June 2, 2023 • 51 mins
Ever wondered how even professional golfers can experience drastic score swings, and what it means for amateurs like us? Today, we tackle this reality as we share an incredible stat from John Sherman at Practical Golf about a pro golfer who shot an 80 and a 63 in the same weekend! Join us as we analyze the importance of setting realistic expectations and the value of dissecting our golf rounds post-play.
During this episode, we also explore the exciting differences between playing solo and as part of a scramble team. Find out how strategies differ in each situation and discover the critical role of course management in breaking 80, 90, or 100. We'll also share our experiences and insights from analyzing our games, and discuss the reality of professional golfers and the scores they achieve.
Lastly, we have some fun with a draft of the best golf shots we'd love to have in our bag. From the low stinger off the tee to the high flop shot, we'll examine the importance of shot shaping, yardages, and having a variety of shots in our arsenal. So come along and join us for an entertaining and informative journey through the world of golf in this episode of the Pure Golf Podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What is going on?
everybody, my name is Jordanand thank you for joining the
Pure Golf Podcast today.
Today, zach and I you know, wedid a lot of talking.
We did a lot of talking, had alot of funny moments.
So this one isn't going to beas edited, because we're just
kind of like flying off the cuffa lot of times And I love that.
(00:25):
The viewers kind of want tohear us not keep it so serious
many times, but to just kind oflike let it play out, and so
we're going to do that.
There's not much editing thathas happened here.
It's just us talking.
We do a draft about the bestgolf shots that we would like to
have in our bag, which is veryentertaining.
(00:47):
We also we started out thepodcast with Zach bringing out a
stat of just how inconsistentprofessional golfers can be and
how that kind of makes us feelas average golfers, and by
average golfers I mean amateurgolfers who are not professional
(01:08):
in any sense of the word.
Other than that.
Just a random text that came myway that I am going to share
with you guys from Lauren Shoutout to Lauren, and it was just
like a little brain teaser.
What if it has nothing to dowith golf, but we're just
putting it in here anyways.
And the text read what ifAristotle was pronounced like
(01:32):
Chipotle?
And that leads us withAristotle, and I kind of I kind
of liked how that sounded.
So I'm just going forward.
If we ever talk aboutphilosophy in on the Pure Golf
podcast, we're just going to gowith Aristotle, because I really
just I dug this and she willvery much appreciate that we
(01:53):
mentioned her in the podcasttoday.
So shout out to Lauren, she'sthe best.
I'm going to send it over towell, myself for announcements.
Zach makes some announcementslater in the podcast.
We're just keeping them inthere to remind you, hey, what's
coming up this week.
So that'll do it for me here.
Now over to the announcementsWhat's up guys?
(02:17):
Okay, so the announcements.
This week.
On Wednesday we had a podcastrelease talking about why free
golf help isn't actually freeand is actually costing me more.
Zach also released a video onYouTube for our channel
detailing what happened to himwhen he played three rounds of
golf in three days.
(02:37):
It's pretty funny and it alsogives you just some perspective
of how hard it is to do and whata wear and tear it takes on
your body.
So why recovery is so important.
Today we are obviously releasingthe draft podcast and the how
inconsistent our professionalgolfers podcast, and then, aside
(03:00):
from that, on Saturday Zach isreleasing a match play video on
YouTube, and on Monday we willbe doing a tournament recap for
the PGA tournament that justkicked off, actually just a
couple of hours ago.
So we'll be recapping that onSunday night and we'll be
posting that very early 6am onMonday morning for anybody who's
(03:21):
driving to work or anybody whojust wants to tune in and hear
what's going on in the world ofthe PGA.
So, yeah, we don't do live here, not yet, at least not yet.
So, all right, guys, have awonderful day and thank you for
joining.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
John Sherman on Twitter is at practical golf.
Just to make sure our sourcesare very clear.
He tweeted this today oryesterday and I wanted to just
kind of get your thoughts aboutit because I think it's so true,
especially for somebody like mewho has a score goal and we're
talking about.
You know, i'm trying to break80 right now.
(03:58):
So he tweeted a pro golfer went80, then 63 over the weekend.
A 15 handicapper at the localMuni says I want to be more
consistent and a pro golfer justdid that.
So I just want to talk abouthow I feel like people have
(04:18):
these expectations over theirown game, over other people's
games that they are veryfamiliar with, like my friends,
for example And I just want toget your thoughts on.
For us as golfers, how shouldwe approach our scores?
And when you see a tweet likethat showing that a golfer, like
(04:41):
a pro, professional golfer,just shot an 80, then a 63 and
it's that drastic for him, howshould we, as amateur golfers,
approach our own golf games?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean be realistic, you know, like didn't we just
see that at the PGA championship, like we saw a lot of guys
shoot in the 80s, right, and Ithink it's.
I would ask you in response oflike, what is your low end?
What is your high end right now?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I've been better at analyzing my game after the
round and really just sittingdown and thinking, okay, what
are the positives I can takeaway from this round and what
are things that I need to workon.
So the last round that I playedI already told you this, jordan
I had I hit at least eight ornine balls out of bounds in some
(05:36):
way.
Somehow, i still was managingto shoot.
I think I shot a 91 on the day,and this and this is coming
from a guy that is trying tobreak 80.
So I sit down and be like, okay, well, obviously, the main
thing I need to work on is offthe team.
It was just absolutelyatrocious.
However, i can take away, therest of my game was pretty,
(05:57):
pretty good in response to that.
Like, if I kept the ball inplay, that's eight or nine
strokes.
Right there I'm fighting tobreak 80 at that point, and the
reason why I even brought thistweet up to you because I think
it's a pretty good discussionstarter A lot of my friends are
guys that are people that aretrying to break 100, people that
are trying to break 90.
(06:18):
They have they have their ownscore goals right, and I feel
like handicap is a big part ofthat where it's like oh, i'm
trying to lower my handicap, i'mtrying to become a scratch
golfer A lot of golfers talkingthat in those terms, right.
So when I tell people that Ipersonally am like a 10 or a 11
handicap I think I'm playinglike an 11 right now And then I
tell people oh yeah, my roundtoday, you know, i shot upper
(06:41):
eights, i just shot low ninesPeople are like and you're an 11
handicap, what's going on?
And I feel like a lot of peoplewhen they hit that one singular
score to lower their handicap,it all of a sudden is this
mindset shift of oh, i should beshooting that score every
single time, like there's thisexpectations for it.
(07:03):
Like you've arrived, you'vearrived when you shot that low
score right Exactly, and we'vetalked about this before on our
podcast.
Golf is such an up and downgame And when you're working on
something in your swingspecifically, your score is most
likely going to balloon anyways.
And I just wanted to.
I just wanted to get yourthoughts on it because you, as a
(07:24):
swing coach, have had multiplepeople come in talking about you
know they have a score goal,they have their own handicap.
What is your response tosomebody that had that exact
reaction that my friends do?
Like I told them yeah, you know, they know I'm trying to break
80.
And then all of a sudden Ishoot a 91.
They're like are you okay, dude?
Like are you sure you're an 11handicap?
(07:44):
So what's your response as aswing coach?
I'm really curious of yourthoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Like I don't have the exact percentage here Majority,
high majority of golfers whenthey walk in the door for the
first time are the number.
one thing is I just want to bemore consistent.
right, and I think this is justthe stat that you're throwing
out is not uncommon where we seea golfer go really in a PGA
(08:12):
tour professional golfer goreally low and then really high,
like within that tournament orwithin a couple tournaments of
each other, like what the frJohn Rom is no longer a plus 10.
He shot like a 75 hand.
He shot a 75 today.
I think it's the hardest sportto be really consistent at.
you know, it is when the driveris going well.
(08:38):
life may be a little bit easierbut life may also be a little
bit harder.
You know I am.
I think you would have givenpraise to the God above for a 91
with how poorly you drove theball that day, right Like It was
it was.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
let's say I was.
I was excited when the roundended about how well I played on
every other part of my game,right So, saving Bogey on a lot
of those holes.
I mean it was Stonebridge.
We just finished recordingthere and I went back and played
there And I mean, dude, some ofthe positions I was in I'm
sitting there.
I'm like the fact that Ipersonally was able to get up
(09:16):
and down was a miracle.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, the measure of getting better at golf is not
the lowest round you'll evershoot, you know, i think that's
the very hard question to ask.
That's when everything is goingjust perfectly, you're way, but
when everything is goingagainst you, the score you shoot
then is kind of how I measurethe golfer personally of when
(09:42):
you hit eight shots out ofbounds and you still fire a 91,
that's really freaking goodRight, that's amazing, i agree,
like for me, i'll have to sit inthere like hell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, i mean, this is a plus.
And yeah, to your point.
I think average golfers get sofixated on, you know, for me,
breaking 80, right, and like wehaven't even talked about this
yet.
Like I ended up hurting my backright And you know I've had to
sit out a little bit and you andI are going to sit down and
(10:14):
fully reconstruct my swing, likefully go through, to make sure
that you know this doesn'thappen again because I hurt my
back with such a poor golf swingAnd I think for a little bit in
there I got so fixated withbreaking 80.
When you're videoing everysingle shot that you swing,
trying to like break 80, you getso fixated on it.
It kind of gets, that's allyou're focused on, right, and
(10:36):
then you lose sight of a lot ofother things, like my health and
wellness, you know.
So like it really royallyscrewed my back and now I have
to sit out for multiple weeksjust to make sure that it gets
better.
But I think it's a really gooddiscussion to have for any
average golfers out there,because man, dude, we get so we
get short-sighted when it comesto that stuff, you know.
(10:59):
And yeah, i just wanted yourthoughts on that and just for
that discussion.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, i, knowing your golf game how I do, i'm
thrilled with the 91 dude, ifthat's the punch in the mouth
you take for the day.
I've seen the short game like.
You're not like.
Yeah, you lose some strokes inthe short game and the irons and
stuff like that.
But who doesn't Like it'srarely going to go everything
(11:28):
your way that day, right?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh yeah, and that's another thing too I wanted to
just point out to anybody who'slistening.
Most people know this, but I'mjust gonna remind them.
It's when everything comestogether in your game, when you
shoot your lowest score.
So when people hit that lowestscore, for them is the
expectation that you're justgonna be on in every single
department, every single round.
That's what's crazy to me.
(11:52):
when I had this realization,when I read that tweet last
night, i'm like that's just oneof the truest things I've seen,
and I don't know about you.
This is another question Iwanted to bring up.
Do you think, because we'veplayed a scramble you and I we
played a four man scramblethat's coming out to our YouTube
I think next week actually butdo you think you play better in
(12:15):
a scramble format?
or do you think you play betterin a solo, like solo dolo, like
you're playing your own shotevery single time?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Back when I played golf like a lot more.
