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July 7, 2021 16 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
Firms show. Wow, We've got a full house for the
fifteen minute morning show podcast. I'm joined with my husband
Alex and America's Uncle Johnny, and there's Froggy, and there's Gandhi,

(00:28):
and there's Danielle, and there's Scotty b and there's Garrett,
and there's Straight Nate, and there's Scary and of course
in his den, the one and only Dave Brody. Hi
Dave Brody, Good morning day. Hi Uncle Johnny. So with
special guests Uncle Johnny here. You know what's gonna get
kind of crazy. I can't wait. Who wants to request

(00:49):
a story from Uncle Johnny? I mean, I have a request,
but I don't know that I'm allowed to actually request it.
Request it Birth Griffin, the first time I had sex,
whole new story. Why I'm a top? Yes, yeah, I

(01:11):
want why is them? First of all? To hear that
you're a top is for me. I find it very commedient. Well,
because well I was pretty good when I was younger.
You know, you see saw the pitches, but I was
always the topic. But I finally met this person. They said,
not Uncle Johnny then, but Johnny why don't you. Uh,

(01:35):
I want to because I was always the top. He says,
let me try giving it to you, sticking it in,
let it go, let it go. I said, no, no, no,
that's gonna hurt. I don't like that. That hurts too much.
They goes, no, Johnny, just relaxed. So I said, all right,
I'll try, and they started to stick it in and

(01:55):
I said, wait a minute, no, no, no, no, no,
I says, this hurt it. I got to go to
the bathroom and they went, no, Johnny, you just feel
like that. Just relax and everything is going to be fine.
Well if all over them, So I never I said,
that's it, that's it, and I got it out, we cleaned.

(02:18):
Everything happened that that's never going to happen again. But wait,
I have a question. Yes, really, there's a follow up today.
So wait, So, so, since you're you were a top
from that on, were you not afraid that if you
did that to someone else they would have that same
reaction to poop all over you know? They never did,

(02:41):
and they liked it. I just thought it was something
with my poop pole that did that. That's your uncle, Johnny.
Looks it looks like we're playing, but hurt the game
after all. That's when that's when I became a hook up.
Oh yeah, that's one of the first stories you ever
told me. And I loved it so much. I was
cat ye know, I was the one when I was

(03:03):
a hooker. No, no, the story about why you're only
a top. But I want to hear about the isn't
the hooker story where more Griffin comes in? No, that's
where Judy Garland. Oh yeah, yeah, I used to because
I used to be her host. I heard. I used
to bring her around to the bars and everything. Judy
Garland from The Wizard of Oz. No, the other one, scary. No,
it's one. How many times for people who don't know

(03:28):
who Judy Garland? That's all? Thanks? How many uncle Johnny?
How many times would you say you took her around?
Like would you hang out with her? A lot? Uh?
Quite a few for about a month or so. They
are back in the six yearly sixties. Yeah, and when
she was living in Manhattan with Liza and uh, and

(03:49):
I was working at I was working at what was
the name of the place, that's Sylvia's. I was owned
by Richard Burton's mother. Richard Britain's wife. What was her
name at the time, It was they had a restaurant
and that was it was her name, and they used
to hang out there and I was the doorman there.

(04:12):
But that was that was a long time before that.
When I was in our way, I used to be
with Liz Taylor. What did you do to her? I
was likely we went and we used to uh we
got a little high and hear her head dresser was
a very good friend to me and Charlie's charity, and
we decided one night, we said, let's go, let's go
to uh, let's go to a movie. So we went.

