Hot Zombie Nerds in Your Area! | Zombie Book Club Ep 108 - Zombie Book Club

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Zombie Book Club, the only book club
where the book is a podcast thatLeah told me I should make
about zombie books and theninsisted they join me as my
co-host.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You're gaslighting me right now.
You're gaslighting the wholeuniverse.
That's not what happened.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
You said, dan, I want to be on a podcast.
Make a podcast just for me.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I wanted to do a podcast about like our
relationship.
This was supposed to be yourpodcast, but now it's ours mine
too.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's our podcast, but now it's mine too.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's our podcast, baby.
Yeah, it's true, it's neitherof our podcasts.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I got off track with my intro.
I'm Dan, and when I'm not doingthe late stage capitalism
shuffle, I'm writing a bookabout a zombie outbreak that
opens the doors for men in powerto seize even more power,
leaving those at the bottom evenmore hopeless and desperate
situations.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's a real pick me up like the daily news and I'm
leah, and we have a lot of newlisteners here who we hope will
become our zombesties withbenefits with benefits.
What kind of benefits are youthinking of?
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't know, I don't like the sound of this not the
kind that anyone's thinking ofright now.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm talking about the benefits of good zombie book
recommendations.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oh, unhinged rants about our current apocalyptic
capitalist hellscape.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Those are the benefits that we offer I get it,
I get it and also getting to bea part of um a group, a group,
group activity, group activitiescalled the book club, a book
club where you get to meet indieauthors and read their books.
Yeah, that makes sense makessense, and sometimes other
authors' books.
Yeah, and sometimes movies.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Many times movies in fact.
In fact, whenever we don't havetime to read a book, we talk
about a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Sometimes we talk about a movie or a.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
TV show.
You know, the original introthat I had planned was the only
book club where the book is amovie, and if a picture is worth
a thousand words, then maybe amovie is worth like 10 million
words.
I don't know.
I was workshopping it.
It's not great, which is why Ididn't go with it.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Delete it.
Delete that.
This must be a good firstimpression for people, dan.
Yeah, delete it.
Delete, this would be a goodfirst impression for people.
Dan.
Yeah, uh, today we arereintroducing ourselves, lifting
the skirts, oh, the curtains,the skirts, yeah, so you can
look under them.
Oh, see what's happening.
Acceptable behind the scenesdesign book club and answering

(02:40):
current zombies and some new tous zombies burningies, burning
questions.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
If questions burn for more than four hours, please
see a doctor.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
If you pee and it burns, really go see a doctor.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I mean, we've all been there.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Have we no, hey, no, shame.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
These things happen, Leah?
We asked you, the listener Leah, to send in some questions that
make us rethink our lives andour marriage and also makes us
feel terribly awkward, or justthe stupidest question you can
think of and how did that come?
How did that work out?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know I was kind of worried.
I was like are we ready for anAsk Me Anything episode?
I was like, is anybody going toask us questions?
And then they came in droves.
They sure did.
And they took it serious when Isaid stupid or make us rethink
our marriage.
Okay, so it's going to be goodtoday.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So this will be the last episode.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, so it's going to be good today so this will be
the last episode.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yep, it's going to end right here.
If you're new here, we releaseepisodes every Sunday, so sub
scoop.
Wow, that's a new one.
I never, I never.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
We haven't used that one, yet I always try for a new
one every week.
And if you're already aZomBestie, and especially if
you're using Apple Podcastsright now, I beg of you to give
us five stars and a sweet littlereview.
You can just say y'all are cute, or stop talking about
ZomBesties with benefits,whatever Just five stars.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, stop making us feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Stars help us grow.
All the other platforms aregreat, but I have recently
learned that most of ourlisteners listen to Apple
Podcasts, but it's where ourleast reviews are, so something
ain't adding up, no it's notadding up Nope.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Spotify is good too, but you can't leave reviews,
though.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, just the stars, which is fine, but I do think
you can leave comments now onSpotify.
You can.
We've had some fun commentsfrom listeners on there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I have not, I have not partaken.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, it doesn't notify us, which is annoying
Like we have to like go and likelook and see if anybody's made
a comment.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, We'll have to do that.
Yeah, we'll have to look atevery single one, every 107
episodes before this one.
We'll just go through and justmake sure we didn't miss any.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
If we did, you should email us.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, email us if you leave a comment.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
So this is our reintroduction episode.
Dan, Before we get into the AskUs Anything questions, I wanted
to share with you what I thinkwould be like our top line
dating headline.
Oh, okay, if we're in the oldendays where there was, like the
Craigslist, mail-seeking mail.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
What's going on Craigslist?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know.
We're dating Misconnections.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
We're shopping around .
Yes, for potential newZomBesties.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Swf seeking question mark.
Well, I guess it's ZBC seekingG-A-N-Z, which is zombie podcast
couple seeking group activitieswith new ZomBesties.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Group activities.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Who are we?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Dan?
Oh, you're asking.
Yeah, I'm Dan, I'm a disabledvet, I'm a he-him.
What's a vet?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Do you care over?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
animals.
Veteran A veteran I have notbeen to veterinarian school and
I probably won't ever go.
I'm an army vet, um, from along time past.
Uh, and also I'm writing a book, a zombie book, um, which was a
lot of the reason why westarted this podcast is, uh, one

(06:18):
day I will have to get on myhands and knees and beg people
to buy it, and, uh, what betterplace than to build your own
platform from which to kneeldown on and humble yourself in
front of thousands of people andsay, please, make me feel like
not so much of a failure.

(06:39):
So that's fun.
Yeah, um, my book is a zombiebook.
I might have mentioned that I'mcurrently writing it and, oh
man, I know sometimes I soundfunny.
My book is not going to befunny, unless, I don't know,
maybe you'll laugh the wholetime because you'll be like ha

(07:01):
that's happening right now.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh, the laughter of pain, pain, laughing.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, you'll laugh from schadenfreude.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And you're a truck driver by day.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I am.
I drive a big blue dump truck.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
So that's Dan in a nutshell.
Also, we live in Vermont, we'remarried.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
We are.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm Leah.
I use they them pronouns youcan use she, her if that's
easier, but I'm moving towardsthey them more lately because
I'm queer baby We'll start thereand I have a beard.
Who is my husband?
Because I'm not totallystraight.
I don't really know what I am.
I like people for their brainsactually, so I guess my

(07:42):
sexuality is zombie, zombiesexual Zombie sexual'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
my sexuality is zombie zombie sexual, sexual.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I love brains, it's true of your brain.
That's what gets me.
Yeah, I'm also an artist,particularly obsessed recently
with making a zombie art, zombiecrowns, which you can look up
on our Instagram If you want tocheck them out, and just
generally like an apocalypsenerd for as long as I've been

(08:09):
alive, I've always been likesomething's fucked up about this
world and I don't like it, andthe idea of an apocalypse always
felt like possibly a goodrestart.
Yeah, yeah, same, yeah, oh, wehave two dogs, ziggy and nero.
You'll hear them sometimes inthe podcast tippy tapping yeah,
nero, you'll hear his tippytapping.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
You'll hear his heavy breathing sometimes, and then
ziggy, sometimes you'll hear himjust go off the rails and
punish us with his voice.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, when he's mad.
Yeah, so when our book clubpodcast is not Nero barking.
What is Zombie Book Club about,dan?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So Zombie Book Club.
It's a weekly show about zombiebooks, mostly zombie books.
We like to talk to authors andhelp share some of our spotlight
with them.
Even if it's an incandescentcandle powered spotlight
sometimes, and other times Bigold beam, we like to share it

(09:00):
because that's the thing to do.
We also talk about movies.
I have a few times mentionedgames.
It is not a major focus.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
We did have james s cole here that's true game, yeah
survival infection, which is agreat game yeah, it has such
great illustrations.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I kind of forgot it was a game and I I have it
stored in my brain as like agraphic novel.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, he does also have a coloring book.
It's a whole experience.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I think that's what it is, because I see the
coloring book all the time.
It's in our living room.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, we also talk a lot about the real life
apocalypse that is happening inour world in various ways, times
and places.
Neither of us really think thatit's that great out there.
Yeah, it could be better.
Better, I guess, is what we'resaying.
And, uh, we do talk a lot abouthow we are relatively
privileged in our position yeah,it's true as two white folks
living in vermont.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
We live jobs.
We live in the country, out inthe woods.
Um, we have a really nicegarden thanks to leah, um and uh
, we got to pick them up truck,we got.
We got so many things that aregreat if you live in the in the
apocalypse yeah, we're verylucky.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
One of the things we've learned the last few years
is that sometimes theapocalypse is slow and boring
and feels like everyday life,because that's basically fascism
right now.
And that's why we like toexplore zombie stories,
specifically as a lens for thehard stuff, because it's at
least a different world.
So it allows you to suspend, umfor a minute, the cares and
worries about this world andimmerse yourself in one where

