Wyndham Clark's Ascent | Analyzing US Open Performances

What if Wyndham Clark secures the prestigious Player of the Year title? Join us as we explore the various scenarios that could lead to this fantastic outcome, such as witnessing him triumph in one more major or even claiming a second major title. The raw emotion displayed by Wyndham after his victory at the US Open certainly got us all choked up, and we couldn't help but wonder just how bright the future might be for this rising star. 

We also take a close look at the performances of other golfers at the US Open, such as Tommy Fleetwood, Scottie Scheffler, and Rickie Fowler. From dissecting their putting stats to examining their equipment choices, we try to pinpoint what factors contributed to their success on the course. Furthermore, we engage in a spirited debate on the merits of the US Open course design and whether it rewards bad golf or offers an enjoyable challenge for the players.

As we approach the upcoming Player Awards, we weigh the chances of contenders like Scottie Scheffler, Viktor Hovland, and Jon Rahm for the coveted title. We reflect upon the year in golf as a whole, discussing topics ranging from Rory McIlroy's putting struggles to the drama surrounding the LIV vs. PGA TOUR. So, tune in to the PureGolf Podcast and immerse yourself in an insightful and entertaining conversation on all the latest golf news and developments!

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Jordan (00:01):
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Thanks, Okay, let's get rightinto it, friend.
The US Open just ended.
Give me your 10 words or less.

Aryon (01:08):
Can Wyndham Clark win?
Player of the Year.

Jordan (01:13):
From one major?
Oh no, because he's got theother win too Okay.

Aryon (01:17):
Yeah, it was going to be.
what does Wyndham Clark have todo to win Player of the Year?
but that's too many words, So Ijust had to shrink it down a
little bit.

Jordan (01:27):
No, let's actually go into that.
What do you think he has to doto win Player of the Year after
this?
now?

Aryon (01:33):
So for some reason I thought that John Romney only
had three wins in a major.
Since he has four, it's goingto be tough.
I would think that if WyndhamClark wins one more time, he
should just be in theconversation, just because it's
out of nowhere.
Or if John Rom hadn't won theMasters and he just had four

(01:59):
wins without a major, it couldbe in the discussion right now.
And if he wins and if he wouldhave won one more time, i think
it could have been a lock.

Jordan (02:10):
So what if he won one more time, maybe a designated
event, and then finished topfive in the Tour Championship?
up for contention.

Aryon (02:19):
Yeah, that's what it's going to have to take.
I mean, he has to win at leastonce more, and then he's going
to have to perform or he's goingto have to finish.
Well, at the end of the yearIt's going to take something,
unless, of course, if he winsfour times.
I think if he wins four timesand Rom doesn't win anymore this
year, i feel like they'llprobably give it to him, just

(02:41):
because of how it works withmomentum and everything like
that.
But I just it's going to.
It's tough because, once again,i thought John Rom only had
three.

Jordan (02:53):
What if I'll throw one more out to you.
If he wins the British Open orthe Open, Wyndham Clark, is that
a lock?

Aryon (03:00):
If he wins a second major , it's a lock.

Jordan (03:02):
Okay, okay, okay.
So you and I were textingduring all this.
Neither of us seemed to bereally pulling for Wyndham Clark
and all this.
And if you gave me thatleaderboard of all those names
ahead of time, i don't thinkeither of us were still choosing
Wyndham Clark to win, becausethere were a lot of big names
towards the end there.
What are you thinking?

Aryon (03:25):
Yeah, i think that he changed my if you would ask me
this 15 minutes before the endof the match before I saw how
emotional he got and how the rawemotion when he hit that two
footer to win I would have.
I wouldn't have had much to sayat all.

(03:47):
He pulled out my heartstrings alittle bit at the end there,
but he was like out of the topfive.
I think he was the fourthperson I wanted to like.
He was fourth on the list forwho I wanted to win.

Jordan (04:01):
What was your order?
Did you have Scotty first?

Aryon (04:04):
No, Ricky Fowler first, just because I feel like it
would mean more to him thanScotty Sheffler at this point,
and just everybody loves acomeback story.
Scotty Sheffler second, CamSmith is third, Wyndham is
fourth and Rory would be fifth.

Jordan (04:22):
Okay, and I mean across the board.
It seemed to be a story ofresilience, like any of these
guys kind of had their owncomeback story of Scotty.
It's been a little bit sincehe's won a major and he's kind
of been on this up and downthing of like playing well
towards the end of tournaments.
Ricky hasn't won a major ever.

(04:43):
Rory it's been like when was it?
2014 was his last major.

Aryon (04:48):
Yeah.

Jordan (04:49):
I mean every player.
And then you have Wyndham Clarkwho won, unlike you.
I was like we were clearly notpulling for him in our text
messages.
I even sent you the textwelcome to the back nine,
wyndham, as he was coming downthe stretch and bogey.
It's just interesting to me howa guy I always tell myself,
even if I'm not pulling for them, as soon as I hear the

(05:09):
interview they're probably goingto say something that I like.
And as soon as he hold the putt, the emotion was all over the
face, like it was a clear like Fyou to like himself and
everyone else that said hecouldn't do it And he I don't
think many people there werepulling for him.
Everybody wanted Rory or Scottyor one of the bigger names.

(05:29):
Yeah, I myself phone for them.

Aryon (05:32):
There were open like booze when he hit that bogey on
15.
Oh, really It was very, it wasvery clear, Like when he missed
it.
They were like I mean it waseither boo or boo, but it was.
it was definitely a negativereaction to him, i guess almost
like he's coming for you.
You know meaning Rory typereaction when he missed that

(05:53):
putt.
And of course I mean theaverage golf fan is going to go
nuts if, if Sheffler or Rory orRicky win the tournament.
So that's, that goes withoutsaying.
I think Cam Smith would havedrawn drawn mixed emotions, same
with, like, dustin Johnson,depending on which side of the
live situation you're on.
But there were there were twothings that when him Clark did

(06:15):
that kind of changed myperspective a little bit.
Obviously, the first thing Ijust talked about with the putt.
But the second thing was Ithought he was fried when he hit
that shot.
I think it was on 10 in thebunker And yeah, yeah, he, he,
you know he saved himself andgot a bogey there.
I thought.

(06:35):
I mean I thought he was, ithought he was done then, and
then again with the bogey on 15,i thought he would just crash.
I didn't think he had thesupport or, you know, the mental
stamina to withstand that bogeyand with with somebody like
Rory right behind you.

(06:56):
That's a lot of pressure and hedid it and hats off to him
great win.
Now people are going to starttalking about him differently,
because this is his second winthis year and he's got a major.
I mean, it's a pretty big deal.

Jordan (07:09):
So coming down the stretch he is going.
He's fighting for bogeys,fighting for pars and Rory's.
You know, right there behindhim on the leaderboard, he won
on the biggest stage in what wecall the hardest golf tournament
in the world.
Does that garner any morerespect from you down the
stretch?
It does for me.

Aryon (07:31):
It does, And it makes me wonder, like you know, really
how good is this guy?
I mean, how good is he, Jordan?
correct me if I'm wrong, butdidn't he have some sort of
alcohol issue?

Jordan (07:43):
Oh I don't know about that, i know he was very highly,
very highly touted, coming ontothe PGA tour like very much.
so Are you thinking of ChrisKirk?

Aryon (07:54):
Yes, yeah, that's Chris Kirk had that.

