Man Pees on Plane Passenger, Surgeon Catches Cancer From Patient, Selena Killer Files For Parole, Dog Saves Owner's Life, and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Happy New Year, Welcome to Mother Knows That. This is
our first episode of twenty twenty five, and a lot

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has happened over the past couple weeks since before we
went on our little break before Christmas. Well, technically we
did release an episode last week after the New Year break,
but this is our first week break. Wait, what episode?
We had a six shocking story? Yeah, but that's that
wasn't a news episode. No, it wasn't a news episode,

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and we recorded that quite a while before it came out.
So even when I was editing it the day before
it came out, I was like, wow, I don't even
remember recording this. And it was only two weeks. We
did a lot of work before Christmas, so we could
be off for a little bit. But I took a
road trip with the girls and Gabe, and you were

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just kind of relaxing at home and still holding down
the ford over here. So and of course every time
you're like, OK, okay, I'm going on a two week
road trip, I'm like, yes, I have off for two weeks.
I'm gonna get so much done. And every single time
I get sick. So that's what I was dealing with.
It was like the craziness of the holiday. And then

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you know, when I was finally like, cool, I have
a couple days, maybe I'll go like shopping or do
something fun, know, a cold strikes. And then that led
me up until pretty much today. So really enjoyable as always, Yes, exactly.
So all right, we've been a lot of shit has
happened since since Christmas, really, and so we decided that

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this week we're gonna do a couple true crime stories
because most of the the news that have happened this
week that have been really or the past two weeks
that have been really dramatic, have been true crime stories.
So we'll touch on a couple of them today. But
on Thursday, we're gonna do a special true crime only
episode with a special guest. Yeah. That's gonna be really fun. Yeah,

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I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. All right, should we
kick it off? Yeah, let's do the story of the day,
all right. So last week, this guy was on a
United flight. He was going from San Francisco to the
Philippines with his stepdaughter. So after about four hours, he
said he was sleeping and his stepdaughter saw this stranger
suddenly get up from his seat. He walked over to

(02:39):
her stepdad and then he peed on him. So this
is my question, Like he pulled his penis out and
pede on the guy because otherwise, Like otherwise he had
to have, right, because if the guy just stood up
next to him and pede, it wouldn't have gotten out
of his pants. It would have dribbled down his pants, right,
So he pulled out his penis and pede on a

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person on the airplane, He had to have done it
that way because how else are you going to pee
on somebody like that unless you're sitting on their lap
and you pee yourself, which obviously that didn't seem to happen.
And the stepdaughter said that he woke up in the
middle of it and just thought he was in a dream,
so he wasn't even reacting at first to it because

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he was like, there's no way this person is peeing
on me right now. Yeah, I mean, like we can't
fault him, right, Most people don't wake up from a
nap and have someone urinating on them, so we could
understand that. No, and apparently this is not the only
time this has happened. Apparently there was a flight many
years ago where a person peed on another passenger and

(03:44):
they were arrested for it. In this case, it doesn't
seem like this guy was arrested, but he has been
banned from flying on United. I don't know if he's
banned from flying on every other commercial airliner as well. Yeah,
that was my question too, because it's like, oh, who cares,
there's so many other airlines. But so what happened when
the when the daughter saw this, and what happened. So

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basically they go up to the flight attendant and they're like,
you know this, this stranger just peed on my stepfather
and they said, please don't confront him because they're scared
of him getting violent. They didn't make an emergency landing
or anything, but they gave the man that was peed
on some pajamas so he could wear. That he could
wear for the rest of the flight. And then when

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they got to the airport in the Philippines, they said
that there was some passenger disagreement or something, and that's
when they decided they were going to ban him from
flying on any future flights. And apparently the guy apologized
and was begging them not to press charges, but like,
what happened? Why did you pee on a stranger? Yeah?
Is it possible that he was also on like ambient

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or something and got up to go to the bathroom
and was kind of I don't know, high or drunk
or something. It just didn't realize that he wasn't in
the bathroom because it's all doesn't seem like there was
any kind of a fight, that they knew each other
or anything. It's just kind of random that you would
get up and pee on somebody. I mean, aside from

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it being just gross, there's a little there's not really
a risk of infection for the most part. You can
carry viruses in bacteria and you're urine and if you're
urinees bloody, you can in theory you could transmit blood
born pathogens that way. But I mean, it's just it's

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just mostly gross, right, Like it's disgusting for someone to
pee on somebody. It's not it's definitely not cool, but
all of I think the daughter was like really upset
about the way that the airline handled it. Well. I
guess when you think of the other case that they're
talking about, that that person got arrested and It's like,

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do you just let somebody go for doing this with
a slap on the wrist, like you can fly on
this airline anymore. I don't think they should have made
an emergency landing or anything, but I don't know. I think,
you know, United's facing a lot of backlash for how
they handled it and asking the person that was peed
on not to confront the man. And I don't know

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what you would really do in that situation. They can't
just land the plane because of it, But should they
have detained him in some type of way so he
couldn't have done it to somebody else. I'm telling you
that we had a similar situation. I've already talked about
this on the show when me and my friend Andrea
were going to a PA conference years ago and some
guy was jerking off on the airplane in front of us,

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sitting right next to us, and we told that the
airplane the flight attendants, and they just said, listen, this
is your only option. The flight's full. We can't move you.
We could tell the pilot and the pilot can make
an emergency landing, or you could just deal with it.
And well, they stood there and they kind of like
watched over the situation just to make sure that we

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weren't getting like sexually assaulted or anything. But other than that,
what else can they do. I do understand why they
told them not to confront the passenger, because you can't
be having shit like that going down when you're up
in the air and there's nothing that you can do
about it, especially flying to like Philippines. Were they over
the ocean and there was no chance of them landing

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anytime soon. I mean, you have to think that there's
there's hundreds of other people in the flight and their
lives are in danger as well, you know, and it's
just Pete. It's pete, dude, just like it. I agree,
it sucks, right, but like it. With that thought, though,
what about the person sitting next to the pier, So

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then were they also keeping a watchful eye on everybody
else he interacted with for the duration? You want them
to land the airplane in the ocean and have people
like use their inflatable device, which, by the way, I
took an airplane yesterday to come home. So we drove
from New Jersey all the way to Las Vegas and
then flew home yesterday from Las Vegas and we went through.

