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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
the story of the day. Nothing like starting the show
out with a real disturbing one, right. So in Thailand,
this guy was in the woods and came upon this
decorated tree. But it's not really a decorated tree like
we're used to seeing with ornaments or lights. It had
underwear on it. Yeah, and they called it the Masturbasin tree. Yeah.
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So basically what happened is you know that they this
guy found this tree, he ended up calling the cops,
and this led them to this twenty seven year old
guy who admitted that he was drunkenly stealing people in
his surrounding areas underwear and then hanging them up on
the tree. He would then go up to them and
sniff them as he mastered, and then when they got
rid of the scent from the owner, he would then
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discard them. So extra disgusting. How do you just have
access to people's underwear? Like, if that was someone in
my neighborhood, it just wouldn't be that easy to go
around house to house and get people's underwear. Well, apparently
people had been reported their underwear missing for a while,
but would like I would never notice if a pair
of my underwear went missing. I would just assume I
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lost it during travel, or you know, things just go
places in your house that you don't even realize. I
wouldn't know either, because I seriously have twenty five pairs
of the same as act pair of panties, So I
just would have no idea when we're missing. But I
guess like back in the day when I was a kid,
we used to hang our clothes outside to dry. I
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know a lot of people still do that now, including
underwear and stuff if people don't have a dryer. So
it could be a situation like that where there's people
hanging clothes on the clothesline. That that's the only thing
I could think, because because then it's easy, you could
just go and someone' jarred and take their underwear. Yeah,
I mean, I'm gonna assume it's something along those lines
because he was charged with theft, But I feel like
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if he was breaking into people's houses and stealing their underwear,
that would be a whole other set of charges. But
I don't know. He's facing up to five years in
jail for stealing people's underwear. Well, he and he didn't
have a It's not like it was all teenage girls
or something like that. It was just like whoever's dudes
in the neighborhood, older people. Just he had no preference,
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you know. And anyway, this is actually another point. If
you're stealing someone's underwear from their clothing line, then like
it's kind of already clean anyway, and shouldn't really have
much of the person sent on it. They're not really dirty.
I don't know. Maybe, yeah, that's the bigger question here
is where was he just having access to dirty underwear
all the time. I don't know. It's extremely disturbing. The
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pictures of it are unbelievable. Imagine coming. Of course, you're
gonna call the cops when you come across something like
that in the middle of the woods. Just there's stuff.
Probably yad story, Yeah, okay. Celebrity news. So last week,
Dave Coolier had announced that he had stage three non
Hodgkins lynd foma. And he learned of this diagnosis after
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he apparently was suffering from a bad cold and then
noticed he had swelling in his groin area. So that
got all this buzz last week about that, and then
earlier this week, his co star from Full House, John Stamos,
posted this you know photo shoot they did where John
Stamos seriously sat in a makeup chair for probably a
couple of hours and had a bald cap on to
you know, stand by his buddy that had to shave
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his head due to cancer treatment. This is like the
douchiest thing ever. I'm glad that all the comments when when?
What was it? People posted it on their Instagram. The
comments are just amazing. The top comment was like cringe
at the highest level, which I wonder I percent agree with.
I mean, I think everybody was you know, together and
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saying we understand that you're trying to stand by your friend,
but this was like the douchiest, most Hollywood way to
go about it. And I don't think anybody's even asking
him to shave his head. It's just the point that
you went so far out of your way to do
something like this. And then Dave Coolier is defending him,
saying that they're comedians and he really got a kick
out of it, and if it doesn't bother him, it
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shouldn't bother us. But I don't think a lot of
other cancer patients feel that way. So yeah, I mean
to say you're doing it in solidarity is just it's insulting, honestly. Yeah,
I mean, I just you have to understand you're gonna
get backlash when you do something like this. I mean,
not to be a total dick, but like, the picture
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looks so ridiculous, the makeup, the bald cap just looks
so weird, and I don't know what he was trying
to accomplish with it. There's this show that the girls
watch on I don't know if it's on Netflix or whatever.
It's one of those teenage drama shows, you know, and
it's about a girl that has cancer and they have
them wearing fake bald caps and all this, and I
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just feel like it's kind of tacky or something. It's
just like something you should and you shouldn't touch, right, yeah,
or a whole pretending to have can I don't know,
just like it bothers me. And I'm like a huge
full house person, so I know everything about all these
people in the show and everything. And he was always
in the show talking about how great his hair was
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and how perfect his hair was, and you're thinking when
you're looking at this, like, dude, if you really wanted
to stand in solidarity with your friend, like you couldn't
have just shaved your head. You're a guy. It would
have grown back in three months, Like relax, right, just
get you're that vain, you know, Well, yeah, I don't know.
I think I think to what you're saying, Like a
lot of people argue that with the Hollywood industry in general,
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like why wouldn't you give that role to an actual
cancer patient or does this actually have to be portrayed
in movies and cinema. I think if you want these
storylines to be realistic, sometimes it's gonna have to happen.
But you just have to think, like, he wasn't doing
a project trying to make this statement for cancer. He
was doing this photo shoot for social media, which is
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just kind of weird. Yeah it is. So let's talk
about his cancer a little bit. B cell lymphilma that
he was diagnosed with. So B cells are part of
your immune system and they're usually there to take away
bacteria or any germs that get inside of your body,
and then when they're done doing their job, they die off.
