May 13, 2025 • 42 mins
- Who said no to the baby name?
- Eshay For Usher Tickets
- Connie from Sneaky Sound System Joins The Show
- Freedom!
- Podcast Shakeup
- Make My Day
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
A long time ago, in a lab, far far away,
a science experiment went horribly wrong. Out of that Disney
rolls Zach and.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Have you ever felt like this like James happened when Kiss?
This is Zack andn You know, I've worked with Zach
for ten years, over ten years now. I thought there
was nothing left that could surprise me. But just moments
before the show started, he tells me about a run
in he's just had recently with former Australian Idol judge
(01:05):
Ian Dicko Dixon.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, you have taken this. You think this is the
than what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's massive. You read into you need.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
To talk about this on the radio.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You read into Digo in the Wild.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
To watch my live show of the weekend, my podcast
Every Animal Ever. We had a live show. Dicko wanted
to He kind of has a little history with my
co host Caesar and he wanted to come watch the show.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And did Dicko sit in the audience and make harsh
comments that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He's actually very lovely, I really said very complimentary things. Actually,
to be honest, I might have lived your dream. Dicko said,
well done. I enjoyed that is that? Is that something
that you had dreams about before?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Mark Holden starts swinging his arm after that, that's legitimately
heaven to me, that's incredible. We'll lovely to hear that
Dicko is doing well.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Zak.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Speaking of Australian music icons, coming up on the show tonight,
before we hit nine o'clock, Connie from Sneaky sound System
is going to join us.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yes, and they have a song I saw a UFO.
No one believes me that happened to you recently on
the show? Are you cool if we bring that up
with a why.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Would you ask? If I'm cool with that? Do you
think it's a source sport spot for me?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That yeah, a little bit, because you seem to get
a little embarrassed when everyone told you that it was
just starlink.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, to be fair in my defense, before I knew
what starlink looked like, it was a sort of spooky
sequence of dots in the sky.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Also, before nine o'clock tonight, will we give away the
Usher tickets?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I reckon that's a good call. Yes, we have an
entire row of tickets to go and see Usher when
Usher is touring next year, Usha presents Past, Present, Future
Live in Australia for the first time in fourteen years,
performing all the hits across his thirty year career. For tickets,
you can go to livenation dot com dot au if
you would like an entire row of tickets, not one,
(02:51):
not two, but six tickets to go and see Usher.
Stick around. I reckon, we'll do that in the next
half hour. ZAC. So this is a good time to
get on the phone with your friends, get in the
group chat, say everyone free to go see Usher.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm about to win us an entire row together. This
is second off who said no to the baby name?
Who had a problem with it? You know, you come
out with a baby name. Maybe your partner said no,
you're not doing that one and the baby never got
named that, or maybe you named your kid. I think
sometimes it's a parent thing or an in laws thing
and they make a funny face really or they.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Say, oh really, well I don't have kids. I mean
you've got a couple. But this story has come out
of a list of band names that's been released. So
this is basically when the government says No.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
The are the ones that you're not allowed to buy law.
Now obviously religious kind of titles, so you can't be bishop,
for example, you can't be the Dalai Lama.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
There's also like military ones.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You can't be a rank, yeah, like commander or something
like that, captain the mission.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The interesting one is that you can't be Commodore, which
at first I thought was like that you can't be
the car name, but no, it's because of the military title.
So you can be Ford, but you can't be Commodore.
That's a little unfair.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Now here's a few weird ones on here, like why
can't you be Harry Potter?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Was interesting? And the other name that I thought ned Kelly,
Like they're just names, why can't you be them?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
There would have to be some Ned Kelly's out there,
so you would think so.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Because it's not that you can't be Harry first name Potter,
last name, is that you can't be first named Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You also can't be called Facebook. That's a band name
for some reason, Australia. I mean, why can't you call
your kids Sydney but not Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, why we like to call our children about cities
of Australia, but not actually the country itself.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
How about this one? Because of the I guess this
is an official title. You can't be Barren. Yeah, Trump's
kid named Baron differently. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Not the first time Trump hasn't followed the law though,
Let's be honest. But it is interesting, mate, because you've
got two kids. So I want you to take me
into this, like you and your wife Sarah, when you
came to naming your two kids, was it like a
brainstorming session? Did you have a pot of coffee and
a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's over a long period of time because I'm not
sure if you're aware of this, but you kind of
get a head's up that you've got to have a baby.
There's a few months to prepare.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm aware of this, but like, is it you know
who mentions the name first? Are you constantly came up.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
With both of ours? Really, and we had them ready
and they're slightly unusual names. Peaches as our little girl
and Finch as our boy, and so Finch was second.
And when I said that to my parents after having Peaches, yeah,
he said, well, we did think it was going to
be unusual, right, So they doesn't say no, but they
did express that they were like, oh, yeah, that's a
(05:48):
bit unusual.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Because everyone has an opinion on her name, don't they can.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I remember my grandma laughing and laughing and laughing at
the name Willow. Really yes, She's like, it's it's a tree.
And I'm like, there's lots of names that, like Olive
is considered a classic name, but that's just a fruit.
What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, but people get really picky or maybe they once
met someone with that name it they hated, and so
they can't you know, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think a lot of it is generational. Yeah, each
generation gets one hundred names that they think are the
only ones you're allowed, and if it's anything outside of that,
then you know, it's not cool.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I remember my brother and his wife they called their
daughter Scotland Scottie. For sure, it is her name, and
I remember that's not on the list. No, Scotland. Australia's banned,
but not Scotland Scotland.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
If you could call your kid Australia or not Scotland.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's a good question. But I know at the time
they were worried about this. They were worried that some
people might go, what do you mean you can't call.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Your kid that? Has anything come up?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So far we've been okay, but they haven't been to
Scotland with it. I mean maybe that'd be the risk, right,
you take her down the streets of editor.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Surely you just call it Scotty though.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Possibly, yeah, I don't know. Maybe look third in one
six five who said no to the name because apparently
this is such a divisive issue, what you're going to
name your kid? Apparently also it's something that everyone thinks
that they were allowed to have it their own two
cents on one of the names on this band list
of Natala, Natella is bad.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, apparently, but no veggie might so you can't have
a little veggie but not a nuddy.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Why isn't it Why isn't it Tellaband?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I don't know, little Ella, that's a cute.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, even Teller, Hey Teller, come over here. I mean,
I reckon, I don't know there's any good reason why
to tell as band or maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's something to do with nut allergies, you think, so,
yes can't have any nut products in schools. Sorry, Natella,
you gotta sit out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Look, they're in one day six Fife who said no
to the name Kimberly in Brisbane?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yes, how are you fellas.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Who said no to the name? What did she say? Ah?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
So she said, my daughter's name sounded like a Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Now what was the name?
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Her name is Arabella?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Wait hang on, so you had already named her that
and your mum.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Still it was on the list and it was down
to two and she said that I found out after
I had named her that She's told said it sounded
like a dairy cow's name.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Dairy cow Arabella. I mean, did she come around your mum, Kimberly?
Speaker 6 (08:18):
She says she couldn't think of a better name for her.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
It's not really saying anything.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean, Arabella is not that uncommon a name. I reckon.
I've heard of Arabella's out there.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And is it Bella for sure?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I reckon so or Arrah? I mean they're both good.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean it's not a it.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They'd be dairy cow names that are more clear than Arabella.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Why is it connection to cows? Like if you call
your kid milky, I guess that's hey, Kimberly, what's the
connection to dairy cows.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Well, what's funny is I took her to the Echo
when she was about eight or nine, and we're in
the cow pavilions. There's actually a prize winning dairy farm
called Arabella's Cow.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Ye, maybe she knew about the farm.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You gotta know your dairy farm's out there, I guess,
don't she Probably don't call your kid after any sort
of meat or dairy manufacturing facility.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, I just think it's probably not a name you're
going to love long term. Well you think it is,
you like it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
My third kid is going to be called craft. Middle
name singles.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We're asking a thirty one six month who said no
to the name Claire. Your husband wanted a name for
your kid, but you said no, What was the name?
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I did? It seemed quite mild as well, But the
name was Nora.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, what's wrong with Nora?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
I apologies to all the Nora's out there, but I
am not birthing a ninety year old. He wanted this
name because it's aaron felt backwards.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Ah, that's interesting, Yeah, but Claire, I mean, all names
come back around.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Nora one hundred percent will have a resurrection in the
next decade. Or two.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
It may now put it out there for the universe.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Old names are in if you look at the role
call of like a daycare class at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, it could have been a retirement home. Yes, ten
years ago. A lot of Beverly's.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
There are some Beverly's. Beverly's coming back.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You have not met a baby Beverly.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I personally haven't met one directly, but I have heard
the name is back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's all those old names are bout, literally all of them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm going to see a toddler and say, get over here,
bitv Bevy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, that's very Australian Bevy.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I yes, So Riley in Melbourn, I'm thirty one, six five.