I played way better by myselfbecause I couldn't get into a
flow in a scramble of like.
I agree, there was noconsequence for a bad shot And I
couldn't live with that overthe ball.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I agree, i agree with you And I've had this
discussion with my friends aswell.
I feel like in scramble, youknow, like we just filmed that
3B3 in Stonebridge And my rolein the group was, you know, just
put a ball in play and then leteverybody else go.
So, to your point, there was noconsequences, when you know
they had two balls already in agood spot.
(13:00):
So I'm thinking, okay, i'm justgonna swing as hard as possible
right now and try and drive theball as far as possible.
But, yeah, i agree, i think Ipersonally do play better when
it comes to solo stuff because,also, i feel like there's more
course management, right,There's more consideration of,
okay, where do I need to putthis golf ball for the ability
(13:22):
for me to get up and down on apar-five, right, there's like,
if you're not getting on thegreen in two when it comes to
scramble formats, you'reprobably losing to the other
team in that situation.
Sure, and when you're playingsolo, i feel like you're able to
, you're able to play to yourown strengths.
Let's just say that, absolutely.
So those are the two thoughtsthat I had when coming into the
(13:44):
podcast, that I wanted to justbring them up to you and get
your thoughts on both of them.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm curious.
You should run a poll on oursocial media.
Do you play better individuallyor in a scramble format?
Because I'm curious when we getback.
I'll just tack on one morething that you're saying, Like
I'm thinking of hole number nineover at Stonebridge during the
scramble.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, So you, yeah.
so if you're listening to this,it's a par-five, it's the
handicap one.
over at Stonebridge It's aboutwhat would you say?
270, 275 to the water.
So you know, for me that's likea perfect drive getting to the
edge of the water.
For somebody that's a long ballhitter.
they're hitting a three woodright And then from that point
(14:23):
you have the option of laying upand staying safe or hitting
over the water and it's about a205, 210 carry to the pin.
Yeah, this isn't like somelittle creek.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
This is a, this is a body of water to get over.
And just like seeing thestrategy play out between you
and Jaden and Harrison of likeZack is just our, our guy that's
just gonna get the get the ballover the body of water right,
Like you would never play likethat by yourself.
Because there's there's aconsequence, for if I completely
(14:56):
blade this six iron over thewater I'm still screwed right,
But then you have two otherpeople backing you up.
You know there's a lot morefreedom in that situation than
that hole is a very tough golfhole.
It's very tough.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, and you know , what's funny is that when I
went to go play Stonebridgelater that week, i went for it
over the water and I stuck itand then I proceeded to three
putt and made bogey.
So that's fantastic, that's aplace, that's a place.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I mean, i got to ask you before we close out on this
whole handicap thing with yougetting into golf are you amazed
that some of the professionalsshoot as as high of scores as
they do from time to time?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm more surprised than I than I ever thought.
I mean it's you know it goesback to our whole thing, right?
They're professionals, so Iexpect them to shoot, to never
shoot over 80, ever or to shoot80.
I feel like you know that'slike an average golfer talk.
I'm not trying to throw outParker, but he mentioned one
time I think it was this lastmajor.
(15:59):
He was commenting that one ofthe guys shot 80, right In those
really, really tough conditions, and he said in there and he
commented in our group chat andhe said I could shoot that and
I'm sitting there and I'm like Idon't know if you could and
those conditions.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, And whenever we get out to where that course is,
I will quickly make some moneyto prove Parker that he was very
incorrect in that assumption.
but I love the confidence aboutit.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I saw, like I saw, joel Damon's caddy which he was
on full swing Yep, he's a reallygood golfer Like obviously he's
not pro level, but he proceededto play that same exact course.
What course was that?
By the way, i'm not like mybrain's just.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh, kill Oh kill.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yep, okay, he proceeded to shoot.
I want to say I believe it waslike mid eights on that course.
That course is so much harderthan you know people that are
just watching it you knowthey're sitting there like why
the heck is he struggling outthere?
Well, that rough is like sixinches deep, man, like it's.
it's truly penalizing.
(17:03):
and you go to these other likemunicipal courses or courses
that we play It's.
you know, if you don't find thefairway, you're still able and
you're still managing to getonto the green.
It's not that big of a penalty.
but I think that's anotherthing that people don't realize
And that's something that Irealized after watching and
being on this podcast for therecaps is understanding, dude,
these courses that some of theprofessionals play.
(17:24):
they're no joke man There'snothing.
I have ever played before.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Let's just say that, yeah, and who will be coming up
on the channel, i think, laterthis week is Jeffrey.
He went on and played a capallure, where the century
tournament of champions isplayed, and they light that
course up in.
Jeffrey, who's a good golfer,was like dude.
That course is insanely hard.
So the fact that they're ableto go out and generate that low
(17:49):
of number is crazy.
They're just playing adifferent ball game than what we
were playing And, like their 72is completely different than if
we were to shoot 72.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And that's another like my final thought on this to
kind of close out thisconversation.
Yeah, so what's coming on lateron the channel is we already
mentioned this We had a 3V3scramble on the page and we had
some really really good golfers.
I'm talking a conferencechampion, jaden And then we had
(18:20):
multiple club fitters that arethey've all been in the mid 70s
before in their golf game.
You had a, a women's golfer.
She was.
She was a collegiate golfer.
Now she is assistant at Barry.
Am I correct on that?
It's something used to be.
She's not anymore, yeah, yeah,but her name is Anna and she was
a beast on the course.
(18:41):
Then you have me.
You know somebody that's tryingto break 80.
All I'm trying to say is eventhe difference between me, who's
like an 11 handicap compared to, i think the next worst person
that we played with was probablylike a five or six handicap on
either team.
I think night and day, like thedifference between the
difference between me and thenext worst person.
(19:04):
I mean it was almost.
It was almost laughable.
Like you will see that videoand be like Zach.
You didn't even contribute.
That's the point.
I was there just to kind of likehit some shots and show off how
good of golfers like are reallyreally out there, especially in
those scramble formats.
So to that point of you talkingabout, you know, pga guys on
(19:24):
tour and they're like shockedthat they're shooting 80, 81.
Promise you, if I went outthere I could not break a
hundred.
Like it's just it's night andday for me to a five handicap.
I can't even imagine what thedifference is between me and
like John Rom, like it's got tobe, it's got to be out of this
world different.
And that's that's just thefinal thought I had on that is
(19:45):
is you'd be, you would besurprised about how incredible
some of these golfers are,especially the ones on TV.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, i agree.
But okay, we'll close out withone final point.
A lot of times, like on golf TV, what we're watching is the
players who are really hot thatweek.
So they're rarely going to showthe golfer who's really
struggling, who's like shootingplus seven for the week or
something like that, to see justhow much that player was
(20:13):
struggling and just how for lackof a better term right now just
how human he was that week.
So it's something that doesn'treally get talked about enough.
But, like, if you go out andwatch a golf tournament, not
every player is hitting thegreen every single time, but the
majority of times they are.
That's what makes them sofreaking good, but right, it's
(20:34):
going.
You know you're a 10 handicapAnd I love it.
Man, you put a lot of work intobecoming a 10 handicap, bro.
Like I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I did I have, and you know I really enjoy like the
grind of it all.
But I'm also really reallyexcited to kind of reset because
I know like in the long runit's going to make me that much
better, especially when we sitdown and break down my swing and
be like, okay, how many reps ofwhat do I need to do every
single day?
Because the final thought I'llhave on that is I'm taking a
(21:07):
full month off on the course andwe're just straight up
practicing working through myswing, because we've got a lot
of video that's like filmed andalready pre-recorded and stuff
for the page.
So I'm excited what's going tocome and we will.
I'll definitely keep you guysupdated.
So sounds good.
If you guys are enjoying thepodcast, please give it a share,
(21:28):
give it a good rating.
You know we're really enjoyingthis process, jordan and I and
everybody else on the pure golfteam.
It's a lot of fun.
When are you going to releasethis podcast, jordan?
this is coming out tomorrow,friday, perfect, and then we
will have a tournament recap foryou guys next Monday as well.
So stay tuned for all of that.
(21:50):
Love you guys, and we will talkto you guys later, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Are you ready for the golf shot draft?
I want to set some rules in theplace, because it's a very
loose draft that I presented toyou today.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
One sec.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm, by the way, coming up with this on the fly
because I have so many differentshots that I want to be able to
really really do.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
How many rounds are we going to do?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So we're going to do.
All right, let's introduce thedraft.
The draft is five rounds ofchoosing the golf shot that you
would most like to have.
Okay, so?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
we're going to give you the first pick.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, in the bag.
And keep in mind your yardagesare what they are.
Okay, you can't just be like Iwant to hit the 350 yard drive.
You didn't turn into Roryovernight, your shots are what
they are.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We're talking.
We're talking shot shaping.
That's what we're talking rightnow.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So we're talking shot shaping, but also, like I don't
want to give anything away, itcan be any shot in the bag.
Yeah, yeah, i agree with youLike.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't want to box myself into just the shot shapes
.
There's multiple things thatyou're you're able to do.
Okay, yeah, yeah, do I want toget creative on your digits?
Are you giving me the first?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm giving you first pick.
Yeah, cause I.
I have some.
I have some options down here.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, like this is like near and dear to me and I
don't want to be so lame on thisfirst, this first one but it's
as somebody that's like a 10, 11, 12 handicap.
it's something that I just wantin the bag more than ever
before, and I'm going to givesome backstory to it, but I just
want a straight shot right downthe middle that I can just
(23:27):
consistently rely on.
And that's the most boring pick.
Is that off the T box?
Oh, are we just?
are we?
do we need it off the tee box?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You gotta clarify.
You can't just say I just needthe straight shot, so are you
talking off the tee, or okay,yeah, let's go, let's go, let's
go off the tee box, since I justproceeded to lose eight balls
on my last round.
Okay, so we're gonna go off forthe fairway finder.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm looking for the fairway finder man, and the
reason why is because I mean,you've seen it.
You saw it the last time thatyou saw me play my swing.
Right now, dude, i'm playinglike a 30 40 yard pull to the
left and it's so Tough to likedeal with right now and it's so
frustrating Because sometimes itdoesn't pull and then it just
goes directly right because I'mlined up so far right, right.
(24:16):
Um, i know that's a boring pick, but for my sanity I need that
pick as the number one pick.
It's near and dear to me.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, i think that's.
I think for many golfers That'sthe almost unanimous selection
of.
If I could just get off the tee, i think I could enjoy my round
of golf.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I can do you.
Do you want me to get morespecific on that fairway finder?
