July 14, 2023 • 50 mins
Ever wondered how playing golf in a casual round differs from competing in a high-stakes tournament? In our latest podcast episode, we dive deep into tournament golf and decode its intricacies with Parker, an experienced golfer, who recently shot an 84 on the first day but rebounded with a 72 on the second at the New Mexico State Amateur Championship.
Swapping the comfort of casual rounds for the rigorous trials of tournament play, Parker paints a vivid picture of the mental and physical challenges faced, emphasizing the importance of simplicity and a steady mind. Picking up from Parker's experiences, we explore the essential role of resilience and a solid support system in overcoming setbacks and building a competitive edge. We also discuss the temptation and dangers of altering your game plan mid-round, the value of post-round film analysis, and the critical need to trust your instincts and stick to your game plan.
As we wrap up our conversation, we underline the value of preparation in tournament golf. Transitioning from casual to competitive play requires a shift in mindset and the development of a tailored training plan. We offer valuable tips on gaining an edge, from researching the course to devising a custom diet and exercise regimen. Finally, we stress the significance of understanding the competitive environment and ensuring your practice goals go beyond casual golf. Join us for this insightful discussion, filled with practical tips that will benefit golfers at all levels.
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Jordan (00:01):
What is going on everybody?
Welcome to the Pure GolfPodcast.
My name is Jordan.
I will be your host Today.
We are interviewing and by we Imean me and Zach the, the head
of the YouTube channel, zach areinterviewing our actually kind
of another co-host for ourprofessional tournament recaps,
(00:21):
parker.
Parker is a plus two handicap.
He recently has been competingin into more tournament golf
lately, so we had him on todiscuss with Zach, who has never
, ever entered a golf tournament, what is the difference between
tournament golf versus justplaying around with some of your
friends or just you know,walking up to the tee box and
(00:44):
just tee it off and just havinga casual round of golf.
Very entertaining, veryinformative.
If you've never playedtournament golf or if you have
played tournament golf, I thinkthere's a lot to pick up on in
this of just the common mistakestournament golfers make, just
how tournament golf is adifferent beast than than the
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normal round of golf.
But it's also just one of themost addicting feelings in the
game of golf is to go playtournament golf and go and
compete against other people inyour region.
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Zach (02:46):
Today we are talking about competing in tournaments,
compared to just playing anormal round by yourself or with
your boys, or just somethingthat's very, very casual.
So, parker, I know we talkedabout this before we started
recording You've been in themiddle of it.
You have been competing intournaments, you have been
getting after it for the last 14days and I know from talking to
(03:10):
you and talking to Jordan, youhad a pretty intense training
regimen leading up to it.
So, first off, before we beginand really dive into it, how did
you place and how well did youdo over the last two weeks?
Parker (03:25):
Yeah, so on Monday the 26th of June through the 28th
was the New Mexico State AmateurChampionship.
It's the pinnacle kind oftournament of the season,
outside of USGA sanctionedevents, I'd say.
For the state of New Mexico itextends to West Texas, so we get
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a lot of college players out ofColorado, out of West Texas,
out of New Mexico, all the bestguys in those areas that still
reside close and or in theseareas, and then just all the
regular kind of you know, joeSchmoes like me, that are
anywhere from 25, they're mid20s to their mid 40s play in
(04:11):
this tournament and you've gotto have at least three
handicapped to get into it andthere was a field of roughly 72
guys.
I think we had some withdrawals.
People didn't make it all theway through the two, the three
days, but yeah it that startedlast couple of Mondays ago and I
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shot 84 on the first day.
So it was a very humbling firstday.
I played at a golf course that'spretty tough out here.
It's called Black Mesa andpretty much everything off the
rough line is desert and it's alot of undulation, a lot of
slope, a lot of kind of a royalerosion kind of scenarios where
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you really, you really probablywon't find the golf ball in most
cases if you're off of thegrass in some way.
So intimidating off the tee,tight greens, huge slopes,
different tiers, which is a tonof fun.
They grew the rough out.
It was a great test.
Yardage wise came in, you know,from the backs, then they, they
(05:19):
, they kind of played with theboxes over the three days.
But yeah, that was the firstone shot 84.
The first day was prettyhumbled, put in a lot of work
leading up to it, as you said,and, honestly, shooting 84, I
was Jordan, I was in the dumpsLike.
I was just like gosh.
That is so far from the startthat I wanted after the work
(05:44):
that I felt like was someticulous and intentional
leading up toward, in comparisonto last summer, leading up to
this tournament, and so it mademe kind of do some soul
searching.
That day I went and tried tojust keep it simple, went out
and shot 72 the next day, soposted even par and it could
have been better.
I had a three under at onepoint in the day and was really
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trying to.
I was trying to see the sixtiesand maybe just got a little
ahead of myself and made somebogeys coming in.
I had like a four and a halffooter for birdie on 18 to post
thread numbers and it leapt outSecond day or the third day I
had it gone.
I felt like I was playing justas well, as I was the second day
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but unlike my, unlike 12th hole, I went for a pin that I
probably shouldn't have and itwas going to lead to a double.
Like it was just written in thesand like got too aggressive,
needed to take my medicine and Ikind of just have like a mental
(06:46):
breakdown and was like you know, like I'm away from the goal
already If I make double here,when in reality I really had a
lot of golf left, you know, onlythrough 12.
At that point I had a lot ofgolf left and a competitor in my
group asked me to move my coinbecause it was in his way and I
didn't move it back and Ifinished the hole.
So that's a two shot penalty.
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So a six turned into an eightreally quickly and which is even
that was probably the mosthumbling moment of the golf
tournament for me, because likeI felt like I had turned my game
around, I learned from the badstart and I was really going to,
you know, polish off two daysand then to kind of get, kind of
get hit with that, which is myown mistake and it's me being in
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my feels about to make double,you know, making it worse.
So it was humbling, but postedfour over that day.
So 84, 72, 76, were my roundsfor the three days and that came
in T 23rd, which was still inthe money, which isn't a
horrible thing.
I think it was like a $80 proshop script for that.
(07:50):
Nine under ended up winning overthe three days and it was a
back to back champion.
A college player out of NewMexico State University won it
this year and it was back toback.
He won it last year as well.
His name's Aiden Great player.
Really respect his game andjust his overall outlook.
Yeah, he's talking on.
On the first day he shot 66.
(08:11):
And he said he made about 200feet of putts in the first six
holes.
So that's.
Zach (08:19):
That's insane dude.
Parker (08:20):
Yeah, he started.
He started a solid, great event.
I mean I think we should juststart there, maybe.
Yeah, princes that I saw inthat tournament versus I played
six practice rounds for thatevent beforehand.
So to play six practice roundsand shoot 84 on the first day, I
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think I had reached out toJordan one of my practice rounds
.
I had six birdies and twoEagles on one of my practice
rounds.
So, like you know, I think interms of where I am in my game,
like scoring isn't a problem.
We can score, we can.
We can score on the par fivesbecause my length is above
average and it's really like thenumber, the bogies and the
(09:05):
doubles that occurred in andsome of the small things that
just like need so much morepolish.
And I don't want to say caution,but Ben Hogan always, you know,
said his mission in his golfswing was to build something
that was improved in competition.
And like you really understandwhen you're in an event and
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they're announcing your name onthe first tee box and there's 40
college kids in the event, andlike you can feel the atmosphere
just thicken in comparison toplaying with your friends that
like you have it or you don'thave it, there's not like,
there's not an in between, likeyou're either going to be scared
and playing out there or you'regoing to be prepared and
(09:48):
playing out there.
Yeah, you could, just you couldalmost smell it, like in the
people that I played with youknew somebody had it.
I played with a 16 year oldthat shot, that shot even the
same day that I did 16 man andlike local state champion,
fearless, like just fearless.
And then the next morning, likefor some reason, I talked to
(10:09):
him on the range and I was justlike me, seems, seems a little
iffy shot.
He shot for the third day.
So, like you know, likeconfidence comes from the
preparation, but also like theline between you having it and
not having it is pretty damnfine when you're competing Right
(10:30):
and you don't have time to letme just figure this out real
quick.
Let me maybe think about someother swing thoughts.
Let me work on my elbow or makesure I'm shallowed out.
There's just no, you're goingto make double on double, on
double.
If you're kind of thinking likethat, you got to just go play
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with what you got and try towork with it, and so it just
really solidified thoughts forme that I need to put myself in
the environment of competitionin my preparation as much as
possible.
And like I love playing withthe boys Don't get me wrong Like
I like getting out there withmy dad, I've got some buddies
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that I like going to play with.
But if you're really seriousabout taking on some of these
tournaments, I mean it's got tobe like 24, 7, 365 in my opinion
.
If you're really serious got itLike, just keep it tuned up to
that kind of environment becauseit's going to test you.
It's going to test every singlepart of your game, not just
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like you know I drive it well,like I'm going to be fine out
here.
It's going to test every singlepiece of it and it put every
single piece of it underpressure multiple times a day,
if not every hole.
Yeah.
So yeah, it was a for everybodyelse's history like I played a
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lot of competitive golf as ajunior, at the junior level, you
know, like 10 plus years, andthen I took a break for 10 years
and this is kind of like myreturn to competition.
So I think it relates toanybody that wants to get into
it, that that's been away fromit and or is in it now.
Like it it's just another beast,but like man, I love it so much
(12:18):
Like it's just like it's why Iwas, why I play golf.
I got, I love going.
Like I said, I love going outfor a social experience.
But like tournament golf isjust the buzz and the excitement
and the, the, the test of thegame.