You had a name picked out for the kid and
the entire family said no.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Riley, absolutely everyone said no to it, and I fell
in love with it. So I was heartbroken.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
What was it Calliope? Now? Have you made that up?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I kind of cross Kelly and Penalopee, so I.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Kind of together across section name that You're going to
need to give it to me again.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm not sure I've followed what you said.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
What's the name Calliope?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And you went across, you went away from it, Riley,
you didn't commit to it, yes.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Because everybody kept on calling her Kaleidoscope.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So what did you go in the end? What name
did you choose instead?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Hollow Ray?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I mean similarly creative? What what was it? Hollow Ray, HaLow,
hallow Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's a normal name, hallow Ray, yeah yeah, and then
apostrophe Ray.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, that's a common name.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Hallo Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm not saying it's a common name since you're.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Saying hello Ray. And my auntie's called Bev and my
uncle's called Ray. So we're talking about Beverly a minute ago.
Now I'm saying hello Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
They're all coming back.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't know if they are.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They are. It's all contextual. The names that feel old
and the names that feel young. It's just what you're
used to. Because now that's during Rachel's, Machell Sarah's. That's
the new old names.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, not speaking. Yeah, how far are we away from
Zach being the name that an old man has?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, I guess like forty years until I'm an old man.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, true, mate, and then I know, give another forty
after that, and anyone's calling the kid Zack's again. So
maybe what you gotta do is just beat the wave,
beat the girl.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You honestly could do that if you wanted a trendy,
forward thinking name. Yes, just look at maybe what do
you think thirty years ago?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
About that? What was an old person's name thirty years ago?
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Speaker 3 (12:54):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
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Speaker 3 (13:18):
We have a resident Shay in studio to sing a
Shay version I guess like an Australian Yeah, train station
version of an Usher song. If you can pick what
the song is, you win the ticket.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's that simple. You and five friends heading along. We've
got Megan in Melbourne on thirteen one O six five.
How's how goods your back catalog knowledge of Usher? Megan?
I'm hoping it's really good. Yeah, all right, what about
your knowledge of esh a language? Is that pretty strong too?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Probably better than all right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
There, All right, here we go. You're gonna hear the
song and afterwards, if you can tell us what it is,
they're all yours.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Lad, there's always the one person that makes tracks with
your heart. I never see you coming because you're blonded
from the start, Lad, baby not did you're the one
for me? It's good for all the boys to see. Bruh,
you've always been my boo?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
What do you think, Megan?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Oh no, is it my boot?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is it my boo? Of course it is. They're all
yours Megan. Congratulations. Have we got all six people in
the car with you? I think we've Magan.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Who's with you right now? Are they who's got to
come to Usher with you?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I've got my essay?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh well, I mean I love the celebration in the background, Megan.
The six tickets to go and see Usher's past, present,
future to are all yours on us. Maybe you could
dress up as essays for the night. He really live
into the way. You've got the tickets? Yes, yeah, I
mean I feel like what was happening when Megan is
right now is slight chaos?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I hope just by coincidence, there were just six people there.
Can you imagine if there were seven and everyone's going
off and you're actually, like Doug, you're not coming. Zach
and Tom podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Zach a bit of a music royalty joining the show now. Yes,
Connie Mitchell from Sneaky sound System, you like the intro? Connie?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I just loved that. That was an awesome bashup.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I imagine you've been introduced many ways over the journey.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Is that a top ranking intro listen?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
That's going to be a highlight for sure?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, look, Connie, it was only what a month or
two ago that that you guys released your most recent
new music. Tell Us about this, tell Us about sh.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Well, she was basically a love song. You know, how
could we not have another love song? Because love songs
are pretty beautiful, aren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, I hard to argue with, and especially in your band,
I mean, Zach and I. We've obviously been loving Sneaky
sound System for a couple of decades now, but we
only just learned that the two people in Sneaky sound
System are actually married to each other.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What's that like, Connie, Does that cause some complications or
is it much easier than.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Having other You know what I think? Because we're just
so incredibly lucky to be out making music, playing music,
traveling the world. How could you not be happy or
in this mindset to have an argument about anything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's a good point. You kind of are the Aussie
Yvonne Traps in a sense, aren't you.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I love that. Oh, we're a little bit Connie.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You're going to have to explain that reference.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But it's the sound of music family, and you said
that as a compliment. You know, the traveling musical family
from the sound of music from the nineteen sixties. Mate,
everyone you know the sound of music, Connie, I.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Do know the sound of music. I watched every Christmas.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, the sneaky sound of music.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I had a bit of a crush on Captain Trap.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I had the same on Julie Andrews, and I was
when I was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The nun Did you have a nun thing? Just her?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I didn't have a nun thing, Mate, She's graceful in
the sound of music, It's.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Very graceful, like honestly, a proper lady.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Proper lady, and you see her perform at the Oscars
these days, they still wheel her out every now and then,
and she's still she still got it, Connie. She's as
graceful as.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She ever was. Speaking of all the big names, Connie,
you've lent your vocals to some big artists over the years,
Jay Z Snoop Dogg comes to mind. What was something?
What's the what's the collaboration that blows your mind the most?
The one that when you heard how it sounded on
the airwaves, you're kind of like, WHOA, I can't believe
that's me.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think the Kanye stuff because that was two albums
that was pretty and it was just everywhere. It was
all over the world. It was on movies, it was like,
that was pretty massive.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's how does Kanye West reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Is it an Instagram? DM? Is it one age? Seriously,
you mustn't think that it's real at first?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, No, it's like, Yo, want to come to Japan?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Wow? And and and what do you go back with
because obviously you want to play it cool with someone
like that. What do you what's your immediate reply on tour?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Because we are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So you go on tour and then what there's a
bit of back and forth before you sign the dotted.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Line bit of ajiji.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, you got to take it out of the DMS.
I think in into the lawyer's hands, don't you some
official contracts?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Yeah, I think the word official was a good word.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well, I'm pretty sure Connie, am I right in saying
this year is the twenty year anniversary of Sneaky Sound
Systems Formation?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Oh? Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, one of the biggest songs from around that time
was I saw a UFO and no one believes me.
That happened to Dom recently. Actually he saw a UFO
and no one believes him.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, you like next time aut
There was there an.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Experience that you had that inspired that? Or was that
just a party anthem?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I was in like art and I last about thirty
minutes of time, and I looked up on the sky
and saw the three lights that went off in random
directions way too quickly, just like up and down at
right angles, making squares. And I had this kind of sound,
like like a giant barrel kind of moving around my head.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And what immediately you were like, get me the notepad,
I've got the next hit.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Well, I mean everyone was like, where have you been?
I mean only I just went to put some underpants
on the line, so I should have been that long.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Obviously a husband angers who was just your music partner
at the time, did he believe you?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
No, no one. I mean the song doesn't lie.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
No, it doesn't at all. These years on, are you
still pretty adamant that you saw aliens?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Now, let's be clear here, a UFO and aliens are different.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. I didn't see anyone driving
said vehicle. Yeah, I just heard and saw.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, I saw something weird, some weird weird.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It feels right. I think Connie having sneaky sound system
new music on the show. We are loving it on Kiss.
Thank you so much. Good for the song and thanks
for joining us on the show. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Oh, pleasure, pleasure. I love the way you say my name.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Am I getting it wrong? No?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
It sounds really good.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
How do you say it?
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Well, I like the way you say it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm saying, Connie, I know it's good.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Give it another shot, Connie.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean, if you want I'm happy to tour with
you guys and announce you on stage every night.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I love that. I always wanted that. I always wanted
what I'll.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Do, Connie, I'll hide sight a stage and gentlemen, Yes,
ladies and gentlemen, please welcome sneaky sound system, Angus McDonald
and Connie Mitchell.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Oh drop it, Oh my dreams are coming through.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'll pack the bag now.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Connie, thanks so much for joining the show.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Pleasure.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
This is Zack and Tom.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We're letting Dom's ideas run wild.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
This is free Dom.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
This is the portion of the show where Dom can
do whatever he wants. No one can stop him, not me,
not producer Claire. It's just straight off Dom's dome onto
the airwaves, and it doesn't matter how bad the idea is. Often,
actually the bad ones are the ones that get through.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't like you setting the context immediately that it's
going to be bad, because someone might have just tuned
into the Zach and Dom show for the very first
time and thought, oh, this sounds like a little bit
of fun, and now you've given them a preconception that
it's going to be bad. It could be wonderful, mate.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I thought you would have liked the bar to be low.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, no, no, set the bars high. You'd like skyhigh, mate,
because we're going to reach it. Because you know what
I was thinking, You know me, I'm always trying to
get in the mind of the people listening to this show.