Jordan (07:56):
No, wyndham And to my knowledge didn't have anything
like that.
Okay, but he did have as theycovered on the TV.
He did have the death of hismom with the breast cancer which
I know can knock anyone out.

Aryon (08:07):
Yeah, when she was like in his fifties and they talked
about his mom and his, his momand his dad a lot actually on
the broadcast.
So no, i know he had that.
You're right, i think it wasChris Kirk that had the the
alcohol issue, but no, i mean itis.
It's starting to make me think,like you know, is this, is this
just a run that we see all thetime in this game And then these

(08:30):
people fade off?
Or is he here to stay?
and just, there's a lot ofthings he did today that make me
think he's going to be aroundin this.
We're not.
We're not done seeing his nameon the leaderboard just yet.

Jordan (08:44):
Okay, I mean, he's only what 29 years old.
I think they said that on thebroadcast today.
Should have more winning aheadof him, Sure.

Aryon (08:52):
Yeah, My question is, like I said, was it just a
matter of?
he's always had the skill, Itjust took some time for him to
put it all together with hisconfidence, because what he did
today And and you know, I knowwe're going to talk about this
more, but just how this roundwent today was painful for like
for me In what way, because saymore.

(09:14):
Well, okay, like I said before Ihad, you know, when I looked at
the leaderboard going into thisround, you know, i thought,
okay, surely one of the guysthat I'm pulling for are going
to be able to pull away withthis.
I did not think Wyndham Clarkwas going to go the distance And
I'm going to speak on.
I'm going to talk about Scotty,specifically his putter man,

(09:40):
gosh.
Like the amount of putts I sawgo by that were in like less
than an inch off, and it'sprobably more than any any
tournament I can remember in thein the recent past.
Um, i felt like the greensdestroyed everyone today.
Everyone, um, like they gocoming into this tournament.

(10:04):
Everyone was talking about howdeep the rough was and how that
was going to be such a problemand the fairways being narrow,
but I didn't really see a wholelot of that.
In fact, when some of theplayers were missing fairways,
more often than not I heard oh,he's okay over there, he's not
in any other fairway, or he'sright Other T box or he's.
I mean, that didn't providelike proof to be a problem at
all.
The one time Rory uh plugs it inthe bunker, he gets a free drop

(10:29):
into the rough into the roughyou know, yeah, i mean it, just
it, and it's like it wasn't even, it wasn't bad at all, but the,
the greens totally differentstory.
I mean gosh man, like so manymissed putts, and specifically
from um Scotty, scheffler andRicky, and then, of course, when
they're out of it, you knowScotty will hit a 30 footer like

(10:52):
it's nothing after he missed Idon't know five birdie putts by
matter of an inch.
Yeah, unbelievable It was.
It was tough to watch because,think about it, how many players
shot 70,?
uh, rory shot 70, wyndham Clarkshot 70, which is basically
shooting par to win it.
So if Ricky Fowler would haveshot par, if he went into this

(11:13):
round today thinking all I'vegot to do is shoot par to be in
a playoff, i feel like he's gotto think, oh, that's done,
that's easy, and maybe it wouldhave changed his out.
I don't know.
But the whole, the whole round,to me just something just
seemed off about it.
It was tough to watch.

Jordan (11:29):
I think they see Tommy on the leaderboard shooting a 63
and feel that they have to goout and shoot a low round
instead of playing even par,just chasing like the pack, you
know, playing as if they arebehind, if that makes sense.

Aryon (11:44):
It has to be because I guess I did not think the
winning score was going to beminus 10 going into it.
Especially after watching TommyFleetwood go off.
I didn't think it was.
I didn't think it was going tobe minus 15.
I was.
I thought someone would atleast get to 12 or 13 and stay
there.
But you mentioned TommyFleetwood and what he did today

(12:05):
obviously had a phenomenonaround.
He holds, I think, the most 63sin the U S open, or something
like that.

Jordan (12:12):
Yeah, in the final round , yeah.

Aryon (12:14):
But it also gets you know .
It makes me think.
You I'm sure you saw what hedid last week, you know almost
winning the Canadian open.
Is he the best player thatdoesn't have a win right now?

Jordan (12:29):
He's got to be.
He's in the top two.
I can't even think of who theother one would be off the top
of my back or off the top of myhead.
We won't.
we won't visit it too long, butthe Tommy Fleetwood disaster
that happened last week I I'venever seen a meltdown quite like
that.
Just how bad that was, and italmost made me think today that
Tommy Fleetwood is just betterchasing than having a lead.

(12:51):
when he, when there's nopressure on him, he seems to be
just that type of golfer, whichthat's okay.
Some people win their majorslike that And I think that's a
nice little thing to have in theback of his mind for future
majors is oh yeah, i've carded63 a few times on these final
rounds.
but were you, are you likingTommy Fleetwood and what he did,

(13:14):
did it kind of give you a falseimpression of what's out there
on the course?

Aryon (13:19):
Well, and I don't want to spend too much time on Tommy
Fleetwood, but I do have afeeling that he might be one of
those players that if he gets awin he could fill out three or
four in a matter of a seasonLike it's nothing if he gets
that major chip off his shoulder.
But yeah, he did.
When I saw him go out and scorethe way that he did, it did

(13:41):
make me feel like I didn't thinkthe the course was going to
play as hard as it did.
But once again, i don't feellike it was the course.
I mean, obviously the greensare part of the course, i get it
But I don't feel like it wasthe.
When I think of like the courseplayed really hard, i don't
consider just the greens.
I wouldn't phrase it that way.
If it's just the greens thatare causing a problem, i'd say

(14:02):
the greens are fast or I'd saythe greens are hard.
If I'm saying the course isplaying really hard, i'm saying
there's a lot of balls.
There are a lot of, you know,balls going out of bounds or
going in the water or the roughis really thick or different
things like that.
That's what I say.
That's what I'm thinking when Isay the course plays hard, to
me it's just the greens justkilled the players And I know
they were trying to keep themfast.
Were they at like a 13?

Jordan (14:23):
or something.
Yeah, they're around a 13 fromwhat I saw.
Yeah.

Aryon (14:26):
Yeah, but in the pin placement, like, with the
exception of like one or twoholes, they wanted it to be hard
to score And I think after thefirst day and the low scores
that were put up the first day,they just were not going to.
I mean, they were going to doeverything they could in their
power quickly to make it harderAnd the only thing they really

(14:47):
had in their control were thewas the greens and the pin
placement.

Jordan (14:51):
So let's, let's visit back to Scottie Schaeffler.
That's.
That's one of your guys, yourbig Scottie fan.
Throughout this week I hearScottie's like doing something
different with his putter,cracked his face on the driver,
and so in my shoes I'm thinkingthat's a lot of equipment
changes during and through thiswhole US Open And I'm kind of

(15:13):
thinking myself I don't knowthat he really, not to say he
doesn't have a chance, but Idon't see him pulling off the
win.
That any of that factor intowhat you're thinking.
With all this equipment changegoing on and seeing him on the
driving range after the round,what did you think?

Aryon (15:27):
Well, doesn't he?
didn't he get a new putter forthis?

Jordan (15:30):
He did.
He had a new putter for thisthis week.

Aryon (15:33):
Yeah, it just goes into what I said a couple of weeks
ago where it's like he, i, hemisses more opportunities than
any person other than maybeVictor Hovland that I've seen in
the past several months Andthat man is in it all the time.
It's just.
It's just.
It's why he's the best playerin the world He can have.

