October 10, 2025 • 49 mins
It's the Return of the Pod! Carson and Preston are back to discuss what they've been up to in the last few years, recap summer 2025, and what they're looking forward to in the Zollypod relaunch.
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Preston (00:19):
Welcome back to Zollypod.
I'm your host, Preston Moore.
Joined by my co-host CarsonTerrell.
Carson.
We have been gone for a little,a little while.
A lot of pe I think a lot ofpeople thought we were dead, but
we're not.
Carson (00:34):
This is a little bit of when Palpatine returned and the
rise of Skywalker.
This is our moment.
We're Ian McDermott at the endof the, the first trailer, and
everyone is perplexed on how,why.
Preston (00:47):
Somehow.
Carson (00:48):
But we're defying all odds right now.
Preston (00:50):
Zollypod returned, Zollypod returned against all
the odds.
Truly.
Um, yeah, I mean it's kind of, Ijust kind of think that we
should just kind of explain.
In this episode what's beengoing on because it is kind of
difficult to maintain a podcastregularly in 2025 when you have
(01:12):
full-time jobs and you're busyand you have your life.
And Carson, you have had moresignificant life updates than
I've had in the last two yearsor however long it's been since
we've recorded one.
Carson (01:25):
And I cannot believe, first of all, that it's been
like two years.
I think I got an email the otherday'cause I had, I think put
like our subscription on holdfor like,'cause like people
forget when you have a podcast,like you have to like
continually like update it.
Otherwise it'll be like, yourepisodes will go away in 42
days.
And I was like, oh crap.
(01:46):
And like literally as soon asthat, or like before that even
happened, we had.
Started texting back and forth,like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if
we brought this back?
And then lo and behold, here weare.
Yeah, all I can really say islife has been busy in a good
way.
Work has been really busy.
I got married this year.
Preston (02:06):
I was gonna
Carson (02:06):
I traveled
Preston (02:07):
in a good way for you
Carson (02:08):
Yes,
Preston (02:09):
married
Carson (02:09):
a great way.
And I think we're just both likeat that stage of our life, like
mid twenties, just like.
I feel like everyone is havingmajor life events like every
other month.
I don't know if it feels likethat in your life too, where
it's like, oh my gosh, I feel soobligated to like, do all these
different things for otherpeople and like show up and do,
(02:30):
you know, obviously it's, it'sall fun, but like, it, it gets,
it adds up and kind of feelslike life on the road.
Going to weddings every otherweekend is the best way I could
describe it, but yeah.
How about you, Preston?
I know you've been busy too.
What have you been up to?
Preston (02:47):
I,
Carson (02:48):
going on?
Preston (02:48):
am not married.
That has not changed, and I canconfidently say from our last
recording compared to now, I amno closer to getting married
than I was then.
Carson (02:59):
You mean?
Our Soca season one reviewdidn't have people in your dms
Preston (03:05):
yeah.
You know, I, when we releasedthat, I really thought, this is
it.
This is my, this is gonna be, Ishould have put it in my, in my
Tinder or in my hinge orsomething.
Here's a link to my,
Carson (03:16):
The Just delete all bios.
Just host Zollypod that's there.
There's no, it's like no funfacts, just, it's like you get
to the fun facts.
Three fun facts about me.
Host a Zollypod host a Zollypodhost a Zollypod.
Preston (03:29):
Host, producer,
Carson (03:30):
No,
Preston (03:31):
co-creator,
Carson (03:31):
no further questions.
Preston (03:33):
Yeah.
I'm just gonna link all theepisodes and, and that's what,
this is, this, that's what thisis for me.
That's why I wanted to bringthis podcast back.
Pars Carson is just to hopefullyget some women in my dms.
No.
I, I've been pretty busy.
You know, I've been, you know,living back here in Texas and,
keeping busy as best I can.
Doing sports reporting and a lotof other things.
Right now I'm kind of planningsome next steps for the future,
(03:56):
making, hopefully some big lifechanges.
And over the course of the nextyear, we'll see kind of what
that looks like, whenever thatsort of does unfurl.
But with all of that being said.
When it comes to this show, thisis something that, you know,
people asked, and I know thatyou and I kind of talked a
little bit about this, butpeople always ask, when you
announce that you have somethinglike this, and then, you do like
(04:17):
10 episodes and then it justkind of trails off.
People are like, do you have apodcast?
Right?
Don't you have a podcast?
Or like, when are you stilldoing that?
Is that coming out?
And so I've had a lot of peoplewithin my life just ask, Hey, is
this something that.
Do you have a podcast?
And I'm like, well.
I do.
And I, I would like to get backinto it.
And that kind of got me thinkingabout it and I've had a little
(04:39):
bit more time on my hands evenrecently, to go to the theater,
just in general.
So I've got a lot of, there's alot of movies that I've wanted
to talk about in recent months,as well as just some that I
didn't get to talk about on hereover the course of the last
couple years.
And I know that you kind of arein a similar state right now.
Carson (04:58):
For sure.
And I think like ironically, itkind of goes, runs parallel to
like I haven't been able towatch movies as much because
when I do watch movies, it'svery much something like, I feel
like, uh, like right now it'slike.
I wanna put the intention to itand sit down and not feel
(05:18):
distracted.
It's like being in the rightmindset to like just watch a
movie.
It sounds so stupid, but it'salso like the same way I felt
about this, bringing thispodcast back is like, you wanna
do it right and you want to do,put intention behind it.
And sometimes when I like.
I don't know.
You ever have that like weirdthing where it's like you have
all these expectations about anew movie or someone recommends
you a movie and you go and youwatch it, but you're just like,
(05:41):
you're tired, you're not in theright mood, whatever it may be
happening in your outside lifeand you're like, man, like I
can't get through this.
Like, this is good, but I can'tgive it the appreciation that I
want to.
I feel like that's kind of beenmy media diet for the last two
years.
Just with how busy I've been andthen you get to a point where
(06:01):
you're like, man, I don't knowif I could do this and respect
the art as much as I would liketo.
And it sounds so silly.
It's like, okay, most people arelike, I'm just gonna put on
Happy Gilmore too on a Fridaynight and have some laughs,
which I did watch Happy Gilmoretoo, and I had some laughs.
Preston (06:19):
with, with a, with Happy Gilmore too.
No disrespect to anyone whoworked on Happy Gilmore too, but
I would just kind of put that onand be on my phone maybe for a
little bit of it.
I'm not gonna lie, I think itwas made for that.
Carson (06:29):
And I feel
Preston (06:30):
tries that.
Carson (06:32):
Exactly.
And so I feel like every fiberof like attention span, eating
like black box that your phoneis, and like with everything,
it's like it's become harder andharder to like just break that
cycle.
And I just felt like.
I don't know, like if you lookat my letterbox, there's
probably some months where Iwatched like one movie,
Preston (06:52):
I think I
Carson (06:53):
there might be a month on there.
Preston (06:54):
missed it, where I
Carson (06:56):
Yeah.
Like,
Preston (06:56):
I went, I, I was bad.
Our friends have
Carson (06:59):
like I,
Preston (07:00):
relentlessly
Carson (07:01):
oh, we are running memes at this point that like, yeah.
It's like, oh, you didn't watchmovie this week.
You Biden as well be Cars andPreston.
And it's like, it's derogatory.
Dang in the group chat rightnow,
Preston (07:14):
It's tied to our name.
we
Carson (07:17):
so,
Preston (07:19):
and not in
Carson (07:19):
maybe in a way also bringing this back is like, just
to get back into the swing ofthings and, you know, not be the
guy in the group chat that saysthey're gonna go watch a movie
in theaters.
Then three months goes by, like,I know the other week I was.
Messaging the group chat, I'mlike, man, I wish 28 years later
didn't cost$20 to, to watch.
And everyone's just like, you'reso stupid.
(07:41):
Like, you should have gone inJune.
And I'm like, yeah, I probablyshould have.
Preston (07:47):
Yep.
Carson (07:48):
And that's what I got that
Preston (07:49):
And where we're at.
It is, sort of something likethis can kind of, I think it can
you on to watch a little morebecause we have become something
of a meme within, our circlesand to those of them that are
listening now, just know.
You gotta, it's done now.
We're done with that.
We're done with that.
We're back and we're gonna bewatching movies and we are no
(08:10):
longer gonna be the memes.
Now, as far as catching up witha lot of the movies that we
missed, I know that that may bedifficult.
Over the course of the lastcouple of years though, there
has been, a plethora of goodmovies that have come out, good
TV that's come out and, youknow, obviously we've had, some
trials in terms of getting tothe theater and in terms of
(08:30):
watching movies, but I know thatneither of us entirely stopped.
I know that neither of us,missed out on everything.
So with that being said, I wannatalk a little bit about some of
our favorites over the course ofthe last couple of years, and
like we said, there's been a1,000,001 changes, over the
course of the last two years,but Carson, what are some
favorites of yours that you'veseen whether they came out in
(08:51):
the last two years or if youjust watched them in the last
two years, or you've taken aliking to them or something
along those lines?
Carson (08:58):
So now I'm trying to tabulate when our last episode
was.
Preston (09:02):
This is ballpark.
Carson (09:04):
Was,
Preston (09:04):
was a while.
Carson (09:05):
okay.
Was it in, was it in 2024 thatwe last recorded?
It had to have been, right?
Preston (09:11):
I would
Carson (09:11):
No,
Preston (09:13):
but
Carson (09:13):
I feel like it's like January, 2024.
So I'm just gonna go withJanuary, 2024 is a rough
ballpark and I'm trying to like.
I tabulate from there.
Some favorite movies.
It's crazy like Dune part twohas already come out and Dune
part three is already filming.
(09:33):
And that's crazy to say that thelast time, one of our episodes
we had interviewed, someonewho'd worked on the first Dune
and it was like, that was reallyfun.
That was one of my favoriteepisodes, that we did.
Just seeing that barrel Forwardas a franchise and be successful
was like really cool.
Preston (09:49):
That
Carson (09:49):
Um, second movie is just as good.
Preston (09:52):
that I've
Carson (09:53):
Yeah.
Um, that's awesome.
Preston (09:54):
that movie so many times.
Carson (09:56):
Yeah.
I just got the 4K Blu-rayactually, and I'm totally due
for a rewatch'cause I saw ittwice in theaters and I don't
think I've actually watched itsince it came out in theaters
and I'm really excited torewatch.
But yeah.
What a movie like.
Just gorgeous.
Again, you know, from atechnical perspective, like just
makes every modern blockbusterlook silly.
(10:19):
Other than avatar way of water,
Preston (10:22):
Yeah, which we will get to Avatar in this episode.
I will, I will make sure I'llshoehorn it in if I have to.
Carson (10:28):
we are actually paid by Disney to shill,
Preston (10:33):
Yeah.
Carson (10:33):
avatar, fire, and Ash.
That is why conveniently.
Preston (10:36):
back, uh, because Avatar Fire and Ashe is coming
out in a couple months
Carson (10:39):
Yeah, this is like a three month promotional cycle.
So we probably will just,
Preston (10:44):
and said, Hey, you guys need to get back on the air.
Carson (10:48):
it's gonna be like, instead of like soups, like
shaking hands with a Tom Cruiseon the set of Mission
Impossible, it's gonna be uslike thumbs up with, James
Cameron in New Zealand, like ona giant set and it'll all be
worth it.
You'll be so influenced by us.
Preston (11:06):
you'll be so influenced incredibly in, you're not gonna
believe how
Carson (11:10):
Because the,
Preston (11:10):
be.
Carson (11:11):
The$2.7 billion movies need our influence, that's for
sure.
Preston (11:16):
do.
Carson (11:17):
Dune part two.
Really, really good.
Loved it.
Definitely one of my favoriteblockbusters of not only the
last two years, but five, 10years way back from what I can
remember.
Also a lot of cool smallermovies have come out, I know
recently, I saw weapons thissummer and that was awesome.
And that's also like a$30million movie that was like kind
(11:40):
of just punched above itsweight.
And I was like, oh crap.
How did they pull some of thisoff
Preston (11:45):
Yeah.
Carson (11:46):
at that budget range?
