
yeah

versus versus just being

[cobra] (01:27:25):
yeah

shampine and

[cobra] (01:27:28):
lucky

just having a loss of money shnbine antonia mandara

m

tell me the'r

[cobra] (01:27:33):
yeah

diferent characters

m

they're

hm

not

[cobra] (01:27:35):
yeah

yeah

[cobra] (01:27:36):
yeah i like it's like rewarding expert the experts

right

[cobra] (01:27:39):
of the

so

[cobra] (01:27:40):
person like you found this because you're good

yeah

[cobra] (01:27:42):
at

and

[cobra] (01:27:42):
it

so to lucian's point all the post guards create the puzzle or the answer to
the puzzle because

hm

he carries around like let's call him eighteen twenty puzzles

yeah

or twenty postcards

[cobra] (01:27:55):
yeah

he puts

yeah

all those post cards

[cobra] (01:27:56):
yeah

together and somehow they point to the missin peace and so that's

yeah

how they get back

that they're

on track

able

because they know those guys

there you go

are going to the wrong spot but the missing piece and i think in this
case because you want to set up the conflict the missing piece has to be
like a code or key or something else you need to

kay

do when you get to the place

yes

you

[cobra] (01:28:16):
ah

unlock a

yeah

treasure

[cobra] (01:28:17):
right

so that

yeah

means they're both in the same spot

[cobra] (01:28:20):
okay

instead of like it's a different location on the g p s but it just
happens to be like

[cobra] (01:28:25):
ah

you know with the fucking stone throwing distance of braddock and our gang

yeah and that way

[cobra] (01:28:30):
yeah

they're they're

[cobra] (01:28:31):
i like

they're

[cobra] (01:28:31):
that

both they're all on the same collision course and neither can progress without the other

yeah that works

m okay

and then

[cobra] (01:28:42):
yeah

we

i

cut

did not

the weird

[cobra] (01:28:44):
yeah

compass bullshit

[cobra] (01:28:45):
ah m

with the keys

[cobra] (01:28:47):
please

ah

maybe the compass

yeah

is

[cobra] (01:28:50):
yeah

yeah

sorry not the compass maybe the keys are like because they look like solid gold
so maybe they're still

[cobra] (01:28:56):
oh

they once again still need to be used together but not in the fashion that
that was described

[cobra] (01:29:01):
ah

maybe

sure

they just need to fucking go into and unlock some

yeah

ship

yeah

they could have scaled up i think this would have

yeah

been interesting opportunity to scale up the last puzzle like

yeah

like the last puzzle again with location this this this idea

ah

of like trust

[cobra] (01:29:17):
yeah

your fellow man i think would have been a really interesting theme to bring back
like nathan and sully like this is their first mission maybe like if this is
early days maybe but if t were on this this this this island or this
like like the philippines or whatever maybe one person has to go to like top

(01:29:38):
of a mountain and the other person has to go to

[cobra] (01:29:40):
yeah

somewhere on the beach or whatever to respectable distances away from each other and they're
like actually using and co ordinating with their ear pieces to like really give us
that like

oh

race against time

yeah

we have to coordinate and we each have to like they

yeah

have

[cobra] (01:29:56):
yeah

to talk to each other they got to work to work with each other in
the other in the two separate locations that's kind of my thought there

yes

[cobra] (01:30:03):
m

if

yeah

only

[cobra] (01:30:04):
yeah

if the solution to the puzzle isn't

oh

one that requires you to have walkytoxis to talk to each other because

m

there is no way in a

[cobra] (01:30:12):
yeah

billion

m

years that these guys would have set up this and puzzles

[cobra] (01:30:15):
yeah

two hundred years ago and like it's final

[cobra] (01:30:18):
yeah

walk talk as they'll figure it out

[cobra] (01:30:19):
yeah yeah it has to be

oh

[cobra] (01:30:22):
it has to be even like because

ah

[cobra] (01:30:25):
they can talk to each other because it's

yeah

[cobra] (01:30:28):
so far away they absolutely have to trust each other like in a way that

