October 2, 2024 • 37 mins
In this episode, Gandhi chats with actor Titus Welliver who you may know from Suits, Sons of Anarchy, Bosch, and a zillion other projects. We find out which character his mom had a hard time watching, what his thoughts are on influencers, and discover an unexpected tragedy in his life. We also find out what happens when Andrew's mouth writes a check his ass can't cash.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Diamond?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, are you singing?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
But what about to say something that I?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What a tease? You dickhead? Hey, it's sauce on the side.
I'm Gandhi and I'm with my producer who I love
so much, Diamond. Okay, so I noticed something and I
would like your opinion on this. I was only supposed
to do thirty five episodes of this podcast for the year,
and we're at like thirty eight and I still had
a few left that I was going to try and do.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't want to Here's the problem. You know how
people are, right, specifically our company, if you out kick
the coverage and when it comes to the next time,
they're like, oh, but you did this, so you can't
go back now and do less.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What do I do? Quit? You're done?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Quit the podcast? As the last podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Shut it down.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't think this can be the last one. I
feel like the last one we had to go out
with bang for something. I do. Like our guest today,
I thought you cool. However, I just we have to
like regroup and think about things. I don't know what
to do, you know?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
My answer quit quit.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I will say what I've been noticing with like the
the actual episodes, because I do go and look at
the numbers and stuff. I stop looking at the reviews.
I should probably go back and look at the reviews again,
and we should have a talk back at some point
now that I'm ending the season, at some point. The best,
the highest rated episodes are when all of us just
shoot the ship and that's it. I mean, like, guests
are cool, cool, but it does better when we have
(01:34):
just us. I wonder what that means.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It means that you need me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I know I need you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I definitely I People ask all the time, what do
you want to do after this? You know, after the
show is over, you're gonna get your own show and whatever.
I don't think I would want my own show.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
What you want other people?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
With your a shit ton of money.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Talking to yourself? No thanks, I think I'm much better
as part of an ensemble.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Cast, just you in a box.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Hi tis I.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I don't think I could do. I'd be laughing
at my own jokes. Already do that enough, and it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Laugh at your own jokes. Tell me a joke right now. Oh,
she's already laughing before she even delivers it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What did the paper say to the pen?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What rite me?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay? It was funny. Okay, Okay, you want another joke?
The New York Mets.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, I'll laugh at that one. How are the Mets doing?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Depends when this comes out, It depends. It depends. Should
we talk about what Andrew just told us about having
to buy tickets kind of because of the Mets, or
should we not?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'd talk about it. He's a he's a lunatic.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, so, long story short. One of the things that
we say all time. People don't believe us. We do
not just have access to as many tickets as we
want for any concert anytime. Let us know, Hey, people
hit me up constantly. I can't do anything for you.
I don't even do things for myself, Like I don't
even go gain shit for myself. So I'm not gonna
go ask for tickets because it's just it's chaos. When
(03:18):
you try to do that, it's and then you old
people favors. It's just nonsense. So there's a guy who
was very kind to us and let us get into
the owner's suite at a Mets game, and we had
a blest. Andrew didn't even go to that game, by
the way, so I'm not sure how he got mixed
up in all this. But the guy was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Shout out to you. I won't name you because this
story's kind of bad, twisted and convoluted. However, Andrew, being
Andrew and over promising all the time and under delivering,
by the way, never do that. Do it the opposite.
He says to this guy, Hey, if you ever need
any tickets, hit me up. But I got you. I
need to know what Andrew has to these tickets that
(04:01):
the rest of us don't. But okay, so Sabrina Carpets
are coming to town, he said, I'm gonna take you
up on that offer. Take some Sabrina Carpenter tickets. How'd
that work out?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I think I think Andrew should tell destroy himself. But
should I go get him? Yes? Okay, keep talking. Okay, Hi, guys,
I'm Diamond.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm just here talking while Gandhi grabs Andrew Because the
funniest thing on the planet.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
What did you say that was the funniest thing on
the planet.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That the story he has to tell is the worst
thing on the planet.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's really over selling it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You don't think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, it's funny. I don't think it's the funniest thing
on the planet. We want you to tell us what
happened with the Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Oh man, oh man, man.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, we already set it up. So the part we're
at right now is that you said, hey, let me
know anytime you need something, I got you, and then
he was like, cool, I'll take Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, go yeah. So originally it was jingle. I know,
that's easy. It's like I could make that happen. Simple,
you dare say that for me, it is, but this is.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Not an open offer to anyone to read out to
me period. Anyway, he said no, oh, she would really
like Sabrina Carpenter. So I said, okay, I can make
it happen, thinking oh, I could make it happen because
I'm an idiot, and just fell into.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Being like, yeah, of course I can make it happen.
I can't make it happen.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And this is a prime example because then when the
day came I didn't get any tickets whatsoever. Then I
was the clown and I spent way too much money
on these tickets.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
And this man thinks that he got them for free.
Oh yeah he did. I take it them for free.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But also I would like to point out that the
day that we really enjoyed that suite and we had
a ball up there and we had food, and then
we went and sat in the very front row right
behind the dugout. You didn't even come to that. I know.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
I got tickets separately.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I got tickets to another game that he set me
and my friends up with and we couldn't get into
the club, but we got into someplace else.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
He was super, super nice and really gesome.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's awesome. Monetary value of that awesome, I don't know,
but I've placed it somewhere at Sabrina Carpenter MSG ticket levels,
So yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Are they good seats?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
They were the best I could do?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
What section?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Section one fourteen. That's that's decent of you, because apparently
she has a curtain.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Wait, so you sat his kids behind a curtain?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
No, not specifically, I will say.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I will say he did text at one point being
like I hope they put this curtain down, but my
kids are going to have a great time. No, And
in my head I was like, but I'm but he said,
thank you so much for the tickets.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
She loves it. This is such a great time. Thank
you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
We found out a lot today, including apparently Andrew has unlimited.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Access or that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
On Instagram. Don't please don't at Andrew Pug on Instagram.
I have no access to any kids unlimited jingle ball.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
The ticket shop is closed. Don't ask me for anything.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He'll buy them if you can't get them. It's great.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Actually, yes, and that's what's sick about me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's crazy. Yeah, so it's funny. But Diamond said, is
the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Well, I'm the clown. It's me, that's about Yeah, Hong Kong.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That was great, Thanks Andrew, No problem. You can go
back to working because we know you need to get
some bills to pay.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And on that note, man, we've been talking for a minute.
Maybe we should get to our guest, who's pretty cool.
His name's Titus Wliver. You have probably seen him and
you have no idea who he is, and it turns
out he's a fun guy. We have some Boston connections.
So let's get to it.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Show. My mother couldn't watch that. I that I did.
My mom was, you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Know, very very supportive, but she she called me up
and she said, I can't. I tried to watch Sons
of Anarchy last night. I said, okay. She said, but yeah,
there was a scene where you were and your cohort
had tortured this guy. Clearly some of his teeth had
been pulled out with pliers and he was passed out
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from the torture, and you woke him up to shoot
him in the face and kill him. And she said,
I can't. I said, that was my sick idea too,
to do that, and she went, God, Titus.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's so dark.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So where was Titus? Welliver, okay, I have so much
to talk to you about.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
One.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Thank you, like I said, for being here too. I
know you from a bunch of different a bunch of
different things that you've done, but specifically Sons of Anarchy,
which is what you were just talking about. You said
that was your idea to do that. Did you have
a big part in writing your part?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Not really, I would there were certain character traits, irish
things that I felt like the writers would not necessarily know,
So I would bring in that information and say, hey,
you know you could he might he would actually probably
say this this.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Way rather than that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But no, I mean, they were it was a great
group of writers, and they you know, they gave me
a lot of range to just kind of play with
that character. And he was just a complete freight train
of a character.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He was terrifying.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, he was terrifying. He was a scary, scary.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Guy mixed with sort of odd moments of sincerity and kindness.