You right now, wherever you are, whatever you're up to.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can we cut the next three minutes and you just
tell us what the show? No idea is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We need this like you live. I like to imagine
what people are doing as they're listening. What are they
up to, where are they, who are they with, and
how are they feeling? What sort of a day has
it been? So far from them? I like to imagine
all these questions, all these thoughts get in the mind
of the listener. And then I thought, just today, I thought,
what about the age of the listener? Because you know,
this country is full of diverse ages. I wonder what
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sort of people are listening to our show. And then
another thought hit me. I mean, you get in the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't want any commentary on your thoughts. That's where
it gets really boring.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I agreed to disagree. The next thought was, what's
the oldest listener we would have on this show because
you know here we are on Kiss FM. It's a
contemporary station. We specialize in the twenty five to forty
year old demographic.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Contemporary station. Yeah, I mean, is this media wise?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Well? I was just wondering, because they'd be there'd be
some really cool old people who I reckon would listen
to to Kiss who'd love this music mix.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I you can't use this as a way to meet
Grannie because I know you have a little bit of
a thing for older people.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Don't have a shit, I don't have a think for
older people. And you need to stop saying that on
the show because people I'm in my.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Let's look at the evidence. No, people, people who are
cool and old to call the show, maybe leave your number.
What are you doing this weekend?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
People in my life who listen to us are starting
to believe that I might actually have a granny thing
because of what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I didn't get it from nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just have friends who are elderly. It's that simple.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
And you said that you were open to it.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well with one of them. Yeah, but that's that's a
unique case. Look, they're in one o six side. What
I want to know is what's the oldest listener we
have on the show?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
If you're listening to this right now, and I don't
know where to set the benchmark, Zach, we probably should
set it around fifty. I reckon if you're older than
fifty thirteen one oh six five, fifty that's way too young.
If you're older than sixty, definitely call. If you're older
than seventy, If anyone older than seventy is listening, thirteen
one oh six five, we would love so much to
hear from you. That would be That would make my night, mate,
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I'm sure it would maybe stop it.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Can you promise you're not going to hit on the caller?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't. The problem is it's one of these situations
where the more you realize I promise, why won't you
promise not to hit on the callers?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It sounds like you really want to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The more I deny this, the more as it's like
I have a graddy thing that makes things really are't
I promise you I won't hit on the callers, and
I don't have a grady thing. Look thirteen one oh
six five. I want to find the oldest listener we
have to the show. Right now, And I know you
might be sitting there thinking, Hey, I'm fifty four. I
could call up, but I don't want them to say
I'm the oldest listener. That's going to be a horrible
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day if I find out I'm the oldest listener.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No flaw in the segment.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Totally other way around. That means you're the coolest person
of your demographic. That's what we're learning about you. Yeah, okay,
So look thirteen one o six five, Mark, how old
are you? Mate?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Forty eight?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Forty eight, forty eight?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, I would still say that's a with a snap
of mine.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, you still feel young, Mark?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
No, actually not after a date that Fashion Week, I
feel old.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
To be honest with you, fashion week will do that
to you.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
To be honest, though, I feel like if you're at
Fashion Week at twenty four, you probably feel old.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't call it a big laugh,
you go a little chuckle from a little chuckle. We'll
go to Tracy on thirteen one O six five. We're
trying to find the oldest listener to the show at
the moment. How old dare you? Tracy?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I am sixty five, sixty five.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Getting we're getting up in the ages a little bit.
Are you eligible for the pension, Tracy?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I know, because I've worked full time, I'm not eligible.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And the retirement age now, Tracy, is it sixty five?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I haven't looked into it. Yeah, I'm still loving it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Yeah, I'm teacher.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Kids keep me young like the young ones.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
The energy, I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Now my memory of the eldest teacher at my school,
I reckon they had to be over seventy.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah. Do you think we certainly had a few over
seventies there too at my school. I don't think that
makes sense? What having some teacher? I mean, that's when
they've got so much wisdom to pass on. The elder
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What do you think I had no idea saying what
you're referring to.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'm saying. I mean, for thousands of years, the elder
in the village in their last you know, a couple
of decades of life. I said that carefully would be
the stage where they would teach the young'ins. I think
that the teaching force should be mostly seventy plus in it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Some communities try to get rid of the elderly because
they were a burden.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I don't think that's true. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Is there any truth to that? Well, there's a story
about the putting them on the ice. We've had that, No,
I have not.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I think that one the elderly are calling this is
not the time for whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I remember watching a movie about it. It probably was fiction.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think it was fiction. Normally, as you aged, you
grew into your most important role in the village of
the village elder.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Right. Yeah, you know so in times where chopping wood,
collecting food, everyone could.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Do that, but the village elders would be the council
whod make the decisions for the village.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Everyone else has to go shop my wood, get my food.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, sounds like what we do now.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It feels like all the older generations are making all
the decisions for the younger people.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ah bit of satire. I like it. Look thirty one
six five, we're trying to find our oldest listener, Deb,
not thirty in one a six five? What's your age? Deb? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Hi, I have to think about it and work it out.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
But I'm sixty six turning sixty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh well, dev I think Claire, did you have some
theme music for the what's this segment?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I mean, why why are we playing that?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think it's just the electric mood that's in the air.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Shut up? Are you single? Deb Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh I'm in the ring to it.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What do you think about a thirty one year old dead?
Would you be happening to it?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Look it?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
What all depends?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'd have to really think very very strongly about that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, No, I get that old soul. Yeah I am
an old So what's your ideal day?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Maybe steam down a mountain or scuba diving?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Is Antarctic?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
That would be great.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's on the bucket lift nice.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Actually looks that's too adventurous for dom.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I was hoping you'd say a high t.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, that's what I was going for. You don't really
like skiing and stuft ear.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, not for me. Not for me. I genuinely like
a nice lie down in a book. Thirty one day,
six fibers to try to find our oldest listener. I
think this might be Charles in Sydney. How old are you?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Charles seventy six?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Seventy six? You don't sound like it?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh no, I still work.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh, what do you do for a job, chus.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Look after a sex club?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, what did you say?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I look after a sex club?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
A sex club? I thought I heard that just making
sure and Charles having.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
What do you mean you look after a six club?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You're the manager sort of make sure it opens, make
sure it shows.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's a kind of a very cryptic yeah, answer.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Street it's a gag place.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Okay, Well, Charles, I'm curious. I mean, normally when people aged,
they might they might tune into the AM band, get
political opinions. What's kept you over here with us into
your seventies?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I don't watch TV and I just listened to Young
and my partner's only so united. No, I actually don't. Yeah,
I don't know. Just go out all the time. All
my friends are young and their forties.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well do you Charles will welcome on board. I think
we've successfully proven that we found our oldest listener seventy six.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
A wider array.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah. That's it, mate, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And that's what you wanted, wasn't it you wanted, yeah,
to see the breadth of our listeners, the listenership.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Mate, We have you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Almost got a date with Debbie. We heard that Charles
who opens and shuts the seconds. Not really sure what
that role is.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
We've been I mean it's been an inter assumed. It
says a big stuff on the show tonight. If you're
listening to the Zach and Dom podcast, I mean, look,
whatever you're doing, however you're spending your evening at the moment,
we're gonna need you to sort of put a pause
on that and gather around the radio. Right now, Zach,
we have come across on your phone. I don't know
(31:29):
if it's a glitch, if it's an advanced trial of
a new feature on Spotify, but this could change everything.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I noticed this yesterday actually, and everyone I've shown in
the media has had their eyes glued to it because
it's been a thing for a long time that you
don't know how many listeners, how many downloads O the
podcasts are getting, Yes, because they don't displaym on YouTube.
You see hits on Instagram, on Facebook, you see how
many views things are getting. Podcasts you don't. And then
(31:57):
I opened my Spotify just yesterday and all the podcasts
had numbers next to them for plays. Unbelievable, and I
thought it was just a few, but then I started
searching others. Every single pot cast that's on Spotify is
displaying a number next to it indicating how many plays
it has. I don't know if this is a like
(32:18):
early rollout, because you know they roll out features in waves, yes, yeah,
or this is some type of glitch. I don't think
it's a glitch. I imagine it's going to come out
in waves, and therefore everyone is going to get it,
and when they do, this is going to be big news.