yeah

[cobra] (01:30:32):
let's say if

oh

[cobra] (01:30:33):
one person turns the thing and the

sure

[cobra] (01:30:36):
other one

yeah

[cobra] (01:30:37):
doesn't like when one of them gets gets hurt

they

[cobra] (01:30:40):
or

could

[cobra] (01:30:40):
whatever

the

do

sun

[cobra] (01:30:41):
again

sun aid high noon

[cobra] (01:30:42):
yeah

or it's midnight or it's like

yeah

something that anybody can see visually

that's right

then they have to

[cobra] (01:30:48):
yeah

do and if they don't do it both at the same

[cobra] (01:30:50):
yeah

time then maybe it's like they die or like there's something ominous

[cobra] (01:30:55):
yeah

yeah

we

[cobra] (01:30:57):
yeah

can

[cobra] (01:30:57):
yeah

get that clue

[cobra] (01:30:57):
yeah

we can they can they can infer that based on all the post card

yeah

question clue so like before they like they have their game playing like so wait
a minute sounds like this is going to be a midnight thing well well we
just just got to go and see trust like just just have a little

[cobra] (01:31:12):
ah

faith nathan kind of thing maybe it's like that or maybe the roles have reversed
a little bit because

yeah

nathan is good at puzzles

[cobra] (01:31:18):
oh

and it's like the

[cobra] (01:31:20):
oh

i think this is it m

[cobra] (01:31:23):
another detail that could

yeah

[cobra] (01:31:24):
be

hm

[cobra] (01:31:24):
there is the reason why sam sends all of those post cards with the the
tip isn't because he figured out some like ludicrously impossible puzzle is cause before he
gave the stupid

oh

i

[cobra] (01:31:37):
journal journal to sally

ah

[cobra] (01:31:38):
he took the last pages

all right indiana

right

jones

[cobra] (01:31:41):
pages that tell how to open yeah it works

yeah but we can create something different

m

we don't have to just steal from every other movie

[cobra] (01:31:50):
not that one works

oh

[cobra] (01:31:52):
but sure like

yeah

[cobra] (01:31:53):
i'm just saying like it has to be something that makes sands

hm

[cobra] (01:31:58):
those people would know like if they wanted to go pick up their treasure they
needed

if we're

[cobra] (01:32:03):
to

stealing

[cobra] (01:32:03):
know

from movies

[cobra] (01:32:04):
how to do it

let's steal from

[cobra] (01:32:06):
uh

from iron man three where like his dad sets up like

[cobra] (01:32:10):
yeah

all the all the pieces

[cobra] (01:32:12):
yeah

to make the new element but he can't

m

actually sin this is it right and we don't have to go into the whole
jarvis has been ike you can't make this tony makes in like ten minutes ecause
that's stupid but like

m

his brother

[cobra] (01:32:23):
oh

gives him he's collected all the puzzle pieces but nathan

hm

saw what's the puzzle

yes

get

[cobra] (01:32:29):
yeah

it

[cobra] (01:32:29):
because because sam didn't have

right

[cobra] (01:32:31):
a piece of it

not even

[cobra] (01:32:33):
okay

open to that but i also think this is kind of what's interesting

oh

about a partnership and and what's what's special about sam and nathan and sully and
nathan

oh

is

[cobra] (01:32:42):
yeah

that each person like each whether sam and sully are interchangeable

yeah

whatever but nathan his gift is puzzles or like um i guess you could say
synthesis right

[cobra] (01:32:55):
gotta

so

[cobra] (01:32:55):
gotta

oh

you

[cobra] (01:32:56):
yeah

need you need you need that partnership

yeah

in order to

[cobra] (01:32:58):
ah

progress and

oh

if it's different slightly with sully

yeah

sully is like older and more seasoned cool but the co relation between amon nathan
and sully and nathan is that nathan can

[cobra] (01:33:10):
right

processes his interest his history and figuring things out in that sense

[cobra] (01:33:15):
yeah

m

[cobra] (01:33:17):
it's like they

m

[cobra] (01:33:17):
need the nate factor

yeah

[cobra] (01:33:19):
to solve the puzzle and neither of them

similar

[cobra] (01:33:21):
have it

to national

oh

treasure and nick cages character like he's been on this

[cobra] (01:33:26):
cause he knows so much

correct

[cobra] (01:33:26):
about it yeah yeah

that could be

[cobra] (01:33:29):
okay

his talent slash gift which is so that's okay so e're

yeah

in it now i'm liking where this is going guys so where we're in act
three we're

[cobra] (01:33:36):
yeah

getting pretty close on this i like

yes

it

i think really then you just have to have

[cobra] (01:33:40):
yeah

the final conflict

a

between braddock goons

[cobra] (01:33:42):
yeah

um

hm

and i think you have you have um claudia claudia is that i i just
make

yes

up names for this person

chloe

clo

[cobra] (01:33:51):
cloe

yeah i am making up names cloe um

[cobra] (01:33:54):
yeah

she is basically

[cobra] (01:33:55):
oh

let's say brad kills anton we never decided on that but let's just say she
does after like justifiable conflict she