But she never knew, really, he always sort of knew
at the root that whatever he was doing was for
personal gains, so he knew it was not going to
end well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Of all the characters you've played, because you do all
kinds of work, you've I saw that you do some
voiceover for animated features, do you have a favorite character
that you have played.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
A little bit like your favorite kid?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But you have favorite kids, I'm convinced.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I have three of my own and three step children.
But I would say the character that I played for
the longest period of time has been Harry Bosh on
the series Bosh and Bosh Legacy, and you when you
spend that much time with a character and habit that
I think you become very attached to them. So I
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would say in that regard, it would be Harry Bosh.
And yet the Man in Black character that I played
un Lost, I also became very attached and I only
did like three episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of that show.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You've been with Bosh ten years?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, and it's coming. Is it wrapping up soon?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It is wrapping up?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I thought I saw it on your Instagram.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The third the third season of the spinoff, Bosh Legacy,
comes out in March, and that will be the final
season of Bosh, although I'm doing some duties as Harry
Bosh on another spinoff called Ballard, which stars Maggie Q,
which is currently filming and that I would imagine will
be coming out as well in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is that emotional for you or do you expect at
some point this is going to come to an end.
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think it's a mixture of both.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It is, you know, you do become very very close
to a character, and you become very close to the
people that you work with. You become a family, right,
I mean, you know that from what you do, and
there are certainly many more stories to tell. But you know,
I also understand that ten years, that's the longest running
streaming show on any of the outlets situation, and I'm
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very proud of the work that we did. It was
it was a real collaboration, amazing group of actors and writers, producers,
directors that I that I now count as my very
very close friends, kind of like family. So I'll miss that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
When you spend ten years playing a character with this character,
do you find yourself taking on any aspects of the
character in your real life. I just feel like that
has to happen at some point in some capacity.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It definitely does happen. And you know, when you're when
you are becoming a character, you know, I mean, as
an actor, you want to try to kind of disappear
into the character as much as possible. I know that
there's certain affects, physical affects with Bosh. I mean, I've
recall watching the show one time with my kids and
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there was some facial expression and one of my sons
turned the other one and he goes, oh, that guy's
in trouble. So it does kind of bleed into itself.
And I suppose there were there were I don't take
my work home, but you know, because the writers did
such an incredible job, I would find myself very, very
moved by circumstances and scenes and plot lines and things
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that would become that close to a character. You you
do take on a little bit without sounding like I
have a severe mental illness. You take on, you carry
some of that stuff no matter what.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So for people who don't know Bosh tell us about
the show.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's based on many many novels written by Michael Connolly,
who's also the author of the Lincoln Lawyer series as well.
And Harry Bosch is an LAPD homicide detective who works
the Hollywood homicide and he's a guy with a flawless
moral compass. He's known as as a grinder. He doesn't
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let things go. He's relentless. So he is the kind
of murder cop that if a person was a victim
of that crime, you would want a cop like Harry
Bosch working the case because he just won't give up.
He's not a buy the book guy. When I say
that he's not a dirty cops. He would never beat
a confession out of someone or plant evidence on someone.
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But he will do what cops like to call a
work around, and he's a little rough around the edges.
I have cops come up to me all the time
and they go, God, I wish I could talk to
my superiors the way Harry Bosch does. I mean Harry
Bosch threw his captain through a window, which, of course
even the Chief of Police of l A PD said,
(14:04):
when you threw that, When you threw that captain through
the window, I have to say, you know, every cop
fantaside has a boss at some point they can't stand
and that was that was a.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Moment where I kind of got out of my chair.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're helping them live their dreams.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, exactly vicariously through the through the show.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And this character obviously quite different than the character who
played in Sons of Anarchy, because you play characters all
across the board. But is there one that you get recognized.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
The most for Well, I would say now it's because
of the of the long run of BOSH and the
success of that show, But then shows like that I've
done in the past, Suits and now Lost.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh yeah, just having its big comeback.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Resurgence on with them coming out on Netflix, and it's
always or sons of anarchy. I get Jimmy Oh all
the time, okay, And a lot of times it's it's
people who clearly have criminal uh you know, pass or something.
You get some really really rough people coming up and saying, yeah,
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I love that guy, I love that or women going
he was really sexy, and I'm thinking to myself.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, ma'am, are you okay? Yeah, yeah, I wonder that
all the time because you said, you know, the police
officers are coming up to you and saying, hey, you
really are living out our dreams and you're doing the
things that we want to and at the same time,
you have these criminal elements approaching you and saying, hey,
I really dug that work that you did. How weird
is that for you?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
It is weird. It is weird.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Are you like, please stay away from me?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
For the for the most part, well, I always come correctly,
you know what I mean. There's even some of the
roughest of people that I've encountered have a kind of respect.
So if something has impacted a person in a positive
and even in a negative way, if somebody comes up
to me and says, you know, the character I played
on The Good Wife Glenn Childs was this real machiavellian,
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duplicitest guy and people I hated. I hated you on that.
You know I hated that character. You can bleep things
on here, right, you can curse. He's an asshole, yeah,
and a duplicitous guy, A dark guy like Iago. You know,
somebody that if you knew what he did, you'd be like, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't need to spend time with that guy. Keep
me away from that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Just means you're doing your job the right way. I
guess a good job of your job.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So let's talk about you, Titus Welliver, am I saying
that correctly?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Well? Over?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay as a person? Because our friend David katz here,
who loves you and has nothing but great things to
say about you, he sort of sent me a little
bio about you, and one of the big things that
he said, you really care about are dogs.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, rescue animals.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Rescu animals. How many do you have?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Well, my herd has been thinned because I live in
an area where there's a lot of coyotes, and sadly
I lost my most beloved of the rescue dogs that
I had, Little Scout, was taken.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Away and killed by its horrible.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, it is horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
But I think the thing about all rescue animals is
that there is there's a kind of gratitude that they have,
and I think that they they sense when you come
and you bring them home with you. I mean, imagine
they're in this stark, cold place with other animals, they feed,
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they you know the anxiety when you go into a
lot of these rescue places, at these where these animals
have been taken from horrible situations and sometimes just a
mother has dropped a litter and they're just wandering the
streets and they get picked up and they've not really
had any kind of trauma. But I have to say
there's a palpable kind of gratitude and sweetness that comes
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with these dogs. My dog Scout, that I loved and adored.
I had never met a more gracious hostess in my life.