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We were going through the you know, they put that
thing around their neck and they're showing you how to
inflate it, and I just said, to keep blake. What
are the fucking statistics that anyone has ever used this
thing and actually survived a flight. It's just some box
checking bullshit. Seriously, Like we were driving from Las Vegas
to New Jersey. You might have went over like a

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stream the whole time. I didn't see a body of
water the entire time we flew. Like why are we
even talking about this right now? They just have to
because it's regulation. Yeah, so anyway, like but seriously, like
that was that would have been the only option, right, Yeah,
this is why we always want to say, we always
want to talk to flight attendants to see, like, like

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what do you have as spare pair of pajamas in
case anybody like peas or poops themselves? Like you know
what I mean, there's so many questions of all this
different stuff that could happen. But I have many questions
for flight attendants. I feel like they're frequently coming up.
Yeah I know, I but like think about this, Like
you see this on there's video after video online of

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all the shit that's going down in the New York
subway system right like people are peeing all There was
a guy that was just peeing on like on his body,
all over the floor in front of a full train
of people the other day. Like when you're kind of
trapped in a situation, there's only so much stuff you
could do, you know what I mean, Yeah, I don't know.

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It definitely sucks for this guy. But what's he gonna
do at this point? I mean, I feel like they'll
probably try to sue United or something. I don't know
if they're gonna try to press charges on the guy.
What can you do. I'm not sure if you could sue,
because I mean it was it is emotional distress. For sure,
I could. That would be so terrible. I think about that,

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like if a person gets spit on or anything. It's
just like you don't ever want anybody's fluids on you.
But I don't know, I feel like this just turns
into one of those family stories that's like remember that
time that guy pete on you on the plane. Oh,
it's a good story. It's similar to my, uh, the
guy jerking off next to us on the plane that
was and like I said, I still have a picture

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of the guy. That's so whenever Andrea texts me, like,
that's her picture? Is this guy that jerked off in
front of us years ago? Okay, celebrity news, all right,
says socialite Joscelyn Wildenstein aka the Catwoman, has died at
age eighty four. This lady is outrageous looking. Yeah, she

(10:37):
was kind of you know, I feel like the first
face of botched plastic surgery. I don't think that she
considers herself to have botch plastic surgery, like I think
that she wants to look like a cat. Well, you know,
I was looking into her past a little bit, and
she had been married to some billionaire and they got divorced,
and she got she got like a settlement of two

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billion dollars and then and I think she also got
yearly installments of thirteen million dollars or something outrageous. So
she never really worked or anything. But she did file
for bankruptcy at some point eventually, but she got how
like how I just don't even understand it, because I
think people just go crazy and just start spending all
their money, not realizing there is in fact an end

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to the bank account. Instead of honey. I don't even
understand how you spend your one yearly installment, let her alone,
like it just can't wrap my brain around it. Anyway, continue,
I don't know. But when her and her husband were married,
they said a year after her marriage, this was the
late seventies, probably about the year you were born, like
seventy nine. She got they got his in hers eye surgery.

(11:45):
I wonder what he looked like, but basically she also
knew her new guy looks like he's got a ton
of work done. He's got that like pseudo Kendall looking face. Yeah,
of course. So they were in Paris over New Year's Eve.
Her partner, who is thirty, about thirty years younger than her,
said that they went to take a nap and when

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they woke up, she was cold and she has died
from an apparent pulmonary embolism. Yeah. She had a condition
called phlebitis, which is inflammation of the vessels or the
veins in your leg in particular, and that could cause
so when the veins in your leg bring the blood
back up from your legs to your heart, and if
they're inflamed and the blood can't go through them, very well,

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then the blood could clot and then those clots could
break off and travel to your lungs and cause instant death.
So that's what happened with her. That's a known risk
factor of that. But she was pretty old, right, like
she's eighty four. Well, there's speculation that she might have
been anywhere from seventy nine to eighty four, because nobody

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really knows what her birthday is, which is surprised, but
a lot of I mean, she knew that people called
her the cat Lady and nobody she said that she
wasn't particularly offended by that, like, and she had an
obsession with cats, So I think that she was like
really trying to look like one, honestly. Well, and for
people that aren't familiar with her, she did kind of

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have this similar facial structure to a lion, you know,
like she does. It's not botch plastic surgery. She doesn't
look like a human like I think because I've seen
other older women that you know, they start off with
a little bit of filler, a little bit of botox,
They get a facelift, a facelift doesn't go right, so

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then they keep going back and adjusting it more and
more and more, and then I feel like they start
getting this cat like appearance. But maybe she just leaned
into it a little more because of her procedures. I
feel like getting plastic surgery like that in the seventies
is kind of crazy too, because we have to think,
like Dolly Parton was really one of the first people

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to show off having a breast augmentation, and that was
crazy for that time. No, I know it was. It's
just do you ever look at these super like rich
and famous people, particularly I'll mention something like this woman
Michael Jackson's another obvious, but even like Chris Jenner, like
people that are like really starting to look like freaks

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with their plastic surgery, and you're like, what surgeon is
doing this work to these people that they don't even
look human anymore? Like you look at Lindsay Lohan and
you're like, oh, what a fine surgeon, Like, what a
fucking good surgeon. Yeah, but it looks like, let's say
with her, for example, though she looks incredible right now,

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but let's say she gets another procedure done in a
couple of years that gets botched, and then she keeps
going in to fix it, and then she starts taking
on this, I mean, make appearance. I don't know. I
just think that I definitely think there's like a whole
dysmorphia thing that people get that they don't have enough
in this and that. But there needs to be someone
there that's just like, Okay, let's just slow it down

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a little bit. You're not looking anywhere near a human
being anymore. But yeah, so she's dead. Sad story. Well,
another person who has died over the weekend was this influencer.
Her name was Carol Acosta. Her Instagram handle was Akila Demente. Okay,
and do you know how she was? How was she

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an influencer? Like, what was she doing? So she had
over six million followers, which is a lot a lot,
especially on today's climate with Instagram, But it seems like,
you know, she was really focused on promoting body positivity.
I know that she had released a song in recent years.
But over the weekend, she was out to dinner with

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some family and she started to choke and unfortunately died.
So I have a couple questions. Obviously, they're going to
do an autopsy. They haven't really said much, and I
think one of her family members was saying that she
was eating and she started choking and that was it,
And a couple articles said, oh, her cause of death
has not been really least, but her friends and family