But in the case of lymphilma. These cells can end
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up growing abnormally and they proliferate, or they grow and
grow and grow really really really fast, and what happens
is they don't die off, and then they could end
up spreading to other areas of the body. So they
give chemotherapy to prevent the spread from happening. And unfortunately,
because we were just talking about those cells that grow
really fast and there's a lot of them, the same
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kind of fast growing cells are present in the follicle
of where your hair growth is, and that could also
kill those cells off too, which is why people lose
hair sometimes that are taking certain chemotherapy. So he has
stage three. It's pretty serious. They said it was pretty aggressive,
and hopefully he does. Okay, they could have just like
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left us all alone, and I don't know. But it's
just another example how these Hollywood people are just completely
out of touch with reality. Yeah, exactly. Okay, So it's
finally Wicked Week. I'm sure everybody's been seeing the commercials.
I was excited for this movie. I never saw the
musical of getting a little exhausted with the amount of
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advertising and interviews and everything with it. But out of
all these interviews came one funny tidbit so Cynthia Rivo,
who's playing Alphaba in this movie. She went on Armchair
Expert earlier this week and Dak Shephard asked her because
of her really notoriously or not notoriously, but her really
famous long fingernails, how does she wipe when she goes
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to the bathroom? And she is annoyed by the question
because apparently it comes up very often. She don't. I
don't know. I know that you're like all into this movie.
I'm just kind of like these people are fucking annoying
to me as shit, Like to just see if there
stand why they're crying every I I can't. I just can't.
They're both of them. I just don't. I just sem
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like not interested. But you know, it's it's a valid question.
People ask it to me sometimes because I have really
long nails too. But do you wipe like your asked
with your fingertips? Like, No, it's just you just put
a ball toilet paper in your hand and you just
cover your nails just like you do with your natural nails.
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It's just not that big of a deal. Can I
kind of puncture through? Though? Because yours are really wiping. No,
I don't know. I I've never had that happen before.
It's just it's just completely ridiculous, like to even bring
it up. But you know, acrylic nails. Are you know
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that you're not allowed to have them if you work
in the hospital, right or the food industry? Yeah, because
there are no there has been studies done because obviously
there's a lot of people that want to wear them,
so they do studies to prove that they're actually harboring disease.
But they definitely have found that they carry the organisms
more than natural fingernails, and even natural fingernails that are painted.
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So you're not allowed to have them if you work
in the hospital. I mean I always had them, and
I worked in the lab, but that was kind of
different because I didn't really actually see patients that I
could have got sick or whatever. But so yeah, I
mean they're there, and they could get dirt under them
and stuff, and the longer they are obviously, but it
is it is kind of an annoying question. I guess
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I could agree with her there. I just can't even
function without them. They're like a my thumb's like a
utility knife. I can't type if i'm if I don't
have them. It's just like so you just you just
get used to it and you just wipe the same
way everybody else does. It's just not that big of
a deal. Well, I think I was asking this question
when we had this story two weeks ago about the
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woman with the world's largest fingernails because her her spart
twenty four inches long, and you know what I mean,
like they curled and then you would say that, Yeah,
so somebody actually left us a comment and said that
they were, in fact twenty four feet. It was not
a typo. It was the way they were curled up
that it didn't seem obvious. But I guess when they
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cut them and then measured them out that's what they were.
That can That absolutely cannot be right. I'm just saying,
get look at stand down and measure twenty four feet out.
That's that's really frickin' far. Even if they were curled
in like perfect spirals, there's just you could see them.
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If you stretched it out, they would be the length
of two rulers. There's no way twenty four feet is ridiculous.
Maybe they meant they were twenty four feet collectively when
they were all put together, that's that could be possible.
But like twenty four feet is like a two story building.
That's just out higher than a two story building. It's
just it's just outrageous. Unless you're saying each one of
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them were cut off and then lined up in a row.
But that's why would you measure like that way? Nobody,
that doesn't even make sense. I understand that you're just
so used to having them at this point. I mean,
I can't I feel like I can't have them again.
I had gotten them for my wedding and kept them
for a couple months after. They certainly were not as
long as yours or Cynthia Rivo's, but you know, first
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you're way longer than mine. Yeah, but even putting my
contacts in was horrible. Just doing normal things, you know,
like picking your nose, just trying to get ready, to
your hair. It's it's not good. So I'm gonna say
I'm not gonna get them probably ever again. But let's
move on to Jay Leno. So he has had his
third incident in like the last two years. This guy's
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seventy four years old. He had a show in Pittsburgh
on Friday night, and he said, beforehand he went to
go get dinner, and I guess he was taking some
shortcut to the restaurant, which led him onto the sixty
foot high hill and he lost his balance and rolled
down the hill. This is this whole story is a
little odd for me. Okay, So he was staying at
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a Hampton in. Let's let's put this in perspective of
what was happening. He was staying at a Hampton in
which I'm not talking shit on because it's probably my
favorite hotel to stay at when we do road trips
because they have free breakfast in the morning. Honestly, maybe
that's why he likes It's okay, But he didn't have
a car, and the hotel staff was telling him how
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to get to wherever he was trying to go the
restaurant or whatever, and he said it was going to
be like a mile and a half walk, so he
decided to take a shortcut and just walk across this
really steep hill hill to get down there, and that's
when he fell and hit his face on a bunch
of rocks and stuff. But you know, like Jay Leno
is worth four hundred and fifty million, dollars. But listen,
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you don't got to tell me how much he's worth.