Every single person that would come to my house, she
would introduce herself and then she would mean hostess in
the best way she would. She would make sure that
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she covered every lap.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Of a guest that was in the house.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
She would give each person individual attention, get up into
their lap and look at them fondly. So every person
that left said, if you ever don't want I said,
this is the sweetest dog I've ever met. But she
was brave and she went out like a champion.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
She was. She was defending.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Our other dogs, which are are pure bed bread docsins,
and one had already been attacked by the coyote, and
Scout got between the coyote and bought time for the
other dogs to get away. And she was killed and
it broke my wagon. Actually, my daughter has Scout's name
tattooed on her finger. This is a dog that had
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such an impact. I don't it's inexplicable, but in a way,
they look into your soul. I used to rescue horses
as well. Wow, and had a bunch of horses, and
one of them was a was a one eyed as
tech and mayor and they said, you know, this horse
isn't really will never be like a rideable horse.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And that was not the case with her. She was
kind of like a dog.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
She did not have a sense of her of how
much bigger she was than me.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
She was a powerful horse.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But she was so extremely physically affectionate, rubbing her head
on me and licking my face. And I could be
in a mood, maybe just having a bad day, and
I would go and connect.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
With these creatures and they do.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They literally look into your soul. They penetrate you in
some way.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So when I was scrolling through your Instagram, I saw
something that kind of struck a chord with me because
it's happening to a lot of people on our show.
You've posted that somebody is trying to impersonate you. What
is going on with that?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's endless and.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
There's always stop it. Have you had a lot of
people reach out to you saying, this person's trying to
get money. What are they trying to do?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I mean a lot of it. It's not so much
necessarily money. It's kind of catfishing.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like they're trying to date these people or date them
or just be affiliated with them in some way.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's very creepy. It's deeply creepy. But the thing is
that the people who are doing it don't do it
very well. Well that's good, just because they cut and
paste your photographs and things like that. They'll misspell things, honestly,
I will interact with fans on Twitter, but I don't
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personally message anyone, and I'm always very clear about that.
You will never receive a personal message from me.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And if you do, it was not you.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
If yeah, it's not me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
If there is another actor, or if there's a foundation
or something that I get hipped to on social media,
I go through the proper channels. I reach out to
my manager, who then reach out out directly to the foundation,
and you go through and you do it that way.
But the fans also kind of they get such glee
out of exposing these people. Oh good, So they're always
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after them. They're always kind of going after them. But
I just find it deeply creepy, and you know we're
and you know, you get it right, you deal with it.
You just go why to what end? What person you
know in their right mind is going to go, let
me wire this this actor forty thousand dollars because they've
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been arrested in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Right, You're being held captive and you you got access
to your phone to reach out to a stranger and
ask the money. But that was it. Yeah, yeah, we
overhear what it is for the most part, it is
money stuff that happens with you know these sad to
say older women are lonely and they think one of
the guys on this show are interested in them. Yeah,
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and they have this little relationship and they start talking
and all of a sudden, thousands of dollars are gone.
And the women do the research and find out, oh
I got screwed over here a little bit. Do the
research first.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Please don't send money to people that you don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Never ever. And if that's how the relationship starts, this
is probably not going to go well yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Chances are yeah it's a scam. As soon as the
money thing comes into it, then I go no, no, no,
that's a giant red flag. It's not to say that
if you're in love with someone, you're in a relationship
with someone that you wouldn't give you know that you
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Maybe that you've met and hung out with a few times.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, but you know you're not on a dating site.
You know, Oh I have massive credit card debt. Maybe
you could help me, or I'm about to close on
this big deal. Let me pull you in as an
insider and you'll triple your money in fifteen minutes. But
that's also a societal thing of greed and get rich quick,
there's no such thing.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I feel like social media has really blown that out
of the water. To get rich quick, don't do the
hard work. You can just immediately excel at something. What
is that like for you? Now that people can pop
onto social media Instagram, TikTok, whatever and just blow up
and have these probably short lived careers. But it's almost
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usurping people who've been working hard at this for a
very long time.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, it's I find it really pathetic. And I know
that even in the bin because I have friends who
work at different studios and stuff. You know, they when
they're casting stuff, they, particularly with younger up and coming actors,
they'll look at their social media numbers, which I find
I get it to a certain degree. That's a business thing. Well,
(23:35):
if this person has five hundred thousand followers, that's a
guaranteed five hundred thousand viewers with this person if we
cast them in that role. But it's really vapid. I
feel like it's the syphilis and gonna rita of entertainment,
and I find it really disturbing. I have a really
(23:57):
hard time with it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Hey, within the acting community, is there of a stigma
between the seasoned professional actors and these influencers coming onto
sets now or do you just yet there is I
would imagine that, I mean in a completely different way,
but somewhat similar. I guess with radio, there's that element
of everybody can have a podcast. Now, anybody can get
a microphone and plug it into the laptop at home
(24:19):
and think that they're having this big radio show and
every now and then they'll blow up. And there's something
that's good in that. But I think that for the
season professional radio talent who has been around for a
long time, you sort of look at it like, huh,
this is interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
It's not even interesting. Come on, let's be truthful. It's
not interesting. You know what. Not everybody can plug in
a microphone. The truth of the matter is.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
That the art of radio, in what you do and
what and the history of radio has tremendous depth to It.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Has great depth.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It has huge cultural significance. Yeah, okay, plug in a
microphone and you know, and do your thing. And I
think some people do it with good intent. I've heard
these kind of amateur crime podcasts and things like that.
Or people talking about horror films and stuff, and some
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of it I find really interesting and I think in
that way, these are people who have integrity. They're fans
and they want to get out there and they want
to and they got passion and they want to talk
about it, and I applaud them like earn it right.
If it's not rooted in some kind of intelligence and passion,
then it's just dumb and you know, dumb stupidity and
(25:37):
all this has become extremely fashionable, which to me is
a really depressing commentary on society. I agree, I'm dumb,
and I'm happy about it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So now you said your kids are out this way
or East Coast? Are they in any way following your footsteps?
Do they? Are they interested in the arts and music
and or social media? How does that work out for them?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I don't know how much social media. I don't think
they're really into the social media thing. I have my
youngest daughter, Cora, who has had a recurring character on
Bosh Legacy. She played Harry Bosh's dog walker Sam. My
older son Amon played me in a flashback and Bosh
as a young cop in his mid twenties, and my
(26:23):
other son Quinn played me as Bosh at twelve and
at sixteen, not NEPO babies. By the way, these things
kind of fell into their laps because they the producer said,
your sons both look exactly like you, so rather than
trying to go and cast someone who looks kind of
like you, they.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Look like you.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And of course my kids were inexperienced. They both of
my sons were inexperienced when they played me. You know,
they learned on.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Set their first role.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I mean they had both done theater before, but they'd
never been on film before. So it was trial by fire.
And it's not like it was we were doing a
home movie on my iPhone in the backyard. There's a
real thing and they had to show up and do
their job. And my daughter the same kind of trial
by fire. She's still learning, but she's studying psychology. But
my sons are one is graduating this year from conservatory,
(27:19):
my son, Quinn, he's going to graduate, he's an actor.
And my other son, Aimon, my eldest, is finishing up
his degree in film and also studying acting.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
When it comes to the NEPO baby thing, I'm always
very torn on this because anybody with a parent, if
you are following in your parents' footsteps, they're going to
help you. Yeah, they're going to do whatever they can.
