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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
firms show? Well, look at the cat drag did I
don't know if you listen to our show today. By
the way, we were doing this podcast on Tuesday, but
we had our guest, Paul Mercuri. Oh and and we
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had so much fun with him. We wouldn't let him leave.
We stole his keys. So you're not going anywhere, all right,
Thank you for staying with us. This is a lot
different than the other show. You can use foul language.
No you can't know. I was told I'm not allowed
to do that Today's right. Well, no, no, we're not
using this podcast on the show, so I can say.
Sometimes we take these podcasts and we we we edit
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them up and we play them like when we're out
of town on the radio show, but we're not today.
I thought she had a dildo in her hand. What
was that? What was that? You just happen to see?
Who was that thing that NBC had? I think it
was like, if you haven't seen it, it's new to you. Yeah,
you remember that on Thursday Nights or something they did.
They did the reruns in summer, Like, if you haven't
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seen it, it's new to you. Welcome to our fifteen
minute morning show podcast. I don't Paul you have you
have a podcaster? You're doing right, Yeah, I do. It's
one on one interviews with I just have curiosity in
all sorts of areas, especially music because I'm not musically inclined,
so one on one just talk to people about the
process what they do. So we've had like Colbert, we
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had Paul McCartney, Brian Cranston, we had The Midbusters host
which were really cool because we ended up getting into
a conversation about God, creationism and science and they and
they go to these skeptic meetings and conferences because they
are scientists, and so we got into this really cool conversation,
which is what I love about the long form, you know,
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because you can really kind of go places that you
didn't think you'd go. And uh, Adam Savage at one
point goes, you're gonna tell me God is responsible for
a cylindrical aluminum tube going seven hundred miles an hour
in the air, carrying you know, a hundred and fifty
people across the country, and so it's really cool. So
what was he? Uh? Don't you get answers in these shows?
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How exactly. So what's the name of your podcast. It's
the Paul me Curio Show. We did a lot of
research on the name and really try to figure out
the bed to the point, I'll tell you about Brian Cranston,
my star on the Hollywood Walk of Famous right next
to He doesn't tell that story, and he doesn't know
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he doesn't know who I am, nor does he give
a flying crap. Yeah, but also Luther Vandross, who's now
moved on to the next live he now knows who
I am, but he didn't know who it was till
he died. You know what you should do? Send Christmas
cards to your Hollywood Walk We'll see. That's the thing.
If you're in radio, it's easier to get one because
there's so many people in TV and movies and things,
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I mean still in on or to get one. Did you?
How is it when the whole experience to seven money.
It's unbelievable because you know, we all flew to l A,
we all had a big time. No, it's it's it's
an honor, believe me. And the people that run it.
Anna is her name, She runs the whole Star department whatever.
The great people it was a lot of fun and
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Chris Martin gave him his star. How do they decide
all this? How do they decide your next to and
who's giving you your star? Yeah? I don't know. I
don't know. Talk to the I don't just wanted to
pay for it. What is your microphone working? I think
they couldn't say your name though, Oh yeah, the guy
announced it. Another guy? Another guy getting a star today
is Elvis Durham. Really okay, but wait, I didn't want
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to talk about my star all day. This is about you.
Let's talk about you. You brought up Brian Cranston, who
interview Paul McCartney talk about how I got him? How
you got I mean, don't you have a voicemail from
him or something like that. Yeah, So what happened was, uh,
I was working at the Colbert Report at the time,
and uh he was guess but I forgot that he
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was a guest. Anyway, So I'm running downstairs we're about
to start taping, and I round the corner and there's
Paul McCartney standing in the hallway, leaning against the wall
like he's waiting for a bus, with his arms folded,
chewing gum with he was so adorably. He had a
little Colbert Report T shirt and that's somebody given him
and he tucked it into his pants and a little
bit it was like great, and he's just chewing gum alone,
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looking up at the ceiling, and I'm like, and my,
I'm just like I stopped that in my tracks. And
you know, I've been around the fair amount of celebrities
like I don't get super whatever, but this was like,
oh my god, right and and and so, but what
through me was said? He was all alone, like there
was no handler, there was no like security. He was
literally like not a parrot on his shoulder. It was
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like just him standing in the hallway and I and
as I'm approaching him, like my whole world slows down.
I'm like, oh, where you going at this Paul McCartney?
And I should I say hi? Should I not say hi?
And then I'm like, you know what, just go over
and say hi and keep walking. You're never gonna meet
this guy again. So I go over and I said,
I just want to say it's honored me a huge
fan looking forward to your performance. And I keep one.
He goes, now not come back, He goes, what's your name?
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I go Paul mcre He goes, oh, Paul. He goes,
that's a good name. And uh and then he goes,
what do you do. I go, well, I'm a stand up.
