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Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk.

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Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started
with the story of the day. As usual, we have
a completely unbelievable story to start the show off. So
earlier this year, an inmate at a Miami prison got pregnant,
and you know, everybody was really confused about how because
when she first entered the prison, she was not pregnant,
and I think there was an assumption that there was

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a guard. I mean, that's not like that wouldn't be
a unique situation. People get pregnant by guards a lot.
So they were really having a hard time finding out
how she got pregnant at first. And then you know,
they made the discovery that she formed this relationship with
a man that had a cell on the floor above her,
and they were communicating through the vents. And then at

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some point they figured out that they could drop tiny
objects through the vents and it would land into her cell,
and so at some point they had a discussion about
having a baby and it kind of just went from there.
So explain exactly how this happened. So I guess this
guy started masturbating into saran wrap. He wrapped it up

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really thin and put it inside of a cigarette wrapping,
which then he dropped down. He put inside of a
pen and then dropped it through the vent down to her.
She had one of those applicators that you used to
put like a monastat in your vage. You ever use

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one of those or see one of those things, Yeah,
it's almost like a tampon applicator of sorts, and put
it inside of her vadge with the semen in there,
and basically artificially inseminated herself and she got pregnant. It's
just like kind of unbelievable. I mean, they're saying they're

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calling it like the virgin Mary or baby essentially because
they've never met, you know, they were going back trying
to figure out how this happened. And the two of
them have never been in a position to meet, let
alone be in a position to have sex, right, So
of course this was very confusing and people were saying
this was unlikely, but it's possible. I have so many questions. First,

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I didn't even realize that male and females were housed
in the same building. I thought they had like completely
different facilities. They were at so that's one, and then two,
this is a known thing that they have relationships through
the toilets and the events, right, yeah, So like why
are they allowing it if they know about it? Right,

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If they really don't want these people to be communicating,
I don't think they could do anything about it. I
think it's the structure of the building that allows them
to do it. And think about it, if you're sitting
in a room all day with nothing to do, you're
gonna get creative, right, Like, you have literally nothing occupying
your vine, So even you know, and then putting two

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of these minds together is just not a good idea.
I mean, this is how people escape from jel and
all that sort of thing. So I don't even know
why they're allowing it, but I think it's kind of
amazing that they cheap up with this idea and it
actually worked. And I know that they're saying it's rare,
but like, no, it really isn't. It's artificial insemination. And

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on top of that, you have like the freshest semen
ever that you're doing it with. It's not like you're
you have a frozen one or you have to do
it like from a donor or something and wait, like
there's no laps time, it's fresh. It's like, why is
this any different than going to the doctor's office and
getting artificially inseminated. I know they use a different tool

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that really squirts it up there, like a syringe like thing.
In fact, did you know that they have it at
home kits to do insemination at your house? Oh? No,
I don't think I realized that. Yeah, if you're like
having a difficult time getting pregnant, that's one of the
things that they say might help. And they've had a
sixty seven percent success rate. But which is you would
say that? No, it's it's high, That's what I'm saying.

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I know a person that's had this done and it
was pretty successful for them because they have a child now,
So like it works. Yeah, it's not out of the question.
I want to know though, how Like I thought, so
they're both in jail for murder, right, okay, yeah, and
like how do they have things like pens and cigarette
wrappers and saran wrap and tampon applicators like or monistat

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applicators or whatever they have, Like, how do they even
have access to all the stuff if they're in prison.
I can see the monaster because they might offer that
as a medication if Yeah, I just think that that
was monitored in a medical setting in the prison. I'm
not sure. I know there's verses there and everything. People

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sneak cell phones in, they have all this type of stuff,
like they find the way. I'm telling you, like I
always am saying this about these great painters, right, like Michaelangelo. Like,
of course Michaelangelo was this incredible painter. There was nothing
else to do. There was no phones, so all he
had was time. All these people just can't say that though,
because there were millions of people around at that time

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that weren't doing shit, just like now. So it's like
it's it's there. There is some level of talent there. Okay,
But I agree with you that this is a conversation
I have with the kids all the time that they
need to be bored more because that's how you figure
out like what you're good at. Right, Yeah, but okay,
so they're bored and they're really they're really good at this.
It just I just can't even imagine being in such

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a situation that you want to have a baby so
bad that you just don't even care like she doesn't
even know what he looks like unless he wrote to
her in one of these letters and said, like, oh,
I I'm five foot six and I have brown hair
and brown eyes. Like but it's kind possibly know about them.
It could really be the ultimate catfish because you could
say whatever you want. I mean, you can't see the

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person you're talking through event. It's almost like the concept
of this show Love is Blind, where they're talking and
they can't see each other and they see if they're
forming this relationship, and then they go for it and
try to get married after if they decide they like
each other. It's almost that the same principle. I actually
wonder if they watch that show and she got the

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idea from that. I'm more impressed that she knew how
to take the semen and artificially inseminate yourself. Well, that
is that really that smart? Though? I mean like a
painted like that's what happens when you have sex. She
just was trying to assimilate it. I think. I don't
think it's like mind blowing that she was that smart
that she figured it out, But more importantly, why did

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she want to get pregnant like they she's in jail
for life or at least a long time because she
murdered someone, Right, what happens to that baby? Does it
automatically get put up for adoption or can one of
her family members keep that baby? My understanding of that
is that if you have a family member, well, typically
if a female inmate was pregnant, it would be not

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with another inmate. So I think in a standard situation,
the father or the father's family would take responsibility for
the child. But what I'm gathering from I don't even
have real knowledge of this. What I'm gathering from like
prison documentaries of wats and stuff, is that you would
either get a family member to take custody or so

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that you would then have access to the kid when
you get out. But I don't know, depending on the
severity of the crime, if that's allowed or what. I'm
sure something smart actually, because it's like, oh, have this
baby and let someone else do all the dirty work
of getting this baby to be like a you know,
a ten year old, and then when the kid's awesome
and older, just be like, all right, I'm getting out

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now I'm your mom. Well, I wonder if I wonder
if Elizabeth Holmes from fair and nose tried to do that.
You know, she's like the blood testing fraud chick. So
she got pregnant two times during her right before her
trial and during her trial. I think they were hoping
she was gonna get a lesser sentence. And now it's like,
you just had two babies and they're gonna be Lilyan
and Luccia's age by the time she gets out of jail.

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Did she get pregnant by some billionaire like Hotel Air
So when they have their visits then they can have sex.
So this happened. This probably happens more frequently than we
even know about. If people are allowed to have visits
and have sex on those visits, especially like women of
childbearing age, it probably happens. Well, she got she was

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out on bail, so she wasn't getting conjugal visits. But yeah,
I definitely think people can get pregnant via conjugal visits,
which is the whole concept of This is very fascinating.
Were we just talking about jail stuff last week or yeah,
women that are attracted to prisoners and stuff. I feel
like this needs to be an external exam of some
sort where we break down all these different components because

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it just keeps coming up. Well, how terrible of a
person is this woman like you? Okay, so you murdered
someone and this guy murdered someone, and you thought the
best idea was to bring this like innocent child into
the world, into this life where it doesn't have either
parent because you're both in jail maybe for the rest
of your lives, and you both are are convicted murderers

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like that kids like like fucked. Really. I don't think
the average person that is, you know, committing murder and
going to jail for it, is thinking about what their
child because of the well being of their child. They
clearly have no regard for human life. I mean they
took a human life, which is why they're in a facility. Yeah,
that's true. Also, I want to say, this jail is

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pretty nice. It's right next to the Miami Airport and
it's only a couple of blocks from the beach, So
I think, yeah, but like, who cares. I wonder if
they could see the beach out of the window. Well,
there is a certain era at the beach that that
would be nice to have out of your windows, you know, Yeah, definitely.
I mean I was blown away by this. I don't know.
I think it's funny. They're calling it the Virgin Mary baby, like.

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I don't know. I just thought it was hilarious. So
how did they figure it out? Did she admit to it?
I guess she, I guess at first, I don't know.
It seemed at first that she wasn't really being open
about it because she didn't want to get the guy
in trouble, But then eventually she confessed to it. I mean,
is he gonna get in trouble? I don't understand that, Ike,
he get in trouble for you? If they're having a relationship.