(10:28):
zombies will also eat you, butit's also still capitalist a lot
of the time.
Racism is out there, climatecollapse is occurring as we
speak.
We talk a lot about mediarepresentation and why it's
important to have folks from allwalks of life and backgrounds
be main characters.
Otherwise, uh, it gets kind ofboring and it's not

(10:49):
representative of the world, andso we kind of balance I don't
know a little bit of humor, alittle bit of seriousness.
You don't know what you'regoing to get with us, except for
you'll like it yeah, we've beendescribed as thoughtful yet
unhinged.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
yeah, those, those two things can work together, I
guess.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
We're also like a found family in a way, which is
one of the best zombie booktropes.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
In fact, today I was texting two of our Zombesties at
the same time separately Whoa,I know and I accidentally texted
one, not the other.
They instantly knew who I wastalking to, though, from my
accidental text, that'shilarious.
You know who you are if you'relistening to this.
So there really is like thiscommunity that has grown
organically from this podcastand that's all thanks to the

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people who have found us anddecided that they want to stick
around and be a part of this,and that's the best part.
And we want more ZombiCity todo group activities with.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Group activities yeah , and that's the best part.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
And we want more zombies to do group activities
with group activities yeah, umyeah, we want to talk with you
about like big stuff, but alsobe nerds and also make really
stupid jokes, specifically dickjokes.
Yeah, we got to fit one inevery episode, every episode
green man a newer it's on bestiethat we met actually at living
dead weekend has requested atleast seven.
We barteredtered, they had ahigher number and we landed on

(12:07):
seven.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
So you guys start checking, I think we can do it
taking them off um cock I'm amyalso.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Uh, one of our favorite things to scream about
is how annoying cis white malepower fantasies are in the
zombie genre and the apocalypsegenre in general.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I mean they got, they have their place right, but
it's kind of like, it's kind oflike fast food and we want those
like deeper stories yeah youcan have one of those but, like
for every one of those, I need12 of something else.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, well, you'll hear when you're listening to
our show is a lot of great bookclub conversations.
We always, always, let peopleknow what we're reading and you
can follow along.
You can send us notes aboutwhat you think about a book that
we're reading or a question youwant to ask an author.
We also do audio book pitchesfrom indie authors, so almost
every episode where it's justthe two of us, there will be
somebody talking about theirbook, which we'll have in a

(12:59):
minute.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, usually.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And Dan, what do you think about our absurd
competitions?
What should people know aboutthat?
Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, we had the Evil Magic Chicken Cluck
competition challenge thatlasted.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I feel like several years.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
When we were recording every two weeks, I was
starting to hear people'schicken cluck impressions in my
nightmares people's chickencluck impressions in my
nightmares.
Recently we did the apocalypticchopped challenge, which was
that was a fun time.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
We also have A lot of listener generated.
Same with the zombie chickenclucks.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
We also have our annual zombie ween.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yep people compete for the crown.
Think the crown I makespecifically the zombie crown.
Think a combination of likeRuPaul's Drag Race snatch game
with Family Feud maybe.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, a little bit of that.
Yeah, a little bit of HollywoodSquares.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, there's not really trivia.
It's more like you're bouncingaround a bouncy castle with your
kids and the zombie apocalypsebreaks out.
Yeah, how do you use the bouncycastle to survive?
It's ridiculous stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know it's like the dating game.
Yeah, it's the dating game, butzombie apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I actually was thinking as we were writing this
intro and like, having thedating theme of like, wouldn't
it be fun if we actually had adating game?
Yeah, if single zombie bestieswanted wanted to come on and
meet each other through our show.
If you want that, you want tohook up with another ZomBestie?
This?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
is the place?
A hot ZomBestie in your area?
A hot zombie nerd.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
yeah, there's many of us.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, I found my hot ZomBestie in my area.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, we were four hours away from each other, but
we're going to get into that,because one of the questions
we're going to answer today ishow did we meet?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, I forgot we were answering questions.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So why should people join the Zombestie crew Dan?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, I mean first of all, if you like, talking about
the zombie apocalypse.
You know, when we started thisthing, this is exactly what I
was looking for and it didn'ttotally exist, so we had to make
it Um.
But also, this is, this is aplace for people who have

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certain feelings about, uh,about social justice and want to
build community in that area,like we're.
We're trying, we're we'relooking at the inclusive sides
of the zombie apocalypse genrewhich we didn't know really
existed until we started thispodcast, because it's the.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
The stereotype is like zombie apocalypse genre is
the white male power fantasy.
It is super right wing, um, andwhat we've learned is that
that's not the case.
There's a whole community of usthat are really progressive.
Folks want to see justice inthe world where everyone can
thrive and live a good life and,oddly, are all attracted to the
zombie apocalypse.
So that's that's our communityin a nutshell.

(15:58):
Also very fun people.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You know when?
When we first started thisthing, I had no idea.
You know, when we first startedthis thing I had no idea, like
I thought that what I waswriting was absolutely going to
totally shake up the wholezombie apocalypse genre.
Because I'm like, all I'mseeing is cis, white, male,
conservative, heteronormative,power trip fantasies.

(16:24):
Is anyone even going to read mybook?
And then I realized that thereis a lot of people that are
looking for exactly this.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I remember you were asking that question, like
is there anything else out there, and so I started Googling it.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I found all kinds of amazing authors we've had on
the show, from all kinds ofdifferent backgrounds and points
of view.
That is way more interestingthan just one white military
dude perspective after another.
Again, those are great, but itshould be one of many.
It is time now for us to do ourvery first elevator pitch.
For anybody who is new, oh, wehave an author pitch and then

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we're going to get into our AskUs Anything questions.
So hopefully we've convincedyou to come hang out with us.
I hope so, besties, be a partof the group yeah, otherwise you
know what are you still doinghere?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
yeah, are you still here?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
hello.
So if you're new around here,you're gonna know something a
little bit different.
We don't have all the time inthe world to be reading books
because, sadly, we havefull-time jobs.
Yeah, although I happen tohappen to like my job, dan likes
his less, but at the end of theday, like if I was a trillion
billionaire, I would probablynot be doing that job.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I solidly hate my job .

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, dan hates his, so we can't read as fast as some
people and we also justrealistically can't interview
everybody.
So what we do is we do theseauthor elevator book pitches,
where we ask folks, as the firstthing that they send with us,
if they're introducingthemselves to us like if you're
a zombie book writer right nowand you're like, how do I get on
this podcast, the first thingyou do is send us a short audio
pitch that we share on the show,up to three minutes, and it's

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really a way to introduce yourstory and share it with our
audience.
And a lot of people love theaudio pitches because they're a
cute, fun thing.
You get featured on ourInstagram that week and, um,
it's just a good time learningabout a lot of people I would
never know about if it wasn'tfor the audio pitch.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, um, yeah.
So if you're listening andyou've written a zombie novel
and you're wondering how do Iget my novel to people, you can
just send us a pitch and we'llplay it.
And I think it's actually areally great way, because it's
just a really short littlesnippet up to three minutes and
that's your opportunity to tellpeople that your book exists and

(18:38):
I think people like it.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, and your undead might be exactly the new kind
of undead our audience needs,because, as we've learned, the
undead are just as diverse ashumans in origin speed ability.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Some of them are chickens.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's true.
And not in the metaphoricalsense, definitely zombie cocks.
I mean, there were a lot ofthose in 28 Years Later.
Yeah, spoiler.
A lot of those in 28 yearslater.
Yeah, spoiler, if you haven'tseen it yet.
The big swinging dicks of 28years later will go down in
history.
Our pitch for today is from robulitsky for a book called dead
awake collapse.

