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February 20, 2018 15 mins

We talk to Danielle about giving up 'shopping' for Lent!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
Firm Presents show. I really loved the response we had
from Friday's fifteen minute Morning Show podcast. It was the
behind the Curtains episode. We talked about what it's like

(00:23):
to do the show on the radio and then and
what we can and cannot do while the show is on,
and then on this show we kind of told you
behind the scenes stuff like but how we make those decisions.
It was kind of cool to bring that up, do
you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I like those
kind of things. I like the feedback. I got some
nice tweets and a couple of emails to the show
account in my name that were like, oh, I was

(00:44):
happy to hear that. It was It was refreshing. A
couple of people said, you know what, I don't agree
with you, but it was nice to hear there was
no negatives, which was nice. That's so unusual. We're so
accustomed to negatives. It seems like in what we do
on our show every day, someone's going to have our
problem with everything. Well, that's what happens when you have
ten million listening. Not everyone's going to agree with what
we have to say. You're not going to make everyone
happy all the time. That's basically what my mom tells me.

(01:08):
It's true. It's so true. Sometimes you get negative tweets
when you didn't say anything. Oh yeah, which is what's
happening to me today. What happened today? Well, I showed
you the tweet, didn't I The president tweeted about the
man who wrote a book about him, who has the
same name as me, Which happens every time this guy's
in the news. The authors the author name David, and
so David just like mine. And so all morning I'm

(01:30):
getting tweets and people who don't like him very much,
but they can't get you that think it's me. So
I've been getting a lot of hate tweets. Are you
telling him it's not you? I say, I said, you
know what, um, that guy is a good guy. But
I'm if you go down the list of his qualifications,
I'm the exact opposite in every category he is, I said,
And so, uh, you picked the wrong guy. Just I'm

(01:50):
not that David Brodie. So that David Brodie he's pro Trump.
Well he is also a Christian conservative. I'm not Christian
or conservative. Well, so did any of them say hey,
I saw that you're pro Trump and you're a Christian Conservative.
I love you, Dave Brody. In that case, you'd just
say thank you. Last week, someone loved me and I
said thank you. Okay, but that was the only one.
Wait until Dave Brodie's book comes out and the other

(02:12):
day there's gonna be hell to pay there. You don't
have to even be negative to get negative tweets. Anyway,
we really enjoyed the Behind the Curtains episode on Friday,
and that's sort of what this show is about. This
show is kind of an addition to the main radio show,
so you have it. Of course. We also today talked
about Danielle. She gave up shopping for lent. Let me,

(02:34):
usually I give up chocolate, but I've been doing weight
Watchers and so I really have not been consuming chocolate,
So to give it up kind of was like, well,
that's just easy. So the thing I do more than
anything other than that is probably shopping. It is it
hasn't even been a week. It will be a week
is tomorrow Wednesday. Wednesday, Yeah, so it'll be a week tomorrow.
I can't even I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.

(02:55):
Forty days is not up yet. It feels like where
do you draw the line. I mean, if you have
to buy let's say, laundry detergents, it's no. It's like
things that I really don't need. Like usually I'll go
to Target and not only will I get what I want,
but the three cute shirts that I see, I get
those as well. Or I see a cute pair of
shoes online and I'm like, oh, and I click on
it and then I buy it. Or I'm on Amazon

(03:16):
and I buy this. It's like the little extra things
that I don't need. Like we're going to Vegas, not Vegause,
We're gonna lie Heart in California. I'm gonna need an
outfit for the red carpet. That's for work. If I
can't find anything in my closet that, yeah, but that's
something different you're justifying. I have to justify that, right,
But anything extra, which you have no idea how much
extra I buy, it's it's you know, I'm shopping in

(03:38):
my own closet right now, but it's so and I
have a friend who's doing it with me, and we're
keeping each other on track. But it is because Amazon
makes it so easy thing is just to click click.
It's so bad with Danielle. I've actually seen those shoes
before and that's never happened. But I did. I actually
did order a couple of things before ash Wednesday and

(03:58):
they haven't come yet. So when they come, like, oh
my gosh, you know, I'm looking at my Amazon purchases. Okay,
Pear of shorts, Pear shorts, pair of shorts, Pear shorts,
Pear shorts, Pear shorts, Pear of shorts, Pear shorts, pearir
of shorts. We're getting ready for vacation. Air clean filter
bags for my vacuum cleaner. Pump pump Panda gets the grumps.

(04:21):
What is that? It's a children's that's cute. That one.
My Lonely Planet Pocket of Vienna travel book, my Rick
Steves pocket Book for Vienna. A book here called I mean,
it's just nonstuff. It's stuff I don't need. Really, it's
just a bunch of unnecessary stuff. So I Chef's Drugs
and Rock and Roll, another book I'm never going to read.