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I think this is the most extreme form of having
a relationship in jail. They just want some human contact.
They figured out a way. It's kind of the prison's
fault for not monitoring them, and that's that. And the
baby was born. Good for them. Congrats. Celebrity news. Oh
my god, guys, I am totally heartbroken. A bunch of

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people sent me this story over the weekend that the
former My Chemical Romance drummer has been found dead. So
right now, it looks like somebody had called animal control
because he had a couple of dogs, and it seems
like they were barking a lot, and maybe a neighbor
or something noticed that nobody was taking care of them,
and when they got to the house, they found his
body poorly, badly decomposed on the ground, so they don't

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suspect foul play or anything. I think he was really
open about having suicidal ideation, so I think that's where
they're leaning right now. But so I'm not sure about
the suicidal ideation thing because I have no interest in
my chemical romance whatsoever. And I never heard about this
guy until today, but I did read that he had

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this serious injury in two thousand and six where he
was burned during a filming of a music video, and
he had such bad burns, third degree burns, which went
into him getting a really bad infection, and then he
was hospitalized and he was just in a lot of
pain and dealing with complications from those burns. So a
lot of times if someone suffers a really bad medical

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mishap like this, and also is I mean, that's painful
on top of just being in and out of the
hospital and medications and this and that, that could also
just affect your mental health obviously, And he also I
don't know if he had any lasting complications from these burns,
but he could have died of a natural disease as well. Well, yeah,

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I totally can see that happening. I think the timing.
You know, they just announced a couple of weeks ago,
they're having this giant stadium tour next summer where they're
touring for the anniversary of their Black Parade album, which
he had joined the band in two thousand and four
after they released their second album, but he wasn't the
you know, he wasn't the drummer on that album. He

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came in afterwards, so the Black Parade was really his
first contribution to the band beyond just playing songs they
had already written. And he got fired from the band
at some point day cited creative differences. I don't think
really anybody outside of their inner circle knows the real
reason why he got fired. But I don't think if you're,
you know, dealing with depression and suicidal thoughts, that you

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see this major project you worked on is going on
this massive tour and you're not being included in it.
I mean, I was just talking to my husband asking
if he thought he was gonna be playing, but they
never said he was going to be joining the tour.
So I do think it's really interesting, but I don't know.
It's just really sad. He was last seeing alive on
November the fourth, so I think they're gonna assume he

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died around then. If he was really badly decomposed. Well,
it's it's sad when anybody's found dead days after they die,
because it's just like nobody's you're not talking to someone
on a daily basis that would notice that something was
wrong for that many days in a row. And also
think about this, like if he died in the house
and he had dogs living there and there was no

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food for them, guess what they were eating. Yeah, I mean,
I can't even imagine what that looks like. It must
be horrible. I wonder how often Animal Control stumbles upon
situations like that. Oh yeah, I mean it happens. It
definitely happens. I hear about it often. It just it's
really tragic. He was forty four years old. It's really young.

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It's unfortunate it's coming out right after they announced this tour.
I guess we just don't know what really happened at
this time, but they definitely said they don't suspect any
foul play. So yeah, I mean they'll do an autopsy
and see, like if the dogs were eating on him,
that could be a problem for the autopsy because I
even have a case in the gross room of a

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person that they weren't able to determine his cause of
death because it was not dogs, it was cats ate
so much of his body that his heart and lungs
were completely gone, so they couldn't really tell if he
had a heart attack or whatever. But so yeah, they'll
do an autopsy and possibly be able to determine because
if it was a suicide or gunshot wound or hanging situation,

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whatever could have been, then then you know that could
be seen as well. All right, let's move on to
the next one. So last August, former Packers line back
Brady Papinga and his wife had brought their seventeen year
old son to the hospital. He was having chest beans
and breathing issues, and they said for a couple of
days he was drifting in and out of consciousness, he

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was having struggle, he was struggling to breathe, and despite
being monitored regularly by doctors, they just kept thinking that
he was having panic attacks. But that didn't seem to
be the case. Yeah, so now him and his wife
are suing the hospital claiming medical malpractice, and after reading
the details of this case, if they are how he's
telling them, I one hundred percent support this because this

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is just like totally sloppy. This kid is seventeen years old.
He goes to the hospital with shortness of breath and
difficulty breathing, and at first they said that he was
having asthma, and then they said that he was having
panic attacks. At some point he was put into the
ICU and kept falling in and out of consciousness. I

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don't even understand how they he would make it all
the way from the emergency room to the ICU without
further testing being done to see exactly what was going
on with this kid. But he ended up dying, right, Yeah,
They did the autopsy and he had a freaking pulmonary embolism,
which is one hundred percent treatable if it's recognized early.

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And this kid just didn't. He didn't have to die
like this. It's just it's so terrible and what hold
on is that? What is that for? Like everybody that
doesn't know what a pulmonary so a pulmary embolism is
when there is abnormal blood clots in your body, particularly
most commonly in your legs, and they could clot up

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inside of the veins inside of your legs, and then
when once that clock gets big, it could kind of
like chunks of it could break off and go up
to your heart. So the veins in your body, around
your whole entire body, especially the ones in your legs
or wherever, right, they're bringing blood back from your feet

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back up to your heart to get more oxygen. Right,
So they bring those clots back up to the heart.
And then when those clots get into the heart, they
go to go into the lungs to get the oxygen again,
and they get stuck because they're really thick and big,
and it could cause sudden death. He could have been
having small pieces of these clots break off for days,

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which was giving them the difficulty breathing, but it wasn't
enough to make them drop dead right off of the bat. Now,
this is it's a really scary things, and I've seen
it on autopsy a bunch of times. I could see
why doctors weren't thinking this when this kid went in,
Because he's seventeen years old and a seemingly healthy mail, right,

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and just it's not common. It happens in very specific
sub groups of people that have specific things. For example,
remember when you were taking birth control and it told
you like not to smoke because you had an increased
risk of blood clots stuff like that, Like smokers people
on certain kinds of birth control pills are. So that
would be women, especially, Like if it was a seventeen

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year old female who was on birth control, you would
be like, that would be the first thing the doctor
would be thinking. Right, there's other things like cancer. Just
there's different kinds of things, blood cliding disorders, which I
won't be surprised if we find out that that's what's
wrong with this kid, because he's just not in the

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demographics so to speak, of a person that would have
a pulmonary embolism. However, that being said, I would think
that if you went to the emergency room and was
even admitted, not even to the ICU, but the hospital,
that they would be trying to figure out exactly what
was causing him to not be able to breathe, because
they wouldn't just put you in the ICU because you're

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saying you can't breathe. They have to have some kind
of measurable tests to say this person is in medical
distress and they need to be monitored more often in
the ICU. Right, So, I don't even know what steps
or whatever, but just I can't even believe that they
didn't pick this up. And I think that the parents

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are in their They're totally in the right to be suing,
and I guess they might do more information to find
out exactly what happened with this kid. Another thing to
consider is that COVID sometimes has been known to cause
blood clots, and also the vaccine as well, so there
are other things to consider that might put someone in

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that kind of a group. But still we're not even
we're not even hearing about that a ton a super
time with younger people like this. So it just has
to be something that's you would hope they found working
him up properly at the hospital, and how like would
it be common if somebody was in the ICU and
they were playing it off as panic attacks. I don't know.

(19:51):
I don't I've never been in the ICU taking care
of patients. I just don't. I can't imagine that there's
not tests that are being done that could see that
there was a problem. Like, I just can't wrap my
brain around it. I'll call Annette later and ask her
what she thinks about it, because she works in the ICU.

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I just I don't understand how you're diagnosing someone with
asthma and putting them in the ICU without working it
up further. I just I just can't wrap my brain
around it. I don't know. So I think he's totally
in the right though. And another thing to consider, which
is something I hate to even say, but like this
guy is he's a famous football player, right, so there

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might have been a whole bunch of other steps skipped
in between, because we know that the VIP people always
get the worst treatment ever because people freak out. Nurses,
doctors and all they freak out their starstruck whatever, and
they skip normal steps of what they would do. And
they might have even pushed this kid up to the
ICU just because he is a VIP, which they didn't
maybe even think he needed to go up there. You know,

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I just don't know what the deal is. But whatever
it is, they screwed up big time and it needs
to be looked into. And I'm saying that, like, this
is the story from the parents' perspective. I don't know
what the doctor's story is because I haven't heard that,
but this is what the lawsuit says. Well, I'm interested
to see what the hospital is going to have to
say about it and if we ever get more information

(21:21):
about it, because I just feel like this is really bad.
I actually before we got on, I just did. I
just only spent like five minutes looking for the kids'
autopsy reports, so I would I'm going to spend more
time trying to find it or if any of you
guys have it and want to send it to me,
because I am curious because usually when we do an

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autopsy and we find something like this, like my first
question is kind of like you know, I'll say, Okay,
I open them up and they have this dispolmonary embolism
and it killed them. But my next question is like why,
like why did they have this? What underlying condition caused this?
Because that just doesn't happen to normal healthy people. Otherwise
people we'll be dropping dead all over the place all

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the time. Yeah, your blood doesn't just abnormally clot like that,
like you're at risk if you just had a surgery,
you know, when I had my stomach surgery or my
tummy tuck surgery in Miami, Like I wasn't allowed to
go on an airplane for at least a week afterwards,
because I you know, you're not supposed to travel and
have your legs sitting still for a long time because

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that could increase the risk of blood clots forming like that.
But nothing in any of the articles that I've read
so far indicates that this kid had a previous surgery
or a cancer, or you had anything that would have
caused this, you know, yeah, all right. Next, Nick Cannon
shockingly has been diagnosed formally with narcissism. Why is this.