They're going to extend their hand, They're going to give
you the network that they have, and people are so
hard on them when it comes to acting, music, whatever
it is. I would absolutely do the same thing. If
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I had a child and they wanted to be in radio,
I would be like, Hey, you know what, I can
get you an internship. This works out well, right, It'll
get you a foot the door. It's not going to
keep you there.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Precisely, but that's what I'm saying, precisely speak to.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
What you just said, which is I can ope.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I would say, because you are my kid, the doors
can open, but when you step through, you have to
do the work yourself. It doesn't matter. Yeah, of course
we want to help our kids. But the other aspect
of that is that if I didn't think that my
kids could do this and had talent, I think I
would I would do a disservice to them to encourage
(28:31):
them to do something that they didn't have an aptitude
or a talent towards. I was never that kind of
parent that when my kid would scriggle a line across
a piece of paper. Oh, that's the most beautiful red
line I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You're like an Indian parent.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, exactly. If you create that environment for a child,
you're creating an entitled kid who doesn't understand what failure
is or not. Everything you do is perfect. So when
they get out into the real world and when I
say the real world, when they go to school and
they're not praise for everything they do, what is that
(29:11):
going to do to their self esteem their self confidence?
They'll they'll fall apart the first time somebody goes, yeah,
that's guess what. We're here for a job review and
you're not doing well, so you better get it together.
And I think they were seeing generations of kids that
are entitled and that are late. And I really do
(29:33):
sound like get off, and I'm trying so hard not
to sound like that, but I think, yeah, it is
incumbent for a parent to certainly to support their child.
You know, I both of my parents were artists. My
parents never sat me down and said you need to
draw and you need to paint, but it was around
me all the time. And when that's in here and
(29:54):
and that's what I originally studied, is studying to be
a fine artist, and I still paint. It wasn't really
the thing that I felt passionate about. My father used
to always say, you know, a career, to pursue a
career in the arts is one of the most irresponsible
things you can do. But if you choose to do it,
there is no plan B. And that's true, but it's
(30:19):
also it's navigating a sea of heartbreak, right. You have
to endure that, so you have to have thick skin,
but you also have to have, like once again what
you said, you have to have passion. It has to
be the thing that gets you up in the morning.
You and I get up when everybody else is asleep
in the city, dark dark. What I think people don't
(30:40):
necessarily understand is it ain't all glamorous, right, I think
that all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The actual glamour side of most of the jobs that
you see is probably fifteen twenty percent. And the grind
and the dirt and the brutality in the industry that
you're in, it's intense and it's not for everybody. And
it looks like this, oh, cushy, everything's amazing, and you
guys has a better jobs, and they are great. They're
great jobs, and I wouldn't want to do anything else.
But I to your point about having thick skin, especially
(31:06):
when you're an artist, your brand is you.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
So when somebody doesn't want that and they're not interested
in it, they're looking you in the face and basically
saying I don't like you. Yeah, and that after a while,
you can you can easily get impacted and affected by that.
And I think that a lot of people don't take
that into consideration too, And it's it's just a tough
it's a tough dance. But when did you get bitten
by the acting bug if you started with painting?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
My mother was living in Boston one summer and she
was living in the center of the city. I didn't
live there, and there were no schools or anything. There
were no kids that lived in the apartment building that
she lived in, So I was left to my own devices,
which was basically going to the cineplex or we lived.
My mother lived like six blocks away from Famway Park
(31:50):
or going and getting you know, five dollars Red Sox
tickets and sitting up in the bleachers. And I think
my mother. I was thirteen, and my mother went, you're
not going to just go to the movies and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Go to baseball games. You need to do something.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And she when I was thirteen's and she signed me
up for an acting class at the Actors Workshop, which
was also like four blocks away from her place. And
I went, really, you know, an acting summer program, Mom,
I don't I'm not interested in that. Well, I went,
she said, you're going to go. You go for the day.
You know, you can go and sit in on the
(32:26):
class today and we'll make an informed decision, but I'm
encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And I went. By the end of the day, I
was when they said, okay, well we'll see you tomorrow.
I was like, that's it. I wanted more.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I spent the entire summer and doing plays in
repertory at this place. And then when I went to
high school, we had a really strong drama department, and
so I was I was still on track to become
a fine artist.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know, I was going to art school, but.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I did a lot of I did a lot of productions,
and after a kind of wasted year of art school,
my father was pretty angry with me.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
He's like, great, you never went to class.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
And then sort of and he said, you know, what
do you what do you think about? You know, what
do you muse about? Is it painting? And I said no,
well what is it? And I said, I think about acting.
And he said, then that's what you need to do.
My dad gave me seven hundred dollars, which was a
lot of money, and I packed my my army Duffel
(33:34):
bag and he said, you got to you gotta go
back to New York. You need to go back home
to New York. And that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
No looking back, no looking back.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And now your mom can't watch you in Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah, God rest her soul.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right, that's not bad. So I also saw, so you
are did you just wrap on season three of Bosh Legacy? Yeah,
so it's streaming now.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
No, it's streaming in I believe March of twenty five.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh wow, okay, But I also saw creeping through your
Instagram that you just finished a movie wrapping a movie, Ricky?
Is that what it was called?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I did? I just did three films back to back.
I did a film called Abraham's Boys, which is a
quasi sequel to Dracula about Van Helsing and his sons.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
It was based on.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
A short story written by Joe Hill. And then I
went and did Ricky in Connecticut and the short won
many awards, very very powerful film. And so this was
the feature version of Ricky and so we shot that
in Hartford in July and I'm very excited about that.
And then I just finished a film in Mississippi titled
(34:42):
Hotel toront was Zachary Levi and Liam Neeson and West Chatham.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Wonderful cast of actors. So I'm just trying to keep busy.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So when do we see the fruits of all this labor?
You said March for the streaming with Bosh Legsy and
the spin off? What about these three?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Those films should be coming out in twenty twenty at
some point. Don't have release dates on those. I did
another film called Killing Castro with al Pacino that will
be coming out as well, which is a historical piece
as well. It's about when Fidel Castro came to speak
at the UN and connected with Malcolm X. And this
was not something that the CIA or the FBI was
(35:19):
keen on happening. So there were many assassination attempts that
perpetrated by the CIA. So it's a real it's a
true story, and it's a story that hasn't been told before.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
So I'm excited for it to get out.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And that's twenty twenty five. Also, yes to a big
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Come in Big twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And if people want to in any way connect with you,
I know they can't get a hold of you directly.
Do not think that you're dming with him. Where will
they find you?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm on Twitter and I'm on Instagram Titus Wellover official
fan site, and then I'm just on my own handle
on Twitter, and I'm out there and about there.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Perfect, And I hope you have a wonderful twenty twenty five.
Thank you, and thank you so much for coming and
talking to me for too long about all these great things.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right there you go, Titus well Over. You know
we haven't done in a long time. We haven't done
and asked me anything or a burn book. I've gotten
way off topic with everything. You got someone you want
to burn.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Had to burn last week and I thought about it
and then totally forgot to bring it up, and now
I can't think about it, like I can't think of
who it is.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh my gosh, it's someone we know too.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want to burn a couple of people we know,
but you already know that one and that one's too involved.
We can't get into it. Oh God, at some point
we will, we will, but not yet, too new, too fresh.
I didn't like the torch by the way it was
lit by others.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Does that sound like a like a fire that?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Actually, I do want to burn these people because they're
calling me right now. Oh it's the place that does
my eyelashes. I lesh has done last Monday. Why is
there a gap over here? I don't understand, So excuse
me while I burn them with word You trying to
drop an in? No, because let's see if they give
me a free.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Not when people are messing with your eyes. Okay, that's
the burn book and Diamond just walked out, So we're
gonna wrap this up. If you want to get a
hold of me at Baby Hot Sauce on Instagram and
threads I think Twitter as well. Diamond is at Diamond
Sincere andrews at Andrew Pug, all of that on Instagram
and thank you for listening. We love you guys so much.