And it kind of was like one ofthose movies that like, I'm sure
you've had like inklings of thisover the last two years.
You're like, man, filmmaking iscool.
I want to go.
Abandon everything and go on adesert island and just watch
movies all the time.
I think that was one of thosemovies for me.
Preston (12:02):
and try to, you know, I'm moving to Hollywood, I'm
going, I'm going, I'm
Carson (12:06):
Yeah.
Yes.
Like the whole, throw everythingin the back of your car.
I'm leaving.
I'm going to la.
Oh.
Does sound like a dream.
what else we've had, like howmany?
We've had like two full Oscarseasons probably since, since
(12:26):
everything went down with theend of our last episode.
Um, what are.
Preston (12:33):
in, in January 20, 24, I watched a lot.
I, I, I actually ended upwatching a good amount of movies
and one of them.
I know people had tried to getme to watch for a very long
time.
Was La La Land and that moviejust sticks with you.
And I know a lot of peopleobviously have seen that, I'm
(12:56):
sure.
But you know, whenever you watchthat movie, I mean, that, that
stuck with me.
It stick with stuck with me forthe next year and a half.
You know, LA La Land is such a.
It's such a fantastic moviemusical.
It's, it's just everything that,that I think a movie musical
should be.
And I was actually in the carjust yesterday with my little
brother and he like.
(13:16):
So my little brother, he loves,he's, he's very much into music
in the last couple of years,like extremely into music.
But he loves like, and he's notgonna listen to this.
So I can say this, John listensto, and I love him to death.
He's my favorite person in theworld.
John listens to shittiest popsongs you've ever heard, uh,
(13:41):
regularly, not
Carson (13:43):
So he's a real diet Pepsi, Addison Ray kind of guy.
Preston (13:46):
Well, you, I al I wish it was more of, more along
those.
You don't even know music canget to this level, until you
hear it all the time.
But not even that he listens tothe kids bot versions of those.
Carson (14:00):
Oh fantastic.
Preston (14:02):
songs out there and then they just like up the
octaves maybe like seven timesto where it's nasally and just
like high pitched and it's like,ooh, it's uh, I love him to
death.
Anyways, we were in the car andum, don't have kids, Bob on my
phone and he knows this, sothat's a non-negotiable, that's
a non-starter for me.
But we were in the car.
(14:22):
he was just, he loves to justskip through songs.
He doesn't even let them play.
Like he'll shuffle my entirelibrary, or he'll go through a
go find a playlist of mine andhe'll hit shuffle and he'll just
skip through every single one.
Even if they're ones, he knows,if he likes, like he won't let
it play for five seconds andI'll just be like, oh, that's a
good one.
And it's gone before it starts.
It's just who he is.
But just yesterday, another dayof Sun from La La Land came on.
(14:47):
And I like, I like, you know,when your mom like reaches
across the, the, the thing andlike when you're hitting the
brake and just like, stop as ifyou're gonna fly out of the, out
of the windshield.
I did that even though we werenot in a dangerous, precarious
situation.
I reached over, I was like, no.
We are not skipping this, we'renot skipping another day of sun.
You are gonna listen to thissong and you are gonna like it.
(15:09):
And he did.
Um, and so I think things likethat, you know, John's hard to
impress in terms of, reallyanything at all.
And he'll tell you when he's notimpressed in terms of anything
at all.
And he was impressed by anotherday of Sun from La la Land.
So that movie sticks with you,and even.
The details of it, even ifyou're not seeing the amazing
(15:30):
choreography and that number andall of the incredible
cinematography and the colorsand everything, even just
listening to the music, youknow, something like that can
still be affecting.
For someone like John wholistens to.
most BB Rexha, Tate, McCree,
Carson (15:46):
Oh, not David Gray.
Preston (15:48):
and I that you could ever even come up with.
Another day of sun is now addedto the, added to the, the
library for John.
Hopefully they don't make a kidsBob version
Carson (15:59):
I hope they don't, but it does just confirm that that
movie has zero skips and youknow, it may get, that movie may
give me eternal depression, butsoundtrack good.
Preston (16:12):
Yeah.
Sound check analysis.
Carson (16:18):
That's, that's what we're here for.
What else has been, I'm tryingto look at my diary of things,
of movies that have both comeout and old movies that I've
watched or watched for the firsttime.
Um.
Preston (16:36):
Last year, one that came out, that, I mean, there
were a couple that came out thatI saw, but um.
The heavy hitters I think oflast, last summer, at least in
terms of office and what hadeverybody showing up was two
that I saw that I think ofparticularly, were inside Out
Two and Deadpool and Wolverine,and those are big like franchise
(16:59):
movies, you know, they're bigsequels and, all that.
But, I think that those, it'sinteresting to look back on both
of those, actually, about a yearlater
Carson (17:07):
Yeah, totally.
Preston (17:08):
because.
I liked inside out too.
I didn't think I was as good asthe first one, but I enjoyed it.
And then Deadpool and Wolverine,I saw it the first time and I
laughed a good bit, but
Carson (17:20):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (17:21):
I can't say I thought about it again ever.
Especially now, I'm like thatthey made a Hugh Jackman
Wolverine movie less than ayear, about a year ago.
Can you Even my, my automaticreaction to that statement is
no, they didn't.
Carson (17:38):
You know what I saw today, actually, this is
hilarious.
It was a clip of someone.
Analyzing the lyrics of, the BoBurnham songs.
'cause he, I guess he mentionsDeadpool in one of the songs in
the, the inside movie.
Um, and then someone pulled apodcast clip.
Preston (17:54):
for the
Carson (17:54):
Nope, nope.
Preston (17:55):
on the mic
Carson (17:55):
For the record.
For the record.
I have not seen
Preston (17:59):
I'll stop.
Carson (17:59):
here we go.
So
Preston (18:01):
silence after that.
Carson (18:02):
he hates Deadpool and he was talking about how Deadpool
is like.
You know, people are like, oh,Deadpool's one of us.
He's ironic and just like, hekind of is just like, screw this
and, you know, breaking thefourth wall and it's supposed to
be like this, like relatable,like, funny guy.
(18:22):
And he was contrasting that withlike, okay, really Deadpool is
like the$200 million.
Disney backed.
Merger.
The only reason they haveDeadpool is'cause they did this
merger and like all this stuffand like that really it's, it's
just a corporation selling backthe idea of irony and like
(18:43):
funniness to you.
And like when I think back onthat movie, I was like, it's
kind of what I think of now.
Just like I had fun in themoment, but at what cost to
like, is this what movies andfun and like.
It just felt like it was createdin a lab.
The more I think about it tolike reverse manufacture what
(19:07):
intellectual property could be.
Preston (19:09):
Yeah.
Carson (19:10):
And then I think about like, again, jumping the gun
here, but like the earnesty andsincerity of something like
Superman being like the completeantithesis to like that approach
that Deadpool and Wolverine did.
And I was like, man, I soprefer.
The Superman approach a thousandtimes over, and I'm glad that
(19:33):
movie was successful because nowit wasn't as nearly as
successful as Deadpool andWolverine.
And so who knows what havoc thatwill ultimately see what the
lessons, um, from,
Preston (19:46):
though,
Carson (19:46):
from Marvel
Preston (19:47):
a year, because what we're like roughly a year and
maybe what, two months sinceDeadpool and Wolverine Right
Carson (19:55):
Past it.
Preston (19:55):
and a year and a month
Carson (19:58):
Yeah, you still don't even know when he is gonna show
up again.
Preston (20:00):
post Superman, which would be about a year from now,
I would say After a year and twomonths of Superman, more people
will remember Superman thancurrently.
Remember Deadpool and Wolverine.
Carson (20:17):
I hope so.
Preston (20:18):
I have to believe that because Superman, like it just
Deadpool and Wolverine.
I look back on it and I'm, well,I don't look back on it.
That's the thing is I just
Carson (20:27):
Yeah, very true.
Preston (20:28):
not come to my mind as something that happened.
I cannot believe that they, andnot only did they.
Get Hugh Jackman to come back asWolverine, they got him to come
back as Wolverine number one.
That's insane.
People wanted that for so long,and didn't think it would've
happened.
And this iconic casting, andthen they give him the suit, the
Wolverine suit, the comicWolverine suit that again,
(20:51):
people have wanted for a verylong time that Fox never did in
of any of their X-Men movies.
That's a huge deal After over 20years of, of, of.
Hugh Jackman is Wolverine.
You're giving him the suit, andthen they're pairing him with
Deadpool, an incrediblysuccessful character, both,
critically and financially inhis first two films.
And again, a pairing that peoplereally wanted to happen for a
(21:15):
long time and kind of justresigned to the fact that it
probably wouldn't, but peoplecertainly wanted for so long.
They do all of that.
And then it's just so cookiecutter, there's nothing.
To remember about it.
It has no balls.
Superman has a lot of balls.
Superman takes risks.
It goes out there, it hassomething to say, you know, and
(21:35):
it's, it does feel very freshand it feels, very unique.
And I think one thing aboutSuperman, even, you know, beyond
the.
The fact that it didn't make awhole, well, it, it was
successful, but that it wasn'tas successful as maybe some of
the more hardcore fans of itwanted to be like you and I, I
think did much more for the DCbrand going forward.
(22:03):
they needed a movie like thisthat was, know, relatively
successful.
Which it was, it wasn't like thebiggest hit.
but it was relatively successfulenough people saw it the general
audience perception of DC islike dark, gloomy, you know,
serious compared to Marvel.
Happy, lighthearted, fun.
(22:25):
That's just kind of in a nut ina nutshell what, what it is.
And think Superman probably dida good bit to reverse a lot of
that, because of how optimisticit was, because of how bright it
was, because of how fun it wasand because how truly different
it feels.
And I'm a fan of a lot of ZachSnyder's films and I'm certainly
(22:46):
a fan of Christopher Nolan's,the Dark Knight Films, and the
Batman from Matt Reeves.
It is very different, from allof those movies tonally, and I
think that did a lot for, for,for DC as a brand going forward.
So I do think that a lot ofpeople will remember Superman or
at least share it with people oryou know, it seems like they're
kind of building around it withSupergirl and Man of Tomorrow
(23:09):
was recently announced as, asthe direct sequel to it, and I
think he's probably gonna makean appearance and.
Peacemaker season two.
That has not happened, butthey've, I feel like it's gonna
happen, but I don't know.
I think it's gonna have a littlemore sticking power because of a
lot of those reasons that youmentioned is it's very unique in
its approach.
It's very different.
It's not just trying to, youknow, it, it's not, it's
(23:34):
certainly not forgettable in theway that a lot of others have
been.
Carson (23:38):
Yeah.
And that's something else that'shappened really of like, um.
Just to show you how much canchange in two years as we've
went from Marvel being on top ofthe world, they were already
kind of tapering off, two yearsago.
But now,
Preston (23:52):
not to
Carson (23:52):
um, it's, it's crazy to think that there is an Avengers
movie coming out tentatively theend of next year, and I feel
zero emotions towards anymomentum.
Towards anything happening inthat movie.
Preston (24:12):
I feel dread.
Carson (24:14):
And it's, I feel terrified for what the script
could even be.
Preston (24:18):
think
Carson (24:18):
What they are.
Preston (24:19):
think it's
Carson (24:19):
I don't think they know.
And so, you know, it goes offthis whole thing of like, I
think they're just throwingspaghetti at a wall.
And I think the audiences arestarting to reject that a little
bit.
Now granted, Marvel's made somegood movies.
Since, uh, this has happened,but
Preston (24:40):
Four.
Did you
Carson (24:41):
I liked Fantastic Four and
Preston (24:44):
Superman better, but I certainly had a lot of fun with
Fantastic Four.
Thought it was the, maybe the
Carson (24:49):
Me too.
Preston (24:49):
four movie.
Carson (24:51):
You know what I like more than that though, is I
really like Thunderbolts, andit's a ding.
It's a shame that that movieisn't hyped up enough because
audiences have basically.
Rejected stuff in and aroundthat.
So when there's an originalproperty, it's not theatrical
enough that people want to showup and invest in new story.
