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December 23, 2024 47 mins

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On today’s MKD, we kick off the week with a chilling story about a woman set on fire on an NYC train.

In freak accidents and true crime, we delve into the hospitalization of a boy struck by a drone, a man spraying pesticides on food at Walmart, and the theft of a young man's prosthetic leg. 

Finally, in medical and other death news, we explore using vagina creams to cure wrinkles and the possibility of Google Street View solving a murder. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
the story of the day. This first one is so
absolutely disturbing. So on Sunday morning, around seven thirty am,

(00:30):
this woman was seemingly minding her business, sleeping on the
train in Brooklyn, and suddenly this guy went up to
her and lit her clothing on fire.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
What a fucking psychopath for real.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, this story just keeps getting worse because within seconds
she's fully engulfed in flames, and then the guy seemingly
leaves the train car and sits on the bench and
just watches her fully on fire. And it also seems like,
of course there's videos of this, because why wouldn't people
be around and not take videos of this? Right, they're
just you know, everybody's just walking by, seemingly not doing anything,

(01:03):
and the guy that set her on fire is just
casually sitting on a bench watching her fully engulfed in
flames on the train.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, the video is.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Going around viral, I'm sure all of you have seen it,
and more videos are coming out. I just saw one
two seconds ago before we started recording which is even
more disturbing. And you could see the woman is so
on fire. All of her clothes are burnt off at
this point, and she's standing there naked and her entire

(01:33):
back is just on fire, and like, miss it's missing
and a lot of so I posted this video in
the grosser room last night, and a lot of the
comments were like, why is the woman just standing there
and she's not screaming her head off? And I just
I don't really think that people understand the full extent

(01:55):
of these injuries, and like, what would happen if your
body was actually on fire? And you would think that
you would be running around screaming for people.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
To help you.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
But she's when these videos are taken. She's at the
end of her life. And that's proven because she was
pronounced dead a short while after these videos were taken.
And you know what happens is your body when you
catch on fire, all of your muscles contract, It causes

(02:24):
your joints to flex, you can't really even move your body,
All of your soft tissues shrink, your organs even can shrink,
and all of the nerves are burnt at this point
through I mean, when I'm looking at this lady. There's
just absolutely even if they did try to extinguish her,
there's no way she would have survived that. I understand

(02:49):
what everybody's saying though, like why isn't anybody helping her?
But like, honestly, I would if I saw someone in
front of me, I would be I would want to
help them, But like, also, I'm not catching on fire
to save someone else's life like that. Yeah, I guess
it's just the video is just so disturbing watching this

(03:10):
woman hunched over, fully engulfed in flames. I was trying
to talk to Gabe about this earlier today and just
be like, what would you do in this situation? And
he was like, you could always put somebody out with water, right,
And of course we see from the pictures of afterwards
she's covered in this white dust because they did end
up using a fire extinguisher on her. But I was
asking him, like, can you get chemical burns from putting

(03:33):
a fire extinguisherer on skin? And he said that was
also a possibility, but obviously when you're on fire like that,
you have worse concerns than yeah, you know, I mean,
yeah exactly, And I mean I don't I just don't
know because I'm I'm not there, and like watching the video,
you're just like, Okay, clearly there's a guy filming it,

(03:53):
which was the first video that was going around viral.
But now there's another one from a different angle, and
you could hear the other guy in the other video,
because but this guy is actually closer. And what I
wanted to tell you, because you didn't even see this
video yet, the one that I just saw, so the
one that I was talking about, that the woman's like
you could clearly see her naked standing there and stuff.

(04:16):
The fricking psychopath that set her on fire is standing
there with a shirt in front of the open door
of the subway car and waving it in front of her,
like trying to put the flames out with by waving it.
And a cop comes over to him and is like,
get out of the way kind of or move over,
don't stand here. Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
At first they realized that this guy that was sitting
on the bench and doing that was the person that
actually did it. And it seems like later in the
day they had put out a picture of him, and
then these high school students had seen him on another
train car and called nine one one and reported him.
So then he did end up getting arrested, and he's
been charged with first and second degree murder as well
as first degree arson. Yeah. Yeah, And there's another video

(05:01):
going around on social media right now of this guy,
and it's it's kind of like, not, oh, maybe it's
this guy.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's this guy.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
He's wearing that same AzaC gray shirt with the right
the white graphic on the back of it, and he's
drunk as hell speaking and he's he's talking about how
he's annoyed about being drunk and people not leaving them
alone or something like that. I don't know the extent
of it, but just trying to figure out like what

(05:31):
his motive was. But I just don't even care. Like,
even if you're drunk as hell and you're pissed off
at the world, like to do something like that is
just completely psychotic. I don't know what else to say
about it. It's just so it's so freaking disturbing that
that shit like this just happens. And and like I