(37:40):
This is not the last episode. We have to figure
out what we're gonna do with it. Okay, see you
next time.
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Diamond?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, are you singing?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
But what about to say something that I?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What a tease? You dickhead? Hey, it's sauce on the side.
I'm Gandhi and I'm with my producer who I love
so much, Diamond. Okay, so I noticed something and I
would like your opinion on this. I was only supposed
to do thirty five episodes of this podcast for the year,
and we're at like thirty eight and I still had
a few left that I was going to try and do.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't want to Here's the problem. You know how
people are, right, specifically our company, if you out kick
the coverage and when it comes to the next time,
they're like, oh, but you did this, so you can't
go back now and do less.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What do I do? Quit? You're done?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Quit the podcast? As the last podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Shut it down.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't think this can be the last one. I
feel like the last one we had to go out
with bang for something. I do. Like our guest today,
I thought you cool. However, I just we have to
like regroup and think about things. I don't know what
to do, you know?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
My answer quit quit.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I will say what I've been noticing with like the
the actual episodes, because I do go and look at
the numbers and stuff. I stop looking at the reviews.
I should probably go back and look at the reviews again,
and we should have a talk back at some point
now that I'm ending the season, at some point. The best,
the highest rated episodes are when all of us just
shoot the ship and that's it. I mean, like, guests
are cool, cool, but it does better when we have
(01:34):
just us. I wonder what that means.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It means that you need me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I know I need you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I definitely I People ask all the time, what do
you want to do after this? You know, after the
show is over, you're gonna get your own show and whatever.
I don't think I would want my own show.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
What you want other people?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
With your a shit ton of money.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Talking to yourself? No thanks, I think I'm much better
as part of an ensemble.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Cast, just you in a box.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Hi tis I.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I don't think I could do. I'd be laughing
at my own jokes. Already do that enough, and it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Laugh at your own jokes. Tell me a joke right now. Oh,
she's already laughing before she even delivers it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What did the paper say to the pen?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What rite me?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay? It was funny. Okay, Okay, you want another joke?
The New York Mets.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, I'll laugh at that one. How are the Mets doing?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Depends when this comes out, It depends. It depends. Should
we talk about what Andrew just told us about having
to buy tickets kind of because of the Mets, or
should we not?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'd talk about it. He's a he's a lunatic.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, so, long story short. One of the things that
we say all time. People don't believe us. We do
not just have access to as many tickets as we
want for any concert anytime. Let us know, Hey, people
hit me up constantly. I can't do anything for you.
I don't even do things for myself, Like I don't
even go gain shit for myself. So I'm not gonna
go ask for tickets because it's just it's chaos. When
(03:18):
you try to do that, it's and then you old
people favors. It's just nonsense. So there's a guy who
was very kind to us and let us get into
the owner's suite at a Mets game, and we had
a blest. Andrew didn't even go to that game, by
the way, so I'm not sure how he got mixed
up in all this. But the guy was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Shout out to you. I won't name you because this
story's kind of bad, twisted and convoluted. However, Andrew, being
Andrew and over promising all the time and under delivering,
by the way, never do that. Do it the opposite.
He says to this guy, Hey, if you ever need
any tickets, hit me up. But I got you. I
need to know what Andrew has to these tickets that
(04:01):
the rest of us don't. But okay, so Sabrina Carpets
are coming to town, he said, I'm gonna take you
up on that offer. Take some Sabrina Carpenter tickets. How'd
that work out?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I think I think Andrew should tell destroy himself. But
should I go get him? Yes? Okay, keep talking. Okay, Hi, guys,
I'm Diamond.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm just here talking while Gandhi grabs Andrew Because the
funniest thing on the planet.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
What did you say that was the funniest thing on
the planet.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That the story he has to tell is the worst
thing on the planet.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's really over selling it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You don't think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, it's funny. I don't think it's the funniest thing
on the planet. We want you to tell us what
happened with the Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Oh man, oh man, man.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, we already set it up. So the part we're
at right now is that you said, hey, let me
know anytime you need something, I got you, and then
he was like, cool, I'll take Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, go yeah. So originally it was jingle. I know,
that's easy. It's like I could make that happen. Simple,
you dare say that for me, it is, but this is.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Not an open offer to anyone to read out to
me period. Anyway, he said no, oh, she would really
like Sabrina Carpenter. So I said, okay, I can make
it happen, thinking oh, I could make it happen because
I'm an idiot, and just fell into.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Being like, yeah, of course I can make it happen.
I can't make it happen.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And this is a prime example because then when the
day came I didn't get any tickets whatsoever. Then I
was the clown and I spent way too much money
on these tickets.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
And this man thinks that he got them for free.
Oh yeah he did. I take it them for free.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But also I would like to point out that the
day that we really enjoyed that suite and we had
a ball up there and we had food, and then
we went and sat in the very front row right
behind the dugout. You didn't even come to that. I know.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
I got tickets separately.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I got tickets to another game that he set me
and my friends up with and we couldn't get into
the club, but we got into someplace else.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
He was super, super nice and really gesome.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's awesome. Monetary value of that awesome, I don't know,
but I've placed it somewhere at Sabrina Carpenter MSG ticket levels,
So yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Are they good seats?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
They were the best I could do?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
What section?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Section one fourteen. That's that's decent of you, because apparently
she has a curtain.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Wait, so you sat his kids behind a curtain?
Speaker 7 (06:28):
No, not specifically, I will say.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I will say he did text at one point being
like I hope they put this curtain down, but my
kids are going to have a great time. No, And
in my head I was like, but I'm but he said,
thank you so much for the tickets.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
She loves it. This is such a great time. Thank
you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
We found out a lot today, including apparently Andrew has unlimited.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Access or that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
On Instagram. Don't please don't at Andrew Pug on Instagram.
I have no access to any kids unlimited jingle ball.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
The ticket shop is closed. Don't ask me for anything.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He'll buy them if you can't get them. It's great.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Actually, yes, and that's what's sick about me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's crazy. Yeah, so it's funny. But Diamond said, is
the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Well, I'm the clown. It's me, that's about Yeah, Hong Kong.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That was great, Thanks Andrew, No problem. You can go
back to working because we know you need to get
some bills to pay.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And on that note, man, we've been talking for a minute.
Maybe we should get to our guest, who's pretty cool.
His name's Titus Wliver. You have probably seen him and
you have no idea who he is, and it turns
out he's a fun guy. We have some Boston connections.
So let's get to it.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Show. My mother couldn't watch that. I that I did.
My mom was, you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Know, very very supportive, but she she called me up
and she said, I can't. I tried to watch Sons
of Anarchy last night. I said, okay. She said, but yeah,
there was a scene where you were and your cohort
had tortured this guy. Clearly some of his teeth had
been pulled out with pliers and he was passed out
(08:23):
from the torture, and you woke him up to shoot
him in the face and kill him. And she said,
I can't. I said, that was my sick idea too,
to do that, and she went, God, Titus.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's so dark.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So where was Titus? Welliver, okay, I have so much
to talk to you about.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
One.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Thank you, like I said, for being here too. I
know you from a bunch of different a bunch of
different things that you've done, but specifically Sons of Anarchy,
which is what you were just talking about. You said
that was your idea to do that. Did you have
a big part in writing your part?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Not really, I would there were certain character traits, irish
things that I felt like the writers would not necessarily know,
So I would bring in that information and say, hey,
you know you could he might he would actually probably
say this this.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Way rather than that.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But no, I mean, they were it was a great
group of writers, and they you know, they gave me
a lot of range to just kind of play with
that character. And he was just a complete freight train
of a character.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He was terrifying.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, he was terrifying. He was a scary, scary.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Guy mixed with sort of odd moments of sincerity and kindness.