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It's part of a series.
Rob is a uk-based horror writeruh, and they have a background
in film directing, producing.
He started his writing journeyin 2020.
Was it the pandemic rob?
We need to know.
And when he's not craftingnightmares, he's watching 90s
movies.
I hope they're 90s thrillers.
Those are my favorite Bakingcakes Interesting, I want a cake
.
I want cake, but it's probablyreally stale and or rotting but

(19:36):
I'm going to have cake later orhaunting local bookstores.
So let's hear about Rob's book,dead Awake.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, let's hear it, I'm going to hit the elevator
button.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yes, which floor are we going to go to now?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think it's fitting for this episode to go to floor
108.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Okay, sounds good.
It's a tall building Ding.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Ding In my new book series, dead Awake.
The bite infects you, but sleepseals your fate.
Let me introduce you toEgglemore, a coastal UK city
turned on its head by a newsleeping drug, noxidone.
Noxidone was meant to be amiracle drug to help shorten the
sleep cycle and unlock morehours in the day, but something
went very wrong.
Those who have taken Noxidoneare trapped in a violent
hallucinatory state, attackingother residents in increasingly

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brutal ways.
Worse yet, the infection istransmitted through bodily
fluids activating when victimsfall asleep.
Trapped in the midst of thischaos are a journalist on a
last-ditch effort to save hercareer, a survivalist mother
trying to protect her ailingdaughter and an introverted
shut-in faced with the worldoutside his window.
The barricades are going up,escape less likely with every

(20:41):
passing minute.
When it takes just one mistaketo become infected, how many
second chances can you afford?
The first entry in the DeadAwake series, dead Awake
Collapse, offers a twist on thetraditional zombie outbreak,
with action-packed set pieces,fast infected and flawed
characters doing whatever ittakes to stay alive and awake.
Dead Awake Collapse is book onein a six book series releasing

(21:03):
monthly, with the next onescheduled for July 25th,
available for 99p or 99 cents,and the whole series will also
be on Kindle Unlimited.
If you come into contact withthe infected, do not go to sleep
.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's horrifying.
I think that that is the mostrealistic zombie outbreak origin
I've ever heard, because if allI did was go to work and then
they cut off my sleep hours andI had to go to work without
getting enough sleep, I wouldbecome a zombie and I would
become violent and I would juststart mauling people, I think.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, well, in this case, it's a drug you're taking
to not sleep, which, by the way,that is such a like dystopic.
Is this dystopic a word?
I'm?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
making it one.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
A dystopic reality, or like reflection of our
reality right now, becausecapitalism is like be productive
, never rest.
Rest is for losers, basically.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Obey your corporate masters.
Don't sleep too much.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Work as much as possible to make that money and
I can see people taking thisdrug.
But I got to tell you I lovesleeping.
I would never take this drug.
Sleep is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
It also feels like a super realistic, like dystopic,
but it feels like something thatwould actually happen.
It's like everyone's like yeah,you know, I just got to get
more hours in.
Actually happen is likeeveryone's like yeah, you know,
I just gotta get more hours in.
Like you know, I go home and Isleep like five hours and I
could be spending that fivehours at work, yeah, or doing

(22:34):
other things.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, it would become like on our instagram ads.
All of a sudden be like do youwish you could sleep less?
Do you wish there were morehours in the day?
Well, let us tell you.
But what's really scary to meis that, like, if you're
infected, you just have to stayawake to not become a zombie.
So, like, how long can youforce yourself?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
oh, so you become a zombie when you fall asleep?
Yeah, oh, this is.
This is like.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
These are ambient zombies well, ambient, has been
jumped up some weird sideeffects it's true.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you know, like I said, this sounds very
plausible yeah, it is an awesomeconcept.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I can't wait to read it Now.
Apparently, there's two booksout as of the release of this
episode on August 10th, so gocheck it out.
And, rob, thank you so much forsending your pitch.
I would like you to add amusical intro here.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Ask us anything.
That's what the musical was for.
Yeah, oh, I just thought I wasdoing it for fun.
No, all right, that's.
That's what we're doing now, sowe got a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
We're going to get through as many as we can today.
If we have more, we'll do afuture ask us anything episode
and get to those in the next one.
Yeah, but we wanted to startwith some basics for the folks
who maybe don't know us or haveknown us for a while but don't
know some of our origin stories,like Lori Calcaterra, author
and creator of Path of the PaleRider, asks a really simple but
important one how did we meetDan?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean this could be a very long question
which we found out when JoeSalazar asked us the same exact
question, and then we sat therefor four hours telling them
everything about ourselves.
That was you.
Yes, I listened.
That's what happens to me, butthe short version is we met on
the internet when we were kidsBefore it was cool.

(24:20):
Yeah, In fact it was very uncoolback then, Like you had to kind
of keep it a secret that youhad friends on the Internet
because they'd be like you're afucking loser.
And now I got an ICQ flowertattooed on my arm.
So who's the loser now?
Possibly steal us.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I know some people that hate matching tattoos, but
like it's something we've wantedfor a really long time yeah,
nobody ever knows what this isno, and it's, it's.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Uh, the reality is, even if you and I weren't
together, icq changed our livesyeah, icq was an instant
messaging um uh program becausewe didn't call them apps back
then.
Uh, around the time of, likeaol Messenger, dial-up internet,
I think Yahoo Instant Messengerwas a very new thing.

(25:08):
Yahoo Instant Messenger was theFacebook to our.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
MySpace.
I didn't have access to thosethings as a Canadian.
There was no AOL InstantMessenger for us.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
America Online.
If I went with everybody elsewho was getting on AOL, we would
have never talked.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That is so sad.
Yeah, I don't like that.
I don't want to even think ofthat.
Alternate reality is notallowed to exist.
So, lori, basically we wereteenagers, we were lonely
because we were weirdosUnsurprising now that we have
Zoanibook Club podcast.
We were weirdos, weirdo teens,rural towns, yeah, where we were
not like one of these things isnot like the other, and it was
us, yeah.

(25:45):
So we started talking onlineand then we fell in love and
then there was a lot of yearsbefore we actually got together.
We got together twice.
One time I fucked it up, butalso we were both stupid at that
age.
I was like 25, 26 and then wegot together again when I was 35
and you were 36, so a decadelater, yeah, pretty much or

(26:07):
maybe a little less than any.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I think it was eight years, like it might have been
closer to nine years yeah, we'vebeen together ever since.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, 2019, officially.
Uh, this is a great follow-upquestion from rebecca
cuthbertson.
Offer of offer.
Author.
Author of waves of undead.
Were you both zombie fansbefore you met, or did one of
you lead the other down the path?
Well, rebecca, never on mybucket list was to make a crown

(26:36):
made out of body parts.
Uh, before dan, in my life,yeah, and I casually enjoyed
zombies, like I loved thewalking dead.
Um, I had read world war z, butthat was, and I'd watched 28
days later.
I loved all of that, but Iwasn't like it wasn't so much of
my identity.
Now, yeah, now I'm starting tobecome known as the zombie

(26:58):
person in my family and friendlife.
So, yeah, yeah um.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
For me it was like around the time that I was in
Afghanistan in 2005 that Istarted having zombie apocalypse
dreams Very, very stressfuldreams.
But it's weird because asstressful and horrifying as it
was, I would wake up and be likeI want to go back, which maybe

(27:22):
there's something there that atherapist could get out of me if
we talked about that enough.
But I became obsessed over theyears and it just became this
thing where I couldn't getenough and I really love the
Walking Dead because before thenyou had like a couple movies

(27:43):
that would come out every coupleof years and a lot of times
they were awful and they did notsatisfy the urge.
And I started reading zombienovels Because I discovered one
at a safe house in Afghanistan,right in Kabul.
There was just this book rackthat was collapsed because of

(28:04):
the weight of all the books onit just made it collapse and
there was just books all overthe floor and there was this
book called Zombies and thezombie was spelled with an X and
I read that and it wasstressful because their zombies
were reanimated on a cellularlevel.
You couldn't kill them.

(28:25):
If you ground it up into groundmeat, the ground meat would try
to come after you.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Unsuccessfully, but it would like pulsate towards
you, ew, but like, as you couldimagine, they were very
difficult to deal with and theywere everywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So your first exposure to zombies was not old
Romero films.
No, it was it was it was.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I saw Dawn of the Dead when I was a kid, loved it
because I was a little gunpsycho.
When I was a kid I loved everygun.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Dan also loved to play with dead rabbit heads in
his off-grid cabin under the ageof five.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, I played with rabbit heads.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
want.
Don't judge me.
We all play with dead rabbitheads.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So your first exposure was dawn of the dead,
do you think?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah and um, I saw a night of the living dead when I
was in the army.
Um, I did not watch them inorder.
I started with the dawn of thedead and uh and yeah, like over
over the over the years, I'dseen them, but it wasn't until
like afghanistan that I was justlike I need, I need this.
It's like a drug just pump itinto my, into my veins.
I need, I need more stories.