Yeah, i'm a little more specificif you need to go for it, tell
the audience what you're lookingfor off that T-Bus to give it a
little pizzazz, i would love tohit like one of those low
stingers off the tee.
Keep it below the wind And just.
I mean.
You see it on YouTube all thetime.
You watch some YouTube golfersbe able to do it.
It's a gorgeous shot, right.
(24:55):
It is usually do it with like a, like a high iron or or maybe
even a three-wood or somethinglike that.
So my answer is a low stingeroff the tee that is perfectly
right down the middle.
Every single time I will takethat as my fairway finder.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, so what?
it rolls out a good bit, itfinds the fairway just keeps
rolling down the hill.
Okay, okay, i'm gonna take theopposite end of the spectrum on
my number one pick.
I'm going to go with the kneeknocker.
Putt that if I could just bankon that going in every time, as
opposed to, you know, hands andknees shaking as I'm over it, of
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being like I'm supposed to makethis, but I don't know that I'm
gonna make this.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I can't okay.
So what?
what is that knee knocker toyou I can't give you, just like
all intermediate putts.
You have to tell me sure.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So for me, range that's around like it's that,
for me It's that distance thatyou're just like.
Everybody around me in my groupthinks that I'm going to make
this, but I'm not confident thatI'm going to make this.
It's so probably we're lookingat three feet seven inches.
It's probably a three footseven inch putt that I would
like to make every single time.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Dude, there are so many times in our last scramble,
the 3v3 at Stonebridge becauseI don't know if you're gonna cut
up this video into differentepisodes or not, but we played a
3v3 scrambled Stonebridge and Iwas the worst one in my group
and there were so many timeswhere the two other guys in my
group are like, hey, zach, justgo ahead and finish that, like
as in, like the putt waswhatever, and I'm sitting there,
i'm like Feel like I need toline this one up, just to be
(26:25):
sure.
But also I didn't want to, ididn't want to waste time, i
guess.
So then I would then proceed totell Jaden or Harrison but hey,
you guys, just finish out yourshot.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's what I would say right, guys finish it, you
know.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, and I would avoid that knee knocker putt.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's, it really gets to your head and as soon as you
miss one It's like ah, it's alldownhill from there And it's not
like you gain confidence frommaking one.
You need to make like five orsix to really gain some
confidence, because you're gonnasee it again later in the round
.
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I I agree with that.
I think that's a good, solidpick because I think it's very
underrated when it comes to alot of these shots that we're
gonna bring up.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's true.
I mean you're driving for dough.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, you're putting driving for show.
I have your putting for dough.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm putting for dough .
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
My next shot.
I want to add a little morepizzazz to my team, i Think
because I've gotten inspirationfrom a lot of the short game
players out there, if I'm ableto consistently rely on opening
a 60 degree and Just beautifullyflop shotting it onto the green
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.
I know you always need thatconsistent short game club in
the bag and for me it's apitching wedge.
You know a bump and runpitching wedge is my consistent
shot.
But as of late, i've run intothat situation where, hey, i've
got to chip this thing over abunker on a short-sided pin and
I need this thing to kind ofhave a little bit of nip, not
able to trust that at allwhatsoever right now.
(27:57):
So if I'm able to control myshort game with that type of
flop shot and And consistentlyrely on it, first off, i'd get
respect from everybody I'mplaying with.
Secondly, to rely on that shotI feel like would be beautiful,
that would be my favorite shot.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You should do a YouTube video of simply you
trying to hit the flop shot overand over and over.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I agree with that I actually do agree with that.
I think that would be a veryentertaining short game video.
The problem is is that where Igo for Like practicing and
everything there's too many cars, especially directly in shank
range.
You're right, i have been playedover Drilla out of my mind when
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it comes to and there's nowhere that I would have a safe
radius that if I do shank, it'seither I'm lined up directly at
the cars and if this thing goesit's breaking a window, sure, or
I'm lined up the opposite wayand it's killing somebody on
hole nine.
So I Gotta figure out a way todo that on the course sometime.
But that's my number two pick.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, I have that written down as the high flop
land on a dime type of shot.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, the, the, the nippy jizzler.
That's what I've heard onYouTube as well the nippy
jizzler.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, i'm for that title all day, my gosh.
We may have to label thispodcast as a podcast as explicit
, just for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Okay, for me, i'm gonna go.
This is around the greens, thekids, the consistent bunker
splash shot.
Yeah, you get it out of thebunker every single time.
It doesn't hit into the lip andplug in or anything, you know
it.
Just it hits, it just lands inthe middle of the green.
(29:45):
We're not even trying toapproach the pin, we're just
trying to get it in the middleof the green, out of the bunker.
You know?
I agree, i think, yeah, yeah,we're already drafting our teams
right now.
We definitely have the.
The sex appeal is over onZach's side, the consistencies
over on Jordan's side.
Yeah, i agree with that.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I like it.
I like it.
Okay, my next shot That I thinkwould be.
so It'd be a good one to havein the bag, especially for me
ever so recently struggling withlike really, really really long
distance putts.
I want a, a potter, over 30foot putts.
(30:28):
I'll be very specific Over 30foot putts, to put it within two
putt range, and I'll let you,should I, clarify what two putt
range is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I need you to clarify what the two putt range
is of like.
You're trying to get it in thiscircle, but what is that circle
?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's three feet.
That's what I consider.
Three feet Like for two foot,that's when you get outside of
three feet.
That's when I'm like need like,oh crap, this is.
I have to really reallyconsider this.
But anything that starts with atwo in front of it, i feel like
I'm pretty confident to putinto the hole.
So any putt outside of 30 feetto put it within two feet of the
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pin, is that generic or is thatworth?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, i think that's like the easy.
The easy lag putt isessentially what it is.
Yeah, exactly Cause, like whenyou're getting better at golf,
you do hit some green sometimes,but then you got to.
You don't want to choke awaythe green of three putting for
the bogey, right, like that's.
So you're just trying to belike let me get my par, let me
(31:31):
walk off and I'm good.
I don't need to sink the 30footer, i just need to get it
close.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So yeah, Last round I had two birdie opportunities
that just completely were wastedaway because it was over, I
want to say 40, 45 feet atStonebridge And I proceeded to
not get it within that radiusAnd then I proceeded to three
putt.
It was a bogey, made me feelabsolutely horrible.
So yeah, that's the reason whythat is my third pick on my team
(31:57):
.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, i think my next one I'm drafting way too early,
but when I thought of it I waslike I need, i need that shot.
And so what I'll say issometimes as an errant driver of
the golf ball driving the golfball was never my strength Had
some speed, cool But a lot oftimes I found myself in the
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trees.
And when you get in the treesyou're often I know this has
happened to every listener whoplays golf You see the opening
and you're like I could probablysqueeze it through those set of
trees.
And then you look to the rightand you're like but there's an
even tighter group of trees thatwould advance me farther up the
fairway.
And so what I'm calling thisone is the field goal tree shot.
(32:46):
You see the opening, you justlike to lace it through there
And I'm thinking you know alittle pine tree, a little dirt
lie, whatever you're in theforest.
But I just want that consistentout advancement of the fairway,
of hitting it through thewindow that I see, because many
times and you think it's reallyawesome when you're doing this
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you'll hit it through adifferent opening that you
didn't intend to hit through,but all your playing partners
are like oh, great shot Andyou're like, yeah, no, that was
definitely the window I wastrying to go through, right, so
that's what I'm going for.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
The field goal tree shot.
I definitely thought about thatshot But then I was like, well,
if I have my fairway finderstinger that I picked number one
, then I shouldn't have to worryabout that shot.
But I actually I agree with you.
I really like that shot.
It also makes you look cool tothe rest of your group.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It makes you look so cool, but so does the stinger
off the team man Fair, that'sfair.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I agree with that.
All right, we're going to goback to short game.
For my number four pick, it'sthe is it a punch shot?
It's the one where you're offthe green and it's the one hop
stop.
Oh yeah, yeah, because, like,if you're able to get spin on
your chips like that, that isone of the most gorgeous shots.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the one hop spinner.
That's one of the mostunderappreciated shots in golf
for somebody that's my caliber,because nobody can even do that
at my caliber.
So if I'm able to do that, andI'm able to do that gorgeous
flop shot over a bunker and makeit land right next to the pin,
then my short game is consideredelite.
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So I want both of those shots.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So what yardage is that from?
Are you thinking?
I'm?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
gonna say it.
Can I take anything less than50 yards?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Sure 50 yards and in you're going with the one hop
spinner.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.
I don't know if you even canfrom 50 yards out You can?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's just a little bit longer shot.
Yeah, i'll take anything 50yards and in, though That's what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The cart girl is definitely going home with you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Zach, my gosh, i mean the shot arsenal you have See,
i wanna be a consistent golferwhich I'm getting that and also
have enough flash to impresseverybody around me.
So I think my squad is comingtogether pretty nicely right now
.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It is.
But how are you dressed forthis arsenal of shots?
Are you dressed kind ofpristine, like how are you
showing up to the course for thearsenal of shots?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
If I have all of these shots in my arsenal, i may
have to pull out the old RickyFowler like orange on orange or
something like that.
Like we're going, we'restanding out is what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, so we're going fluorescent colors, We're
definitely.
we have our pure golf bag withus.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
We're definitely gonna get okay.
It's like I've got enough shotsin the bag now that I can be
like an ego maniac when I get onthe course and be that type of
guy that walks up, calls the proshot and be like, hey, what's
the course record?
I'd be one of those guys.
Yeah, i'm sounding like acomplete and utter dick right
(35:53):
now.
Not a dick, but just a like acocky person right now.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Promise you, i'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But those are all the shots to encompass somebody
that's really really good atgolf.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But when you get really, really good at golf,
this is what we have to lookforward to.
Pure golf community.
Zach in fluorescent clothescalling calling courses before
he gets there of what is thecourse record.
I like this version of Zach.
I don't think I can be.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I say that but I don't think I could ever do that
because I would be soembarrassed by how insane I look
that it would affect my golfgame.
You know, it's like you lookgood, you play good.
I would look like a completeand utter idiot if I tried to
dress like Ricky Fowler outthere.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Our comment section would explode with people that
hated you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We would have people unfollow us.
after watching the video, ithink I would unfollow us.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's fair.
I would unfollow too.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I would just stop posting if I ever dressed in
that I love this.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Okay, pick number four One sec.
I got to update my list overhere.
Okay, i'm going to go.
I didn't find myself thereoften, but I think it's.
the hardest shot in golf is the100 yard bunker shot.
You're in the fairway bunker.
You don't like the looks ofgetting out of that fairway
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bunker And I think I thinkalmost any golfer would love to
say like I'm just on the greenautomatically if I have this
shot in the bag because, it'salso one you can hardly practice
like.
