February 28, 2024 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast?
Fine ELVISI Morning Show, the fifteen minute Morning show podcast.
Here we go. We got lots to cover. Let's start
out with the fact that our leader, the leader of
the morning show and all the shows around us at iHeart.
(00:26):
Tom Pullman is here. Tom Pullman. Everyone, Hello, Tom, you
look into the camera. You're the cop. Yeah, Tom, you
gotta speak into microphone radio CPOA hey, hey, hey, radio
one on one. You gotta speak into the microphone.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And look at that speaking to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I don't think the microphone's on. Scary, I don't hear him.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So Tom, Yes, But I said to Tom, you're like
in charge of everything. Do you know you think you
could keep us on the air if you had to
run aboard?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And his answer was no, we would hit the iceberg
right away. Really did a show?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
How do you turn on this mic? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's on? Tom? When's the last time you did a
show that that microphone is not on? What are you doing?
My god? You know what? I need people to let
you guys. Now, he's got two mics. You'll have the president.
You're speaking into two mics at once. I tell you
what's going on here? You're in charge. You need to
know these studios are defected.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, I see this one doesn't work, but it doesn't
know But you said that before.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Is it really working there?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Now?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I have to I have to do this thing where
you turn it on off, on off, on off.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's how it worked. It's not possible we have a
defective board. Oup is it? It's the wheatstone. Hey Tom,
when's the last time you did a show? Nineteen ninety
five Houston Town? Would you come host our show one morning?
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Do I have to run the board? No?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, good Tom, talk up a record real quick. No, no, no,
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I want to hear him talk up finally, by can
I tell you? Can I tell you how genius Tom is?
He had this idea years ago. I used to work
at a station in Houston called one O four k RB.
So Tom, after I left, came in and took over
and he gave it this wild slogan which was called
(02:36):
hits without the hype, without the hype where they I
don't I don't think you allowed people to talk up intros?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was like, what was the philosophy?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well it was at a time when there was just
all this crazy noise, you know, and we thought you
could be different by stripping it all back, and it
worked for I don't know about a year, right, but
then uh yeah, then people wanted to hype back.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it's what was your example as opposed to how
we do radio.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
You know, it's no people hitting the bell and doing
the echo and the jingles and all that. But that's
actually what people kind of like, it turns out. But
you know, for a minute, it was different and.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You let the music.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know, what we were in a I think.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was like a three three station battle to be
the pop radio station.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so it was a point of differentiation.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Okay, so you thought being boring would worked out great, Well, no, really, Danielle,
it'd be like hits it the hype krby.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That here was also when alternative music was really really
big in the mid nineties or in the early nineties.
So anyway, I can see you guys are all bored.
I'm like no, So clearly that was this is like a.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Podcast without but also like I feel like at the time,
like gen X and even millennials were it was kind
of like that uninterested but interested attitude like like like no,
not an attitude, but basically like you kind of like
half hearted about the delivery, and it's like, yeah, here's
the new here's a new song from beck cool.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, takes it out the hype.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I shouldn't take credit for it because it was Steve
Wiristock who was the person that came up with it,
and he was running the radio.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's all the presentation, you know, but scary to your point.
It was what the slick radio people thought people wanted,
and in the actuality, they didn't really want it all
that much. I mean it worked for a while, no problem.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
See when I worked at Caribbee, it was loud with
lots of reverb in the background. It sounds like you
were in a bathroom, you know. And when you came
to Z one hundred, we still had the bathroom reverb
turned up. And I was the one that told you
to turn it down right. Remember on the morning show
they would push a button and turn off the rever
just from six am. I hated it.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, it was interesting, but you realize it is a
part of what the radio station has always meant to
the town. It's kind of like Don Pardo on SNL.
It's like, you know that big voice, you know, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You guys feel a nice load of calm when Tom
is around. I just he calms me down. No one
acts like an ask when Tom walks into the room.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think that that's what it is, because when you're
not in here, it's like a circus. Yeah, I feel
I like, and I'm usually doing things too, but then
you come in and I'm like, I don't be safe.