(29:35):
I needed stories that werebeing told that I felt like I
could relate to, like there's alot of really campy stories that
I'm just like this is toofucking stupid for me to enjoy.
And then, like the walking deadcomes along and it's like
gritty and realistic and it's along form story.
You're seeing like a group ofpeople surviving and that like
actually surviving in theapocalypse.

(29:56):
And that's when I was just like, oh, thank god, it's like every
, it's like a zombie.
A new zombie movie is comingout every week.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I would wait for it every week, like like, oh
my God, once again, and theintro was so scary.
Yeah, now I'm desensitized,yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
When the doorknob starts turning.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, my first exposure to zombies was probably
and I don't even think I knewit was zombies.
But now, with my aficionadolevels to I don't know, do I get
to call myself, yeah, a zombieaficionado at this point?
You've seen 108.
I have not every single one.
I haven't, but I feel like Iknow a lot.
Okay, you know, I'm not, I'mnot aficionado, but I'm like I'm
.
I'm in grade 10, you're like anintermediate level yeah, but

(30:37):
anyways, uh, evil dead wouldhave been my first exposure
without calling it zombies, andwe still need to do an episode
on evil Dead.
I was obsessed with that movieas a kid and then it really
wasn't, until I read World War Zand then Walking Dead came out
and I remember the first timearound we were dating in 2010
that you had the Walking Deadcomics and I was like what the

(30:58):
fuck is this?
But also I was very judgy ofcomics at that time and honestly
, just had like really been uhbrainwashed into thinking that
like some things are cool andsome things aren't, and that's
stupid.
It's like whatever you like andenjoy, but I was very
narrow-minded back then, if youcan believe it, folks I mean,
that's, that's what happens whenyou're, when you're young, is
you?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
you believe a lot of things until a certain point,
like, uh, I feel like a lot ofyoung people have like
preconceived notions of likeadulthood and they just like fit
into a norm that they think isadulthood.
It's not until, like, you getto like your third, your late
30s, where, like that was allbullshit, I should have been
enjoying my life.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's true, just live it.
Uh, joe salazar, author of thedead weight, wants to know what
is your favorite episode, andwhy, of the walking dead?
No, of our book club oh, that'sa hard one.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
It is very hard.
Yeah, um, you know the, the um,the living dead weekend episode
I really enjoyed because, likeit brought beds back so many.
It was so many memories.
But also, um, you know thearound those episodes in that
range like celebrating 100episodes and Living Dead Weekend

(32:13):
, it was mostly just peopletelling us how great we were.
And, yeah, I mean you dosomething for so long, thinking
that you're kind of justspeaking into the ether for a
while, like you have to be yourbiggest fan for a long time when
you're doing something likethis.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
You just have to pretend that people are
listening.
And when you start to realizethat people are listening and
then they start talking back toyou, it's a very good feeling.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It is, and that's sort of what makes it worth it
to me, which I would say we'vehad a really good audience
almost since the beginning.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then finally, apparently, I asked why you were
listening to us and peoplestarted answering, which was
funny.
My favorite episode.
I think if I was going to dolike an, I would go with like an
old school option and then anew school.
So old school, meaning before ahundred episodes, would
probably be an early one.
The Amazon a hundred dollarchallenge I like that.
That was a favorite, justbecause I got to shock Dan.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, challenge, that was a favorite just because I
got to shock Dan with my answersof how I spent a hundred
dollars to survive.
Yeah, I was being very seriousand Leah was being very not
serious.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Do you think Nero's fart was just picked up on our
audio?
I hope so.
Well, now you know it wasn't us, which is mostly why I brought
it up in case it does.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm always proud of him when he does that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm glad that you're proud.
Would you be proud of me if Ifarted?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, when Nero does it , it's special.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh, Dan, actually nobody asks us this, but one of
Dan's favorite things is towatch Nero poop.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, it's very satisfying for you.
It brings a lot of joy to me itmust be because you have a
prostate.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I wonder if male dogs have prostates.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, they have to, but they also have tails too.
But you know, I just see himout there.
He points his tail straight asan arrow, he hunches over.
It looks like he's putting alot of work into it and then he
gets the reward of pooping.
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's just a wonderful thing to witness yeah, uh, the
other new schooler ish, I guessit was before.
100 episodes would be the onesaround resisting tyranny those
also were very good um, ofcourse I forget what number
those are yeah, they wererelatively recent yeah, well,
probably in the 90s.
Yeah, brian from zompocalypsewants to know what was your

(34:30):
imaginary friend.
Did you have an imaginaryfriend, dan?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I tried to have an imaginary friend.
We briefly mentioned that whenI was a kid, I lived in an
off-grid cabin, and I mean likereally off-grid, not like we
didn't have like lights orwhatever.
Like we lived in a cabin threemiles in the woods on a logging
trail.
We didn't have electricity, wedidn't have running water.

(34:54):
We had an outhouse.
All all of our baths were cold,cold water from a, from a hand
pump.
Um, what was I being askedagain?
Oh, imaginary friend.
Yeah, I tried to have animaginary friend named johnny,
because I thought johnny was areally cool name and I wanted to
be named Johnny.
And my parents told me that Icouldn't change my name to
Johnny.

(35:14):
So I'm like well then I'll justmake an imaginary friend
because I'm so lonely out here.
And yeah, try as I might.
I'm like Johnny, things aren'tworking out because you're
invisible and you don't talk tome.
So I broke up with my imaginaryfriend.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
That was never there in the first place.
He wasn't a good friend.
I love how you thought Johnnywas like the coolest name ever.
I know, yeah, what a moment inour time.
Like Johnny Depp.
Yeah, I did not have animaginary friend.
What I did have was an adulttelling me that if I didn't fall

(35:50):
asleep fast enough, that themugwumps would come get me and I
would live in fear of that andI would hear like the thumping
of my heart in my own earsbecause I'd have like nighttime
anxiety and I was convinced thatit was the mugwumps coming down
the hall to eat me.
So those are my imaginaryfriends?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I'm sure that didn't cause any long-term trauma maybe
there's a reason why I stillwake up in the middle of the
night feeling anxious for a longtime, also because I read a lot
of vampire stuff.
I I could not sleep unless theblanket was like right up under
my chin so that my neck was notavailable yeah, because that's
what happens.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Is the vampires?
If they can see your neck, theybite just like.
Just like any other number ofcreatures that might be living
in your bedroom If your toes areshowing under the blankets or
if your foot goes off the sideof the bed Also very risky.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Do not do that.
That's when they get you.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
They can't get you any other way because blankets
are magic, I guess.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, they're at least like one step of a barrier
, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I never got to the point where I put garlic in my
window as a kid, but I wasreading a lot of Anne Rice way
too early, so I was very afraidof vampires.
Lori Calcaterra also wants toknow who is better at cooking.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, speaking of garlic or Dan.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm going to just I think you were trying to ask us
this one to make it a fight,possibly to tear apart our
marriage story I will happilysay Dan's a better cook, because
that means I don't have to doit as often, but frankly, out of
our little commune, Simon isthe best cook.
Yeah, that's true.
And for those of you who arenew, Simon is Dan's brother and
he lives in our zombie communewith us.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, when I go on social media, all I see is
horrible current events that aregoing on.
When Simon logs into socialmedia, all Simon sees is recipes
for new ways to make tofudelicious.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, he's also always telling me about ways I
could make things from scratch,and I just look at him like do
you think I have time for that?
You don't either, simon.
I know that's the dream, simon.
We're not making our own yogurt.
Although he does, he doesn'tmake his own yogurt, it is
excellent um.
Another, possibly marriage.
Ending question from lauriewhich person would the dogs
choose between us?
Oh, they'd choose you.