I know how much he's worth it, So I mean,
and listen, that might be why he has so much
money because he's frugal. But like you're staying at a
Hampton in you don't have a car. They're like, what
that just doesn't even make sense to me. You know
how stubborn older men are, so I can totally see
him being like, I need bare necessities. I'm not getting
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an uber or ublers pop up legs to pronounce it,
and I don't know, it just sounds it just sounds ridiculous.
But whatever, the dude, the dude, anybody would have fell down,
I know exactly once. Once you picture it, you're like, okay,
I could see. That's why the staff didn't tell him
to go that way, because you're not supposed to walk
down that, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, So anyway,
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when he was falling, he hit a bunch of rocks,
He hit his face, he hurt his eye, he broke
his wrist. It did said he lost a nail too,
which is crows. But yeah, he said he had a
show of twenty six hundred people to show that were
waiting for him, and he didn't want to not show up,
so he went to the show wearing an eyepat. And
I saw a picture of him from I guess yesterday,
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and he has this enormous bruise down the side of
his the whole half of his body looks like it's purple.
It's just so gnarly. It's just crazy because he didn't
even I mean, listen, like, I believe this because my
dad's around the same age, and this would one happen
like you fell down a sixty foot cliff and hit
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your face on rocks and you're all purple and you
can't open your eye, and you just don't even tell
anyone or get medical treatment. Like he didn't even go
to the hospital until he got back to LA. Yeah,
like probably not wise. So I mean, my first thing
would be like, Okay, he's got some kind of a
brain injury, which clearly I guess he doesn't because he's fine.
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But this guy has gotten his ass beat in the
past couple of years. Remember he burned hisself really bad
in his garage. Yeah, he was working on a car
and I guess something caught on fire and then caught
him on fire. He got really bad burn like third
degree burns. That's really bad. He probably needed to get
some skin grafts or something. Yeah. And then after that
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he crashed his motorcycle with and ended up with a
broken collarbone too, broken ribs, and two cracked knee caps. Yeah,
this guy's like nine lives over here. He had two
cracked knee caps in the last two years. It was
like me with sixty foot hill. Do you think somebody's
following him and beating them up like two crack knee caps.
Sounds like an inside job kind of with like a
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mob hit. Yeah, exactly that That's what that sounds like,
speaking of mob hits. This has nothing to do with
mother and nows death at all. But I read a
story today that in Sicily that they there was like
this real Godfather situation happened that they somebody put an
amputated horse's head on top of a businessman's house or
something like that or out front of his house. Oh
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my god, I saw that prop when I was when
we were in La I went to the Academy of
the Arts Museum whatever, the Oscars museum. They had all
they had this whole Godfather exhibition and they had the
horsehead props. Really cool. Oh that is cool. I was
sending you pictures but wherever you guys were, and it
my text you that you send me anyway, I know,
and you're missing some really hilarious So I'm just joking.
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Me and Maria's like text group thing is ridiculous. And
do you remember a couple of years ago, I by accident,
like deleted our whole entire text thing. You know how
you that happens sometimes. Yeah, I was like ruined my day,
you know what I mean, because I never delete my text.
I have so many texts in my phone, It's like
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for years and years and years of it. So I
could just go back and like read stuff really just
to pull it up for black Man. Now, I'm just joking,
but but me and Maria's like it, just do this
today when we're down the show, just sit there and
go into the images of our of our conversation and
just look at the pictures. It's it's so funny when
you do that, Uh yeah, because everybody would just be like,
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what the fuck, what the fuck? Like you can't even
imagine the variety of images in our Jetts history. Yeah,
Like you just want to show people and be like,
all right, what what do you think this picture was about?
Or something like that. All right, we're digressing freak accidents,
all right. So last month, this guy was driving his
van through the San Bernardino Mountains when suddenly these two
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boulders fell off of a cliff and crushed the car
with him inside of it. So you see, I go
on road trips sometimes and you see these signs that's
say attention falling rocks. Like, what the fuck are you
supposed to do? I don't know? And that's so scary, right,
but it's totally possible. I mean, you're driving through rocky
mountains and they put they invest all this kind of
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money in to prevent that from happening. But this, this
guy's lucky to be alive. Honestly, Yeah, he's lucky to
be alive. And you know, he was saying, so what
ended up happening was there was people driving behind him
that saw this happen, so they were quickly able to
call to get him help, but it took rescuewards hours
to get him out of the car. He was saying
that at the scene they were considering amputating his leg
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because he was losing so much blood he had, you know,
a traumatic brain injury happened from this. He eventually went
to the hospital. They were able to save his leg,
but he has to learn how to rewalk. But he
is very thankful to be alive. And I guess because
of the brain injury, he can't remember the accident at all,
or the two days before it. Yeah, so even though
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this horrible thing happened to you, at least you don't have,
you know, vivid memories of it. But he was also
saying to the reporters that apparently they had been doing
work on the cliff, I guess, and escavating, excavating rocks.
So he thought it was okay because the road was
open and he didn't think there would be any danger,
but he might he thinks that might be contributing to
what happened. So yeah, yeah, God, that's so scary. And
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what's really sad is he was planning on living in
this van while he was moving a pretty far distance,
I guess, and now he has no van. He's in
the hospital. This happened I think a month ago, and
he's still in the hospital. So so there were workers there.
You're saying he said months before there was workers there,
but because the road was open and clear, he didn't
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think anything about drug Yeah, and other cars were driving
on it. Yeah. I just was wondering if they were
actively doing work on it, because then you have to think, like,
is this something that could have been prevented? You know? Yeah,
I don't know. And I agree with you. When you
see those signs, it's like, if it's coming, it's coming,
what are you doing? Like you can't see what's coming
above you unless you have a such I just don't.