(15:54):
I mean, his putting has beenhorrible today.
I think he was like ranked 47thA couple of weeks ago it was.
It was really bad.
We talked about it on thepodcast And yet he still
finished so low, third in amajor, with more birdie misses
by an inch than I've seen.
I mean then it and maybe like weyou know, maybe I said because

(16:15):
I'm pulling for it, i feel likeit's happening to him more than
other players But it was prettybad.
And if you go back and watchthat round again, he had so many
opportunities, so many, so manyputts that came like they
stopped in inch away.
It's not like it rolled by aninch away, it stopped an inch
away And he's still like, evenwith two holes left.

(16:36):
I'm like you know what, if hebirdies this, rory Bogies 18 and
you know Clark just blows up,he still has a chance to go into
a playoff with Rory McClure.
Like I felt that You know, likehe's going to do something
crazy and make this work, butobviously he didn't pull it off
but he's still solo third withall horrible putting performance
.

Jordan (16:56):
And did you see the stat that came up towards the end of
the broadcast on his sand savesfor the week, yeah.
Yeah, don't around the greensthat he's really losing stroke.
He went, i think, three of nine.
He was two of eight when theyshowed the stat and then he
actually got a sand save on thatone.
Yeah, it's interesting becausehe's the number one player in
the world.
You just automatically assumethat he's got a great bunker

(17:17):
game, but he's ranked likearound 150.
Last year in bunker play Itwasn't great and it really
caught me off guard for them toshow that stat and actually talk
about it during the broadcast.
So the ball striking isobviously some of the best in
the history of golf, but aroundthe greens I think you're on to
something of like.
You can only see yourself missso many putts by an inch that it

(17:39):
doesn't begin to just frustrateyou and you need some type of
change.
Hey, for you as a golfer, ifyou see that many putts Come up
close, come up short of the hole, are you changing the equipment
or are you like you know whatI'm getting close to the hole?
What's your approach on that?

Aryon (17:57):
Yeah I.
That's a great question.
First thing I'm doing is I'm,or what I've done in the past,
is I've changed my putting gripfirst, before I just changed the
whole club itself.
Yeah, i, yeah, eventually Iwould change the putter.
I mean, if everything else inmy game was that good and I'm

(18:21):
losing tournaments solely on myputting, which we can, we can
say that in a combination ofthis game around the greens is
why he's losing thesetournaments And, honestly, why
he's probably not blowing thesetournaments out of the water.
I mean, he with with his otherstats.
I think we had talked about ita couple weeks ago where he was
like what was it?
plus 10 from T to green andthen minus nine or Like that.

(18:44):
I can't remember the exact stat.
But yeah, if I had stats likethat, you're right, i probably
would change my putter.
I would do something differentevery.

Jordan (18:51):
Something different.
Yeah, because you can only seeit happen so many times before.
It's just like I need somethingnew in the memory bank, you
know.

Aryon (18:59):
Yeah, i'm shocked.
you said, though, he was 150thlast year because I felt like he
had so many chip ins like saveslast year.
And, once again, because I'mwatching him constantly, because
I'm pulling for him, i'm goingto feel the wins and the losses
much more than somebody who'sjust observing him with every

(19:20):
other golfer.
But I felt like there were somany times where he was in a buy
and he would chip his way outfor par or birdie save or
something like that.

Jordan (19:27):
So I'm shocked and maybe , maybe that stat was from this
year I may have misheard thebroadcasts either this year or
last year.
Obviously, this year he'sstruggling in the sand.
Somebody else that wasstruggling in the sand that
let's talk about him as well.
Rory McElroy really didn't havea good, good bunker performance
this week, and back in the daywhen he was winning majors he
was anytime.
I saw him go in the bunkers.

(19:49):
it's like this guy was gettingup and down like automatically.
He was just insane from thebunkers.
It's kind of something thatlooks like it's gone by the
wayside.
What do you think it for him onthe putting?

Aryon (20:00):
Yeah, well, i think Rory has spent the last several years
working on his just his swingoverall.
You know this was three, fouryears ago.
He was making some majorchanges and whenever you make a
major swing change like that,especially at that point in his
career, other things are goingto fall by the wayside.
So now clearly his swing iswhere it needs to be.

(20:22):
He's in contention all the timeand it's just something he's
going to have to iron out.
He's got the ability to do it.
It's just going to be somethinghe needs to prioritize and
he'll get there.
But for a while he was playingpretty bad golf and he turned
that around and it's justsomething else.
He just has to practice andmake, like I said, make a
priority.

Jordan (20:42):
He hasn't really had these good final rounds of golf.
I actually thought he played apretty good final round of golf
today.
He didn't completely fall outof contention, he was right
there towards the end, shot agreat score given the conditions
, because he just played evenpar golf that we talked about,
but it wasn't an elite round ofgolf.

Aryon (20:58):
Yeah, I actually don't know.
I don't know.
My take on that is a little bitdifferent because there were a
lot of players who shot underpar.
Yeah, let me look.
Yeah, let me looking at thefinal round here.

Jordan (21:10):
I know people that went like negative six and negative
seven.
Yeah, like that.

Aryon (21:16):
Well, fleetwood, obviously he went negative seven
.
And then John Rom went minusfive.
Jordan Smith went minus four.
Austin Ekrow Yeah, i went minusfive.
Okay, i'm Smith minus.
I mean there were a lot ofplayers and not a lot.
There were I don't know what 20players that were shooting
under par.
If you're expecting to win onthe final round, you need to

(21:38):
shoot, you need to be in thattop 20, for your round should be
in the top 20.
I think that's pretty fair tosay.
So I don't know I actually.
That's why I was saying earlierthat I felt the round was
really really painful to watch,because nobody was doing what
they needed to do to really win.
Everyone was just trying tostay safe, Everyone was just and

(21:59):
I don't know if their game planwas that, but the way the score
was, but the way the way thescoring was going on, it was
just avoiding mistakes, avoidingmistakes, and whoever avoided
the most amount of mistakesended up winning.
Nobody went out and took itRight.
That's how I felt.
I felt like William Clark justhad to play defense to get there
because he shot par.

Jordan (22:20):
So let me throw out an interesting little thing to you.
Rory, the last time he won hismajors, he's had three rounds in
the 60s going into the finalround.
If you would have shot a fourthround in the 60s today he's in
a playoff.
I know it's completelyhypothetical, but if it gets to
a playoff between him andWyndham, I'm taking Rory.
in those situations, What areyou saying?

Aryon (22:40):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean 100%, and it's something where I
need to look at.
I mean, i don't know if WyndhamClark has ever been in a
playoff before, you know, beforehe won at the Wells Fargo, but
obviously, if he has been, hedidn't win, and with Rory even
being within a couple of strokesof you, that's intimidating.

(23:01):
Imagine going head to head withhim Like I felt like there
would be no chance.
And I know, and I feel likeWyndham Clark probably knew that
, which is why he got so excitedwhen he hit that putt like a
foot.
Sure, he this pumped before heeven made the final putt.
So yeah, i mean I 100% agreewith you, okay.

Jordan (23:20):
Okay, So you and I were also talking.
I think we've kind of addressedthe players that we want to
address a lot of praise andcritique for this course and in
the environment and all thatgoes into that Before we, before
we're done by that, ricky let's, i suppose.
How can I forget about Ricky,yeah, yeah, tell me Yeah.