He goes, oh, I love stand up. I don't know
how you guys do blah blah blah. I knew Richard
Pryor and this and that, and then uh, he goes,
you have a wife a kid. I go, yeah, me too,
He goes Heather and I you know, we split custody
with the boy and he's in London. And now like
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we're just talking about life, like how on being on
the road you miss your kids? Paul McCartney, Paul McCarty, right,
and on the whole time. And I don't know if
this happened an interview, Like you're having like the conversation,
but you're having another conversation in your head, which is
pick up another question, think of another thing to say,
keep it going, interesting, keep keep it going, keep it
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going as long's my breath. Okay, like all that, right,
and and and I literally like on the outside I
was smooth as silk, but on the inside I was,
like I'm talking, I was like the girls that Chase
Stadium I was out of my freaking mind. So um
and as I'm talking to him, I'm getting closer and
closer to his face because like it's Paul McCartney and
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you've always seen him on like billboards or whatever, and
I'm like the close talker in Seinfeld. I was literally
like at one point he was started to kind of
lean backwards a little bit because I was like so
ridiculously like I could have, like you ever see those
like chimps on Discovery Channel where they clean like fleas
off there made I would have clearly I could have
cleaned like ticks off his eyebrows. Like That's how close
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I was. And I was just like staring at it.
He looks amazing. I mean, he colors his hair, but
still like and um oh, I had said to it.
One of his security guys, I go, how is it
working for me? Goes, well, I lost thirty five pounds
of muscle because why he goes, because Paul's vegetarian. If
you work on his crew, you gotta be eat vegetarian
and I can't eat meat and blah blah blah. It's
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really interest fascinating stuff. Yeah, And so so now I'm like, Okay,
I'm gonna leave the party really like I'm talking to Paul.
This is good, and I uh walk away and I
go into the bathroom when I closed the door, and
I called my wife Carol, and I'm like, I just
I'm like hyperventilating, like I just talked to Ma. And
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she's like, why are you in the bathroom. You're doing
something weird in the boat. I'm like, no, I'm not.
I know I'm breathing every and um. I go through
and then I go to her. I say out loud,
you know, you know what? I should talk to him
about making music because he's a musician, and I don't.
I'm gonna ask him to do my podcast. Could go wrong? Right?
What could go wrong? So I hang up the phone.
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I go and I knock on the dressing room door
and he's in there with somebody, and I go, hey,
I know this is crazy and you're huge and I'm nobody,
and he goes, no, you're not nobody. Go trust me,
I'm nobody. He goes, I go, what you do my podcast?
I love to talk to you about music and how
you make music because I can't do that. And I'm
fascinating by that process and he goes, yeah, sure, right,
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just like that that it's right. So now I'm completely
thrown because I'm like canna, like you know, like there
was that girl or guy you always wanted to ask
out there, like way hotter than you. But You're like,
you know, I'm gonna ask him out. They're gonna say
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I said yes, and when I asked him, iut, they're
gonna say no. But at least I'll know on my
deathbed that I did it. And instead they say yes.
And you don't have a plan, right, because it's like
you're almost hoping. They're saying kind of it's easier to
handle no. Yes, it's like you got shipped. Yeah exactly.
So now he goes, yeah, sure, how would we do it?
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And I'm like standing there and I literally people on
listening can't here, but just imagine me standing there and
I'm rubbing my leg my right thigh with my hand,
and I literally sounded like this. I went, ah, um,
I we could do it, and I could I'll come
to London, he goes. He goes, We're in a room
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in New York together. Why would you come to London?
And then and then and then I go yeah, he goes,
it's easy to do because I'm busy. I go, oh,
it's really easy, Like we could do it on the phone.
You could be like naked on the toilet. I'm like,
what am I sing? Just for a first date? Like
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I who screwed it up at the appetizer? Like right?
So I'm like and then I'm like, now my brain
is like, just get out of here before you ruin this.
And I go, I go, look, you're really busy. I'll
find your assistant in the building. I'll set it up
with them. Here's the mind blow right here. He goes, no, no, no,
he goes you and I'll do it. I know what
you mean. He goes you and I we're gonna coordinate
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it because they're gonna just muck it up and make
it too complicated. And they and I and I understood that.
He goes, let's exchange number hers Paul McCartney. Yeah, I
can't believe this is like insane. So now again I'm
trying to be as cool as possible. I'm like pissing
my pants, like is this really happening. I get a
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post it and I write my number in the Poston
and I'll never forget this like I'm looking at my
hand handing it and my hand is like shaking, which
never really I'm like, this is crazy. And then he
hands me his and he goes, Now, when I call
you, you you gotta be ready to do it, mate, he goes,
because I'm real busy and I got a lot of stuff.