It's massive. Some are bigger than I expected. There are
also a lot the smaller than I expected.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Now I've checked my Spotify the features not there produce
a clearest checked as well, it's not there either. And
so you're the only one that you know, certainly that
we know of who right now it's like you are
the keys to the media landscape.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Well, if you have Spotify, you can check for yourself,
because yeah, you might be one that has the advanced
kind of feature. But it's quite interesting, don because like
you know, Joe Rogan considered the biggest in the world.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Would you say, oh, it's definitely the biggest podcast in
the world.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It seems on average they get about five million ish,
maybe a little bit more. His Elon Musk one he
did recently is on eighteen million, and the Trump one
is around thirty million.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's actually weirdly less than I think, just slight mass.
But you think about the whole world.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Joe Rogan, the whole world listening to Donald Trump, mate,
but the years add million. Yeah, a large part of
the world don't speak English.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean in terms of what is a good point.
Actually this was going to be English speaking podcasts. I'm
not sure what's happening in South America for example, good point.
Maybe they have different ones that are popping off.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now, obviously we don't have, you know, hundreds of millions
of people in Australia, so the numbers aren't going to
be quite that here. But what are the biggest Australian podcasts?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Hard to know. But from what I can see, the
imperfect yep, you know with Hugh and Ryan. Yeah, that
one's hidden pretty well. Around one hundred thousand downloads episode.
So if you don't take this as this is just
what my phone is displaying, we're not confident. We think
they're right because we've compared them with downloads that we
know are true.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, Yeah, Well, I mean we checked it with the
zakonom podcast. That was easy. But we'll also and I
do a Brisbane Lines podcast or the Raw Deal and
that was bang on the same as the numbers I'm
seeing in the back end. So what I mean the
thing is, people like The Imperfects and Joe Rogan, if
this comes out, they're gonna feel very vindicated and validated.
(34:35):
There's gonna be other people who will be shaken in
their boots.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, because we've been commenting some podcasts that we listen
to that kind of make out they've got a whole
lot of listeners. Yeah, and it turns out they don't,
and nowhere near as big as they're making out anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And for years, pretty much since the beginning of podcasting,
those claims have gone unverified.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, because there's no way of knowing how many downloads
they had.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Like, I honestly don't know what this is going to
do to the media landscape. If tomorrow everyone wakes up
and we can all access on our phone Spotify podcast downloads,
the exact number of Lad's podcasts are getting, this could
change everything.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Mate. What are some of the other big ones you
can think of. I'm thinking everyone says call her daddy,
and they say, they say Joe Rogan and call her daddy.
The biggest call her Daddy's nowhere near. It's because others, really,
I mean in the hundreds of thousands, like you know,
four hundred, Oh, there's one here with a million, three
hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. Oh, there's a few around
a million. But like for example, Amy Pohler recently came
(35:36):
out with one Good Hang Yeah with Amy polar those
are all in the millions. That's like really getting up
in Joe Rogan territory. Less than Joe certainly, but like
in the multimillions.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What about Meghan Markle had her podcast deal with Spotify
a few years ago, didn't she? She did a podcast.
I don't know if that's still going, but she had
her podcast have you have you ever found that?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Called? Do you Know?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Do you remember the Meghan Markle podcast? We're trying to
remember what was called I Reckon? It was twenty two
that they launched.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Was she interviewing people like Serena Williams? Was that an
episode might have been in Mate?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, that's that's pretty big. Two point nine million. That
one had her episode with Mariah Carey one point eight million.
That seems like it was a legitimately big podcast. You go, well,
I mean this, were you hoping that she had nothing?
You were going to blow something wide open here that
they wasted their money. I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Don't give me that narrative. If that wasn't at all
what I was.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It seems like we were trying to headline.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just wondering, mate, But I mean, look, this is big,
This is big, and right now, how many different people
do you reckon how many different podcasts producers around the
world are trying to file in.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You know, we've we've we've thought for a long time
that people get a little creative when it comes to
displaying numbers to potential advertisers. And of course you would,
because it's in your best interest to display the best numbers. Yeah,
But I mean, like, if all the advocate, if all
the advertisers can see all the numbers across all the
(37:09):
podcast us, I think some of those deals are going
to change. There would be a number of people who
would be a little bit worried at the moment they
were like, hey, hey, Hey, no, I don't want everyone
to see the podcast numbers.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well the zecond non podcast to lead that way, I
reckon we might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
We're fairly consistent with other radio shows. Yeah, so we've
got okay, even bigger radio shows. To be honest with you,
some of the big radio shows are surprisingly shockingly low.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Actually, well this is big news. Keep an eye on
your Spotify everyone, and maybe mate, the whole podcasting landscape
is just about to change.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This is second tom God make my day, dog. We're
trying to do our part to raise awareness for lesser
known holidays. Each night I bring two to the show.
You and I have to pick one each to become
ambassadors for It.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Is that simple, zect. Tomorrow is the fourteenth of May.
What do you got?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
This is a fun one. Yeah, National Travel Insurance Claims Day.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
So this is different from just playing travel insurance Day.
This is for claims in particular.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Now, I couldn't really think of a worst day.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
What do you mean? It's basically like do your taxes day?
Like it's admin day. Yeah, but in san that mate,
you could be getting money out of this.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
National Travel Insurance Claims Day celebrates the crucial role travel
insurance has on insuring safe and worry free journeys. Yeah,
that's some of the suggested ways to celebrate, share your stories,
learn about coverage.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I just find it too bleak travel insurance. You know
when you look into it and like the different packages
talk about how they'll get your body home.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
What do you mean so you're still getting travel insurance,
ain't you?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, But like I just when you read
too much into it and you find out like what
their various death programs are, I just don't want to
know that. But if I'm planning a fun beach trip.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So you're like, do I want platinum cover, Yeah, that
sends me home in like a a nice mahogany coffin,
honest Or do I want the cheap ply coffin?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, it's honestly not too far from that. And I'm like, mane,
I'm about to go on a fun holiday. The last
thing I want to be thinking about is what coughin
I'm coming back in if it doesn't go well, Like,
just tell me what I want from traveling trus I
want them to say to me, give you money, to us,
don't think about anything else. I know that sounds like
a scam, but I'd enjoy that. That would make me feel
(39:36):
more confident.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Wednesday, May fourteen is also International Chihuahua Appreciation Day.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know, when I was a kid, I thought chua
was going to be a bigger part of my life than.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Ever see if ever.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
A friend of mine had a Chu hour growing up
DC he had a Chwo hour, And I remember thinking
this is the first of many. It might be the
only one I've ever really got to know.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
They're meant to be quite angry, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, DC's was an angry dog.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It sounds like you had some personal history.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, I can get a bit one of my shirts,
like tour one of my shirts.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Do you think they had a particular problem with you?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
No, it was with everyone. It's pretty can't blinde really?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Is it true? There's a bit of an faq on
this page.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Is it true that chihuahuas were once believed to have
healing powers. Yes, folklore suggests chihuahuas could absorb ailments like
asthma or arthritis from their owners. I don't believe there
is any scientific basis for this.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
I think they might be stretching the truth. There now
here's the thing about chwo hours, Like they weren't around
pre human were they? Like they're a bread dog.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I don't think so, because I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Imagine they would have gone long in the wild.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Well why not? There's lots of like rats, for example.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, yeah, that's true. Actually I hadn't thought about that. Well,
so you're telling me you go back to prehistoric ages,
there's some two hours running around.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think Chiua was a pretty old dog. Yeah, really, yeah,
I think so, you have a look at it. I'll
do some quick googling here. I don't think because you're
thinking of like a pug. How they've been bred to
have those small noses. But Chiuauas aren't the same as that.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
How the hell do you spell chuaur s I h u.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
A h a u.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's a very fun word to say.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
The first modern chu hours were discovered in the mid
eighteen hundreds in the state of chiu Hour, Mexico.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
That's where the name comes from.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Did you know that that is wild? I had no
idea that there was a place called Chiuaura in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Now, did they travel in packs? I wonder they're dogs? Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I have to say, man, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
In the jungle, where were they? Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, here we go. While history is complex and debated,
the breeders believed were descended from the early dogs like
the tichichi kept by the Toltec people in Mexico as
early as ninth century. Some evident suggests that Chuaa ancestors
may even have predated the Mayan civilization.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Of Come on, why that's not unbelievable? Why is that
what you tell me?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
The Mayan civilization had two hours? Why not all.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Human civilizations would have had some type of dog.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, it just seems unusual to me. Design and dog. Mate,
I'm picturing there in Mayans walking around with handbags at
two hours.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
In them, it's a long way to heavily hill.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Which of these days do you want? Mate?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Take your pick? Well, I've got some legal insurance claims
I need to process. Maybe I'll take that one.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Well, I'll go celebrate two hours and we'll catch you
tomorrow on the show.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
That's all for this episode of the Zac and Dom podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
Have you ever felt like this like James happened when Kiss?