(05:52):
don't know how the subway is set up, Like is
there a fire extinguisher right there? Like the cops are
just kind of maybe just like pacing around because they
don't know what the hell to do, Like you can't,
like if a person's on fire, like that, right, you
should stop jop and roll all that stuff that we
learned in school. But this is like, well beyond the
point of this. Like, I, if you have a fire blanket,

(06:12):
you could throw it on top of the person and
try to help them out, But like, what are you
gonna do as a person? Like really, this video just
truly seemed like some end of the world shit, you know,
when you're like looking at something. This is so horrific.
This must not be real. Can you imagine being on
the train this early in the morning and just seeing
something like this? No, I can't, but apparently people in

(06:36):
New York are seeing, you know what. The most outrageous
part of this story is that apparently the governor was
like on social media either like shortly after this happened,
saying that the subway is the safest it's ever been,
or something like what the fuck is happening right now
in the world for real? Yeah, just people are so

(06:59):
checked out and out of tune of like reality and
what's happening, and you're just like lady, maybe crime is
down overall, but like, this is not the time to
be talking about this. Well, do you think that was
some sort of response this guy doing it, like oh
you think it's safe, I'm gonna fuck up your day
type of thing, or do you think it just happens. No,

(07:19):
I think that it happened. And then she went on
Instagram later and said that like there's it's actually great,
Like I went on her Instagram to check it out.
What's her name, Kathy Hochel or something, So I go
on her Instagram to see this video that everybody's talking
about how she's like checked out and all this stuff,

(07:42):
and the comments underneath of it are just like okay, So, yeah,
one day ago she posts this this thing that says,
in March, I took action to make our subway safer
for millions of people who take the trains every day.
Right since since de pointing National Guard and the NYPD
safety efforts and adding cameras to all subway cars, crime

(08:06):
is going down and ridership is going up. There's nine
hundred and twelve comments underneath of this right now, Okay
that are just like your fucking asshole, you know what
I mean? And like it's like every single one, Like
one of them says, did she check the news today?
Like how do you not know that this happened in

(08:26):
your city? And went on and posted this, Dude, I'm
so outrageous.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
To me, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I think with all the other issues we have
going on in the world, people aren't really that concerned
about subways safety over everything else happening. And I think
every time, you know, we've talked about a couple of
incidents on trains on this show, and every single time
we have people leaving comments of horrific things that have
happened to them. I mean you could probably ask anybody

(08:52):
you know that's ever been on any type of train
and they've had some type of situation happen.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I mean, it's just it's not just that though, it's
just like the general I feel like, and maybe I'm
just gonna sound like an old person, like I just
feel like this kind of stuff didn't happen so often before.
But maybe you don't know because there was no social
media and stuff when I was younger. But it's it's
just it's so I don't know, what the.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hell do you even say about this? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I definitely think in some capacity we're facing this crisis
of just having no value on human life anymore. I mean,
we've just been seeing it a lot, with these horrific
things happening, and I think this is a prime example
of that. And I don't know if it's directly correlated
to social media or what.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Damn video games. It's the damn video game.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I mean they've been saying for decades that it's
the video games. But you know what though, honestly, like
could that could have a little bit of a you know,
they try to say they were saying it was and
then they're saying it's not. But it's just kind of
like I was thinking about this when I was at
the movies the other day, Like they're every single movie
that's coming up, with the previews and stuff. It's just

(10:03):
like people are just like pulling out guns just like
killing people all over the place all the time, and
it's just like I feel like we're like really desensitized
to it. So I'm sure that it's probably just like
a combination of all this stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh yeah, absolutely, all.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Right, So we're not going to do any celebrity news
this week because they are just too important to be
working this week and there's not really anything exciting going
on with them, or at least exciting to us.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
To talk about.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's not that they're not doing anything this week, they're
pr companies are taking everybody, every one's everybody's off, so
it's a light news week. But yeah, let's get into
this horrible freak accident that happened.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
All right.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So the topic on everyone's minds, especially in New Jersey,
is drones. So in the last couple of years, they've
been doing these fancy light shows with drones. Have you
ever seen one of these? No, I'm like, we're having
a drone situation in New Jersey right now that I've
talked about a couple of times, and I don't know
where we're at with that, because all of a sudden,

(11:04):
it's just like I told you this was gonna happen,
that they were gonna be doing whatever they're doing, and
then then one day they're just gonna start fading off
and not be here anymore. And then like we're never
gonna find out what that was about. But but you
said you saw them last night, right, Yeah, so I
I feel like the last time we talked about it,
you had asked me if I had seen any and