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I always thought they were funny. I'm just like, what
is the point of this? Exactly? Like attention falling rocks, Like, Okay,
so there's like this giant It just makes me think
of like a cartoon or something, this giant boulder that
like an Indiana Jones boulder thing just like coming down
in front of you, like you're you're on the road,
Like what can you do at that point? Yeah? Exactly.
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We talked about good old Susan back in July because
she was trying to get paroled after she murdered her
two children and said that you know, she had been
like carjacked by this guy. Really she pushed the car
into a lake and had strapped the kids in, so
obviously she deserves to be in jail. So she had
her parole hearing this week, and it was apparently getting
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all worked up and cried, but luckily the board unanimously
decided that she was not ready to leave jail, which
I think was the right call. There's been this video
rotating or rotating circulating online about what her sons may
have experienced. It was like a simulated video of what
they would have experience going into the water. I don't
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know if they showed that to people that were in
charge of making this decision, but it's so disturbing that
any person watching that would be like this lady intentionally
did this to her children, Like she she should never
get out of jail. Ever, I don't even know why
she's up she has the opportunity to go up for parole. Yeah,
I don't either. I don't remember what the circumstances were,
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but apparently, I mean, was she Were they saying she
was suffering from like postpartum koss or depression or something like.
I don't even really think that was a thing back then,
you know, like why she would have gotten a lesser
sentence for something like that? I guess she was twenty
two when it happened, right. I don't know exactly what
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their defense was, but obviously they proved she was guilty,
and I believe the children's father, her ex husband showed
up to the Pearle hearing and was like, she should
not get out, and he had a really you know,
good reasons for it obviously. Yeah, and you know, now
this guard that she was having sex with has come
out and said that her tears are completely fake and
that she's not capable of feeling that way naturally. Well, yes,
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she just she's just like one of these individuals that's
broken that could never be fixed kind of thing. Yeah,
So this guard came out and said that they that
she had given him oral sex two to three times,
but she never asked for anything in return. How nice.
I guess you know, he ended good for him the prison.
The prison got wind of this and then fired him,
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and he said it was not worth losing his job
over her. So as I would hope that everybody thinks that, Okay,
what's the night. I'm just like bored of talking about
certain cases because you're just like, why, like why we
shouldn't even be discussing this like you killed both of
your kids on purpose, Like you should be in jail
for the rest of your life really quick. Though. I
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noticed in her most recent mugshot that she looks like
a little like Jodie Foster. I feel like she you
play her while in a movie. Yeah maybe, I don't know.
I just I just noticed the similarity and thought it
would be a good casting call. So we'll see whatever happens.
But let's get onto this next terrific story. So over
the summer in Texas, police got a call to check
on this child that was apparently hanging out of a
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broken apartment window and there was a threat of an
aggressive dog inside of the residence. So when police got there,
they found this child alone in the apartment, just wearing
a T shirt, nothing else, and covered in feces and
an extreme diaper rash. And you know, no adult was
in sight. But there was two dogs in the residence
as well. So they got a call because nothing else
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except they someone reported that there was a child hanging
out of a broken window with dogs behind them. Yeah,
so they show up and they come to this scene,
and how did they figure out what was going on?
So basically they just you know, they were walking through
the apartment and they realized, you know, it was set
up kind of weird, like the kitchen was blocked off,
certain doors were locked, but there was no adult there.
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So they were able to get a hold of the
child's mother somehow, and then she said, well, I'm not
around because I met this guy on Hinge and I
traveled to go meet him. So that's that's what's hinge.
It's a dating app, Like it's like Matt. Yeah, it's
like one of the like ones, the like cookup site
ones or yeah. I mean you could use it for
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either or as a hookup or dating app whatever, you know.
But she met a guy on there and wanted to
go meet him, so she left her child and seriously
thought in the care of two dogs was going to
be okay because she blocked everything off. So kid's sixteen
months old. Yeah, sixteen months old, that's a baby. A baby.
So then they're like, you obviously need to come back
here because we have more questions for you, and she
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said no, I'm good. And then this was over the summer,
so she never came back, and I guess they were
having a hard time finding her. Eventually she was located
in California, and they arrested her there and brought her
back to Texas. So then they interview her and she says, oh,
I didn't leave him. It was it a him or her.
I didn't leave it him. I didn't leave him home alone.
I had a babysitter there that I had gotten on Facebook.
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So they found this woman that she said was the babysitter, right, yeah,
go and they go find her, and then this girl's like,
I haven't babysat for her for a year, and then
showed the messages between the two of them and the
last messages that were from December of twenty twenty three. Yeah,
this was serious, Like Casey Anthony vibes to me, you know, like, oh,
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I thought she was with the babysitter, and then she
completely fabricated this woman that didn't exist. I mean, this
lady did exist, but she's like I haven't talked to
her in months and months and months. She is not
putting this blame on me. So I don't know what
she was thinking. And clearly she was guilty because she
wouldn't come back. Was she on drugs or something? Like?
What is she? I don't even understand what a person's
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thinking in this situation. I don't know. She was pretty young,
in her early twenties, and it's just like, what are
you doing? Your whole life is ruined because of this.
And if you didn't think that you could take care
of the child, I'm sure there was a family more
than willing to take the child in. Just think about
a little so a sixteen month old baby is just
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really starting to walk around, and the dangers that could
have happened, Like Jesus, I can't even think about that.
