And So It Flows

'And So It Flows' combines our unique blend of water music, water news, water culture and deep water talk. 'And So It Flows' brings water outside the cup. Moisten your ears every Tuesday @ 2pm on WTBR 89.7 FM - Pittsfield Community Radio. Or listen via podcast on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Podcast Addict, Youtube Music and many more podcast platforms. And, remember to love your water.

Episodes

And So It Flows - September 23, 2025 - 'Fire and Water: Protecting People and the Planet'

September 23, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Lieutenant Scott McGinnis or the Pittsfield, MA Fire Department for an elemental conversation on fire safety, first responding, community outreach and how being a protector and environmentalist shapes his life’s mission

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And So It Flows - September 16, 2025 - 'Berkshire Water Beat With Leslee Bassman'

September 16, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Leslee Bassman, award-winning journalist of The Berkshire Edge. Leslee discusses the long delayed MA Dept Of Health’s Housatonic River PCB Cancer Study and the report’s various omissions for Berkshire residents and stakeholders.

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And So It Flows - September 9, 2025 - 'Water on the Ballot: Stronger Communities Through Action - With Jeromie Whalen'

September 9, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Jeromie Whalen, congressional candidate for MA’s 1st District.Jeromie and Leslie talk PFAS in Westfield, PCBs in the Housatonic, and how smart investments bioremediation and water infrastructure secures stronger communities.

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And So It Flows - September 2, 2025 - Not Joshing Around, Flowing Forward: The Spirit of the Josh Billings RunAground Triathlon

September 2, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Brian Berkel, of the Josh Billings RunAground Triathlon. Brian shares about the event’s natural spirit, the culture impact of Berkshire born humorist Josh Billings; and how nature can help heal post-industrial cities of the US.

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And So It Flows - July 29, 2025 - Crushed Ice

July 29, 2025 • 61 mins

Crushed Ice, our second episode of our Cold As Ice series, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel sits with Fernando León, of Berkshire Interfaith Organizing. They discuss the vigilant response to ICE raids in Berkshire County. They discuss the impact on neighbors and discuss the app ICE Block.

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And So It Flows - July 22, 2025 - 'River of Deceit'

July 22, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, sits with Bob Jones, of the Lee, MA Selectboard. Bob joins Leslie to discuss the town’s fierce resistance to a GE/EPA plan to dump PCBs in this Norman Rockwell town. A water fight with national impact, about truth, toxins, and standing up.

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And So It Flows - June 17, 2025 - Water, Waves And What's So

June 17, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, What if water had a soundtrack? Leslie dives into water’s meaning with chill vibes, liquid grooves, and ideas that ripple with consciousness and makes waves.

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And So It Flows - May 27, 2025 - Melting ICE: Community Power In The Face of Fear

May 27, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel talks with Fernando León, of Berkshire Interfaith Organizing, working with dozens of community groups including Roots & Dreams and Mustard Seeds. They discuss the community response to recent gestapo like ICE raids in Berkshire County,

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And So It Flows - May 20, 2025 - 'Regenerating A Thriving Life: Permaculture Systems That Flow'

May 20, 2025 • 61 mins

In this episode, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel talks with Brahm Gartner, a nationally recognized permaculture educator who teaches regenerative agriculture that restores natural ecosystems and water cycles. Brahm and Leslie discuss what it takes to grow a culture that honors thriving.

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And So It Flows - May 13, 2025 - UFO Raindrops from Space: Close Encounters in the Berkshires

May 13, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, our host and H2O Ambassador Leslie Gabriel talks with Melanie Kirchdorfor and Dede Barry to explore mysterious encounters by Lake Mansfield near Great Barrington, MA. They recount moments of eeriness and an overwhelming sense that something otherworldly was happening in our region.

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And So It Flows - April 22, 2025 - For Peat’s Sake: Secrets Of Rattlin' Bogs

April 22, 2025 • 59 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, talks with Rene Wendell, Land Steward for The Nature Conservancy. Rene and Leslie explore the magical mystery of bogs, their quiet power, ancient lore, carbon secrets, and why these mossy wetlands matter more than ever in a changing world.

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And So It Flows - April 8, 2025 - Where the Wild Things Hatch: The Biodiversity Of Vernal Pools

April 8, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, talks with Charlotte Hood, Volunteer and Outreach Manager and Berkshire Natural Resources Council. Charlotte and Leslie discuss enchanting vernal pools, predator-free havens where salamanders, frogs, and fairy shrimp thrive every spring.

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And So It Flows - April 1, 2025 - Berkshire Water Beat With Shaw Izikson

April 1, 2025 • 60 mins

In this episode, Leslie Gabriel, our host and H2O Ambassador, talks with Shaw Izikson, Managing Editor for The Berkshire Edge. Shaw and Leslie discuss Great Barrington’s possible public takeover of Housatonic Water Works. This sets the stage for a high-stakes special town meeting on April 17, 2025.