I think if you love, if youlove golf enough to try it, you
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you've got to at least putyourself at some point over your
lifetime in it in a competitivetournament at some point during
the year, because it it's just,it's golf.
And we say it's golf to a lotof things, but like it's truly
golf.
Yeah, and it's a blast man Ihad.
(13:04):
I had a ton of fun, yeah.
Zach (13:07):
No, I, I get that, let me, I've got.
I've got a few questions afteryou kind of just laid it out for
me, because to the peoplelistening I didn't know the
story, like I knew some of thescores that that Parker shot,
but I'm hearing it for the firsttime while you guys are hearing
it as well.
So I'm a firm believer in evenin our downfalls or the times
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that we really struggle, you canalways pick something out of
that and then take it with youas a positive right.
So you said in your first day,after all of these weeks of
preparation, you shot an 84.
Okay, and obviously you're alot better than that.
I'm trying to just link it tothe person that is playing every
single you know weekend golfer,that one round with the boys,
(13:52):
right.
What was the one thing that youtook out of that 84?
To make that adjustment, to goout and shoot 72 the next day.
Parker (14:03):
That's a good question.
I mean, I will say you need tomake sure you have support in
this game, like whether it'syour dad, you know your coach,
you know your peer group,whatever it is.
(14:26):
Like I hope, if you're goingafter some competitive golf and
and or you're just playingcasual and you had a bad day and
like you have somebody to reachout to because I put 12
straight weeks of effort intothis tournament.
So after that round I was, Iwas still hungry, but like
(14:49):
you're so tempted to just belike whatever man, like screw it
, like why am I even playingthis game, right, right, what am
I doing out here, you know?
And I reached out to my dad.
He couldn't watch me that day.
He showed up on day two, whichwas cool.
But I reached out to my dad andI reached out to the peer golf
group and I just kind of likeI'm light about, like I'd, I'd
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prefer to joke about my pain alittle bit.
It helps me kind of just startto process it.
So first thing is reach out tosomebody, like don't keep it
internal.
Is is what I, what I thinkcontributed to the turnaround,
because it's easy to think yousuck at this game, it just is
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and, like you know, people talkabout self-talk and they say
things, like you know, it'simportant that you don't beat
yourself up, and that's true,and I don't think I did.
But more than that I did needto pick me up, like I did need
like all right, like let's getback after it, like you got two
days left, you know, like let's,let's keep going.
And so I called my dad and heshared some great thoughts and
(15:54):
he actually spoke from exampleand was like look, I remember
when I was your age and I playedin the to try to qualify for
the California State Amateur,which is different than New
Mexico.
You actually have to qualifyfor the State Am in California.
There's so many people thatwant to play in it.
And same thing happened.
He said he practiced all summerlong, he took some work off, he
(16:16):
did everything he could to beready and he shot like 86 the
first day and he's just like Iwas, you know, shredding it in
practice rounds and he goes.
You know, part of it is justgolf, part of it is the game
testing how, how true you are towanting to do this, and I
guarantee you everybody that'sever tried to get good at this
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house stories like this.
The game's going to test andput entry barriers in your way,
whether it's technical entrybarriers, whether it's mental
entry barriers.
It it's going to just say likeyou really want to do this and
and test, like that line oftemptation that I was kind of
saying you want to, you want tothrow the flag in, or like what
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kind of competitor are you truly?
And I think that was part of it.
You know, like I see parts ofmy game and my swing as, as
Jordan knows that, that wereloose.
You know that didn't hold upwith the pressure for sure.
But also you can't dig, youdon't have time to dig into that
.
You just gotta say like I'mbetter than this, I've got what
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I've got right now.
I need to go put it out theretomorrow and like see what I can
do.
And so just having the supportwas big.
You know I texted our groupchat and you guys were there for
me and, like you know, by maybe90 minutes post round I was
like all right, it's all abouttomorrow.
Like I'm done even thinkingabout today at this point and
it's done like the card is in,the scores are posted, all I can
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do is think about my strategyinto tomorrow.
I got my tee time.
I was gonna tee off on the 10thhole instead of the first hole
on day two, so I immediatelyclicked into like all right,
let's walk through the holes afew times.
What am I hitting off of?
10, 11, 12?
You know what did I see outthere today?
Pin position wise.
You know what can I at leastsharpen going into day two?
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And by the time I got close tothe house I stopped at the golf
course I practiced out of, Iworked on some short game, I
worked on some putting, I madezero swing adjustments and just
work on developing one confidentswing thought before I started
the next day and went out.
And you know it was night andday.
(18:27):
You know I got starting on 10,man, my dad showed up, which was
cool, you know I love when he'sout there and supporting and
watching.
But like 10th hole is thistight par four dog leg left and
it drops in elevation.
You can't even see the landingarea.
You gotta hit over a cliff.
And I just roped this threewood tight trajectory, baby
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little draw, and I was like, oh,we got it.
You know, like just wanted toclick into what I was looking
for all of the first day, intothat first tee shot and it
carried.
It made a lot of good birdies Ithink it was six birdies that
day and posted a number.
So support group and you can'toverthink it Like you need to
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get back on your feet if you'vegot a tough day.
And my dad reminded me like andI think this is just a law of
nature, it might be unique to mygame a little bit, but
historically I always come backstrong after a tough day, like
it's happened many a times, andso he just kind of left me the.
It's like you remember when youshot 80, 68, you know, 10 years
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ago, and I'm like you just kindof like get some self-belief,
cycling and work on a couple ofthe things you saw, if you can,
during that day that need alittle more polish, but it's
just polish.
At this point you know like youdon't have time to make large
adjustments, so stick to thatand go out and give it what you
got.
I think one of the biggest kindof contributors to day one, to
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day two.
Zach (19:57):
This is an interesting parallel because my first ever
pro tournament that I watchedwas East Lake last year and I
was following the group of ColinMoore Cowher and Victor Hovland
, and Hovland that day did nothave a good day, okay.
So once my dad and I stoppedfollowing them and their round
was over, we stayed and watchedall the other groups and when I
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was leaving the tournament itwas interesting cause Hovland
went directly to the drivingrange to work on, like trying to
figure something out, and hewas still there as we were
leaving, and this was hoursafter his round was done.
So it's interesting theparallel to what you just had to
experience after shooting in 84, because the next day Hovland
went out there and shot a really, really good score.
(20:40):
I can't remember it off the topof my head, but he had a really
bounce back day, and so whatyou're doing and I'm just trying
to put myself in your shoes,slash, trying to relate it back
to the amateur that's listening.
I think amateur is a lot of timeand I can speak from experience
.
For me, if I go out and shootin the 90s, I usually freak out
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Like there's something probablywrong with my swing and I, you
know I'm trying to figure outwhat that is For you.
You don't have time, right.
You're going out and you'replaying literally the next day.
And it's interesting becauseyou're on such a different level
.
I'm trying to like paint thepicture for people that don't
compete in tournaments.
You're on such a differentlevel of preparing your swing
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and preparing where you need tobe for 12 weeks, leading up to
this point, that when you're outthere on the range after the
round's done, you already knowthat you can't afford to go back
and dissect your swing.
You're just trying to find thatone swing thought, right.
And so I think it's interestingbecause I've talked to Jordan a
lot about this, about whenyou're practicing.
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You practice, you only focus onyour swing, but then when you
go out and play, it doesn'tmatter if you're competing in a
tournament, you're justcompeting on Sunday with the
boys.
You're competing, right.
You're not thinking about swingthoughts the entire time.
And it's interesting because itsounds like you found that one
swing thought for you that nextday and then you were able to
progress and shoot a betterscore for you, right.
Parker (22:05):
Let me relate to everybody that plays golf.
The panic still sets.
The panic still absolutely sets, like it's not gonna go away.
But that feeling of like, oh my, I'm, it's over.
And what am I doing?
And what could it be Like?
(22:25):
In my shoulders, not twosquares, my alignment screwed up
.
Did I play the ball too far?
Up in my stance Is my wristhinging right in the back swing?
All of that still floods intoyour brain the ability to have
the discipline to say like, no,thank you, like.
Zach (22:42):
Question Was all of this happening during the round or
did it happen to you?
Parker (22:48):
after the round was over and you were trying to find it.
I will say I, at this point inmy golf journey, I know that
tweaking at this point in around whether it works for one
hole is not good for the entireround.
It's never, never, ever willanybody benefit from making a
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tweak, in my opinion andexperience, in the middle of a
round versus just where you haveit, find something to trust and
just do it, just finish whereyou are because you'll have time
.
I'm not saying you can'treflect right.
I'm not saying it's justthere's a time and a place and
the golf course is never theplace.
(23:32):
It's just not like you can tellme on box number one, like hey,
I'm working on this today, andthen by two you're like,
actually I'm going to make apivot and I'm just going to be
like there's no way, there's nolike if you would just would
have stuck with that for 18holes, you still are giving
yourself a chance to buildmomentum and like that change
you make on hole two might haveprevented you from like holding
(23:55):
out for eagle on 18 to shoot thenumber that you were looking
for.
That's change you made on tworemoved that from reality and so
like I just firm believer injust just finish with what you
start with, because it's alreadycomplex enough.
Like we just we make it so muchharder than we need to, and
(24:15):
just a game of variables thatlike there's plenty we don't
have control over.
So like just limit the ones wecan control for 18 holes.
It's not I know it's hard, butlike it's never in your, in your
best interest and yeah.
Zach (24:32):
Jordan, I know you have some thoughts over this, since
you competed in tournaments aswell, so why don't you go ahead?
Jordan (24:37):
I mean, what he's saying is is true and it's so.
I was a panicker on the golfcourse during tournaments, of
like you start out on hole oneexactly what he's talking about
and it's like, oh, this is mythought for today.