(22:46):
I'm like surprised that he's just like, I'm shocked. I
don't know how to handle this, And you're just like, dude,
you have twelve kids by six different women, Like you
don't give a shit about anybody or anything except yourself.
Off right? Where you also shocked that a person diagnosed
with narcissism was talking about his narcissism at a charity
he thanksgiving event. So he was diagnosed with narcissistic person

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personality disorder, which involves persistent pattern of grandiosity a need
for admiration and a lack of empathy. So this makes
one hundred percent sense, Like he doesn't give a shit
the quality of life that his kids are going to have,
having all these different moms and not being able to
spend enough time with them and all that stuff, and
he needs He's He's made some statements like that he

(23:33):
thinks he's some kind of superhuman. Yeah, like he has
ability handily repopulating their earth. Yeah he so so like wow, surprised.
I think like we could have diagnosed him with that.
Uh yeah, when I saw I was like, why is
this even news? So what? So what is he trying to?
Like what what's the point of him coming out with this?

(23:54):
He's trying to bring awareness to it and prove that
you could try to heal yourself. Like well, just like newsflash, dude,
Like the irony of him talking about himself during a
charitable event for other people on Thanksgiving, like, get over yourself.
I don't know, I'm just like this wait to shock.
Mariah Carrey has kids, the first set of kids with him, right, yeah,

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and she's probably mortified it everything that's gone on after
every single woman's like yeah, no shit, I did find
it funny because I read her book and she talked
a lot about her first marriage and about her like
pseudo affair with Derek Jeter, but when it got to
meeting him and having kids, she really glazed over it.

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And I don't know if it was, you know, so
she wasn't speaking poorly of her kid's dad or something
for them to read later or what. I just thought
it was really interesting that she went so heavily in
detail about other relationships she had and then it was
kind of just like and I met Nick and we
had twins, and then we got divorce, Like it was
pretty quick. So maybe she was like she was heartbroken

(25:01):
over the first relationship or something, and he was just
kind of like a rebound, you know. I think no,
she certainly wasn't heartbroken about her first marriage. That guy
was incredibly abusive. In her words, I think she was
most heartbroken that her and Derek Jeter didn't work out.
I think she like really was into him. Well, it
would be kind of cool to be married to a
professional baseball player, yeah, especially when you're like the Queen

(25:23):
of Christmas, you're this huge singer. But I don't know,
I just I have to imagine that she's mortified by this,
and if you're in her calvary, you know you're just
like you could just tell your kids, like, don't even
worry about them, Like I could be both parents to you.
Just just forget about that guy, right, I don't know. Okay,
freak accidents, this this one again. Did you watch a

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video for this one? Yes, it's terrifying, all right. So
last weekend, this guy had gone to Castle's and Coasters
Amusement Park in Phoenix. I think that's such a stupid
name for meetsmooth park. So yeah, but like if it
was open in the night teen fifties, that makes sense.
If it's like an old one, I don't know how
twenty twenty four, they need the rebrand, all right. So

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he had gone there for his niece's birthday party, and
then they went on this double loop Desert Storm roller coaster.
So as the coaster starts going up the little hill
you know where, it's making the like clicking sound as
it's bringing you up to launch you off of the top,
he notices another clicking sound and realizes that his lap
bar has released, so his safety restraint is no longer

(26:29):
holding him down and within seconds, he decides, you know what,
I'm not even risking this. I'm gonna just climb out
because they always have like stairs going up the hill,
you know, I guess for workers or in emergency situations
like this. So in this video they show him climbing
out of his seat like seconds before this thing launches
down the hill. This is giving me such anxiety, seriously, Yeah,

(26:51):
I don't know if i'd have the balls to do that.
Like I would notice that, you know, you notice that
the things off. But I don't know if in a
situation like that that I would make such a split
decision to get out like that. I'd be so scared
to be all the way up there too on the
latter thing whatever. I mean, God knows what would have
happened if he didn't do that. I don't know if

(27:14):
just you know, how like when you go down, it
pulls you so much that you might just like you know,
when you go on like the gravitron or something, you
stick to the wall because the force is so is
so great, Like maybe that lap bar is just there
to like make sure an extra light person doesn't come out,
But like you know, he could have stuck good and

(27:34):
would have been fine. I don't know, because it wasn't
upside down clearly because it didn't have the oversoulder thing right.
So no, it says it's a double loop roller coaster.
I don't think all loop roller coasters have to have
the harness. Well, I guess the most alarming part of
this story is that it's said at the end of
the article that Arizona is one of eight states that

(27:55):
does not regulate its amusement parks. And like, as a
person that travels, that's scary to me. Never thought about that, Like,
you know, we're going to Arizona soon. Like, I don't know,
if I saw an amusement park, I might just be like, oh, guys,
why don't we go there today? Like I wouldn't even think.
I wouldn't even think about it. Just I don't know.
It's just this ignorance is bliss kind of thing. But no,

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the most disturbing part of the story is he said
the ride operator didn't even notice he got off of
it until he got on the ground. Because that monitors
these rides are teenagers that are stoned. Come on, they
don't give a shit, they don't even they they're not
that I'm such a crazy person. Like when the kids
go on those rides and stuff, I go up with
them and I'm just like, pull on the lap bar,

(28:40):
pull it, let me see you do it and stuff.
And they're like, oh my god, stop doing this moment,
And I'm like I don't care because I like, what
if that was a kid? Right, Like, what would they
have done? They don't know what to do, Like, well,
what would they have done? Would a kid? You know? Know?
To Like I tell the kids all the time, I'm like,
scream your freaking head off, because they're like, I, I

(29:02):
don't want to bother you, but my flat bar's not down,
you know what I mean? Like they're too scared to
speak up, and I always am just like, you will die.
I think if this happened to me, I don't think
I'd think I would be able to get out in time.
And I think I would just hold on for dear life.
But I don't think that without my cause I don't know.

(29:24):
This is this is pretty bad. And he's saying that
they didn't visit you know how they're supposed to like
pull on some strap or something to make sure it's down.
He said they didn't do that at all, and then
of course she didn't the ride operator didn't even notice
he got off on the hill. I don't know they
really need to do. So what is it, like he put,
I mean what you can't you can't sue. What are

(29:46):
you gonna sue? Like, you can't file like, well, he
filed a complaint with the park, and I guess that's
why they're you know, they need to have inspections or
they need to change. And that's like, like I look
at it, like, Okay, that's sue worthy just because of
the I told trauma that would cause me forever, like
I would never ever, ever in a million years. But
you can't. I mean he didn't get hurt or anything

(30:07):
like that. But yeah, definitely something needs to be done
just to make sure that they're like having a little
bit of more restrictions or standards when they're doing these rides.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, I thought he had a really good quote. He said,
quote I think all amusement parks that basically have people's
lives in their hands need to be better regulated. And
I do agree. I mean, this is very dangerous if
it's not done properly. I'm kind of surprised that it's
not mandatory that they're regulated. I have to look up.
What are the other eight states or the other seven

(30:38):
states besides Arizona. It's probably although it definitely was Action
Park at some point, which is Jersey. Though I don't know.
We're going to write about that soon actually, because we
really we're talking about that and just talking about how
like kids teeth would fall off and then people would

(30:58):
get lacerations from like teeth that were embedded in the
ride and stuff. It's just like amazing. Weich he talk
about it. He went there, No, I know he went there,
but yeah, we want the documentary. Yeah, we watched it together. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, we certainly should write about it. They had
a million problems. I think it'll be really interesting for
people to read. Okay, in California, this twenty four year

(31:19):
old guy was hanging Christmas lights on his house. It
appears there was this high voltage power line right near
the house and he when he was up on the roof,
I guess he swung a strand of the lights over
the power line trying to get it on the other side,
but they made contact and then it ended up electrocuting him.
So scary, you know, I was thinking. Most people probably

(31:42):
think the dangers associated with hanging Christmas lights are like
falling off of the roof or something. Well he did.
He got He got a jolts so hard that he
fell off the roof and paramedics showed up and found
him in a tree. Yeah, which is insane to think
about that scene. And then it's like, you know, you
have people up on it finding you like that. At first,

(32:02):
when I read the headline, I thought he was hanging
them up like plugged in or something, which obviously you
should never do. But this is really scary. I feel
like it could happen to anybody if they don't know. Yeah,
I mean, and normally if you got if you got
an electric shock from hang from the Christmas lights, it

(32:22):
wouldn't be so bad that it would kill you like that,
you know what I mean. Like the reason that he
died instantly was because it was a high voltage line
that he so happened to make contact with. But you
have to think like your heart is the heart beat
is put off by electrical impulses, you know, That's how

(32:44):
your heart beats, And when you get an electric shock
like that through your body, it could cause your heart
to just have irregular beats and it could kill you.
But with a high voltage electrocution like this, the word
electrocution being specifically to peep fole who die from an
electric shock. I mean it could pop. I've seen it

(33:05):
pop people's heads off. Oh my god. Yeah, it's it's
like insane, break phones, break joints, like it could be intense,
cause really bad burns. So I mean it threw him
right back, you know, and he was in the tree,
which is terrible that first responsors had to find him
like that too. Yeah. I think it's just really important