But that kid can't feed themselves like anything. Obviously had
a diaper on when she left, so and ripped it
off himself because there was poop all over the place
and stuff. But he had rash because he had the
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diaper on for an extended period of time with all
that stuff. I mean, that's it's just like the saddest
thing ever. And just think about the cops that are
walking into that situation. They could tell that the house
was staged for a child to be like semi protected
in there. Like imagine just showing up and seeing all
the doors shut and some food thrown on the couch
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for the like, No, it's so sad. It's just so
so sad. So obviously the child's been putting the child
protective services, because what are you gonna do. You can't
you certainly can't give a kid back to a person
that's comfortable leaving them. No, I mean, I I don't
even know if the kid should ever go back to
this lady as she you know what I mean. And
let's say, let's say, for argument's sake, that she really
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did think that the kid was being cared for by Like,
let's say she this alleged babystater did come over and
she left when the babysater was there, and then the
babysayter did this. Even when they call you and they
tell you what's happening to your kid, you're just like, well,
that's your problem, Like, yeah, no, the only thing I
can think is that that's that she's either severely mentally
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ill or that she's on jugs or something. I just
can't imagine how the dude thinks that she's on the
date with Like what would you think if you He
might not know or care, he might have not even existed, Like,
you just don't even know what's going on over there.
So all right, in Georgia. This ten year old boy
was walking to a store less than a mile from
his house. Apparently these you know, people living nearby saw
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the boy walking, called police asked for them to check
on him. He said that his mother was taking his
other sibling to a doctor's appointment and he was just
walking to the store. Didn't see the big deal. And
then they go to the house and arrest the mom
for child and endangerment. I just I'm not understanding fully
what's happening with this story, Like, is that it so
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on the surface level what we know that appears to
be it, and the mother is out on bail right now,
but she is possibly facing jail time. And she's saying,
and you could also see it in the bodycam footage too,
that she is extremely confused when she's being arrested and
she didn't even know what she was being arrested for.
And I think at some point she says, I didn't
think it was illegal for a child to walk to
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the store, and then the cop says it is when
they're ten? Is it because my kids walk to the store, Like, well,
so I look this up, So I just don't know.
It's just nuts. So the Georgia Division of Family and
Children's Services says that children age nine to twelve can
be left alone for brief periods of time, which is
less than two hours, depending on their maturity level. I
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don't know who's determining that, so I don't know if
that just means alone in the house or alone to
do whatever they want for two hours. But New Jersey
doesn't specify. It's up to the family, and New Jersey
will only step in if they think a child's being
abused or neglected or they're in harms way. I just
don't understand this at all. I mean kids, and I'm
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not like a huge person like I let my kids
walk up here and back and they have to. There's
all like all these roles and stuff like that. They're
not just like Roman the neighborhood. But there certainly are
lots of children in my neighborhood that are roaming the neighborhood.
We just live in a town that you could walk in.
I see kids around all the time. I would never
even think to call the cops because they're just You're
just assuming they're walking from their friend's house or to
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their parents' house, or to school or something. Just That's
why I just don't understand what's going on a ten
year old. It seems like a lot of people feel
the same way as you. But then of course there's
a lot of people that are like, I would never
do it because my kid could get hit by a
car or taken by somebody, and obviously that could be
a concern. But was the kid like walking on a highway.
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There's no clarity in that for a mere ka some
weird like a place that there shouldn't be any pedestrians walking,
that the kid was in danger. I don't know, it
just seems I agree with you, It just seems bizarre
like this child's He also turned eleven right after his
mom got arrested, so he was basically eleven when this happened,
which I don't know. I mean, I feel like I
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walked home from school starting yeah, around that age. So
my school doesn't have buses. Every child either gets picked
up or walks home from school. Most schools in our area,
because the towns are so small, don't have buses. It's
so weird. It I just feel like there has to
be more to this story. I mean, I know, like
when I I don't want to think about it when
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I was a kid, because when I was a kid,
it was just like, Okay, you came home from school
and you reported back when it got dark out, and
we could have been a whole town over and nobody
would have thrown where we were. That was like my
life growing up. And now I know people are a
little bit more. They're on top of their kids. They
don't want their kids just like roam in the neighborhood
and this and that. But like people still do it
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all the time. You're supposed to let your kids. That's
how they get freedom and stuff, is to start letting
them do things by themselves. If I's not like a
five year old walking around alone, that's a different story.
But you have a ten year old that knows how to,
you know, fully talk and be a person. So I
just I understand that it's up to the person. Like
some I have friends in between. I always feel like
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I'm a pretty middle of the road person for everything.
But I have friends that like they don't really care
what their kids do. And then I have friends that
don't don't let their children out of the door, you
know what I mean. There's a variation. But and you
if you're one of those people that don't let your
kids out of the door, just respect that other people do.
I just I don't know. I feel like something else
(32:24):
is gonna come out about this because it just it
just seems scary, especially in aren't weren't they in Georgia
or something? Yeah, they're in Georgia. I'm wondering, is it
like more rural there, Like I'm not sure. I'm wondering
if it was a case where maybe they picked the
kid up and he said something else that was going
on in their house. Yeah, I don't really know. You
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just don't really know because to me, I agree with you.
This seems like there's more to this story that we
don't know about. So so many children this age do it.
It's not a one off situation. Okay, Medical news. So
this lady went on a trip to Turkey and decided
while she was there she was gonna get a tattoo,
and after the tattooer did the outline, she said she
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started feeling like she was going to pass out. Eventually,
she said she couldn't really see anything and she threw up.