(25:12):
'cause there's still the stigmaof like, oh my gosh, we're on
like the 32nd Marvel movie.
I need to know all this stuff.
And it's just we, I don't know.
So
Preston (25:23):
I
Carson (25:23):
it's honestly like.
Preston (25:24):
a really interesting episode not to cut in, but if we
were to do an episode over likehow.
Would we fix Marvel?
What would we do?
What?
How do you do that?
Carson (25:34):
It's so funny'cause we have these conversations at work
all the time and I often rantabout how I'm like, we just need
a new phase one.
Like it really, the reasonpeople feel like that there,
it's like this weird limbo stateof Marvel is because.
We have like half of thecharacters are still like from
(25:56):
the old era, who are thensupposed to, like, you're
supposed to remember thecontinuity of, and then like
care for them because you knowthat continuity.
But then you have the newcharacters who are interacting
with old characters, butimmediately who you're trying to
force the same hype of the oldcharacters into this new story.
And then audiences reject thenew characters because they're
(26:18):
just constantly reminded oflike, oh man, wish Chris Evans
was here.
Wish Robert Denny Jr.
Was here.
Wish, whatever.
So like you don't give each newfranchise enough time to breathe
and like build up like thereason Captain America worked,
the reason Thor worked, thereason Iron Man worked is'cause
they all had their own littleworld inhabit.
(26:38):
And by the time it built up tothe Avenger, even the Avengers
in 2012.
Um, you know, the team ups, Ithink about like how hype like
Civil War was when that moviecame out.
Like, but they all had three orfour movies on their own to like
build up its characters andexperiment with different genres
and get people invested in eachof the different, things that
(27:01):
the characters brought to thetable.
It's like you just don't havethat anymore.
And then it's like, boom,here's, here's, Avengers
Doomsday, and, you know.
Don't think too hard that RobertDowney Jr.
Is a different character, but heis, and
Preston (27:16):
It's such
Carson (27:16):
whatever.
Preston (27:17):
I can't
Carson (27:17):
It's,
Preston (27:18):
I have such a hard time with that.
I really do.
Like, I just, you know, maybethey pull it off.
He's a very good actor.
Doom is a fascinating character.
heard they're doing the wholeCGI mask thing, which makes me
want to just crumple into a balland die.
Who knows what happens this yearthough, Carson, we talked a
(27:39):
little bit about Superman andtalked a little bit about.
Weapons.
That was the summer, been aboutfantastic foreign thunderbolts.
And I kind of wanna use that assegue into this year because
there have been some good moviesthat have come out this year,
some of which just mentioned,and others that we haven't
mentioned yet.
One that I kind of want to talkabout, right now is that, mean,
(28:04):
what an experience movie was.
I'm not over that one.
Carson (28:08):
I am kicking myself because I did not see it in
theaters, and I just recentlywatched it like two months ago.
I'm at home and it was of courseamazing at home, but like,
whenever it hopefully getsre-released in imax, that's
gonna be like a day one thingfor me because I can't imagine
how glorious that was.
(28:29):
Didn't you, didn't you drivelike two hours to go see a
nimax, by the way?
Preston (28:33):
I did not drive two hours while I was okay.
I was already going to Dallasfor something else.
Carson (28:40):
For work.
Right, or for something else.
Yeah.
Like,
Preston (28:43):
remember.
To be quite honest, it wasn'tfor work.
It was something for my sister,maybe, I don't know.
Carson (28:49):
hmm.
Preston (28:49):
One way or another, I had something important going on
and I squeezed in sinners, whichthat's a six hour drive.
I squeezed in sinners and I gotthere and I went there
immediately.
Whenever I got there, I drovestraight into the theater
basically, and saw it in 70millimeter imax, which was just
so cool.
I have never, it was the firsttime I'd seen something in 70
(29:11):
millimeter.
Unbelievable.
I felt the worst part about it,was nothing about the movie.
I had already seen it, which wasgood for this scenario, but the
worst part about it was I waslike, uh, I was so pulled up,
right?
And you know, you go on like asix hour road trip, you don't
(29:33):
exactly.
Show up on time of the time.
And I didn't show
Carson (29:38):
Stuff happens.
Preston (29:39):
I showed up, I was like, I don't know, 10, 15
minutes in, there were, Ibelieve, I don't think there
were any trailers because it was70 millimeter.
So it's a whole differentprojecting projection system and
all that.
So they didn't even havetrailers, I don't think.
so I was like thinking the wholetime.
I was like, okay, I'll be goodwith trailers.
And then I get there and Itexted our group chat actually
(30:00):
with some of our friends.
I said, Hey, do they havetrailers for these 70
millimeters and all of our
Carson (30:04):
Immediately were bullied.
Preston (30:06):
I like, I know, how do you not know this?
And, uh, they did not havetrailers.
And so I got in there and man, Ihad my, I, I'm glad I didn't get
like popcorn or like, uh, uh,you know, anything to open
loudly.
'cause my seat, I got thisticket like when they dropped,
(30:27):
like I got this ticket way inadvance.
So my seat
Carson (30:29):
So you are dead in the center.
Preston (30:31):
dab in the middle of that thing.
And this, the theater in the 70millimeter.
It's very compact.
Like they only have, there's nota lot of leg room in these
places.
There's not recliners the waythat.
There aren't a lot of othertheaters because they're trying
to smash as many chairs as theycan, that can see this humongous
screen.
And so I'm like just trying totiptoe through people.
I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
(30:52):
I think I knocked oversomebody's popcorn.
Carson (30:54):
Oh,
Preston (30:54):
think I, I
Carson (30:55):
brutal.
Preston (30:56):
something.
which is just like ATM I, but I,you know, adds to the
Carson (31:01):
No.
After sitting for six hours,like, yeah.
Preston (31:04):
from sitting in my car and from like running to the
theater, like running
Carson (31:09):
Yeah.
Preston (31:09):
essentially, or like fast walking at the very least.
Um, God, it was so embarrassingand I just sat down and I was
like, I can't move for the restof this movie.
Not that I planned to.
You know, but like,
Carson (31:21):
Not a single breath.
Not a single cough.
Preston (31:23):
was a little worried I was
Carson (31:24):
Yeah.
Preston (31:25):
the middle of the movie, because I just tripped
Carson (31:27):
walk in.
Preston (31:28):
20 straight people.
And I just, I felt, I feltterrible for, for all of them.
By myself no less, just thisrandom little boy going to see
sinners, tripping over everybodyon the way in.
But was fantastic.
I loved that movie and I lovedseeing it in 70 Millimeter.
I, there were so many moments,that, you know, I remember
(31:51):
specifically when the first timethey used the full aspect ratio,
my jaw just dropped, know, itwas a cut to.
Carson (31:59):
When, when in the movie did they first do that?
Preston (32:01):
So it's when they're in the little buggy, they're
traveling.
You know what I'm talking about?
Carson (32:06):
Oh, when?
When he, when he first startedsinging to, or like when they
get on the road.
Preston (32:10):
It's like the opening of that scene.
There's a shot of the sun andit's only a couple seconds long,
but it's just a
Carson (32:17):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (32:18):
of the sun just straight up.
there's just kind of a cool wayto just kind of open the scene,
I guess, showing like.
You know, bright sun, hot as hotas hell out there,
Carson (32:27):
Yeah.
Preston (32:27):
know, but that was the first scene and the sun smack
dab in the middle of the frame.
And that was the first scene,the first shot.
If I'm not mistaken, that theyused the full aspect ratio on
it.
And it's not like a gradual sortof thing, you know, the way they
do in some sort of aspect ratioshifts, like
Carson (32:45):
Yeah.
It's just like, boom.
There it is.
Preston (32:46):
And it's cut from, I can't remember.
Maybe like the train.
it wouldn't be the train.
I don't remember what they'recutting from before that scene,
Carson (32:54):
Yeah.
Preston (32:55):
just the fact that it's a, just a shot of the sun, just
like bam.
And it's bright and it's in yourface and it's humongous on that
screen.
My jaw dropped.
I remember when that happened.
I was like, oh my God.
that was incredible.
Now I'm realizing after tellingthis story that I'm not really
the most reliable person to askthat question to because I was
(33:17):
15 minutes late to the movie.
So that might
Carson (33:20):
Yeah, you probably, you probably did miss the first
aspect ratio chain.
Preston (33:24):
There was a pretty good chance I've actually missed it.
Carson (33:27):
I, this is why.
Preston (33:29):
a good
Carson (33:30):
This is why,
Preston (33:30):
my first one,
Carson (33:31):
This will hold us accountable for future releases
that we cannot, and yeah, I knowI have that problem too, of
showing up to movies.
Preston (33:40):
kids.
Carson (33:41):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (33:41):
have no trailers in those
Carson (33:45):
anyways, also, speaking of just like cool things that
have happened this year, like.
Both sinners and weapons andlike some other original movies
doing really good.
I was like that.
It feels,
Preston (33:57):
well.
Carson (33:59):
it feels awesome that like, that sort of, I, and it
feels like it's sort of the, uh,the tides are shifting kind of
moment that like, you know,there's always people that are
like, oh, they're, you know,there's just nothing original
and Hollywood doesn't makeanything original, which like,
yes, from a.
5,000 foot view, like that'sbroadly true.
(34:21):
That like it's very hard to makesomething that's both original
and popular these days.
There's obviously stillthousands of movies that are
original and just aren't widelyseen'cause it's just so much
noise.
But these two movies, doing whatthey did and sinners being the
success that it was, is justawesome because it's such a
cool, unique movie with a uniquemessage.
(34:41):
And I was like, did the, I thinkI wrote like some cheeky one
liner letter box review is likethis, like making me believe in
the post credit scene again.
Like I was like, dang.
Like, because I was thinkinglike.
Okay.
It makes sense that it's postcredit scene, but also it could
have been the ending scene.
But then I thought about itagain.
I was like, I'm so glad that itis the post credit scene.
(35:04):
And it like kind of adds like,just like an after statement
that's not a tease, but likethematically ties the whole
movie together,
Preston (35:11):
nice to see a post credit scene utilized as an
epilogue
Carson (35:15):
Yeah.
Preston (35:16):
of
Carson (35:16):
Yeah.
That's a great way to put it.
Preston (35:18):
Like that.
I feel like that, not that Idislike the hype, you know,
there are some post creditedscenes that I do enjoy that kind
of get me excited.
You know, I think AvengersDoomsday as gonna be a, a
disaster, quite frankly.
Carson (35:33):
Gonna be a dooms day.
Preston (35:35):
I just, I al I was trying to find a pun.
It's gonna be a doomsday.
Uh, I, I, I think it's gonna bebad.
said, though.
All things considered.
At the same time, I would belying I said that the post
credit scene in Fantastic Four,where it shows him, you know,
(35:57):
doom with the baby, I would belying if I didn't kind of like
get a little butterflies in thatmoment.
I was like, oh my God, it's Dr.
Do now.
I do, I think it's gonna, youknow, immediately afterward I
was like, ah, that's, that'sgonna be such a bad movie.
Like they made
Carson (36:11):
You had to like talk to yourself and like
Preston (36:13):
in the
Carson (36:13):
come back down to Earth.
Preston (36:14):
They introduced these characters, I think they did
better than they've ever donewith these four characters and
I'm so happy for that.
And I really bought into it andI really liked it.
You know, I didn't, I didn'tthink it was amazing, but I was
like just excited over the factthat they made a good Fantastic
four movie that I really enjoyedand am looking forward to
rewatching.
And then the immediate real andthe hype of the post credit
(36:37):
scene.
Oh my God, that's Dr.
Do this.
So exciting.
Oh my God, doomsday.
And then just immediately like,oh, they're gonna ruin these
characters.
Oh my.
Carson (36:43):
you just know like, I hate that I'm even tapped into
any of this speculation crapthat it was like, I saw like the
thing of like, well, what ifSpider-Man sees his face and
goes, Mr.
Stark, is that you?
Preston (36:56):
I'll lose my
Carson (36:56):
I just like
Preston (36:57):
my
Carson (36:58):
is, this is everything wrong.
If that happens, we're cancelingthe podcast.