(11:24):
I was like, you know what, I they weren't really
on my radar, and I thought that I had maybe
seen when we were driving to New York. And then
all of a sudden that literally that night it had
to be the Thursday recording. That night, I was going
to a Flyers game. I go outside at like four
forty five, plug my Christmas lights in. It's like not
really dark yet, and then I went outside a half
hour later. And I live in an area where there's

(11:47):
a lot of farms and open skies versus the area
in which you live in. And when I went outside,
there was like fifty of them. And I'm like, there's
just in that day. Didn't They say, Oh, you're not
seeing anything? And I'm like, well, what is it because
I've never you know, none of us are seeing anything.
It's just they're just planes that have always been there.
You're just totally crazy. Well anyway, like no, like drones,

(12:08):
I've never seen them doing like an actual.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Show.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like Okay, So a couple of months ago, the Eagles
played their first game in Brazil, so we had gone
for my husband's birthday to the stadium to watch it,
and they did one of these drones shows there, which
is the first time I ever saw one. It's basically
like they have like hundreds of drones going up and
they can make unique shapes. I think Disney might do
this because they could, you know, create like the Mickey

(12:34):
Mouse shape and all the princesses and whatever, and they
can really do a lot. And when I was at
Link in Financial Field, they were doing one where they
like did an Eagles player. They did a big bird,
you know, they had the Eagles like logo and everything,
and I guess in principle it's cool, but it's just
like kind of creepy when they do the human shaped
ones that are like actually moving and mimicking throwing footballs

(12:57):
and stuff. But anyway, in this story, they were doing
one of the light shows in Orlando. Wasn't at Disney,
but it seems like they were having a technical issue
with the coordination of the drones and then some of
them started falling from the sky and then hitting people
below them, and one of them struck this small child
in the face. And this kid is basically in critical
condition right now because of getting hit by this, Well,

(13:19):
the worst part is is that it did strike him
in the face, but the most impact was actually on
his chest, to the point where his mom said, you
could see the imprint from the drone on his chest,
which is freaking scary as how terrible for a child.
So he had to have open heart surgery actually and yeah,

(13:40):
and he had like blunt cardiac injury, which is what
happens when a huge blunt object hits the chest. These
kinds of injuries really only happen in severe like motor
vehicle accidents or if you get hit by a car
if you're a pedestrian, or if you're like playing sports
or something and get hit with a baitall that's going

(14:00):
really hard. But he had to get hit pretty freakin'
hard with this thing in his little chest. They had
caught him open because the mom said that he had
an injury to his heart valve, which is kind of
really rare in it when you have blunt injury to
the chest, like usually it'll just bruise the muscle of
the heart, but in this case, it tore one of

(14:21):
his valves and he had to get This is according
to the mother's statement, he had to have surgery done
to repair a valve in his heart. Like this isn't
just like okay, put out a statement, we hope that
everyone is okay kind of thing, like this kid might
be dealing with this. If he survives this, he's gonna
be dealing with complications from this, possibly for the rest

(14:43):
of his life. You're damaging his frickin' heart. You know.
I'm kind of surprised that the people that put on
these shows allow people to sit in the zone where
they're flying, you know what I mean, Because this is
technology and thinks go wrong at any time.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
So I'm just confused.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Think about like a fireworks show, for example. Rightly they
don't let people sit right underneath of where the fireworks
are going off. You have to be what did we
say it was fifty feet minimum distance? I don't know,
but I mean, really, were they sitting right underneath of
it or it just was because of the I mean
those things, once it hit, it could fly in a
different area, you know. I don't know. From the videos

(15:24):
people were posting online about it, it kind of seemed
like they were dropping straight down from the rest of
the display. I don't know, And I was trying to
look up the weight of these things, and the ones
they use in the light shows tend to be much
smaller than you know, like the sgub sized ones we're
seeing flying in the sky. But you have to think
even if sometimes five to ten pounds mixed with gravity,

(15:46):
they can really injure you. I mean, look if you
if you throw a baseball which doesn't even weigh a
pound at somebody going fast enough, you could kill them. Yeah,
so think about something that's five to ten pounds. And
that was what kind of pissed me off about the
statement that was put out by the FAA. It was
just something like, we had a show with a small

(16:08):
incident with multiple small drones, and you're just like, dude,
don't undermine the severity of this, Like a kid had
to have his freaking chest cracked open and get emergency
surgery and might have lifelong complications from this. Imagine the mother.
The mother said, it all went down so fast, and
then all of a sudden, her daughter found her son
laying in blood and like he because he was bleeding

(16:31):
from the face because the thing hit him in the
face too, and he was unconscious. Like that's fucking scary. Yeah,
of course, it's scary, and I don't know. I just
feel so bad and they need to figure this shit
out where they I'm wondering if, because these drone shows
are so new and everything, and drones are relatively new
if you think about it, if they have any regulations