(33:25):
if you're hanging lights to be really careful because these
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(34:49):
crime in Spain, I guess police got tipped off that
there was, like, you know, some suspicious activity happening at
this strip club, so they took these dogs there to
try to sniff out the property. They were hoping to
find some cash and some drugs. They were really surprised, however,
when one of the drug sniffing dogs went over to
one of the dancers and wouldn't leave her alone, and

(35:11):
it turns out that she had some cocaine stepped up
her vagina. Yeah, and that's the whatever we always say.
It's like a little vault that you could hide things in.
But it's just not a good idea to stick drugs
up there, because you know, sometimes they give you drugs
that you could put into your vagina because it goes
right into the bloodstream. It absorbs through the lining of

(35:32):
the vagina so easily. So like if that bag wasn't
completely sealed and there was residue outside of it or whatever, like,
it could have been really bad for her. She could
have had taken too much in her body. You know,
it's just not a good idea to ever, like store
drugs in your body. Didn't you recently do a mystery

(35:53):
diagnosis of a drug mule and something similar happened. Yeah,
I mean I have a lot of cases of it
in the grocroom actually, of people who are swallowing condoms
full or usually it's condoms full of drugs and one
of them burst and it kills them, you know what
I mean. But you just shouldn't ever store it. You
shouldn't stick them up your butt, you shouldn't swallow them,

(36:15):
you shouldn't put them in your vagina because like if that,
if they're not extra sealed, forget it, you know, and
imagine like if if she thought that the drug the
cops were coming there to do a search, it was
probably like a quick thing. It wasn't like a careful like,
oh shit, let me grab this thing real quick and
stick it there, you know, so it could have you know,

(36:35):
it could have killed her really if enough got into
her bloodstream like that. Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine
it was a well thought out thing. I'm just imagining, imagining,
like the cops burst in the door, they're doing a raid,
and then you just take the ziploc bag and like
jam it up there. So yeah, yeah, of course it's
like Lorraina Brocco style, like pouring the drugs down the
toilet because your house is getting raided, you know. So

(36:57):
it's just not I mean, I understand, it's just not
worth it because like, look, she got caught anyway, and
she could have really hurt herself. So next time, just
I don't know what to tell you, flush it down
the toilet, Yeah I don't, Yeah, don't don't. Just try
to stick it anywhere you can, because I just can't believe,
you know, the dog was just doing his job, so
like she can't be mad at the dog, but it

(37:19):
is funny that he was like really circling the person
and they were like, like, how do you think that
went down? The dog was next her and they're like,
all right, it spread open, Like I don't I don't know.
I just think that that probably happens. I feel like
dogs are always like sniffing my button stuff, So I
don't know if that's like, don't you think that every time.
We don't have any dogs in our family, but every

(37:41):
time I'm near one, I feel like they're just like
sticking their face like way too close to my crotch,
you know, Like I just don't like it. Yeah, I mean,
I definitely don't like when they're like obviously when they're
trained for drugs or whatever, it's just like it's you
know what I mean. Well, and the cops can't let
it go because they, you know, people do stuff like this,

(38:03):
and obviously it was the case. So yeah, he's an idiot, Okay.
In Massachusetts, this woman caught an ambulance to assist her
seventy nine year old mother. When they got there, they
were shocked to find that the woman was stuck to
a mattress that was infested with cockroaches, bed bugs, and feces.
It was so bad that she had these ulcerations from

(38:25):
clearly from neglect, and it was so bad that paramedics
couldn't get her off of the mattress, so they had
to transport her body attached to the mattress to the
hospital where surgeons had to cut her body off of
the mattress. I can't even imagine the scene in the hospital.
I'm sure you cannot either. No, I mean, it sucks,

(38:48):
like but you could see how that happens. Think about this,
like when you have a cut on your knee. This
happened to me a lot when I was a kid,
Like I would get these abrasions or scrapes on my
knee and then I would put like one of those
big bandages over for it, and then you know, the
next day you go to take it off, and it's
stuck to it, right, because you have all of this
like what forms the scab. It's like serous fluid that's

(39:10):
coming out and that's coming to heal the wound and everything.
But just imagine that on a large scale, like it,
you know what I mean, It's just like when a
band aid sticks to your to a cut and having
these open wounds on your back and everything like that.
And it turns out that this woman was actually being
cared for by loving family members as well as a

(39:31):
nurse who said that she saw her a week before
and she was completely fine. Well, I wouldn't say loving
family members. They were getting money from the state to
take care of her, but clearly they were not taking
care of her. They you know, they're getting charged with
fraud now because they were trying to falsely file reports
and get money and use her bank account and they

(39:51):
were splitting the checks they were getting with the daughter.
So it was sorry, it was it was the woman.
The seventy nine year old woman's daughter was the primary caretaker,
and then her granddaughter was helping her out, and then
they also had a nurse coming to the house. How
sick is that, Like you're just collecting money. So so she

(40:12):
had apparently she had untreated diabetes and got these also,
I mean, even if she was bedbound and wasn't being
flipped properly and everything like that, she was getting terrible
bed sores which led to an acratizing fasciitis. So that's
an infection deeper within underneath the layers of the muscle,
and that caused her to become septic and she ended

(40:34):
up dying from that. Like, it's just it's so so
sad to me that that this happened, you know. Well, Okay,
so they're saying that a week before the nine one
one call, the nurse's report said that she was clean,
well cared for, alert, and her diabetes was well controlled.
Obviously there was no mention of the bugs, which investigators

(40:55):
are saying it would take weeks to form an infestation
of that level that she had. Yeah, and also the
wounds wouldn't appear overnight as well. Yeah. And then they're
saying the daughter received up to one hundred and forty
thousand dollars for caring for the mother, which she was
splitting with her daughter, and they were it says they
allegedly build Mass Health for services not provided, and they

(41:16):
were billing them for services after her death as well.
So not only is it like you've definitely been caught,
they're just gonna keep billing for the services that they're
not even rendering. So wait, I don't understand. Though they
didn't get in trouble after she died. No, So it
says the daughter, granddaughter, and the nurse are facing charges
of manslaughter, caregiver, neglect of an elder, larceny, and medicaid

(41:40):
fraud and they're due back in court in January. But
like they didn't get in trouble right away when the
mom was brought to the hospital attached to the mattress.
I guess because like half over, Yeah, because like how
were they collecting after she died? I would think at
that time. Maybe it's different because like obviously, if you're
abusing a child's like you would get you would get

(42:02):
arrested and taken right right away. Well, maybe it was
like they were blaming the nurse, the nurses blaming them.
They couldn't do anything technically until they looked further into it. Yeah,
there might have just been a couple of days in
between this happening and them getting arrested. Yeah, or maybe
they didn't even did they know. Maybe they didn't even

(42:24):
know that the mom got taken to the hospital, if
she was being left alone for long periods of time
and stuff. I don't know. No, they called the ambulance
to help her. None of it makes any sense. People
are so dumb, like you think that you just think
that you're just gonna be like, oh, she just got
like this yesterday. I don't know what happened. She was

(42:46):
completely fine, Like I just don't get it. I don't
know what goes on. Clearly they were like, we can
get some cash. We don't give a shit about her
own daughter. That's so gross, it's horrible. Are you gonna
do that to me? Well, we're we're gonna be old
around the same time. So this is a question for
the girls because they're gonna be caring for both of

(43:07):
us together. Oh god, all right. Medical news in California,
the six year old our teacher was in the middle
school classroom when she noticed that a bat somehow got
in her classroom and got trapped. I guess the thing
wasn't moving around at first, and I don't know if
she knew if it was dead or her or whatever,
but she wanted to try to gently scoop it up

(43:27):
and bring it outside. And when she did that, it
came to woke up, got scared and bit her. Yeah,
And the worst part is is that she didn't think
it was that big of a deal. She just kind
of like didn't go to the doctor, didn't do anything,
because when a bat bite you, their teeth can be
so small that it might not even hurt. So she

(43:47):
just didn't really think much of it. And then she
didn't start showing any problems for an entire month, and
started showing signs of like fatigue and fever and f
just like normal stuff. And then all of a sudden,
shit went downhill real fast, and then she went to
the hospital and was dead within four days. It's just

(44:09):
diagnosed with rabiasts, So all right, So I have a
million questions, like, if you get bit by any animal,
is it safe to say you should just go get treatment?
I matter what I think, So yes, I always think
that you should at least call your doctor. I told
you when I got my surgery and I came home

(44:29):
and I saw my cat and I was gone for
the longest time I've been away from the cat. She like,
I went to pet her, and she bit my hand,
and I immediately called the doctor and was just like,
because it's a puncture wound, right, and the bacteria in
their mouth could go deep into your hand. And I
was still healing from surgery, and I was like, I
don't need this to be a problem. Got antibiotics, it

(44:50):
was never a problem, you know what I mean. But
for certain animals that carry rabies, especially bats. For example,
if you get bit by an aw animal that's known
to cause rabies, you should one hundred percent go because
there's a vaccine for it that you can get that
if you get it within forty eight hours, you will