And then you get to hole likefour or five and you're like,
Nope, we need to switch that up.
Like the temptation is there.
(24:58):
So so, so much.
And I think you also reach apoint in your golf game where
you get to that level.
That he gets to is after youshoot an 84, there's no way
you're backing it up with an 85or an 86.
Like you're just not, you'regoing to rebound the next day or
something like that.
And I think, as you continue toget better at golf, after you
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hit that just abysmal shot thatyou're like where did that come
from?
The next shot is probably goingto be like rope down the middle
of the fairway, Like there'sjust this internal confidence
that is very much earned, thatyou've hit enough golf balls
that I've never seen that shotgo that far.
That direction.
This next shot is going to bereally good and it's just an
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internal confidence that thatyou build up over time.
He the advantage to what he'sdoing and, like he, I think his
dad actually got me a little bitof film while he was out there
in the tournament.
It's kind of like the biggestadvantage he could ever ask for
going forward, because now weknow what he was doing during
the tournament that he got overto me and now he knows, like
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next tournament, that he goes to.
This is what I'm doing when itcomes to tournament time.
I wasn't doing this pretournament, but I'm doing it in
the middle of the tournament.
To have that advantage overevery other player in the field
is a big, big deal, Cause youknow your error and now you kind
of know what to cling on to.
Parker (26:22):
It's hard right.
Like I had goals, man, like Iwanted my goals were, my goal
was a top 10.
Like, do I feel like evenhaving 12 weeks to prepare was
enough to win the golftournament?
I mean, like I love Tiger Woodsand like I love the, I don't
play a golf tournament unless Ithink I can win it.
But like I'm not I'm not TigerWoods, I mean, like I work full
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time and like this is a, this isa, this is a passion and
something I give a lot of myextracurricular time, but I'm
not a full time golfer.
So the goals that I set up formyself I want to be achievable
and because I'm looking for towhat I think Jordan's point is a
constructive experience,regardless the advantage of
(27:06):
saying, okay, this is what I'mtrying to do and I did miss my
target.
For me, at this point, it's allabout what did we get from it?
As you're trying to get to atthis point, zach, like where are
we?
Where are we moving from herein advancing our game and
learning from it?
And so you know, like you, ifyou're going to do this, if
anybody is listening to this andis, like you, know what I want
(27:29):
to play in golf tournamentsexcellent, but you need to know
that it's going to test you andyou need to think of it as the
intangible growth is just asprecious and rewarding as the
tangible growth.
The times you're going to host atrophy need to be just as
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important as the times thatyou're learning from loss and if
you're not committed to that,good luck.
Good luck because it's you'regoing to get drained.
You're going to get like golfis just.
If you play golf and you're nothumbled to that part of it, I
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just I don't think you're goingto play golf for as long as I
have in my life.
I just it's going to wear youdown and you've got to learn to
look at where the trophies existin the intangible side of your
game and your growth and yourexperiences and how you know
like.
Ricky is a perfect example,right, like just a professional
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example of how much relief didwe all see him have making that
put in the playoff the other day?
Right, like that relief comesfrom all the work that has been
put in to his journey since youknow, 18 plus months ago and his
you know his fall was sort ofhappening and everybody was like
what's going on with RickyFowler?
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And to get to that point?
A guy like that pressures atough US open loss just as much
as the win that he hosted theother day and like good for you,
because that's mental toughness.
In my opinion, in the sport,mental toughness over a shot is
debatable.
Mental toughness for the sport,for me, is being able to take
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the losses and the tough daysand and realize like okay,
there's still treasure for me tofind and dig out of this.
You know, deep, dark, horribleday that it feels like you're
having, so that's my rent.
Zach (29:39):
I enjoy it.
Okay, I'm going to.
I could go two separate waysfrom here and I'm trying to
debate where to go, so we'regoing to kind of tie it back to
somebody who's listening.
No, let's go the other way.
Don't even cut this out, jordan.
This is saying the podcast, asI'm trying to think out loud.
What are you going to do,parker?
Because you're.
You just said earlier thatyou're going to continue
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competing in tournaments.
It's what you need to do.
It's necessary.
What are you going to change inyour preparation?
Great question, from this timeleading up to the tournaments to
the next time.
Parker (30:13):
Yeah, I mean just thank you Like I wanted to.
I wanted to say this, likeanyway.
So you, this is just your skillset on display of being able to
read my mind and already knowwhere I'm trying to go.
For everybody listening, jordanis my technical golf coach.
(30:36):
I think I have multiple coachesin my life for the mental and
the golf analysis, and you know,but on the technical side,
jordan, I only go to one personand it's Jordan.
So I will say that In thisseason leading up to this event,
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I thought I could do more bymyself than I can, and I mean in
managing my own swing, my game,getting it ready for a
tournament, knowing that I'm asprepared as I possibly could be
going into it.
I thought you know what like Ican do this, like I don't need
to bother Jordan with film.
(31:21):
I can take my own film Becauseat this point we've been working
together for years, right?
So I've got all the greatParker swings that have ever
existed and I thought you knowlike I can piece together my
game leading up to it.
And I just got to say, likewhat a stupid thing to do.
Like just what is just completeidiotic decision by my part to
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do it Because, like, as Jordancan say, because it's relevant,
we already got my swing to amuch better place in like 15
minutes of work just between nowand yesterday and today.
So I'll just say, like, ifyou're going to do this, what I
would have done differently isjust keep my full support staff
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included on what's going on.
Like, keep your coach informedwith film and even if I was
making all the right choices,right, at least it was audited
by somebody else besides me thatknows my game.
Like you got to do it.
If you're not doing it, you'resort of it's risk, you're
increasing the risk of notperforming by not keeping you
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know the staff and theprofessionals that are around
you informed.
And that's relatable to collegeplayers, that's relatable to
junior players, that's relatableto anybody that's getting
lessons from anyone and tryingto go out and shoot and compete
at a higher level than justplaying with the boys.
Like, keep your staff and yoursupport group informed with your
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game and what you're working on, I would say at a minimum on a
bi-weekly basis, and it's what Iwould have done differently,
it's what I'm going to dodifferently, it's what I like.
No doubt time, investment andhustle is what it comes down to
and I think that showed in myday two and three, even though
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you know, like my swing wasnowhere near like Jordan's seen
some of the swings Like they'renot, they're not good.
So, like you can beat golf inthe face and still find some
results, are they going to be asconsistent as you need them to
be?
Very unlikely.
So just you know, when you'vegot great coaching and you've
got, you know, some technicalexpertise, just continue to tap
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into it.
Leading up to these kind ofexperiences is my, is my biggest
.
I would do differently and Iwill do differently into this.
Zach (33:51):
Yeah, what I'm pulling from this is you had, you had
the opportunity to get just likethe confirmation that you're on
the right track and you justdidn't take it Right.
So that's kind of the biggestthing is like if you have that
opportunity to get thatimportant voice in your head,
you might as well just take itright.
That's kind of the main thing.
Parker (34:13):
Big time and it's pride.
Like I don't have a problemlike saying this.
I'm sure some people would havea problem admitting it but like
we all think we're these golfexperts and I've been playing
golf people for 15 years of my31 year life, so like we're over
10,000 hours.
We're plenty of rounds deep,you know like still don't have a
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damn hole in one.
But like we're in there and it'seasy for me to assume that like
this, you know.
And it's for people shooting 90to say that I see it all the
time, Like, ah yeah, I got thisnew instruction manual in my bag
and I got this new, this newlittle thing that attaches to my
grip, and like I'm going to beshooting in the 70s at no time.
(34:57):
You know, like you're a fooland and it's you know, like your
knowledge of the game andJordan can attest to this helps
the teaching experience.
You can still bring value andyour own feedback and it's just
only a piece of it.
(35:17):
And if you want to create awhole golf game that can compete
, you can't do it alone.
That's my biggest point, nomatter who you are.
Tiger Woods didn't do it alone,Jack Nicklaus didn't do it alone
.
All of the guys we've ever seenhost the largest trophies in
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professional golf didn't do italone.
So like you're no different,whoever you are, including
myself, and like, yeah, you'resomehow going to coach yourself
into shooting the scores youwant.
It's just foolish and I regretit because and part of it for me
too was it was the work ethicright.
Like you guys know, I set up atraining plan.
(35:59):
I ate a certain way.
I put a certain amount of timein.
It was intentional, over a 12week period, Like I.
I built something I thought wasa good enough machine to get
where I wanted to go, and Ithink it was close.
Well, like to just not put somewhipped cream and a cherry on
top of, like somebody else thatknows my game, informed what a
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what a trip Like what just like.
Jordan (36:28):
We'll go into like a small amount of details.
I mean, when Parker shot the 84, what did he put in our group
chat?
He was like I think I'm readyto be done.
So I did call him and we hadlike a talk, just just to be
like, are you good over there?
So I was like gentle and like Ihad him on the back if he
needed it.
But at the same time I was like, if you're ready to call it,
like been there too.
(36:49):
Of like you can be done, butplease be sure that you're ready
to be done.
But he's like no, I'm good, Ijust just needed a moment.
But then, like, as we're texting, yesterday and he sent me the
film from the tournament, I wasI think I was very much harder
on you through text of like Iwas not nearly as gentle as I
was on that phone call of likewhen I saw the swing, zach, I
(37:13):
was like what the hell is thisLike?
Where, like where did this evencome from?
He's like yeah, I know it'swrong.
Like then you've lost theprivilege to to help yourself
like this.
This should have been.
If you're overlooking thisfundamental you should never be
in charge of your own swing,because this is like
unforgivable that you look pastthis.