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say she died from cardio pulmonary arrest, which is my
fucking favorite term of all times, because that's how everyone dies.
So that is how she died. Everyone's right, that's how
she died. But what when someone's choking like that while
they're eating. It could really be caused by two different things.
One is just like a normal choking on the food,
and then the other one is that she could have

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had some kind of an acute allergic reaction to something
that closed up her airway really tightly, very quickly. So
when they do the autopsy, they'll definitely check for that.
But one interesting thing that I wanted to note was
that this influencer was she was talking about how she
was on ozempic for weight loss, and ozempic is known

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to cause gastroparesis, which is a slowing down of the
GI track. So the theory is is that it keeps
food inside of your stomach for a longer time and
it causes digestion to be slower, which is what's just
helping with weight loss, but it also can cause GIRD,
which is gastro esophagiola reflux disease, which could cause difficulty

(17:07):
swallowing in some people. So I don't know if she
was having any of these symptoms associated with taking that medication. Yeah,
I did see that she's been promoting weight loss stuff.
She had a link in her bio for it. Yeah,
so I don't know if that's like I'm not trying
to say that that's what happened, but that's just know
that that's complications with that. So they'll do an autopsy,

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and even if she did die in or choke in
the traditional sense of food got lodged, I don't know
if they'll really be able to contribute it to any
kind of weight loss medication or whatever, because people do
just choke as well. But it's sad though she young,
she had young kids, So yeah, I mean, you don't

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want to because to me, it's like choking can happen,
but it seems like a preventable death, right, But we
don't really know exactly what caused it. So it's it's
not it's just weird in a person her age. It's
if it was a if it's a kid under five,
or it's an adult that like doesn't have teeth or
just doesn't have their neurological abilities as much as they

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used to. You know, an older person, elderly, then you
would say, okay, like they're the most common people that
choking deaths happened to. So how she was twenty something?
How old was she? Yeah, twenty seven, twenty seven, Like
a twenty seven year old healthy woman shouldn't be choking
on her food like that. But I mean, shit happen.

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So we'll say, we'll let you guys know if we
hear the autopsy cause a death. Yeah, all right. So
coming up as the thirtieth anniversary of Selena's murder when
she was twenty three years old, thirty years that is
insane to me. Well, I was what four months old
when this happened. Yeah, I wasn't and I remember when
this happened. You're just crazy baby at this time of Yeah.

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So the murderer kurt on March thirty first, nineteen ninety five,
So the anniversary is coming up, and last week her killer, Yolanda,
which was her super fan and her murderer, has now
filed for parole. Well tell them why she wants to
leave prison. She said people are threatening her when she

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if she gets released from prison, she will get like
beat in the streets by Selena fans, people like hate
this woman. She's gonna have a worse time out of prison.
I don't understand that she shouldn't even get out of prison.
Like we talk about this all the time, but I
don't think she should get out of prison because for

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people I don't know who wouldn't be familiar with this story,
I feel like this is one of the most popular,
you know, murders of all time. I was only a
baby when it happened, I know everything about it. But basically,
Selena had hired this woman, Yolanda, to work for her.
She was her like number one super fan in the world.
She's absolutely obsessed with her. And then at some point

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Selena's family figured out that Yolanda was embezzling money from them,
so Selena begrudgingly fired her. She didn't even want to
fire her. She wanted to think the best of this woman.
So then they go to this hotel and there's this confrontation.
Yolanda claims that Selena was threatening to shoot herself. But
what we think really happened to. What she was convicted
of was that she got, you know, in a craze

(20:28):
and shot Selena because it was one of those like
if I can't have you, nobody can moments right yeah,
and she shot her if she there's documentation that she
went to and purchased got a gun permit, went and
bought the gun after she was fired. After she was fired,
she shot her with a hollow point bullet, which is

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there are ones that you would typically use in home
defense because what happens is when you shoot it, it
opens up like a flower pedal, and it's it's good
for if you're living in a house or an apartment
building because it would get stuck in a wall and
it wouldn't travel through multiple walls or something like that.
Well less likely to anyway. But they're illegal in New

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Jersey those types of bullets because what happens when they
hit a body is the same exact thing. They open
up and they open up like a flower pedal, and
instead of it being just like a skinny little path
of destruction, it opens it up to be much wider,
so it does the most tissue damage. When you shoot
somebody with some of one of those things. So even

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though she shot her with a thirty eight caliber bullet,
it would ended up severing her subclavian artery, which is
one of the major arteries coming off the A order,
which is not as bad as getting shot in the
A order, which was to her advantage because she was
able to walk a little bit and tell people who
shot her. But then she dropped down and basically bled

(21:53):
out right there. The ambulance was there within two minutes.
They weren't able to save her life. They just said
she was in a pool of blood. Yeah, and there's
not that it's ever a good time to kill Someboddy,
but this was like ultimate peak of her career. Everybody
was obsessed with her. She's breaking all these records and
to think that she was killed at such a young
age is so ridiculous. I mean, so they're saying she

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was killed she was twenty three, so she'd only be
fifty three. Think of what she could have done in
her life. I know, oh, she would have been like
j Lo Beyonce. I mean she I already think that
Shelo played her in the middle. I know that's what
that's what's funny. But I think that she's like I
already think that she's already above that in some respects.
But it's just kind of like she died and then

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never really got you know what I mean. But like
people still love her. I mean, her music's great. She
she seemed like she was a really nice person. She
was married, young couple, you know what I mean. Like
it just was it was just like a sad story.
So i'd say, you know, boohoo to you, Yolanda, sorry
that people are going after you in jail. I mean,
you killed a really famous person that people were obsessed with,

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so of course people are gonna be going after you.
I also don't think you get to get get to
get out of prison because you killed a person and
you clearly premeditated it. Yeah you connected. I don't know
what this like. It's I mean, like I'm sure the
family is like satisfied that she's been in jail for
a long time, but like when you leave, these loopholes

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of like oh, you're eligible for parole and X amount
of years like this thirty years crept up fast on me.
So her family too, right, Like it's just they're still
mourning her everything. It's and to think that she could
get out like she doesn't deserve it, and then she's
just gonna walk amongst them and be part of normal
life after Yeah, she's she's like a psychostalker. She definitely

(23:43):
does not need to be out. But where are you
going to go? This is the question we always have
with like Casey Anthony and everything. Right, people know she's
saying her best life. Well that God, you don't up
with her, Didn'ty? I don't find somebody else? You have
to go witness protection in my because how are you
just gonna walk amongst everybody? Most people that are familiar