Aryon (23:38):
What do you think?
Well, i'm going to ask you thisAre you?
how do you take?
obviously, the round in itselfwas a disappointment, but if you
look at the tournament overall,he's still finished.
Let me see Was he T hold onTotal?
He was Oh wait.

(23:59):
Oh yeah, he's T5.
Okay, t5 in a major.
Obviously he's been playingwell enough to get in the major.
Last year He wasn't even ableto play in the US open.
So what is your overall takeand overall thought on Ricky
with the entire tournament, notjust this round?

Jordan (24:19):
To sum it up, i mean, i guess, briefly, is the swing
changes are paying off.
He put himself in contention.
He didn't pull it off on thefinal day, but he put himself in
contention And I think that'sall you can do in these majors
is, just like Rory, just likeScottie, put yourself in
contention and continue to do so, keep knocking on the door And

(24:40):
I think good things come fromthat and you start building
confidence.
I'm genuinely shocked not toput it back on Wyndham Clerk,
but I'm genuinely shocked.
He had like zero experience inmajors, relatively speaking, and
he pulled this off.
I think that speaks volumesabout that guy.
Ricky's had plenty ofexperience in majors and just

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had a bad round today.

Aryon (25:02):
Yeah, no, i agree.

Jordan (25:04):
What about you?
What do?

Aryon (25:05):
you think, yeah, so I always forget, cause he won the
players.
I always forget that he hasn'twon a major.
And when they said this, i'mlike wait, yeah, he hasn't.
I'm like, oh, wait, no, hehasn't.
So I would say this if we justdidn't watch the tournament and
saw at the end of the week, wow,ricky Fallow was T5 in the US
Open.
Holy cow, that's amazing.
It's amazing His final round.

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And then if you learn that heshot four over on the final
round and was still T5, you'd belike, wow, that's incredible
that he was that good.
But obviously, watching it,you're gonna be disappointed
because if everything were toplay over again and Ricky knew
he just had to shoot basicallyone under after he shot a record

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62 on Thursday, I think hecould have pulled it off.
And I also don't think, becauseI watched every shot of his
that they broadcasted And Iactually don't think he played
as bad as his score suggested.
I don't feel like he was somuch worse than Scottie
Scheffler or so much worse thanRory McClurey.

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I really don't feel that way.

Jordan (26:08):
He had a couple of bad breaks.

Aryon (26:10):
He had a couple of missed putts.
What did he end up putting?
Hold on statistics.
Let me see He was yeah.
So Rory McClurey was 57, 57thputting this round, scottie
Scheffler was 47th and RickyFallow was 52nd And everybody
else, except for Wyndham Clark,who actually didn't do as well.

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Everybody else was in the top10 that were within, like that,
finished T5 or less.
Everybody else was in the top10 for putting, except for those
people, because Cam Smith,tommy Fleetwood and who was it?
Min Woo Lee, all had to playwell to get into the top five,

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whereas Wyndham Clark, roryMcClurey, scottie Scheffler and
Fallow stayed where they were.
Their sports didn't move.

Jordan (27:03):
It's interesting.
Did you know that Wyndham Clarkand Ricky Fallow were playing
the exact same putter?
because they only mentioned iton the broadcast a solid 50
times.
It was annoying how many timesthey were mentioning this.

Aryon (27:17):
Yeah, I think they went to the same school too, but I
could be wrong about that.
Yeah, you could be wrong.

Jordan (27:24):
It was truly getting ridiculous.

Aryon (27:26):
Okay, and that was something else I wanted to ask
That putter head.
Okay, i'm always surprisedbecause when I went and found my
putter, i have a ScottieCameron, like I mentioned in the
what's in the bag, but it's thewhat is that?
Where it's not a, it's not a.
Oh man, it's not a blade, butit's not a.

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Okay, jerome, what is thatcalled?
It's not a blade, it's a blade,putter or mallet or a.
What's the other one, mallet ora?

Jordan (27:59):
Face balance putter.

Aryon (28:01):
No, it's what's the big one.
What's the big one?
There's the small putter,medium and big, but the big one
is called something.

Jordan (28:14):
I honestly, I'm totally blanking with you right now.
We should actually just leavethis in here too.

Aryon (28:20):
This is ridiculous, because I only bought a putter
cover.
A thousand times Putter covershold on.
It's a one in the world.
Okay, it's a mallet.
And then what's the other one?
Blade, it is a blade.
Oh, okay, i thought you lookedat me like, no, it's not a blade

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.
No, yeah, it's a blade.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, i'm sorry, i thought-.

Jordan (28:46):
You said there's a blade putter, what's the other one?
I said mallet.

Aryon (28:49):
Oh, i thought you looked at me like this No, it's not
called a blade, like that's aclub.
I was like, no, it is Okay.
But then there's like a midmallet.
There's a mid mallet.
Okay, yeah, all right.
So let's end it here.
Okay, so All right, jordan,what's funny about this?
What's funny about putters?
So when I found my putter, as Isaid on the what's in the bag, i

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actually got my Scotty Cameronin the like used putter section.
I saw it.
It was in decent shape.
I just had to change the grip.
It was awesome And it was a midmallet putter.
So it's like, you know, it'skind of it's got a little bit of
a lip on the back, but it's notthe same as a blade.
And when I was reading about it,from my understanding, blade

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putters are a little bit easierto control, whereas the mallet
putters what I got from it weremallet putters were more for
beginners, right When I wasreading up on why someone would
use a blade over a mallet.
But there are so manyprofessionals using a mallet
putter And it just kind of mademe realize.

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I feel like when it comes toputting like kind of all you
know, like there's no rhyme orreason for almost anything.
You know people are justthey'll use a ruler if it works
right.
It's just like whatever feelsgood, whatever goes in.
Obviously you have to read thegreens and you have to be good
at that, but I feel like puttingis the most like.

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I don't even know.
It just seems to be no standardfor that.
And I would think that, justlike all professionals use
blades, blade irons, you wouldthink they're all gonna use
blade putters as well, butthat's not near the case.

Jordan (30:34):
No, it's whatever works.
man Like we've heard stories ofJim Furick going in and like
buying a putter like off thehuge rack at one of the
clubhouses for I think, like 80bucks or something like that to
people who are spending likeover $1,000 on a putter and find
success with it.
I truly, at the end of the day,go ahead.

Aryon (30:55):
Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, like Jack Nicholas.
I watched several documentarieson him and I know he was having
like several months withputting issues and somebody
pulled this putter out of theback of their trunk.
He used it.
And then Jack like yeah, it'sone on one, 14 majors with, or
something crazy like that Don'tquote me on the amount, number
of majors, but yeah, it'sunbelievable.
But yeah, I looked at that.

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That was not the putter.
And then you look at the gripsand then you look at the
anchoring and just there's morevariation with putting than I
think anything else in the gameAnd it's just really interesting
because that's the number oneway to score, technically
speaking, Like that's nottechnically.

Jordan (31:33):
Yeah, no, no way to score, yeah.

Aryon (31:36):
It's just to me, that's just.
I guess it's what makes golfgolf, but I think that's super
interesting.

Jordan (31:41):
And for those who don't practice lag putting, i think
just take a look at what WyndhamClark did to win the US Open,
because it came down to a lagputt Cause if he three putts
that, then it's over to thatplayoff with Rory that we were
talking about.
It's just interesting, you knowwhat's funny.