(16:52):
as far as how far people need to be away
from them and everything like that, because I just think
with technology and everything there, it's as volatile as fireworks,
so you can't predict when something's gonna suddenly go wrong.
And obviously it happens so fast that what are you
gonna do to fix it?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I hate those This is really unfortunate for this family.
All right, let's talk about some really odd true crime
stories we have this week, So our favorite topic, which
is TikTok. There's this guy. He has over three hundred
thousand followers and he goes around filming what he calls
prank videos. So apparently he makes a lot of money

(17:31):
doing this, and he fixed.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
To ten thousand dollars a month. That's a shit ton
of month.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's a ton of money from influencing, making videos stuff
like that. So he, you know, thought it would be
a really good idea to go to this Walmart and
take a video of himself spraying food with pesticides, like
you know, bed bug and flea killer. Yeah, So this
particular product that he was using, I looked up the MSDS.

(18:00):
MSDS sheet is the manufacturer Safety data sheet that comes
with every single chemical that you could ever use, like
in a lab, or you could use it, or just
anything that you buy at home, depot, whatever, And these
sheets tell you exactly what chemicals are in the products
you're using and the hazards that are associated with them.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And it's funny because we've become.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Very familiar with these sheets when working in the lab,
because we work with all different sorts of chemicals and
we really just need to know like which ones are flammable,
which ones could hurt our skin, which ones are bad
to breathe in, and we have to know these sheets
inside and out. But then you think, like you buy
all these same, similar harsh chemicals in your house and
nobody even checks them out. So I looked up the

(18:45):
sheet with this product, and so they have all different
things like for skin and haling and ingesting, and then
they go from one to four, one being the least
severe or actually zero being the least severe and then
four being the most severe. And this particular product that
this guy is using, this that was for bedbugs, hot shot,

(19:07):
ultra bug, beg bug.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Why can't I say it bedbug and flea killer.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I look this up and it has a level four okay,
category four for acute intoxication for inhaling it, right, So
that is the worst score you can get for inhaling
this chemical is the worst danger that score you can
get with this chemical. And then for skin sensitizer, it

(19:37):
has a category one Reproductive toxic is category one B.
So it has been shown to give harmful side effects
to the skin. It's been shown to cause harm to
a fetus and unborn children. I mean, think about this
skin irritant allergic reactions, redness, dry and cracking of the skin.

(19:59):
I irritation, redness, swelling of the eyes, and it could
cause damage to fertility and the unborn child. So I'm
going to Walmart to buy pears and like or apples
or anything like that that doesn't have a skin that
would be completely peeled off of it. And you might,
just like most people when they wash vegetables, if they
even do wash them, they just go to their sink

(20:21):
and like rinse it under there for a second and
wipe it off. Right, that's not getting rid of this.
And like did they say that people actually had this
because he takes a video of himself spray and this
shit on produce at Walmart? All right, So they said
it's not clear if customers were injured from eating the
contaminated items. I feel like using the word pesticide is

(20:43):
you know, we're familiar with the term pesticide in the
sense of, like, you know, some farms use it to
get bugs off of the fruits and vegetables and everything
we're growing, right, But I feel like the more accurate
way to describe this is like man goes to home
extermination aisle takes a very toxic can of Bets bug
spray and then goes over to the food section and
starts spraying it. Yeah, Like it is not you know,

(21:05):
this like food grade pesticide at all. It's these extremely
toxic chemicals that you would get for your house. And
I think it's just fucked up. I mean, they said
he was going around the Walmart. In the video, it
showed him spraying bananas, acorn, squashed potatoes, lemons, green apples,
and roma tomatoes. And of course when they were alerted
of this, they said the Walmart employees had cleared those items,

(21:27):
thrown them out, and had cleaned the areas. But how
do you know that's the only areas he sprayed regardles well,
because he's probably on camera doing it. But this is
the thing, So how did they find out. They found
out after he posted the video. I mean, the video
was posted and it was live for a while and
now has been taken down because okay, obviously he's been arrested.
So think about this, like if we did, let's say,

(21:48):
use us for example, if we were ever to use
the video, it would be usually you don't like make
a video and post it right away. He probably recorded
himself doing it, went home edited it. I don't know
a lot of those TikTok people are really about the
posting right away well regardless though even did he post
it right away though we don't even know that he

(22:08):
posted it right away. No, so like did he go
out in his car and do stuff or whatever, like
he wasn't doing it live right, so we don't. We
don't know, And they got alerted because people probably were
like uh, like completely, Like this has gone way beyond
a prank video. This is disturbing and called the Walmart