(24:04):
with this case know your face. So you can't just
like go get a job at Like, that's what I'm
telling you. Like, she'll get beat up outside of jail,
trust me. Yeah, Like really honestly, she's better off there
because at least there's some protection. Okay. Freak accidents, all right,
This one is so sad. The day after Christmas, this
sixty six year old man had taken his fifteen year

(24:25):
old grandson to go ice fishing. As he was drilling
a hole in the ice, he unfortunately fell through. The
grandson fell through as well, but somebody nearby saw it
all go down. He tried to kayak over to help them.
He was able to help the grandson get out, but
they weren't able to pull the grandpop out. They weren't able, however,
to keep his head above water until he was able
to be rescued. So then he goes to the hospital

(24:48):
and he's on life support, totally separate. The next day,
the Grandpap's wife goes to pick up his car from
I guess the area they were fishing, and then this
teenager blue of red light hit the car and killed
her in a car accident. And then a couple of
days after that, the grandfather died, going off of life support.
What a terrible situation for this family, Like they lost

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one of they lost their grandmam on December twenty seventh,
and then lost their grandpap on December thirty. First, Yeah,
she was the freak thing. That's this is really freak accident,
is that? You know? When I first read the story,
I was like, well, if she was driving to go
do something for him after he got in this bad accident,
she was out of her like normal mind, and she

(25:34):
might have been crying or upset and that would cause
the accident. And it's like, no, she was a passenger
in a vehicle that got killed. She was sitting in
the back seat. And who was driving the car I
guess one of the kids or a family member or something. Yeah,
it's just like so terrible for everybody involved, because I'm
sure the grandson feels terrible that, like he was just

(25:55):
trying to go fishing with his grandpap and then this
whole event spiraled because that, you know what I mean,
and then whoever was driving the car and just it's
just like, how's happened to one family. It's just so sad.
I don't know. And from their pictures and everything, they
just looked like this cute older couple, you know, living
a good life, and clearly it seemed like they must

(26:16):
have cared about spending time with their family because they
he was taking the grants to fishing. So it's definitely
really upsetting to think about. All Right, in Brazil, they
have these gigantic plastic bubbles on the beach. I immediately was like,
this cannot be a good idea, and so they basically
zip the kids in these things and then there I

(26:38):
guess there's this rope or a chain holding them down
on the beach. So they don't blow away. But the
rope on this particular bubble that an eight year old
boy was in detached from the ground and then the
boy drifted inside of the bubble into the sea. So
then later on this guy is in a boat just
like you know, driving around, boating around, and then he

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sees his bubble, goes up to it and is like,
oh my god, there's a little boy in this bubble
floating in the middle of the water. So they were like,
you can't unzip the bubble because he could potentially suffocate
or drown or get stuck or something because it's a
big sheet of plastic. So apparently these bubbles were popular

(27:21):
in the United States at some point. I saw that
Florida put out a warning that was just like, if
anybody is offering these as a recreational activity, they are
dangerous and do not go in them because they so
they might be two different things. Because they have this
ball that they advertised that you can walk on water,

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and it looks like the same exact thing. And then
there's this other thing called the zorb ball. Remember we
talked about it like last year that some kid was
in one. It's a hamster ball. Like it looks like
a giant hamster ball and some kid was on it,
and this gust of wind came and picked the kid
up and like lifting them above the trees, and people
thought it was a balloon and stuff, and it ended

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up they were like, oh my god, there is like
a live child inside of that right now. So now
you're talking about this story in Brazil where they got
the memo that they should secure it because they get
lifted up by the wind easily. But instead this thing
like rolls into the water. Like did his family know
that he was in the water, Were they actively trying
to get him or it seems like there was an

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emotional reunion. So I think they knew he blew away,
but I don't know if it happened too fast and
they couldn't figure out what to do. The guy on
the boat was able to somehow use a rope to
bring him in. I don't even understand that you would
get a rope around that thing. But he's safe. Wow, Yeah,
that's it. So the issue that Florida put out was

(28:47):
just like, not only can kids suffocate because there's not
enough oxygen in there, but if there's a hole in there,
then they could drown if water gets in it. It's
just like not a good idea to ever do something
like that. And I wonder if you can unzip them
from the inside too, or if you're only No, that's

(29:08):
what it said. That's what it said. It was like,
you're basically trapped in there, and if you're distressed, you
might have a difficult time like letting people know that
you need to get out because there's no escape door. Wow,
I don't understand who possibly thought this was a good invention. Yeah,
I don't know, but I mean we could buy one
right now. They're on sale and line, like when I
was looking them up today, so of course they are.

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all right. First, in Georgia, these four boys aged twelve
to fifteen. They were having a sleepover and playing video games.
The twelve year old went to sleep and that's when
the kids thought this would be the best time to
do this prank where they poured boiling water on his skin.

(31:06):
In all of these articles, I couldn't find any information
of like what exactly these kids worth thinking in this situation,
Like what what prank? Like what was the prank? I
don't know, and I'm wondering if it was something they
saw on TikTok, because I mean every other week on
here we're talking about these stupid things people are getting

(31:27):
into because they saw it on TikTok, and therefore it
must be safe if it's on the internet. Right, So
I don't know if maybe they saw some you know,
content creator or somebody they followed you something like this,
or maybe they saw somebody pretend like it was boiling water.
But I don't understand how at that age you don't
know that hot water burned your skin and by pouring

(31:50):
it on another person, it's not going to end well,
I'm just it's it's like honestly upsetting to hear this
because it's you know, you know that kids do dumb
shit all the time, but this is just this is
just the dumbest thing that I've ever heard in my life.
Like calling it a prank, I don't understand what the

(32:14):
prank is. I just I don't, like, I understand if
a kid's sleeping, right, We've had sleepovers before when I'm
a little kid, where you like to take a kid's
you know, clothes and put them in the freezer or
something like that, right, Like you want to you want
to do something. We've done it to gay before. We're

(32:34):
put like whip cream on his face while I was
sleeping or something. Right, it's funny, but that's that's funny.
That's not giving something my second degree burns, Like this
boy ended up having I could see, like pouring cold
water on a I mean, like listen, that wouldn't be
cool to do somebody, but like it wouldn't hurt them, right,
like you want to shock them to wake them up,
and maybe that was part of the prank. But but