(45:12):
never get the rabies virus. It won't replicate and you
won't get sick and die from it. But if you
go once you're having symptoms, I mean sometimes you don't
show symptoms for two or three months after you get bit.
It's so scary, and it's like one hundred percent fatal.
There's been twenty documented cases under twenty documented cases in

(45:33):
the history of time that people have survived rabies. That's
how bad it is. I just I think people have
this understanding. I think people falsely think that when you
get bitten by an animal with rabies that you get
it immediately and die immediately. Yeah, no you don't. So
I found it really interesting. I mean I even would

(45:55):
have assumed it took a couple of days, not you know,
months at a time to present itself, because that's even worse. Yeah,
I mean the lesson here is just like and even
if the animal doesn't have rabies, you can still get
terrible bacterial infections and weird ones because animals carry some
weird bacteria that could cause you. I've had cases of

(46:17):
people that had to get amputations because of certain things
of animal bites that not rabies related, but just bacterial related.
So just go go to urgent care and go wherever
and get checked out. It's just it's the best thing
to do, I think. I mean, I could totally see
myself being in a situation where I get bitten and

(46:39):
then I'm just like, oh, well by trash can. No
that the raccoon in the trash can is still a
mystery unsolved. I don't want to where that they came from.
One of the biggest things too, is that, well, it's
like the raccoon that my mom swears was in our
house once that like nobody saw, there was no signs

(46:59):
of it like this, wait, this is is a great story.
So this is when we were we lived at my
mom's house still, we were all teenagers or something, and
my mom swears that her and my dad were sitting
on the couch on a Saturday night, like eating ice
cream and watching whatever show they used to watch, the
Commission or one of those those like eighties shows like that,

(47:21):
or nineties shows whatever. And she goes out into the
kitchen to get ice cream and she said that there
was a raccoon sitting in the kitchen right so, and
I guess, I don't know what. She went and got
pop pop or something, and he went out and it
was gone. And then like Louis was in his room
in the back room, it was just like it was
gone and nobody saw it. And we just like we

(47:43):
make fun of her to this day because like nobody believes.
We're like, no, you were like tripping or something. You
definitely didn't see this thing. I got this. And then
Maria so that Maria had a raccoon in her trash
can last weekend, and then she said that she went
back and it was gone, and we're like, yeah, okay.
The point is, though, is that from this teacher's perspective,
aside from her not getting help when she got bit,

(48:06):
I mean, I know that she was trying to do
the right thing. But another flaming red, you know, flag,
is that this a bat being awake in the middle
of the day is a terrible sign. That's always the thing,
Like when a nocturnal animal is awake during the day,
they could definitely have Raby's. So you just there's just

(48:28):
two different things that happened in this situation that should
occlude her, Like I need to go get this checked out.
And we just talked about a little kid that got
bit by a bat, right, Yeah, remember it was a
kid that got bit There was a bat in the
kid's room and they didn't even realize that the kid
had gotten bit by the by the bat. And then

(48:49):
we were talking about Rabi's with the squirrel, the peanut
the squirrel case. Yeah, well that was ridiculous. There is
still more information that needs to come out about the
peanut the square. Okay, it's been quiet lately. I wonder,
I wonder why. But we heard from other sources that
there is more to the story and it's not it
doesn't it's not all what it seems. But we'll wait

(49:12):
to see what comes out in the media about that.
All right, So this next one is so fascinating. So
Australia has passed a new law that plans to take
effect next year which would ban children under sixteen from
having access to social media. I love this idea. Honestly.
I think that there's been so many studies done now

(49:32):
that shows that social media is having more of a
negative impact on children than positive. I just don't know
how they're going to have this legit happen, Like, how
do you get a kid from not just going on
their mom's phone or having their mom sign up for
an account or whatever, Like, well, you might be made

(49:53):
putting more work on the parent, because all I could
see is my kids don't have social media now, but
if they did, they would be like I need to
go on your phone to look at it, you know,
and it would cause more work for me. The only
thing I could see, which is so much work would
be that they'd have to pass a law in the

(50:14):
country where when you register a phone, it has to
be registered to the age of the person using the phone,
and then they would take those IP addresses and block them.
But I just think that is so much work to
do that. But also just how Okay, so I go
to the store and I and I'm buying a phone

(50:36):
for you, Like, how how do you even prove that it?
I just I don't know how you could possibly get
around it without just I know that they said that
there's like a really hefty fine involved, right, So I
don't think for parents. I think for the social media
the social media companies. But I'm just wondering. Listen, this

(50:56):
is I'll tell you. I think that it's good because
I think that a lot of kids want to do
it because their friends are doing it and they don't
want to be the only ones left out. I've heard
this from several parents of like, well, every kid in
their school has a phone and has TikTok, so my
kids should have that, you know, because you don't want
your kid to be like the weirdo that's left out. Right.

(51:17):
But if, in theory, if no one has access to it,
then then it would be they wouldn't they wouldn't miss it,
They just wouldn't. And this law goes as far as
to say that if they have a current account, that
that's also getting shut down. Yeah, and parents can't override
like there's no like is it okay with you? And

(51:40):
then they can override it like it's just it is
what it is. Nobody under sixteen. Let's say a kid
has assuming their phones work exactly like ours do, a
kid has downloads TikTok on their phone, right, and then
they say, okay, they're going to say how old are you?
And you're gonna lie and say you're you're you're seventeen right,

(52:01):
like so how like, I don't know how they pull
that off without just having one of those buttons that says, oh, yeah,
I'm this age. The same as websites like they there's
like these these really raunchy porn websites that are just
like are you eighteen? Yeah? I am okay, you are okay? Cool?
You could say it like it's the same with alcohol websites.
They ask you if you're twenty one before going on

(52:23):
an alcohol website, like yeah, of course, yeah. But I
mean I'm really interested to see if they're if they
have some kind of a way to pull it off,
because I do. I think it's great. I know a
lot of people think it's government overreach, which I'm usually
not a fan of, but in this particular case, I
feel like it's it's causing such a social like impact

(52:48):
on these children growing up. I mean, it's noticeable. There's
schools around here even that are saying that they're not
letting there wasn't it Warwi's talking about that. Maybe I
didn't talk we didn't talk about that on here, that
there was a school that's suing Facebook and stuff for
oh it is it's in New Jersey. I was talking

(53:09):
to Gabe about it. I didn't put it on here.
It's in Princeton, New Jersey. There's a school that's suing
like Facebook and Meta and stuff, saying that their costs
have gone up for mental health care for children so
much because of social media that they're now suing Facebook
because they want to get their money back because that's
how much money they're putting into mental health resources at

(53:31):
the school. Listen, I could totally see this. I want
to say. I'm part of the first teenage generation with
social media and it quickly got toxic. I don't even
think I had a Facebook or anything till I was
in ninth or tenth grade either. So imagine these kids
that are starting off in fifth grade with this. But
and it wasn't even like it is now though. It

(53:52):
just no it. It is such a toxic place right now.
I know a couple people that have teenage kids that
have serious problems with that because it's like, you know,
back in our day, you would go to school and
you could get bullied at school, but then you'd have
some relief when you get like a safe space at
home to be away from that. And now it's just

(54:13):
you're exposed to it all the time. You're exposed to
it all the time. It never ends. You're constantly in
this cycle of just getting harassed. Of course, anybody's going
to develop mental health issues. Yeah, that I was reading
that there's been studies done that say that on kids,
that forty three percent of the people that were surveyed
said that they've been a victim of cyber bullying at
some point. This is not people, I'm saying children. I mean,

(54:36):
that's that's a high number. But not only that, there
was one and out of three teenager girls felt worse
about their bodies, even boys feeling worse about their bodies
and stuff. It's just like it's kind of the most
awkward stage and hardest stage to go through anyway, because
you're just going from being a kid to having all
these hormones induced and just like your body is like
completely changing every time you look in the mirror, just

(54:59):
like all this stuff and then drop on top of it,
this stuff with all the influencers and the filters and
this and that. It's a lot. It's just a lot.
It's a lot for me. I think you could talk
to anybody in the world that uses social media and
they've had some type of trouble. I mean, how many
times have you just got messages being like you're ugly?
Like thanks keyboard work, you're really ruined in my day.