(04:42):
My son ordered two books yesterday, dog Man, which he's
reading at school. I ordered um Suede protectant for the boots,
which that's something I needed. My some baseball cards. I
didn't order those. Um shopping and it's all gifts. But
this is all gifts for Pete like a lot of stuff.
I bought sneakers for someone, not for me. Airborne I

(05:03):
bought on there. That doesn't count because you need airborne
now right now, you're justifying everything. If you look down here,
you're gonna say, no shoes, cute no cute shirts, nothing
really for me. But is it harder to not shop
if you live alone in your board or you live
with people? Because I tried last week not to buy anything.
But you know, I have a have a family of five,

(05:24):
so they're all getting boxes from Amazon and envelopes and
I'm sitting there going nothing's for me. So I ordered
a cable I didn't need. I ordered a blue cable
because I'm like, I don't like the black cable. I'm
gonna get a blue cable from my uh. But it
came in two days. He spent seven dollars just so
you can get a package. Yes, I got a package,

(05:45):
and I also got a cable I didn't need, but
I got actually actually get it. I get it's it's
nice to get a box. What do you remember the
days where somebody would travel to another country or another
state and you're like, oh, why you're there, Give me
some of that hot fudge. I two years ago I
went to Russia and they had in every place I stayed,
they had these little coffee packets that had the sugar
and the creamer all mixed together. I could not find

(06:07):
them anywhere anywhere. I checked every store, and I'm like,
I'll check Amazon because all the writing was in Russian,
and I'm like, I don't know what the even search
for boom I find it like ten second. That's why
when I go on vacation, people say bring back trinkets
and things. I don't because everything you can buy here
there you can buy here. I used to, for like
Easter and stuff like that, make my husband an Easter

(06:28):
basket with all his favorite chocolates and stuff from the UK,
not that he just orders them and they are all
already here. So I'm like, what the hell you want
me to do for you now? So for lent, you
gave up shopping. It sounds like it's easier than giving
up chocolate. I gotta be honest, it's really not. I
swear to you it's not what have you wanted to buy?
There was a pair of shoes the other day that
I really wanted. There was a shirt and a jacket

(06:49):
that I saw that I really wanted that I couldn't get.
My girlfriend is going to a mall that we love
to return something today that she bought for her kids.
And she's doing this with me. She just texted me,
she goes, please give me strength because I'm going now.
Because it's not we are bad. That's my vice, my advice.
And it's not like I spend hundreds of dollars on things,
but you know it adds up twenty dollars here, twenty

(07:10):
dollars there. But it's like, you know, it's it's just
I don't know, but you're going to buy all that
the minute lens. No, I'm not. This is actually something
good and web girl Kathleen told me to do this.
Keep a page, even a Pinterest page, of things that
I really want to buy, and then once the forty
days are up, you go back and see if you
really still want that one need that I thought. She's

(07:31):
gonna say, as soon as the dirty days are over,
you just boom buy it. You know who's been very
quiet here is scary. Scary. You're not a shopaholic online,
No I am, But I'm I'm having trouble with the
whole giving stuff up. I gave that up a long
time ago. I gave up. You don't even you eat

(07:52):
meat on Fridays during lens. I guess I'm a bad Catholic.
I guess I'm a bad I don't understand, Like, like,
why would you do not yourself shopping? Shopping is like
a basic necessity. Well, well, there's a reason why lent exists,
and that that in that lies the explanation why you
give it up. Well, it's a sacrifice. But to me,
you sacrifice something like you put that you put in

(08:14):
your body. You know, you don't sacrifice a thing that's intangible, right,
like shopping. Okay, Well that's interesting. Justification is an idea.
It's like it's like it's not it's I don't know,
it's not a physical thing. To me, it's like you
need to sacrifice, right, it's about sacrifice. I thought it
went beyond that though. I thought, like you give up
cornby you don't have to, But you don't have to

(08:34):
give up something. You can go volunteer your time you
can read the Bible more, you can go do something
better for society. It doesn't have to be giving something up.
Hold great tea, A great team. Just tiptoed in here
like as if there was a camera on. He was
like going low. He tiptoed around the perimeter of the
room as if we're not on camera, what are you doing?

(08:57):
And Daniel was trying to make a point here. I
to bother you guys, but I am so like neurotic
and nervous over this project that I'm working on that
like I can't but you don't understand something. Had you
just walked in the room and dropped off the paperwork
you need to drop off and then walk out, it
wouldn't find But you're like tiptoeing around like it like
I can't disturb you guys. You're tiptoeing around like a

(09:17):
cartoon character. And so so it is destruct It's not destructive,
it's it's distract I would have had a wait even
longer to get in here, and I couldn't do it.
You're not listening. I am Daniel to do so Daniels
trying to make a point, and then great, great t
is tiptoeing around like they do in the cartoons where
they they plunked the harp like dumped down. I was

(09:44):
hoping that you didn't notice me. Don't you? We notice you.
You're ducking down makes it more noticeable. That's like, that's
like trying it. That's like that like whistling like nothing
to see here. You're actually making more of a statement. Okay, Daniel,
I'm sorry, I just had to stop. What I'm saying
is is that you don't have to give up something
it has. You can also do something good nothing you can.