(04:34):
We were going out to a movie and with Chowie
and Ice and in the back and Liz has got
her hand up on the chair, you know, on the
in the in the front, and we saw the diamond
rings sitting there and then boom, she pulled it off.
And so he had tried it on kids, And that's
I was, were lizzs wig? But didn't fit my from
my little finger did? That's how you met Taylor, That's

(04:55):
how I met a. Johnny was like original day bestie. Yeah, Johnny, Johnny,
I want to hear more about your days. As a
as a bouncer, what you used to like crack people's
heads and like used to like pull people out of
the bar and like beat the hell out of them
in an alley. I would just get him out of

(05:16):
the barb Would you crack someone over the head? I
would never. I never cracked anything. Well you have, Johnny,
But I was pretty you as you know, being like
brute with using I'm pretty Johnny. Use your voice. Use
your voice. How would you sound if you had to
kick him out of the bar? I can't, I can't curse.
Don't funk with me, but get over here around You're

(05:41):
gonna get the funking out of here. I kick your ass.
That's how I talk normally. What do you think that
comes out when I get really mad? I don't think
I've ever seen you that mad? Have I? No? Well,
no you haven't. No you haven't you have, haven't you? Yeah? Yeah,

(06:02):
real mad that. This is a long time ago. I
don't remember, but I see uncle Johnny may at once
they were working around with you are in a bar
or something on the street that somebody did something and
I said, don't you do that? I remember I just
went up there said hey, anyways. Yeah, I mean I

(06:22):
could be a topic I want. At that time, you
didn't take him on your honeymoon. That was down all
this work I did, and I never got to go
on the honeymoon. So my question is always, have you
always talked like this? What do you mean talk like this?
I talked normal. He makes fun of me because I'm

(06:47):
from Boston. No, that's not what I'm making fun of.
You do, and you talk when you were in your twenties.
I just can't imagine that voice coming out of a
twenty year old. Do you see what I'm saying? Like
your voice has involved obviously over the years. No, it's
been the same. I don't well, I I hear the

(07:08):
same voice, right, Uncle Johnny. I wonder if you hear
it your own voice all the time. And yet, Uncle Johnny,
if you spoken this voice as a bouncer, no one
would leave the bar. Now, yeah, if you please leave,
I'm pissed it wouldn't work. I have a question for
Uncle Johnny. Okay, So, Uncle Johnny, you're seventy nine years old.
You were born in ninety two, right, Yes, you were

(07:31):
born during World War Two. Like in the last eighty
years since you've been alive. What has been the greatest
change that you've noticed happen over the course of time.
Has it been the Internet? Has it been I don't
know what, what do you has been the most marvelous
invention or change? TV? And and and and and the

(07:56):
videos that all that stuff. Because when when I we
had we had a first he be on the block,
and I remember it was black and white and what
you wanted color, you had to buy a screen. It
had four or five different color lines and you'd stick
it on there and that's what you'd watch. But and
then and then it started to get We had a
color TV come in, and then you had cassettes, and

(08:20):
then there was the cable cable and it was amazing
that how we jumped into the future. It was uh.
And I was used to read the comics where they
have the in space there that what with the what
were the old comics? And I forget the name space comics?
They were funny, they were h I don't know, I'm

(08:43):
old now I forget. It was what about about changes
and being gay in America? Oh, that was when I
worked the Stone Wall before the riots. I was there.
What was it like being a gay man or woman
in the nineteen sixties, it was very It was difficult
because back then uh with stand and talk on the

(09:05):
corner and they had come into rescue just for no
congregation of homosexuals, and he put you in jail for
overnight and everything. And I remember when I the reason
I got moved to New York was because when I
went to my dad and I said to my dad,
he was like a little gangster. He was that he was.
He had a vendor machine company, cigarette, veendo making company

(09:26):
and everything. And I said, Dad, I didn't want to
shock him, so I said, hey, Dad, I think I'm bisexual,
because I figured that would be easier than saying gay,
because he didn't say gay back then. And he looked
at me and his face turned and he looked down,
and he looked up again, and he looked at me
and said, that's all right, kid, I know what doctor,
We could fix it. I moved to Manhattan the next

(09:48):
six months later, been here ever since. And he lived
on Gay Street Gay and Waverley Gay and Waverley in
the village back in those days, like Julius, which is
still a gay bar that's open. Back then, I worked
there too, if you walked in in order to drink
and you turn to your left and spoke to the
guy next you, you you would be arrested. Yes, absolutely,

(10:12):
that's question Uncle Johnny, like if people weren't allowed to
be gay or like out, like, how did you know
somebody was gay? Like did you is there? Like, I mean,
this sounds stupid. How did you know? I well, I
don't know. I just I've always known you've been gay.
But like, for was like, how did you know someone