(22:29):
you know what I mean, Like, all I'm trying to
do is set the tone to say, like a lot
of time went by in between him doing this and
them actually knowing about it. Yeah, and people are in
Walmart all day long, so people probably bought that shit. Yeah.
And the thing is he didn't even seem, you know,
regretful of this at all. He was bragging to police

(22:50):
about how successful his like online presence content creation's going
for him. He says, you know, he's a self described villain, Like, oh,
you're so badass poisoning every buddy in Arizona, right, Like
what is wrong with people? I think that him making
I mean, listen, six to ten thousand dollars a month

(23:11):
is more than I made as a full time PA. Yeah, okay,
with a master's degree and like working my ass off
at the hospital and like diagnosing cancer and shit right
as a CIDO attack as a PA. Way more money
than I made, is that? Right? So you have to
sit there and think like that, this is a lot

(23:31):
of money for a guy that's just making stupid videos.
He is completely blinded by the fact that he's making
that kind of money that he's not even paying attention
to the obvious. And as soon as he posted that video,
everybody was like whoa, Like, you've crossed the line clearly.

(23:52):
And it's scary that he didn't even think that there
was anything wrong with this. I mean, that's what's alarming
about this. And it's dude, it's not just him. This
is all over the place. Yeah, And I'm I would
be a little warried too that the store didn't know
about it until after the video went online, because you'd
want to hope that somebody working at the store saw

(24:13):
him doing it, right, I don't know, I don't know.
It's just like, I guess he's getting in trouble now,
like they're saying that he can. He's facing for poisoning,
felony charges and misdemeanors including criminal damage, endangerment, and theft.
So I guess did he actually just take it out

(24:34):
of the aisle at Walmart and start sprang like he
didn't even pay for it? He like stole he stole
it kind of right, and they should it says it
could go anywhere from five to ten years in prison. Like,
I think this is kind of a big fucking deal
because when I take my produce home, I certainly I'm
like rinsing it because some of the workers in the

(24:57):
fields might have shit in the field and got poop
on their hand, and I don't want to get a
fecal world transmission of something. I'm not washing it because
I think some psycho was spraying some shit on it. Yeah,
even if you watched it with poison on it, I mean,
is it even gonna get it out, doesn't it? I
don't know, But nobody's washing it like that, And I
don't know if you even could, honestly, Like, I don't know,

(25:20):
but I don't even want to. I mean really that
this is on the same lines of the person that's
like putting shit in in Thailand all packages back in
the eighties and trying to kill people, Like yeah, yeah,
even though this guy wasn't, I don't think that he
was like sadistically went out and was trying to hurt people. Yeah,
but you can't be that fucking stupid. It's yeah, it's

(25:41):
like just like negligence and just and it's scary for
any person of that level to be out in society.
Really like he should be in jail. No, I agree
with you. I think does one hundred percent Warrens Jail's like.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
What's what's the next what's the next one?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Because they're saying other types of videos he was posting
online for him putting like bake in eggs in people's
laundry at the laundromat, which is like, you know, that's
fucked up and it's annoying and I'd punch somebody in
the base for doing that, but you're not poisoning that
person exactly, Like that's the thing. But he he just
was like looking for the money and just oh, what's

(26:16):
the next one upper thing I could do?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
And yeah, complete more on all right.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Recently, this twenty year old was out to dinner with
his friends in Portland. Since he was fourteen, he had
a prosthetic leg due to having a rare bone cancer,
and I guess at some point before going out or
during to dinner, he decided he wanted to switch out
his prosthetic leg with another one that he had in
the trunk of his car. And then after dinner he
went outside to realize that his tools that were in

(26:46):
his trunk from his job and the spare prosthetic leg
were stolen directly from the car. It sounds so weird
to just say like, oh, I'm gonna just switch out
my leg. Yeah, but it's probably like his going out leg. Like,
you know, I saw this woman down the shore. I
thought it was so cool this summer and she had

(27:08):
her leg was amputated and she had this but it
was the summer, so she was wearing shorts and it
had like a sandal on it and painted toenails on
this leg of hers. And I'm thinking, like for situations,
like you just have all different legs to put on
in different situations. Yeah, I mean, not to bring everything

(27:28):
back to Real Housewives, but there was an iconic Real
Housewives of New York, Aviva Dreacher, who had a prosthetic
leg from a childhood injury where she had to have
her leg amputated, and she had one for high heels,
one for flats. She would bring them all to the
nail salon to get them painted the same color so
she could switch them out as needed, which.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Is it's kind of I mean, it's kind of cool,
but I thought it was cool.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
But yeah, this is you know this This kid's leg
was eight thousand dollars. It was custom fit to his body.
His family was saying that this was like his good
one essentially, and the other one just didn't fit him
as well. So it's been making his life harder, and
it just begs a question like who would steal anything that,
let alone who would steal a prosthetically? So this is