This is Zack andn You know, I've worked with Zach
for ten years, over ten years now. I thought there
was nothing left that could surprise me. But just moments
before the show started, he tells me about a run
in he's just had recently with former Australian Idol judge
(01:05):
Ian Dicko Dixon.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, you have taken this. You think this is the
than what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's massive. You read into you need.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
To talk about this on the radio.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You read into Digo in the Wild.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
To watch my live show of the weekend, my podcast
Every Animal Ever. We had a live show. Dicko wanted
to He kind of has a little history with my
co host Caesar and he wanted to come watch the show.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And did Dicko sit in the audience and make harsh
comments that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He's actually very lovely, I really said very complimentary things. Actually,
to be honest, I might have lived your dream. Dicko said,
well done. I enjoyed that is that? Is that something
that you had dreams about before?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Mark Holden starts swinging his arm after that, that's legitimately
heaven to me, that's incredible. We'll lovely to hear that
Dicko is doing well.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Zak.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Speaking of Australian music icons, coming up on the show tonight,
before we hit nine o'clock, Connie from Sneaky sound System
is going to join us.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yes, and they have a song I saw a UFO.
No one believes me that happened to you recently on
the show? Are you cool if we bring that up
with a why.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Would you ask? If I'm cool with that? Do you
think it's a source sport spot for me?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That yeah, a little bit, because you seem to get
a little embarrassed when everyone told you that it was
just starlink.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, to be fair in my defense, before I knew
what starlink looked like, it was a sort of spooky
sequence of dots in the sky.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Also, before nine o'clock tonight, will we give away the
Usher tickets?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I reckon that's a good call. Yes, we have an
entire row of tickets to go and see Usher when
Usher is touring next year, Usha presents Past, Present, Future
Live in Australia for the first time in fourteen years,
performing all the hits across his thirty year career. For tickets,
you can go to livenation dot com dot au if
you would like an entire row of tickets, not one,
(02:51):
not two, but six tickets to go and see Usher.
Stick around. I reckon, we'll do that in the next
half hour. ZAC. So this is a good time to
get on the phone with your friends, get in the
group chat, say everyone free to go see Usher.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm about to win us an entire row together. This
is second off who said no to the baby name?
Who had a problem with it? You know, you come
out with a baby name. Maybe your partner said no,
you're not doing that one and the baby never got
named that, or maybe you named your kid. I think
sometimes it's a parent thing or an in laws thing
and they make a funny face really or they.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Say, oh really, well I don't have kids. I mean
you've got a couple. But this story has come out
of a list of band names that's been released. So
this is basically when the government says No.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
The are the ones that you're not allowed to buy law.
Now obviously religious kind of titles, so you can't be bishop,
for example, you can't be the Dalai Lama.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
There's also like military ones.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You can't be a rank, yeah, like commander or something
like that, captain the mission.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The interesting one is that you can't be Commodore, which
at first I thought was like that you can't be
the car name, but no, it's because of the military title.
So you can be Ford, but you can't be Commodore.
That's a little unfair.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Now here's a few weird ones on here, like why
can't you be Harry Potter?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Was interesting? And the other name that I thought ned Kelly,
Like they're just names, why can't you be them?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
There would have to be some Ned Kelly's out there,
so you would think so.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Because it's not that you can't be Harry first name Potter,
last name, is that you can't be first named Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You also can't be called Facebook. That's a band name
for some reason, Australia. I mean, why can't you call
your kids Sydney but not Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, why we like to call our children about cities
of Australia, but not actually the country itself.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
How about this one? Because of the I guess this
is an official title. You can't be Barren. Yeah, Trump's
kid named Baron differently. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Not the first time Trump hasn't followed the law though,
Let's be honest. But it is interesting, mate, because you've
got two kids. So I want you to take me
into this, like you and your wife Sarah, when you
came to naming your two kids, was it like a
brainstorming session? Did you have a pot of coffee and
a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's over a long period of time because I'm not
sure if you're aware of this, but you kind of
get a head's up that you've got to have a baby.
There's a few months to prepare.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm aware of this, but like, is it you know
who mentions the name first? Are you constantly came up.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
With both of ours? Really, and we had them ready
and they're slightly unusual names. Peaches as our little girl
and Finch as our boy, and so Finch was second.
And when I said that to my parents after having Peaches, yeah,
he said, well, we did think it was going to
be unusual, right, So they doesn't say no, but they
did express that they were like, oh, yeah, that's a
(05:48):
bit unusual.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Because everyone has an opinion on her name, don't they can.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I remember my grandma laughing and laughing and laughing at
the name Willow. Really yes, She's like, it's it's a tree.
And I'm like, there's lots of names that, like Olive
is considered a classic name, but that's just a fruit.
What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, but people get really picky or maybe they once
met someone with that name it they hated, and so
they can't you know, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think a lot of it is generational. Yeah, each
generation gets one hundred names that they think are the
only ones you're allowed, and if it's anything outside of that,
then you know, it's not cool.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I remember my brother and his wife they called their
daughter Scotland Scottie. For sure, it is her name, and
I remember that's not on the list. No, Scotland. Australia's banned,
but not Scotland Scotland.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
If you could call your kid Australia or not Scotland.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's a good question. But I know at the time
they were worried about this. They were worried that some
people might go, what do you mean you can't call.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Your kid that? Has anything come up?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So far we've been okay, but they haven't been to
Scotland with it. I mean maybe that'd be the risk, right,
you take her down the streets of editor.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Surely you just call it Scotty though.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Possibly, yeah, I don't know. Maybe look third in one
six five who said no to the name because apparently
this is such a divisive issue, what you're going to
name your kid? Apparently also it's something that everyone thinks
that they were allowed to have it their own two
cents on one of the names on this band list
of Natala, Natella is bad.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, apparently, but no veggie might so you can't have
a little veggie but not a nuddy.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Why isn't it Why isn't it Tellaband?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I don't know, little Ella, that's a cute.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, even Teller, Hey Teller, come over here. I mean,
I reckon, I don't know there's any good reason why
to tell as band or maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's something to do with nut allergies, you think, so,
yes can't have any nut products in schools. Sorry, Natella,
you gotta sit out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Look, they're in one day six Fife who said no
to the name Kimberly in Brisbane?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yes, how are you fellas.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Who said no to the name? What did she say? Ah?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
So she said, my daughter's name sounded like a Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Now what was the name?
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Her name is Arabella?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Wait hang on, so you had already named her that
and your mum.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Still it was on the list and it was down
to two and she said that I found out after
I had named her that She's told said it sounded
like a dairy cow's name.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Dairy cow Arabella. I mean, did she come around your mum, Kimberly?
Speaker 6 (08:18):
She says she couldn't think of a better name for her.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
It's not really saying anything.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean, Arabella is not that uncommon a name. I reckon.
I've heard of Arabella's out there.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And is it Bella for sure?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I reckon so or Arrah? I mean they're both good.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean it's not a it.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They'd be dairy cow names that are more clear than Arabella.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Why is it connection to cows? Like if you call
your kid milky, I guess that's hey, Kimberly, what's the
connection to dairy cows.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Well, what's funny is I took her to the Echo
when she was about eight or nine, and we're in
the cow pavilions. There's actually a prize winning dairy farm
called Arabella's Cow.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Ye, maybe she knew about the farm.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You gotta know your dairy farm's out there, I guess,
don't she Probably don't call your kid after any sort
of meat or dairy manufacturing facility.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, I just think it's probably not a name you're
going to love long term. Well you think it is,
you like it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
My third kid is going to be called craft. Middle
name singles.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We're asking a thirty one six month who said no
to the name Claire. Your husband wanted a name for
your kid, but you said no, What was the name?
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I did? It seemed quite mild as well, But the
name was Nora.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, what's wrong with Nora?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
I apologies to all the Nora's out there, but I
am not birthing a ninety year old. He wanted this
name because it's aaron felt backwards.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Ah, that's interesting, Yeah, but Claire, I mean, all names
come back around.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Nora one hundred percent will have a resurrection in the
next decade. Or two.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
It may now put it out there for the universe.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Old names are in if you look at the role
call of like a daycare class at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, it could have been a retirement home. Yes, ten
years ago. A lot of Beverly's.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
There are some Beverly's. Beverly's coming back.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You have not met a baby Beverly.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I personally haven't met one directly, but I have heard
the name is back.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's all those old names are bout, literally all of them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm going to see a toddler and say, get over here,
bitv Bevy.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, that's very Australian Bevy.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I yes, So Riley in Melbourn, I'm thirty one, six five.