(10:33):
was it was gay and you could be interested in?
I don't well, because you had back then, I don't know,
if you dressed up as a girl. They used to
be drag queens and everything. You always had to have
a piece of man's clothing on. Oh you did put
you in jail also really yeah, you had to have
a piece of man's clothes. And it was very strange.
Back then people were did not accept gayness was not

(10:56):
accepted at all. And you know, he has great stories
about Fire Island and of course you know Cherry Grove
where he works, and we're gonna have his party in
a few weeks. You know, you you would be living
your life here in the city, sometimes married with children,
but you would catch the train every Friday and you'd
head out to fire Fire Island and you could be
with other people who were gay who were not open

(11:16):
in the city. So that's where the Fire Island. Yes, well,
actually when I started in Fire Island, people came from
all over the world. They used to come from Europe
everywhere to come meet other gay people because it was
a gay, little gay community there, because it was illegal
to be gay everywhere, and days to come and raid

(11:36):
us and do everything. And it would tell him how
the lesbians got invited to dance. We had to bring
one lesbianan up because they had to be one girl
with every two guys or three guys that would if
you would dance, and you had to have at least
a girl or two with you dancing on the floor,

(11:56):
and the owner that would be up there with a
flashlight going all right, we need a girl over here,
we need a girl over here, and that you had
to have that because I was a goat, so are
then if you couldn't do that dance together. And then
when age rolled through and then changed the whole demographic
of the whole most of the guys on Far Island died,
so all the lesbians came in and bought all the

(12:17):
house they their family left to the families and the
lesbians bought them. And then we became a community of
of lesbians and gays. And then we became accepted on
TV and everything with El Jena de General is coming
on and coming out gay and then before you know it,

(12:39):
gay was accepted everywhere and now we're uh, we're an
open community of an a doubt community, you know, for
for all everybody. Everybody's welcome, which which is very good
because it's easy now because people could come over and
be comfortable with who they are. And but straight families

(13:01):
coming over the well, not too many children come over.
This is an adult community. They have other communities on
on the grove that do have the children with them,
but most of them, uh, the children usually don't bring
to the bars because there's too much language going on
in and tracks and all sorts of things. But it's

(13:23):
it's a it's a whole different era, a whole different
time now where everybody is accepted and it's it's fabulous.
Look at everything you've you've seen and you've been through.
I think there's a book in there. What do you
think there's a Netflix mini series. But now that we're
all here now and and I can't believe that we're

(13:45):
going back to where it was years ago, where everybody
should be accepted, brown, yellow, Chinese, everybody, and and it's
and it scares me that we're going back in time
where everybody's got you know, they want their rights and
everybody we all got our rights. We have the right
to be here. We all love one another, and we're

(14:05):
all one big, huge community, which should all love one another.
I think that there should be for everybody. Yeah, so
did you blow merv Griffin? Yes? I did, but only
for a few minutes. And I turned my back and
then jerked him up with my hand and then he

(14:28):
created were fortunate. Yes, and we met we met his
uh Jack, say Jack when we were and I told
him and what Pat? After we were interviewed and uh
Van and White was there. You were being told Jack
that you blew Murvri went to Jack. I gave him

(14:50):
an all after after we were up here and everything,
and we took two pictures and everything. I said, Oh,
by the way, Pat, you know, uh I went out
I used to date and he hooked at me and
he went who hasn't there You go another day with
America's America's uncle Uncle Johnny. I'll be taking you out

(15:15):
for clocktails today. No, yes, yes, we're gonna take you
about for cocktails. Alex. It's he's on a run. He
has some want to drink anymore. Well really, why wait?
What's the night? Yeah, that's a new thing. Hold on
a wine with no alcohol. I bought this wine from
Amazon that contains no alcohol. So I've been having a

(15:36):
regular glass of red wine. And then the second class
is the non alcoholic red wine. And then three my
teen he's after that made by Welch. Alright, Uncle Johnny.
Love you guys, Love you Uncle Johnny. Fifteen minute Morning

(15:57):
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