But she never knew, really, he always sort of knew
at the root that whatever he was doing was for
personal gains, so he knew it was not going to
end well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Of all the characters you've played, because you do all
kinds of work, you've I saw that you do some
voiceover for animated features, do you have a favorite character
that you have played.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
A little bit like your favorite kid?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But you have favorite kids, I'm convinced.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I have three of my own and three step children.
But I would say the character that I played for
the longest period of time has been Harry Bosh on
the series Bosh and Bosh Legacy, and you when you
spend that much time with a character and habit that
I think you become very attached to them. So I
(10:23):
would say in that regard, it would be Harry Bosh.
And yet the Man in Black character that I played
un Lost, I also became very attached and I only
did like three episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of that show.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You've been with Bosh ten years?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, and it's coming. Is it wrapping up soon?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It is wrapping up?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I thought I saw it on your Instagram.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
The third the third season of the spinoff, Bosh Legacy,
comes out in March, and that will be the final
season of Bosh, although I'm doing some duties as Harry
Bosh on another spinoff called Ballard, which stars Maggie Q,
which is currently filming and that I would imagine will
be coming out as well in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is that emotional for you or do you expect at
some point this is going to come to an end.
I'm ready for it.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think it's a mixture of both.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It is, you know, you do become very very close
to a character, and you become very close to the
people that you work with. You become a family, right,
I mean, you know that from what you do, and
there are certainly many more stories to tell. But you know,
I also understand that ten years, that's the longest running
streaming show on any of the outlets situation, and I'm
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very proud of the work that we did. It was
it was a real collaboration, amazing group of actors and writers, producers,
directors that I that I now count as my very
very close friends, kind of like family. So I'll miss that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
When you spend ten years playing a character with this character,
do you find yourself taking on any aspects of the
character in your real life. I just feel like that
has to happen at some point in some capacity.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It definitely does happen. And you know, when you're when
you are becoming a character, you know, I mean, as
an actor, you want to try to kind of disappear
into the character as much as possible. I know that
there's certain affects, physical affects with Bosh. I mean, I've
recall watching the show one time with my kids and
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there was some facial expression and one of my sons
turned the other one and he goes, oh, that guy's
in trouble. So it does kind of bleed into itself.
And I suppose there were there were I don't take
my work home, but you know, because the writers did
such an incredible job, I would find myself very, very
moved by circumstances and scenes and plot lines and things
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that would become that close to a character. You you
do take on a little bit without sounding like I
have a severe mental illness. You take on, you carry
some of that stuff no matter what.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So for people who don't know Bosh tell us about
the show.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's based on many many novels written by Michael Connolly,
who's also the author of the Lincoln Lawyer series as well.
And Harry Bosch is an LAPD homicide detective who works
the Hollywood homicide and he's a guy with a flawless
moral compass. He's known as as a grinder. He doesn't
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let things go. He's relentless. So he is the kind
of murder cop that if a person was a victim
of that crime, you would want a cop like Harry
Bosch working the case because he just won't give up.
He's not a buy the book guy. When I say
that he's not a dirty cops. He would never beat
a confession out of someone or plant evidence on someone.
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But he will do what cops like to call a
work around, and he's a little rough around the edges.
I have cops come up to me all the time
and they go, God, I wish I could talk to
my superiors the way Harry Bosch does. I mean Harry
Bosch threw his captain through a window, which, of course
even the Chief of Police of l A PD said,
(14:04):
when you threw that, When you threw that captain through
the window, I have to say, you know, every cop
fantaside has a boss at some point they can't stand
and that was that was a.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Moment where I kind of got out of my chair.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're helping them live their dreams.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, exactly vicariously through the through the show.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And this character obviously quite different than the character who
played in Sons of Anarchy, because you play characters all
across the board. But is there one that you get recognized.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
The most for Well, I would say now it's because
of the of the long run of BOSH and the
success of that show, But then shows like that I've
done in the past, Suits and now Lost.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh yeah, just having its big comeback.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Resurgence on with them coming out on Netflix, and it's
always or sons of anarchy. I get Jimmy Oh all
the time, okay, And a lot of times it's it's
people who clearly have criminal uh you know, pass or something.
You get some really really rough people coming up and saying, yeah,
(15:06):
I love that guy, I love that or women going
he was really sexy, and I'm thinking to myself.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, ma'am, are you okay? Yeah, yeah, I wonder that
all the time because you said, you know, the police
officers are coming up to you and saying, hey, you
really are living out our dreams and you're doing the
things that we want to and at the same time,
you have these criminal elements approaching you and saying, hey,
I really dug that work that you did. How weird
is that for you?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
It is weird. It is weird.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Are you like, please stay away from me?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
For the for the most part, well, I always come correctly,
you know what I mean. There's even some of the
roughest of people that I've encountered have a kind of respect.
So if something has impacted a person in a positive
and even in a negative way, if somebody comes up
to me and says, you know, the character I played
on The Good Wife Glenn Childs was this real machiavellian,
(15:55):
duplicitest guy and people I hated. I hated you on that.
You know I hated that character. You can bleep things
on here, right, you can curse. He's an asshole, yeah,
and a duplicitous guy, A dark guy like Iago. You know,
somebody that if you knew what he did, you'd be like, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't need to spend time with that guy. Keep
me away from that.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Just means you're doing your job the right way. I
guess a good job of your job.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So let's talk about you, Titus Welliver, am I saying
that correctly?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Well? Over?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay as a person? Because our friend David katz here,
who loves you and has nothing but great things to
say about you, he sort of sent me a little
bio about you, and one of the big things that
he said, you really care about are dogs.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, rescue animals.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Rescu animals. How many do you have?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Well, my herd has been thinned because I live in
an area where there's a lot of coyotes, and sadly
I lost my most beloved of the rescue dogs that
I had, Little Scout, was taken.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Away and killed by its horrible.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, it is horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
But I think the thing about all rescue animals is
that there is there's a kind of gratitude that they have,
and I think that they they sense when you come
and you bring them home with you. I mean, imagine
they're in this stark, cold place with other animals, they feed,
(17:20):
they you know the anxiety when you go into a
lot of these rescue places, at these where these animals
have been taken from horrible situations and sometimes just a
mother has dropped a litter and they're just wandering the
streets and they get picked up and they've not really
had any kind of trauma. But I have to say
there's a palpable kind of gratitude and sweetness that comes
(17:41):
with these dogs. My dog Scout, that I loved and adored.
I had never met a more gracious hostess in my life.