(32:56):
the boil like boiling water, like I don't even understand,
And that to me makes me think that these kids
liked it because they did get arrested, and it makes
me think like they maybe they need to because they
were trying to intentionally hurt them, Like I don't, I
just don't understand. Like you you're twelve, you know that,
you just know. I'm sorry. If you've ever taken a shower,

(33:16):
you know, hot water, and that's not even boiling water,
Like it's just dumb. Well I think he was the
youngest one too, so they're even older. They went up
to age fifteen. It's totally unacceptable. Oh't know, Yeah, they
should be arrested and in trouble, and like they should
they were. They were released to their families until their
court hearings. But I don't know, like what the I
just I don't even understand. Were they doing drugs or

(33:37):
something like It's something doesn't make sense about that. I
don't know, because I can't fathom in the world, Like
this isn't like a frank, like Okay, you give the
kid this like really hot pepper because you want to
see them freak out because they're coughing too much. Like
that to me is a prank because kids don't really
understand that, like you can like cause an a rhythmia

(33:59):
in some body from something like stupid prank like that
or whatever. Right like this is just like this is
like a common sense. You don't shoot somebody as a prank,
like you're gonna hurt them, you know what I mean?
Like it just something's like weird that children of that
age just thought that that would have been a good idea,
like multiple children, right Yeah. In Brazil, this family gathered

(34:22):
a couple of days before Christmas and they were enjoying
a classic Brazilian Christmas cake. I mean, when I first
started reading the story, I thought that sounded pretty delightful.
But shortly after two of the women eating the cake died,
and if third had died the next day, and two
other family members were hospitalized that also consume the cake. Yeah,
so obviously when anything happens like this, they're going to

(34:44):
do a quick investigation. And when they tested the people,
not only the people that died, but the people who
were sick, and then they also tested the cake, and
then they tested the flower that made the cake, and
all tests pointed to their being these abnormally high levels
of arsenic in the cake. So, and guess who didn't die.

(35:05):
The woman who baked the cake and her husband died
a couple months before, mysteriously from food poisoning. So now
they want to exhume his body and test it to
double check, which I'm sure they'll find that it's consistent
with what happened to the other family members. I hope that. Yeah.
And the thing is is that if you have there's
two different ways you can get poisoned with arsenic. So

(35:25):
arsenic is considered a heavy metal and you could either
get a cute exposure, which means you just get a
large volume of it at one time, and in those
cases it's especially dangerous, but that doesn't really happen that
often because people aren't like intentionally poisoning people as much
these days as they used to. But you also, because

(35:47):
it occurs in it could occur naturally in the environment.
So a lot of times people are getting accidental arsenic
poisoning because they're exposed to small portions of it over
a long period of time. Could lead to cancer and
just like other symptoms, but like when you get the
full load of it at once, like in a piece
of cake that they actually said didn't taste right, get

(36:11):
like it causes not nausea vomiting just you know what
I mean, and then obviously coma death, which is what
happened to most of the people that had it. So
for her husband, if he just had these like acute
symptoms of nausea vomiting, just because that's like GI symptoms too,
like they could have just said, oh, he had some
kind of he had some kind of GI bug and

(36:33):
that's why he died, you know what I mean, And
because the symptoms could kind of mimic each other. But
in this case, I think she's definitely getting caught with this.
I don't know what she was trying, why she's trying
to kill all these people in her family. But well, yeah,
because they were saying, upon the initial investigation, it didn't
seem like there is anything going on in the family,
no disputes over inheritance, like money, anything like that, so

(36:56):
they're kind of confused about it. I wouldn't say a
side note, Do you see a picture they showed of
the cake? No, okay, So they showed this like bunt
this bunt cake, right, and allegedly what five people have
eaten slices of this cake? There was probably about an
eighth of it cut out. And I just want to say,
of five members of our family ate a cake, the

(37:16):
entire thing would be gone. So I don't even think
they would have the rest to sample from. Yeah, right, exactly.
That's funny. Maybe it was at the end of a
really big meal or something. I don't know. I don't
even think in the qualitiary household that would matter in
the slightest. That whole entire thing would be gone. And
maybe in that case you would never be able to
test a comparison sample. Now, because we're all goodn I mean,

(37:38):
but they tested they said they tested the flour that
she used to make it, and it was like in
the flower too, like she just she what, I don't
know what she was using, Like back in the day
it would be like, well, rat poison or whatever like that.
But they said when they went through the home, they
noticed that several of the food products were expired, and

(37:58):
then most notably, there was a medicine bottle that contained
a bizarre white liquid and the medicine was that like
a medicine bottle that had a skull and crossbones on it.
That's what I imagine. But they said it was really unusual
because the medicine bottle was for capsules and there was
a white liquid in there. So, yeah, clearly really interesting.
But if you have so, if you have a cute

(38:19):
exposure to it, it causes a disruption in chemical pathways
in your cells that cause your organs to shut down.
And that's what happened to these people, Like you can
die pretty quick. And they were saying that when they
tested the levels and the people, especially one of the
ones that died, they had three hundred and fifty times
more than the lethal dose of our snack in their system. Yeah,

(38:43):
that's real nice that you you know, your family comes
over for Christmas dinner and then you kill all of
them exactly like, and if you're going to do it like,
you don't need that much like they're saying that it
tasted bad because you could taste it, Like clearly, you
shouldn't even be able to taste it. That was why
it was such a good in of choice, because you
could just drop drop and like nobody would notice it.

(39:04):
You know. Yeah, he at least you're gonna kill somebody,
do it right, exactly all right. In New York, this
chick was waiting for a bus and saw that this
guy from a food truck was feeding pigeons. So then
she noticed he started looking around to see if anybody
was watching to see what he was doing. At that point,
she decided maybe I should video what's going on. And

(39:26):
the guy took a plastic bag and was trying to
catch a pigeon, but was unsuccessful with the first one.
Eventually captured one of the pigeons and then just brought
it back into the food truck. She saw him come
back out later and he was, you know, washing his
mouth out with water. So obviously that doesn't sit right
if you see somebody bring a bird like this into

(39:47):
a place where food is being prepared and served to people?
All right, I can go back and forth with this.
I always try to see both sides of the story, Like, Okay,
it's gross, right, you're seeing someone capture birds live and
put what the fuck is he doing with it? I
don't know bringing it into a food cart that sells

(40:08):
chicken though, that makes me semi suspicious that that's what's
happening there. But if you're gonna eat a chicken, what's
the difference if you eat a chicken or a pigeon?
Like it's you're you're still eating a bird. Like us
Americans have this very like oh that animal. I could
never eat a dog, but I could eat a coyote.