(37:59):
Are you okay with that?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I, I mean, I get it, you're.
You're here more often and likeduring the summertime, nero and
Ziggy, when they see me, I'mjust like covered in asphalt and
I'm like incapable ofcommunication and I just like I
eat and then I fall asleep.
Their experience with me is notgreat.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
They love you so much though.
Yeah, I think it's just that.
So my dogs are inherited frommy first marriage.
My dogs are inherited from myfirst marriage and, uh, dan is a
way better daddy than my ex um,who would never have called
herself a daddy, but in my headit was funny to think of them
that way for a minute anyways,um, but uh, our household is

(38:42):
much more calm than my lastmarriage, so I know that they
love you because they don't havethe stress of yelling uh in our
home because of you.
So they might listen to me.
I definitely have moreauthority, yeah, but they
definitely choose to put theirbutt on you before they choose
to put their butt on me.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And that's how you know.
If your dog puts their butt onyou, that is the highest
compliment they can give.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
And nobody else does this.
But if we had our dogs and itwas the apocalypse, we would not
survive.
They fucking love to bark.
Yeah, if we had our dogs and itwas the apocalypse, we would
not survive.
They fucking love to bark.
Yeah, they bark all the time.
Oh, so much.
I need intervention.
If any of you is a dog trainer,but like a nice one, not the
one, I don't want any punishmentones.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Like we went to one who didn't have the best advice.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, and it's kind of scarred, nero a little bit.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So do you need your dog to behave?
Have you?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
tried beating him.
God, no, not our style.
Another question from JoeSalazar.
She asks what are some otherpodcasts you like to listen to
or are inspired by?
Oh, I'm going to go with somenon zombie ones.
First, I got to give shout outsto our zombie podcast friends
because they're all excellent.
We've talked about them a loton the show.
We've got Listeners of the Deadwith Stephanie Really one of

(39:52):
the most well-read, well-versedzombie people Very polarizing
episode about 28 years laterrecently and feelings about it.
We have Brian from ZompocalypseVery fun survival, zombie
survival show.
And then we have the UndeadSymphony with Darren and michael
, and they have probably watchedmore zombie movies and talked

(40:14):
with them than any other podcast, so, if you want, I think
they've watched every single oneyeah, if you want zombie wrecks
, I would go there.
But what I want to talk aboutreally is telepathy tapes.
I'm obsessed.
Um, basically, you know what Ifeel like if I tell people about
it, they'll be like I'm notlistening to that.
Yeah, that sounds insane.
It does sound insane, but youshould listen to it.
If you I'll put it this way ifyou are a highly skeptical

(40:38):
person of telepathic abilities,listen to it.
If you've had some experiences,like I have, that are not
explainable by the materialistworldview of science that
currently exists, and you wantto see what kind of research is
being done on telepathy, golisten.
It's blown my mind.
I'm obsessed with it.
I also love how to Survive theEnd of the World, which is

(40:59):
literally that.
It's actually about ourreal-time apocalypse.
I don't think I've heard aboutthat one.
Oh, it's so good.
Yeah, we haven't talked aboutit before.
Most recently, we've becomefriends with the Wicked Words
Book Club folks and they alsohad a really great 28 years
later bonus episode and talkedabout Jurassic Park lately.
That was fun.
What about you, dan?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
A lot of my podcasts are really Doom-focused, shocker
, informing me of all thehorrible, horrible things that
are happening.
Informing me of all thehorrible, horrible things that
are happening.
And then, when I crash out, Ineed something irreverent and I
usually go to Smosh Reads,reddit Stories and, most

(41:42):
recently, two Hot Takes.
Same premise for both of them.
They read Reddit Stories andrespond to them and they are
fucking wild.
Some some of the stories thatare on reddit are are crazy.
They make me feel better aboutmy own life you know what?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
that's why I watch reality tv.
Yeah, it's like it's judgmentfree judging zone.
I don't go online and judgethese people.
I do watch the tiktoks of otherpeople judging people on
reality tv shows, but I don't doit myself.
Uh, I feel like smosh readsreddits is also like that a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I I'm actually really surprised.
When I first started listening,I was really surprised at how
much like genuinely good advicecomes out of it, because they're
very well balanced individualsand they know how to um deal
with conflict and uh, and how tohave healthy relationships with

(42:35):
people.
So a lot of times the storiesthat you read on reddit are just
like yeah, so, uh, I'm notcommunicating with my wife and I
think she's a bitch, am I theasshole?
And they're like, yeah, youshould communicate with your
wife.
And they're like, yeah, you'rethe asshole, because you're not
communicating, you shouldprobably get a divorce and you
should probably never, uh, dateagain have you applied any any

(42:59):
uh advice in our marriage umsmall streets reddits?
you know, I I haven't needed touh find a way to mitigate a
situation where we are going toour wedding day and your sibling
wears white, a white weddingdress to our wedding while I'm

(43:25):
wearing the same white weddingdress.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Exactly the same white wedding dress.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
And then your sister gets mad at me and says that
it's because I can't tell thatit's actually sage and not white
.
Wow, but it's clearly white.
Them's fighting choicesclothing.
So that exact scenario hasn'tcome up yet, but when it does,
I'll be prepared.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, we'll be ready for it, because that will
definitely happen in our future,even though we're already
married and we eloped, it's truewe haven't had the ceremony yet
which we promised back in 2020that we would eventually.
No, okay, we've got some reallyfun zombie apocalypse
would-you-rathers.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
This one is from Zelinda morrison.
In fact they gave us a couplethat are very funny.
You go on a supply, run pastmobs of zombies, dan.
Who would you prefer to have asyour colleague?
A clumsy, clueless build-a-bearemployee or a skillful and
competent war veteran who haschronic bad flatulence?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
oh yeah, I don't know .
I'm gonna pick flatulence.
Oh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm going to pick flatulence, because just because
you fart a lot doesn't mean itsmells all the time.
It's true, nero farts a lot andhis mostly don't smell.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, they are basically describing Nero.
I guess it depends on hisattitude towards his bad
flatulence.
You know, sometimes there'slike gross dudes that are just
like they'll like lift their legand make a big show out of it
oh, or like, try and like, comereally close to you and then be
like pull my finger, yeah, andthen they fart on your leg yeah,

(45:00):
no, that would be like I'd picka bit like yeah, then, then I'd
be like I'm I'm just gonna goout and die, yeah there's also
perks of the clumbly, clumbly,clumsy, cless Build-A-Bear
employee, because they'll justdie first.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
They could be a good diversion.
What I?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
think is more important.
But I guess, between the choiceof somebody who's really
terrible in a situation andsomebody who is really good in a

(45:35):
situation but might be a grossdude, I'll go with the gross
dude, I guess he can't help it.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Maybe he's vegan like us and he eats a lot of beans.
That could be I mean, I wouldbe just as flatulent probably.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I want to know his backstory.
Let us know more.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yes, linda tell could be.
I mean, I will be just asflatulent, probably.
I want to know his backstory.
Let us know more.
Yes, linda, tell us who is thisperson.
Yeah, we've got a much uh, aninteresting one that I think we
could take another time in moredepth from sylvester barzy, a
prolific author and zom bestie.
Author of planet dead, which isa whole series.
Author of um young bloods,young blood not blood.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
There's no plural.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I you know I do that every time yeah, author of dead
soil, author of camp lanier, andthey were an award-winning book
that they recently got an awardfrom um very cool dude.
Oh yeah, zombie ween king.
How could I forget so?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Winner of 2024 of the accolades yes, uh, but they
asked us a very fun question.
For people like us, maybe notfor others how do you picture
the world ending?
And if you were to take over anentire city, how would you do
it?
For educational purposes, ofcourse oh boy let's start with
how would you picture the worldending?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
the way it currently is the, the, uh, the, the top
gear, full throttle action thatwe're doing with multiple venues
at the same time to reachmaximum apocalypse, both by just
rampant disease outbreaks,climate disaster, social

(47:05):
breakdown, economic collapse,economic collapse, nuclear
threat, uh, I mean, the listgoes on.
I mean we've half of half of mytesticles are plastic, it's
true, you know, like if youdidn't know that?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
study folks there's microplastics in every man's
testicles, yeah, and also in ourbrain.
Apparently it's like a teaspoonof microplastics in our brain.
Sounds like more than you want.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So, yeah, that's how I picture the world ending.
I like thinking about thezombie apocalypse because I feel
like it's the betteralternative to what we're
already doing.
The zombie apocalypse happens,wipes out all the humans.
Nature can reclaim and fix allthe bullshit that we broke, and
then, uh, and then everythinggoes back to normal.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Return to normalcy yeah, I mean, the end is always
a new beginning, which isactually what I'm most
interested in with theapocalypse is the opportunity
for the new um.
But I don't think I disagreewith your your view on how it's
gonna end.
I think the most annoying partis just how boring it is and how
slow it is.
I think that's the other partof the zombie apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
It's often very fast.
It's just such a lameapocalypse.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, like fascism, like we're dealing with in the
United States right now.
Also looks like us going forbreakfast every Saturday still,
which is great.
I don't want to lose theHeartland Diner't.
I want to be clear.
I don't actually want a zombieapocalypse, but it would be nice
if we had the opportunity toreally dig down and shift some
systems without so much justlike heinous destruction and