Every single person that would come to my house, she
would introduce herself and then she would mean hostess in
the best way she would. She would make sure that
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she covered every lap.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Of a guest that was in the house.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
She would give each person individual attention, get up into
their lap and look at them fondly. So every person
that left said, if you ever don't want I said,
this is the sweetest dog I've ever met. But she
was brave and she went out like a champion.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
She was. She was defending.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Our other dogs, which are are pure bed bread docsins,
and one had already been attacked by the coyote, and
Scout got between the coyote and bought time for the
other dogs to get away. And she was killed and
it broke my wagon. Actually, my daughter has Scout's name
tattooed on her finger. This is a dog that had
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such an impact. I don't it's inexplicable, but in a way,
they look into your soul. I used to rescue horses
as well. Wow, and had a bunch of horses, and
one of them was a was a one eyed as
tech and mayor and they said, you know, this horse
isn't really will never be like a rideable horse.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And that was not the case with her. She was
kind of like a dog.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
She did not have a sense of her of how
much bigger she was than me.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
She was a powerful horse.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
But she was so extremely physically affectionate, rubbing her head
on me and licking my face. And I could be
in a mood, maybe just having a bad day, and
I would go and connect.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
With these creatures and they do.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They literally look into your soul. They penetrate you in
some way.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So when I was scrolling through your Instagram, I saw
something that kind of struck a chord with me because
it's happening to a lot of people on our show.
You've posted that somebody is trying to impersonate you. What
is going on with that?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's endless and.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
There's always stop it. Have you had a lot of
people reach out to you saying, this person's trying to
get money. What are they trying to do?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I mean a lot of it. It's not so much
necessarily money. It's kind of catfishing.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like they're trying to date these people or date them
or just be affiliated with them in some way.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's very creepy. It's deeply creepy. But the thing is
that the people who are doing it don't do it
very well. Well that's good, just because they cut and
paste your photographs and things like that. They'll misspell things, honestly,
I will interact with fans on Twitter, but I don't
(20:40):
personally message anyone, and I'm always very clear about that.
You will never receive a personal message from me.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And if you do, it was not you.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
If yeah, it's not me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
If there is another actor, or if there's a foundation
or something that I get hipped to on social media,
I go through the proper channels. I reach out to
my manager, who then reach out out directly to the foundation,
and you go through and you do it that way.
But the fans also kind of they get such glee
out of exposing these people. Oh good, So they're always
(21:10):
after them. They're always kind of going after them. But
I just find it deeply creepy, and you know we're
and you know, you get it right, you deal with it.
You just go why to what end? What person you
know in their right mind is going to go, let
me wire this this actor forty thousand dollars because they've
(21:31):
been arrested in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Right, You're being held captive and you you got access
to your phone to reach out to a stranger and
ask the money. But that was it. Yeah, yeah, we
overhear what it is for the most part, it is
money stuff that happens with you know these sad to
say older women are lonely and they think one of
the guys on this show are interested in them. Yeah,
(21:55):
and they have this little relationship and they start talking
and all of a sudden, thousands of dollars are gone.
And the women do the research and find out, oh
I got screwed over here a little bit. Do the
research first.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Please don't send money to people that you don't know exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Never ever. And if that's how the relationship starts, this
is probably not going to go well yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Chances are yeah it's a scam. As soon as the
money thing comes into it, then I go no, no, no,
that's a giant red flag. It's not to say that
if you're in love with someone, you're in a relationship
with someone that you wouldn't give you know that you
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Maybe that you've met and hung out with a few times.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, but you know you're not on a dating site.
You know, Oh I have massive credit card debt. Maybe
you could help me, or I'm about to close on
this big deal. Let me pull you in as an
insider and you'll triple your money in fifteen minutes. But
that's also a societal thing of greed and get rich quick,
there's no such thing.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I feel like social media has really blown that out
of the water. To get rich quick, don't do the
hard work. You can just immediately excel at something. What
is that like for you? Now that people can pop
onto social media Instagram, TikTok, whatever and just blow up
and have these probably short lived careers. But it's almost
(23:11):
usurping people who've been working hard at this for a
very long time.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, it's I find it really pathetic. And I know
that even in the bin because I have friends who
work at different studios and stuff. You know, they when
they're casting stuff, they, particularly with younger up and coming actors,
they'll look at their social media numbers, which I find
I get it to a certain degree. That's a business thing. Well,
(23:35):
if this person has five hundred thousand followers, that's a
guaranteed five hundred thousand viewers with this person if we
cast them in that role. But it's really vapid. I
feel like it's the syphilis and gonna rita of entertainment,
and I find it really disturbing. I have a really
(23:57):
hard time with it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Hey, within the acting community, is there of a stigma
between the seasoned professional actors and these influencers coming onto
sets now or do you just yet there is I
would imagine that, I mean in a completely different way,
but somewhat similar. I guess with radio, there's that element
of everybody can have a podcast. Now, anybody can get
a microphone and plug it into the laptop at home
(24:19):
and think that they're having this big radio show and
every now and then they'll blow up. And there's something
that's good in that. But I think that for the
season professional radio talent who has been around for a
long time, you sort of look at it like, huh,
this is interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
It's not even interesting. Come on, let's be truthful. It's
not interesting. You know what. Not everybody can plug in
a microphone. The truth of the matter is.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
That the art of radio, in what you do and
what and the history of radio has tremendous depth to It.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Has great depth.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It has huge cultural significance. Yeah, okay, plug in a
microphone and you know, and do your thing. And I
think some people do it with good intent. I've heard
these kind of amateur crime podcasts and things like that.
Or people talking about horror films and stuff, and some
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of it I find really interesting and I think in
that way, these are people who have integrity. They're fans
and they want to get out there and they want
to and they got passion and they want to talk
about it, and I applaud them like earn it right.
If it's not rooted in some kind of intelligence and passion,
then it's just dumb and you know, dumb stupidity and
(25:37):
all this has become extremely fashionable, which to me is
a really depressing commentary on society. I agree, I'm dumb,
and I'm happy about it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So now you said your kids are out this way
or East Coast? Are they in any way following your footsteps?
Do they? Are they interested in the arts and music
and or social media? How does that work out for them?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I don't know how much social media. I don't think
they're really into the social media thing. I have my
youngest daughter, Cora, who has had a recurring character on
Bosh Legacy. She played Harry Bosh's dog walker Sam. My
older son Amon played me in a flashback and Bosh
as a young cop in his mid twenties, and my
(26:23):
other son Quinn played me as Bosh at twelve and
at sixteen, not NEPO babies. By the way, these things
kind of fell into their laps because they the producer said,
your sons both look exactly like you, so rather than
trying to go and cast someone who looks kind of
like you, they.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Look like you.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
And of course my kids were inexperienced. They both of
my sons were inexperienced when they played me. You know,
they learned on.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Set their first role.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I mean they had both done theater before, but they'd
never been on film before. So it was trial by fire.
And it's not like it was we were doing a
home movie on my iPhone in the backyard. There's a
real thing and they had to show up and do
their job. And my daughter the same kind of trial
by fire. She's still learning, but she's studying psychology. But
my sons are one is graduating this year from conservatory,
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my son, Quinn, he's going to graduate, he's an actor.
And my other son, Aimon, my eldest, is finishing up
his degree in film and also studying acting.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
When it comes to the NEPO baby thing, I'm always
very torn on this because anybody with a parent, if
you are following in your parents' footsteps, they're going to
help you. Yeah, they're going to do whatever they can.
They're going to extend their hand, They're going to give
you the network that they have, and people are so
hard on them when it comes to acting, music, whatever
it is. I would absolutely do the same thing. If
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I had a child and they wanted to be in radio,
I would be like, Hey, you know what, I can
get you an internship. This works out well, right, It'll
get you a foot the door. It's not going to
keep you there.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Precisely, but that's what I'm saying, precisely speak to.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
What you just said, which is I can ope.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I would say, because you are my kid, the doors
can open, but when you step through, you have to
do the work yourself. It doesn't matter. Yeah, of course
we want to help our kids. But the other aspect
of that is that if I didn't think that my
kids could do this and had talent, I think I
would I would do a disservice to them to encourage
(28:31):
them to do something that they didn't have an aptitude
or a talent towards. I was never that kind of
parent that when my kid would scriggle a line across
a piece of paper. Oh, that's the most beautiful red
line I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You're like an Indian parent.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, exactly. If you create that environment for a child,
you're creating an entitled kid who doesn't understand what failure
is or not. Everything you do is perfect. So when
they get out into the real world and when I
say the real world, when they go to school and
they're not praise for everything they do, what is that
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going to do to their self esteem their self confidence?