You had a name picked out for the kid and
the entire family said no.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Riley, absolutely everyone said no to it, and I fell
in love with it. So I was heartbroken.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
What was it Calliope? Now? Have you made that up?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I kind of cross Kelly and Penalopee, so I.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Kind of together across section name that You're going to
need to give it to me again.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm not sure I've followed what you said.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
What's the name Calliope?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And you went across, you went away from it, Riley,
you didn't commit to it, yes.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Because everybody kept on calling her Kaleidoscope.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So what did you go in the end? What name
did you choose instead?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Hollow Ray?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I mean similarly creative? What what was it? Hollow Ray, HaLow,
hallow Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's a normal name, hallow Ray, yeah yeah, and then
apostrophe Ray.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, that's a common name.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Hallo Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm not saying it's a common name since you're.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Saying hello Ray. And my auntie's called Bev and my
uncle's called Ray. So we're talking about Beverly a minute ago.
Now I'm saying hello Ray.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
They're all coming back.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't know if they are.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They are. It's all contextual. The names that feel old
and the names that feel young. It's just what you're
used to. Because now that's during Rachel's, Machell Sarah's. That's
the new old names.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, not speaking. Yeah, how far are we away from
Zach being the name that an old man has?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, I guess like forty years until I'm an old man.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, true, mate, and then I know, give another forty
after that, and anyone's calling the kid Zack's again. So
maybe what you gotta do is just beat the wave,
beat the girl.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You honestly could do that if you wanted a trendy,
forward thinking name. Yes, just look at maybe what do
you think thirty years ago?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
About that? What was an old person's name thirty years ago?
Jump in on Doris now? If you claim Doris now,
you'll be first in. You're listening to the Zach and
Dom podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Ushall Bruck.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, Usher's Past, Present, Future tour for the first time
in fourteen years. Zach Usher is heading live down under
tickets at livenation dot com dot Au, or you can
win an entire row right now on the Zach and
Nom show here on Kiss simply by picking any version
of an Usher song.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
We have a resident Shay in studio to sing a
Shay version I guess like an Australian Yeah, train station
version of an Usher song. If you can pick what
the song is, you win the ticket.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's that simple. You and five friends heading along. We've
got Megan in Melbourne on thirteen one O six five.
How's how goods your back catalog knowledge of Usher? Megan?
I'm hoping it's really good. Yeah, all right, what about
your knowledge of esh a language? Is that pretty strong too?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Probably better than all right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
There, All right, here we go. You're gonna hear the
song and afterwards, if you can tell us what it is,
they're all yours.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Lad, there's always the one person that makes tracks with
your heart. I never see you coming because you're blonded
from the start, Lad, baby not did you're the one
for me? It's good for all the boys to see. Bruh,
you've always been my boo?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
What do you think, Megan?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Oh no, is it my boot?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is it my boo? Of course it is. They're all
yours Megan. Congratulations. Have we got all six people in
the car with you? I think we've Magan.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Who's with you right now? Are they who's got to
come to Usher with you?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I've got my essay?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh well, I mean I love the celebration in the background, Megan.
The six tickets to go and see Usher's past, present,
future to are all yours on us. Maybe you could
dress up as essays for the night. He really live
into the way. You've got the tickets? Yes, yeah, I
mean I feel like what was happening when Megan is
right now is slight chaos?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I hope just by coincidence, there were just six people there.
Can you imagine if there were seven and everyone's going
off and you're actually, like Doug, you're not coming. Zach
and Tom podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Zach a bit of a music royalty joining the show now. Yes,
Connie Mitchell from Sneaky sound System, you like the intro? Connie?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I just loved that. That was an awesome bashup.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I imagine you've been introduced many ways over the journey.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Is that a top ranking intro listen?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
That's going to be a highlight for sure?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, look, Connie, it was only what a month or
two ago that that you guys released your most recent
new music. Tell Us about this, tell Us about sh.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Well, she was basically a love song. You know, how
could we not have another love song? Because love songs
are pretty beautiful, aren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, I hard to argue with, and especially in your band,
I mean, Zach and I. We've obviously been loving Sneaky
sound System for a couple of decades now, but we
only just learned that the two people in Sneaky sound
System are actually married to each other.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What's that like, Connie, Does that cause some complications or
is it much easier than.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Having other You know what I think? Because we're just
so incredibly lucky to be out making music, playing music,
traveling the world. How could you not be happy or
in this mindset to have an argument about anything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's a good point. You kind of are the Aussie
Yvonne Traps in a sense, aren't you.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I love that. Oh, we're a little bit Connie.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You're going to have to explain that reference.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But it's the sound of music family, and you said
that as a compliment. You know, the traveling musical family
from the sound of music from the nineteen sixties. Mate,
everyone you know the sound of music, Connie, I.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Do know the sound of music. I watched every Christmas.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, the sneaky sound of music.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I had a bit of a crush on Captain Trap.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I had the same on Julie Andrews, and I was
when I was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The nun Did you have a nun thing? Just her?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I didn't have a nun thing, Mate, She's graceful in
the sound of music, It's.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Very graceful, like honestly, a proper lady.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Proper lady, and you see her perform at the Oscars
these days, they still wheel her out every now and then,
and she's still she still got it, Connie. She's as
graceful as.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
She ever was. Speaking of all the big names, Connie,
you've lent your vocals to some big artists over the years,
Jay Z Snoop Dogg comes to mind. What was something?
What's the what's the collaboration that blows your mind the most?
The one that when you heard how it sounded on
the airwaves, you're kind of like, WHOA, I can't believe
that's me.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think the Kanye stuff because that was two albums
that was pretty and it was just everywhere. It was
all over the world. It was on movies, it was like,
that was pretty massive.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's how does Kanye West reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Is it an Instagram? DM? Is it one age? Seriously,
you mustn't think that it's real at first?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, No, it's like, Yo, want to come to Japan?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Wow? And and and what do you go back with
because obviously you want to play it cool with someone
like that. What do you what's your immediate reply on tour?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Because we are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So you go on tour and then what there's a
bit of back and forth before you sign the dotted.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Line bit of ajiji.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, you got to take it out of the DMS.
I think in into the lawyer's hands, don't you some
official contracts?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Yeah, I think the word official was a good word.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well, I'm pretty sure Connie, am I right in saying
this year is the twenty year anniversary of Sneaky Sound
Systems Formation?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Oh? Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, one of the biggest songs from around that time
was I saw a UFO and no one believes me.
That happened to Dom recently. Actually he saw a UFO
and no one believes him.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, you like next time aut
There was there an.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Experience that you had that inspired that? Or was that
just a party anthem?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I was in like art and I last about thirty
minutes of time, and I looked up on the sky
and saw the three lights that went off in random
directions way too quickly, just like up and down at
right angles, making squares. And I had this kind of sound,
like like a giant barrel kind of moving around my head.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And what immediately you were like, get me the notepad,
I've got the next hit.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Well, I mean everyone was like, where have you been?
I mean only I just went to put some underpants
on the line, so I should have been that long.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Obviously a husband angers who was just your music partner
at the time, did he believe you?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
No, no one. I mean the song doesn't lie.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
No, it doesn't at all. These years on, are you
still pretty adamant that you saw aliens?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Now, let's be clear here, a UFO and aliens are different.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. I didn't see anyone driving
said vehicle. Yeah, I just heard and saw.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, I saw something weird, some weird weird.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It feels right. I think Connie having sneaky sound system
new music on the show. We are loving it on Kiss.
Thank you so much. Good for the song and thanks
for joining us on the show. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Oh, pleasure, pleasure. I love the way you say my name.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Am I getting it wrong? No?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
It sounds really good.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
How do you say it?
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Well, I like the way you say it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm saying, Connie, I know it's good.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Give it another shot, Connie.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean, if you want I'm happy to tour with
you guys and announce you on stage every night.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I love that. I always wanted that. I always wanted
what I'll.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Do, Connie, I'll hide sight a stage and gentlemen, Yes,
ladies and gentlemen, please welcome sneaky sound system, Angus McDonald
and Connie Mitchell.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Oh drop it, Oh my dreams are coming through.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'll pack the bag now.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Connie, thanks so much for joining the show.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Pleasure.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
This is Zack and Tom.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We're letting Dom's ideas run wild.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
This is free Dom.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
This is the portion of the show where Dom can
do whatever he wants. No one can stop him, not me,
not producer Claire. It's just straight off Dom's dome onto
the airwaves, and it doesn't matter how bad the idea is. Often,
actually the bad ones are the ones that get through.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't like you setting the context immediately that it's
going to be bad, because someone might have just tuned
into the Zach and Dom show for the very first
time and thought, oh, this sounds like a little bit
of fun, and now you've given them a preconception that
it's going to be bad. It could be wonderful, mate.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I thought you would have liked the bar to be low.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, no, no, set the bars high. You'd like skyhigh, mate,
because we're going to reach it. Because you know what
I was thinking, You know me, I'm always trying to
get in the mind of the people listening to this show.