(40:29):
Like it's the same frickin' thing, you know what I mean?
Like these lines that we put up of I could
a coyote? Oh I do. On my road trip, I
just saw some crazy ass beef jerky of every single
different kind of animal, alligators, some people. Yeah, like people eat.
I'm just saying, like people eat all sorts of different meats.

(40:52):
Like what's the difference between a cow and a dog
or a pigan? Like they're they're all the same, right,
Like it's because we put up these barriers of this one. Okay, pigeon,
we have determined gross can't eat that, but chicken, yes,
we can't eat that. I mean, think about it. It's
it's kind of ridiculous. And people eat pigeons in this
country all the time. Like did you ever did you

(41:16):
ever see it for sale on a menu? We it's
called squab. It's like a bit like fancy restaurants. Okay,
so that's okay. You won't get it from a food cart,
but you can get it at a fancy restaurant. I'm
just saying a problem with people eating pigeons. I have
a problem with somebody just like scooping one up. No, well,
that's that's why this whole thing is frowned upon, because

(41:39):
because it's just weird. Like if there was if someone
had a chicken like as a pet walking around and
you just saw them pick up a live animal to
go like kill it to eat it, you would be
disturbed too, Like most people just aren't whatever, But well
I get it. Like he got fired and the boss
said he was just trying to rescue the bird, even

(42:00):
though he was trying to grab multiple birds. That's what
I wanted to say, like the owners making it worse
because he's just like, no, in our country, we love pigeons,
and there was simply one that had a wounded leg,
so he was trying to capture it to put a band.
Grab multiple birds, so like that are yeah, and then

(42:21):
he's just like and in his country it's we you know,
it's different here. He didn't know the walls here or whatever.
And which is another thing that's completely understandable, right I have.
I have a funny story to tell you about this. Actually, God,
I there were these two boys that moved to my
town from Italy when I was a teenager, and they

(42:42):
were both hot, and they drove really good cars, and like,
of course I wanted to date one of them, right
well there they were from Italy, and they used to
tell us all the time that their dad would like
kill pigeons and squirrels in the yard and like cook
them and eat them, which I and I would be like,
oh my god, that is so disturbing and stuff like
when I was a kid, that grossed me out so much,
you know what I mean. But like really, like I

(43:04):
don't know the only thing that grosses me out about
it is like if you want to have squad, for example,
at like a fancy restaurant, it's from like one that
was raised on a farm and doesn't have exposure to
as many well you would think as many like bacteria
and fungus and all that, and you know, viruses and

(43:25):
stuff like that, so they're like cleaner, right. But I mean,
if you listen, when I was just on my trip,
I just drove by a dairy farm and like, I
almost don't ever want to drink milk again because the
smell was so fucking gross. Well, let's not forget the
hay milk situation. I know, yeah, that time we had
milk from the farm that tasted like, hey, no, this

(43:47):
farm smelled so bad. It was like, I don't I
can't even explain. It wasn't quite like a d coomp smell,
a little bit like a decomp smell, but like a
bad milk smell mixed with poop smell. And I was
it's just like, you know, when you think of dairy
you want to have like ice cream and milk and stuff,
and I'm like, this smell is so bad. It smelled

(44:07):
for miles too. It was so so gross. But I'm
just saying like anytime you're dealing with animal products, they're gross. Like,
so a pigeon is a gross animal in the city,
but like, is it any better? Yeah, I mean, I'm
sure it is. I think the problem is the way
in which it was handled, not the pigeon itself. No,

(44:27):
I think it's it's how it's handled too, though, like
people because people here, like would you look at pigeons
as being like a dirty animal right like a city
and they are. They they have like certain fungal infections
that they could give to people that are immunosuppressed and stuff.
They're kind of gross. But like if you went to

(44:47):
this car and got the food, like are you thinking
right now, like have I been eating pigeon? Did I
eat pigeon? Did this guy just run out of chicken?
And like like what's happening there? Yeah? Whatever, But it's
how you want to individually process. It's how I mean listen,
like it the video. The video is shocking really like

(45:11):
you're just like this, there's no other explanation for it.
There just isn't no there is. I mean you I
think the most shocking part of the story is you
don't often just see an adult grab a plastic bag
and catch a bird with their bare hands and then
bring it into a food car. I I love that
the girl was just like, you know what, some don't
look right here. Let me just pull out my phone

(45:31):
and record this. Yeah, well, let's get into this other
food story. This woman ordered a pizza to be delivered
to her motel room. She was there celebrating her boyfriend's
birthday with her five year old daughter. So when that
delivery chick got there, the bill was a thirty three
dollars and ten cents. So the woman tried to pay
with a fifty and she said she had wanted some

(45:52):
change back, and then the delivery girl got really pissed
that she wanted change back and said they couldn't do that.
I want to say a side note. I had of
ridiculous to expect the seventeen dollars tip on that. Oh no,
that's what you have to tip delivery drivers. Now that's
that's over fifty percent tip, But that's expected. Now here's
the former industry worker. I would say that's ridiculous because

(46:14):
the average tip is twenty percent. If you want to
give more than that, great if you don't whatever. So
basically what happened was because the delivery girl was refusing
to give her change back for the fifty, then the
woman was like, all right, well I need to find
smaller bills, and then only ended giving her a two
dollars tip, which is also messed up. I mean, if
I was in the situation where it was one or

(46:35):
the other, i'd give more. What would you do? Well, no,
I don't know if I would want to get I listen.
I don't even understand this this story anyway, because it
sounds like nineteen ninety five right now, Like who the
fuck orders pizza and pays with cash and has a
person come to their Why? Because that's you could do
this one hundred percent non confrontational, Like why would you

(46:57):
even want to talk to the delivery person? Just have
them leave it on your porch and walk away. I
don't know, But basically she ended up with a two
dollars tip, and that pissed her off even more so.
Later in the night, the family was sleeping in the
motel room and suddenly somebody started aggressively knocking on the door.
I don't know if the people broke in or they
answered the door, but it was the delivery driver with

(47:19):
a man and he was armed and they were wearing masks,
and then all of a sudden, the delivery driver started
stabbing the woman. Like I don't even understand this story
at all, Like what, I don't understand what she was
so pissed off about, Like I do. I mean, I
get that you're pissed off that you didn't get a
good tip, but like, really the most confusing part is