That's, that's just what's gonnahappen.
Preston (37:05):
gonna, don't even, it's over.
It's all done.
Um, I thought Fantastic Four wasgood because effectively it
wasn't an MCU movie at all.
Carson (37:17):
finally could just be in its own time.
Preston (37:20):
It was self-contained.
It was its own thing.
You don't have to worry aboutcameos.
You don't even have to worryabout even if the cameos or the
other appearances fit within thestory.
You know, there's a lot of otherstories that happen the MCU that
they're including different, youknow, like Punisher is going to
be.
(37:40):
A supporting character in thenew Spider-Man movie and it's
probably, I think it'll probablymake sense.
I think it'll probably be weavedin perfectly.
I think that'll be great.
But it was kind of cool to see aFantastic four movie that was
just the Fantastic Four.
You didn't have to, even if theywere well included and good for
the narrative side characters,you just didn't have to make
(38:01):
those connections in your brainof like, oh, he's from this and
that's, that's why he said that,you know, when they make sly
references to their past orwhatever, which they do all the
time.
I thought that was why FantasticFour As good as it was for me
was because it was not an MCUmovie effectively.
(38:21):
It was not, there were noconnections.
was, you know, even the Dr.
Doom stuff, even the, the postcredit with Dr.
Doom, obviously it will connectto doomsday and all that, as it
is, that's new.
It's all new, it's all its ownthing.
And really just, it was nice, itwas a breath of fresh air.
Because you think back to thephase one movies like you're
(38:43):
talking about, we didn't thinkabout that stuff when Captain
America, came out.
I guess there was the, there wasthe connection with Howard Stark
a little bit, but then,
Carson (38:54):
It wasn't nearly as emphasized like or
Preston (38:56):
And Thor
Carson (38:57):
perceptually.
It wasn't.
Yeah.
Preston (38:59):
like Thor won.
Thor is Thor.
There is nothing
Carson (39:03):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (39:03):
in that movie that connects to something else
happening in the universe.
Carson (39:07):
The biggest bummer about Fantastic Ford to me is I wish
the movie came out five yearsago and had its own natural
through line, just like Thor,captain America, all his guys
did.
It sucks that we have a greatfirst appearance from them, and
then they're immediately inAvengers Doomsday as their next
appearance.
To me, that's a huge bummer.
Preston (39:26):
that's why I was kind of bummed out.
Whenever you realize, that'stheir next appearance, because
it says the fantastic four will
Carson (39:32):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Preston (39:34):
it's like, oh.
Carson (39:35):
Yeah.
Preston (39:36):
we don't get a fantastic four, two, we don't
get a,
Carson (39:39):
Yeah.
It's just,
Preston (39:40):
even like a, I don't even know, a, a Disney plus
spinoff show of, you know,Johnny Storm.
I don't care.
Like, we don't get some sort ofnatural continuation of these
characters in this story.
We just are immediately puttingthem into this larger story
somehow that makes no sensestill how they're gonna do
Carson (39:58):
yeah.
Preston (39:59):
That's a bummer.
Carson (40:00):
But yeah, I wish, I almost wish we were like
alternating fantastic four andX-Men movies for like four
years.
Like, honestly, like I would'vetaken something that was like no
other MCU movies came out, postEndgame except Fantastic Four
and X-Men movies.
And then like those charactersanchored the new.
(40:23):
Team up movies, it would've beenpretty cool.
And then obviously Spider-Man.
But again, it's just tough whenyou get to a point of like line
go up, we need to make money onall these movies.
Preston (40:34):
the issue with all of it.
I think
Carson (40:36):
Yeah.
Preston (40:36):
so much more successful, if they were able to
take like a five year hiatus
Carson (40:42):
Oh, can you imagine?
Preston (40:44):
end game.
Carson (40:45):
I.
Preston (40:45):
Like, you know, maybe release Guardians of Galaxy
Volume three.
But other than that, you know,just be able to take a break.
But they couldn't do that.
So, because there's money to bemade and the mouse stops for no
one.
As I've learned in personalexperience, Mickey Mouse needs
his paychecks, Bob Iger as well.
(41:06):
What else came
Carson (41:06):
If he ever retires.
Preston (41:08):
Yeah.
Who they, he tried and thennearly ran the company on the
ground
Carson (41:12):
They needed him back.
Preston (41:13):
Yeah.
They need, and that's, you know,I far be it from me to, as the
kids say glaze a CEO of acorporation, but man, as a, as a
lifelong Disney guy, I'm wearinga Pixar hat, Walt Disney World
shirt.
I can't even fake it right now.
Um, am who I am as a lifelongDisney guy.
(41:33):
You know, it's like.
That, that jpeg era was notgood, at all for, for the the,
for the films, for the tv, andespecially for what I care about
the parks.
It was just, it was disastrous.
But this summer some other goodstuff came out.
I liked the Naked Gun a lot andI have not seen Its
(41:54):
predecessors.
Carson (41:55):
Yeah.
Preston (41:55):
love that movie.
I was laugh, a joke every.
45 seconds is such a risk totake and when it's got like a
95% hit rate, that's insane.
Did you
Carson (42:09):
It's pretty, pretty dang good.
No, and I've been wanting towatch it.
Um,
Preston (42:13):
It's pretty
Carson (42:13):
'cause I have seen the original.
Yeah.
Preston (42:18):
Like
Carson (42:19):
They were worried that it was like, because it's like,
it's like old style, sarcasm andlike, or not sarcasm, like, it's
just a different style of jokethat I don't necessarily think
people in their twentieswould've found funny, but it
seems like everyone I talked tothat has seen it and know
nothing about, naked Gun islike, oh my gosh.
It was fricking hilarious.
Preston (42:37):
Yeah, so that's kinda the last two years.
We are going to be continuing,this is not a one-time reunion
of Zollypod and then we aregone.
That is not what's happeninghere.
We will be releasing newepisodes and we will be talking
about new things.
Including, but not limited toAvatar, fire and Ash, which we
(42:58):
are not getting paid for.
But if, if you, Hey
Carson (43:01):
We could be,
Preston (43:02):
Hey Jim,
Carson (43:03):
could be paid for
Preston (43:04):
you wanna pay us, like well dang it, you actually, you
know, like, us see the movie 24hours early.
That's it.
I don't need money
Carson (43:11):
That's all we need.
Preston (43:12):
that's fi six hours early.
I don't care enough to where Ican get out and be like, I saw
it.
Have fun.
what are you excited for as theremainder of this year and
really, I guess broadly, evenmore so just for the future of
this podcast?
Carson (43:28):
Yeah, so in terms of the podcast, I think I'm just
excited to like.
Try and build this back up andbuild it past what we kind of
accomplished before and likereally get a consistency with
it.
Talk about a variety ofdifferent things, you know, kind
of hopefully build some sort ofcommunity around it eventually,
like somewhere that we can bothtalk about the things that we're
(43:50):
watching, but also, you know,more broadly what's happening
with movies, we, I think we kindof default to that sometimes
'cause it's fun to talk aboutlike, oh, look at the trajectory
of Marvel and how it's affectedthe movie business.
Like I think we, we kind of nerdout over like the broader
picture of how movies and thebusiness works.
And I think it's fun to analyzethat.
But then also like nerd outabout like.
(44:11):
You know, individual filmmakersand maybe old movies that we
haven't watched or, I know it'sgonna be fun to like introduce
each other to movies that we'vereally appreciated that the
other person hasn't seen.
Stuff like that.
I'm excited to talk to otherpeople and interview people and
bring people on this podcastthat, also have perspectives on,
on movies and everything inbetween.
(44:32):
So I think that's gonna be a funfeature of whatever these
episodes look like goingforward.
And then, yeah, movies wise,like 2026 is kind of insane.
A lot of big movies coming out.
A lot of, smaller filmmakerscoming back.
I think next year is gonna bepretty big.
The rest of this year too,there's, some really fun things
(44:54):
coming out.
Obviously I'm looking forward tosomething like Avatar.
But also like, you know, we haveOscar season coming up.
I'm excited for like, wake Up,dead Mans coming out.
We got, all sorts of moviesfrom.
Big filmmakers that we, youknow, some of which we've talked
about on the podcast before
Preston (45:14):
Spider-Man are next year.
If we're talking
Carson (45:16):
it, that's crazy.
Preston (45:18):
genre, like that's next year.
Carson (45:20):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (45:21):
the ones that we've talked about, but it's pretty
crazy that that's next year.
They just announced, and thisisn't really maybe our niche,
but the Super Mario Galaxy movieis coming out starring Mario
Chris
Carson (45:32):
Starring.
Yep.
And I love.
Super Mario Galaxy.
So I'll be so curious because Ididn't really like the, the
movie, um,
Preston (45:42):
story five.
Carson (45:42):
what this movie.
I feel like that's gonna be atwo hour and 40 minute episode
podcast
Preston (45:49):
could be.
Carson (45:49):
us about reflecting about the deeper meaning of
should they make a sequel orshould they not.
Preston (45:55):
That's, Yeah.
Carson (45:57):
But yes, lots of stuff coming out.
Preston (45:59):
Lots of good stuff coming out.
Lots of things to be excitedfor.
I'm really excited, to have moreguests on this show, and get
back into
Carson (46:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Preston (46:07):
Great interviews in the past and, I'm looking forward to
kind of getting back into thatand having some interesting
guests on the pod because youknow, that was kind of the
original vision of this show wewant to create a space where we
can obviously, you know, haveour own kind of podcast the way
that we have for the last 52minutes give or take.
(46:30):
But that being said also towhere not only it's just us
talking, but where we kind ofget some insight and talk to
some people about what theirrole within the industry is and
what they do and why they loveit, and, and, and those.
Those sorts of things, and Ithink that that'll be something
that I'm excited for personally.
Whether it's talking aboutmovies or just production in
(46:51):
general I think is just reallyfascinating.
There's so many different angleswith that.
I'm really excited to talk to.
Different people and get theirperspectives and be able to
share some of those stories onhere, as well.
It's gonna be fun.
I'm excited for it.
And we are going to remain,whether you like it or not, I'm
looking directly at the camera
Carson (47:09):
On all platforms, we will remain.
Preston (47:11):
on all platforms.
That is a threat.
Carson (47:16):
So you have, you have, with that said, you have to
follow us now
Preston (47:19):
follow
Carson (47:20):
if you're new especially,
Preston (47:21):
Subscribe.
Carson (47:22):
and if you are new, you can go back to season one
Preston (47:26):
season one, because
Carson (47:27):
I mean, listen, you're not watching, this is season two
is Oli Pod.
Preston (47:31):
And it will be never ending.
We may never switch to a seasonthree because we're gonna be so
consistent
Carson (47:37):
If, if we get to.
Episode 2 99.
And then what do we do?
Well, 2 99 0.1.
Get ready?
Preston (47:45):
Yep.
That just goes on till 2 990.99.
This is how long we're going forthis thing.
You're in it for the long haul
Carson (47:52):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (47:52):
Carson, final thoughts, anything that we haven't talked
about that you wanna mentionbefore we hop off this thing?
Carson (47:59):
Oh, just excited to be back.
And yeah, like we said, there'sgonna be, regular episodes
coming and we're excited to, putour heads together and come up
with some unique episode ideasas well.
You know, this is obviously justkind of a kickoff episode to
kind of announce that we'reback, but we're definitely gonna
come up with some fun, thingsas, the year goes on.
(48:19):
You know, I think back to likeour Halloween horror episodes, I
can't wait for that time ofyear.
It's personally one of myfavorite holidays.
So
Preston (48:27):
like
Carson (48:27):
definitely,
Preston (48:28):
mean, we got like two
Carson (48:29):
uh, right now get ready,
Preston (48:31):
Yeah, we're just gonna turn into a Halloween podcast.
Gotcha.
We're
Carson (48:35):
trick or treat the rewatch.
Preston (48:38):
Trick or treat, re rewatch.
Um, no.
That'll be great.
We got a lot of good stuff, thatwe're excited to bring back to
this podcast and excited.
So like we said, if you have notsubscribed, make sure you do so
because we will be back.
If you have not turned on yournotifications, make sure you do
so.