But the tattooer was just telling her that, you know,
maybe her blood sugar was low. So the next day
she woke up and her leg was swollen twice the
size as normal. She said, it was red raw and
looked like there was blisters on my tattoo. There was
fluid behind it, which then turned out to be this
(33:26):
bacterial infection. So the whole point of this article is
that she's saying to quote, check the tattooer's credentials, like
do your research. Are there credentials to being a tattooer?
I'm assuming, Well, I don't know in Turkey, but I
think here do you not have to be licensed in
some type of way? I don't think so, do you?
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I feel like you have to. I don't think you
can just do it. It's like when you're a barber, hairdresser,
you have to be licensed. I don't think so you have.
You'd certainly have to be licence in every state if
you're not hair, yeah, cut hair. But I don't know
about I don't know about the tattooing situation. Well, I'm
sure my friends that are tattooers full time in I
(34:12):
never think I never When have you ever heard of
any tattoo or going for licensure and taking a test
and shit, I've never heard that. I just can't imagine that.
You can't working with you know, you're working with bodily fluids.
I just can't imagine you could just roll up and
do it. Yeah, I think that's like anyway, whatever it seems.
(34:34):
She got cellulitis, which is an infection that's kind of
not on the skin. It's deeper in the skin and
in the underlying soft tissue. But you have to think
about it. A tattoo is a needle that you're essentially
or a set of needles that you're puncturing whatever is
on the surface of that needle deep into your tissue.
The medical people that were treating this woman said that
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it appears that the tattooer went too deep. So when
you get tattooed, it's only supposed to go through the
top layer of the skin, the epidermis, and just like
a millimeter or a millimeter and a half into the
top layer or the darmis of the skin if you
push it, and you could push it way further down
and then it could go into the deep soft tissue.
But not only are you going to screw the tattoo up,
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it could it could blow out, It could make the
ink kind of bleed underneath the skin and it raises
the risk for infection, but you also are reaching blood
vessels under there, so then you're kind of placing any
bacterior or anything that's right on the skin, like directly
into your vascular system, and it's just going to be
able to easily bring bacteria all over your body. And
(35:38):
the tattoo shop was contacted and they said she had
an infection because she put a sock on immediately after
getting it done in the shop and they have her
on camera doing that. They also said that she wasn't
feeling well and they kept checking with her and she
kept maintaining that she was okay, so they did. She
did say something in the article about saying that she
felt like she was going to pass out and something
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about blood sugar. So this and this is like a
really important note if you have diabetes. For sure, it's
it's just a really bad idea to create a wound
on your leg if you have poor circulation and you
have uncontrolled blood sugars and stuff like that. So I
don't they didn't say anything about that, but they did
(36:20):
say something about blood sugar, so like this could just
potentially be not the tattoo or's fault at all if
she does have an underlying health condition that would prevent
it from healing properly. Yeah, and I guess at first
it was getting so bad that they were potentially telling
her that she might have to get her foot amputated.
But they ended up working it out and she's fine.
(36:41):
So it probably looks like shit though. No, the pictures
of the infect the tattoo looked disgusting. I was shivering
thinking about it, you know, because when you have a
tattoo and a tealing, it's already gross, and to think
you have an infection on top of it, it's just nasty. Well,
check your credentials, all right. Well last Tuesday, I guess
(37:01):
the other day we talked about winter penis. So now
we have some tips on how to winterproof your vagina
this holiday season. There. Yeah, there's a legit article talking
about winter proofing your vagina, and it's just talking about
how the season could be very cold and dry, and
how you should keep yourself healthy both inside and out
(37:24):
to prevent yourself from getting any kind of infections down
there or anything. So one of the biggest things they
bring up is that holiday parties that a lot of
times people are eating a lot of high sugary foods
and also drinking alcohol, which could really harbor bacteria growth
increase bacterial growth. Especially if you are diabetic, you're at
(37:46):
an increased risk for yeast infections, so that could happen if,
you know, if you're drinking a lot and you're eating
a lot of sugary foods and things like that. I
don't know, I never really thought of, you know, I'm
gonna turn the faucet off outside so it doesn't freeze
winter proofing that. I never thought of winter proofing my vagina,
(38:09):
but I guess in theory it makes sense because you
just want to make sure that you you know, with
it being so dry and stuff, you want to make
sure you stay hydrated because you don't want to throw
the pH of your vage off for your vulva, and
then you could have an overgrowth which is called back
to your vaginosis, which could lead to kind of a
foul smell, itching and stuff like that. So just make
(38:31):
sure you winterize your vagina. Yeah. It also brought up
the point that a lot of people during this time
of year do like long hot baths and that you know,
sitting in those for long periods of time, or added
these like bath bombs and have all these artificial perfumes
and they could also disrupt your natural pH balance and
cause issues. They're also suggesting that you should wear breathable
all caught in underwear so you don't have extra moisture
(38:54):
build up. So I guess what's the lesson we're learning?
Stay hydrated? You're this v Giana blade. I just thought
this was just good tips all round. This is what
you always hear about, like not getting yeast infections and stuff.