Aryon (32:01):
As much as I said earlier that the Greens killed everyone
, there were not a whole lot ofthree putts, but there were a
lot of missed birdieopportunities.
I think that's what I need tochange my statement to, because
when I was looking for a majorblowup, nobody was doing that.
Unfortunately, especially forthe players that I wanted to

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fall.
Nobody was three putting,nobody was, they were all two
putting.
But because the course actuallydid not play as hard as
everyone said it was going to,players were hitting approach
shots within 10 feet and missingthose putts And that's what was
to me the biggest like issuewith the round and nobody was

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able to score when they neededto.

Jordan (32:45):
That makes sense.
I'll go with you on that onePlenty, yeah, cause it almost
seemed like a lot of times theywere making the like three to
four foot par putt.
I saw Rory miss one on homenumber nine I think.
But yeah, it really was.
It wasn't a ton of three putts,but yeah, great point, great
point.
So any closing words on Rickybefore we move on.

Aryon (33:09):
Just overall, it's good to see that he's continuing to
play well.
He'll get another, you knowhe'll, i think.
I think he'll get a majorbefore he goes on.

Jordan (33:21):
He has to, he has to get a major.

Aryon (33:24):
Well, if you would have asked me a year or two ago I
would have probably said no, ithink the way he's playing now
and as you were saying earlier,you know butch arm and he said
this is not a fluke, this is notan accident.
Ricky's putting in the work AndI'm glad to see that he didn't
like take all his sponsorships,take all his money and just kind
of sail out to the sunset Likeit means more to him than that.

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You know he fired his coach, hebrought on butch.
He's been clearly practicing,he's got a wife and a child and
he's doing what he needs to doto stay competitive and stay.
You know, i can't even imaginethe amount of commercials he's
going to be in now just playingwell again, because I saw him
all the time even when he wasn't.
But no, it's good to see Andyes, i do think he'll get a

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major, i think this week.
Actually I think he can walkaway from this week feeling
pretty happy overall because hisattitude towards the whole week
was great.
He said he wasn't afraid tofail.
He did, by all means, failedtoday, but it's a great learning
lesson And it just it's got to.
Like said, t5 in a major is noeasy feat, especially on this
course.

Jordan (34:28):
You're right.
OK, so now I tried to get usthere before.
Let's go into it now.
Praise and criticism of thegolf course.
as a viewer, did you like thisgolf course or did you not?
Well, what are your thoughts?

Aryon (34:41):
Well, i know we're going to talk about specific holes in
a little bit, but overall, man,that's a.
I don't know, no, probably not,probably not.
I thought there were a coupleof cool holes, but I like golf

(35:02):
courses where your misses aregoing to penalize you and not
your misses around the greennecessarily, even your fairway
misses, and I felt like therewas none.
There was a, there was a littlebit of it on a couple of holes,
but when you're hitting so farright that you're in another
T-Box or another fairway and youactually have a good look on
the green, that's not that.

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I mean, that doesn't reward.
That rewards bad golf, in myopinion, and I don't love that
as a viewer.
So there was nothing about thecourse.
It wasn't like the worst thingI've ever seen, but there's
nothing about the course thatreally stood out to me as like
oh, this was awesome.
I want to see it played hereagain.
Mm, hmm, what about you Would?

Jordan (35:40):
you, what if it were just played for like a normal,
like designated event?
What if it weren't for a major?
You like the course in thosescenarios.
It was fine.

Aryon (35:49):
I mean I don't.
I don't like Tournaments whereI feel like Everything is made
or broken on the greens, Like,like I said it, basically, You
can do whatever you want off thetee or whatever you want on
your approach Within reason.
I'm not saying that that's true.
I get what you're saying Yes.

(36:10):
And you're just rewarded by, by, by your putting I.
I don't love that.
I love I like if you hit a shot.
I mean, you know, was there anywater on the course?
Maybe a little bit.

Jordan (36:24):
Maybe it was a little bit.
Yeah, it's not much.

Aryon (36:26):
Yeah, there was, there wasn't a whole lot.
I mean, there were so manymishits off the tee and on the
second shot that weren't thatproblematic.
So I'm going to say that, yeah,it's fine.
It's fine for a regulartournament, but and it did what

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it needed to do for a majormeaning.
It kept the scores relativelylow after the first round.
But from a viewing experienceand from a just yeah, it wasn't
the best.

Jordan (36:58):
Okay, so okay, let me ask you this If you got the
opportunity to get out there andplay, do you think that you
would like playing it?
If there were no, if there wereno US Open played there, do you
think that you would like it?
Because I, honestly, didn'teven really know about this
course up until this year, whenwe heard that the US Open was

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going there.

Aryon (37:20):
Well, as a player, yes, I like playing forgiving courses.
It makes me feel better aboutmyself.

Jordan (37:24):
Sure fair enough.

Aryon (37:25):
So but I mean, trust me, i'm sure, just like most
professional courses, if a 10 to20 handicap player went out
there they'd shoot 120 easily onthat course.
So I'm not saying it's an easycourse, but sure I mean, i'm
sure it's, i'm sure it's nice.
It's an LA.
I'm sure the weather isbeautiful.
I'm sure it was a greatexperience from from just

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playing it, even though a lot ofplayers weren't happy with the
crowds and a lot of how the USGAkind of how it all played out.
But I'm sure it would be niceto play.
It's in California.
It's like it's it's.
they said the course, the landthat the course is on is worth
$8 billion.
I'm sure it's pretty good.
But just from a viewingexperience, there are so many

(38:10):
better courses that I would, orso many courses I'd rather see
played than that one, okay.

Jordan (38:16):
I loved.

Aryon (38:16):
I loved last year When they played at the the one with
the squirrel.
What was it?

Jordan (38:23):
The country club.

Aryon (38:24):
Country club.
Yeah Yeah, i loved that courseAnd I don't feel the same about
this one.

Jordan (38:31):
Okay, i really got in on the preview podcast that we
have for for this tournament.
I really got into the historyof this one.
I actually I love the historyof this golf course and all that
goes into it.
Just reading through some ofthe criticism of the course And
Tirol Hatton did not like thatUS open courses.
It just feels like they justkeep making them longer and

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longer to make it harder.
And he's like 245 yards into apar four is just stupid, like
that's not, that's not fun golf,because one of one of the holes
was like 550 yard par four.
He isn't a fan of just simplyadding length.
He likes that it's tougherbecause around the US opens they
actually used to mow all thatdown around the greens so that

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if your ball missed the green itwas rolling down.
A huge type of deal.
This one took the oppositeapproach of growing up the
Fescue and everything.
I don't think the playersreally liked the layout.
Obviously the ones that aresaying things are the ones who
didn't really play.
Well, it looks like I know wehave Kepke saying he's one of
golf courses that he doesn'tlike the layout of and

(39:36):
everything.
But typically the players whoare going to come out in the
media and say they don't likethis place are the ones who
aren't playing well, right.

Aryon (39:43):
I'm sure Wyndham Clark loves the golf course.
I'm sure he loves the atmosphere.
Yeah, i mean Justin Thomas andBrooks Kepke are the two golfers
that kind of stood out to methe most, that had negative
comments about either the courseor the atmosphere.
And Brooks made the cut but hedidn't play particularly well

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And you know, justin Thomasdidn't play well at all, so I
didn't put a whole lot of stockinto that And I think they were
more.
So.
They said there were some goodholes not really any great holes
, but they were speaking more toor at least Justin Thomas was
speaking more to the layout ofthe course and how it helped,

(40:27):
like the fans and like how thefans were able to navigate
through the course and theamount of tickets that were sold
.
I guess the majority of themwere from corporate sponsorships
.
There weren't a bunch of fansthat were really like rowdy and
got the you know pulse bump andeverything like that.
So I don't know.
I mean I remember when COVIDwas going on and there were no

(40:50):
fans at the golf courses.
Rory specifically made a lot ofcomments about how that
completely changed theatmosphere and how it plays.
So I'm sure there's a lot tothat.
That wasn't something I reallynoticed as a fan, but I did
think it was interesting becauseyou were talking about the 245
yard par three, right Par four.