You can follow us on socialmedia at Zollypod, and we will
be back with the next one verysoon.
Welcome back to Zollypod.
I'm your host, Preston Moore.
Joined by my co-host CarsonTerrell.
Carson.
We have been gone for a little,a little while.
A lot of pe I think a lot ofpeople thought we were dead, but
we're not.
Carson (00:34):
This is a little bit of when Palpatine returned and the
rise of Skywalker.
This is our moment.
We're Ian McDermott at the endof the, the first trailer, and
everyone is perplexed on how,why.
Preston (00:47):
Somehow.
Carson (00:48):
But we're defying all odds right now.
Preston (00:50):
Zollypod returned, Zollypod returned against all
the odds.
Truly.
Um, yeah, I mean it's kind of, Ijust kind of think that we
should just kind of explain.
In this episode what's beengoing on because it is kind of
difficult to maintain a podcastregularly in 2025 when you have
(01:12):
full-time jobs and you're busyand you have your life.
And Carson, you have had moresignificant life updates than
I've had in the last two yearsor however long it's been since
we've recorded one.
Carson (01:25):
And I cannot believe, first of all, that it's been
like two years.
I think I got an email the otherday'cause I had, I think put
like our subscription on holdfor like,'cause like people
forget when you have a podcast,like you have to like
continually like update it.
Otherwise it'll be like, yourepisodes will go away in 42
days.
And I was like, oh crap.
(01:46):
And like literally as soon asthat, or like before that even
happened, we had.
Started texting back and forth,like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if
we brought this back?
And then lo and behold, here weare.
Yeah, all I can really say islife has been busy in a good
way.
Work has been really busy.
I got married this year.
Preston (02:06):
I was gonna
Carson (02:06):
I traveled
Preston (02:07):
in a good way for you
Carson (02:08):
Yes,
Preston (02:09):
married
Carson (02:09):
a great way.
And I think we're just both likeat that stage of our life, like
mid twenties, just like.
I feel like everyone is havingmajor life events like every
other month.
I don't know if it feels likethat in your life too, where
it's like, oh my gosh, I feel soobligated to like, do all these
different things for otherpeople and like show up and do,
(02:30):
you know, obviously it's, it'sall fun, but like, it, it gets,
it adds up and kind of feelslike life on the road.
Going to weddings every otherweekend is the best way I could
describe it, but yeah.
How about you, Preston?
I know you've been busy too.
What have you been up to?
Preston (02:47):
I,
Carson (02:48):
going on?
Preston (02:48):
am not married.
That has not changed, and I canconfidently say from our last
recording compared to now, I amno closer to getting married
than I was then.
Carson (02:59):
You mean?
Our Soca season one reviewdidn't have people in your dms
Preston (03:05):
yeah.
You know, I, when we releasedthat, I really thought, this is
it.
This is my, this is gonna be, Ishould have put it in my, in my
Tinder or in my hinge orsomething.
Here's a link to my,
Carson (03:16):
The Just delete all bios.
Just host Zollypod that's there.
There's no, it's like no funfacts, just, it's like you get
to the fun facts.
Three fun facts about me.
Host a Zollypod host a Zollypodhost a Zollypod.
Preston (03:29):
Host, producer,
Carson (03:30):
No,
Preston (03:31):
co-creator,
Carson (03:31):
no further questions.
Preston (03:33):
Yeah.
I'm just gonna link all theepisodes and, and that's what,
this is, this, that's what thisis for me.
That's why I wanted to bringthis podcast back.
Pars Carson is just to hopefullyget some women in my dms.
No.
I, I've been pretty busy.
You know, I've been, you know,living back here in Texas and,
keeping busy as best I can.
Doing sports reporting and a lotof other things.
Right now I'm kind of planningsome next steps for the future,
(03:56):
making, hopefully some big lifechanges.
And over the course of the nextyear, we'll see kind of what
that looks like, whenever thatsort of does unfurl.
But with all of that being said.
When it comes to this show, thisis something that, you know,
people asked, and I know thatyou and I kind of talked a
little bit about this, butpeople always ask, when you
announce that you have somethinglike this, and then, you do like
(04:17):
10 episodes and then it justkind of trails off.
People are like, do you have apodcast?
Right?
Don't you have a podcast?
Or like, when are you stilldoing that?
Is that coming out?
And so I've had a lot of peoplewithin my life just ask, Hey, is
this something that.
Do you have a podcast?
And I'm like, well.
I do.
And I, I would like to get backinto it.
And that kind of got me thinkingabout it and I've had a little
(04:39):
bit more time on my hands evenrecently, to go to the theater,
just in general.
So I've got a lot of, there's alot of movies that I've wanted
to talk about in recent months,as well as just some that I
didn't get to talk about on hereover the course of the last
couple years.
And I know that you kind of arein a similar state right now.
Carson (04:58):
For sure.
And I think like ironically, itkind of goes, runs parallel to
like I haven't been able towatch movies as much because
when I do watch movies, it'svery much something like, I feel
like, uh, like right now it'slike.
I wanna put the intention to itand sit down and not feel
(05:18):
distracted.
It's like being in the rightmindset to like just watch a
movie.
It sounds so stupid, but it'salso like the same way I felt
about this, bringing thispodcast back is like, you wanna
do it right and you want to do,put intention behind it.
And sometimes when I like.
I don't know.
You ever have that like weirdthing where it's like you have
all these expectations about anew movie or someone recommends
you a movie and you go and youwatch it, but you're just like,
(05:41):
you're tired, you're not in theright mood, whatever it may be
happening in your outside lifeand you're like, man, like I
can't get through this.
Like, this is good, but I can'tgive it the appreciation that I
want to.
I feel like that's kind of beenmy media diet for the last two
years.
Just with how busy I've been andthen you get to a point where
(06:01):
you're like, man, I don't knowif I could do this and respect
the art as much as I would liketo.
And it sounds so silly.
It's like, okay, most people arelike, I'm just gonna put on
Happy Gilmore too on a Fridaynight and have some laughs,
which I did watch Happy Gilmoretoo, and I had some laughs.
Preston (06:19):
with, with a, with Happy Gilmore too.
No disrespect to anyone whoworked on Happy Gilmore too, but
I would just kind of put that onand be on my phone maybe for a
little bit of it.
I'm not gonna lie, I think itwas made for that.
Carson (06:29):
And I feel
Preston (06:30):
tries that.
Carson (06:32):
Exactly.
And so I feel like every fiberof like attention span, eating
like black box that your phoneis, and like with everything,
it's like it's become harder andharder to like just break that
cycle.
And I just felt like.
I don't know, like if you lookat my letterbox, there's
probably some months where Iwatched like one movie,
Preston (06:52):
I think I
Carson (06:53):
there might be a month on there.
Preston (06:54):
missed it, where I
Carson (06:56):
Yeah.
Like,
Preston (06:56):
I went, I, I was bad.
Our friends have
Carson (06:59):
like I,
Preston (07:00):
relentlessly
Carson (07:01):
oh, we are running memes at this point that like, yeah.
It's like, oh, you didn't watchmovie this week.
You Biden as well be Cars andPreston.
And it's like, it's derogatory.
Dang in the group chat rightnow,
Preston (07:14):
It's tied to our name.
we
Carson (07:17):
so,
Preston (07:19):
and not in
Carson (07:19):
maybe in a way also bringing this back is like, just
to get back into the swing ofthings and, you know, not be the
guy in the group chat that saysthey're gonna go watch a movie
in theaters.
Then three months goes by, like,I know the other week I was.
Messaging the group chat, I'mlike, man, I wish 28 years later
didn't cost$20 to, to watch.
And everyone's just like, you'reso stupid.
(07:41):
Like, you should have gone inJune.
And I'm like, yeah, I probablyshould have.
Preston (07:47):
Yep.
Carson (07:48):
And that's what I got that
Preston (07:49):
And where we're at.
It is, sort of something likethis can kind of, I think it can
you on to watch a little morebecause we have become something
of a meme within, our circlesand to those of them that are
listening now, just know.
You gotta, it's done now.
We're done with that.
We're done with that.
We're back and we're gonna bewatching movies and we are no
(08:10):
longer gonna be the memes.
Now, as far as catching up witha lot of the movies that we
missed, I know that that may bedifficult.
Over the course of the lastcouple of years though, there
has been, a plethora of goodmovies that have come out, good
TV that's come out and, youknow, obviously we've had, some
trials in terms of getting tothe theater and in terms of
(08:30):
watching movies, but I know thatneither of us entirely stopped.
I know that neither of us,missed out on everything.
So with that being said, I wannatalk a little bit about some of
our favorites over the course ofthe last couple of years, and
like we said, there's been a1,000,001 changes, over the
course of the last two years,but Carson, what are some
favorites of yours that you'veseen whether they came out in
(08:51):
the last two years or if youjust watched them in the last
two years, or you've taken aliking to them or something
along those lines?
Carson (08:58):
So now I'm trying to tabulate when our last episode
was.
Preston (09:02):
This is ballpark.
Carson (09:04):
Was,
Preston (09:04):
was a while.
Carson (09:05):
okay.
Was it in, was it in 2024 thatwe last recorded?
It had to have been, right?
Preston (09:11):
I would
Carson (09:11):
No,
Preston (09:13):
but
Carson (09:13):
I feel like it's like January, 2024.
So I'm just gonna go withJanuary, 2024 is a rough
ballpark and I'm trying to like.
I tabulate from there.
Some favorite movies.
It's crazy like Dune part twohas already come out and Dune
part three is already filming.
(09:33):
And that's crazy to say that thelast time, one of our episodes
we had interviewed, someonewho'd worked on the first Dune
and it was like, that was reallyfun.
That was one of my favoriteepisodes, that we did.
Just seeing that barrel Forwardas a franchise and be successful
was like really cool.
Preston (09:49):
That
Carson (09:49):
Um, second movie is just as good.
Preston (09:52):
that I've
Carson (09:53):
Yeah.
Um, that's awesome.
Preston (09:54):
that movie so many times.
Carson (09:56):
Yeah.
I just got the 4K Blu-rayactually, and I'm totally due
for a rewatch'cause I saw ittwice in theaters and I don't
think I've actually watched itsince it came out in theaters
and I'm really excited torewatch.
But yeah.
What a movie like.
Just gorgeous.
Again, you know, from atechnical perspective, like just
makes every modern blockbusterlook silly.
(10:19):
Other than avatar way of water,
Preston (10:22):
Yeah, which we will get to Avatar in this episode.
I will, I will make sure I'llshoehorn it in if I have to.
Carson (10:28):
we are actually paid by Disney to shill,
Preston (10:33):
Yeah.
Carson (10:33):
avatar, fire, and Ash.
That is why conveniently.
Preston (10:36):
back, uh, because Avatar Fire and Ashe is coming
out in a couple months
Carson (10:39):
Yeah, this is like a three month promotional cycle.
So we probably will just,
Preston (10:44):
and said, Hey, you guys need to get back on the air.
Carson (10:48):
it's gonna be like, instead of like soups, like
shaking hands with a Tom Cruiseon the set of Mission
Impossible, it's gonna be uslike thumbs up with, James
Cameron in New Zealand, like ona giant set and it'll all be
worth it.
You'll be so influenced by us.
Preston (11:06):
you'll be so influenced incredibly in, you're not gonna
believe how
Carson (11:10):
Because the,
Preston (11:10):
be.
Carson (11:11):
The$2.7 billion movies need our influence, that's for
sure.
Preston (11:16):
do.
Carson (11:17):
Dune part two.
Really, really good.
Loved it.
Definitely one of my favoriteblockbusters of not only the
last two years, but five, 10years way back from what I can
remember.
Also a lot of cool smallermovies have come out, I know
recently, I saw weapons thissummer and that was awesome.
And that's also like a$30million movie that was like kind
(11:40):
of just punched above itsweight.
And I was like, oh crap.
How did they pull some of thisoff
Preston (11:45):
Yeah.
Carson (11:46):
at that budget range?
And it kind of was like one ofthose movies that like, I'm sure
you've had like inklings of thisover the last two years.
You're like, man, filmmaking iscool.