(48:38):
pain of people and, um, I guesszombies would still be heinous
destruction and pain yeah, but adifferent kind.
So how are we taking over anentire city, that's the one
where I'm like, oh, this wouldbe a great episode.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I'm assuming that this is a zombie apocalypse
we're talking about Sure, okay,boy, I don't know if I'd want to
.
I mean, it'd have to be apretty small city.
I don't want a whole big city.
So that's why you didn't ask ifyou wanted it.
I just have to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, you've got to do it.
I'm being tasked Because thisis an educational opportunity.
Also, this podcast is veryeducational.
Yeah, so for the people howmight they take over a city?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I'm going to do it with heavy equipment, very large
bulldozers.
I'm going to basically up-armorthem, make a fleet of
killdozers which are a bulldozer, where you weld really thick
steel plates on it so thatthey're bulletproof, and then
you just ram all the cars out ofthe road and you run over

(49:39):
anything that looks like anykind of opposition.
You make a lot of noise, youhit the air horns a lot and you
bring all the zombies out intothe street and you just flatten
them Behind the killdozer.
You just, you just drag tankersof fuel and you just, you just
keep going night and day untilyou've wiped everything off of

(50:00):
the streets.
And then then you set up.
You set up your, yourheadquarters and the most secure
building at the center, and youuse the remaining zombies that
are inside the buildings tobasically be your barricade
against the living have youthought about this?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
yeah I can't say what book I'm reading right now
because it would be a spoiler,but I got to read a sneak
preview of a book and there'sthere's a backstory on how a
city was taken over and it'simpressive.
Oh yeah, that's all I can say.
I don't have a better idea thanyou.
I think my way of taking over acity would be more soft power.
So soft power story to get.

(50:38):
Well, whatever Hot zombie nerdshere Thinking about Foucault
right now and the idea of hardpower meaning like violence,
physical enforcement, and softpower meaning influence.
Yeah, you're a hard power guy,I'm a soft power guy and, um,
that would mean like, uh, usingmy diplomatic skills, my
conflict resolution abilities,I'm taking a conflict

(51:00):
transformation course right now.
It's actually quite interesting.
I would use all of myhard-earned social skills and
the ability to buildrelationships and trust with
people to slowly work my way tothe top until I became a
dictator Perfect.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, yeah, if you need a few kill dozers.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, we're actually a perfect team.
I can be the charismatic leader.
Yeah, oh, actually you're apretty charismatic leader too.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I can be the charismatic leader of the kill
dozer squad.
But what I really need is apuppet, puppet though, because I
don't actually want to be thecharismatic leader.
I think that there's people whoare better suited than that.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh, so you need to prop me up as the strong man?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
yes, and I'm behind the scenes, pulling the strings
and making decisions so I I likejump out of my killdozer with
my machine gun and I shoot inthe air and I'm like, yeah, I'm
the president of this bitch.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
And then yeah, I'm like um the people who wrote
Project 2025 from the HeritageFoundation.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's who I am.
I'm like the architect behindthe scenes.
I'm Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, that would be my attempt.
Perfect, I love this.
Yeah, although I wouldobviously not write Project 2025
.
To be clear for new listenersnot a fan, I mean we need a new
year first of all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Why don't we have our own project 2025?
Where the fuck is our unifiedvision?
I heard of something like that,but I don't know the details.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I think it was mostly just hot air.
Ah, interesting.
Uh, let's go into a lighter, uhsort of hypothetical question
again from zalinda morrison doyou think zombies pick their
noses, or does that requirehigher brain function, dan?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I can tell you that some zombies pick their noses
and there's evidence to supportmy theory.
Um, if you watch fall fall out,you'll notice that the ghouls
have picked their noses clearoff their face.
If you see a zombie with a nose, that is not a nose picking
zombie, but if you see one witha gaping hole in the middle of
their face, that is a nosezombie.

(52:48):
Okay, so it depends on the typeof zombie the middle of their
face.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
That is a nose-picking zombie.
Okay, so it depends on the typeof zombie, the species of
zombie, that's fair.
So, linda morrison, actuallyour next author pitch is going
to be from them.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Oh, they wrote a book called harsh light, so that
sounds like in our next casualdead episode that sounds like
what happens every time the suncomes up for me.
Yeah, and I don't have mysunglasses on.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, you have some eye sensitivity from being out
in the desert for so long.
Yeah, I think I'd also beremiss to say we didn't mention
this earlier.
We kind of divide our episodesup between the ones where we're
interviewing folks and thencasual deads.
This is technically a casualdead because it's just Dan and I
chatting with each other.
I'm basically in my underwear.
It's not hot as in.

(53:30):
I'm basically in my underwear.
It's not hot as in.
I'm not hot right now.
I'm hot, we have airconditioning and I'm a mess, but
it's just chill.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I'm burning up.
Are you really?
I'm a thousand degrees overhere.
Well, you are a hottie.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
So we got a couple of questions that indicated that
some people really hope thatthey are our most, our best Zom
bestie and I'm not sure howwe're going to answer them, but
from an anonymous person don'tknow who it is.
They asked why is Ollie EatsBrains our favorite guest?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
That's an interesting question, and I think that
Ollie Eats Brains is ourfavorite guest.
Well, I think it's justsomething we've always believed
to be true.
We probably heard it somewherefirst, and then you hear
something.
Enough times, it becomes true.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's how it works.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's science?
Yeah, oh, you mean, we heardthat Ollie is our favorite guest
.
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
We heard it.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I have an answer for this.
Ollie is my favorite guestbecause they're kind of in my
brain brain an informal co-hostand less of a guest.
They have helped us with someepisodes.
They interviewed you about yourbook last year, which was
pretty great.
They were here for our end ofthe year recap episode and
really what's been keeping Olliefrom hanging out on the show
more is time and time zones.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Although they live a little, at least one, they only
live one hour behind us now,instead of three.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Ollie has solved some of the time zone problem.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Some of it.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, but the work schedules not conflicting.
But Ollie is also our favoritemovie night, movie party night
on Discord.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, very good, definitely.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Ollie also has an incredible uh spreadsheet it's
intimidating yeah it made merealize I could only read zombie
books and never get done.
Naela king, one of ourzombesties, who is also, uh,
somebody who dan writes withevery week at naela king's
carnival yeah, the, the ghost,the ghost, ghost, carnival.
Ghost carnival yeah, shedecided to get fucking messy

(55:31):
Naila and wants to know who isour favorite zombie-ween game
show winner Sylvester Barzee,zombie king of 2024, or Lori
Calcaterra, zombie queen of 2023.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I have an answer for this.
Okay, the next one, oh.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Which actually could be one of them.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It could be.
It could be either one, becausethey're coming back.
Yeah, it could be somebody else.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, I don't pick favorites.
That's my answer, except forOllie.
Ollie, you're my favorite.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, but you're not a zombie.
Winged kinder queen, because weheard it somewhere before.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, we were told, and then we got a question also
from an anonymous person.
Why is Zompocalypse Podcastyour favorite podcast?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I think I got targeted ads about this and yeah
, so it's just been showing upon my feed and it's just like
Zompocalypse Podcast is yourfavorite podcast, I'm like, well
, it must be true then.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Well, it is very fun.
Brian is great, he's silly,he's got a great logo and he's
got really cute kids thatsometimes come on the podcast,
which is fun.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
He did an episode about bluey yeah, uh, brian is
like super dad.
Yes, also a welder yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
But overall I would say don't make us pick favorites
.
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
if we have favorites, we'll never tell yeah, it's
true, we'll only give you snarkyanswers yeah, another person
asked us when is the moviecoming out?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
what movie?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
wait what?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
28 years later, the sequel, which movie?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I don't know, I gotta assume that, uh, what they're
talking about is the evil magicchicken zombie movie, oh, of
which I've made an audio trailerfor I don't know, I have no
plans for that, because moviescost money or time and effort,