Jordan (41:07):
No.
So Tirol Hatton, there's a verylong 550 yard par four.
He's like I can like nuke mytee shot And he's talking about
the fairway into the shot is anuphill 245 yard shot.

Aryon (41:24):
Oh okay, And he's like this is just stupid.

Jordan (41:26):
All we're doing is we're just moving tee boxes back and
making it quote unquote harderfor us.
It's like that's not what.
That's not what a US Open issupposed to be about.

Aryon (41:35):
Correct, but I'm almost saying there's a 240 yard par
three.
that was.

Jordan (41:40):
Oh, there was a 200.
There were two 285 and a 290yard par three And then you had
one that was between 130 and 80yards.
Yeah, and it's just, it's silly.

Aryon (41:51):
Yeah, it is.
I mean that part, the long, thesuper long, par threes, and
then you have a par four.
That's like what, 265 to thepin, the one that we're going to
I know we're going to talkabout it.

Jordan (42:02):
Yeah, it's a whole six, anywhere between three and three
20.
Yeah, it's very drivable Yeah.

Aryon (42:07):
Oh, I thought it was.
If you go direct line, it waseven shorter than that It could
have been.

Jordan (42:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could have been.

Aryon (42:12):
Yeah, so I mean that.
I mean I guess you could sayit's interesting that you have
because it really, you know, itreally makes a golfer have to
kind of get into their bag,literally and figuratively, to
make all these different shotsand to play, you know, play
these different holes.
So I guess you could say thatthat is somewhat interesting.
But yeah, i don't, i don't lovenearly 300 yard par threes in

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any situation to me.
that I don't know, i meanthat's just not my cup of tea.
So I didn't do anything for methere.

Jordan (42:42):
Did you have a favorite hole that you really liked
watching?
Or they all, if they're allkind of blurring together, just
be honest, Like yeah, Well.

Aryon (42:54):
I know we're going to talk about hole six, which is
driver par four, and I would saythat's the one that stuck out
to me the most, and hole two,because it was so difficult for
everybody.
I would probably say those twobecause I like holes were not
necessarily because they'relonger, i just like holes that
players have to work to scorewell on there.
or especially, like I said, ifyou want a little drama towards

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the end of a hole, where it'shard to make a par, it does make
it interesting.
So I liked the fact that thelast three holes were more
challenging.
Well, in general, i mean, i didlike a hole six because, even
though I thought a lot ofplayers did not play it the way
I would have thought made sense.

Jordan (43:33):
In what way?

Aryon (43:34):
Well, i don't see why you lay up on that at all.
I don't.
When you can miss it right Andhave that shot that Rory had
today, i don't see why youwouldn't do that, why you
wouldn't go for it every time,because you're as long as you
don't hit just a terrible shot,you're pretty safe.
I mean, you have a true chanceof like getting a landing on the

(43:56):
green And if you miss rightyou're still pin high in the not
so rough rough.
I don't know.
I mean clear.
I don't take my word on it.
I probably have no idea whatI'm talking about, but they
literally showed the statisticsthat people who missed right or
went straight at it scored itlike a quarter of a point, like

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lower than people who missedleft or people who laid up and
majority of people I saw today,with the exception Rory laid up
on that whole.

Jordan (44:26):
Interesting.
I didn't see that stat and Iwas looking for that stat to see
what the difference was.

Aryon (44:31):
Yeah, it was something like if you miss to the right,
the average score was like 3.4something.
If you go straight on for theflag, it was 3.5.
And then if you lay up to theleft, it was like 3.7 or 3.8 or
some, even maybe a little bithigher than that.
And I, ricky, went left, whichat that point I did not feel

(44:52):
like he was in a position wherehe needed to play safe.
He needed to go out there andscore, and that was another
thing.
Ricky relied very heavily onhis short game.
He did not pull through todaywith that But.
But then Rory missed right.
But Rory had just as good of ashot as Ricky didn't.
He didn't hit the best tee shot.
So I just don't understand whyeverybody in that situation

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wouldn't go for it there,because the stats show that if
you go straight forward or missto the right, you have like a
set of much better chance ofgetting a shoot in the birdie.

Jordan (45:23):
The argument against it was just all the Fescue around
the green And a lot of times ifit landed in that Fescue you
didn't know what the lie wasLike your boy Fitzpatrick and
hit one.
That ended up like in themiddle of Fescue And it was like
propped up and he easily couldhave hit underneath it.
So with all the analytics thatwe have now, it's not as

(45:44):
appealing of a hole as it was.
All the analytics say if youhave drivable par four, you now
go for it at that level.
At that level for you and I maybe like a 250 yard par four,
but I think I'm going for a 250yard par four.

Aryon (46:02):
Yeah, because as long as you don't have like a serious
out of bounds or water orsomething that like is
unrecoverable, you know, if you,if you miss on, you know and
you go long.

Jordan (46:14):
But if you're just like if you're on land, it's like
this is an O-brainer.

Aryon (46:19):
Yeah, or being in a bunker, something like that.
I yeah.
There's very few situationswhere I'm not going for it.
I will say the Wyndham Clarkhit a really good shot because
he went straight for the pin.
He actually ended up in a veryunfavorable situation where he
had to hit a really tough wedgeshot, like almost like a flop
shot up and down to save par,which he did.

Jordan (46:41):
So props to the winner, perhaps the one any.
the other one I was looking attalking about was the hole 15,
which was the really short parthree.
We saw our handful of hole inones on that hole.
Did you like seeing an 80 yardpar three at the US Open on
Saturday?

Aryon (46:58):
No, that's ridiculously short.
Once again, the only good thingabout these like long par three
, short par threes, short parfours, like the kind of the
complete randomness of thelength of these holes, is if, in

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theory, it provides a lot ofscoring opportunities and a lot
of movement on the leaderboard.
You like having that becausethen it's like no lead is safe
or somebody could easily jump up.
And yes, there was some of thattoday, but I don't feel like
those were the holes that peoplewere making the moves.
So, once again, as an overall,it wasn't ideal.

(47:39):
And no, I mean 80 yards likethat's not what you're paying to
see the best in the world do.

Jordan (47:45):
Okay, okay, well, okay, let's kind of gear down here.
Are there any closing thoughts?
What does this do for the restof your golf year?
Does it put Wyndham Clark onthe road ahead to win another
title?
What are you thinking about thegolf world as we move forward
in the year, because in about amonth we've got one more major

(48:07):
championship called the Open.
What are you thinking aboutheading into the next four weeks
?

Aryon (48:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna need one of my guys to close it out here
soon.

Jordan (48:18):
Okay, who are your guys?

Aryon (48:20):
Just so the viewers know, i mean I'd love it if Scotty
Schaeffler can finish and win.
I mean, obviously Scotty's beenplaying great, he's been
winning, he's fine, but likehe's in it so much And I feel
like I'm constantly watching itfall short Victor Houghland did
get it done, thankfully,recently.
But just, i mean it's look thelist of guys who I like and who

(48:45):
I want to win.
I mean there's a long list ofthem.
I'm just saying, when it's thefinal round and I have a guy or
two that I'm pulling for nineout of 10 times, it's like
painful watching them justcompletely fall apart.
I just mean more in general, ithink this year for golf has
been interesting.