Zach (37:36):
It's.
It's cool, parker, because I,I'm in, I'm kind of in the same
boat as you, right, like I amnow required Jordan didn't even
tell me this, but I'm requiredto send my swing every single
time I leave the range to Jordan, right, cause it's like it's
like you always have those smalllittle thoughts and everything.
No man, what what I really wantto get at is like the way that
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you're going about this and theway that you're approaching the
next time that you have to facethis type of adversity, like
you're going to overcome it.
And the reason why I say thatis because I finished listening
to this David Goggins bookcalled Can't Hurt Me.
Oh I read it.
I know you have, I know, and sothe way that he approaches it is
exactly the way that you'rehandling this, right, and the
(38:20):
way that you're analyzing evenyour biggest failures in this
whole situation is what's goingto make you stronger at the end.
And so, if anybody is listeningto this and you're an amateur
golfer, right, and you haveheard Parker's story and you're
really inspired and you'rethinking how can I, as an
amateur, take the necessarysteps to compete in a tournament
(38:42):
, parker, if you could give astep by step process of what
they would need to do, whatwould it?
Parker (38:46):
be yeah, let's pre you the plan I mean you got to be
intentional Like you can't can'tis a hard and a strong word,
but like you can't reach thegoals and a plan up, you know
like, don't think you can justgo from golf with the boys to a
(39:10):
new environment that's going toeat you alive.
That's like sharks in the waterand like you're leaking from a
cut kind of scenario.
Like it's cold out there, man,like nobody's out there to be
your friend, like no, it's not.
Like, hey, bro, like you'll benext time.
Like it's not the boys, likeeverybody is out there for a
(39:32):
very specific reason and theycould care less if you top it on
the first tee box into thewater.
Like that's just.
Like yeah, there's one lessperson I need to worry about.
Let's keep going.
And so you know like you needto be hard on yourself first,
because you're moving into awhat I would call a soft golf
(39:54):
environment to a hard golfenvironment, and what do you?
Zach (39:59):
what do you mean by that exactly?
Are you talking about analyzing, like your game now, or are you
talking about the trainingleading up to getting into
tournaments?
Parker (40:10):
Yeah, I'm getting there.
Yeah, so soft environment is Ican casually go to the driving
range, I can work on my puttingand my on my mat in my room.
Every once in a while I can getout and you know, work some up
and down chipping drills and Ican go play with the boys and
you know, who knows, maybe Ibreak 80.
If that's what you're going totake into the hard, competitive
(40:34):
golf environment, you're goingto shoot in the 90s, I guarantee
it.
Like your results are going tobe so off and you're going to
make numbers that you didn'teven think were possible.
A guy made a 17 in this event,just so we're clear.
He was so mentally gone heforgot he could even take an
unplayable out of the bush.
(40:56):
He just kept smacking it.
So like it's different.
Like, if I haven't, if Ihaven't communicated that
already, it's different.
So your preparation for atournament take a date, know
what the date of this event is,know where you're starting and
come up with a weeklyintentional plan on how and what
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you're going to work on.
That's true.
Like I'd say, an hour and ahalf to two hours a day is what
the average should be close toif you want to play prepared
golf in a tournament and thinkabout, you know, like you guys
both know.
But for a long time I've beenthinking about this plan or this
(41:41):
training plan for getting readyfor a golf tournament and I was
inspired by MMA fighters howthey get ready for an event.
Well, like golf is kind ofsimilar.
Your opponent is just the golfcourse, so you think about the
course.
If you don't have time to getto the range but you're sitting
in your house, you've got timeto look up the layout of the
golf course.
You've got time to look at theyardages that you're probably
(42:02):
going to play.
There's so much golfinformation out there you can
start looking at that.
When you do get to the range,you can start hitting the clubs
that you're actually going to behitting on the goals on this
event.
You know, like yardage out allthe par threes.
You're probably going to be ina zone on most of them.
Maybe it's pitching wedge toeight iron on the first one,
maybe it's seven iron to fiveiron from the second one.
(42:24):
Maybe there's a couple you needto hit a hybrid into them or
more and like get intentionalwith picking a target out on the
driving range and hitting theseshots so that when you get out
to that hole and you've got somepressure and there's people
watching and, like you're tryingto post a number, you've
already done it in numerousamount of times and you can take
it a step further.
You know, like I got a specifictraining plan, like diet and
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exercise plan that's completelytailored to golf and making sure
that I'm ready to play threestraight days without getting
fatigued and I'm you know, likeI'm making a certain amount of
swings and test your game andput it under the conditions that
are fully going to set you upfor success in the environment
you're about to put yourself inand if you just spend some time
(43:08):
considering it like if you'vebeen a part of any competitive
sports in your life, you'regoing to already have some, some
building blocks, I'm sure.
But just, you know, keep, keepit in on the pure golf podcast,
because we're trying to makesure that we keep you informed
on what we're doing and howwe're trying to get there and
what our goals are and maybe wecan share some of the success
(43:28):
that we're having and you canuse some of that.
But you can also just take sometime to consider look, you're
putting yourself in a differentenvironment, and your practice
and your intentional plan, goalsand mission at this need to be
different, need to be furtherand greater than just your
(43:50):
casual golf with the boys.
Zach (43:52):
Yeah, no, that's, that's massive.
And I think there are peopleand I know that because I've
talked to people that areinterested in getting into
tournament golf but they justdon't even know where to start.
And I feel like if yourpreparation just isn't there, or
there's not an uptick inbetween you playing with the
boys compared to you competingat that high of a level, then
you're not going to besuccessful.
(44:13):
Jordan, I got nothing else, man, do you have any other thoughts
?
Jordan (44:16):
Yeah, so real quick any golf if you, if you love golf
for anyone, go play a tournament.
No matter how good or bad youare, they have tournaments for
20 plus handicaps.
So there's literally no excusefor you to not go play a golf
tournament.
Go play a golf tournament andsee if you like it or not.
(44:39):
It's not to say are you good atit, but see if you like it,
Because that I'm with Parkerhere.
That is like the pinnacle ofsports to me.
It is completely in your hands,from actually well before you
tee off to when you tee off towhen you shake the opponent's
hand on on hole 18, you will dosome of the stupidest things,
(45:04):
Just as Parker referencedearlier in the podcast.
He didn't move his ballmarkback under stress and and the
rest that you never thought youwere going to do and you learn a
lot about yourself.
But if you love golf, getinvolved in tournaments.
I would say as quickly as youcan to just go out and go out
(45:24):
and suck, go out and know you'regoing to finish in dead last
and then kind of go from thereof see how much you really love
golf, because competing againstthe guy right next to you and
maybe it's only five guys in thetournament man it is.
It is an awesome, awesomefeeling of knowing, if you
finish dead last or if youfinish first, that you you still
(45:44):
want to get out there and beatthose guys the next time because
you had a bad day or a greatday this time.
Parker and I have talked, and alot of the guys he he plays
within this tournament he'sknown for for years.
So just getting out and likewanting to beat your bros in a
tournament is different fromjust beating your bros on, like,
a Saturday morning round ofgolf of like hey, we paid an
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entry fee, hey, we've done a lotof work for this and it is.
It's just a top notch scenario.
So there, I think there'smultiple ways to get involved in
tournaments.
I know the Grint is an app thathas multiple tournaments.
Every state has their own typeof golf league and everything.
If you have any questions,reach out to us and we'll get
(46:28):
you in touch with some peoplethat that do tournaments.
So I couldn't recommend it more.
And, Zach, we are lookingforward to you one day doing a
tournament, because it's goingto be awesome, dude, we're yeah,
we're going to compete in theWoodland Hills municipal
tournament this this fall.
Zach (46:45):
I think it's in it's in October, november.
So, we're we're going to go forit, but sure To wear a colored
shirt.
Huh Be sure to wear a coloredshirt.
Yeah, I'm going to roll up thesleeves and everything just to
piss them off even more so which, by the way, that's an inside
joke because they got mad at mebecause I've been going to the
driving range without a coloredshirt, because it's Woodland
(47:05):
Hills in Cartersville, so it'snot the most you know high
prestigious place and I've seenpeople play with like shirtless
T shirts, right, or likesleeveless T shirts, excuse me.
And and I've been grinding likefor the last two weeks and then
a few days ago, the assistantpro there was like hey, zach,
I'm going to need you to tidy itup for me.
(47:26):
Like, excuse me, I was likethere's a guy on hole 10 right
there without any sleeves on hisshirt.
Like what are we doing rightnow?
Anyway, that's besides thepoint.
I'm going to go out there andwin the whole thing, so we'll
have some fun with that, but doit.
Parker (47:39):
I got one save round.
I got one save round just towhat Jordan just said, because
it reminded me of, you know,like his point to those rounds
out with the boys.
And then there's tournamentrounds where the boys are also
playing.
Just to the point also thatwe've said, and you can't do
this alone peer competition andencouragement and doing
(48:03):
something together.
We do play an individual sport,there's no question about it.
But, like, in terms of theaccountability loop, if you
don't have somebody who ispicking an event to play with
you in or that's going to alsoplay in the event that you, you
know you want to play in, makesome friends when you do go play
in tournaments.
Because I've got a buddy who,like every time, every single
(48:27):
time we go out and practice, wesend a text.
So like, if you're thinkinglike I don't know I'm working
late and I don't know if I wantto make it out there today, and
then I get a text, I'm like I'mmaking it out there, you know
what I mean.
Like you, just you got to keepthe peer.
You know steel, sharpened steel, and and just don't do it alone
(48:49):
.