(57:27):
and I have none of those thingsor time and effort and I have
none of those things.
You know, I feel like if thiswas me back in 2013 or 2014, I
would have been like this is mylife mission, to make this movie
.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
You know, maybe we should do.
I want to actually hear fromfolks.
Would you help us with like amicro Kickstarter of sorts where
we could pay Dan's brother,who's a professional animator,
to animate the Evil MagicChicken Zombie trailer?
I mean if it's animation.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Micro isn't going to do it.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Well, just for the trailer, not the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
That trailer would probably take like.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
You think for 500 bucks he wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
It'd be like 500 hours of work.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
You think so?
Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
Yeah, simon would slap me.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Just ask simon, okay, I mean just for the trailer
you've got 24 frames in a second, so that's 24 images you need
to create per second of footagethat you're trying to I'm
thinking more simplified thoughI'm, I'm not thinking like
really detailed.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I feel like if we could raise 500 bucks he might
do like a bare-bones version andit would still be funny.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yeah, like one frame every four seconds.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, I mean that feels appropriate for that movie
trailer.
And if you have not listened toor heard the Evil Magic Chicken
Zombie zombie trailer, you canlisten to the very end of
episode 100 where dan releasedit.
And special shout out to ourfriend eric, who is the voice of
many people in that trailer.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, I'm also the voice of a few people in that
trailer and leah is the voice ofone person in that trailer
because there's only one rolefor a person with a uterus.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
That's right on that.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, that's how we made it.
There can only be one.
Yeah, we wanted to be true tothe genre this is a good
follow-up to the movie question.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
When are you going to be a video podcast?
Never, sorry y'all.
Yeah, I got dan to compromiseand say he would make more reels
with his face.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah um, I'm okay with that.
It, you know it's a, it's a lotof, it's a lot of work to make
a podcast, especially whenyou're working 60 hours a week
yeah, you know, 55 to 65,typically, I've never really
been a fan of just adding videoto something because people are

(59:45):
like you'll get more subscribersif you do that, because I used
to do YouTube and honestly I didfine until I started giving in
to those types of whims anddoing face cam and stuff,
because I think it's just anextra layer that took brain
power away from what I was doingto be like I got to make my

(01:00:07):
face do something for thesepeople.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Um, then you've got lighting setups, you've got your
, you got you got to make a setlike, um, like we're, we're just
, we're just getting by with ourmouths barely sometimes I mean
right now our podcast bunkerthat we're in has a lot of
different dog beds for differentthings, because nero is our old
boy he's 13 and a half now,yeah and he has lots of

(01:00:34):
different feelings.
He wants to have multipleoptions for his old bones then
there's like four beds, clotheson the floor because he changes
in here in the morning.
Then we have six, uh fivegallon containers full of rice
and beans because the apocalypsewe have a chest freezer.
Uh, we have the stuff we stillhaven't unpacked from living
dead weekend.
Yes, we are those people in abox and, um, some weird lights

(01:00:58):
and, uh, canvases.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It's a mess in here yeah, a giant container of tang
behind you yeah, oh, that's alsopart of the apocalypse, yeah
it's, it's a, it's a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Our yes, our apocalypse bunker is
experiencing its own apocalypseyeah, we got to get a behind the
scenes look of joe salazar's umprep, prepping work and it was
very impressive and I would payher to come here and help us,
except I'd be too embarrassedfor her to see the state of this
room right now, which leads meto a question from Chris Wootner

(01:01:30):
.
He asks is there a zombiechicken farm in our podcast
Bunker?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
there isn't um, because turning chickens into
zombies would be very not vegan.
It's true we would have azombie chicken rescue.
Yeah, and you know we we checkFacebook Marketplace from time
to time for zombie chickens thatneed homes, but realistically
there's not any good space forthem in the bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
No, they would definitely live outside in their
own little coop.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, and also Janeway would probably destroy
them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yes, janeway is Simon's dog, who you will not
hear on the podcast becauseshe's living in the other part
of her house with Simon.
Yeah, and Nero would bark a lot, but I don't think he's
catching a zombie chickenanytime soon.
No, in his heyday he was verygood at catching rats and
squirrels.
They're like river rats and Idon't mean like special, like
rats like muskrats, I just meanrats that live by the river.

(01:02:23):
Um, that would that lived undera tree in the backyard in
georgia and he was very good atcatching them, but then he would
torture them.
Yeah, and it was my job to killthem because he would not.
It was a great time.
Same with squirrels.
I have some very disturbingmemories, that's all I'm gonna
say.
Dan's just staring at me likewhat the fuck?
Um, let's see what else we gothere.

(01:02:45):
We have.
Hold on.
We have one, two, three, four,five questions left.
Do we want to just do them?
Yeah, let's do them all right.
Another question from zalindamorrison, author of harsh light
you have limited space in asupply closet during a zombie
apocalypse, would you ratherhave a box of adrenaline
injectors or a fluffy pair ofslippers?
I would say, after listening tothe book pitch we just did

(01:03:06):
where a drug makes zombiesbecause it's helping them not
sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I don't want adrenaline injectors and I do
want the fluffy pair of slippersis the idea behind the
adrenaline injectors, the uh,the atropine auto injectors is
what we would, we would use inthe army.
Is the idea that I'm going toinject myself these things?
yeah, tell me more.
Okay, so it's for a chemicalattack.

(01:03:30):
So if you breathe sarin or VXnerve gas, first of all you're
going to have big problems nomatter what.
But you have about 30 secondsto take one of these auto
injectors and stab yourself inthe thigh with it.
If you breathe too much ofthese chemical agents, they

(01:03:50):
might have to stab you in theheart with one.
So you're you're like I'll stabmyself in the leg before I need
to be stabbed in the heart andbe revived.
Um, but it's essentially um,it's a.
It's it's a um.
It simulates adrenaline.
Oh, um, we were, we have, wehave these training ones which

(01:04:12):
have blue tips on them.
So when you're training, it'slike all right, these are the
motions that you go through.
Here's your auto-injector, putit in your thigh.
Wow, that's so scary.
And it doesn't have a needle init.
It's marked with blue tape.
It's like this is just forpracticing.
It's marked with blue tape.
It's like this is just forpracticing.
Well, one of my NCOs, who was abit older than all the other

(01:04:35):
NCOs he was in his 50s and hegrabs one and he's like what
you're going to want to do isyou're going to want to grab
this atropine injector, put itin your leg, and then he stops
and he pulls it out and you seethat there's a needle in it and
it was not a training syringe,oh shit.
And he's like I need somebodyto take me to the hospital

(01:04:58):
Because it's not stuff you wantto fuck around with.
So would you pick that in yourcloset?
What I'm wondering is is theintention that I'm going to
shoot myself up with this stuff,grab whatever weapon I can and
just go dual wielding in thehallway and just start smashing
zombie heads?
Or am I just doing this for fun?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I'm going to assume it's the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, or fluffy slippers to wait it out in the
closet Right.
Yeah, that's the other option.
I'm fluffy slipper in it.
Oh boy, this is tough becauseyou know you might die in that
closet with your fluffy slippers.
They might never go away, and Ifeel like the best time to do
something about a scenario likethat is when you have the energy

(01:05:41):
, you have the nutrition, youhave the rest and the physical
well-being to be able to handleit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
This is why I think you'd survive and I would be um.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I mean, I'll die so useful but if you're there with
me, you might be able to escapewith your fluffy slippers, go
somewhere else that has food,while I'm just like just running
at them like a berserker.
I would run at them with you ifwe were gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
If the world's coming crashing down and we're
together, I am going into thefire with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
All right, so we both adrenaline up.
Yeah, we become berserkers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Does this help us take over?

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
the city it does, because we fight our ways to the
killdozers.
And then we're still on thatadrenaline high and the
killdozer and we just like ramit into full throttle and we're
just like, ah, we're listeningto heavy metal, I into full

(01:06:36):
throttle, and we're just likewe're listening to heavy metal?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I would not be, and it's just like you.
Just, you just hear like likeconstant double bass drums, just
like pumping from inside thekilldozer I'd be listening to,
don't worry, be happy by bobmarley while killdozing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
That'd be my vibe and you're, you're on your
adrenaline high and you're like,don't worry, be happy.
Don't worry, be happy that'd beme so yeah, I guess you know
what I'm gonna go out in theblaze of glory.
You know, I don't want to.
I don't want to die ofstarvation, even if I have
fluffy slippers topic change.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Brian wants to know why haven't we visited wisconsin
yet?
I have you, just we didn't knowyou yet, brian yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Why didn't?
Why didn't you come out to meetme when I was driving trucks in
wisconsin six years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
yeah, brian, why yeah ?
What's that all about?
Uh, when are we going to recorda reaction episode to the
degrassi episode of the feministhorror movie?