yeah

captures cloe

[cobra] (01:34:02):
yeah

and chloe s a prison and so they go and

yeah

they save her as part of the final conflict um you know maybe she comes
and they use her as bait to get

my

the treasure

oh

standard wrote answer and then they have to go and get the treasure

[cobra] (01:34:19):
ye

back or do something and that's where the final conflict comes from

[cobra] (01:34:22):
ah

and as long as we're not lifting boats out of places i'm pretty pretty satisfied

[cobra] (01:34:27):
uh

by the conflict

[cobra] (01:34:29):
ah

you know

[cobra] (01:34:30):
yeah

okay go ahead go he

[cobra] (01:34:33):
i was gonna say i don't mind necessarily that the boats exist i just just
has to be in a way that makes sense and the fight can be on
the

yes

[cobra] (01:34:41):
boat somehow

yes

[cobra] (01:34:43):
but just not

yeah

[cobra] (01:34:43):
with them flying around

yes

[cobra] (01:34:45):
helicopter

that's also

yeah

where i was going

[cobra] (01:34:46):
ah

i think the whole i think the final showdown should take place in that cavern
grotto whatever you want to and call it

[cobra] (01:34:55):
like gone style

yes

[cobra] (01:34:56):
right

which would play off of that vibe a little bit and i think it would
give

[cobra] (01:35:01):
ah

a lot more grandeur

oh

to that discovery and everything taking place there like they should have just faking copied
the same gone set piece and that would have like like there's only like c
g i is great

[cobra] (01:35:14):
ah

but there's you can't really there's something to be said about like that that physical
and i

oh

think if they if they pulled that

yeah

off like what i'm really trying

ye

to say is

yeah

leave the extraction of the

yah

gold and the ships for like if the bad guys win let them take care
of that

[cobra] (01:35:34):
yeah

at the end of the movie or

after the

our

credits

post right let the whole thing unfold fucking right in that set piece and give

[cobra] (01:35:42):
ah

us that time to see how everything plays out the only sort of tweak that
i would actually offer to you guys is that chloe let herself get caught because

oh

maybe this gives her more if as to what she really is looking to do
with herself she wants to get to the treasure maybe she's still sided with sally
and nathan anyway i don't know thoughts

i'm here for it you know i think that that that you could you could
add that extra layer

[cobra] (01:36:08):
yeah

and i think that's kind of i think it's one of the story lines in
the video game

m

so i might tie back to the video game better she's getting

m

letting yourself

[cobra] (01:36:14):
oh

get couped she's working

[cobra] (01:36:15):
ah

with them instead of the three way antagonistic relationship that just is a waste of
everyone's time in

m

the movie um

m

so i think that

[cobra] (01:36:22):
yeah

would work and you know i think i think the boats make

[cobra] (01:36:24):
ah

sense but i think you have to have water involved moving a rushing water i'm
not saying they got to be on the ocean but like

waterfall

the boats

or

are

something

on the edge of something and they can fall

o

off or people can fall off so it's like there's a because he you have
the final

m

fight

[cobra] (01:36:36):
m

you just want to you viualywant to tie up all the loosen o the bad
guys right you want get rid of them and so

m

with the way at

m

stage you know basil you have to ask you're asking nathan drake and sully

so

to just shoot everybody in the face and i think

m

it's better if like like what

m

they

[cobra] (01:36:52):
oh

have the boats in the air and he they can knock people off and they
take a lot and they die they just disappear right they want to show any
blood they want to show any gore clearly so the boats are on the

[cobra] (01:37:00):
ah

ledge of water maybe one of

yeah

the boats starts to fall and falls into the water that how they lose one
but giving

m

more danger to to rescuing the gold off the ships

i love that

in the

because

cave they find

[cobra] (01:37:13):
yeah

i love that because i just i was

oh

just been doodling and point blank i can already see like these two these two
boats