What driving range has thatopportunity to practice?
Agreed?
So I'm going the flat lie.
I'm not going to say downhilllie or uphill lie in the bunker,
(37:32):
just the flat lie.
Fairway bunker.
Get it on to the hole fromabout 100 yards.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So can we call you an escape artist?
after you get all these, allthese shots in your bag, you've
got the field goal out of thewoods If you got the perfect
splash shot out of the bunker ona on a short side of green
bunker, and then you've got the100 yard bunker as well in your
arsenal.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, you've noticed I haven't taken a tee shot yet.
I think you're finding my orderof importance as I as I go
through this.
No, you're definitely on to me,definitely on to me.
I love it, i love it Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, one shot that I want in general and it doesn't
count for this draft.
But before my final pick, ijust want to say I want to push,
draw, just as my shot shape ingeneral.
I think that would be.
That is the sign of somebodythat's on plane and a good
golfer.
So we talk about that all thetime with my swing, and that's
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really, really what I want.
Obviously, that's not going tobe my fifth and final pick, but
my fifth and final pick, dude, iwant to go trick shot route.
I do, after having all theshots that I have in my bag so
far.
I want to go trick shot.
I just want to make this lastone just very, very fun And it
would just increase the views onall of our social media.
It is the shot that skips offthe water onto the green.
(38:52):
You know those guys at theMasters I think it's on hole 13
in earlier rounds.
They'll do that in practiceround.
Sorry, excuse me.
They will try and skip the balloff the water onto the green.
I think John Rahm made it oneyear, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, a couple of guys have made it through the
history of the time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, i mean, it's such a flex when it comes to
your golf game.
Obviously, it doesn't help mewhatsoever when it comes to my
actual golf game.
Well, i guess it could, butit's all for show.
It's literally all for show.
But if I had that as my fifthand final shot in the bag, i may
have to rock the Ricky Fowler2012 like fit Excuse me, like
(39:36):
that.
That, literally.
I mean, that's the best way forme to round out my top five in
terms of shots.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's amazing that we've also come full circle in
this podcast too, because if youwere now at Stonebridge hole
number nine, as we referencedearlier, you would be dressed
like Ricky Fowler.
You'd be like you know what?
guys, i'm not going to be thelayup shot for this scramble
round of golf.
I'm going not over the water,i'm skipping the ball on the
(40:06):
water, going directly on it.
Yeah, my teammates aren't goingto tell me what to do.
The clubfitter and theconference champion they're not
telling me what to do.
I'm creating my path forwardand I'm skipping the ball.
What club do you want to beable to do this with?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I feel like I got to go like four iron right
Something really low Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I will tell you, if you pulled that shot off, we
would have gotten at least amillion views of like you're
just trash talking to Jayden andHarrison, stepping up in all
orange and skipping it acrossthe water and flagging it.
That would have been.
That's what we're all here for.
Man, it doesn't matter if youhave any of these other shots in
your arsenal.
That's the one that we're afternow.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I can't argue that right.
That's you know.
I was strictly there for beingon camera and trying to, you
know, attract more views on theYouTube.
That's literally the onlyreason why I was there.
I wasn't there for performance,and that would be the one shot
that I would have to hit all day.
I could just go home after that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, i think we all could have gone home after that
Great.
Agreed.
Yeah, i'm with you on that one.
Okay, okay.
So yours was the skip acrosswater shot.
Okay.
My final one is you notice I'mtaking a tee shot.
Probably should take a tee shotto appease the viewers.
(41:32):
So it's ironic that you saidthat you would love to hit a
push draw.
So I'm going to take the pushdraw, the high wow, how am I
going to say this?
The high draw driver off thetee is all I'm after.
I don't need it to go super farAnd it's not even a fairway
finder, it's just the consistentshot shape.
(41:54):
You already locked up thefairway finder.
I'm covered that if I'm in therough, if I'm in the fairway
bunker, if I'm in the trees, i'mgood.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I need to see that shot shape.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yep, you're an escape artist.
And, by the way, on yourfairway finder, are you taking
driver?
I just wanted to clarify.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, i feel like that's not fair.
Okay, in regards to me hittinga low stinger, i know you can
with the driver, yeah, but Ifeel like, in realistic
expectations, i feel like thatwould be a three wood for me,
wouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, The $25 or three wood from Plain Against
Sports.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I just want to look at My favorite club in the back.
I will forever and always saythat.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So that's amazing that 25, we're out there
spending hundreds of dollars ongolf equipment.
Zach walks into Plain AgainstSports and is like you know what
?
This is the one for me.
That's incredible to me.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's done its job so far.
I think it's because the other$25 three what I had previously
was made for an old man, in thesense of it was the fattest, it
was the thickest face It waswide.
It was vertically thick Like upand down There was a thick boy
for a three wood And I think,just for my eyesight sake and my
(43:10):
looking down on the golf ball,it's given me more confidence
knowing that I don't have an oldman three wood.
I just have an old three woodinstead of an old man three wood
that is made for me and is $25.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
For reference for the viewers.
His old three wood is, like youknow, if you look down at your
three wood, like there's aportion of the ball that's
standing above the three woodFrom Zach's old three wood.
The club itself is probablytaller than the ball.
It was like it could be calleda mini driver, but it was
absolutely.
It was grotesque.
And when I looked down at it Iwas like how are you playing
(43:44):
this Like?
this makes it look, this makesthe ball look so small.
Why are you doing this toyourself?
And within a week, i think yougot a new club after that.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Oh yeah, no, i was asking you because I was looking
down at that three wood and Ithought it was like offset, like
it literally was under somebodythat didn't have a good swing,
like literally.
And I remember going to Jordanand I said Hey, man, i'm just
curious because my hands arelike set way too far forward, it
feels like.
And Jordan was like Oh yeah,absolutely, you needed like
(44:16):
throw this thing in the trash.
So yeah, it's now chilling inmy garage.
If that was, my next questionis where is it now?
Yeah, it's chilling in mygarage.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If any of you fellow will do a giveaway for it, Oh my
gosh, if we give away that, Iam all for it.
dude, Oh my gosh, Our firstgiveaway is an absolute piece of
crap club.
You were again.
you get so many unfollows.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
So you can leave this in the pod if you want, But I
was talking to Arianna.
we're talking about potentialgiveaways for the viewers when
it comes to like our Instagramspecifically.
And he was talking about, yeah,you should maybe, like you know
, give away some golf balls,some Provy once and really nice
golf balls and you should havemultiple winners.
How about we do like we havethe top two winners that both
(45:04):
get Provy ones, But then if youare the third place person, you
don't even get a reward.
You get my trash, which is myold three wood.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
that is a $25 three wood that I got from play.
I love it.
It is the most insulting thingyou could do.
Like you get the viewers hopesup for some new golf balls and
then third place comes in andlike this sucks.
Like it's actually it's.
It's very present in my house,like is awful and it's going to
(45:33):
make me a worse golfer.
So I'm very curious where wefound it, where we find it from
there after diners, oh, agreed.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I really hope somebody close to us wins it and
I can send him my literalgarbage that's sitting in my
garage.
It's like a.
It's a win for me because I canclear some space in the garage
and then it's also, you know,it's not a win for them.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I was about to say it's a way to stay in on their
very existence.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's a win lose for sure for them.
But it's, it's part of theraffle, right?
It's part of the the contest.
You don't know if you're goingto get something really good or
really really horrible.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I actually love this concept for our giveaways moving
forward, you could actuallylike win a form of the lottery,
or you could actually lower thevery existence of your life.
I love the risk reward ofentering the pure golf giveaways
.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I'm thinking about that.
I'm also thinking we do the, wedo the golf balls right.
We get you either win, you know, a gorgeous pack of Provy ones,
a gorgeous pack of TP fives, um, and then the third place gets
12 waterlogged golf balls.
I found out at the WoodlandHills.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yes, Yes, there, i love what we're building here,
because what we're going to findourselves doing as a company is
going out and making terriblepurchases for giveaways and
we're actually going to bespending company money on bad
giveaway stuff And I think it'sgoing to be a hit with some of
the, with some of the followers.
Man, i think it will beabsolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Um have you, did we finish thedraft?
Is that five rounds of fiverounds?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That is the five rounds of the draft We'll close
it out with.
Here's Zach's team is thefairway finder, the I'm going to
get this wrong The nippyjizzler Is that what we call it.
It's the no.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
No-transcript.
Yeah, did we say the nippyjizzler?
No, we said the nippy jizzlerfor the one hop stop.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I did the flop shot over The high flop was called
the nippy jizzler.
You did it really regret Thatwas called the nippy.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You're right.
Wait then, what's the one hop?
no, the one hop stop is calledthe one hop stop.
I'm sorry that's just me justscrewing up.
Yes, the nippy jizzler is theflop shot, landing right next to
the green with a lot of spin.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
For Zach's team that's listening.
I just want you to know that healready got your name wrong.
He drafted you, he signed youand then he got your name wrong,
so I don't know about this.
Okay, so we have fairway finder, the nippy jizzler, the lag
putt to within three feet, theone hop spinner Yep And the skip
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across the water shot with thefour iron.
Oh yeah, okay, jordan's team isthe knee knocker putt, which is
exactly three feet seven inchesthat he holds every single time
.
We have the bunker splash.
We have the field goal treeshot, the fairway bunker shot
(48:33):
and the high draw off the teewith the driver.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
It's a pretty good array of shots that we both have
.
I like it.
I agree And we don't reallyhave the approach shot in.
We've got the big shot off thetee and then we've got a lot of
short game stuff, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
We do, and we're gonna be terrible once we are
both on the fairway.
But if I'm in the trees I'mgood because I got the field
goal shot.
So good luck getting to thegreen, bro.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I feel like we should both be pretty confident trying
to get up and down however Surewe're gonna save par every
single time.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Anything else to tell the viewers before we head out?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
When is this going on ?
What podcast?
This is all tomorrow.
This is all tomorrow, okay.
Well, hopefully you guys enjoy.
Like I said, if you guys wantto support the page, want to
support the podcast.
I've had some people DM meabout the podcast because
they've reached out to me aboutthrough Messenger and Facebook
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Messenger, instagram stuff andthey're asking about specific
things, whether it comes to howwe're filming all that types of
stuff, and I've had a few peoplesay, hey, you guys have a
podcast too, right.
I was like, yeah yeah, so we gotsome people that are now
listening coming in from thedifferent platforms, which is
really encouraging.
So if you guys are enjoying thepodcast, if you guys are
(49:59):
enjoying the content, please,like I said earlier, give it a
nice rating.
share it to somebody that mayenjoy.
Just two dudes talking aboutgolf.
man, we're just really enjoyingit And yeah, that's literally
all I've got.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Okay, i'm gonna add on to that.