I go, oh, yeah, you're ready, you call, We'll do
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it right away. And I don't. I don't know right
my studio at the time producing it was in l A.
I'm in New York, Okay, So he does the performance.
Bear with me. I'm not being rude. I just gotta
find something. Um and uh He's amazing, and I you know,
and you know, and I look, I thought I got
even with the phone number. I thought I got like
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the nicest blow off on the face of the planet.
This guy knows how to say no to people, you
know what I mean, Like it's I'm gonna call It's
gonna be like a Chinese restaurant, you know, long hose
and uh. So I, um, I'm packing up my bag
and I'm also working at the Daily Show at the time,
which is three blocks away, and I'm late and I'm panicking.
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So I'm in my phone rings and I don't recognize
the number, and I let it ring the voicemail and
this is message on my phone. I'm gonna ring you
back in five minutes podcasting some time. So if you
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and five minutes time you called me, Wait, you have
five minutes? Okay? So how long did that? Uh that?
I picked up the voicemail because I thought it was
the work related thing for me, my agent maybe like
something anyway, And I retrieved the message at eleventh Avenue
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and fifty third Street on the corner with my backpack on,
and I hear that and I do the following, Like
you know, when you see somebody who's got who's homeless
and they have mental issues and they're talking out loud,
That's what. I took my backpack and I threw it
on the ground, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
I read Paul mccock call, like all these random words
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throwing the backpack down, and that it was like just
this guy's you know, he just got let out of
an institution. So I'm like, I'll never getting back. What
are the fucking chances? I'm screaming and I'm losing my mind. Sorry,
I'm swearing, but that you gotta like and and so
I'm like, gosh, I go and I called back and
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he picks up and I'm like, he goes, I'm ready
to do it. Looks like I got nothing. I'm in
the middle of the street and I have to be
in the studio like in twenty five minutes at the
Daily Show. So now I have to figure out how
to interview Paul McCartney. Be in the studio. Get it
all set up right. So I'm on I go. He goes,
are you ready? I go, uh yeah, I'm just on
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the street. I'm going from one student another. I'll call
you right back. Hang up the phone. I call the
studio and l A, I go listen, um, Paul McCartney
ready to do a podcast. I need a recording line
right away. And it was like this intern and he goes,
uh uh yeah, there's somebody in the studio right now.
And then I snapped, anyway, did you not hear me?
I said, unless you have John Lennon or Jesus Christ
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in the studio, get him out. It's Paul McCartney like
like like this person was like completely like whatever, right non,
Plus he didn't care, So we go all right. I
called ten minutes go by, fifteen minutes go by, and
then there's no call, and I'm calling back back, calling back,
going back forth, and he keeps and I call him back, Paul,
I need ten more minutes. Now I'm stalling, Paul McCartney,
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I need ten more minute. And then finally go, look,
I'm having a nervous breakdown. I don't know if I
can do this right now. Kay. He goes, now, you
gotta do it now or you're gonna lose me. And
I call and then they got the line. And now
we have like a phone booth for privacy in the
Daily Show offices, and I'm in the phone booth and
I'm waiting to be page and I'm interviewing Paul McCartney.
And as I was walking down the street, I started
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to write questions in my notebook of what I wanted
to ask him. It was just the most stressful. And
then I got him on the phone. Oh, I called him,
and I go, we're ready, and the guy goes hold on.
Paul's in the bathroom, and all I could picture is
Paul McCartney taking a ship, like, oh, dear lord, what
did you ever do it? Yeah, we did it, And
how did the interview go for? And it was all
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about music. I didn't get into like the Yoko thing,
and I just it was all about process and how
they how they work together and stuff. So if someone
wants to hear your interview with Paul mcartney, now that
they know how you got it, it's even more interesting.
How do you find it? iTunes the Paul Mecurio show
or audio Boom, the Palme Curio Show. They'll find, they'll
find God. And that's all true. And I'm not None
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of that was like Embell was worth it? Was it
a good interview? Oh? Yeah, it was, you know, because
you know he tells so he goes. You know, he
talks about turning around when they started in a van
and they didn't have any money, and they somebody broke
in and they had to sleep in a cold van,
like all huddled against each other in a Beatles sandwich.
And then he talks about wings and I said, you know, well,
one of the things I said to him as a performer,
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you know you it's the same with you guys, like
your fans get used to a certain thing that they
really liked from you. You don't want to deviate a
lot from that, right, So I said to him, where
did you guys get the guts at such a young age,
when you had the world at your feet so radically
change your sound from one album to another and not
worry about losing your fan base, right, because when they
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like something, they like a certain way. Because we didn't
think about that. Because we do something, we said, we
did it, We move on. We wanted to come down
to ourselves. Yeah, it was great, that's so cool. It was.
You have a thousand of these stupid stories. Paul mecurial, right,