(47:40):
the guy that she was with, Like how did she
convince a guy that she was with to go to
this room and hold someone at gunpoint because they didn't
give his girlfriend or whatever a good tip? And he
hasn't been identified yet. It's just like weird. Do you
think that there's more to the story. It just sounds
rand and obviously like people are nuts and could do

(48:02):
stuff all the time. It just like, why would you
go back because you know that that person has that money,
they eventually steal the rest of that money. I mean,
I would say that I think I think it is possible.
We live in this world where people are just not
okay right now mentally, and I think the littlest things
are pushing people over the edge. And this could be

(48:24):
one thing you shouldn't like. In my opinion, she set
herself up for failure because let's say she really didn't
have change. It didn't seem like it went down that
way where she just didn't have it and then they
had to figure something out. It seems like she wanted
the bigger tip and thought the woman would give her
a bigger tip. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like

(48:44):
she walked in there and was like, oh, this bill
is thirty three dollars, and like I could make potentially
almost twenty dollars off this transaction, like in her mind,
like that's what she thought she was getting. And then
I don't know, like it's just you can't. You can't
kill somebody because they give you beds and she and

(49:05):
she stabbed the woman in front of her daughter, Yeah,
a five year old and ny time she was stabbed,
and then she went to the hospital and found out
that she was pregnant, Like, oh, yeah, I totally forgot
that for you. She was. I mean like after getting stabbed,
I don't know, I really sucked, like unless I mean,
if she wanted the kid, then I guess it was

(49:25):
a joyous night. But like, could you just imagine just
find like not knowing you're pregnant, not being happy about it,
and being like cool, Like some bitch tried to stab
me and then I went and found out that I
was having a kid. I just think it's truly a
possibility that this person was just not mentally well and
then this little thing just set them over the edge.
I mean, there also could be more of the story.

(49:46):
What if the woman's boyfriend was her ex boyfriend or
some man she was in love with she was there's more. Listen,
I'm telling you that there's more to the story. There's
I just I think to think that that everybody was
just complete strangers, because like you could see her stabbing
her right away out of rage, but like to leave
and come back is almost like the insanity defense goes

(50:09):
away in that sense. You know, I've been getting as
I've been stiffed so many times in the ten years
I worked in a restaurant, and I never wants You
never want stab someone to death. It's not even about
stabbing somebody. It's like you get pissed and you're like
that person's a dick, and then you move on. Right,
what's the point of sitting and thinking all day and

(50:29):
then trying to find where they live over. I mean,
think about this. She got a two dollar tip, which
everybody could argue is really shitty tip. It's under ten percent,
But the twenty percent on that bill would have been
approximately seven dollars. So it's not like they tipped her
two dollars and she was supposed to be getting a
two hundred dollars tip. It was a difference a five
appropriate tip for like when you get delivery to your house,

(50:52):
Like I always do twenty percent, just because like at
least twenty percent, But what is the what's the appropriate
thing for delivery? Because I feel like there was a
long time that it was just like, oh, you just
give the delivery driver like one or two dollars, And
now it's like I think for delivery drivers too, is

(51:14):
that like an unsaid rule? Now? I just I don't
know anymore, because like I my whole entire trip, I
just tipped like a ship ton of people that I
wouldn't normally think would get a tip, like the person
at the pizza place. This is a conversation coming off
of a tray and putting it on a plate for me,
like why do they get a tip. I don't know,
because that's not all they're doing. You're seeing that they're

(51:36):
taking a piece of pizza off the plate. Are they
doing for me? They're cooking the pizza. They're doing No,
you could use that theory for every single fucking thing
in the world. Like, come on, I think if you
apply this, I think you need to apply this more
to I've heard that at places where people are getting botox,
like medspas, they're asking for tips, and it's like, you

(51:58):
should not be giving tipped somebody giving you a medical procedure. Yeah,
I mean, but I see what they're saying, Like, but
this is the problem because this is your generation too.
By the way, have blown this thing out of total
freaking proportion. But like, if that's this, this this, this
is the theory of like, okay, well, if you're gonna

(52:20):
blow dry someone's hair, you're gonna tip them, right, Well,
then if you're gonna give someone a botox, you should
tip them. Like it's just like, where do you draw
the line? You should tip us right now for talking
to you, Like, just come on, it's so fucking ridiculous.
This is an argument everybody can have about everything. But
but you're saying this about the pizza place, right, but
that that's like a pizza place. But then like, well,

(52:42):
then why don't you tip the people at McDonald's. It's
the same freaking thing. But what's different about a server
at a restaurant taking your order and bringing you a
plate than the person at the pizza counter taking your
order and bringing you the pizza. It's the same. Now
I'm talking about I was at like a food court situation,
and all the pizzas are on display, right on a

(53:03):
piece of glass. They're on display, and I want that one,
and I point to it, and they take it off
the tray and turn around and stick it in the
oven and take it. Guess what happens at a restaurant.
A waitress puts your order in the computer, and then
they go in the kitchen and they grab a plate,
just like that person's grabbing his slice of pizza and
they're giving it to you. Okay, well, then go tip
the person at McDonald's inn. Well they should be No,

(53:28):
you're you're off your freaking rocker, Absolutely no, I'm over this.
Let's move on. Okay. Medical news, all right, So this
guy was sleeping on his couch and suddenly his bulldogs
are chewing on his toe down to the bone. But
apparently this ended up saving his life. Yeah, so his wife,
the guy was sleeping and his wife was like, honey,

(53:50):
wake up, the dog just ate your tip all the
way down to the bone. And when she he didn't
realize it because he had no feeling in his foot.
So when he went to the hospital, obviously the first
choice was to be like, let's clean this thing out
and let's give some antibiotics and make sure that this
infection doesn't get into the bone or anything. But then

(54:11):
they were like, okay, let's find out why you have
no feeling in your leg, and they found out that
two arteries in his leg were actually clogged and he
had peripheral artery disease and that's what was causing it.
So he thinks that if he didn't have the dog
bite on his toe, they never would have been able
to see this, and he probably would have ended up

(54:32):
having to get an amputation at some point because he
was losing so much oxygenated blood flow to his leg.
That is so crazy, because I think in any other circumstance,
if your dog was chewing on your foot, you would
immediately wake up from the pain. But he just woke
up from the nap and was like, I don't even
feel this and his toes totally chewing. Yeah, I mean