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the podcast.
And I'm gonna be honest, thereviews don't bump us up in the
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They just tell other people whocome across our platform what
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Just give us something Andmaybe we'll choose a lucky
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That may be a reward.
Guys, thank you so much forjoining us and thank you for all
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that you do for us.
It's literally not possiblewithout them.
So thank you for making both ofour dreams come true and being
able to do this kind of fulltime.
So that is all for us, and havea wonderful day.
Peace out, guys.
What is going on?
everybody, my name is Jordanand thank you for joining the
Pure Golf Podcast today.
Today, zach and I you know, wedid a lot of talking.
We did a lot of talking, had alot of funny moments.
So this one isn't going to beas edited, because we're just
kind of like flying off the cuffa lot of times And I love that.
(00:25):
The viewers kind of want tohear us not keep it so serious
many times, but to just kind oflike let it play out, and so
we're going to do that.
There's not much editing thathas happened here.
It's just us talking.
We do a draft about the bestgolf shots that we would like to
have in our bag, which is veryentertaining.
(00:47):
We also we started out thepodcast with Zach bringing out a
stat of just how inconsistentprofessional golfers can be and
how that kind of makes us feelas average golfers, and by
average golfers I mean amateurgolfers who are not professional
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in any sense of the word.
Other than that.
Just a random text that came myway that I am going to share
with you guys from Lauren Shoutout to Lauren, and it was just
like a little brain teaser.
What if it has nothing to dowith golf, but we're just
putting it in here anyways.
And the text read what ifAristotle was pronounced like
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Chipotle?
And that leads us withAristotle, and I kind of I kind
of liked how that sounded.
So I'm just going forward.
If we ever talk aboutphilosophy in on the Pure Golf
podcast, we're just going to gowith Aristotle, because I really
just I dug this and she willvery much appreciate that we
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mentioned her in the podcasttoday.
So shout out to Lauren, she'sthe best.
I'm going to send it over towell, myself for announcements.
Zach makes some announcementslater in the podcast.
We're just keeping them inthere to remind you, hey, what's
coming up this week.
So that'll do it for me here.
Now over to the announcementsWhat's up guys?
(02:17):
Okay, so the announcements.
This week.
On Wednesday we had a podcastrelease talking about why free
golf help isn't actually freeand is actually costing me more.
Zach also released a video onYouTube for our channel
detailing what happened to himwhen he played three rounds of
golf in three days.
(02:37):
It's pretty funny and it alsogives you just some perspective
of how hard it is to do and whata wear and tear it takes on
your body.
So why recovery is so important.
Today we are obviously releasingthe draft podcast and the how
inconsistent our professionalgolfers podcast, and then, aside
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from that, on Saturday Zach isreleasing a match play video on
YouTube, and on Monday we willbe doing a tournament recap for
the PGA tournament that justkicked off, actually just a
couple of hours ago.
So we'll be recapping that onSunday night and we'll be
posting that very early 6am onMonday morning for anybody who's
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driving to work or anybody whojust wants to tune in and hear
what's going on in the world ofthe PGA.
So, yeah, we don't do live here, not yet, at least not yet.
So, all right, guys, have awonderful day and thank you for
joining.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
John Sherman on Twitter is at practical golf.
Just to make sure our sourcesare very clear.
He tweeted this today oryesterday and I wanted to just
kind of get your thoughts aboutit because I think it's so true,
especially for somebody like mewho has a score goal and we're
talking about.
You know, i'm trying to break80 right now.
(03:58):
So he tweeted a pro golfer went80, then 63 over the weekend.
A 15 handicapper at the localMuni says I want to be more
consistent and a pro golfer justdid that.
So I just want to talk abouthow I feel like people have
(04:18):
these expectations over theirown game, over other people's
games that they are veryfamiliar with, like my friends,
for example And I just want toget your thoughts on.
For us as golfers, how shouldwe approach our scores?
And when you see a tweet likethat showing that a golfer, like
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a pro, professional golfer,just shot an 80, then a 63 and
it's that drastic for him, howshould we, as amateur golfers,
approach our own golf games?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I mean be realistic, you know, like didn't we just
see that at the PGA championship, like we saw a lot of guys
shoot in the 80s, right, and Ithink it's.
I would ask you in response oflike, what is your low end?
What is your high end right now?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I've been better at analyzing my game after the
round and really just sittingdown and thinking, okay, what
are the positives I can takeaway from this round and what
are things that I need to workon.
So the last round that I playedI already told you this, jordan
I had I hit at least eight ornine balls out of bounds in some
(05:36):
way.
Somehow, i still was managingto shoot.
I think I shot a 91 on the day,and this and this is coming
from a guy that is trying tobreak 80.
So I sit down and be like, okay, well, obviously, the main
thing I need to work on is offthe team.
It was just absolutelyatrocious.
However, i can take away, therest of my game was pretty,
(05:57):
pretty good in response to that.
Like, if I kept the ball inplay, that's eight or nine
strokes.
Right there I'm fighting tobreak 80 at that point, and the
reason why I even brought thistweet up to you because I think
it's a pretty good discussionstarter A lot of my friends are
guys that are people that aretrying to break 100, people that
are trying to break 90.
(06:18):
They have they have their ownscore goals right, and I feel
like handicap is a big part ofthat where it's like oh, i'm
trying to lower my handicap, i'mtrying to become a scratch
golfer A lot of golfers talkingthat in those terms, right.
So when I tell people that Ipersonally am like a 10 or a 11
handicap I think I'm playinglike an 11 right now And then I
tell people oh yeah, my roundtoday, you know, i shot upper
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eights, i just shot low ninesPeople are like and you're an 11
handicap, what's going on?
And I feel like a lot of peoplewhen they hit that one singular
score to lower their handicap,it all of a sudden is this
mindset shift of oh, i should beshooting that score every
single time, like there's thisexpectations for it.
(07:03):
Like you've arrived, you'vearrived when you shot that low
score right Exactly, and we'vetalked about this before on our
podcast.
Golf is such an up and downgame And when you're working on
something in your swingspecifically, your score is most
likely going to balloon anyways.
And I just wanted to.
I just wanted to get yourthoughts on it because you, as a
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swing coach, have had multiplepeople come in talking about you
know they have a score goal,they have their own handicap.
What is your response tosomebody that had that exact
reaction that my friends do?
Like I told them yeah, you know, they know I'm trying to break
80.
And then all of a sudden Ishoot a 91.
They're like are you okay, dude?
Like are you sure you're an 11handicap?
(07:44):
So what's your response as aswing coach?
I'm really curious of yourthoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Like I don't have the exact percentage here Majority,
high majority of golfers whenthey walk in the door for the
first time are the number.
one thing is I just want to bemore consistent.
right, and I think this is justthe stat that you're throwing
out is not uncommon where we seea golfer go really in a PGA
(08:12):
tour professional golfer goreally low and then really high,
like within that tournament orwithin a couple tournaments of
each other, like what the frJohn Rom is no longer a plus 10.
He shot like a 75 hand.
He shot a 75 today.
I think it's the hardest sportto be really consistent at.
you know, it is when the driveris going well.
(08:38):
life may be a little bit easierbut life may also be a little
bit harder.
You know I am.
I think you would have givenpraise to the God above for a 91
with how poorly you drove theball that day, right Like It was
it was.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
let's say I was.
I was excited when the roundended about how well I played on
every other part of my game,right So, saving Bogey on a lot
of those holes.
I mean it was Stonebridge.
We just finished recordingthere and I went back and played
there And I mean, dude, some ofthe positions I was in I'm
sitting there.
I'm like the fact that Ipersonally was able to get up
(09:16):
and down was a miracle.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, the measure of getting better at golf is not
the lowest round you'll evershoot, you know, i think that's
the very hard question to ask.
That's when everything is goingjust perfectly, you're way, but
when everything is goingagainst you, the score you shoot
then is kind of how I measurethe golfer personally of when
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you hit eight shots out ofbounds and you still fire a 91,
that's really freaking goodRight, that's amazing, i agree,
like for me, i'll have to sit inthere like hell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, i mean, this is a plus.
And yeah, to your point.
I think average golfers get sofixated on, you know, for me,
breaking 80, right, and like wehaven't even talked about this
yet.
Like I ended up hurting my backright And you know I've had to
sit out a little bit and you andI are going to sit down and
(10:14):
fully reconstruct my swing, likefully go through, to make sure
that you know this doesn'thappen again because I hurt my
back with such a poor golf swingAnd I think for a little bit in
there I got so fixated withbreaking 80.
When you're videoing everysingle shot that you swing,
trying to like break 80, you getso fixated on it.
It kind of gets, that's allyou're focused on, right, and
(10:36):
then you lose sight of a lot ofother things, like my health and
wellness, you know.
So like it really royallyscrewed my back and now I have
to sit out for multiple weeksjust to make sure that it gets
better.
But I think it's a really gooddiscussion to have for any
average golfers out there,because man, dude, we get so we
get short-sighted when it comesto that stuff, you know.
(10:59):
And yeah, i just wanted yourthoughts on that and just for
that discussion.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, i, knowing your golf game how I do, i'm
thrilled with the 91 dude, ifthat's the punch in the mouth
you take for the day.
I've seen the short game like.
You're not like.
Yeah, you lose some strokes inthe short game and the irons and
stuff like that.
But who doesn't Like it'srarely going to go everything
(11:28):
your way that day, right?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh yeah, and that's another thing too I wanted to
just point out to anybody who'slistening.
Most people know this, but I'mjust gonna remind them.
It's when everything comestogether in your game, when you
shoot your lowest score.
So when people hit that lowestscore, for them is the
expectation that you're justgonna be on in every single
department, every single round.
That's what's crazy to me.
(11:52):
when I had this realization,when I read that tweet last
night, i'm like that's just oneof the truest things I've seen,
and I don't know about you.
This is another question Iwanted to bring up.
Do you think, because we'veplayed a scramble you and I we
played a four man scramblethat's coming out to our YouTube
I think next week actually butdo you think you play better in
(12:15):
a scramble format?
or do you think you play betterin a solo, like solo dolo, like
you're playing your own shotevery single time?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Back when I played golf like a lot more.
I played way better by myselfbecause I couldn't get into a
flow in a scramble of like.
I agree, there was noconsequence for a bad shot And I
couldn't live with that overthe ball.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I agree, i agree with you And I've had this
discussion with my friends aswell.
I feel like in scramble, youknow, like we just filmed that
3B3 in Stonebridge And my rolein the group was, you know, just
put a ball in play and then leteverybody else go.
So, to your point, there was noconsequences, when you know
they had two balls already in agood spot.
(13:00):
So I'm thinking, okay, i'm justgonna swing as hard as possible
right now and try and drive theball as far as possible.