(28:09):
to the criminal's defense. I was looking at the picture
of the leg, So this is think about whenever you
see a runner that's an amputee or something, they have
this leg that looks like a spring kind of you know,
that was this particular leg that he had in the
trunk of his car. When you look at a picture

(28:30):
of it, if it was laying inside of a car
with a bunch of tools, somebody might have taken it
thinking that it was some kind of expensive tool or
some kind of Yeah, it's stainless steel and black. It
doesn't look like like when I first read this story,
I'm thinking like, Okay, this is a flesh color leg

(28:50):
with like a shoe attached to it, Like who the
hell would take that? But I think that this person
probably just was like, oh, that thing looks really expensive.
Maybe it's like a carjack or something I don't know,
just like thinking it's something that isn't a prosthetic leg.
It just doesn't scream prosthetic leg to me. I mean, listen,
it freaking sucks for this guy. And I hope that

(29:13):
by them putting out this story, that person would have
any decency and just like leave it at a police
station or something so the guy could have it back,
you know what I mean. Yeah, but you know that's
not gonna happen, because even if they do see this
in the news and they feel bad, they're not going
to risk getting caught at this point and being a
good I mean, you're clearly not a good person if
you're stealing stuff out of people's cars.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So no, I know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It definitely is sad, and the family's trying to raise
some money so he could get a new leg, and
the uncle said that he's being a pretty good sport
about it. But it's just like another edition of the
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Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, medical news.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
So this dermatologist has taken to TikTok to share a
very interesting tip about wrinkles. Care to share. Yeah, she's
saying that you shouldn't get botox or fillers, but you
should put a vagina cream on your face. What could
that possibly do? So she's speaking of estrogen cream, which
is usually used in patients that are perimenopausal or postmenopausal

(30:51):
because sometimes when well most times when you go through that,
you lose like moisture in your vagina and it becomes
out atrophy, it becomes thinner, and you put this cream
on to kind of give it back some moisture, this
estrogen cream. So the cream is used because you know,
the dryness could cause itchiness and it could cause painful sex.

(31:13):
So that's why you would put it on your vagina.
But they're saying that if this woman is saying that
if you put it on your face that it actually
makes your face look less wrinkle than it kind of
plumps it up and makes it look younger.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So, of all the weird TikTok trends, do you think
this is valid or do you think people should steer
clear of it. There's been studies done on it that
says that there's actually showing that there was a six
month treatment of this estrogen cream on the face showed
that there was a decrease in wrinkled depth, and it

(31:50):
showed that there was more elasticity and firmness. So I mean,
these women had reported that their wrinkles had decreased between
sixty one and one after using this estrogen cream. I wonder,
as myself, as a person that's scared to death of needles,
if I should try going about this. This this is

(32:11):
the thing number one estrogen cream. You can't just get
it at CBS, like, you gotta get a prescription for it.
And if you get it, like I don't think it's
FDA approved to put on your face. So this is
like an off label situation. Okay, So I wouldn't do
this just by watching a TikTok video or to listening

(32:34):
like what this particular study said, because there could be like, oh,
like maybe it decreases your wrinkles, but you'll grow like
a third leg out of your face or something. I
don't know, so like, don't take my medical advice on that.
I'm just saying that in theory, it sounds like it
could work because and it's not really a stretch, like
the skin on your vulva and your vagina is you know,

(32:58):
not that much. Your vagina isn't ten technically skin, it's mucosa.
But if it's safe to put down there, then it
should be safe to put on your face. And if
it's plumping up your vagina and your vulva, then it
should plump up your face. Like in theory, it makes sense.
But estrogen's a hormone and there are risks associated with
using that stuff, so it's not like completely benign, so

(33:20):
just look into it. But yeah, for a person like
you that has a needle phobia, it might work.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, other death news, This one is so crazy. So
this thirty three year old guy had gone to visit
his romantic partner in Spain. After a while, his family
started to get suspicious though, because he started sending text
messages saying he was gonna get rid of his phone.
I mean, would this not be rediflag number one? If
you got this text from me?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, like, why would anybody get rid of their phone?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Also, like, my phone's up my butt, So I'm pretty
sure you'd just be like, something must be horribly wrong
or this just can't skid. You know, people do this,
People in my life, including you, have done this for years.
Just like I deleted my Facebook, I deleted my Instagram. No,
the number one offender of this is Selena Gomez, who
like every other week is like, I'm off of Instagram.