Where you don't have to do italone is probably the biggest
lesson for me in golf in 2023,because there's so many people
that have passions for parts ofthe game that can help you get
better and, like you know,jordan is my guardian angel of
golf and he's not wanting tocompete anymore, but he loves,
(49:10):
you know, working and helpingpeople get better as well, and
this whole podcast is is areflection of that and what we
do.
So if pure golf isn't your peergroup already, it should be.
And if you know you havebuddies, encourage them to get
into golf tournaments with youas well, so that you can keep
sharpening each other and andjust get better for the sport.
That's all I got.
Zach (49:30):
The good sign off right there.
I got nothing else either.
Jordan (49:33):
Awesome.
Well, thanks for joining boys.
What is going on everybody?
Welcome to the Pure GolfPodcast.
My name is Jordan.
I will be your host Today.
We are interviewing and by we Imean me and Zach the, the head
of the YouTube channel, zach areinterviewing our actually kind
of another co-host for ourprofessional tournament recaps,
(00:21):
parker.
Parker is a plus two handicap.
He recently has been competingin into more tournament golf
lately, so we had him on todiscuss with Zach, who has never
, ever entered a golf tournament, what is the difference between
tournament golf versus justplaying around with some of your
friends or just you know,walking up to the tee box and
(00:44):
just tee it off and just havinga casual round of golf.
Very entertaining, veryinformative.
If you've never playedtournament golf or if you have
played tournament golf, I thinkthere's a lot to pick up on in
this of just the common mistakestournament golfers make, just
how tournament golf is adifferent beast than than the
(01:06):
normal round of golf.
But it's also just one of themost addicting feelings in the
game of golf is to go playtournament golf and go and
compete against other people inyour region.
So enjoy this podcast.
It is a wonderful one.
I'm going to send it over tomyself for announcements.
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Zach (02:46):
Today we are talking about competing in tournaments,
compared to just playing anormal round by yourself or with
your boys, or just somethingthat's very, very casual.
So, parker, I know we talkedabout this before we started
recording You've been in themiddle of it.
You have been competing intournaments, you have been
getting after it for the last 14days and I know from talking to
(03:10):
you and talking to Jordan, youhad a pretty intense training
regimen leading up to it.
So, first off, before we beginand really dive into it, how did
you place and how well did youdo over the last two weeks?
Parker (03:25):
Yeah, so on Monday the 26th of June through the 28th
was the New Mexico State AmateurChampionship.
It's the pinnacle kind oftournament of the season,
outside of USGA sanctionedevents, I'd say.
For the state of New Mexico itextends to West Texas, so we get
(03:47):
a lot of college players out ofColorado, out of West Texas,
out of New Mexico, all the bestguys in those areas that still
reside close and or in theseareas, and then just all the
regular kind of you know, joeSchmoes like me, that are
anywhere from 25, they're mid20s to their mid 40s play in
(04:11):
this tournament and you've gotto have at least three
handicapped to get into it andthere was a field of roughly 72
guys.
I think we had some withdrawals.
People didn't make it all theway through the two, the three
days, but yeah it that startedlast couple of Mondays ago and I
(04:35):
shot 84 on the first day.
So it was a very humbling firstday.
I played at a golf course that'spretty tough out here.
It's called Black Mesa andpretty much everything off the
rough line is desert and it's alot of undulation, a lot of
slope, a lot of kind of a royalerosion kind of scenarios where
(04:59):
you really, you really probablywon't find the golf ball in most
cases if you're off of thegrass in some way.
So intimidating off the tee,tight greens, huge slopes,
different tiers, which is a tonof fun.
They grew the rough out.
It was a great test.
Yardage wise came in, you know,from the backs, then they, they
(05:19):
, they kind of played with theboxes over the three days.
But yeah, that was the firstone shot 84.
The first day was prettyhumbled, put in a lot of work
leading up to it, as you said,and, honestly, shooting 84, I
was Jordan, I was in the dumpsLike.
I was just like gosh.
That is so far from the startthat I wanted after the work
(05:44):
that I felt like was someticulous and intentional
leading up toward, in comparisonto last summer, leading up to
this tournament, and so it mademe kind of do some soul
searching.
That day I went and tried tojust keep it simple, went out
and shot 72 the next day, soposted even par and it could
have been better.
I had a three under at onepoint in the day and was really
(06:06):
trying to.
I was trying to see the sixtiesand maybe just got a little
ahead of myself and made somebogeys coming in.
I had like a four and a halffooter for birdie on 18 to post
thread numbers and it leapt outSecond day or the third day I
had it gone.
I felt like I was playing justas well, as I was the second day
(06:26):
but unlike my, unlike 12th hole, I went for a pin that I
probably shouldn't have and itwas going to lead to a double.
Like it was just written in thesand like got too aggressive,
needed to take my medicine and Ikind of just have like a mental
(06:46):
breakdown and was like you know, like I'm away from the goal
already If I make double here,when in reality I really had a
lot of golf left, you know, onlythrough 12.
At that point I had a lot ofgolf left and a competitor in my
group asked me to move my coinbecause it was in his way and I
didn't move it back and Ifinished the hole.
So that's a two shot penalty.
(07:07):
So a six turned into an eightreally quickly and which is even
that was probably the mosthumbling moment of the golf
tournament for me, because likeI felt like I had turned my game
around, I learned from the badstart and I was really going to,
you know, polish off two daysand then to kind of get, kind of
get hit with that, which is myown mistake and it's me being in
(07:29):
my feels about to make double,you know, making it worse.
So it was humbling, but postedfour over that day.
So 84, 72, 76, were my roundsfor the three days and that came
in T 23rd, which was still inthe money, which isn't a
horrible thing.
I think it was like a $80 proshop script for that.
(07:50):
Nine under ended up winning overthe three days and it was a
back to back champion.
A college player out of NewMexico State University won it
this year and it was back toback.
He won it last year as well.
His name's Aiden Great player.
Really respect his game andjust his overall outlook.
Yeah, he's talking on.
On the first day he shot 66.
(08:11):
And he said he made about 200feet of putts in the first six
holes.
So that's.
Zach (08:19):
That's insane dude.
Parker (08:20):
Yeah, he started.
He started a solid, great event.
I mean I think we should juststart there, maybe.
Yeah, princes that I saw inthat tournament versus I played
six practice rounds for thatevent beforehand.
So to play six practice roundsand shoot 84 on the first day, I
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think I had reached out toJordan one of my practice rounds
.
I had six birdies and twoEagles on one of my practice
rounds.
So, like you know, I think interms of where I am in my game,
like scoring isn't a problem.
We can score, we can.
We can score on the par fivesbecause my length is above
average and it's really like thenumber, the bogies and the
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doubles that occurred in andsome of the small things that
just like need so much morepolish.
And I don't want to say caution,but Ben Hogan always, you know,
said his mission in his golfswing was to build something
that was improved in competition.
And like you really understandwhen you're in an event and
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they're announcing your name onthe first tee box and there's 40
college kids in the event, andlike you can feel the atmosphere
just thicken in comparison toplaying with your friends that
like you have it or you don'thave it, there's not like,
there's not an in between, likeyou're either going to be scared
and playing out there or you'regoing to be prepared and
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playing out there.
Yeah, you could, just you couldalmost smell it, like in the
people that I played with youknew somebody had it.
I played with a 16 year oldthat shot, that shot even the
same day that I did 16 man andlike local state champion,
fearless, like just fearless.
And then the next morning, likefor some reason, I talked to
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him on the range and I was justlike me, seems, seems a little
iffy shot.
He shot for the third day.
So, like you know, likeconfidence comes from the
preparation, but also like theline between you having it and
not having it is pretty damnfine when you're competing Right
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and you don't have time to letme just figure this out real
quick.
Let me maybe think about someother swing thoughts.
Let me work on my elbow or makesure I'm shallowed out.
There's just no, you're goingto make double on double, on
double.
If you're kind of thinking likethat, you got to just go play
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with what you got and try towork with it, and so it just
really solidified thoughts forme that I need to put myself in
the environment of competitionin my preparation as much as
possible.
And like I love playing withthe boys Don't get me wrong Like
I like getting out there withmy dad, I've got some buddies
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that I like going to play with.
But if you're really seriousabout taking on some of these
tournaments, I mean it's got tobe like 24, 7, 365 in my opinion
.
If you're really serious got itLike, just keep it tuned up to
that kind of environment becauseit's going to test you.
It's going to test every singlepart of your game, not just
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like you know I drive it well,like I'm going to be fine out
here.
It's going to test every singlepiece of it and it put every
single piece of it underpressure multiple times a day,
if not every hole.
Yeah.
So yeah, it was a for everybodyelse's history like I played a
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lot of competitive golf as ajunior, at the junior level, you
know, like 10 plus years, andthen I took a break for 10 years
and this is kind of like myreturn to competition.
So I think it relates toanybody that wants to get into
it, that that's been away fromit and or is in it now.
Like it it's just another beast,but like man, I love it so much
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Like it's just like it's why Iwas, why I play golf.
I got, I love going.
Like I said, I love going outfor a social experience.
But like tournament golf isjust the buzz and the excitement
and the, the, the test of thegame.
I think if you love, if youlove golf enough to try it, you
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you've got to at least putyourself at some point over your
lifetime in it in a competitivetournament at some point during
the year, because it it's just,it's golf.
And we say it's golf to a lotof things, but like it's truly
golf.
Yeah, and it's a blast man Ihad.
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I had a ton of fun, yeah.
Zach (13:07):
No, I, I get that, let me, I've got.
I've got a few questions afteryou kind of just laid it out for
me, because to the peoplelistening I didn't know the
story, like I knew some of thescores that that Parker shot,
but I'm hearing it for the firsttime while you guys are hearing
it as well.