Normally when Tom walks in, we're talking about something inappropriate
and the poor guy gets involved and then he walks
out like what the hell?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh maybe the question let's do it. Let's talk about
as I feel of protection when you're here. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
Because for for my entire career, Tom has been there
pretty much. You can't gave me my first contact, you
made me part from part time to full time. You
can like a year after we started. So so for me,
you've always you know, always been there. You know, say,
like a good neighbor, state farmer is there. Tom Pullman
is like the big umbrella.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
There's shelter, there's I feel solace when you're around. So yes,
and if you're ever not here, I feel that things
could be in flux and I could be screwed.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
You are ass kissing so much now it is it
is just say thank you for the Justin Taylor Lake tickets.
Just say thank you for the Justin Tarrorlake tickets.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think that's a very that's a very very very
good observation. But you should hear Tom. When it's budget
cutting season, the hair goes up. All companies have.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Stressed because he puts his hand on his hair.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, no, but let's be serious. All all corporations have
to rethink all moneys they spend. That that is not
an unusual concept. Be honest. I'd have been on the
shopping block. Yes you have many times.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh really, Elvis, remember when you walked into one of
those meetings with donuts and you were like, gos, just
some money, have some donuts.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, no, I tell you this company has always been extremely,
extremely kind and supportive of this show. And I'm not
you know me, Tom, I don't boter your business, but no,
Tom has always been an incredible, incredible ally of this
show and other shows. I mean, you know, Tom is
the glue in this company and we appreciate that very much.
And one night we got drunk and I sucked his
finger And Tom is the reason.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Tom actually is the one who said I was interning
and I was doing stuff for the morning show and
and Tom's like, hey, we want to try you on
this show called Pajama Party is on the weekends. And
I'm like really, and he's like yeah, And he gave
me my first shot doing that, and then I wound
up getting this one, and like he gave me my
first contract. And it was like it was crazy. I'm
almost fainted on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That did you did? I mean, yeah, yeah, Tom was
the one that forced me to come to the morning show.
Stay here here. A lot of the songs that you've
heard over the course of your entire life have been
because of Tom Pullman.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think I feel like this is like a Tom Bank.
This is It's like like Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Tom was privy to all of these songs before they
were hits, and he would say, well, that's going to
be a hit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is a hit.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But what did you whiff on?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Like, which song did you think was going to be
a massive?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Remember, Robbie, remember memory? Not enough room in the brain
to remember those Well.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Look, you know, picking the songs is a hit and
miss thing, but you just hit You just hit it,
and you just hope it becomes a hit and when
it's a mess, you just get rid of it really fast. Yeah,
it's true. Tom's first day at Z one hundred, I
tried to quit. He resigned.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I walked in. It was a brand new radio station.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
The first time I walked in the building, I sat
down and he's like, hey, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You gotta get me out of this place.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And I was like, by the way, like, uh, half
the staff quit, you know before I even showed up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't think I ever met our night Jack remember him?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Which one was it?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It was the hit Man? No, no, no, no, it was
Uh let's not use names.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Let's use names. But yeah, I quit the first day.
I'm like, you gotta let me go. I wanted. I
wanted to go across the street and do a morning
show there, and he's like, you know, you've got a
content gang Yang.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Was that the one where you and ru Paul were
going to do a show.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And Elvis We're going to do the show together, k
tuk and on the air, but you know, any who,
you just had on.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, by the way, that's the best mistake you ever made.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
They told you you actually took the morning show with
a bunch of the folks in this room.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Here seventeenth place.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, and uh really became the spirit of what Zee
one hundred was at the time and took us back
to number one.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And I was right, yes you are.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's why I gave your finger a good sucking.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
God, I could feel any feeling awkward.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm glad we had some time with Tom Pump, Tom
Polls and everyone. Don't have to leave, please, And that's
the end of our fifteen minute Morning.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Show podcast about what we were going to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We'll talk about that tomorrow. Now we have something to
talk about tomorrow. Love you, Tom. Go watch that finger
The fifteen Minute Morning Show
What would you talk about on your on your podcast?