They'll they'll fall apart the first time somebody goes, yeah,
that's guess what. We're here for a job review and
you're not doing well, so you better get it together.
And I think they were seeing generations of kids that
are entitled and that are late. And I really do
(29:33):
sound like get off, and I'm trying so hard not
to sound like that, but I think, yeah, it is
incumbent for a parent to certainly to support their child.
You know, I both of my parents were artists. My
parents never sat me down and said you need to
draw and you need to paint, but it was around
me all the time. And when that's in here and
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and that's what I originally studied, is studying to be
a fine artist, and I still paint. It wasn't really
the thing that I felt passionate about. My father used
to always say, you know, a career, to pursue a
career in the arts is one of the most irresponsible
things you can do. But if you choose to do it,
there is no plan B. And that's true, but it's
(30:19):
also it's navigating a sea of heartbreak, right. You have
to endure that, so you have to have thick skin,
but you also have to have, like once again what
you said, you have to have passion. It has to
be the thing that gets you up in the morning.
You and I get up when everybody else is asleep
in the city, dark dark. What I think people don't
(30:40):
necessarily understand is it ain't all glamorous, right, I think
that all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The actual glamour side of most of the jobs that
you see is probably fifteen twenty percent. And the grind
and the dirt and the brutality in the industry that
you're in, it's intense and it's not for everybody. And
it looks like this, oh, cushy, everything's amazing, and you
guys has a better jobs, and they are great. They're
great jobs, and I wouldn't want to do anything else.
But I to your point about having thick skin, especially
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when you're an artist, your brand is you.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
So when somebody doesn't want that and they're not interested
in it, they're looking you in the face and basically
saying I don't like you. Yeah, and that after a while,
you can you can easily get impacted and affected by that.
And I think that a lot of people don't take
that into consideration too, And it's it's just a tough
it's a tough dance. But when did you get bitten
by the acting bug if you started with painting?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
My mother was living in Boston one summer and she
was living in the center of the city. I didn't
live there, and there were no schools or anything. There
were no kids that lived in the apartment building that
she lived in, So I was left to my own devices,
which was basically going to the cineplex or we lived.
My mother lived like six blocks away from Famway Park
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or going and getting you know, five dollars Red Sox
tickets and sitting up in the bleachers. And I think
my mother. I was thirteen, and my mother went, you're
not going to just go to the movies and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Go to baseball games. You need to do something.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And she when I was thirteen's and she signed me
up for an acting class at the Actors Workshop, which
was also like four blocks away from her place. And
I went, really, you know, an acting summer program, Mom,
I don't I'm not interested in that. Well, I went,
she said, you're going to go. You go for the day.
You know, you can go and sit in on the
(32:26):
class today and we'll make an informed decision, but I'm
encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And I went. By the end of the day, I
was when they said, okay, well we'll see you tomorrow.
I was like, that's it. I wanted more.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I spent the entire summer and doing plays in
repertory at this place. And then when I went to
high school, we had a really strong drama department, and
so I was I was still on track to become
a fine artist.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
You know, I was going to art school, but.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I did a lot of I did a lot of productions,
and after a kind of wasted year of art school,
my father was pretty angry with me.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
He's like, great, you never went to class.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
And then sort of and he said, you know, what
do you what do you think about? You know, what
do you muse about? Is it painting? And I said no,
well what is it? And I said, I think about acting.
And he said, then that's what you need to do.
My dad gave me seven hundred dollars, which was a
lot of money, and I packed my my army Duffel
(33:34):
bag and he said, you got to you gotta go
back to New York. You need to go back home
to New York. And that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
No looking back, no looking back.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And now your mom can't watch you in Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah, God rest her soul.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right, that's not bad. So I also saw, so you
are did you just wrap on season three of Bosh Legacy? Yeah,
so it's streaming now.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
No, it's streaming in I believe March of twenty five.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh wow, okay, But I also saw creeping through your
Instagram that you just finished a movie wrapping a movie, Ricky?
Is that what it was called?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I did? I just did three films back to back.
I did a film called Abraham's Boys, which is a
quasi sequel to Dracula about Van Helsing and his sons.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
It was based on.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
A short story written by Joe Hill. And then I
went and did Ricky in Connecticut and the short won
many awards, very very powerful film. And so this was
the feature version of Ricky and so we shot that
in Hartford in July and I'm very excited about that.
And then I just finished a film in Mississippi titled
(34:42):
Hotel toront was Zachary Levi and Liam Neeson and West Chatham.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Wonderful cast of actors. So I'm just trying to keep busy.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So when do we see the fruits of all this labor?
You said March for the streaming with Bosh Legsy and
the spin off? What about these three?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Those films should be coming out in twenty twenty at
some point. Don't have release dates on those. I did
another film called Killing Castro with al Pacino that will
be coming out as well, which is a historical piece
as well. It's about when Fidel Castro came to speak
at the UN and connected with Malcolm X. And this
was not something that the CIA or the FBI was
(35:19):
keen on happening. So there were many assassination attempts that
perpetrated by the CIA. So it's a real it's a
true story, and it's a story that hasn't been told before.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
So I'm excited for it to get out.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And that's twenty twenty five. Also, yes to a big
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Come in Big twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And if people want to in any way connect with you,
I know they can't get a hold of you directly.
Do not think that you're dming with him. Where will
they find you?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm on Twitter and I'm on Instagram Titus Wellover official
fan site, and then I'm just on my own handle
on Twitter, and I'm out there and about there.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Perfect, And I hope you have a wonderful twenty twenty five.
Thank you, and thank you so much for coming and
talking to me for too long about all these great things.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right there you go, Titus well Over. You know
we haven't done in a long time. We haven't done
and asked me anything or a burn book. I've gotten
way off topic with everything. You got someone you want
to burn.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Had to burn last week and I thought about it
and then totally forgot to bring it up, and now
I can't think about it, like I can't think of
who it is.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh my gosh, it's someone we know too.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want to burn a couple of people we know,
but you already know that one and that one's too involved.
We can't get into it. Oh God, at some point
we will, we will, but not yet, too new, too fresh.
I didn't like the torch by the way it was
lit by others.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Does that sound like a like a fire that?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Actually, I do want to burn these people because they're
calling me right now. Oh it's the place that does
my eyelashes. I lesh has done last Monday. Why is
there a gap over here? I don't understand, So excuse
me while I burn them with word You trying to
drop an in? No, because let's see if they give
me a free.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Not when people are messing with your eyes. Okay, that's
the burn book and Diamond just walked out, So we're
gonna wrap this up. If you want to get a
hold of me at Baby Hot Sauce on Instagram and
threads I think Twitter as well. Diamond is at Diamond
Sincere andrews at Andrew Pug, all of that on Instagram
and thank you for listening. We love you guys so much.
(37:40):
This is not the last episode. We have to figure
out what we're gonna do with it. Okay, see you
next time.
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