So I'm a firm believer in evenin our downfalls or the times
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that we really struggle, you canalways pick something out of
that and then take it with youas a positive right.
So you said in your first day,after all of these weeks of
preparation, you shot an 84.
Okay, and obviously you're alot better than that.
I'm trying to just link it tothe person that is playing every
single you know weekend golfer,that one round with the boys,
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right.
What was the one thing that youtook out of that 84?
To make that adjustment, to goout and shoot 72 the next day.
Parker (14:03):
That's a good question.
I mean, I will say you need tomake sure you have support in
this game, like whether it'syour dad, you know your coach,
you know your peer group,whatever it is.
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Like I hope, if you're goingafter some competitive golf and
and or you're just playingcasual and you had a bad day and
like you have somebody to reachout to because I put 12
straight weeks of effort intothis tournament.
So after that round I was, Iwas still hungry, but like
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you're so tempted to just belike whatever man, like screw it
, like why am I even playingthis game, right, right, what am
I doing out here, you know?
And I reached out to my dad.
He couldn't watch me that day.
He showed up on day two, whichwas cool.
But I reached out to my dad andI reached out to the peer golf
group and I just kind of likeI'm light about, like I'd, I'd
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prefer to joke about my pain alittle bit.
It helps me kind of just startto process it.
So first thing is reach out tosomebody, like don't keep it
internal.
Is is what I, what I thinkcontributed to the turnaround,
because it's easy to think yousuck at this game, it just is
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and, like you know, people talkabout self-talk and they say
things, like you know, it'simportant that you don't beat
yourself up, and that's true,and I don't think I did.
But more than that I did needto pick me up, like I did need
like all right, like let's getback after it, like you got two
days left, you know, like let's,let's keep going.
And so I called my dad and heshared some great thoughts and
(15:54):
he actually spoke from exampleand was like look, I remember
when I was your age and I playedin the to try to qualify for
the California State Amateur,which is different than New
Mexico.
You actually have to qualifyfor the State Am in California.
There's so many people thatwant to play in it.
And same thing happened.
He said he practiced all summerlong, he took some work off, he
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did everything he could to beready and he shot like 86 the
first day and he's just like Iwas, you know, shredding it in
practice rounds and he goes.
You know, part of it is justgolf, part of it is the game
testing how, how true you are towanting to do this, and I
guarantee you everybody that'sever tried to get good at this
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house stories like this.
The game's going to test andput entry barriers in your way,
whether it's technical entrybarriers, whether it's mental
entry barriers.
It it's going to just say likeyou really want to do this and
and test, like that line oftemptation that I was kind of
saying you want to, you want tothrow the flag in, or like what
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kind of competitor are you truly?
And I think that was part of it.
You know, like I see parts ofmy game and my swing as, as
Jordan knows that, that wereloose.
You know that didn't hold upwith the pressure for sure.
But also you can't dig, youdon't have time to dig into that
.
You just gotta say like I'mbetter than this, I've got what
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I've got right now.
I need to go put it out theretomorrow and like see what I can
do.
And so just having the supportwas big.
You know I texted our groupchat and you guys were there for
me and, like you know, by maybe90 minutes post round I was
like all right, it's all abouttomorrow.
Like I'm done even thinkingabout today at this point and
it's done like the card is in,the scores are posted, all I can
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do is think about my strategyinto tomorrow.
I got my tee time.
I was gonna tee off on the 10thhole instead of the first hole
on day two, so I immediatelyclicked into like all right,
let's walk through the holes afew times.
What am I hitting off of?
10, 11, 12?
You know what did I see outthere today?
Pin position wise.
You know what can I at leastsharpen going into day two?
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And by the time I got close tothe house I stopped at the golf
course I practiced out of, Iworked on some short game, I
worked on some putting, I madezero swing adjustments and just
work on developing one confidentswing thought before I started
the next day and went out.
And you know it was night andday.
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You know I got starting on 10,man, my dad showed up, which was
cool, you know I love when he'sout there and supporting and
watching.
But like 10th hole is thistight par four dog leg left and
it drops in elevation.
You can't even see the landingarea.
You gotta hit over a cliff.
And I just roped this threewood tight trajectory, baby
(18:50):
little draw, and I was like, oh,we got it.
You know, like just wanted toclick into what I was looking
for all of the first day, intothat first tee shot and it
carried.
It made a lot of good birdies Ithink it was six birdies that
day and posted a number.
So support group and you can'toverthink it Like you need to
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get back on your feet if you'vegot a tough day.
And my dad reminded me like andI think this is just a law of
nature, it might be unique to mygame a little bit, but
historically I always come backstrong after a tough day, like
it's happened many a times, andso he just kind of left me the.
It's like you remember when youshot 80, 68, you know, 10 years
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ago, and I'm like you just kindof like get some self-belief,
cycling and work on a couple ofthe things you saw, if you can,
during that day that need alittle more polish, but it's
just polish.
At this point you know like youdon't have time to make large
adjustments, so stick to thatand go out and give it what you
got.
I think one of the biggest kindof contributors to day one, to
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day two.
Zach (19:57):
This is an interesting parallel because my first ever
pro tournament that I watchedwas East Lake last year and I
was following the group of ColinMoore Cowher and Victor Hovland
, and Hovland that day did nothave a good day, okay.
So once my dad and I stoppedfollowing them and their round
was over, we stayed and watchedall the other groups and when I
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was leaving the tournament itwas interesting cause Hovland
went directly to the drivingrange to work on, like trying to
figure something out, and hewas still there as we were
leaving, and this was hoursafter his round was done.
So it's interesting theparallel to what you just had to
experience after shooting in 84, because the next day Hovland
went out there and shot a really, really good score.
(20:40):
I can't remember it off the topof my head, but he had a really
bounce back day, and so whatyou're doing and I'm just trying
to put myself in your shoes,slash, trying to relate it back
to the amateur that's listening.
I think amateur is a lot of timeand I can speak from experience
.
For me, if I go out and shootin the 90s, I usually freak out
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Like there's something probablywrong with my swing and I, you
know I'm trying to figure outwhat that is For you.
You don't have time, right.
You're going out and you'replaying literally the next day.
And it's interesting becauseyou're on such a different level
.
I'm trying to like paint thepicture for people that don't
compete in tournaments.
You're on such a differentlevel of preparing your swing
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and preparing where you need tobe for 12 weeks, leading up to
this point, that when you're outthere on the range after the
round's done, you already knowthat you can't afford to go back
and dissect your swing.
You're just trying to find thatone swing thought, right.
And so I think it's interestingbecause I've talked to Jordan a
lot about this, about whenyou're practicing.
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You practice, you only focus onyour swing, but then when you
go out and play, it doesn'tmatter if you're competing in a
tournament, you're justcompeting on Sunday with the
boys.
You're competing, right.
You're not thinking about swingthoughts the entire time.
And it's interesting because itsounds like you found that one
swing thought for you that nextday and then you were able to
progress and shoot a betterscore for you, right.
Parker (22:05):
Let me relate to everybody that plays golf.
The panic still sets.
The panic still absolutely sets, like it's not gonna go away.
But that feeling of like, oh my, I'm, it's over.
And what am I doing?
And what could it be Like?
(22:25):
In my shoulders, not twosquares, my alignment screwed up
.
Did I play the ball too far?
Up in my stance Is my wristhinging right in the back swing?
All of that still floods intoyour brain the ability to have
the discipline to say like, no,thank you, like.
Zach (22:42):
Question Was all of this happening during the round or
did it happen to you?
Parker (22:48):
after the round was over and you were trying to find it.
I will say I, at this point inmy golf journey, I know that
tweaking at this point in around whether it works for one
hole is not good for the entireround.
It's never, never, ever willanybody benefit from making a
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tweak, in my opinion andexperience, in the middle of a
round versus just where you haveit, find something to trust and
just do it, just finish whereyou are because you'll have time
.
I'm not saying you can'treflect right.
I'm not saying it's justthere's a time and a place and
the golf course is never theplace.
(23:32):
It's just not like you can tellme on box number one, like hey,
I'm working on this today, andthen by two you're like,
actually I'm going to make apivot and I'm just going to be
like there's no way, there's nolike if you would just would
have stuck with that for 18holes, you still are giving
yourself a chance to buildmomentum and like that change
you make on hole two might haveprevented you from like holding
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out for eagle on 18 to shoot thenumber that you were looking
for.
That's change you made on tworemoved that from reality and so
like I just firm believer injust just finish with what you
start with, because it's alreadycomplex enough.
Like we just we make it so muchharder than we need to, and
(24:15):
just a game of variables thatlike there's plenty we don't
have control over.
So like just limit the ones wecan control for 18 holes.
It's not I know it's hard, butlike it's never in your, in your
best interest and yeah.
Zach (24:32):
Jordan, I know you have some thoughts over this, since
you competed in tournaments aswell, so why don't you go ahead?
Jordan (24:37):
I mean, what he's saying is is true and it's so.
I was a panicker on the golfcourse during tournaments, of
like you start out on hole oneexactly what he's talking about
and it's like, oh, this is mythought for today.
And then you get to hole likefour or five and you're like,
Nope, we need to switch that up.
Like the temptation is there.
(24:58):
So so, so much.
And I think you also reach apoint in your golf game where
you get to that level.
That he gets to is after youshoot an 84, there's no way
you're backing it up with an 85or an 86.
Like you're just not, you'regoing to rebound the next day or
something like that.
And I think, as you continue toget better at golf, after you
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hit that just abysmal shot thatyou're like where did that come
from?