[cobra] (01:37:22):
oh

on like some sort of waterfall held together with like two hundred year old like
like ingenuity pillars and

yah

ropes and all that ship and it's still a trap it's also a trap

yeah

so that would be pretty cool

[cobra] (01:37:36):
i was gonna i was gonna say it could be part of what happens when
you opened the place with

m

[cobra] (01:37:42):
the

oh

[cobra] (01:37:42):
last puzzle

oh

[cobra] (01:37:44):
like it causes like it was there was some sort of like something holding that
waterfall

yeah

[cobra] (01:37:48):
like or something like

sea

[cobra] (01:37:49):
that

water

[cobra] (01:37:49):
and then

starts

[cobra] (01:37:49):
it

rushing

[cobra] (01:37:50):
opens

in

[cobra] (01:37:50):
and

yeah

[cobra] (01:37:52):
exactly and now now you have you're

yeah

[cobra] (01:37:54):
on a timer to get the fucking

that's

[cobra] (01:37:56):
goat

right

[cobra] (01:37:56):
out right and then it's all of the conflict solid ones it's

wow

oh

[cobra] (01:38:02):
the timer of the

yeah

[cobra] (01:38:03):
water it's everybody getting together the same place beating their ship out of each other

that's

[cobra] (01:38:08):
yeah

awesome

m

[cobra] (01:38:09):
m

go us

yeah

are we what

[cobra] (01:38:12):
yeah i

are

[cobra] (01:38:12):
like

we

[cobra] (01:38:13):
that

are we missing anything because we've got the pressure of time we've got life and
death we've got a gun fight or or because like that's swat that swash buckling

[cobra] (01:38:23):
yeah

and

yeah

hoist the main anchor stuff was just awful

[cobra] (01:38:30):
oh

like you you could you could

[cobra] (01:38:32):
all of that was awful

if push comes you can probably

oh

sandwich one someone throws a sword because like they're out of something for a

sure

[cobra] (01:38:38):
yeah

minute like

it works if you're not flying through the air and helicopters i think

yeah

it would come off better if it's just being on actual boats and having to
deal with the stuff that's around you and then it's it's justifiable

[cobra] (01:38:49):
ah

that and like you know like that the oldness of the boats come is the
factor and comes into play in a way that's meaningful not hey we just lifted
eight sucking armored vehicles of gold in these sucking ricketold two hunder year old boats
and they are holding up

hm

and until you hit

hm

the someone kicks you into the ledge and then you

[cobra] (01:39:07):
ah

somehow fall off like just

yeah

give me plausible reality

[cobra] (01:39:11):
yeah

okay

here in the scenarios

[cobra] (01:39:13):
ah

yes

[cobra] (01:39:16):
yeah they should still lose most of the treasure

hm

[cobra] (01:39:20):
right

m

yeah sure i mean that's fine then then they're not rich and you can set
up another movie i'm fine with that

[cobra] (01:39:27):
so

m

[cobra] (01:39:27):
yeah on that note i think what would have been good is you know those
franchises where the actual like the main villain you can ever kill him because it's
like a cock roach

santiago is like

oh

[cobra] (01:39:38):
like the not santiago

just he comes back

[cobra] (01:39:42):
i mean

a

[cobra] (01:39:42):
if santieggles

he just gets a bandage around his

[cobra] (01:39:44):
i

neck

[cobra] (01:39:46):
like talking was

yeah

you

[cobra] (01:39:50):
both time see stick on

think

[cobra] (01:39:52):
the eagle

god demi

[cobra] (01:39:53):
like that kind of ship

yeah

hm

[cobra] (01:39:56):
that's mexican

listen

[cobra] (01:39:57):
races but

i

what

don't i used what i had

uh

i apologize

[cobra] (01:40:00):
since mao no i could if if

yeah

[cobra] (01:40:04):
santiago

oh

[cobra] (01:40:04):
survived him i meant braddock in the last fight like they get rid of all
the goons but she's like