I want to go.
Abandon everything and go on adesert island and just watch
movies all the time.
I think that was one of thosemovies for me.
Preston (12:02):
and try to, you know, I'm moving to Hollywood, I'm
going, I'm going, I'm
Carson (12:06):
Yeah.
Yes.
Like the whole, throw everythingin the back of your car.
I'm leaving.
I'm going to la.
Oh.
Does sound like a dream.
what else we've had, like howmany?
We've had like two full Oscarseasons probably since, since
(12:26):
everything went down with theend of our last episode.
Um, what are.
Preston (12:33):
in, in January 20, 24, I watched a lot.
I, I, I actually ended upwatching a good amount of movies
and one of them.
I know people had tried to getme to watch for a very long
time.
Was La La Land and that moviejust sticks with you.
And I know a lot of peopleobviously have seen that, I'm
(12:56):
sure.
But you know, whenever you watchthat movie, I mean, that, that
stuck with me.
It stick with stuck with me forthe next year and a half.
You know, LA La Land is such a.
It's such a fantastic moviemusical.
It's, it's just everything that,that I think a movie musical
should be.
And I was actually in the carjust yesterday with my little
brother and he like.
(13:16):
So my little brother, he loves,he's, he's very much into music
in the last couple of years,like extremely into music.
But he loves like, and he's notgonna listen to this.
So I can say this, John listensto, and I love him to death.
He's my favorite person in theworld.
John listens to shittiest popsongs you've ever heard, uh,
(13:41):
regularly, not
Carson (13:43):
So he's a real diet Pepsi, Addison Ray kind of guy.
Preston (13:46):
Well, you, I al I wish it was more of, more along
those.
You don't even know music canget to this level, until you
hear it all the time.
But not even that he listens tothe kids bot versions of those.
Carson (14:00):
Oh fantastic.
Preston (14:02):
songs out there and then they just like up the
octaves maybe like seven timesto where it's nasally and just
like high pitched and it's like,ooh, it's uh, I love him to
death.
Anyways, we were in the car andum, don't have kids, Bob on my
phone and he knows this, sothat's a non-negotiable, that's
a non-starter for me.
But we were in the car.
(14:22):
he was just, he loves to justskip through songs.
He doesn't even let them play.
Like he'll shuffle my entirelibrary, or he'll go through a
go find a playlist of mine andhe'll hit shuffle and he'll just
skip through every single one.
Even if they're ones, he knows,if he likes, like he won't let
it play for five seconds andI'll just be like, oh, that's a
good one.
And it's gone before it starts.
It's just who he is.
But just yesterday, another dayof Sun from La La Land came on.
(14:47):
And I like, I like, you know,when your mom like reaches
across the, the, the thing andlike when you're hitting the
brake and just like, stop as ifyou're gonna fly out of the, out
of the windshield.
I did that even though we werenot in a dangerous, precarious
situation.
I reached over, I was like, no.
We are not skipping this, we'renot skipping another day of sun.
You are gonna listen to thissong and you are gonna like it.
(15:09):
And he did.
Um, and so I think things likethat, you know, John's hard to
impress in terms of, reallyanything at all.
And he'll tell you when he's notimpressed in terms of anything
at all.
And he was impressed by anotherday of Sun from La la Land.
So that movie sticks with you,and even.
The details of it, even ifyou're not seeing the amazing
(15:30):
choreography and that number andall of the incredible
cinematography and the colorsand everything, even just
listening to the music, youknow, something like that can
still be affecting.
For someone like John wholistens to.
most BB Rexha, Tate, McCree,
Carson (15:46):
Oh, not David Gray.
Preston (15:48):
and I that you could ever even come up with.
Another day of sun is now addedto the, added to the, the
library for John.
Hopefully they don't make a kidsBob version
Carson (15:59):
I hope they don't, but it does just confirm that that
movie has zero skips and youknow, it may get, that movie may
give me eternal depression, butsoundtrack good.
Preston (16:12):
Yeah.
Sound check analysis.
Carson (16:18):
That's, that's what we're here for.
What else has been, I'm tryingto look at my diary of things,
of movies that have both comeout and old movies that I've
watched or watched for the firsttime.
Um.
Preston (16:36):
Last year, one that came out, that, I mean, there
were a couple that came out thatI saw, but um.
The heavy hitters I think oflast, last summer, at least in
terms of office and what hadeverybody showing up was two
that I saw that I think ofparticularly, were inside Out
Two and Deadpool and Wolverine,and those are big like franchise
(16:59):
movies, you know, they're bigsequels and, all that.
But, I think that those, it'sinteresting to look back on both
of those, actually, about a yearlater
Carson (17:07):
Yeah, totally.
Preston (17:08):
because.
I liked inside out too.
I didn't think I was as good asthe first one, but I enjoyed it.
And then Deadpool and Wolverine,I saw it the first time and I
laughed a good bit, but
Carson (17:20):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (17:21):
I can't say I thought about it again ever.
Especially now, I'm like thatthey made a Hugh Jackman
Wolverine movie less than ayear, about a year ago.
Can you Even my, my automaticreaction to that statement is
no, they didn't.
Carson (17:38):
You know what I saw today, actually, this is
hilarious.
It was a clip of someone.
Analyzing the lyrics of, the BoBurnham songs.
'cause he, I guess he mentionsDeadpool in one of the songs in
the, the inside movie.
Um, and then someone pulled apodcast clip.
Preston (17:54):
for the
Carson (17:54):
Nope, nope.
Preston (17:55):
on the mic
Carson (17:55):
For the record.
For the record.
I have not seen
Preston (17:59):
I'll stop.
Carson (17:59):
here we go.
So
Preston (18:01):
silence after that.
Carson (18:02):
he hates Deadpool and he was talking about how Deadpool
is like.
You know, people are like, oh,Deadpool's one of us.
He's ironic and just like, hekind of is just like, screw this
and, you know, breaking thefourth wall and it's supposed to
be like this, like relatable,like, funny guy.
(18:22):
And he was contrasting that withlike, okay, really Deadpool is
like the$200 million.
Disney backed.
Merger.
The only reason they haveDeadpool is'cause they did this
merger and like all this stuffand like that really it's, it's
just a corporation selling backthe idea of irony and like
(18:43):
funniness to you.
And like when I think back onthat movie, I was like, it's
kind of what I think of now.
Just like I had fun in themoment, but at what cost to
like, is this what movies andfun and like.
It just felt like it was createdin a lab.
The more I think about it tolike reverse manufacture what
(19:07):
intellectual property could be.
Preston (19:09):
Yeah.
Carson (19:10):
And then I think about like, again, jumping the gun
here, but like the earnesty andsincerity of something like
Superman being like the completeantithesis to like that approach
that Deadpool and Wolverine did.
And I was like, man, I soprefer.
The Superman approach a thousandtimes over, and I'm glad that
(19:33):
movie was successful because nowit wasn't as nearly as
successful as Deadpool andWolverine.
And so who knows what havoc thatwill ultimately see what the
lessons, um, from,
Preston (19:46):
though,
Carson (19:46):
from Marvel
Preston (19:47):
a year, because what we're like roughly a year and
maybe what, two months sinceDeadpool and Wolverine Right
Carson (19:55):
Past it.
Preston (19:55):
and a year and a month
Carson (19:58):
Yeah, you still don't even know when he is gonna show
up again.
Preston (20:00):
post Superman, which would be about a year from now,
I would say After a year and twomonths of Superman, more people
will remember Superman thancurrently.
Remember Deadpool and Wolverine.
Carson (20:17):
I hope so.
Preston (20:18):
I have to believe that because Superman, like it just
Deadpool and Wolverine.
I look back on it and I'm, well,I don't look back on it.
That's the thing is I just
Carson (20:27):
Yeah, very true.
Preston (20:28):
not come to my mind as something that happened.
I cannot believe that they, andnot only did they.
Get Hugh Jackman to come back asWolverine, they got him to come
back as Wolverine number one.
That's insane.
People wanted that for so long,and didn't think it would've
happened.
And this iconic casting, andthen they give him the suit, the
Wolverine suit, the comicWolverine suit that again,
(20:51):
people have wanted for a verylong time that Fox never did in
of any of their X-Men movies.
That's a huge deal After over 20years of, of, of.
Hugh Jackman is Wolverine.
You're giving him the suit, andthen they're pairing him with
Deadpool, an incrediblysuccessful character, both,
critically and financially inhis first two films.
And again, a pairing that peoplereally wanted to happen for a
(21:15):
long time and kind of justresigned to the fact that it
probably wouldn't, but peoplecertainly wanted for so long.
They do all of that.
And then it's just so cookiecutter, there's nothing.
To remember about it.
It has no balls.
Superman has a lot of balls.
Superman takes risks.
It goes out there, it hassomething to say, you know, and
(21:35):
it's, it does feel very freshand it feels, very unique.
And I think one thing aboutSuperman, even, you know, beyond
the.
The fact that it didn't make awhole, well, it, it was
successful, but that it wasn'tas successful as maybe some of
the more hardcore fans of itwanted to be like you and I, I
think did much more for the DCbrand going forward.
(22:03):
they needed a movie like thisthat was, know, relatively
successful.
Which it was, it wasn't like thebiggest hit.
but it was relatively successfulenough people saw it the general
audience perception of DC islike dark, gloomy, you know,
serious compared to Marvel.
Happy, lighthearted, fun.
(22:25):
That's just kind of in a nut ina nutshell what, what it is.
And think Superman probably dida good bit to reverse a lot of
that, because of how optimisticit was, because of how bright it
was, because of how fun it wasand because how truly different
it feels.
And I'm a fan of a lot of ZachSnyder's films and I'm certainly
(22:46):
a fan of Christopher Nolan's,the Dark Knight Films, and the
Batman from Matt Reeves.
It is very different, from allof those movies tonally, and I
think that did a lot for, for,for DC as a brand going forward.
So I do think that a lot ofpeople will remember Superman or
at least share it with people oryou know, it seems like they're
kind of building around it withSupergirl and Man of Tomorrow
(23:09):
was recently announced as, asthe direct sequel to it, and I
think he's probably gonna makean appearance and.
Peacemaker season two.
That has not happened, butthey've, I feel like it's gonna
happen, but I don't know.
I think it's gonna have a littlemore sticking power because of a
lot of those reasons that youmentioned is it's very unique in
its approach.
It's very different.
It's not just trying to, youknow, it, it's not, it's
(23:34):
certainly not forgettable in theway that a lot of others have
been.
Carson (23:38):
Yeah.
And that's something else that'shappened really of like, um.
Just to show you how much canchange in two years as we've
went from Marvel being on top ofthe world, they were already
kind of tapering off, two yearsago.
But now,
Preston (23:52):
not to
Carson (23:52):
um, it's, it's crazy to think that there is an Avengers
movie coming out tentatively theend of next year, and I feel
zero emotions towards anymomentum.
Towards anything happening inthat movie.
Preston (24:12):
I feel dread.
Carson (24:14):
And it's, I feel terrified for what the script
could even be.
Preston (24:18):
think
Carson (24:18):
What they are.
Preston (24:19):
think it's
Carson (24:19):
I don't think they know.
And so, you know, it goes offthis whole thing of like, I
think they're just throwingspaghetti at a wall.
And I think the audiences arestarting to reject that a little
bit.
Now granted, Marvel's made somegood movies.
Since, uh, this has happened,but
Preston (24:40):
Four.
Did you
Carson (24:41):
I liked Fantastic Four and
Preston (24:44):
Superman better, but I certainly had a lot of fun with
Fantastic Four.
Thought it was the, maybe the
Carson (24:49):
Me too.
Preston (24:49):
four movie.
Carson (24:51):
You know what I like more than that though, is I
really like Thunderbolts, andit's a ding.
It's a shame that that movieisn't hyped up enough because
audiences have basically.
Rejected stuff in and aroundthat.
So when there's an originalproperty, it's not theatrical
enough that people want to showup and invest in new story.
(25:12):
'cause there's still the stigmaof like, oh my gosh, we're on
like the 32nd Marvel movie.
I need to know all this stuff.