Fine ELVISI Morning Show, the fifteen minute Morning show podcast.
Here we go. We got lots to cover. Let's start
out with the fact that our leader, the leader of
the morning show and all the shows around us at iHeart.
(00:26):
Tom Pullman is here. Tom Pullman. Everyone, Hello, Tom, you
look into the camera. You're the cop. Yeah, Tom, you
gotta speak into microphone radio CPOA hey, hey, hey, radio
one on one. You gotta speak into the microphone.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And look at that speaking to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I don't think the microphone's on. Scary, I don't hear him.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So Tom, Yes, But I said to Tom, you're like
in charge of everything. Do you know you think you
could keep us on the air if you had to
run aboard?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And his answer was no, we would hit the iceberg
right away. Really did a show?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
How do you turn on this mic? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's on? Tom? When's the last time you did a
show that that microphone is not on? What are you doing?
My god? You know what? I need people to let
you guys. Now, he's got two mics. You'll have the president.
You're speaking into two mics at once. I tell you
what's going on here? You're in charge. You need to
know these studios are defected.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, I see this one doesn't work, but it doesn't
know But you said that before.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Is it really working there?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Now?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I have to I have to do this thing where
you turn it on off, on off, on off.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's how it worked. It's not possible we have a
defective board. Oup is it? It's the wheatstone. Hey Tom,
when's the last time you did a show? Nineteen ninety
five Houston Town? Would you come host our show one morning?
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Do I have to run the board? No?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, good Tom, talk up a record real quick. No, no, no,
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I want to hear him talk up finally, by can
I tell you? Can I tell you how genius Tom is?
He had this idea years ago. I used to work
at a station in Houston called one O four k RB.
So Tom, after I left, came in and took over
and he gave it this wild slogan which was called
(02:36):
hits without the hype, without the hype where they I
don't I don't think you allowed people to talk up intros?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was like, what was the philosophy?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well it was at a time when there was just
all this crazy noise, you know, and we thought you
could be different by stripping it all back, and it
worked for I don't know about a year, right, but
then uh yeah, then people wanted to hype back.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it's what was your example as opposed to how
we do radio.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
You know, it's no people hitting the bell and doing
the echo and the jingles and all that. But that's
actually what people kind of like, it turns out. But
you know, for a minute, it was different and.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You let the music.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know, what we were in a I think.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was like a three three station battle to be
the pop radio station.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so it was a point of differentiation.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Okay, so you thought being boring would worked out great, Well, no, really, Danielle,
it'd be like hits it the hype krby.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That here was also when alternative music was really really
big in the mid nineties or in the early nineties.
So anyway, I can see you guys are all bored.
I'm like no, So clearly that was this is like a.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Podcast without but also like I feel like at the time,
like gen X and even millennials were it was kind
of like that uninterested but interested attitude like like like no,
not an attitude, but basically like you kind of like
half hearted about the delivery, and it's like, yeah, here's
the new here's a new song from beck cool.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, takes it out the hype.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I shouldn't take credit for it because it was Steve
Wiristock who was the person that came up with it,
and he was running the radio.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's all the presentation, you know, but scary to your point.
It was what the slick radio people thought people wanted,
and in the actuality, they didn't really want it all
that much. I mean it worked for a while, no problem.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
See when I worked at Caribbee, it was loud with
lots of reverb in the background. It sounds like you
were in a bathroom, you know. And when you came
to Z one hundred, we still had the bathroom reverb
turned up. And I was the one that told you
to turn it down right. Remember on the morning show
they would push a button and turn off the rever
just from six am. I hated it.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, it was interesting, but you realize it is a
part of what the radio station has always meant to
the town. It's kind of like Don Pardo on SNL.
It's like, you know that big voice, you know, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You guys feel a nice load of calm when Tom
is around. I just he calms me down. No one
acts like an ask when Tom walks into the room.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think that that's what it is, because when you're
not in here, it's like a circus. Yeah, I feel
I like, and I'm usually doing things too, but then
you come in and I'm like, I don't be safe.