You right now, wherever you are, whatever you're up to.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can we cut the next three minutes and you just
tell us what the show? No idea is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
We need this like you live. I like to imagine
what people are doing as they're listening. What are they
up to, where are they, who are they with, and
how are they feeling? What sort of a day has
it been? So far from them? I like to imagine
all these questions, all these thoughts get in the mind
of the listener. And then I thought, just today, I thought,
what about the age of the listener? Because you know,
this country is full of diverse ages. I wonder what
(22:49):
sort of people are listening to our show. And then
another thought hit me. I mean, you get in the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't want any commentary on your thoughts. That's where
it gets really boring.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I agreed to disagree. The next thought was, what's
the oldest listener we would have on this show because
you know here we are on Kiss FM. It's a
contemporary station. We specialize in the twenty five to forty
year old demographic.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Contemporary station. Yeah, I mean, is this media wise?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Well? I was just wondering, because they'd be there'd be
some really cool old people who I reckon would listen
to to Kiss who'd love this music mix.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I you can't use this as a way to meet
Grannie because I know you have a little bit of
a thing for older people.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Don't have a shit, I don't have a think for
older people. And you need to stop saying that on
the show because people I'm in my.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Let's look at the evidence. No, people, people who are
cool and old to call the show, maybe leave your number.
What are you doing this weekend?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
People in my life who listen to us are starting
to believe that I might actually have a granny thing
because of what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I didn't get it from nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just have friends who are elderly. It's that simple.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
And you said that you were open to it.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well with one of them. Yeah, but that's that's a
unique case. Look, they're in one o six side. What
I want to know is what's the oldest listener we
have on the show?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
If you're listening to this right now, and I don't
know where to set the benchmark, Zach, we probably should
set it around fifty. I reckon if you're older than
fifty thirteen one oh six five, fifty that's way too young.
If you're older than sixty, definitely call. If you're older
than seventy, If anyone older than seventy is listening, thirteen
one oh six five, we would love so much to
hear from you. That would be That would make my night, mate,
(24:36):
I'm sure it would maybe stop it.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Can you promise you're not going to hit on the caller?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't. The problem is it's one of these situations
where the more you realize I promise, why won't you
promise not to hit on the callers?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It sounds like you really want to do it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The more I deny this, the more as it's like
I have a graddy thing that makes things really are't
I promise you I won't hit on the callers, and
I don't have a grady thing. Look thirteen one oh
six five. I want to find the oldest listener we
have to the show. Right now, And I know you
might be sitting there thinking, Hey, I'm fifty four. I
could call up, but I don't want them to say
I'm the oldest listener. That's going to be a horrible
(25:20):
day if I find out I'm the oldest listener.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No flaw in the segment.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Totally other way around. That means you're the coolest person
of your demographic. That's what we're learning about you. Yeah, okay,
So look thirteen one o six five, Mark, how old
are you? Mate?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Forty eight?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Forty eight, forty eight?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, I would still say that's a with a snap
of mine.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, you still feel young, Mark?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
No, actually not after a date that Fashion Week, I
feel old.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
To be honest with you, fashion week will do that
to you.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
To be honest, though, I feel like if you're at
Fashion Week at twenty four, you probably feel old.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't call it a big laugh,
you go a little chuckle from a little chuckle. We'll
go to Tracy on thirteen one O six five. We're
trying to find the oldest listener to the show at
the moment. How old dare you? Tracy?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I am sixty five, sixty five.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Getting we're getting up in the ages a little bit.
Are you eligible for the pension, Tracy?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I know, because I've worked full time, I'm not eligible.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And the retirement age now, Tracy, is it sixty five?
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I haven't looked into it. Yeah, I'm still loving it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Yeah, I'm teacher.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Kids keep me young like the young ones.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
The energy, I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Now my memory of the eldest teacher at my school,
I reckon they had to be over seventy.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah. Do you think we certainly had a few over
seventies there too at my school. I don't think that
makes sense? What having some teacher? I mean, that's when
they've got so much wisdom to pass on. The elder
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What do you think I had no idea saying what
you're referring to.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'm saying. I mean, for thousands of years, the elder
in the village in their last you know, a couple
of decades of life. I said that carefully would be
the stage where they would teach the young'ins. I think
that the teaching force should be mostly seventy plus in it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Some communities try to get rid of the elderly because
they were a burden.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I don't think that's true. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Is there any truth to that? Well, there's a story
about the putting them on the ice. We've had that, No,
I have not.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I think that one the elderly are calling this is
not the time for whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I remember watching a movie about it. It probably was fiction.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think it was fiction. Normally, as you aged, you
grew into your most important role in the village of
the village elder.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Right. Yeah, you know so in times where chopping wood,
collecting food, everyone could.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Do that, but the village elders would be the council
whod make the decisions for the village.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Everyone else has to go shop my wood, get my food.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, sounds like what we do now.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It feels like all the older generations are making all
the decisions for the younger people.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ah bit of satire. I like it. Look thirty one
six five, we're trying to find our oldest listener, Deb,
not thirty in one a six five? What's your age? Deb? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Hi, I have to think about it and work it out.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
But I'm sixty six turning sixty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh well, dev I think Claire, did you have some
theme music for the what's this segment?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I mean, why why are we playing that?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think it's just the electric mood that's in the air.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Shut up? Are you single? Deb Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh I'm in the ring to it.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What do you think about a thirty one year old dead?
Would you be happening to it?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Look it?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
What all depends?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'd have to really think very very strongly about that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, No, I get that old soul. Yeah I am
an old So what's your ideal day?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Maybe steam down a mountain or scuba diving?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Is Antarctic?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
That would be great.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's on the bucket lift nice.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Actually looks that's too adventurous for dom.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I was hoping you'd say a high t.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, that's what I was going for. You don't really
like skiing and stuft ear.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, not for me. Not for me. I genuinely like
a nice lie down in a book. Thirty one day,
six fibers to try to find our oldest listener. I
think this might be Charles in Sydney. How old are you?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Charles seventy six?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Seventy six? You don't sound like it?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh no, I still work.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh, what do you do for a job, chus.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Look after a sex club?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Okay, what did you say?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I look after a sex club?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
A sex club? I thought I heard that just making
sure and Charles having.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
What do you mean you look after a six club?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You're the manager sort of make sure it opens, make
sure it shows.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's a kind of a very cryptic yeah, answer.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Street it's a gag place.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Okay, Well, Charles, I'm curious. I mean, normally when people aged,
they might they might tune into the AM band, get
political opinions. What's kept you over here with us into
your seventies?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I don't watch TV and I just listened to Young
and my partner's only so united. No, I actually don't. Yeah,
I don't know. Just go out all the time. All
my friends are young and their forties.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well do you Charles will welcome on board. I think
we've successfully proven that we found our oldest listener seventy six.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
A wider array.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah. That's it, mate, that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And that's what you wanted, wasn't it you wanted, yeah,
to see the breadth of our listeners, the listenership.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Mate, We have you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Almost got a date with Debbie. We heard that Charles
who opens and shuts the seconds. Not really sure what
that role is.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
We've been I mean it's been an inter assumed. It
says a big stuff on the show tonight. If you're
listening to the Zach and Dom podcast, I mean, look,
whatever you're doing, however you're spending your evening at the moment,
we're gonna need you to sort of put a pause
on that and gather around the radio. Right now, Zach,
we have come across on your phone. I don't know
(31:29):
if it's a glitch, if it's an advanced trial of
a new feature on Spotify, but this could change everything.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I noticed this yesterday actually, and everyone I've shown in
the media has had their eyes glued to it because
it's been a thing for a long time that you
don't know how many listeners, how many downloads O the
podcasts are getting, Yes, because they don't displaym on YouTube.
You see hits on Instagram, on Facebook, you see how
many views things are getting. Podcasts you don't. And then
(31:57):
I opened my Spotify just yesterday and all the podcasts
had numbers next to them for plays. Unbelievable, and I
thought it was just a few, but then I started
searching others. Every single pot cast that's on Spotify is
displaying a number next to it indicating how many plays
it has. I don't know if this is a like
(32:18):
early rollout, because you know they roll out features in waves, yes, yeah,
or this is some type of glitch. I don't think
it's a glitch. I imagine it's going to come out
in waves, and therefore everyone is going to get it,
and when they do, this is going to be big news.