(55:23):
But you know, we're older and you know how to
use your brain to be like, well, this person's a
loser that's taking time out of their day when they
should be a productive member of society. Whereas when you're fourteen,
you're just worried about your classmates saying you're ugly. Right, yeah,
I think it's really really difficult to be a teenager
today with social media, don't. I really am curious how

(55:45):
they're going to enforce this. They also said that the
social media companies are not going to be able to
enforce uploading IDs online to prove age. I know, when
you sign up for PayPal, for example, they make you
upload your driver's license, but that's a banking institutions, so
they have different, you know, regulations. But in theory, I
guess if they would consider this to be as of

(56:09):
as important. Then they have the technology to be able
to prove who people are, like right, Like that's actually
a good example. If if I could go online and
do banking because they know who I am when I
log in, then they could do that technology with social
media too. But even then though, it's still like I

(56:32):
could log in, I mean, you log into my bank
account all the time, right, it's just like just give
the password to somebody and call it a day. Like
well that or like, I don't know, for example, like
they could be like, okay, you can only have one
driver's license uploaded to one account, but what about us
where we each have a personal account and then we
have the podcast account.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
It's like, I don't know, I don't I'm having a
really hard time understanding how they're going to actually enforce
this unless they're doing some great tech coding. I just
it's not one of these laws that they just like
they just did and it means nothing, you know what
I mean. I don't think so. I think Australia and
New Zealand are really hardcore about stuff like this, and

(57:15):
they actually follow through with it. It's not just like
for show, I'm curious because we have a lot of
listeners in Australia as well as in the grocerym and
I'm just curious what you guys think about this, because
I can't really imagine that any parent really would be
upset about this, Like, do they really think that the
social media is good for their kid in any kind

(57:35):
of way. I just can't even imagine a parent arguing
for it. Unless you're one of those moms that uses
your child to make money on social media. I'm sure
they're gonna have a problem with it. Oh that's interesting. Well,
but technically it doesn't matter because if you're taking videos
with a kid, it's not the kid doesn't have to
go on the social media. No, you're right, and there's

(57:57):
gonna be. There are laws coming out kids being used
for things like that already, because it's obviously it's becoming
more and more. Well, of course, quickly we think of
that woman Ruby Frank immediately who starts abusing her children
and then is using them to make a living. Yeah,
it's horrible. And then on the social media end, you know,

(58:18):
they're not stoked about this at all. They're facing major
fines if they don't adhere to the law. Elon Musk
says he's most worried about freedom of speech, which like
chill out, and then Mark Zuckerberg, of course, is just
like I'd really encourage you to wait for further studies
to come out, Like what further studies? We know the
effects it's having. Well, there's that movie documentary called The

(58:43):
Social Project. Is that what it's called. I think it's
called that's it's not a movie. It's a documentary about
social media. Isn't it called like the Social Dilemma? Yes,
something like that. It's on Netflix. That ruined my life, Gabe,
maybe watch that on one of our anniversary weekends. How
really it? And I like was crying so bad. I

(59:05):
felt it was terrible. It's just so terrible, Like the whole,
the whole entire thing of it is terrible. And yeah, exactly,
have romantic Well, this is the same as him, you know,
right before I was about to give birth to his child,
making me watch some documentary on nine to eleven with
firefighters dying, Steve Buscemi did. I was just like crying

(59:26):
my eyes out the night before I was supposed to
give birth, Like why would you show your pregnant wife
that movie right then and there. But whatever, then you
took that opportunity to then show me Steele. Magnolia is
about a woman that was a mother that died. Thanks. Yes,
it had nothing to do with my pregnancy though she
had diabetes that was uncontrolled. And but you were in

(59:49):
the hospital after you gave birth for a while and
I didn't know that all that happened thinking about was
something horrible like that happening? All right, anyway, we're digressing.
What were we talking about? I can't We're talking about
Mark Zuckerberg being, Oh, he's the worst, a little bitch
of he well so, yeah, and with Eola Musk with
freedom and speech and stuff like I'm a huge like

(01:00:11):
freedom of speech person and everything. But at the same time,
I don't like, what does that have to do with kids,
because when you're under eighteen years old, your parents are
are the ones that should be making the decisions for
your well being. I think I would argue ninety nine
percent of children under sixteen are not going on there
to you know, freely express what they think about world

(01:00:34):
views and everything. It's to make fun of their classmates.
To a post selfies. I can imagine that if if
like X and meta and all these things they do
their analytics. I mean, they're making the majority of their
money off of children. Yeah, so I mean really like
I mean, I know adults are on social media all

(01:00:55):
the time, but children are are dedicated to it. They
you know what I mean, They're making a career out
of it, just the advertisements and everything is their job
is to make these children be on that device all day.
So I don't know what kind of further studies need
to be done. I wonder, Well that's okay. So that's
where I was getting with that documentary, the Social whatever

(01:01:19):
Dilemma or project whatever it's called. When they interviewed I
think it was the guy who started Pinterest. Maybe did
you watch it? I never watched it. Oh it's you should.
Every parent should watch it for sure. You should just
watch it too because it because it's it really goes
behind the psychology of like how these companies are keeping

(01:01:41):
you on the device, on their things at all, on
their platforms at all times. But it was some major
CEOs of companies. At the very end, they asked all
of them like would you let your kid have social media?
And every one of them is like no, absolutely not
real nice. Yeah, no, I know that's why you're just like, okay,
thank you. That's that that proves your point right there.

(01:02:03):
I will fully acknowledge that I feel like I have
an addiction to my phone. For example, on Saturday, I
was at a funeral and I was at a mass
that was an hour long, not even a full hour long,
and I was like sweaty were Jones and yes, and
it's that's like really not good. No, it's not good.
And I have you know, the iPhone has these features

(01:02:26):
now where you could set timers on apps, so if
you've been on the app for so long, it'll like
lock you. I mean you could override it, but it's like, hey, listener,
this actually is true with you because if I text
you and you don't. Maria usually writes me back like
right away all the time. If I don't hear from
her for an hour, I'm like she's dead somewhere, whereas me,

(01:02:50):
you'll text me and like I might get back to
you the next day, Like I just don't. I don't
have my phone like I do sometimes. But then when
I decide it's like my time not to have the phone,
I just put it away and I don't touch it
for hours at a time. Well, I really struggle. I
struggle with Instagram the most, Like I don't go on TikTok.

(01:03:10):
I'm not interested. The only time I've gone on TikTok
to watch videos for fun is to watch like sour
dough baking tips. Right, I don't just go on there
and freely scroll, because the videos are what really could
trap you for hours without you even realizing it goes by.
And this is why I started embroidering and trying to
read more, because I've recognized, you know, earlier this year

(01:03:34):
that I just have a problem with being on my
phone all of the time, and I don't want to
be Do you have like that? You know how there's
that thing that tells you how long you're on the
phone and stuff the screen time? Yeah, yeah, do you
look at it? Yeah, that would be like if it's
saying it's hours of your day, you just have to

(01:03:55):
think about it, like, Okay, I'm up. However many hours
a day you're off? Right, Well, I feel like on
average it's around four hours every day. Yeah, which but
part of my terrible because it is part of your
job as well. So yeah, part of my day is
checking my emails. We also use social media for work,

(01:04:16):
so I have to go on you really check times.
Yeah like that, because i used to be on Instagram
way too much and I've cut back. I mean, all
you guys that have been following me forever could tell
that I've cut back so much because I used to
post a couple times a day, every single day, stories
running all the time, and and then like I just
was I just thought, like I'm not present in my

(01:04:38):
life right now, you know what I mean? Like it,
me and Gabe noticed this phenomenon, like when we're on
vacation or at a parade or a baseball game or something,
every single person has their phone out and they're recording
whatever event's going on, and they're not just actually living
the moment and watching the event happen. You're like too
busy about getting it on film, which how many people

(01:05:01):
actually go back and watch all those videos anyway, But
it's just like every single person is not actually watching
their kid perform or this or that because they have
the phone in front of their face, in between their
child and and themselves, you know what I mean. It's
it's just really interesting to watch and I just have
made a decision that I want to be present and

(01:05:22):
experienced because those memories like live in my head more
than in my camera, you know what I mean. No,
I totally agree with that. I'm on my phone and
a lot when I'm doing stuff because I'm of huge
picture taker. I mean, I have a degree in photography.
I've always been obsessed with taking pictures, so I definitely
have a problem with that. I've tried to be better
about that, especially when like when the girls have a

(01:05:46):
recital or something, right, Like I try to be that
person that like videos it for you so you can
watch it it real like fut then have it because
like yeah, and I would do that for you too,
like you know what I mean, Like when you have
kids and stuff, like I'll record so like you can
be in the moment. But like you when your kids
on stage, they want to look down at you looking

(01:06:06):
at them. They don't want to look down at you
on your phone, you know what I mean. Like they
when you're playing softball or anything like, they want to
they want to see that you're like paying attention to them,
not to your phone. I've been getting better about it
because like I have a timer set on Instagram and
when it goes off, I will only override it if

(01:06:28):
I still have work stuff to do, like posting our
clip or something. Otherwise, I won't override it. I'll just
be like I'm not going on the rest of the day.
But I don't you need to get to a point
where you don't need that. Well, I know, and I
know it's like losery to admit that, but like, you know,
I have this story. I have this conversation with my
friends too, because I'm like, I will you know, I'll

(01:06:51):
watch an entire episode of Housewives and I can't tell
you one thing that happened because I wasn't really watching it. Yeah,
I was almost going the entire time. Yeah, well, this
is what it's happening to all people, you know what
I mean. And it's not it's not anything that you
should be embarrassed about. It's just like, this is why
I think that this is like it pertains to sixteen