I never really thought about it being a specific thing
to winter. But no, but it says experts recommend experts
(39:16):
recrament choosing natural underwear, cutting down on perfume products, balancing
your diet, and hydrating to keep your system happy through
the cold dark season. So keep your vaginas healthy out there,
all right, let's move on to the story out of
the UK. So this young couple had a baby and
afterwards they submitted their child's birth certificate to the registration office,
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but they didn't notice until after that the child's gender
was listed incorrectly. Yeah, so the family went to them
and said, hey, you listed their gender incorrectly and they
just were like, yeah, we can't change it. We're gonna
put a little note in the margin, and it was
seemingly like they submitted it. We're walking out, realized the mistake,
(39:58):
turned right around, said hey, we just noticed this error,
and they're like, too late, you already gave it to us,
and they're just like, no, we're not fixing it. So
that's going to cause the kid problems. And this is
in the UK, right in England, Yeah, so I feel
like in America though, that could cause serious problems. I
(40:20):
guess they were saying that the little margin notes are
overlooked often and that could be an issue when you're
talking about like getting drivers' licenses and passports and things
like that, that that could be like why can't they
just change It's Well, apparently another family had an issue
with this too, about I think a year beforehand, and
they were able to fix it, and then the agency
(40:42):
is saying this is no longer a fix, so you
can't do that anymore, Which why can't you just do it?
I mean, if you have all the proof you need
and if you literally just turned it in, they should
give you like a twenty four to forty eight hour window.
Why did they turn it in with the wrong sex.
Apparently it was an error at the hospital. Who I
don't know who, I don't know who generates them. Is
(41:03):
it a nurse or is like who makes the birth
certificate at the hospital. I don't know honestly, whoever filled
it out at the hospital put the wrong one by accident.
And they said because of having a newborn and barely
sleeping and just being super sleeped, I've raising this baby.
They just they just didn't notice it. They were like,
we checked the spelling of her name and all of that,
but we just didn't even think to look at it.
(41:25):
And that's what happened to the other couple too. They
said that when they over, when they looked over the paperwork,
they were really just focusing on making sure their names
were all spelled correctly. They just didn't even think to
look at the gender. I'm curious if any of you
guys have ever had a misspelling or something weird on
your birth certificate and if you gave you problems throughout
your life. I feel like this is really reminded me
(41:48):
of when I went to Social Security to change my name.
I think it really depends on the person you have
working that day. Because when I, you know, went to
go change my name legally, I really wanted to make
my maiden name my middle name, and the lady was
just like, you can't do that, and it took me
a long time to get the appointment. I had to
wait there for a few hours, and I was like,
(42:08):
I don't care anymore. I just want this to be
over with. But then everybody else I talked to it
was like, that's not right. So I don't know if
eventually I don't try to fix it. But I don't
know what the rules are as far as that. But
I would say that you don't think that She's probably right.
I feel like you would have to. You can't just
like go to Social Security and be like, you know what,
I'm changing my name now. No, but if you have
(42:29):
all the correct forms, Like when I had the form
that I was married and changing my last name because
I was married and I wanted to shift my middle
name to my made a name to my middle name,
and instead of just being like it doesn't work like that,
like you need another form or you have to make
a different kind of appointment, she just said, we don't
do that like, Okay, well I just want this to
(42:51):
be over with. So that's that's where we land on that.
So I could see you know, whoever working that day
just either being lazy or a Karen and just being
like I'm not doing this. Yeah, I don't know. All right,
other death news. All right, So in Georgia, this photographer
had gone to this abandoned funeral home that burned down
earlier this year. He was planning to take pictures of
(43:12):
the abandoned building, and when he was in there, he
came across human remains, ashes, bills, and more So this
maybe I asked Gabe about this question actually because this
made me think about a whole bunch of other stuff.
So he went in this building that was burned down,
but the part of the building that they're showing looks
like it probably had water damage from the fire, but
(43:34):
not like actual everything wasn't charred and like you would
think if you're looking inside of building that was caught
on fire. And not only did he find those things,
which I don't think that necessarily, some of those things
that he found are weird to find in a funeral home,
like urns filled with ashes and stuff like that, no,
and really like if they found fetuses. I mean, we
(43:58):
had funeral directors come pick go fetuses from the from
the more all the time, so because some people get
them get burials and cremations for them. So I don't know,
like what the deal is with that. It's kind of
more concerning that there were bank statements and there were
of people. There were actual like financial statements of people
(44:20):
that had funerals with like critical information on it, like
credit card numbers and addresses and all those different things.
And that's why I asked Gabe. I was just like,
if there's ever a situation, let's say, for an example,
like a doctor's office catches on fire and it has
people's personal information in it, what's the level of security
(44:43):
for that? Because when you when you board up a
building like that's what happens. People break in and they
they steal stuff, or they take pictures or they do whatever.
Like right, Well, I guess the problem was is he
was saying that he had photographed other funeral homes before
that were in similar states, and he definitely had come
across earned or ashes before. But I guess the amount
(45:05):
he said he found thirty earns filled with human ashes
so that's kind of a lot. And then yeah, you
have all this private information. Apparently this building was up
foreclosure auction before it caught on fire. I don't know
what the process is between that. If clearly they were
struggling with their business and closing it down, but does
that mean you just leave everything inside? I know a
(45:27):
lot of abandoned buildings tend to have but even if
it was in foreclosure, they could have still been occupying it,
right or possibly. Mean, I don't know how that works.
I don't know how it works when it's going up
for sale. I'm thinking of this documentary I watched about
one of those detention schools that you know, they would
send the bad kids. Tom and the kids making what
(45:50):
they were adults now, but they had gone there as children.
But the adults making the documentary went in the school
and found all the cabinets filled with paperwork of every
student that had gone there. The building had been abandoned
for years. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I was thinking.
But he said that sometimes if it's like if sometimes
the building could have it boarded up and then hire
(46:10):
someone to actually guard it while they're doing investigation and stuff.