Normally when Tom walks in, we're talking about something inappropriate
and the poor guy gets involved and then he walks
out like what the hell?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh maybe the question let's do it. Let's talk about
as I feel of protection when you're here. What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
Because for for my entire career, Tom has been there
pretty much. You can't gave me my first contact, you
made me part from part time to full time. You
can like a year after we started. So so for me,
you've always you know, always been there. You know, say,
like a good neighbor, state farmer is there. Tom Pullman
is like the big umbrella.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
There's shelter, there's I feel solace when you're around. So yes,
and if you're ever not here, I feel that things
could be in flux and I could be screwed.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
You are ass kissing so much now it is it
is just say thank you for the Justin Taylor Lake tickets.
Just say thank you for the Justin Tarrorlake tickets.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I think that's a very that's a very very very
good observation. But you should hear Tom. When it's budget
cutting season, the hair goes up. All companies have.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Stressed because he puts his hand on his hair.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, no, but let's be serious. All all corporations have
to rethink all moneys they spend. That that is not
an unusual concept. Be honest. I'd have been on the
shopping block. Yes you have many times.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Oh really, Elvis, remember when you walked into one of
those meetings with donuts and you were like, gos, just
some money, have some donuts.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, no, I tell you this company has always been extremely,
extremely kind and supportive of this show. And I'm not
you know me, Tom, I don't boter your business, but no,
Tom has always been an incredible, incredible ally of this
show and other shows. I mean, you know, Tom is
the glue in this company and we appreciate that very much.
And one night we got drunk and I sucked his
finger And Tom is the reason.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Tom actually is the one who said I was interning
and I was doing stuff for the morning show and
and Tom's like, hey, we want to try you on
this show called Pajama Party is on the weekends. And
I'm like really, and he's like yeah, And he gave
me my first shot doing that, and then I wound
up getting this one, and like he gave me my
first contract. And it was like it was crazy. I'm
almost fainted on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That did you did? I mean, yeah, yeah, Tom was
the one that forced me to come to the morning show.
Stay here here. A lot of the songs that you've
heard over the course of your entire life have been
because of Tom Pullman.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think I feel like this is like a Tom Bank.
This is It's like like Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Tom was privy to all of these songs before they
were hits, and he would say, well, that's going to
be a hit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is a hit.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But what did you whiff on?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Like, which song did you think was going to be
a massive?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Remember, Robbie, remember memory? Not enough room in the brain
to remember those Well.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Look, you know, picking the songs is a hit and
miss thing, but you just hit You just hit it,
and you just hope it becomes a hit and when
it's a mess, you just get rid of it really fast. Yeah,
it's true. Tom's first day at Z one hundred, I
tried to quit. He resigned.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I walked in. It was a brand new radio station.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
The first time I walked in the building, I sat
down and he's like, hey, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You gotta get me out of this place.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And I was like, by the way, like, uh, half
the staff quit, you know before I even showed up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't think I ever met our night Jack remember him?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Which one was it?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It was the hit Man? No, no, no, no, it was
Uh let's not use names.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Let's use names. But yeah, I quit the first day.
I'm like, you gotta let me go. I wanted. I
wanted to go across the street and do a morning
show there, and he's like, you know, you've got a
content gang Yang.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Was that the one where you and ru Paul were
going to do a show.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And Elvis We're going to do the show together, k
tuk and on the air, but you know, any who,
you just had on.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, by the way, that's the best mistake you ever made.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
They told you you actually took the morning show with
a bunch of the folks in this room.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Here seventeenth place.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, and uh really became the spirit of what Zee
one hundred was at the time and took us back
to number one.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And I was right, yes you are.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's why I gave your finger a good sucking.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
God, I could feel any feeling awkward.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm glad we had some time with Tom Pump, Tom
Polls and everyone. Don't have to leave, please, And that's
the end of our fifteen minute Morning.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Show podcast about what we were going to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We'll talk about that tomorrow. Now we have something to
talk about tomorrow. Love you, Tom. Go watch that finger
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