yeah

[cobra] (01:40:12):
runs away when she says she's going to lose

yeah

[cobra] (01:40:14):
so she can come back to bother them

ah

i'm

uh

[cobra] (01:40:17):
in the

fine

[cobra] (01:40:17):
second

with

[cobra] (01:40:17):
move

that let her grow sure

um m

[cobra] (01:40:20):
stead of

no

[cobra] (01:40:20):
being

m

[cobra] (01:40:20):
like hit with a sack of gold

i was

like

[cobra] (01:40:22):
in

fine

why

[cobra] (01:40:22):
the

if

does

he

[cobra] (01:40:23):
face

he catch it

[cobra] (01:40:24):
that

oh

[cobra] (01:40:25):
i was gonna say she jumped

yeah

yeah

[cobra] (01:40:27):
to catch it it's so dumb

i found that if you give her more more

[cobra] (01:40:31):
ah

reasons to do things then she's

yeah

fine as a villain to have come back again

[cobra] (01:40:37):
yeah

especially if she's actually good at like treasure hunting instead

yeah

of as awful as she appears to be

uh

[cobra] (01:40:44):
yeah

uh

all right

yeah

good

[cobra] (01:40:46):
i think

job

[cobra] (01:40:46):
we

everybody

[cobra] (01:40:46):
did i think this is it's a much

listen

[cobra] (01:40:48):
better

i'm

[cobra] (01:40:49):
movie

proud of is

[cobra] (01:40:49):
not that

i'm going

[cobra] (01:40:50):
it was

to use

[cobra] (01:40:50):
hard

this to do actual sego

[cobra] (01:40:52):
ah

if you agree with us if you

my

disagree with us if you think there are better things to fix in this movie
if you think this movie is the greatest movie of all time you're wrong one
per

you're

cent

[cobra] (01:41:00):
yeah

wrong

and you

period

you should just stop

[cobra] (01:41:03):
it's just the wrongest

just

real

stop

[cobra] (01:41:04):
you've

watching

[cobra] (01:41:04):
ever

movies

[cobra] (01:41:04):
been eh

talking general

evaluate your life choices

many of them

yeah

[cobra] (01:41:10):
like all new visual entertainment

yeah

[cobra] (01:41:12):
is

no

[cobra] (01:41:12):
not

maybe

[cobra] (01:41:12):
for

you

[cobra] (01:41:13):
you

should

[cobra] (01:41:13):
if

stick

[cobra] (01:41:13):
you

to

[cobra] (01:41:13):
think

audio

[cobra] (01:41:13):
this movie

books

[cobra] (01:41:13):
is good

from now on be

[cobra] (01:41:15):
yeah

that as it may

yeah

please let us know hit us up we're back to

yeah

twitter i guess i don't know it's like it's still

m

there lan's an idiot

[cobra] (01:41:23):
ah

people are still using it

yah

so you can hiss up on twitter at your wrong cast

as

we

[cobra] (01:41:27):
a

do have

[cobra] (01:41:28):
yep

the

yeah

website w w

believe

w

they do

dot

really

ron cast dot c a

twenty three

we got an email address that's how twenty

m

twenty three we are your wrong cast at email dot com

that's right

um

[cobra] (01:41:42):
yeah

those are the three primaries

yeah

let us know let us know

yeah

if spencer would you think spencer would have tought of this movie

[cobra] (01:41:50):
yeah

that

[cobra] (01:41:52):
spencer who would have either i absolutely loved it and just ate up

oh

[cobra] (01:41:57):
the whole in charted thing or he would be like a matrix for thing where
he was like within an inch of taking

oh

[cobra] (01:42:03):
his life away one of the other

he would have hated i'm sure

yeah

[cobra] (01:42:08):
oh

i adored the

[cobra] (01:42:11):
ah

game series and so i totally

oh

feel let down by what

fun

they've served up

really fun game is highly recommended to the first one that may have on aged
twelve but if you can get your hands on like four or like there's a
there's a collection

[cobra] (01:42:21):
yeah

they rely on p c since you hate

true

play station check that out definitely definitely worth it

[cobra] (01:42:26):
yeah i was definitely play for i think it's on my wish

yeah

[cobra] (01:42:28):
list anyway so

it's old

[cobra] (01:42:29):
yeah

so you should be able to find it pretty easily for now

now

i am

[cobra] (01:42:33):
yeah

matt

[cobra] (01:42:36):
i am the man called luciano

am not spencer and apparently uncharted two began production this year and the sequel is
apparently supposed to hit in twenty twenty five so we'll see if they

[cobra] (01:42:46):
yeah

take any ideas from what we've offered up and learned there m lesson yeah

[cobra] (01:42:52):
yeah

yeah

yeah

[cobra] (01:42:56):
yeah

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