It's massive. Some are bigger than I expected. There are
also a lot the smaller than I expected.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Now I've checked my Spotify the features not there produce
a clearest checked as well, it's not there either. And
so you're the only one that you know, certainly that
we know of who right now it's like you are
the keys to the media landscape.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Well, if you have Spotify, you can check for yourself,
because yeah, you might be one that has the advanced
kind of feature. But it's quite interesting, don because like
you know, Joe Rogan considered the biggest in the world.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Would you say, oh, it's definitely the biggest podcast in
the world.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It seems on average they get about five million ish,
maybe a little bit more. His Elon Musk one he
did recently is on eighteen million, and the Trump one
is around thirty million.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's actually weirdly less than I think, just slight mass.
But you think about the whole world.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Joe Rogan, the whole world listening to Donald Trump, mate,
but the years add million. Yeah, a large part of
the world don't speak English.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean in terms of what is a good point.
Actually this was going to be English speaking podcasts. I'm
not sure what's happening in South America for example, good point.
Maybe they have different ones that are popping off.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now, obviously we don't have, you know, hundreds of millions
of people in Australia, so the numbers aren't going to
be quite that here. But what are the biggest Australian podcasts?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Hard to know. But from what I can see, the
imperfect yep, you know with Hugh and Ryan. Yeah, that
one's hidden pretty well. Around one hundred thousand downloads episode.
So if you don't take this as this is just
what my phone is displaying, we're not confident. We think
they're right because we've compared them with downloads that we
know are true.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, Yeah, Well, I mean we checked it with the
zakonom podcast. That was easy. But we'll also and I
do a Brisbane Lines podcast or the Raw Deal and
that was bang on the same as the numbers I'm
seeing in the back end. So what I mean the
thing is, people like The Imperfects and Joe Rogan, if
this comes out, they're gonna feel very vindicated and validated.
(34:35):
There's gonna be other people who will be shaken in
their boots.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, because we've been commenting some podcasts that we listen
to that kind of make out they've got a whole
lot of listeners. Yeah, and it turns out they don't,
and nowhere near as big as they're making out anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And for years, pretty much since the beginning of podcasting,
those claims have gone unverified.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, because there's no way of knowing how many downloads
they had.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Like, I honestly don't know what this is going to
do to the media landscape. If tomorrow everyone wakes up
and we can all access on our phone Spotify podcast downloads,
the exact number of Lad's podcasts are getting, this could
change everything.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Mate. What are some of the other big ones you
can think of. I'm thinking everyone says call her daddy,
and they say, they say Joe Rogan and call her daddy.
The biggest call her Daddy's nowhere near. It's because others, really,
I mean in the hundreds of thousands, like you know,
four hundred, Oh, there's one here with a million, three
hundred thousand, three hundred thousand. Oh, there's a few around
a million. But like for example, Amy Pohler recently came
(35:36):
out with one Good Hang Yeah with Amy polar those
are all in the millions. That's like really getting up
in Joe Rogan territory. Less than Joe certainly, but like
in the multimillions.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What about Meghan Markle had her podcast deal with Spotify
a few years ago, didn't she? She did a podcast.
I don't know if that's still going, but she had
her podcast have you have you ever found that?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Called? Do you Know?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Do you remember the Meghan Markle podcast? We're trying to
remember what was called I Reckon? It was twenty two
that they launched.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Was she interviewing people like Serena Williams? Was that an
episode might have been in Mate?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, that's that's pretty big. Two point nine million. That
one had her episode with Mariah Carey one point eight million.
That seems like it was a legitimately big podcast. You go, well,
I mean this, were you hoping that she had nothing?
You were going to blow something wide open here that
they wasted their money. I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Don't give me that narrative. If that wasn't at all
what I was.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It seems like we were trying to headline.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just wondering, mate, But I mean, look, this is big,
This is big, and right now, how many different people
do you reckon how many different podcasts producers around the
world are trying to file in.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You know, we've we've we've thought for a long time
that people get a little creative when it comes to
displaying numbers to potential advertisers. And of course you would,
because it's in your best interest to display the best numbers. Yeah,
But I mean, like, if all the advocate, if all
the advertisers can see all the numbers across all the
(37:09):
podcast us, I think some of those deals are going
to change. There would be a number of people who
would be a little bit worried at the moment they
were like, hey, hey, Hey, no, I don't want everyone
to see the podcast numbers.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well the zecond non podcast to lead that way, I
reckon we might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
We're fairly consistent with other radio shows. Yeah, so we've
got okay, even bigger radio shows. To be honest with you,
some of the big radio shows are surprisingly shockingly low.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Actually, well this is big news. Keep an eye on
your Spotify everyone, and maybe mate, the whole podcasting landscape
is just about to change.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This is second tom God make my day, dog. We're
trying to do our part to raise awareness for lesser
known holidays. Each night I bring two to the show.
You and I have to pick one each to become
ambassadors for It.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Is that simple, zect. Tomorrow is the fourteenth of May.
What do you got?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
This is a fun one. Yeah, National Travel Insurance Claims Day.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
So this is different from just playing travel insurance Day.
This is for claims in particular.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Now, I couldn't really think of a worst day.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
What do you mean? It's basically like do your taxes day?
Like it's admin day. Yeah, but in san that mate,
you could be getting money out of this.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
National Travel Insurance Claims Day celebrates the crucial role travel
insurance has on insuring safe and worry free journeys. Yeah,
that's some of the suggested ways to celebrate, share your stories,
learn about coverage.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I just find it too bleak travel insurance. You know
when you look into it and like the different packages
talk about how they'll get your body home.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
What do you mean so you're still getting travel insurance,
ain't you?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, But like I just when you read
too much into it and you find out like what
their various death programs are, I just don't want to
know that. But if I'm planning a fun beach trip.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So you're like, do I want platinum cover, Yeah, that
sends me home in like a a nice mahogany coffin,
honest Or do I want the cheap ply coffin?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, it's honestly not too far from that. And I'm like, mane,
I'm about to go on a fun holiday. The last
thing I want to be thinking about is what coughin
I'm coming back in if it doesn't go well, Like,
just tell me what I want from traveling trus I
want them to say to me, give you money, to us,
don't think about anything else. I know that sounds like
a scam, but I'd enjoy that. That would make me feel
(39:36):
more confident.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Wednesday, May fourteen is also International Chihuahua Appreciation Day.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know, when I was a kid, I thought chua
was going to be a bigger part of my life than.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Ever see if ever.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
A friend of mine had a Chu hour growing up
DC he had a Chwo hour, And I remember thinking
this is the first of many. It might be the
only one I've ever really got to know.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
They're meant to be quite angry, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, DC's was an angry dog.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It sounds like you had some personal history.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, I can get a bit one of my shirts,
like tour one of my shirts.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Do you think they had a particular problem with you?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
No, it was with everyone. It's pretty can't blinde really?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Is it true? There's a bit of an faq on
this page.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Is it true that chihuahuas were once believed to have
healing powers. Yes, folklore suggests chihuahuas could absorb ailments like
asthma or arthritis from their owners. I don't believe there
is any scientific basis for this.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
I think they might be stretching the truth. There now
here's the thing about chwo hours, Like they weren't around
pre human were they? Like they're a bread dog.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I don't think so, because I can't.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Imagine they would have gone long in the wild.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Well why not? There's lots of like rats, for example.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, yeah, that's true. Actually I hadn't thought about that. Well,
so you're telling me you go back to prehistoric ages,
there's some two hours running around.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think Chiua was a pretty old dog. Yeah, really, yeah,
I think so, you have a look at it. I'll
do some quick googling here. I don't think because you're
thinking of like a pug. How they've been bred to
have those small noses. But Chiuauas aren't the same as that.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
How the hell do you spell chuaur s I h u.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
A h a u.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's a very fun word to say.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
The first modern chu hours were discovered in the mid
eighteen hundreds in the state of chiu Hour, Mexico.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
That's where the name comes from.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Did you know that that is wild? I had no
idea that there was a place called Chiuaura in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Now, did they travel in packs? I wonder they're dogs? Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I have to say, man, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
In the jungle, where were they? Uh?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, here we go. While history is complex and debated,
the breeders believed were descended from the early dogs like
the tichichi kept by the Toltec people in Mexico as
early as ninth century. Some evident suggests that Chuaa ancestors
may even have predated the Mayan civilization.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Of Come on, why that's not unbelievable? Why is that
what you tell me?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
The Mayan civilization had two hours? Why not all.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Human civilizations would have had some type of dog.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, it just seems unusual to me. Design and dog. Mate,
I'm picturing there in Mayans walking around with handbags at
two hours.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
In them, it's a long way to heavily hill.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Which of these days do you want? Mate?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Take your pick? Well, I've got some legal insurance claims
I need to process. Maybe I'll take that one.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Well, I'll go celebrate two hours and we'll catch you
tomorrow on the show.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
That's all for this episode of the Zac and Dom podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Subscribe to catch the boys next time and follow them
on socials at Zac and Dom
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