The next shot is probably goingto be like rope down the middle
of the fairway, Like there'sjust this internal confidence
that is very much earned, thatyou've hit enough golf balls
that I've never seen that shotgo that far.
That direction.
This next shot is going to bereally good and it's just an
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internal confidence that thatyou build up over time.
He the advantage to what he'sdoing and, like he, I think his
dad actually got me a little bitof film while he was out there
in the tournament.
It's kind of like the biggestadvantage he could ever ask for
going forward, because now weknow what he was doing during
the tournament that he got overto me and now he knows, like
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next tournament, that he goes to.
This is what I'm doing when itcomes to tournament time.
I wasn't doing this pretournament, but I'm doing it in
the middle of the tournament.
To have that advantage overevery other player in the field
is a big, big deal, Cause youknow your error and now you kind
of know what to cling on to.
Parker (26:22):
It's hard right.
Like I had goals, man, like Iwanted my goals were, my goal
was a top 10.
Like, do I feel like evenhaving 12 weeks to prepare was
enough to win the golftournament?
I mean, like I love Tiger Woodsand like I love the, I don't
play a golf tournament unless Ithink I can win it.
But like I'm not I'm not TigerWoods, I mean, like I work full
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time and like this is a, this isa, this is a passion and
something I give a lot of myextracurricular time, but I'm
not a full time golfer.
So the goals that I set up formyself I want to be achievable
and because I'm looking for towhat I think Jordan's point is a
constructive experience,regardless the advantage of
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saying, okay, this is what I'mtrying to do and I did miss my
target.
For me, at this point, it's allabout what did we get from it?
As you're trying to get to atthis point, zach, like where are
we?
Where are we moving from herein advancing our game and
learning from it?
And so you know, like you, ifyou're going to do this, if
anybody is listening to this andis, like you, know what I want
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to play in golf tournamentsexcellent, but you need to know
that it's going to test you andyou need to think of it as the
intangible growth is just asprecious and rewarding as the
tangible growth.
The times you're going to host atrophy need to be just as
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important as the times thatyou're learning from loss and if
you're not committed to that,good luck.
Good luck because it's you'regoing to get drained.
You're going to get like golfis just.
If you play golf and you're nothumbled to that part of it, I
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just I don't think you're goingto play golf for as long as I
have in my life.
I just it's going to wear youdown and you've got to learn to
look at where the trophies existin the intangible side of your
game and your growth and yourexperiences and how you know
like.
Ricky is a perfect example,right, like just a professional
(28:35):
example of how much relief didwe all see him have making that
put in the playoff the other day?
Right, like that relief comesfrom all the work that has been
put in to his journey since youknow, 18 plus months ago and his
you know his fall was sort ofhappening and everybody was like
what's going on with RickyFowler?
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And to get to that point?
A guy like that pressures atough US open loss just as much
as the win that he hosted theother day and like good for you,
because that's mental toughness.
In my opinion, in the sport,mental toughness over a shot is
debatable.
Mental toughness for the sport,for me, is being able to take
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the losses and the tough daysand and realize like okay,
there's still treasure for me tofind and dig out of this.
You know, deep, dark, horribleday that it feels like you're
having, so that's my rent.
Zach (29:39):
I enjoy it.
Okay, I'm going to.
I could go two separate waysfrom here and I'm trying to
debate where to go, so we'regoing to kind of tie it back to
somebody who's listening.
No, let's go the other way.
Don't even cut this out, jordan.
This is saying the podcast, asI'm trying to think out loud.
What are you going to do,parker?
Because you're.
You just said earlier thatyou're going to continue
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competing in tournaments.
It's what you need to do.
It's necessary.
What are you going to change inyour preparation?
Great question, from this timeleading up to the tournaments to
the next time.
Parker (30:13):
Yeah, I mean just thank you Like I wanted to.
I wanted to say this, likeanyway.
So you, this is just your skillset on display of being able to
read my mind and already knowwhere I'm trying to go.
For everybody listening, jordanis my technical golf coach.
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I think I have multiple coachesin my life for the mental and
the golf analysis, and you know,but on the technical side,
jordan, I only go to one personand it's Jordan.
So I will say that In thisseason leading up to this event,
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I thought I could do more bymyself than I can, and I mean in
managing my own swing, my game,getting it ready for a
tournament, knowing that I'm asprepared as I possibly could be
going into it.
I thought you know what like Ican do this, like I don't need
to bother Jordan with film.
(31:21):
I can take my own film Becauseat this point we've been working
together for years, right?
So I've got all the greatParker swings that have ever
existed and I thought you knowlike I can piece together my
game leading up to it.
And I just got to say, likewhat a stupid thing to do.
Like just what is just completeidiotic decision by my part to
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do it Because, like, as Jordancan say, because it's relevant,
we already got my swing to amuch better place in like 15
minutes of work just between nowand yesterday and today.
So I'll just say, like, ifyou're going to do this, what I
would have done differently isjust keep my full support staff
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included on what's going on.
Like, keep your coach informedwith film and even if I was
making all the right choices,right, at least it was audited
by somebody else besides me thatknows my game.
Like you got to do it.
If you're not doing it, you'resort of it's risk, you're
increasing the risk of notperforming by not keeping you
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know the staff and theprofessionals that are around
you informed.
And that's relatable to collegeplayers, that's relatable to
junior players, that's relatableto anybody that's getting
lessons from anyone and tryingto go out and shoot and compete
at a higher level than justplaying with the boys.
Like, keep your staff and yoursupport group informed with your
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game and what you're working on, I would say at a minimum on a
bi-weekly basis, and it's what Iwould have done differently,
it's what I'm going to dodifferently, it's what I like.
No doubt time, investment andhustle is what it comes down to
and I think that showed in myday two and three, even though
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you know, like my swing wasnowhere near like Jordan's seen
some of the swings Like they'renot, they're not good.
So, like you can beat golf inthe face and still find some
results, are they going to be asconsistent as you need them to
be?
Very unlikely.
So just you know, when you'vegot great coaching and you've
got, you know, some technicalexpertise, just continue to tap
(33:39):
into it.
Leading up to these kind ofexperiences is my, is my biggest
.
I would do differently and Iwill do differently into this.
Zach (33:51):
Yeah, what I'm pulling from this is you had, you had
the opportunity to get just likethe confirmation that you're on
the right track and you justdidn't take it Right.
So that's kind of the biggestthing is like if you have that
opportunity to get thatimportant voice in your head,
you might as well just take itright.
That's kind of the main thing.
Parker (34:13):
Big time and it's pride.
Like I don't have a problemlike saying this.
I'm sure some people would havea problem admitting it but like
we all think we're these golfexperts and I've been playing
golf people for 15 years of my31 year life, so like we're over
10,000 hours.
We're plenty of rounds deep,you know like still don't have a
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damn hole in one.
But like we're in there and it'seasy for me to assume that like
this, you know.
And it's for people shooting 90to say that I see it all the
time, Like, ah yeah, I got thisnew instruction manual in my bag
and I got this new, this newlittle thing that attaches to my
grip, and like I'm going to beshooting in the 70s at no time.
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You know, like you're a fooland and it's you know, like your
knowledge of the game andJordan can attest to this helps
the teaching experience.
You can still bring value andyour own feedback and it's just
only a piece of it.
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And if you want to create awhole golf game that can compete
, you can't do it alone.
That's my biggest point, nomatter who you are.
Tiger Woods didn't do it alone,Jack Nicklaus didn't do it alone
.
All of the guys we've ever seenhost the largest trophies in
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professional golf didn't do italone.
So like you're no different,whoever you are, including
myself, and like, yeah, you'resomehow going to coach yourself
into shooting the scores youwant.
It's just foolish and I regretit because and part of it for me
too was it was the work ethicright.
Like you guys know, I set up atraining plan.
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I ate a certain way.
I put a certain amount of timein.
It was intentional, over a 12week period, Like I.
I built something I thought wasa good enough machine to get
where I wanted to go, and Ithink it was close.
Well, like to just not put somewhipped cream and a cherry on
top of, like somebody else thatknows my game, informed what a
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what a trip Like what just like.
Jordan (36:28):
We'll go into like a small amount of details.
I mean, when Parker shot the 84, what did he put in our group
chat?
He was like I think I'm readyto be done.
So I did call him and we hadlike a talk, just just to be
like, are you good over there?
So I was like gentle and like Ihad him on the back if he
needed it.
But at the same time I was like, if you're ready to call it,
like been there too.
(36:49):
Of like you can be done, butplease be sure that you're ready
to be done.
But he's like no, I'm good, Ijust just needed a moment.
But then, like, as we're texting, yesterday and he sent me the
film from the tournament, I wasI think I was very much harder
on you through text of like Iwas not nearly as gentle as I
was on that phone call of likewhen I saw the swing, zach, I
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was like what the hell is thisLike?
Where, like where did this evencome from?
He's like yeah, I know it'swrong.
Like then you've lost theprivilege to to help yourself
like this.
This should have been.
If you're overlooking thisfundamental you should never be
in charge of your own swing,because this is like
unforgivable that you look pastthis.
Zach (37:36):
It's.
It's cool, parker, because I,I'm in, I'm kind of in the same
boat as you, right, like I amnow required Jordan didn't even
tell me this, but I'm requiredto send my swing every single
time I leave the range to Jordan, right, cause it's like it's
like you always have those smalllittle thoughts and everything.
No man, what what I really wantto get at is like the way that
(37:58):
you're going about this and theway that you're approaching the
next time that you have to facethis type of adversity, like
you're going to overcome it.
And the reason why I say thatis because I finished listening
to this David Goggins bookcalled Can't Hurt Me.
Oh I read it.