And it's just we, I don't know.
So
Preston (25:23):
I
Carson (25:23):
it's honestly like.
Preston (25:24):
a really interesting episode not to cut in, but if we
were to do an episode over likehow.
Would we fix Marvel?
What would we do?
What?
How do you do that?
Carson (25:34):
It's so funny'cause we have these conversations at work
all the time and I often rantabout how I'm like, we just need
a new phase one.
Like it really, the reasonpeople feel like that there,
it's like this weird limbo stateof Marvel is because.
We have like half of thecharacters are still like from
(25:56):
the old era, who are thensupposed to, like, you're
supposed to remember thecontinuity of, and then like
care for them because you knowthat continuity.
But then you have the newcharacters who are interacting
with old characters, butimmediately who you're trying to
force the same hype of the oldcharacters into this new story.
And then audiences reject thenew characters because they're
(26:18):
just constantly reminded oflike, oh man, wish Chris Evans
was here.
Wish Robert Denny Jr.
Was here.
Wish, whatever.
So like you don't give each newfranchise enough time to breathe
and like build up like thereason Captain America worked,
the reason Thor worked, thereason Iron Man worked is'cause
they all had their own littleworld inhabit.
(26:38):
And by the time it built up tothe Avenger, even the Avengers
in 2012.
Um, you know, the team ups, Ithink about like how hype like
Civil War was when that moviecame out.
Like, but they all had three orfour movies on their own to like
build up its characters andexperiment with different genres
and get people invested in eachof the different, things that
(27:01):
the characters brought to thetable.
It's like you just don't havethat anymore.
And then it's like, boom,here's, here's, Avengers
Doomsday, and, you know.
Don't think too hard that RobertDowney Jr.
Is a different character, but heis, and
Preston (27:16):
It's such
Carson (27:16):
whatever.
Preston (27:17):
I can't
Carson (27:17):
It's,
Preston (27:18):
I have such a hard time with that.
I really do.
Like, I just, you know, maybethey pull it off.
He's a very good actor.
Doom is a fascinating character.
heard they're doing the wholeCGI mask thing, which makes me
want to just crumple into a balland die.
Who knows what happens this yearthough, Carson, we talked a
(27:39):
little bit about Superman andtalked a little bit about.
Weapons.
That was the summer, been aboutfantastic foreign thunderbolts.
And I kind of wanna use that assegue into this year because
there have been some good moviesthat have come out this year,
some of which just mentioned,and others that we haven't
mentioned yet.
One that I kind of want to talkabout, right now is that, mean,
(28:04):
what an experience movie was.
I'm not over that one.
Carson (28:08):
I am kicking myself because I did not see it in
theaters, and I just recentlywatched it like two months ago.
I'm at home and it was of courseamazing at home, but like,
whenever it hopefully getsre-released in imax, that's
gonna be like a day one thingfor me because I can't imagine
how glorious that was.
(28:29):
Didn't you, didn't you drivelike two hours to go see a
nimax, by the way?
Preston (28:33):
I did not drive two hours while I was okay.
I was already going to Dallasfor something else.
Carson (28:40):
For work.
Right, or for something else.
Yeah.
Like,
Preston (28:43):
remember.
To be quite honest, it wasn'tfor work.
It was something for my sister,maybe, I don't know.
Carson (28:49):
hmm.
Preston (28:49):
One way or another, I had something important going on
and I squeezed in sinners, whichthat's a six hour drive.
I squeezed in sinners and I gotthere and I went there
immediately.
Whenever I got there, I drovestraight into the theater
basically, and saw it in 70millimeter imax, which was just
so cool.
I have never, it was the firsttime I'd seen something in 70
(29:11):
millimeter.
Unbelievable.
I felt the worst part about it,was nothing about the movie.
I had already seen it, which wasgood for this scenario, but the
worst part about it was I waslike, uh, I was so pulled up,
right?
And you know, you go on like asix hour road trip, you don't
(29:33):
exactly.
Show up on time of the time.
And I didn't show
Carson (29:38):
Stuff happens.
Preston (29:39):
I showed up, I was like, I don't know, 10, 15
minutes in, there were, Ibelieve, I don't think there
were any trailers because it was70 millimeter.
So it's a whole differentprojecting projection system and
all that.
So they didn't even havetrailers, I don't think.
so I was like thinking the wholetime.
I was like, okay, I'll be goodwith trailers.
And then I get there and Itexted our group chat actually
(30:00):
with some of our friends.
I said, Hey, do they havetrailers for these 70
millimeters and all of our
Carson (30:04):
Immediately were bullied.
Preston (30:06):
I like, I know, how do you not know this?
And, uh, they did not havetrailers.
And so I got in there and man, Ihad my, I, I'm glad I didn't get
like popcorn or like, uh, uh,you know, anything to open
loudly.
'cause my seat, I got thisticket like when they dropped,
(30:27):
like I got this ticket way inadvance.
So my seat
Carson (30:29):
So you are dead in the center.
Preston (30:31):
dab in the middle of that thing.
And this, the theater in the 70millimeter.
It's very compact.
Like they only have, there's nota lot of leg room in these
places.
There's not recliners the waythat.
There aren't a lot of othertheaters because they're trying
to smash as many chairs as theycan, that can see this humongous
screen.
And so I'm like just trying totiptoe through people.
I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
(30:52):
I think I knocked oversomebody's popcorn.
Carson (30:54):
Oh,
Preston (30:54):
think I, I
Carson (30:55):
brutal.
Preston (30:56):
something.
which is just like ATM I, but I,you know, adds to the
Carson (31:01):
No.
After sitting for six hours,like, yeah.
Preston (31:04):
from sitting in my car and from like running to the
theater, like running
Carson (31:09):
Yeah.
Preston (31:09):
essentially, or like fast walking at the very least.
Um, God, it was so embarrassingand I just sat down and I was
like, I can't move for the restof this movie.
Not that I planned to.
You know, but like,
Carson (31:21):
Not a single breath.
Not a single cough.
Preston (31:23):
was a little worried I was
Carson (31:24):
Yeah.
Preston (31:25):
the middle of the movie, because I just tripped
Carson (31:27):
walk in.
Preston (31:28):
20 straight people.
And I just, I felt, I feltterrible for, for all of them.
By myself no less, just thisrandom little boy going to see
sinners, tripping over everybodyon the way in.
But was fantastic.
I loved that movie and I lovedseeing it in 70 Millimeter.
I, there were so many moments,that, you know, I remember
(31:51):
specifically when the first timethey used the full aspect ratio,
my jaw just dropped, know, itwas a cut to.
Carson (31:59):
When, when in the movie did they first do that?
Preston (32:01):
So it's when they're in the little buggy, they're
traveling.
You know what I'm talking about?
Carson (32:06):
Oh, when?
When he, when he first startedsinging to, or like when they
get on the road.
Preston (32:10):
It's like the opening of that scene.
There's a shot of the sun andit's only a couple seconds long,
but it's just a
Carson (32:17):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (32:18):
of the sun just straight up.
there's just kind of a cool wayto just kind of open the scene,
I guess, showing like.
You know, bright sun, hot as hotas hell out there,
Carson (32:27):
Yeah.
Preston (32:27):
know, but that was the first scene and the sun smack
dab in the middle of the frame.
And that was the first scene,the first shot.
If I'm not mistaken, that theyused the full aspect ratio on
it.
And it's not like a gradual sortof thing, you know, the way they
do in some sort of aspect ratioshifts, like
Carson (32:45):
Yeah.
It's just like, boom.
There it is.
Preston (32:46):
And it's cut from, I can't remember.
Maybe like the train.
it wouldn't be the train.
I don't remember what they'recutting from before that scene,
Carson (32:54):
Yeah.
Preston (32:55):
just the fact that it's a, just a shot of the sun, just
like bam.
And it's bright and it's in yourface and it's humongous on that
screen.
My jaw dropped.
I remember when that happened.
I was like, oh my God.
that was incredible.
Now I'm realizing after tellingthis story that I'm not really
the most reliable person to askthat question to because I was
(33:17):
15 minutes late to the movie.
So that might
Carson (33:20):
Yeah, you probably, you probably did miss the first
aspect ratio chain.
Preston (33:24):
There was a pretty good chance I've actually missed it.
Carson (33:27):
I, this is why.
Preston (33:29):
a good
Carson (33:30):
This is why,
Preston (33:30):
my first one,
Carson (33:31):
This will hold us accountable for future releases
that we cannot, and yeah, I knowI have that problem too, of
showing up to movies.
Preston (33:40):
kids.
Carson (33:41):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (33:41):
have no trailers in those
Carson (33:45):
anyways, also, speaking of just like cool things that
have happened this year, like.
Both sinners and weapons andlike some other original movies
doing really good.
I was like that.
It feels,
Preston (33:57):
well.
Carson (33:59):
it feels awesome that like, that sort of, I, and it
feels like it's sort of the, uh,the tides are shifting kind of
moment that like, you know,there's always people that are
like, oh, they're, you know,there's just nothing original
and Hollywood doesn't makeanything original, which like,
yes, from a.
5,000 foot view, like that'sbroadly true.
(34:21):
That like it's very hard to makesomething that's both original
and popular these days.
There's obviously stillthousands of movies that are
original and just aren't widelyseen'cause it's just so much
noise.
But these two movies, doing whatthey did and sinners being the
success that it was, is justawesome because it's such a
cool, unique movie with a uniquemessage.
(34:41):
And I was like, did the, I thinkI wrote like some cheeky one
liner letter box review is likethis, like making me believe in
the post credit scene again.
Like I was like, dang.
Like, because I was thinkinglike.
Okay.
It makes sense that it's postcredit scene, but also it could
have been the ending scene.
But then I thought about itagain.
I was like, I'm so glad that itis the post credit scene.
(35:04):
And it like kind of adds like,just like an after statement
that's not a tease, but likethematically ties the whole
movie together,
Preston (35:11):
nice to see a post credit scene utilized as an
epilogue
Carson (35:15):
Yeah.
Preston (35:16):
of
Carson (35:16):
Yeah.
That's a great way to put it.
Preston (35:18):
Like that.
I feel like that, not that Idislike the hype, you know,
there are some post creditedscenes that I do enjoy that kind
of get me excited.
You know, I think AvengersDoomsday as gonna be a, a
disaster, quite frankly.
Carson (35:33):
Gonna be a dooms day.
Preston (35:35):
I just, I al I was trying to find a pun.
It's gonna be a doomsday.
Uh, I, I, I think it's gonna bebad.
said, though.
All things considered.
At the same time, I would belying I said that the post
credit scene in Fantastic Four,where it shows him, you know,
(35:57):
doom with the baby, I would belying if I didn't kind of like
get a little butterflies in thatmoment.
I was like, oh my God, it's Dr.
Do now.
I do, I think it's gonna, youknow, immediately afterward I
was like, ah, that's, that'sgonna be such a bad movie.
Like they made
Carson (36:11):
You had to like talk to yourself and like
Preston (36:13):
in the
Carson (36:13):
come back down to Earth.
Preston (36:14):
They introduced these characters, I think they did
better than they've ever donewith these four characters and
I'm so happy for that.
And I really bought into it andI really liked it.
You know, I didn't, I didn'tthink it was amazing, but I was
like just excited over the factthat they made a good Fantastic
four movie that I really enjoyedand am looking forward to
rewatching.
And then the immediate real andthe hype of the post credit
(36:37):
scene.
Oh my God, that's Dr.
Do this.
So exciting.
Oh my God, doomsday.
And then just immediately like,oh, they're gonna ruin these
characters.
Oh my.
Carson (36:43):
you just know like, I hate that I'm even tapped into
any of this speculation crapthat it was like, I saw like the
thing of like, well, what ifSpider-Man sees his face and
goes, Mr.
Stark, is that you?
Preston (36:56):
I'll lose my
Carson (36:56):
I just like
Preston (36:57):
my
Carson (36:58):
is, this is everything wrong.
If that happens, we're cancelingthe podcast.
That's, that's just what's gonnahappen.
Preston (37:05):
gonna, don't even, it's over.
It's all done.