(34:11):
This is a terrible place to be, and then three
days later she'll make a post but thanks for the emmy. No,
I mean I understand the wanting to do that, because
there's times that I just like, because I didn't really
have social media before I started the Instagram and stuff,
and I just there's times like I missed that life
of just not ever having to go on and check

(34:32):
and then the horrible stuff that comes with it, you know.
But but to get rid of your entire phone is
a whole other ballgame, and it's it's it's very sus Yeah,
as the kids would says. The kids would say, all right,
so back to this story that the family reported him
missing at some point, and the investigators started looking into

(34:53):
the case, and eventually, at some point they got to
checking Google street View and came across this image of
a man pulling a human shape package out of a trunk.
I've loved this so much, so it's like in the
area this guy went missing. Of course, this is a
glaring red flag. They're saying that this was not a
concrete piece of evidence, but it certainly like pushed them

(35:13):
in the right direction to find some suspects. And they
did end up finding the missing guy dismembered in a
local cemetery, so it was more than likely him. I
guess you would say, did they do so, Did they
say that there was a connection with this guy and
the body in the trunk and all this stuff, or
they're just not being very forthcoming. I think they maybe

(35:34):
don't want to admit that Google street View possibly solved
this murder. The craziest part I was reading in this
article is that it had been fifteen years since the
Google street View car went down the street. Are you
familiar with how Google makes these maps? They have these
like cars drive around with cameras on them. So I'm
also thinking this person saw this car coming down the

(35:55):
street and then was like, I'm still gonna pull it out.
I'm just confused by this.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But the picture is I mean, it's it's pretty damning evidence.
I don't know, they're like the body else. It could
be like Christmas decoration or something.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think that this is not the first time that
Google's reviews captured a crime. So there was when when
the when the Idaho student murders happened, there was like
these videos going around social media and read it and
stuff of what was appeared to be Brian Koberger in
like one of the pictures around their house or whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
If the problem is with all of these platforms that
people post fake shit just to get clicks, like things
that don't even exist. They're like, and now I've seen
more and more of just people posting AI stuff that
just like isn't even anything that happened, that's you know,
or photoshopped or whatever. So but that was the thing
that was going around for a while and that I

(36:56):
was just like, oh shit, that would be kind of interesting,
but I don't know if that if there's any truth
to that, you know. Yeah, And I'm just also wondering,
like did the person Do you know if the Google
street cars they have to be operated by a person?
I'm assuming right, Yeah, I mean there are those cars
that drive by themselves and stuff, but not around here. Yes,

(37:17):
I've never seen anything like that here. That's like a
California thing. I don't often look at the Google street View.
Only sometimes if I'm going to a brand new place
and I need like a layout, or if I'm staying
at a hotel and i want to see what's nearby,
you know, something like that. I don't really just look
at it that much, but I guess it's interesting, Like
what if you're just like freely roaming around and then
you come across a picture like this. No, it's actually

(37:40):
really cool because they probably come across a lot of
cool shit all the time. It has to help solve
crimes more than once, like for real.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I mean I think it's pretty cool that this this
just happened, and it had been so long since they
went down around in this town in general, and then
they just so happen to go down the street at
the same exact time that it did. There's literally nothing
else this could be. It's a human. It's a human
like wrapped in a sheet or a garbage bag or something.
It's truly nothing else it could be. No, All right,

(38:09):
let's move on to Questions of the Day. Every Friday
on the at mother Nose Death Instagram account, you guys
can head over to our story and ask whatever you
want first, would you ever do an autopsy on a mummy?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Sure? I mean, this is the thing. There's ethics. It's
more of an ethical thing than a like are you
grossed out by a thing?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Right? Because we I think we were talking about this
a few episodes back, like these people were buried in
such a way in these hidden tubes. We were talking
about it with sta sarcophagus, Like it's just like you
you put these people in these tombs, embedded in these
walls that for a reason, And it wasn't like it

(38:48):
wasn't like, hey, hopefully somebody finds this in a couple
hundred years and pulls it up and starts, you know,
messing with the body. Like they kind of put it
away because they wanted the body to rest in peace,
and a lot of religions are very specific about what
happens after you die. I am not like a religious person,

(39:09):
so I don't really care about that too much, but
you have to respect that other people do care about that.
So from that perspective, I wouldn't like if they were
just like, we're gonna do it, so if.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
You don't do it, then we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Then then then maybe I'd be like, all right, well,
I guess I'll do it whatever, because I would be
just super interested to see inside. But honestly, like, I'm
not really sure how enjoyable an autopsy on a mummy
would be because there's just mummified. Is like leather cutting leather,
It's not just going to have the same effect. It
might actually be quite difficult to open up. But I

(39:47):
definitely am interested in when they do the imaging and
look inside and everything. And they had one opened up
at the Penn Museum, which they probably don't have out anymore,
but they should. They were talking about all the different
pathology they've found, and I thought that that was super cool.
All right, what is the dress code when you do