(10:07):
You can volunteer, you can, you know, try harder to
be kinder or not use foul language. Like there's different things.
You have to look within yourself and decide what you
feel is the right thing. But scary doesn't. I don't
think you really believe in anything. I don't practice, so
you don't even do the whole don't eat meat on Fridays.
I believe, I just don't. Could you have given up

(10:31):
cursing for forty days? I could try, but I know
that I would probably not do as well as i'd
want to. Me. That's something that that's more of a
sacrifice than shopping for not for me. You have no
idea how much I like to shop. See, I thank
God every day I'm Jewish. Jewish, Get out of here.
So now, for Danielle, giving up cursing is not a sacrifice.

(10:53):
It was like it's just shopping. Giving up shopping is
a sacrifice for her. You can go without cursing. It's
not gonna like hempt you know, it's not going to
tempt me. I mean it would it better me probably
in some respect, but it won't churte your life as
it is. As shopping is right now for you, because no,
this is making me also use things that I have
in my closet more. It's it's it's it's different. It's

(11:14):
it's making me look and process things a little bit. Purpose. Yeah,
so it's it's that's a good thing. If you're gonna
do it again next year, I don't know. We'll see,
because you did chocolate like thirty years and we'll see.
If I'm a weight watches victear is still see so wild,
I don't really observe anything. Yeah, well, first of all,
I'm not Catholic, but I don't know if that's the
rule you have to be a Catholic to give stuff

(11:35):
from it. I don't know how it works. I'm not
a heathen. No, I mean my husband's episcopalion. Well, they
do everything, so I don't think they don't give up
anything for lent or anything. I love dating. I love
dating them because they're just open for anything and everything.
That's nice. So open, they're ready, Okay, ready. It's funny though,
because I went to a Mass at his church. It

(11:58):
was basically exactly the same. It was not much difference
at all at all. And then when they're done, they
go out to their cars and smoke a joint. That's nice. Hey,
we're web grol, Kathleen. Are you giving? Are you Catholic?
Are you do you give up stuff for Lynd? I
used to yeah, but I'm confused now okay, And she
walked out the door. At the door, web girl, Kathleen,

(12:20):
I'm now confused. No, I get that they changed so
many rules. I don't go to church regularly. I used
to go all the time to serve every mass. I
was an altar boy for fifteen years, right, and then
I stopped going. And then I went to church like
three years ago, and they changed their responses. Oh yeah, everything, Yeah,
like an idiot. They changed. A lot of the prayers

(12:40):
have been changed, a lot of the things. Yeah, because
I knew the mass backwards and forwards and sideways. I
did it in Latin. Once I didn't know what the
hell to say to the priests. You know what's funny,
some of the people, the older generation, they haven't changed.
They're still saying the same words, and they're not going
to change. And they tell you. When I was a kid,
my mother would wait me up every Sunday morning to
go to Sunday school and to church. And it got

(13:01):
to the point where all the people who went to
church I went to school with, we're so so sweet
and nice to each other on Sundays, But Monday through
Saturday they were a bunch of assholes. It was the
most hypocritical thing. And that's where I fell off the
the organized religion vote. I just I did. I'm very
spiritual person. I don't blame you, you know, I have

(13:23):
no I'm in, but I'm just It really left a
bad taste on enough. I could see. I had to
be bought off to go to church every Sunday. My
parents would say, we go to church, We'll go to
dunkin donuts after, so I would go to church on
on the basis of I was getting a donut after church.
That how that worked out for your your spirituality not?
I don't know, it might explain the diabetes down the road.

(13:48):
Oh my gosh. I kind of feel like I wanted
to give my kids a base of of you know what,
I grew up in the beliefs because to me, my
faith is very strong and I I really that that's
not a that's a breaking point for me, you know
what I mean? Like I I wanted to raise my
kids Catholic. I knew that, and I wasn't gonna you
know that, and when they're old enough, they'll make their

(14:09):
own exactly when they're old enough. If they have different thoughts,
I've obviously open to discussion and would talk about it. Brody,
are you a good Jew? I was gonna say, I'm
in a church in a while. Yeah, um, you give
up stuff for forty days? We we were. We whittled
that down. We bargained down to one day of atonement.
So we just have the Yeah, I got them down
to one that I'll say it, I djew them down

(14:32):
because that's I'm allowed that we have the one day
of atonement where you don't eat, you fast, which I do.
I do more of a as a challenge than anything
more than a religious thing. I do it so while
you're while you're doing it, do you think spiritual thoughts?
Or is just I'm starving now. I do it to
prove I can do it? Is that part of the religion?

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