But, yeah, i agree, i think Ipersonally do play better when
it comes to solo stuff because,also, i feel like there's more
course management, right,There's more consideration of,
okay, where do I need to putthis golf ball for the ability
(13:22):
for me to get up and down on apar-five, right, there's like,
if you're not getting on thegreen in two when it comes to
scramble formats, you'reprobably losing to the other
team in that situation.
Sure, and when you're playingsolo, i feel like you're able to
, you're able to play to yourown strengths.
Let's just say that, absolutely.
So those are the two thoughtsthat I had when coming into the
(13:44):
podcast, that I wanted to justbring them up to you and get
your thoughts on both of them.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm curious.
You should run a poll on oursocial media.
Do you play better individuallyor in a scramble format?
Because I'm curious when we getback.
I'll just tack on one morething that you're saying, Like
I'm thinking of hole number nineover at Stonebridge during the
scramble.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, So you, yeah.
so if you're listening to this,it's a par-five, it's the
handicap one.
over at Stonebridge It's aboutwhat would you say?
270, 275 to the water.
So you know, for me that's likea perfect drive getting to the
edge of the water.
For somebody that's a long ballhitter.
they're hitting a three woodright And then from that point
(14:23):
you have the option of laying upand staying safe or hitting
over the water and it's about a205, 210 carry to the pin.
Yeah, this isn't like somelittle creek.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
This is a, this is a body of water to get over.
And just like seeing thestrategy play out between you
and Jaden and Harrison of likeZack is just our, our guy that's
just gonna get the get the ballover the body of water right,
Like you would never play likethat by yourself.
Because there's there's aconsequence, for if I completely
(14:56):
blade this six iron over thewater I'm still screwed right,
But then you have two otherpeople backing you up.
You know there's a lot morefreedom in that situation than
that hole is a very tough golfhole.
It's very tough.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, and you know , what's funny is that when I
went to go play Stonebridgelater that week, i went for it
over the water and I stuck itand then I proceeded to three
putt and made bogey.
So that's fantastic, that's aplace, that's a place.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I mean, i got to ask you before we close out on this
whole handicap thing with yougetting into golf are you amazed
that some of the professionalsshoot as as high of scores as
they do from time to time?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm more surprised than I than I ever thought.
I mean it's you know it goesback to our whole thing, right?
They're professionals, so Iexpect them to shoot, to never
shoot over 80, ever or to shoot80.
I feel like you know that'slike an average golfer talk.
I'm not trying to throw outParker, but he mentioned one
time I think it was this lastmajor.
(15:59):
He was commenting that one ofthe guys shot 80, right In those
really, really tough conditions, and he said in there and he
commented in our group chat andhe said I could shoot that and
I'm sitting there and I'm like Idon't know if you could and
those conditions.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, And whenever we get out to where that course is,
I will quickly make some moneyto prove Parker that he was very
incorrect in that assumption.
but I love the confidence aboutit.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I saw, like I saw, joel Damon's caddy which he was
on full swing Yep, he's a reallygood golfer Like obviously he's
not pro level, but he proceededto play that same exact course.
What course was that?
By the way, i'm not like mybrain's just.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh, kill Oh kill.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yep, okay, he proceeded to shoot.
I want to say I believe it waslike mid eights on that course.
That course is so much harderthan you know people that are
just watching it you knowthey're sitting there like why
the heck is he struggling outthere?
Well, that rough is like sixinches deep, man, like it's.
it's truly penalizing.
(17:03):
and you go to these other likemunicipal courses or courses
that we play It's.
you know, if you don't find thefairway, you're still able and
you're still managing to getonto the green.
It's not that big of a penalty.
but I think that's anotherthing that people don't realize
And that's something that Irealized after watching and
being on this podcast for therecaps is understanding, dude,
these courses that some of theprofessionals play.
(17:24):
they're no joke man There'snothing.
I have ever played before.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Let's just say that, yeah, and who will be coming up
on the channel, i think, laterthis week is Jeffrey.
He went on and played a capallure, where the century
tournament of champions isplayed, and they light that
course up in.
Jeffrey, who's a good golfer,was like dude.
That course is insanely hard.
So the fact that they're ableto go out and generate that low
(17:49):
of number is crazy.
They're just playing adifferent ball game than what we
were playing And, like their 72is completely different than if
we were to shoot 72.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And that's another like my final thought on this to
kind of close out thisconversation.
Yeah, so what's coming on lateron the channel is we already
mentioned this We had a 3V3scramble on the page and we had
some really really good golfers.
I'm talking a conferencechampion, jaden And then we had
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multiple club fitters that arethey've all been in the mid 70s
before in their golf game.
You had a, a women's golfer.
She was.
She was a collegiate golfer.
Now she is assistant at Barry.
Am I correct on that?
It's something used to be.
She's not anymore, yeah, yeah,but her name is Anna and she was
a beast on the course.
(18:41):
Then you have me.
You know somebody that's tryingto break 80.
All I'm trying to say is eventhe difference between me, who's
like an 11 handicap compared to, i think the next worst person
that we played with was probablylike a five or six handicap on
either team.
I think night and day, like thedifference between the
difference between me and thenext worst person.
(19:04):
I mean it was almost.
It was almost laughable.
Like you will see that videoand be like Zach.
You didn't even contribute.
That's the point.
I was there just to kind of likehit some shots and show off how
good of golfers like are reallyreally out there, especially in
those scramble formats.
So to that point of you talkingabout, you know, pga guys on
(19:24):
tour and they're like shockedthat they're shooting 80, 81.
Promise you, if I went outthere I could not break a
hundred.
Like it's just it's night andday for me to a five handicap.
I can't even imagine what thedifference is between me and
like John Rom, like it's got tobe, it's got to be out of this
world different.
And that's that's just thefinal thought I had on that is
(19:45):
is you'd be, you would besurprised about how incredible
some of these golfers are,especially the ones on TV.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, i agree.
But okay, we'll close out withone final point.
A lot of times, like on golf TV, what we're watching is the
players who are really hot thatweek.
So they're rarely going to showthe golfer who's really
struggling, who's like shootingplus seven for the week or
something like that, to see justhow much that player was
(20:13):
struggling and just how for lackof a better term right now just
how human he was that week.
So it's something that doesn'treally get talked about enough.
But, like, if you go out andwatch a golf tournament, not
every player is hitting thegreen every single time, but the
majority of times they are.
That's what makes them sofreaking good, but right, it's
(20:34):
going.
You know you're a 10 handicapAnd I love it.
Man, you put a lot of work intobecoming a 10 handicap, bro.
Like I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I did I have, and you know I really enjoy like the
grind of it all.
But I'm also really reallyexcited to kind of reset because
I know like in the long runit's going to make me that much
better, especially when we sitdown and break down my swing and
be like, okay, how many reps ofwhat do I need to do every
single day?
Because the final thought I'llhave on that is I'm taking a
(21:07):
full month off on the course andwe're just straight up
practicing working through myswing, because we've got a lot
of video that's like filmed andalready pre-recorded and stuff
for the page.
So I'm excited what's going tocome and we will.
I'll definitely keep you guysupdated.
So sounds good.
If you guys are enjoying thepodcast, please give it a share,
(21:28):
give it a good rating.
You know we're really enjoyingthis process, jordan and I and
everybody else on the pure golfteam.
It's a lot of fun.
When are you going to releasethis podcast, jordan?
this is coming out tomorrow,friday, perfect, and then we
will have a tournament recap foryou guys next Monday as well.
So stay tuned for all of that.
(21:50):
Love you guys, and we will talkto you guys later, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Are you ready for the golf shot draft?
I want to set some rules in theplace, because it's a very
loose draft that I presented toyou today.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
One sec.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm, by the way, coming up with this on the fly
because I have so many differentshots that I want to be able to
really really do.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
How many rounds are we going to do?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So we're going to do.
All right, let's introduce thedraft.
The draft is five rounds ofchoosing the golf shot that you
would most like to have.
Okay, so?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
we're going to give you the first pick.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, in the bag.
And keep in mind your yardagesare what they are.
Okay, you can't just be like Iwant to hit the 350 yard drive.
You didn't turn into Roryovernight, your shots are what
they are.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We're talking.
We're talking shot shaping.
That's what we're talking rightnow.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So we're talking shot shaping, but also, like I don't
want to give anything away, itcan be any shot in the bag.
Yeah, yeah, i agree with youLike.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't want to box myself into just the shot shapes
.
There's multiple things thatyou're you're able to do.
Okay, yeah, yeah, do I want toget creative on your digits?
Are you giving me the first?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm giving you first pick.
Yeah, cause I.
I have some.
I have some options down here.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, like this is like near and dear to me and I
don't want to be so lame on thisfirst, this first one but it's
as somebody that's like a 10, 11, 12 handicap.
it's something that I just wantin the bag more than ever
before, and I'm going to givesome backstory to it, but I just
want a straight shot right downthe middle that I can just
(23:27):
consistently rely on.
And that's the most boring pick.
Is that off the T box?
Oh, are we just?
are we?
do we need it off the tee box?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You gotta clarify.
You can't just say I just needthe straight shot, so are you
talking off the tee, or okay,yeah, let's go, let's go, let's
go off the tee box, since I justproceeded to lose eight balls
on my last round.
Okay, so we're gonna go off forthe fairway finder.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm looking for the fairway finder man, and the
reason why is because I mean,you've seen it.
You saw it the last time thatyou saw me play my swing.
Right now, dude, i'm playinglike a 30 40 yard pull to the
left and it's so Tough to likedeal with right now and it's so
frustrating Because sometimes itdoesn't pull and then it just
goes directly right because I'mlined up so far right, right.
(24:16):
Um, i know that's a boring pick, but for my sanity I need that
pick as the number one pick.
It's near and dear to me.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, i think that's.
I think for many golfers That'sthe almost unanimous selection
of.
If I could just get off the tee, i think I could enjoy my round
of golf.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, I can do you.
Do you want me to get morespecific on that fairway finder?
Yeah, i'm a little more specificif you need to go for it, tell
the audience what you're lookingfor off that T-Bus to give it a
little pizzazz, i would love tohit like one of those low
stingers off the tee.
Keep it below the wind And just.
I mean.
You see it on YouTube all thetime.
You watch some YouTube golfersbe able to do it.
It's a gorgeous shot, right.
(24:55):
It is usually do it with like a, like a high iron or or maybe
even a three-wood or somethinglike that.
So my answer is a low stingeroff the tee that is perfectly
right down the middle.
Every single time I will takethat as my fairway finder.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, so what?
it rolls out a good bit, itfinds the fairway just keeps
rolling down the hill.