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And So It Flows - March 25, 2025 - Protecting Pittsfield’s Green Heart: The Story of Springside Park

March 25, 2025 • 59 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, talks with Bernie Mack, President of Friends of Springside Park. Bernie shares the history of Springside Park, the state of the park, and why the urban park matters to the area. Bernie discusses the April 19 cleanup, part of the Bringing Water To Earth Series.

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And So It Flows - March 11, 2025 - Bringing Horses To Water With Blue Rider Stables

March 11, 2025 • 60 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, speaks with Christine Sierau and Becky Daddona of Blue Rider Stables. Christine and Becky share about caring for equine, including hydration. They also share about therapeutic horseback riding and their unique and long galloping programming in the Berkshires.

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And So It Flows - March 4, 2025 - Boston Showdown: Lee Residents Demand GE Clean the Housatonic

March 4, 2025 • 60 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, speaks with Lee, MA select board member Sean Regnier about the recent Boston rally demanding GE rethink its Housatonic River cleanup. At issue is GE’s plan to build a PCB landfill in Lee. The rally demanded GE to rid all traces of PCBs responsibly and completely.

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And So It Flows - February 18, 2025 - Buried PCB Secrets: John Nalepa, The Activist Who Exposed Hill 78

February 18, 2025 • 61 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, speaks with John Nalepa about the discovery of Hill 78, a toxic PCB dump beside Allendale Elementary in Pittsfield, MA. In this gripping interview, hear how John and his neighbors exposed the truth, challenged corporate power, and fought for Pittsfield’s future.

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And So It Flows - February 11, 2025 - Water's Circle Of Life: Aquaponics In Action

February 11, 2025 • 60 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, speaks with Sgt Jason Turner of the Berkshire Sheriff’s Dept of the Berkshire Aquaponics Lab. Jason discusses aquaponics farming as transforming water, fish poop, and plants into a food cycle. Plus, they have donated lots of lettuce to food banks in our area.

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And So It Flows - February 4, 2025 - Deep Dive: Epic Water Songs, Healing Waters, And The 30-Day H2O Journey

February 4, 2025 • 59 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, explores water with a series of epic water songs, news on 5 important styles of hydrotherapy, and a cool poem by Kahlil Gibran. Leslie dives into the upcoming Bringing Water to Earth Series, 30 days of h2o inspired community events starting on March 22, 2025.

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And So It Flows - January 21, 2025 - The Cold Water Future With Michael Christoforo

January 21, 2025 • 60 mins

Host Leslie Gabriel, H2O Ambassador, explores a future cold water plunge with Michael Christoforo, a Wim Hof-trained coach. They dive into the upcoming Bringing Water to Earth Series, with 30 days of h2o inspired community events. The epic series starts with a 2-day World Water Cold Plunge retreat.

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And So It Flows

Episodes

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And So It Flows - September 9, 2025 - 'Water on the Ballot: Stronger Communities Through Action - With Jeromie Whalen'

And So It Flows - September 2, 2025 - Not Joshing Around, Flowing Forward: The Spirit of the Josh Billings RunAground Triathlon

And So It Flows - July 29, 2025 - Crushed Ice

And So It Flows - July 22, 2025 - 'River of Deceit'

And So It Flows - June 17, 2025 - Water, Waves And What's So

And So It Flows - May 27, 2025 - Melting ICE: Community Power In The Face of Fear

And So It Flows - May 20, 2025 - 'Regenerating A Thriving Life: Permaculture Systems That Flow'

And So It Flows - May 13, 2025 - UFO Raindrops from Space: Close Encounters in the Berkshires

And So It Flows - April 22, 2025 - For Peat’s Sake: Secrets Of Rattlin' Bogs

And So It Flows - April 8, 2025 - Where the Wild Things Hatch: The Biodiversity Of Vernal Pools

And So It Flows - April 1, 2025 - Berkshire Water Beat With Shaw Izikson

And So It Flows - March 25, 2025 - Protecting Pittsfield’s Green Heart: The Story of Springside Park

And So It Flows - March 11, 2025 - Bringing Horses To Water With Blue Rider Stables

And So It Flows - March 4, 2025 - Boston Showdown: Lee Residents Demand GE Clean the Housatonic

And So It Flows - February 18, 2025 - Buried PCB Secrets: John Nalepa, The Activist Who Exposed Hill 78

And So It Flows - February 11, 2025 - Water's Circle Of Life: Aquaponics In Action

And So It Flows - February 4, 2025 - Deep Dive: Epic Water Songs, Healing Waters, And The 30-Day H2O Journey

And So It Flows - January 21, 2025 - The Cold Water Future With Michael Christoforo

Popular Podcasts

And So It Flows - September 23, 2025 - 'Fire and Water: Protecting People and the Planet'

And So It Flows - September 16, 2025 - 'Berkshire Water Beat With Leslee Bassman'