(40:08):
an autopsy? So there's there's something when you work in
the hospital called universal precautions, and that's just like assuming
that every single person is infected to some level. So
we would during any standard autopsy, I, you know, I

(40:29):
would wear scrubs of work all the time. But on
top of that, I would wear like sleeve protectors, which
are like these I don't know what that material is.
It's like this weird coated paper material, but you put
it over top of your sleeves, and then I would
put them over top of my legs too, and then

(40:51):
shoe protectors, which in the in the morgue, I used
to just keep like a pair of rain boots in
there and just use those and keep them there all
the time because they get soaked sometimes, especially with the
cases we had that people had like a lot of
fluid and stuff in them. A bonnet over our hair,
face shield N ninety five mask, which I'm not I

(41:17):
wasn't ever a fan of. I mean, we're supposed to
wear them, but I just like can't breathe in them,
so I hated them. But definitely like some kind of
a mask over your face just that's more just to
protect you from fluids, but especially there could be cases
that you're doing a patient. I mean really, the N
ninety five mask was originally designed to prevent you from
catching TB from somebody, which is not common, but it

(41:41):
still happens, and it's happened to us a couple of
times where we would get a specimen that said it
was a tumor and then we end up cutting it
open and ended up being TB and then like everybody's
exposed to it and breathing it, you know, so you
just always just assume, like if you just treat every
single patient like they have hepsy and HIV and TV,

(42:02):
then you're fine. So then there's other precautions. Like we
were talking about, we didn't do that. We didn't put
that episode up yet with the Questions episode No, that
will be coming up next week for you, all right,
A lot of people actually ask you about this particular thing. Yeah,
so this is a spoiler alert alert. One of the
questions is about if I've ever refused an autopsy, and

(42:25):
I was talking about CJD, which is a pre on disease,
and that's that's something that would have extra precautions that
you would use during the autopsy. But that's not something
that we would do on a normal case. But yeah,
just I mean just think about it, like, you don't
want body fluids getting in your eyes, in your mouth especially.

(42:47):
I mean it gets on your clothes sometimes, but that
could wash off. It's just like you want to try
to have as much protection as possible. Oh in apron,
some people will like go all out and wear like
a full tiebex suit. That's ridiculous in my opinion, But yeah,
just And also I wear a couple pairs of gloves,
usually a pair of gloves, and then I put a

(43:10):
pair of cut gloves on top of those gloves, and
then another pair of gloves on top of that. All right,
what are we baking for the holidays this year? Well,
maybe you guys could help me out, because I just
made this stuff called Christmas Crack, which consisted of these
pretzels and a caramel that you make and a chocolate

(43:31):
that you make, and they taste really delicious. But I
can't get my caramel to be hard like a piece
of candy, so unless I keep it in the freezer,
then it's kind of mushy. I don't know. I thought
it was pretty good consistency. I'm like, look, I have
a piece of it right now. Like it's I could
like stick my finger through it.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Look how soft it is.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Oh yeah, you shouldn't be able to so so, but
if you want to give this out as gifts or
something to the neighbors, like what do you do? You
don't want to say it has to It shouldn't have
to stay in the free.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
It's like weird. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I haven't so, I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I don't know how to cook.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Really, yeah, I've only the only time I've made caramel
from scratch is when I made this, like, uh, this
turtle pie. It was like a brownie bass with a
I think it was a cheesecake. It was a brownie bass,
and then it was a regular cheesecake. And then you
made like homemade caramel the drizzle on top. But that
recipe needed it to be softer, So I don't know

(44:30):
about making it more firm, but I think you're almost there.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
It tastes good at least. Well, what are you making
for Christmas? Eve?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
M So I'm making my honey whipped ricotta appetizer. It
really is good. And then and then I'm making I
bought a lot of ricotta. I'm making a canoley pie, which.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Is really good.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I made thumb prints this year, which I normally don't,
and Gabe said they were good, and you s that
they were good. And tomorrow I'm making which my dad's
mom used to always make when I was little, which
she got like an oreo pie crust and then put
peppermint ice cream in it and topped it with more
oreos And that was one of my favorite things when
I was a little kid. So I'm gonna make that
for tomorrow too. Okay, so we're gonna have lots of dessert.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, but we're big bakers. I mean, I bake a
lot during the year, but I like baking because I
like having my own like peppermint flavored stuff and just
fun cookies and everything. But that's it. We hope you
guys have a really great holiday coming up. And it's
been an awesome year and we thank you guys for everything. Bye, guys,

(45:42):
have an ice Christmas if you celebrate. Thank you for
listening to mother nos death. As a reminder, my training
is as a pathologist assistant. I have a master's level
education and specialize in anatomy and pathology at education. I
am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed or

(46:03):
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licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social media
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my experience working in pathology, so they can make healthier
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(46:25):
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