(01:07:12):
year olds, but really it just needs to be to
everyone because think about if every single person in the
world is on social media for four plus hours a night,
then like what's getting done in the world. There's so
many hours a day that you like, that's why at
the end of every day, I'm just like, Okay, I
accomplish this today, this today, this today, this today. Like

(01:07:33):
if you can't, if you're just like oh I didn't
even get dressed and I've been sitting on my phone
all day and like playing on my phone and watching TV,
then like you kind of aren't successful as a human,
like you just kind of well, this was my point.
We'd turn on timers and stuff because I'm like, okay,
like there's definitely a world in which I could set
on my counts all night long and play on my phone, right,
but I don't want to do that anymore. At least

(01:07:53):
if I read a book or if I made something,
I feel like I've accomplished yeah, exactly where Otherwise I'm
like I just looked at the same feed. I can't
even see my friend's feeds anymore because of the algorithm,
So I've just looked at a feed of nonsense for
four hours in a row, and it's it's just like
all dumb shit. Like it's like, okay, it's like entertaining. Oh,
this memes funny, this video is funny, whatever, but like,

(01:08:16):
what how does that enrich your life? Like it doesn't
all right, well, it just gone on super long tage,
all right. Last medical story. Back in twenty seventeen, a
sixty six year old man had visited a men's health
clinic looking for treatment for fatigue and weight loss. Somehow
along the way they ended up misdiagnosing him and unnecessarily
treated him with a quote invasive erectile dysfunction shot, which

(01:08:39):
caused irreversible damage. So I think that there's I've seen
a couple of these starting to pop up around these
like men's health clinics that you go and they say like, hey,
do you have low testoassrner, you tired all the time,
low sexual desire, blah blah blah, like come here and
we'll treat you. And obviously like there's some kind of

(01:08:59):
a medical professional running these places, because I mean, you
would hope so, because they shouldn't be injecting people with
any kind of medications without a doctor or a nurse
practitioner or PA or somebody doing it. But it this
particular clinic is being told that they're conning old men
for money. And I guess this guy, I don't know

(01:09:20):
how he ended up going there, but he went in
and they were like, oh, are you having problems with
the rectile dysfunction? And he said, yeah, but like I
don't really care about that. I care about whatever other
symptoms he was having which had nothing to do with that.
And they gave him these at home testosterone replacement therapy,

(01:09:40):
which included putting injections into his penis, I guess, and
then they said he wasn't doing it right. So he
went back and it was I don't know if it was, Oh, yeah,
it was the PA. The physician's assistant had shown him
how to injected it and injected like seventy five percent
more than he should have or something, and it gave
him a condition known as priapism, which is a prolonged erection.

(01:10:02):
So when you have an erection, the blood fills up
in the penis and that's how it stays erect, but
then it leaves the penis, and then that's how guys
could go on living with normal penile health. But when
you have all of that blood that's stuck up in
the penis for a long time, that means that oxygenated
blood isn't getting in there to profuse or give oxygen

(01:10:25):
to the penis, and it could die. And when you
have an erection that's longer than four hours. They advise
you to go to the hospital to get that fixed
right away, because this can be this could happen what
happened to this guy, which is that his penis it
just like it totally died, nothing left. It just won't
work anymore prolonged direction can't get erections anymore. And he's

(01:10:49):
been awarded four hundred and twelve million dollars. It's the
highest medical malpractice payout in history because of this. It
is very interesting that it's, oh, hi, monetarily, it's it's
good though, because like, like what amount of money. This
guy's sixty six, right, so he still has he could
still have potentially another twenty thirty years of a sex

(01:11:13):
life left in him, right, Like really, like you don't
know when a person's gonna die. People live into their
nineties all the time, and and like maybe they don't
have sex or whatever, but like sixty year old certainly
are having sex. Right, You're just telling this guy like
he just can't ever have sex again. Like it's it's you.
You're ruining a person's life like that. That's a big,
a big part of life that you can't ever get back.

(01:11:35):
You can't know even this money is not getting him
that back. Yeah, exactly, And they really need to like
stop doing shit like like now it's like, oh, well,
if I'm gonna lose my whole entire business and like
be in debt the rest of my life, maybe I'll
think twice about doing this to people. Which is sad
that you have to go that route to make somebody

(01:11:56):
feel that way, Like you should not want to just
blow people off and do whatever you want and be
negligent just because you can and make a lot of money.
It happens all the time though, So it's I mean
it's it's like I like, it's the same with the
social media thing, Like I like these big hefty finds
that are going to be involved with things like this

(01:12:16):
because maybe it will make people think twice before they're
going to hurt somebody like that, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I want to know who this guy's lawyer is. That's
what he is, a very good lawyer. Yeah apparently. I
mean they're like, he's not even going to get any
of that money. You think, like he'll get some of it,
but if it's probably give them like a couple mil

(01:12:38):
up front, and then he'll never see the rest of it.
I just can't even imagine if it's like a small
like if you were if you were doing like John Hopkins,
of course you would be able to get a couple
of million dollars. But if this is just a little
a practice that does men's health and stuff, they don't
have I would imagine that they don't have that kind
of money sitting up. I don't know. They have clinics

(01:12:58):
in a bunch of state, so it's like a chain. Yeah,
it's a chain. So they have clinics in Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Nevada, Nebraska,
North Carolina, and Wisconsin. Okay, and I believe this suit.
I feel like this suit was at a New Mexico, Mexico. Yeah. Yeah,
so they have clinics in a bunch of different areas.

(01:13:18):
I don't know if they're like four hundred and twelve
million dollar rich, but they seem to be doing pretty good.
So yeah, you can't just have like facilities and everywhere
if you're not making some sort of money. And there
was more to the story too. It was like he
got he had this erection and then I guess he
went home after and said like, I still have an erection,

(01:13:41):
and the guy made some kind of crude comment to him, like, oh,
it's like really good. Go show your friends like total
douche bags. It's a great I know. And then so
then he went home and called them and was like,
I still have this erection. And then he said he
went back to the clinic because he was in pain,
because like, having an erection like that is painful after

(01:14:01):
a while. And then they tried to do something for
him to make it go away, and it wouldn't work,
and then they made them go to the emergency room
and drive there by himself, but it was too late
by the time he got there. I one hundred percent
agree with this. Yeah, me too. Okay. Other death news, So,

(01:14:21):
a new study has come out revealing that Tesla's are
involved in more fatal accidents than any other car brand,
despite Tesla claiming that they're the safest cars on the road.
What's interesting about this article is that it doesn't say
that there's anything wrong with a Tesla mechanically that would
make them more inclined to cause people's deaths, but more

(01:14:42):
about the people that are driving that are driving them,
which is interesting because you know, our kids don't have
a school bus, so Gabe and I have to bring
the kids to school every single day, and oftentimes if
Gabe is off work, we go together. So we're constantly
back and forth, back and forth together driving the kids
to school, and we have all these theories about like, Okay,

(01:15:04):
this person has this car, this is their personality, Like
we make jokes about it all the time, and so
that's why I think it's really interesting that they think
that that there's a certain personality with the Tesla cars,
but it don't. They have those ones that like, you
don't really have to drive. I saw a guy like
reading a book one day when he was driving his car.

(01:15:24):
So some Teslas have his self driving mode, which I
believe is just a form of cruise control essentially, but
people just really are taking it seriously, like, no, you
could put in the address and it will take you.
It will drive you to where you put the address in.
But I don't think you're supposed to totally not be
paying attention. And they're having a problem because I remember

(01:15:46):
we had a report a really long time ago that
people were taking naps. Well it was on the self
driving mode. Yeah, in your case, you're saying you saw
someone reading a book. I think you're supposed to be
paying attention. You're just not driving it yourself. It's funny
because we were sitting in traffic, but it was driving enough,
you know what I mean. Yeah, And I look over
at this guy and he's like reading a book right

(01:16:09):
And the whole time I was just like, is this
guy serious right now? Like he's reading a book while
he's driving. He's not even looking at the road. And
then I realized, Oh, it was a Tesla. They got
that weird function that it could drive without. I think
I think the one that we were talking about it
was it was someone, wasn't it like someone that was
drunk that slept in the Tesla and they ended up

(01:16:30):
hitting a pedestrian and killing them or something like. There
was like some I feel like it was years ago.
There was something like that. But yeah, I guess you're not.
I don't know. I've never been in one, but I
guess you're You're supposed to still kind of stay at
the wheel and be paying attention. So then what's the
point of it. I don't know. I think it's really dumb.
I've been in a Tesla A couple of times, and

(01:16:52):
in my opinion, I think their dashboard situation has so
much going on that every reguard distract us too. Your car,
in particular, the buttons are just like all over the plate,
Like I don't know how you find something if you're
just trying to do it quick. I can't when I'm driving,
I cannot just say, oh, the heater's on too hot,