I know you have, I know, and sothe way that he approaches it is
exactly the way that you'rehandling this, right, and the
(38:20):
way that you're analyzing evenyour biggest failures in this
whole situation is what's goingto make you stronger at the end.
And so, if anybody is listeningto this and you're an amateur
golfer, right, and you haveheard Parker's story and you're
really inspired and you'rethinking how can I, as an
amateur, take the necessarysteps to compete in a tournament
(38:42):
, parker, if you could give astep by step process of what
they would need to do, whatwould it?
Parker (38:46):
be yeah, let's pre you the plan I mean you got to be
intentional Like you can't can'tis a hard and a strong word,
but like you can't reach thegoals and a plan up, you know
like, don't think you can justgo from golf with the boys to a
(39:10):
new environment that's going toeat you alive.
That's like sharks in the waterand like you're leaking from a
cut kind of scenario.
Like it's cold out there, man,like nobody's out there to be
your friend, like no, it's not.
Like, hey, bro, like you'll benext time.
Like it's not the boys, likeeverybody is out there for a
(39:32):
very specific reason and theycould care less if you top it on
the first tee box into thewater.
Like that's just.
Like yeah, there's one lessperson I need to worry about.
Let's keep going.
And so you know like you needto be hard on yourself first,
because you're moving into awhat I would call a soft golf
(39:54):
environment to a hard golfenvironment, and what do you?
Zach (39:59):
what do you mean by that exactly?
Are you talking about analyzing, like your game now, or are you
talking about the trainingleading up to getting into
tournaments?
Parker (40:10):
Yeah, I'm getting there.
Yeah, so soft environment is Ican casually go to the driving
range, I can work on my puttingand my on my mat in my room.
Every once in a while I can getout and you know, work some up
and down chipping drills and Ican go play with the boys and
you know, who knows, maybe Ibreak 80.
If that's what you're going totake into the hard, competitive
(40:34):
golf environment, you're goingto shoot in the 90s, I guarantee
it.
Like your results are going tobe so off and you're going to
make numbers that you didn'teven think were possible.
A guy made a 17 in this event,just so we're clear.
He was so mentally gone heforgot he could even take an
unplayable out of the bush.
(40:56):
He just kept smacking it.
So like it's different.
Like, if I haven't, if Ihaven't communicated that
already, it's different.
So your preparation for atournament take a date, know
what the date of this event is,know where you're starting and
come up with a weeklyintentional plan on how and what
(41:20):
you're going to work on.
That's true.
Like I'd say, an hour and ahalf to two hours a day is what
the average should be close toif you want to play prepared
golf in a tournament and thinkabout, you know, like you guys
both know.
But for a long time I've beenthinking about this plan or this
(41:41):
training plan for getting readyfor a golf tournament and I was
inspired by MMA fighters howthey get ready for an event.
Well, like golf is kind ofsimilar.
Your opponent is just the golfcourse, so you think about the
course.
If you don't have time to getto the range but you're sitting
in your house, you've got timeto look up the layout of the
golf course.
You've got time to look at theyardages that you're probably
(42:02):
going to play.
There's so much golfinformation out there you can
start looking at that.
When you do get to the range,you can start hitting the clubs
that you're actually going to behitting on the goals on this
event.
You know, like yardage out allthe par threes.
You're probably going to be ina zone on most of them.
Maybe it's pitching wedge toeight iron on the first one,
maybe it's seven iron to fiveiron from the second one.
(42:24):
Maybe there's a couple you needto hit a hybrid into them or
more and like get intentionalwith picking a target out on the
driving range and hitting theseshots so that when you get out
to that hole and you've got somepressure and there's people
watching and, like you're tryingto post a number, you've
already done it in numerousamount of times and you can take
it a step further.
You know, like I got a specifictraining plan, like diet and
(42:47):
exercise plan that's completelytailored to golf and making sure
that I'm ready to play threestraight days without getting
fatigued and I'm you know, likeI'm making a certain amount of
swings and test your game andput it under the conditions that
are fully going to set you upfor success in the environment
you're about to put yourself inand if you just spend some time
(43:08):
considering it like if you'vebeen a part of any competitive
sports in your life, you'regoing to already have some, some
building blocks, I'm sure.
But just, you know, keep, keepit in on the pure golf podcast,
because we're trying to makesure that we keep you informed
on what we're doing and howwe're trying to get there and
what our goals are and maybe wecan share some of the success
(43:28):
that we're having and you canuse some of that.
But you can also just take sometime to consider look, you're
putting yourself in a differentenvironment, and your practice
and your intentional plan, goalsand mission at this need to be
different, need to be furtherand greater than just your
(43:50):
casual golf with the boys.
Zach (43:52):
Yeah, no, that's, that's massive.
And I think there are peopleand I know that because I've
talked to people that areinterested in getting into
tournament golf but they justdon't even know where to start.
And I feel like if yourpreparation just isn't there, or
there's not an uptick inbetween you playing with the
boys compared to you competingat that high of a level, then
you're not going to besuccessful.
(44:13):
Jordan, I got nothing else, man, do you have any other thoughts
?
Jordan (44:16):
Yeah, so real quick any golf if you, if you love golf
for anyone, go play a tournament.
No matter how good or bad youare, they have tournaments for
20 plus handicaps.
So there's literally no excusefor you to not go play a golf
tournament.
Go play a golf tournament andsee if you like it or not.
(44:39):
It's not to say are you good atit, but see if you like it,
Because that I'm with Parkerhere.
That is like the pinnacle ofsports to me.
It is completely in your hands,from actually well before you
tee off to when you tee off towhen you shake the opponent's
hand on on hole 18, you will dosome of the stupidest things,
(45:04):
Just as Parker referencedearlier in the podcast.
He didn't move his ballmarkback under stress and and the
rest that you never thought youwere going to do and you learn a
lot about yourself.
But if you love golf, getinvolved in tournaments.
I would say as quickly as youcan to just go out and go out
(45:24):
and suck, go out and know you'regoing to finish in dead last
and then kind of go from thereof see how much you really love
golf, because competing againstthe guy right next to you and
maybe it's only five guys in thetournament man it is.
It is an awesome, awesomefeeling of knowing, if you
finish dead last or if youfinish first, that you you still
(45:44):
want to get out there and beatthose guys the next time because
you had a bad day or a greatday this time.
Parker and I have talked, and alot of the guys he he plays
within this tournament he'sknown for for years.
So just getting out and likewanting to beat your bros in a
tournament is different fromjust beating your bros on, like,
a Saturday morning round ofgolf of like hey, we paid an
(46:06):
entry fee, hey, we've done a lotof work for this and it is.
It's just a top notch scenario.
So there, I think there'smultiple ways to get involved in
tournaments.
I know the Grint is an app thathas multiple tournaments.
Every state has their own typeof golf league and everything.
If you have any questions,reach out to us and we'll get
(46:28):
you in touch with some peoplethat that do tournaments.
So I couldn't recommend it more.
And, Zach, we are lookingforward to you one day doing a
tournament, because it's goingto be awesome, dude, we're yeah,
we're going to compete in theWoodland Hills municipal
tournament this this fall.
Zach (46:45):
I think it's in it's in October, november.
So, we're we're going to go forit, but sure To wear a colored
shirt.
Huh Be sure to wear a coloredshirt.
Yeah, I'm going to roll up thesleeves and everything just to
piss them off even more so which, by the way, that's an inside
joke because they got mad at mebecause I've been going to the
driving range without a coloredshirt, because it's Woodland
(47:05):
Hills in Cartersville, so it'snot the most you know high
prestigious place and I've seenpeople play with like shirtless
T shirts, right, or likesleeveless T shirts, excuse me.
And and I've been grinding likefor the last two weeks and then
a few days ago, the assistantpro there was like hey, zach,
I'm going to need you to tidy itup for me.
(47:26):
Like, excuse me, I was likethere's a guy on hole 10 right
there without any sleeves on hisshirt.
Like what are we doing rightnow?
Anyway, that's besides thepoint.
I'm going to go out there andwin the whole thing, so we'll
have some fun with that, but doit.
Parker (47:39):
I got one save round.
I got one save round just towhat Jordan just said, because
it reminded me of, you know,like his point to those rounds
out with the boys.
And then there's tournamentrounds where the boys are also
playing.
Just to the point also thatwe've said, and you can't do
this alone peer competition andencouragement and doing
(48:03):
something together.
We do play an individual sport,there's no question about it.
But, like, in terms of theaccountability loop, if you
don't have somebody who ispicking an event to play with
you in or that's going to alsoplay in the event that you, you
know you want to play in, makesome friends when you do go play
in tournaments.
Because I've got a buddy who,like every time, every single
(48:27):
time we go out and practice, wesend a text.
So like, if you're thinkinglike I don't know I'm working
late and I don't know if I wantto make it out there today, and
then I get a text, I'm like I'mmaking it out there, you know
what I mean.
Like you, just you got to keepthe peer.
You know steel, sharpened steel, and and just don't do it alone
(48:49):
.
Where you don't have to do italone is probably the biggest
lesson for me in golf in 2023,because there's so many people
that have passions for parts ofthe game that can help you get
better and, like you know,jordan is my guardian angel of
golf and he's not wanting tocompete anymore, but he loves,
(49:10):
you know, working and helpingpeople get better as well, and
this whole podcast is is areflection of that and what we
do.
So if pure golf isn't your peergroup already, it should be.
And if you know you havebuddies, encourage them to get
into golf tournaments with youas well, so that you can keep
sharpening each other and andjust get better for the sport.
That's all I got.
Zach (49:30):
The good sign off right there.
I got nothing else either.
Jordan (49:33):
Awesome.
Well, thanks for joining boys.
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