And but I guess he was saying, if there's like
really important information, they should be able to lock that
should all be locked up anyway, maybe because think about
like people could break in any time, it should be
locked up. Or whoever is foreseeing the foreclosure should be
(46:31):
identifying that these are sensitive documents, or maybe just nobody
cares so so I mean, I guess so this photographer
saying he found this stuff but that we didn't really
get any kind of I'm assuming that they're going to
send it to a medical examiner's office or something and
try to get it back to the people that it
belongs to. What happened was the people maybe didn't pay
(46:55):
for their cremation and then never picked up their remains.
It doesn't necessarily have to be something shady. I mean,
I'm sure it could be, but yeah, I guess the
police said where they're leaving it is they're going to
try to investigate why everything was left in there, and
I guess they must have a process. If a building
goes in foreclosure with everything thing still in it, what
happens to all the materials. I would think that records
(47:17):
would either get burned or stored somewhere else. I don't
know what they're gonna do with human remains. I would assume,
like we talked about with other unclaimed people, they would
go to the medical examiner for a brief period of
time and then be put in a mass grave. I
don't really know. Yeah, all right, let's move on to
questions of the day. Every Friday at the at Mother
Knows Death Instagram account, we put a story up and
(47:38):
you guys could ask us whatever question you want. Were
you fascinated with death as a kid. No, I don't
think so well, I mean to what extent, Like everyone
has some curiosity, but I wasn't like, like, were you
watching true crime like I was when I was a
little kid with you? Or I don't really know if
(48:01):
there was anything I'm trying to think of, like what
was that out there that was like that? There was
always like twenty twenty with Barbara Walters like stuff like that,
but there wasn't. I don't really think there was true
crime shows like that too much out there when I
was younger, because I guess No, I did pregnant with me,
(48:21):
it was OJ so that was kind of like the
first really sensationalized thing, right, Yeah, But I was already
a teenager by that point. But I mean, yeah, like
I of course I was into OJ, but like everyone was.
I don't think I had a specific I just I
was more interested in I was talking about this in
a post I wrote in the Grosser Room the other
day about I was talking about this this acne drug
(48:44):
called acutane and what damage it would do to you
if you were taking it when you got pregnant, and
showing some photographs of that. And I was thinking about
that because one of my friends growing up that I'm
still friends with today, she used to take it when
we were teenagers, and I remember her showing me the
(49:06):
pamphlets and saying like, this is so crazy. They have
me on birth control and I got to take a
pregnancy test every month, and they just really keep emphasizing
they don't want me to get pregnant, and they're showing
She showed me this pamphlet that said, you know, don't
get pregnant, with all these drawings of all the different
things that could happen to the fetus if it was
exposed to the drug, and I'd remember being like, oh
(49:27):
my god, I want to see what this looks like.
So bad, Like in real life. I don't want to
see a drawing of it. So stuff like that for sure,
just like really interested in different things like that. And
even when I went to hair school for a little
bit and we were learning about all these crazy diseases
you could get for your skin and your hair and
your nails and stuff, they don't show any photos of it,
and I'm like, oh my god, like what does that
(49:47):
look like? And this was before Google was the thing
that I could just like go home and look at it.
So that kind of stuff always interests me. I guess,
all right, do you collect any specimens from animals? I
have a couple, I guess I have a couple of
I have like a two headed pig or something like that,
a couple of wet specimens like that, and then I
(50:10):
have a bunch of taxidermy, but not a lot. But
I have stuff I have. I have, Yeah, I mean
I have some cool stuff and realize times. I saw
Lake City last night. They were at some like hat
Chop and this lady had a raccoon penis bone on
her head. Oh yeah, he used to have a couple
of those. Yeah, they're like silly, They're like they're just
(50:32):
like easy they're they're like basic starter taxidermy items. Yeah,
penis bones from a raccoon. They're called vaculum bones there.
Every animal doesn't have them, obviously, humans don't have them.
I think whales have them too, and they're like huge,
but they're they're they're a little interesting thing. But if
(50:54):
you go to any taxidermy place, they sell them at
the counter where you pay. They're just like they're just
super common. They're just like, yeah, they're just like getting
like a pen with a dinosaur at the dinosaur museum
or something like. They're just like a time. It doesn't
all right last What day is more fun in our family?
Christmas Day or Christmas Eve? I don't know, it just depends.
(51:20):
I guess we just had a lot going on. Like
I host so many people at my house on Christmas Eve,
so I feel like there's just, you know, a lot
happening all day, me getting my house ready, cooking everything,
and then everybody comes over and then it's just like chaotic.
And then right when that's done, I go to your house,
I help you set up for the kids, and then
(51:40):
we barely sleep. With the exception of last year, which
we already said, we got plenty of sleep because we
were done so early. And then Christmas morning, you know,
we have breakfast like Christmas morning, Yeah, because it's because
the kids are little, so watching them open their presence
and stuff is always of course, I always feel like
I'm like hung over or something because I'm so tired,
(52:01):
but nothing's better and that's like the whole part for me,
is just watching the little kids open the presence. You know,
nothing's better than the post Christmas breakfast nap every year.
That's that's the high of min day. No, yeah, I
like both, I feel like, but yeah, there is something
really special about watching them open all their presence and
I know we'll continue that on when I have kids too,
(52:22):
and it'll just like be this fun cycle that we
always have every morning, every Christmas morning. So I like both,
but I probably say Christmas Day morning is my favorite.
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