Um, I thought Fantastic Four wasgood because effectively it
wasn't an MCU movie at all.
Carson (37:17):
finally could just be in its own time.
Preston (37:20):
It was self-contained.
It was its own thing.
You don't have to worry aboutcameos.
You don't even have to worryabout even if the cameos or the
other appearances fit within thestory.
You know, there's a lot of otherstories that happen the MCU that
they're including different, youknow, like Punisher is going to
be.
(37:40):
A supporting character in thenew Spider-Man movie and it's
probably, I think it'll probablymake sense.
I think it'll probably be weavedin perfectly.
I think that'll be great.
But it was kind of cool to see aFantastic four movie that was
just the Fantastic Four.
You didn't have to, even if theywere well included and good for
the narrative side characters,you just didn't have to make
(38:01):
those connections in your brainof like, oh, he's from this and
that's, that's why he said that,you know, when they make sly
references to their past orwhatever, which they do all the
time.
I thought that was why FantasticFour As good as it was for me
was because it was not an MCUmovie effectively.
(38:21):
It was not, there were noconnections.
was, you know, even the Dr.
Doom stuff, even the, the postcredit with Dr.
Doom, obviously it will connectto doomsday and all that, as it
is, that's new.
It's all new, it's all its ownthing.
And really just, it was nice, itwas a breath of fresh air.
Because you think back to thephase one movies like you're
(38:43):
talking about, we didn't thinkabout that stuff when Captain
America, came out.
I guess there was the, there wasthe connection with Howard Stark
a little bit, but then,
Carson (38:54):
It wasn't nearly as emphasized like or
Preston (38:56):
And Thor
Carson (38:57):
perceptually.
It wasn't.
Yeah.
Preston (38:59):
like Thor won.
Thor is Thor.
There is nothing
Carson (39:03):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (39:03):
in that movie that connects to something else
happening in the universe.
Carson (39:07):
The biggest bummer about Fantastic Ford to me is I wish
the movie came out five yearsago and had its own natural
through line, just like Thor,captain America, all his guys
did.
It sucks that we have a greatfirst appearance from them, and
then they're immediately inAvengers Doomsday as their next
appearance.
To me, that's a huge bummer.
Preston (39:26):
that's why I was kind of bummed out.
Whenever you realize, that'stheir next appearance, because
it says the fantastic four will
Carson (39:32):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Preston (39:34):
it's like, oh.
Carson (39:35):
Yeah.
Preston (39:36):
we don't get a fantastic four, two, we don't
get a,
Carson (39:39):
Yeah.
It's just,
Preston (39:40):
even like a, I don't even know, a, a Disney plus
spinoff show of, you know,Johnny Storm.
I don't care.
Like, we don't get some sort ofnatural continuation of these
characters in this story.
We just are immediately puttingthem into this larger story
somehow that makes no sensestill how they're gonna do
Carson (39:58):
yeah.
Preston (39:59):
That's a bummer.
Carson (40:00):
But yeah, I wish, I almost wish we were like
alternating fantastic four andX-Men movies for like four
years.
Like, honestly, like I would'vetaken something that was like no
other MCU movies came out, postEndgame except Fantastic Four
and X-Men movies.
And then like those charactersanchored the new.
(40:23):
Team up movies, it would've beenpretty cool.
And then obviously Spider-Man.
But again, it's just tough whenyou get to a point of like line
go up, we need to make money onall these movies.
Preston (40:34):
the issue with all of it.
I think
Carson (40:36):
Yeah.
Preston (40:36):
so much more successful, if they were able to
take like a five year hiatus
Carson (40:42):
Oh, can you imagine?
Preston (40:44):
end game.
Carson (40:45):
I.
Preston (40:45):
Like, you know, maybe release Guardians of Galaxy
Volume three.
But other than that, you know,just be able to take a break.
But they couldn't do that.
So, because there's money to bemade and the mouse stops for no
one.
As I've learned in personalexperience, Mickey Mouse needs
his paychecks, Bob Iger as well.
(41:06):
What else came
Carson (41:06):
If he ever retires.
Preston (41:08):
Yeah.
Who they, he tried and thennearly ran the company on the
ground
Carson (41:12):
They needed him back.
Preston (41:13):
Yeah.
They need, and that's, you know,I far be it from me to, as the
kids say glaze a CEO of acorporation, but man, as a, as a
lifelong Disney guy, I'm wearinga Pixar hat, Walt Disney World
shirt.
I can't even fake it right now.
Um, am who I am as a lifelongDisney guy.
(41:33):
You know, it's like.
That, that jpeg era was notgood, at all for, for the the,
for the films, for the tv, andespecially for what I care about
the parks.
It was just, it was disastrous.
But this summer some other goodstuff came out.
I liked the Naked Gun a lot andI have not seen Its
(41:54):
predecessors.
Carson (41:55):
Yeah.
Preston (41:55):
love that movie.
I was laugh, a joke every.
45 seconds is such a risk totake and when it's got like a
95% hit rate, that's insane.
Did you
Carson (42:09):
It's pretty, pretty dang good.
No, and I've been wanting towatch it.
Um,
Preston (42:13):
It's pretty
Carson (42:13):
'cause I have seen the original.
Yeah.
Preston (42:18):
Like
Carson (42:19):
They were worried that it was like, because it's like,
it's like old style, sarcasm andlike, or not sarcasm, like, it's
just a different style of jokethat I don't necessarily think
people in their twentieswould've found funny, but it
seems like everyone I talked tothat has seen it and know
nothing about, naked Gun islike, oh my gosh.
It was fricking hilarious.
Preston (42:37):
Yeah, so that's kinda the last two years.
We are going to be continuing,this is not a one-time reunion
of Zollypod and then we aregone.
That is not what's happeninghere.
We will be releasing newepisodes and we will be talking
about new things.
Including, but not limited toAvatar, fire and Ash, which we
(42:58):
are not getting paid for.
But if, if you, Hey
Carson (43:01):
We could be,
Preston (43:02):
Hey Jim,
Carson (43:03):
could be paid for
Preston (43:04):
you wanna pay us, like well dang it, you actually, you
know, like, us see the movie 24hours early.
That's it.
I don't need money
Carson (43:11):
That's all we need.
Preston (43:12):
that's fi six hours early.
I don't care enough to where Ican get out and be like, I saw
it.
Have fun.
what are you excited for as theremainder of this year and
really, I guess broadly, evenmore so just for the future of
this podcast?
Carson (43:28):
Yeah, so in terms of the podcast, I think I'm just
excited to like.
Try and build this back up andbuild it past what we kind of
accomplished before and likereally get a consistency with
it.
Talk about a variety ofdifferent things, you know, kind
of hopefully build some sort ofcommunity around it eventually,
like somewhere that we can bothtalk about the things that we're
(43:50):
watching, but also, you know,more broadly what's happening
with movies, we, I think we kindof default to that sometimes
'cause it's fun to talk aboutlike, oh, look at the trajectory
of Marvel and how it's affectedthe movie business.
Like I think we, we kind of nerdout over like the broader
picture of how movies and thebusiness works.
And I think it's fun to analyzethat.
But then also like nerd outabout like.
(44:11):
You know, individual filmmakersand maybe old movies that we
haven't watched or, I know it'sgonna be fun to like introduce
each other to movies that we'vereally appreciated that the
other person hasn't seen.
Stuff like that.
I'm excited to talk to otherpeople and interview people and
bring people on this podcastthat, also have perspectives on,
on movies and everything inbetween.
(44:32):
So I think that's gonna be a funfeature of whatever these
episodes look like goingforward.
And then, yeah, movies wise,like 2026 is kind of insane.
A lot of big movies coming out.
A lot of, smaller filmmakerscoming back.
I think next year is gonna bepretty big.
The rest of this year too,there's, some really fun things
(44:54):
coming out.
Obviously I'm looking forward tosomething like Avatar.
But also like, you know, we haveOscar season coming up.
I'm excited for like, wake Up,dead Mans coming out.
We got, all sorts of moviesfrom.
Big filmmakers that we, youknow, some of which we've talked
about on the podcast before
Preston (45:14):
Spider-Man are next year.
If we're talking
Carson (45:16):
it, that's crazy.
Preston (45:18):
genre, like that's next year.
Carson (45:20):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (45:21):
the ones that we've talked about, but it's pretty
crazy that that's next year.
They just announced, and thisisn't really maybe our niche,
but the Super Mario Galaxy movieis coming out starring Mario
Chris
Carson (45:32):
Starring.
Yep.
And I love.
Super Mario Galaxy.
So I'll be so curious because Ididn't really like the, the
movie, um,
Preston (45:42):
story five.
Carson (45:42):
what this movie.
I feel like that's gonna be atwo hour and 40 minute episode
podcast
Preston (45:49):
could be.
Carson (45:49):
us about reflecting about the deeper meaning of
should they make a sequel orshould they not.
Preston (45:55):
That's, Yeah.
Carson (45:57):
But yes, lots of stuff coming out.
Preston (45:59):
Lots of good stuff coming out.
Lots of things to be excitedfor.
I'm really excited, to have moreguests on this show, and get
back into
Carson (46:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Preston (46:07):
Great interviews in the past and, I'm looking forward to
kind of getting back into thatand having some interesting
guests on the pod because youknow, that was kind of the
original vision of this show wewant to create a space where we
can obviously, you know, haveour own kind of podcast the way
that we have for the last 52minutes give or take.
(46:30):
But that being said also towhere not only it's just us
talking, but where we kind ofget some insight and talk to
some people about what theirrole within the industry is and
what they do and why they loveit, and, and, and those.
Those sorts of things, and Ithink that that'll be something
that I'm excited for personally.
Whether it's talking aboutmovies or just production in
(46:51):
general I think is just reallyfascinating.
There's so many different angleswith that.
I'm really excited to talk to.
Different people and get theirperspectives and be able to
share some of those stories onhere, as well.
It's gonna be fun.
I'm excited for it.
And we are going to remain,whether you like it or not, I'm
looking directly at the camera
Carson (47:09):
On all platforms, we will remain.
Preston (47:11):
on all platforms.
That is a threat.
Carson (47:16):
So you have, you have, with that said, you have to
follow us now
Preston (47:19):
follow
Carson (47:20):
if you're new especially,
Preston (47:21):
Subscribe.
Carson (47:22):
and if you are new, you can go back to season one
Preston (47:26):
season one, because
Carson (47:27):
I mean, listen, you're not watching, this is season two
is Oli Pod.
Preston (47:31):
And it will be never ending.
We may never switch to a seasonthree because we're gonna be so
consistent
Carson (47:37):
If, if we get to.
Episode 2 99.
And then what do we do?
Well, 2 99 0.1.
Get ready?
Preston (47:45):
Yep.
That just goes on till 2 990.99.
This is how long we're going forthis thing.
You're in it for the long haul
Carson (47:52):
Mm-hmm.
Preston (47:52):
Carson, final thoughts, anything that we haven't talked
about that you wanna mentionbefore we hop off this thing?
Carson (47:59):
Oh, just excited to be back.
And yeah, like we said, there'sgonna be, regular episodes
coming and we're excited to, putour heads together and come up
with some unique episode ideasas well.
You know, this is obviously justkind of a kickoff episode to
kind of announce that we'reback, but we're definitely gonna
come up with some fun, thingsas, the year goes on.
(48:19):
You know, I think back to likeour Halloween horror episodes, I
can't wait for that time ofyear.
It's personally one of myfavorite holidays.
So
Preston (48:27):
like
Carson (48:27):
definitely,
Preston (48:28):
mean, we got like two
Carson (48:29):
uh, right now get ready,
Preston (48:31):
Yeah, we're just gonna turn into a Halloween podcast.
Gotcha.
We're
Carson (48:35):
trick or treat the rewatch.
Preston (48:38):
Trick or treat, re rewatch.
Um, no.
That'll be great.
We got a lot of good stuff, thatwe're excited to bring back to
this podcast and excited.
So like we said, if you have notsubscribed, make sure you do so
because we will be back.
If you have not turned on yournotifications, make sure you do
so.
You can follow us on socialmedia at Zollypod, and we will
be back with the next one verysoon.
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