Okay, okay, i'm gonna take theopposite end of the spectrum on
my number one pick.
I'm going to go with the kneeknocker.
Putt that if I could just bankon that going in every time, as
opposed to, you know, hands andknees shaking as I'm over it, of
(25:30):
being like I'm supposed to makethis, but I don't know that I'm
gonna make this.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I can't okay.
So what?
what is that knee knocker toyou I can't give you, just like
all intermediate putts.
You have to tell me sure.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So for me, range that's around like it's that,
for me It's that distance thatyou're just like.
Everybody around me in my groupthinks that I'm going to make
this, but I'm not confident thatI'm going to make this.
It's so probably we're lookingat three feet seven inches.
It's probably a three footseven inch putt that I would
like to make every single time.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Dude, there are so many times in our last scramble,
the 3v3 at Stonebridge becauseI don't know if you're gonna cut
up this video into differentepisodes or not, but we played a
3v3 scrambled Stonebridge and Iwas the worst one in my group
and there were so many timeswhere the two other guys in my
group are like, hey, zach, justgo ahead and finish that, like
as in, like the putt waswhatever, and I'm sitting there,
i'm like Feel like I need toline this one up, just to be
(26:25):
sure.
But also I didn't want to, ididn't want to waste time, i
guess.
So then I would then proceed totell Jaden or Harrison but hey,
you guys, just finish out yourshot.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's what I would say right, guys finish it, you
know.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, and I would avoid that knee knocker putt.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's, it really gets to your head and as soon as you
miss one It's like ah, it's alldownhill from there And it's not
like you gain confidence frommaking one.
You need to make like five orsix to really gain some
confidence, because you're gonnasee it again later in the round
.
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I I agree with that.
I think that's a good, solidpick because I think it's very
underrated when it comes to alot of these shots that we're
gonna bring up.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's true.
I mean you're driving for dough.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, you're putting driving for show.
I have your putting for dough.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I'm putting for dough .
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
My next shot.
I want to add a little morepizzazz to my team, i Think
because I've gotten inspirationfrom a lot of the short game
players out there, if I'm ableto consistently rely on opening
a 60 degree and Just beautifullyflop shotting it onto the green
(27:35):
.
I know you always need thatconsistent short game club in
the bag and for me it's apitching wedge.
You know a bump and runpitching wedge is my consistent
shot.
But as of late, i've run intothat situation where, hey, i've
got to chip this thing over abunker on a short-sided pin and
I need this thing to kind ofhave a little bit of nip, not
able to trust that at allwhatsoever right now.
(27:57):
So if I'm able to control myshort game with that type of
flop shot and And consistentlyrely on it, first off, i'd get
respect from everybody I'mplaying with.
Secondly, to rely on that shotI feel like would be beautiful,
that would be my favorite shot.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You should do a YouTube video of simply you
trying to hit the flop shot overand over and over.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I agree with that I actually do agree with that.
I think that would be a veryentertaining short game video.
The problem is is that where Igo for Like practicing and
everything there's too many cars, especially directly in shank
range.
You're right, i have been playedover Drilla out of my mind when
(28:38):
it comes to and there's nowhere that I would have a safe
radius that if I do shank, it'seither I'm lined up directly at
the cars and if this thing goesit's breaking a window, sure, or
I'm lined up the opposite wayand it's killing somebody on
hole nine.
So I Gotta figure out a way todo that on the course sometime.
But that's my number two pick.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, I have that written down as the high flop
land on a dime type of shot.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, the, the, the nippy jizzler.
That's what I've heard onYouTube as well the nippy
jizzler.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, i'm for that title all day, my gosh.
We may have to label thispodcast as a podcast as explicit
, just for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Okay, for me, i'm gonna go.
This is around the greens, thekids, the consistent bunker
splash shot.
Yeah, you get it out of thebunker every single time.
It doesn't hit into the lip andplug in or anything, you know
it.
Just it hits, it just lands inthe middle of the green.
(29:45):
We're not even trying toapproach the pin, we're just
trying to get it in the middleof the green, out of the bunker.
You know?
I agree, i think, yeah, yeah,we're already drafting our teams
right now.
We definitely have the.
The sex appeal is over onZach's side, the consistencies
over on Jordan's side.
Yeah, i agree with that.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I like it.
I like it.
Okay, my next shot That I thinkwould be.
so It'd be a good one to havein the bag, especially for me
ever so recently struggling withlike really, really really long
distance putts.
I want a, a potter, over 30foot putts.
(30:28):
I'll be very specific Over 30foot putts, to put it within two
putt range, and I'll let you,should I, clarify what two putt
range is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I need you to clarify what the two putt range
is of like.
You're trying to get it in thiscircle, but what is that circle
?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's three feet.
That's what I consider.
Three feet Like for two foot,that's when you get outside of
three feet.
That's when I'm like need like,oh crap, this is.
I have to really reallyconsider this.
But anything that starts with atwo in front of it, i feel like
I'm pretty confident to putinto the hole.
So any putt outside of 30 feetto put it within two feet of the
(31:09):
pin, is that generic or is thatworth?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, i think that's like the easy.
The easy lag putt isessentially what it is.
Yeah, exactly Cause, like whenyou're getting better at golf,
you do hit some green sometimes,but then you got to.
You don't want to choke awaythe green of three putting for
the bogey, right, like that's.
So you're just trying to belike let me get my par, let me
(31:31):
walk off and I'm good.
I don't need to sink the 30footer, i just need to get it
close.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So yeah, Last round I had two birdie opportunities
that just completely were wastedaway because it was over, I
want to say 40, 45 feet atStonebridge And I proceeded to
not get it within that radiusAnd then I proceeded to three
putt.
It was a bogey, made me feelabsolutely horrible.
So yeah, that's the reason whythat is my third pick on my team
(31:57):
.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, i think my next one I'm drafting way too early,
but when I thought of it I waslike I need, i need that shot.
And so what I'll say issometimes as an errant driver of
the golf ball driving the golfball was never my strength Had
some speed, cool But a lot oftimes I found myself in the
(32:21):
trees.
And when you get in the treesyou're often I know this has
happened to every listener whoplays golf You see the opening
and you're like I could probablysqueeze it through those set of
trees.
And then you look to the rightand you're like but there's an
even tighter group of trees thatwould advance me farther up the
fairway.
And so what I'm calling thisone is the field goal tree shot.
(32:46):
You see the opening, you justlike to lace it through there
And I'm thinking you know alittle pine tree, a little dirt
lie, whatever you're in theforest.
But I just want that consistentout advancement of the fairway,
of hitting it through thewindow that I see, because many
times and you think it's reallyawesome when you're doing this
(33:08):
you'll hit it through adifferent opening that you
didn't intend to hit through,but all your playing partners
are like oh, great shot Andyou're like, yeah, no, that was
definitely the window I wastrying to go through, right, so
that's what I'm going for.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
The field goal tree shot.
I definitely thought about thatshot But then I was like, well,
if I have my fairway finderstinger that I picked number one
, then I shouldn't have to worryabout that shot.
But I actually I agree with you.
I really like that shot.
It also makes you look cool tothe rest of your group.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It makes you look so cool, but so does the stinger
off the team man Fair, that'sfair.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I agree with that.
All right, we're going to goback to short game.
For my number four pick, it'sthe is it a punch shot?
It's the one where you're offthe green and it's the one hop
stop.
Oh yeah, yeah, because, like,if you're able to get spin on
your chips like that, that isone of the most gorgeous shots.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Underappreciated.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the one hop spinner.
That's one of the mostunderappreciated shots in golf
for somebody that's my caliber,because nobody can even do that
at my caliber.
So if I'm able to do that, andI'm able to do that gorgeous
flop shot over a bunker and makeit land right next to the pin,
then my short game is consideredelite.
(34:27):
So I want both of those shots.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So what yardage is that from?
Are you thinking?
I'm?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
gonna say it.
Can I take anything less than50 yards?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Sure 50 yards and in you're going with the one hop
spinner.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.
I don't know if you even canfrom 50 yards out You can?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's just a little bit longer shot.
Yeah, i'll take anything 50yards and in, though That's what
I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The cart girl is definitely going home with you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Zach, my gosh, i mean the shot arsenal you have See,
i wanna be a consistent golferwhich I'm getting that and also
have enough flash to impresseverybody around me.
So I think my squad is comingtogether pretty nicely right now
.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It is.
But how are you dressed forthis arsenal of shots?
Are you dressed kind ofpristine, like how are you
showing up to the course for thearsenal of shots?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
If I have all of these shots in my arsenal, i may
have to pull out the old RickyFowler like orange on orange or
something like that.
Like we're going, we'restanding out is what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, so we're going fluorescent colors, We're
definitely.
we have our pure golf bag withus.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
We're definitely gonna get okay.
It's like I've got enough shotsin the bag now that I can be
like an ego maniac when I get onthe course and be that type of
guy that walks up, calls the proshot and be like, hey, what's
the course record?
I'd be one of those guys.
Yeah, i'm sounding like acomplete and utter dick right
(35:53):
now.
Not a dick, but just a like acocky person right now.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Promise you, i'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But those are all the shots to encompass somebody
that's really really good atgolf.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But when you get really, really good at golf,
this is what we have to lookforward to.
Pure golf community.
Zach in fluorescent clothescalling calling courses before
he gets there of what is thecourse record.
I like this version of Zach.
I don't think I can be.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I say that but I don't think I could ever do that
because I would be soembarrassed by how insane I look
that it would affect my golfgame.
You know, it's like you lookgood, you play good.
I would look like a completeand utter idiot if I tried to
dress like Ricky Fowler outthere.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Our comment section would explode with people that
hated you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We would have people unfollow us.
after watching the video, ithink I would unfollow us.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's fair.
I would unfollow too.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I would just stop posting if I ever dressed in
that I love this.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Okay, pick number four One sec.
I got to update my list overhere.
Okay, i'm going to go.
I didn't find myself thereoften, but I think it's.
the hardest shot in golf is the100 yard bunker shot.
You're in the fairway bunker.
You don't like the looks ofgetting out of that fairway
(37:11):
bunker And I think I thinkalmost any golfer would love to
say like I'm just on the greenautomatically if I have this
shot in the bag because, it'salso one you can hardly practice
like.
What driving range has thatopportunity to practice?
Agreed?
So I'm going the flat lie.
I'm not going to say downhilllie or uphill lie in the bunker,
(37:32):
just the flat lie.
Fairway bunker.
Get it on to the hole fromabout 100 yards.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So can we call you an escape artist?
after you get all these, allthese shots in your bag, you've
got the field goal out of thewoods If you got the perfect
splash shot out of the bunker ona on a short side of green
bunker, and then you've got the100 yard bunker as well in your
arsenal.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, you've noticed I haven't taken a tee shot yet.