(49:07):
I can't believe we're already in, like about to play the open
again.
I mean I feel like that justhappened, like all of that stuff
just happened, but with therebeing quite a few players who
have won twice.
I don't know that John Rom issuper, super safe as the player

(49:30):
of the year, because I'm tellingyou it's weird, like with fans
and momentum, if he doesn't winagain, like, and a player gets
to three and one of them is amajor.
I bet, i'm telling you, i betthere's a conversation And I'll
tell you this too.
if Scotty Scheffler gets tothree wins, i could see people
pulling for him to be player ofthe year again, because he's

(49:52):
already ahead of John Rom andthe money leader for the year.
So he's playing, he's in moretournaments overall, but I think
Scotty would have to win amajor.
I agree.
Or at least the tourchampionship Tour yes, yes, but
I think if, like ScottyScheffler won the open and it

(50:12):
ended for three and they playedout with like similar
performances throughout the restof the year, i could see player
of the year going to Scottyagain.
Hmm.

Jordan (50:22):
It's interesting because I didn't make this comment
before, but as we go to the open, the open is what inspired Zach
to want to be this awesomeputter, because it came down to
Rory versus Cam Smith with aputter in their hand.
Rory didn't putt very well,just again, kind of like today.
He lost a major last year dueto putting.
He's lost another one this yeardue to putting.

(50:43):
I'm really hoping we see Rorywin a major.
I'm a Rory fan.
Obviously.
I would love to see him win theopen.
It's one he's won before.
I don't think it's at the samecourse, but I'm pulling for Rory
as we go ahead.
Are you pulling for Rory or not?

Aryon (51:00):
No, i'm not, and I don't have anything against Rory.
He's just not one of the guysI'm usually ever cheering for,
unless the other person issomebody I really don't like.
Like, if it's Rory and BrooksKepka, i'll pull for Rory.
You know there's a couple otherplayers who I because I'm very
neutral on Rory, like I havenothing against him, like

(51:21):
there's no reason why I dislikehim, but he's never a guy that
I'm like.
Yes, i need him to get this win.
I don't know why it's In himversus Wyndham were you pulling
for Rory over Wyndham today?

Jordan (51:30):
No, no, no, i told you, rory is the fifth guy on my list
.

Aryon (51:34):
Okay, but.
I would pick Rory over Rom andI would pick Rory over Brooks
Kepka.
I hate to bring this up, butI'm going to Hit me with it.
The live versus PGA drama kindof was out the door.

Jordan (51:47):
It was completely, completely completely,
completely, completely out thedoor.

Aryon (51:51):
Yeah, and what I mean by that is, if this merger hadn't
happened, i would have made acomment before, now that Dustin
Johnson and Cam Smith were incontention They're not losing
their form, but now that it'sall, they're merged, it's all
together.
It didn't even really cross mymind.

Jordan (52:10):
It wasn't even Yeah, it wasn't even in the story lines.
Nothing about it was there Andit felt Can I be honest in
saying that it felt weirdBecause it's been the story
lines all year.

Aryon (52:23):
Yeah, but it made me feel like things are finally getting
back to how they should be.
All the best players, i agree,and and it's quite exciting.
But Yeah, i mean it's.
It's something like we're whatan hour almost into this podcast
And we this is the first timelive was even mentioned.
It really is.
Granted, there were, there werelive players in contention And

(52:46):
I mean, did I think DustinJohnson was going to pull it out
?
No, but he had a chance to,especially knowing that the
final score was minus 10.
At the beginning of the round,if I'm like, all right, dustin,
you just got to get to minus 10,like in your in it, or you know
, cam Smith would have been alittle bit of a tougher
challenge, but the guy can do it.
He's a wizard, he's a wizardAnd he's, he's someone like man.

(53:07):
I think I trust him more thananyone with a putter in his hand
, anyone More than anyone.
Oh yeah, even if the statsdon't show it.
It's like he's unfazed aroundthe green, ok, and when I see
him make a bad chip shot or abad putt, it's truly shocking to
me, ok, truly shocking.
So, but yeah, so it's like it'sprobably one of those things we

(53:27):
can put to bed, but I I didthink that it was interesting
that it was not the storyline atall.
And and what's his name?
Um, uh, the guy Brooks Kepkesaid we need a welfare check on
him.
Oh, brando, brando, shambly,yeah, shambly, he like.
He seemed fine.
He was in the broadcast.
He seemed fine He did.

(53:48):
Considering how bad things werejust a couple weeks ago, he
seemed OK.

Jordan (53:53):
He really did, he's, he's doing.
Ok, ah man, i'm, i, i know it's, it's a month away, looking
forward to the final major ofthe year I.
It is always such a tough timefor me because it means golf is
winding down, and I hate that wethen have to wait till the
Masters next year.
It feels like it just takesforever to get back.

Aryon (54:13):
So you don't get excited for the January tournament of
champions.
The tournament of champions.

Jordan (54:20):
I got excited for more this year than I have in past
years because of that likebetter field this year.

Aryon (54:25):
Yeah.

Jordan (54:26):
It's a.
It's not a major.
major, i know, but I feel likeI feel like January things start
to kind of gear up Like I feelyou, yeah, i start like it's
always like Augusta is on thehorizon, you know, and it just
it takes forever to get here,because we're going to be in
July And then we have to waittill April of next year for a

(54:47):
major, and that just Start.

Aryon (54:50):
Oh, this was the third major.

Jordan (54:52):
This is the third major man.
They're doing differently.
Yeah, Yes, See see, that'sright.

Aryon (54:57):
I was thinking what are you talking about?

Jordan (54:59):
We've got three major championship last month.

Aryon (55:01):
Yeah, this is it man?
We're coming to the final majorof the year Holy cow, what?
that's what I'm saying.
No, that's yeah, wow, what arewe?
Yeah, unbelievable.
I literally thought we have,we've got, we've got two more.
I don't know No it's thedifferent schedule to see, it's,
it's the Well we do have, we dohave like Eastlake.

(55:22):
I mean it's not, it's not overafter the open, but I feel you
know.

Jordan (55:27):
But the, the FedEx ramp up is a little bit different
this year because it's it's notas big of a field that gets to
move forward And I reallyenjoyed that.
I really enjoyed the FedExplayoffs.
But this year is just different.
Scheduling is going to changeand golf just keeps moving
forward with the unification ofall that's that's going on now.
So I don't know what it is.

Aryon (55:46):
Scheduling moving forward , yeah, and I don't know where
my head was at, because if wewould have had the conversation
we had at the beginning of thispodcast, when we were talking
about, you know, what doeswinning park have to do and all
that stuff, i for some reason Ithought there was so much more
golf left to be played.

Jordan (56:01):
There's not, there's not , there's not So he's also in
his defense to your, to your Romargument earlier.
He's also peeking at the righttime Because you'd rather close
strong than start too early.
You know what I mean?
I know Rom's got four, but hestarted really early And now
he's kind of like.
So we said this.

Aryon (56:22):
We said this earlier, but I just want your concrete
answers.
So Wyndham Clark doesn't winagain until the tour
championship.
So he's got three wins with thetour championship.
Rum's got four.
Both of them have one major.
Who's winning in that scenario?