(01:17:14):
let me make it colder. I can't. It's like too
it's a touchscreen and I'll crash the car. It's like
worse than playing on my phone that I actually know
how to get around. There's just different functions that I'm like,
there's probably a way to do it, Like I just
I don't know. It's like it's the same thing, like
a car is not that hard to drive. Why do
you have to make itself drive? Like? Why does why
did it change the gear shift on every single vehicle

(01:17:37):
every year? It's made like why? Y? Yeah? Your is
very straightforward with the buttons, So I appreciate that because
I'm I'm a simple gal. I can't. I can't have
the buttons being like you have to press this twice,
turn a nub five times, and then you could turn
the heat. Did you read that the that the that
there was a list of other cars that were interested

(01:17:59):
or that we're in these accidents as well. Yeah, they
said Kia's, Buick, Dodge, and Hyundai. So like, what's the
you know what I mean, it's just like, what's the correlation?
You know, it's interesting that they're saying it's like the
type of people that drive these cars and not not
the cars themselves. Yeah. I do find it interesting because yeah, exactly,

(01:18:21):
so Elon might not be wrong that his car is safe,
because it is. It's just the people that are driving
it are not driving it safely. That's what they're saying, exactly.
That's interesting. Okay, all right, let's get onto Questions of
the Day. Every Friday on the app mother Knows Death
Instagram account, we put a story up and you guys
could ask whatever questions you want. First, is it ever

(01:18:43):
too early to teach your children about death? Or listen
to your podcast? I don't think it's too early to
teach your children about deaths because one of the things
I think that people say to their kids often is is,
you know, kids get scared that they're going to die,
and then I think that you should tell them that
they are going to die someday, because why would you

(01:19:05):
tell them they're not going to die when they are
going to die someday. You don't need to like go
out of your way to scare them about it. But
it's scaring. It's just it's just if you tell them
that from the time that they're little kids, like they
just always live their life knowing that their time here
is short and that they should not, you know, spend
six hours on TikTok, you know, every day. But I mean,

(01:19:26):
this is why I have anxiety. Thanks, yeah, one of them.
Any But this is the thing, Like you're in a
family and and you know old people, so they're going
to die anyway, Like that's happening no matter what. And
then you have these tragic cases of young people dying
in families, parents dying, siblings dying, and you don't want

(01:19:49):
your kid to like go down a complete rabbit hole
because they because you've coddled them and kept them away
from death so much like every human should know that
death is it's just a part of life. As people
having babies. It's just like it is what it is.
And I think it helps them when like their dog
dies or their cat dies or anything like that. Like
it's just it's something that they should just if you

(01:20:12):
tell them. From the time they could talk, it's normal
to them. But now the podcast is a different situation
because I feel like I don't talk on this podcast
how I talk to my children, So that's up to you.
Like as far as talking about erections and masturbation and
stuff like that, I don't think kids need to hear

(01:20:33):
about that kind of stuff. And also some of the
murder cases that we talk about are just and like
child abuse cases and stuff. There's certain things that they
don't need to hear in my opinion, until they get
a little bit older to be able to process that.
So I mean, that's your call as a parent to

(01:20:55):
make that decision on which age is appropriate for that.
But I mean Maria and I would watched to Catch
a Predator together when she was like ten thirteen. I
don't know if you were ten. You weren't ten. You
definitely were not ten. You were like that really a teenager? Yeah, yeah,
and like that. But that's okay because I think at

(01:21:15):
that point you got you start learning like, okay, there
are people out there like this, and like if you
start getting into that, like they understand more. Kids could
start learning about like true crime and stuff when they're
teenagers and stuff, but it's like if they're if they're
under ten years old. I just think it's it's even though,

(01:21:37):
like now, like I tell the kids certain things, but
not everything. They don't. They don't. I tell them enough
so they know that they should protect themselves around adults
and strangers and this and that. But at the same time,
I don't go into graphic details that I would go
to in this podcast. Yeah, I mean, I try to

(01:21:57):
think about it. I feel like Crime con for example,
has like a strict nobody under eighteen policy, and I
feel like it's not even because you know, they're really
respectfully covering the cases and everything, but there's also just
an age in which you have to like understand that,
like a sixteen year old might not be able to
handle a case of a grandmother needing to get cut

(01:22:18):
out of a mattress because she was so neglected, but
you don't know, it's up to your kid, and you
know your kid the best. Yeah, And it's exactly. I
think that certain kids just they're at different levels of
what they could do. But I don't I don't know,
Like I don't think that the mother knows death is
a place for any child personally, it's definitely not a
place for children. I think when you're you know, in

(01:22:40):
your mid to higher teens, that's when you can start comfortably,
you know, sharing the show with your kid exactly, because
also it's explicit, you know, we curse, we talk about
sex stuff too, So you might not want your kid
learning about stuff like that, but you might want your
kid to know about some dumb shit somebody did on
TikTok that they shouldn't have been doing. Yeah, and I do.

(01:23:00):
I actually I didn't even put that in here because
because it's like this is happening so often. But there
was a kid, and this is a good example, like
there was some I read a news story this week,
one of the ones we caught out that there was
a TikTok challenge and this kid went to sleepover his
friend's house. He's twelve years old, and they they did

(01:23:21):
this huffing that was on the TikTok and the kid died.
The twelve year old died, And I sat them down
because they were maybe gonna have a sleepover one of
their friends. Last weekend and like I just was like, listen,
I'm just letting you know because we don't have TikTok
in my house, right, but like other kids have to
TikTok at their house, and I'm just like, this is

(01:23:41):
just an example of like stuff people are doing on TikTok.
Like these kids were like halfing these cans and then
all of a sudden, like the kid didn't understand what
he was doing, and he died at his friend's house
at a sleepover. So I think it's appropriate to like
bring those things up to children, just but but like
you bring them up when you hear them here, I
wouldn't let them listen to it, or you could let

(01:24:02):
them listen to certain segments like that are that are
more monitored, you know, yeah, exactly, all right. Second, do
you ever video autopsies like cocaine and a stripper's vagina?
I don't know that anything a ten year old needs
to know about. Do I ever video autopsies? I don't personally.
I've been videoed a couple times for educational purposes for

(01:24:25):
medical students and residents while I'm doing an autopsy. But
that's it, all right. Last, where did the name momm
come from this person saying that her daughter also calls
her grandmother mama, but she hasn't heard anybody else use
it before. Well, when I got pregnant with Maria, when
I was fifteen years old, my mother was thirty eight
years old, and I don't think that she was quite
ready to be called grandma and my grandmom. We called

(01:24:49):
both of my grandmom's nanny. I don't know where that
came from, but all of my cousins also call both
of our grandmoms on both sides nanny. So my mom,
I mean, like she was thirty eight, she Nanny's like
weird old and granny all this, you know. So I
guess that's why she just decided that that sounded like younger.

(01:25:13):
It's it's just like the difference between a secretary and
an administrative assistant. It's the same dance thing. I always
make a joke that when I have a kid, you'll
be like, hello, baby, my name's Nicole. I'm curious, I'll worry. Well,
I'll worry about that when the time comes. Yeah, you'll
worry about it when the time comes. But I am

(01:25:33):
curious what you're gonna pick. But I always think it's
just funny. Yeah, I mean it's easier to call her that.
I call both my grandmoms on both side momm but
they were both young, so I think that's understandable. It
is like a more fresh grandma name. Yeah. I remember
saying it a lot in school though, and people being like,
who were you talking about? And I'm like, my grandmom.

(01:25:56):
They're like, well, I just called my grandmom grandmam. Well
everybody's got different names whatever. Yeah, especially I really love
Ricky's cousin Devin. They call her mom honey. I think
it's so cute. Yeah, that is cute. Yeah, so everybody
has their own thing. But I don't know. I think
it's I think it's a cute name. It's perfect for Beth.
We just end up calling her Beth anymore. Why do

(01:26:18):
they call her honey? I don't really know the origin story.
I'm sure they're gonna text me after they listen to this,
but I think it's just such a cute name.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Yeah, I probably like want to go with something like
along those lines. Yeah, just something fun and unique, and
then they always know it's you because I'm always like,
because I don't know, we just call mo mom anymore. Well,
we call her Beth b e F because that's how
pop up says her name. But yeah, when you call
both of them the same thing, like, how did you

(01:26:48):
differentiate between I also call momm kitty and I don't
know why. Yeah, I don't know. We all call each
other kitty, though, I don't know where that ended up
coming from. Yeah, I don't know. My great grandmother, my
dad's side's real name was Kitty, So that's kidd music.
What's her like real name Catherine, And the nickname came

(01:27:09):
out of it was Kitty. Yeah, I mean, that's so
like retro, but it's kind of I don't know. I
don't know how I feel about it these days modern times.
I don't know. I always think, you know, like really
retro names are like, you know, like kitty Bunny is
another sixties one that was huge. Yeah, I don't know

(01:27:29):
what's that short for. I don't know, Barber or something.
I don't know. It had to be Barber or something
along those lines, because where else would it come from.
Some of the nicknames peej No, that's inside joke, inside jokes.
All right. On that note, all right, if you guys

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So yeah, we'll have some coming up around the holidays
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