I think you're finding my orderof importance as I as I go
through this.
No, you're definitely on to me,definitely on to me.
I love it, i love it Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, one shot that I want in general and it doesn't
count for this draft.
But before my final pick, ijust want to say I want to push,
draw, just as my shot shape ingeneral.
I think that would be.
That is the sign of somebodythat's on plane and a good
golfer.
So we talk about that all thetime with my swing, and that's
(38:27):
really, really what I want.
Obviously, that's not going tobe my fifth and final pick, but
my fifth and final pick, dude, iwant to go trick shot route.
I do, after having all theshots that I have in my bag so
far.
I want to go trick shot.
I just want to make this lastone just very, very fun And it
would just increase the views onall of our social media.
It is the shot that skips offthe water onto the green.
(38:52):
You know those guys at theMasters I think it's on hole 13
in earlier rounds.
They'll do that in practiceround.
Sorry, excuse me.
They will try and skip the balloff the water onto the green.
I think John Rahm made it oneyear, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, a couple of guys have made it through the
history of the time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, i mean, it's such a flex when it comes to
your golf game.
Obviously, it doesn't help mewhatsoever when it comes to my
actual golf game.
Well, i guess it could, butit's all for show.
It's literally all for show.
But if I had that as my fifthand final shot in the bag, i may
have to rock the Ricky Fowler2012 like fit Excuse me, like
(39:36):
that.
That, literally.
I mean, that's the best way forme to round out my top five in
terms of shots.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's amazing that we've also come full circle in
this podcast too, because if youwere now at Stonebridge hole
number nine, as we referencedearlier, you would be dressed
like Ricky Fowler.
You'd be like you know what?
guys, i'm not going to be thelayup shot for this scramble
round of golf.
I'm going not over the water,i'm skipping the ball on the
(40:06):
water, going directly on it.
Yeah, my teammates aren't goingto tell me what to do.
The clubfitter and theconference champion they're not
telling me what to do.
I'm creating my path forwardand I'm skipping the ball.
What club do you want to beable to do this with?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I feel like I got to go like four iron right
Something really low Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I will tell you, if you pulled that shot off, we
would have gotten at least amillion views of like you're
just trash talking to Jayden andHarrison, stepping up in all
orange and skipping it acrossthe water and flagging it.
That would have been.
That's what we're all here for.
Man, it doesn't matter if youhave any of these other shots in
your arsenal.
That's the one that we're afternow.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I can't argue that right.
That's you know.
I was strictly there for beingon camera and trying to, you
know, attract more views on theYouTube.
That's literally the onlyreason why I was there.
I wasn't there for performance,and that would be the one shot
that I would have to hit all day.
I could just go home after that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, i think we all could have gone home after that
Great.
Agreed.
Yeah, i'm with you on that one.
Okay, okay.
So yours was the skip acrosswater shot.
Okay.
My final one is you notice I'mtaking a tee shot.
Probably should take a tee shotto appease the viewers.
(41:32):
So it's ironic that you saidthat you would love to hit a
push draw.
So I'm going to take the pushdraw, the high wow, how am I
going to say this?
The high draw driver off thetee is all I'm after.
I don't need it to go super farAnd it's not even a fairway
finder, it's just the consistentshot shape.
(41:54):
You already locked up thefairway finder.
I'm covered that if I'm in therough, if I'm in the fairway
bunker, if I'm in the trees, i'mgood.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I need to see that shot shape.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yep, you're an escape artist.
And, by the way, on yourfairway finder, are you taking
driver?
I just wanted to clarify.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, i feel like that's not fair.
Okay, in regards to me hittinga low stinger, i know you can
with the driver, yeah, but Ifeel like, in realistic
expectations, i feel like thatwould be a three wood for me,
wouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, The $25 or three wood from Plain Against
Sports.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I just want to look at My favorite club in the back.
I will forever and always saythat.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So that's amazing that 25, we're out there
spending hundreds of dollars ongolf equipment.
Zach walks into Plain AgainstSports and is like you know what
?
This is the one for me.
That's incredible to me.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's done its job so far.
I think it's because the other$25 three what I had previously
was made for an old man, in thesense of it was the fattest, it
was the thickest face It waswide.
It was vertically thick Like upand down There was a thick boy
for a three wood And I think,just for my eyesight sake and my
(43:10):
looking down on the golf ball,it's given me more confidence
knowing that I don't have an oldman three wood.
I just have an old three woodinstead of an old man three wood
that is made for me and is $25.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
For reference for the viewers.
His old three wood is, like youknow, if you look down at your
three wood, like there's aportion of the ball that's
standing above the three woodFrom Zach's old three wood.
The club itself is probablytaller than the ball.
It was like it could be calleda mini driver, but it was
absolutely.
It was grotesque.
And when I looked down at it Iwas like how are you playing
(43:44):
this Like?
this makes it look, this makesthe ball look so small.
Why are you doing this toyourself?
And within a week, i think yougot a new club after that.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Oh yeah, no, i was asking you because I was looking
down at that three wood and Ithought it was like offset, like
it literally was under somebodythat didn't have a good swing,
like literally.
And I remember going to Jordanand I said Hey, man, i'm just
curious because my hands arelike set way too far forward, it
feels like.
And Jordan was like Oh yeah,absolutely, you needed like
(44:16):
throw this thing in the trash.
So yeah, it's now chilling inmy garage.
If that was, my next questionis where is it now?
Yeah, it's chilling in mygarage.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If any of you fellow will do a giveaway for it, Oh my
gosh, if we give away that, Iam all for it.
dude, Oh my gosh, Our firstgiveaway is an absolute piece of
crap club.
You were again.
you get so many unfollows.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
So you can leave this in the pod if you want, But I
was talking to Arianna.
we're talking about potentialgiveaways for the viewers when
it comes to like our Instagramspecifically.
And he was talking about, yeah,you should maybe, like you know
, give away some golf balls,some Provy once and really nice
golf balls and you should havemultiple winners.
How about we do like we havethe top two winners that both
(45:04):
get Provy ones, But then if youare the third place person, you
don't even get a reward.
You get my trash, which is myold three wood.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
that is a $25 three wood that I got from play.
I love it.
It is the most insulting thingyou could do.
Like you get the viewers hopesup for some new golf balls and
then third place comes in andlike this sucks.
Like it's actually it's.
It's very present in my house,like is awful and it's going to
(45:33):
make me a worse golfer.
So I'm very curious where wefound it, where we find it from
there after diners, oh, agreed.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I really hope somebody close to us wins it and
I can send him my literalgarbage that's sitting in my
garage.
It's like a.
It's a win for me because I canclear some space in the garage
and then it's also, you know,it's not a win for them.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I was about to say it's a way to stay in on their
very existence.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's a win lose for sure for them.
But it's, it's part of theraffle, right?
It's part of the the contest.
You don't know if you're goingto get something really good or
really really horrible.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I actually love this concept for our giveaways moving
forward, you could actuallylike win a form of the lottery,
or you could actually lower thevery existence of your life.
I love the risk reward ofentering the pure golf giveaways
.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I'm thinking about that.
I'm also thinking we do the, wedo the golf balls right.
We get you either win, you know, a gorgeous pack of Provy ones,
a gorgeous pack of TP fives, um, and then the third place gets
12 waterlogged golf balls.
I found out at the WoodlandHills.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yes, Yes, there, i love what we're building here,
because what we're going to findourselves doing as a company is
going out and making terriblepurchases for giveaways and
we're actually going to bespending company money on bad
giveaway stuff And I think it'sgoing to be a hit with some of
the, with some of the followers.
Man, i think it will beabsolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Um have you, did we finish thedraft?
Is that five rounds of fiverounds?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That is the five rounds of the draft We'll close
it out with.
Here's Zach's team is thefairway finder, the I'm going to
get this wrong The nippyjizzler Is that what we call it.
It's the no.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
No-transcript.
Yeah, did we say the nippyjizzler?
No, we said the nippy jizzlerfor the one hop stop.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I did the flop shot over The high flop was called
the nippy jizzler.
You did it really regret Thatwas called the nippy.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You're right.
Wait then, what's the one hop?
no, the one hop stop is calledthe one hop stop.
I'm sorry that's just me justscrewing up.
Yes, the nippy jizzler is theflop shot, landing right next to
the green with a lot of spin.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
For Zach's team that's listening.
I just want you to know that healready got your name wrong.
He drafted you, he signed youand then he got your name wrong,
so I don't know about this.
Okay, so we have fairway finder, the nippy jizzler, the lag
putt to within three feet, theone hop spinner Yep And the skip
(48:11):
across the water shot with thefour iron.
Oh yeah, okay, jordan's team isthe knee knocker putt, which is
exactly three feet seven inchesthat he holds every single time
.
We have the bunker splash.
We have the field goal treeshot, the fairway bunker shot
(48:33):
and the high draw off the teewith the driver.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
It's a pretty good array of shots that we both have
.
I like it.
I agree And we don't reallyhave the approach shot in.
We've got the big shot off thetee and then we've got a lot of
short game stuff, you know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
We do, and we're gonna be terrible once we are
both on the fairway.
But if I'm in the trees I'mgood because I got the field
goal shot.
So good luck getting to thegreen, bro.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I feel like we should both be pretty confident trying
to get up and down however Surewe're gonna save par every
single time.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Anything else to tell the viewers before we head out?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
When is this going on ?
What podcast?
This is all tomorrow.
This is all tomorrow, okay.
Well, hopefully you guys enjoy.
Like I said, if you guys wantto support the page, want to
support the podcast.
I've had some people DM meabout the podcast because
they've reached out to me aboutthrough Messenger and Facebook
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things, whether it comes to howwe're filming all that types of
stuff, and I've had a few peoplesay, hey, you guys have a
podcast too, right.
I was like, yeah yeah, so we gotsome people that are now
listening coming in from thedifferent platforms, which is
really encouraging.
So if you guys are enjoying thepodcast, if you guys are
(49:59):
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share it to somebody that mayenjoy.
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man, we're just really enjoyingit And yeah, that's literally
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Speaker 1 (50:13):
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And I'm gonna be honest, thereviews don't bump us up in the
metrics or anything like that.
They just tell other people whocome across our platform what
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So if you really like somebodywho at the show, and if you like
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as much, then write it down.
That's great.
Just give us something Andmaybe we'll choose a lucky
reviewer to send Zach's CrappyGolf Club to as well.
That may be a reward.
Guys, thank you so much forjoining us and thank you for all
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that you do for us.
It's literally not possiblewithout them.
So thank you for making both ofour dreams come true and being
able to do this kind of fulltime.
So that is all for us, and havea wonderful day.
Peace out, guys.
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