Jordan (56:39):
I think from Four wins on the PGA tours, no joke.
And you have a different typeof year because these one
designated events which weighmore in the player of the year,
because we've never had thosebefore.

Aryon (56:55):
Yeah, but the Wyndham Clark wins the tour championship
.
That's not worth, like an eventin a half.
What if there's a deal?
Well, because what if he wins?
What if he wins?
That's interesting because youhave to.
Usually you'll win an event tokind of get a lead in the tour
championship, or you're in theshadow leaderboard and then you

(57:17):
have to play really well to getthere.
But but if either way, it's,it's either way either he wins
one more time to get anadvantage in the tour
championship, or he comes fromsome crazy, come behind, you
know, because he's going to beat a little bit of a
disadvantage because whoever theleader is at the time is going
to have you know what, what?
between two and 10 strokeadvantage And he's going to have

(57:41):
to come back to win there.
So I feel like you've got togive that more than just a
regular win.

Jordan (57:47):
Well, I mean he's going to get some points, that's even
if he makes it this far.
Well, we're, we'reextrapolating quite a bit, but
he's going to have some type ofstrokes going into into that,
assuming that he keeps playingat this level.
There may be a little bit of ahangover here, but he's going to
keep playing.
well, i would assume.

Aryon (58:06):
Yes, but but when you look at it it's he's got three
trophies, rom has four, but hehas a major and the and he
almost has the equivalent of twomajors, almost.
He got the tour championshipand the US Open.
Rom has one major and adesignated event.

Jordan (58:22):
I think he has two designated events Rom does.

Aryon (58:25):
Yeah, but that doesn't really mean anything But it's
the more loaded field.

Jordan (58:28):
That's what I'm saying.
Rom beat a hundred twentyhundred fifty I don't know how
big these field sizes are Andcoming down the stretch,
wyndham's only beating 30players And the tour champion He
has to, but he has to play wellenough to get in there to do it
.

Aryon (58:46):
I don't know.
I think that's up fordiscussion.
I think, if he wins, i think itwouldn't end.
This is crazy because heprobably, he probably is the
tour championship.

Jordan (58:55):
I love the argument.

Aryon (58:56):
The tour championship.
He's going to be in theconversation He will absolutely.

Jordan (59:02):
He's in, he.
the fact that he's in theconversation is a wonderful,
wonderful thing.
I'm just saying four wins overthree, that's all I don't know.

Aryon (59:10):
So you're telling me, if Rom won a major and three normal
events, that it's now adifferent conversation.

Jordan (59:19):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit different Yeah.

Aryon (59:22):
If Rom didn't win a major and he just had four wins right
now and Wyndham Clark has twowins, one of them being a major
it's still going to run with thefour wins No major, four over
two.

Jordan (59:34):
Four over two with a major Yeah, I would still give
it to Ron.

Aryon (59:40):
Yeah, i don't just necessarily disagree with that,
because I even had an argumentabout that before that four wins
in a season is better than amajor when you're looking at a
season, but for a career it'sdifferent.
But I don't know.
I think I think four wins witha major and three wins with a
major and the or the FedEx Cup,i think, is worth.
I think there's going to be alot of people who will not pick

(01:00:04):
Rom as the player of the year.

Jordan (01:00:06):
It also.
it really does depend on howRom closes out the year If Rom
is in five and some and somestuff.
I think it changes thenarrative as well.
I'm going to leave this part inthe podcast.
I just.
I know viewers can't orlisteners can't see what you're
doing right now.
Is everything okay on your end?
What's?
what's going on with the backover there?

Aryon (01:00:24):
I'm good, i'm good, i'm good.

Jordan (01:00:31):
I'm doing full out stretches while talking to me
and getting very passionateabout Wyndham Clark and becoming
player that you just don't wantJohn Rom to win player.
Oh, I do not.

Aryon (01:00:41):
He.
It just killed me when he wonthe Masters and I don't want to
see him win again.
You know somebody bet you knowsomebody bet.
Put this in the podcast to.

Jordan (01:00:52):
Somebody bet $27,000 that Brooks Kepka wouldn't win
for paying like huh Yeah, thathe wouldn't win in the payout,
wasn't it was a foul.

Aryon (01:01:01):
It was like 1700 or 1600 or something like that And I'm
like you know, as bad of a betas that was, it's really not
that bad of a bet, it's prettygood.
That's not that bad of a betbecause it's like man.
I mean, of course it's a major,brooks Kepka can win.
But you're literally sayinganybody else in the field can

(01:01:26):
win, and I win $1,000 and it'snot a hundred fifty five players
over.
Yeah yeah one person, yeah, butit $27,000 is a lot, yeah, but
but for me that I mean like theodds of that, though, like
that's, that's pretty good,that's pretty good.

(01:01:48):
I mean, i don't know, that'sthat's that.
When I saw that bet, i thoughtabout it for a while.
I'm like, why do that?
Because if I make that betenough times, i think I'm ahead.

Jordan (01:02:00):
Yeah, so of course, of course you're ahead.
Yeah, of course.

Aryon (01:02:04):
You know what I'm saying.
So I just I don't think, man,because it depends on who the
players I guess.
I mean I wouldn't make that betagainst Tiger Woods in his
prime, but it's like you know,brooks Kepka, like I don't know.
Thank goodness Zach isn't onthis podcast because he I'm sure
he does something to say, butanyways, Well, i mean back in

(01:02:24):
the day, the bet was Tigerversus the field.

Jordan (01:02:27):
Yeah, but it was so interesting.

Aryon (01:02:29):
And I literally was thinking about this for about 10
minutes today, because this,this whole conversation we're
having right now, is like I knowthis is going to come up, but
it wasn't that it was.
If you bet on Tiger, it wasTiger versus the field, but you
couldn't bet the field againstTiger for the same odds.
No, no, he's gonna give youthat.

(01:02:51):
Like, if you bet Tiger, it'sTiger versus the field.
Yeah, because the casino stillhas to make money.
I mean correct.
Yeah, because because Tiger wonwhat?
20% of the time.
So if it's truly the fieldversus Tiger and you bet the
field every time, with evenmoney, you're going to be,
you'll be rich.
I mean that's sure, sure.

Jordan (01:03:09):
Interesting.
Okay, any any closing commentsthat you want to make.
We know that you don't wantrhyme to win player of the year.
Anything else you want to clearup for the listeners?

Aryon (01:03:24):
No.

Jordan (01:03:28):
Congratulations to Wyndham Clark.
He got it out a heck of aperformance And he really did
catch me off guard with the windman.
But at the end of the day,props must be due and props are
given.

Aryon (01:03:43):
Yes, absolutely.
And did you watch the littleinteraction with his family?

Jordan (01:03:47):
I did not.
I turned off the TV by then.

Aryon (01:03:50):
What about his caddy?
the hug that he gave his caddy?
No, he's the most intenseplayer caddy hug I think I've
ever seen, and that's sayingsomething, because I watched the
Tiger Woods documentary when hehugged his caddy after his dad
passed.
I think, yeah, stevie, yeah,and that was pretty intense.
This one was.
this one was aggressive, forsure.

(01:04:11):
Well, props to Wyndham Yeahsometimes I like just raw
emotion, like that, so good.

Jordan (01:04:19):
All right, well, let's, let's head out.
Thanks for joining me, friend.

Aryon (01:04:23):
Thanks bud Anytime, It's fun Yeah.