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
it creeps um, I don't know a whole lot about this,
but I know that you talked withNaila about this.
Yes, I've never watchedDegrassi.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Degrassi, degrassi, degrassi, degrassi.
Stop saying it like an American.
Degrassi, degrassi.
It's Mazda grassy pasta, notpasta.
Mazda grassy.
It's also sorry, not sorry,yeah right.
Okay.
Oh right, I forgot to say I wasCanadian.
Now you know if you're new tothe podcast.
Yeah, this is actually my meetqueue with Naila.

(01:07:56):
I remember being in the poollast year.
I've been following hercasually.
I mean, like this person seemscool.
I was hanging out in our littleblow-up pool Don't think we're
fancy folks.
It was not in-ground, it's onthe ground Anyhow.
And Naila tagged me in a postabout like maybe there was this

(01:08:16):
zombie movie that was made bythe actors in the show as part
of the show.
Turns out there's no zombies init, which is probably why we
haven't done it yet, but it islike a really powerful feminist
episode of Degrassi.
It's the original 90s Degrassi.
So, nayela, we do need to havethat chat.
Maybe it can be a bonus episodefor the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Yeah, maybe we can also rope in there the zombie
episode from Community.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
That would be great yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You do both, you do a twofer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I love that.
Speaking of films, Days WorthLiving, the creators of Days
Worth Living, a free onlinecomic you can go read right now.
Rowan and Erica asked us likePride and Prejudice and Zombies,
what other film would you liketo see a zombie version of?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I mean that's a terrible example, because it
wasn't very good.
Well, we never watched themovie, we read the book.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I feel like the movie could be good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
I doubt.
It is um so like a, like anadaptation of, uh, of a movie
that could.
That would be a good zombiestory.
I think we could spend anafternoon hypothesizing, because
my firm belief is that a good,a good zombie movie is one that
doesn't need the zombies to begood.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I would go with Legally Blonde.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Legally Blonde and zombies yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, what else I would go.
Shawshank Redemption coulddefinitely have zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, because they escape, they escape.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
They escape to zombies.
Yeah, that could have been thesequel, actually.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Yeah, I mean that prison could have been, uh,
under siege by zombies whatabout, um the little mermaid,
little mermaid and zombies?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I guess I'm trying to think what else I'd want to
watch with with zombies, I willsay we watch a lot of shows and
like, if there's any kind ofominous feeling, I'm always
waiting for the zombie to showup.
There was that french canadian.
He watched I forget the name ofyeah, and it really felt like
zombies are coming any momentnow and they never did and it
was disappointing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Missed opportunity?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah, I mean, nothing super comes to mind immediately
.
But what if?
What if?
Like the, the show that wewatched with Eric when he was
here, fuck, why can't I think ofthe name?
Twin Peaks, twin Peaks, twinPeaks and Zombies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
That would be pretty awesome yeah.
But, we don't know, maybe thereare.
We know something's wrong withthe owl.
That's as far as we got in thatshow you can't trust the owls.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah, that's all we know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Have you watched Twin Pe, twin peaks?
I've watched enough of it toknow that I probably don't want
to keep watching it, but I haveappreciation for how it's
influenced our culture.
Now, yeah, because I do like atwin peaks vibe show that's like
mysterious and kind of spooky,but it's got to be faster paced
and less characters too manypeople to keep track of I I want
to keep watching it, but onlywhen eric comes to visit that'll

(01:11:06):
never know what the fuck isgoing on.
Uh, last question from green man, whose name.
I don't know their real name,but they go by green man on
instagram.
Uh, if you had to choose yourfavorite artist to come on your
show, who would it be?
Oh well, we had james s cole,who's an amazing zombie artist,
on our show already yeah, theyhave to be an art artist I don't

(01:11:27):
, they just said artists, so youcan pick whoever you want.
I would definitely go with emilyhaynes from metric, although
I'd probably just call cry thewhole time and it would not be a
very good episode because Ilove her so much.
Metric is a canadian band.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
If you've not heard of them before yeah, um, I don't
know if I have a good answerfor this, because I don't.
I don't want to meet my heroes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah, I've been told not to yeah, well, green man,
you're an amazing artist.
They draw zombies.
Oh, yeah, they should was areally hilarious zombie drawing
when we were actually at livingdead weekend.
That's how we met.
We were bonding over my umzombie cartoons and then they
showed me what they make.
It's very cool.
Yeah, I'll have to see it.
Yeah, um, but I I think if I wasgoing to go for like an

(01:12:06):
all-time favorite artist, I lovepsychedelic art.
So alex gray's art, um, ifpeople ever listen to nine inch
now I'm not nine inch now, howdare I?
Tools album lateralis all ofthe art is alex gray's art and
it makes you feel like you're onmushrooms even when you're not
so.
But I wouldn't again, I don'twant them on the show, I just
want more of their stuff.

(01:12:27):
Yeah, make us art.
Um, there's another.
A lot of my artists that I loveare actually like album cover
artists.
Smashing this is so dating meright now, but Smashing Pumpkins
Machina album had an amazingartist named Vasily Kafanov that
I still love to this day.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Who?
Who should we talk to?
Green man, you tell us.
And also, is Green man areference to the pagan Green man
?
Because that's really cool.
And if it's not, that's alsocool.
You just let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Is it a reference to the typo negative song Green man
, which is a reference to thepagan Green man?
Yeah, is it a reference to theJethro Tull song Green man?
Are all of these references too?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
old for you, because I feel like we are ancient
compared to Green man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I don't know for sure how old he is or they are.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I just know that we're older and Green Man's just
like no, I just like green.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
That's a good color.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
But that was it.
Those were the questions.
They were really good ones thatgot us thinking.
I hope it helped you get toknow us a little bit better and
let us know.
What else do you wonder now asa heads up?
What we're reading next is ashort story by kq watson called
wheelchair seating for theapocalypse.
You can get it on kindleunlimited or just kindle in
general.
That's going to be our nextepisode, so you should
definitely check that out.

(01:13:38):
And then we have a very specialthing coming up for you all a
summer ween showdown, smackdown,slamdown tbd what is being
called where a author, friend ofours, creator of Avalon,
brandon Starocki, has challengedthe original zombie, wean
weaner, lori Calcaterra, for herzombie crown and they're going

(01:13:58):
to face off and that's comingout August 24th.
And last and not least, thenext thing on our horizon is the
dead weights second book,resistance, by Joe Salazar.
That is going to come out onAugust 24th and just a few days
later, is going to come out onAugust 24th, and just a few days
later is going to be when thebook officially releases.
But you can pre-order that bookright now, baby, and I am
reading it at this moment.
You should, yeah, get it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, it's going to be great, you need it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
And if you haven't read the Dead, wait the first
one.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Yeah, do that first, yeah, thanks, uh, thanks for
joining the zombie book club.
Really appreciate it.
Uh, you can support thispodcast by leaving a rating or
review, especially on applepodcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Uh, like we mentioned earlier, you should just
download apple podcasts and giveus a review and then delete it
yeah, no, we'll delete apple.
Don't delete the review no,delete the podcast platform if
you don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
You can also send us a three-minute voicemail up at
614-699-0006.
That could also be an elevatorpitch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
We have a voicemail.
Should we end with it?
No, okay.
Next time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
We don't have enough time, it's so good though, okay,
or you can follow us onInstagram on Zombie Book Club
Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Oh, we have a Facebook group too.
We're not very good at it.
Yeah, but if you're only onFacebook, you can come find us
at Zombie Book Club Zombesties,I think, is what it's called,
but just search Zombie Book Club.
Each word is a word on its own.
Book Club is not one word.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Yeah, links are in the description.
I'll have to include thefacebook one in the description
too, because I've totally forgotabout it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
We learned all these gen xers who follow us are not
on instagram but are on facebook.
So we finally caved.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
We caved you happy.
Um, you can also join the uhbrain munchers collective on
discord.
That's ollie's Discord that wehang out on all the time, and
there's a lot of zombie creatorsthere, many that we mentioned
in this episode.
Yeah, all the links are in theshow notes, the end.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
I hope this was a great first date for you.
Let us know, did we knock itout of the park or are you going
to?
Which way do they swipe whenthey don't like us Left Up?
Swipe up, gonna.
Which way do they swipe whenthey don't like us left up?
Swipe up.
Um, yeah, or you know down, uh,yeah.
Are you gonna ghost us, are yougonna?
Come back is basically what I'masking don't ghost us.
Well, we'll never know, becausethey'll just ghosted.
But the end is not, don't die.

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