(54:53):
that could happen. It's called neuropathy. It could cause numbness
in the affected area, and you could lose a total
loss of since that's why they tell you a lot
of times if you have poor oxygen flow in your legs,
like you shouldn't be going and getting pedicures. Have you
ever heard that with like older people that are diabetic
and stuff, because not only could you not feel if

(55:14):
you got you know, sometimes you know when we go
get our pedicures, like it hurts afterwards and stuff. I
only have heard of this in the sense of my
father in law hasnopathy and he's not allowed to use
like heating pads or anything because he wouldn't be able
to tell if it was burning him basically, So it's
it's kind of the same thing. So so they said
that they're probably going to be able to put stents

(55:35):
in his legs. So when you have clogs, if you
have like blockages in the artery, they could put a
stent in, which is like it could hold open the
arteries so that the blood flow can get better. So
I mean, I don't know if he's out of the
woods yet, because if he has such bad oxygen flow,
that toe might have difficulty healing, especially from a dirty

(55:56):
animal bite. But if he gets out of the wood
with that and they could save his toe, then that
would be good. But I don't know when they're saying
when he said that it saved his life. I guess
he had blocked arteries in his legs as well as
his heart. I'm assuming because like, if you have blocked

(56:16):
arteries in your legs, that wouldn't necessarily be life threatening, right,
like as it would be if it was your coronary arteries.
But in theory, if you have peripheral artery disease in
your legs, you like a lot of your arteries and
your body will also be affected and could also be clogged.
So that's that's probably what they're talking about there, all right.

(56:40):
This next case is wild. So in Germany, this thirty
two year old was diagnosed with a rare cancer and
had surgery to have his tumor removed, and then during
the procedure, the surgeon accidentally cut his hand. He said
he took care of it immediately, didn't think anything of it,
and then months later the surgeon noticed a small lump
developing where he had injured himself, and it turned out

(57:00):
to be a malignant tumor. So what's weird about this
story is that it happened a long time ago, back
in nineteen ninety six, but it's been in like a
lot of articles this week for some reason. So I
don't know if why it's becoming popular, but it is.
It's I just thought it would be something cool to
talk about because it is possible to catch cancer from

(57:24):
other people in rare situations such as this, because normally,
if you put tissue from another person inside of your body,
your body will reject it. Like it's the same theory
with an organ transplant, right, Like you get someone's kidney
put in you, and the first thing is that your
body just wants to get rid of it, and your
immune system attacks it and recognizes it as farign. And

(57:47):
the same exact thing should have happened to this doctor
when he had these tumor cells that cut through his finger.
His body should have attacked it and recognized it as feign,
but for whatever reason, it didn't and the reason that
they know that he got the cancer from his patient
is because they tested the DNA from the tumor from
the patient and from him, and they were able to

(58:08):
determine that they were genetically both the same as act tumor.
So it's it's like a really rare interesting case. But
stuff like this could kind of happen within people too,
which is remember we were talking about a couple of
years ago that procedure that they would remove fibroids from
women with that tool that was called a morselator, and

(58:29):
they would they were taking out certain ones that were
malignant without knowing it, and they were basically seeding it
through their body as they were pulling it out the body.
And that could happen sometimes with biopsies, like if you
do a let's say you do a lung biopsy and
there's cancer, Like when you go in with the needle
and touch that tumor, you can like pull it out

(58:50):
and like basically like pull it through their body as
you're pulling the needle out. So they need to use
they use this special needle that is is like a
it's a hollowed out needle with a needle that goes
inside it, so there's like a metal surrounding so it's
not pulling through the person's actual tissue, you know, And

(59:11):
it could be like there's been cases of patients getting
or doctors getting HPV from patients when they use the
cautery tool from the smoke. It's like it's like really crazy,
Like yeah, so it's you can like in theory catch
cancer from people, but it's just not common at all,

(59:33):
just because your body normally is like fighting against that.
So I know, you guys in the lab or when
you're doing autopsies on certain diseases will take extra precautions.
Is this something you would take this case and be
more mindful of that just in case where it's just
so rare that you wouldn't take the extra steps in

(59:54):
case you were like cutting, in case you cut yourself
by accident like this guy did. I mean, there's nothing,
there's not thing that you can really do more than
the normal because if you like cut yourself dooring like
an HIV autopsy or something, you have to immediately go
get well. If you go if you get caught dooring

(01:00:15):
an autopsy or dissecting surgicals, you should go documented at
the emergency room just because in case anything happens, but
they can give you medications for HIV, but for heps
for example, if you get cut on it, they just

(01:00:36):
they're just kind of like, Okay, wait and see what happens.
And I guess like if you end up getting a hepsy,
then you would be able to get some kind of
I don't know if it's compensation or coverage or whatever,
because you got hurt at work. That's why you should
document it because technically you caught it at work. But
I mean there's there's nothing that you could do aside

(01:00:57):
from the normal protocol of like getting if you need
it and cleaning out the wound and everything like that.
So and I mean like PA's get caught all the time,
so there would be documented, more documented cases of it happening,
but normally your immune system will take care of that
for you. Yeah, it's just really interesting because I've never
I feel like, I've never heard of anything like this before.

(01:01:19):
So as like a lay person, it's interesting to see
that somebody caught cancer. I don't think it's that. I
think it's interesting. I'm very interested in it. But I
also know just because of what I know from tumor
seating as far as like pulling it that you could
pull it through your body. Actually, I think that's what
happened to Nanny when she died, believe it or not.

(01:01:43):
When she had so my grandmam had gallbladder cancer and
they went to do to remove her gallbladder. But before
they even did the surgery, they knew that it was
suspicious and at that time they shouldn't have done the
surgery the way that they did it. So they did
it laparoscopically and that was making a very small incision

(01:02:07):
and like pulling it out. And when they did that,
they pulled the tumor all out like through that incision,
you know what I mean. M hmm. So when that
just that particular way of doing it was like what
was caused her disease to advance more quickly because it

(01:02:27):
seated it through Like ultimately she would have she would
have had it, she would have had died from it anyway,
But because the way that they did that, it was
like all in the previous incision sites. So that was
you know, it's just something like surgeons are aware of,
and it could happen with biopsies and stuff like that too, interesting.

(01:02:51):
All right. So obviously during this time of year, there's
a lot of celebrating between all the holidays and New
Years and everything, so there's an increase in drinking physic
drinks and in particular champagne, prosecco, everything like that. So
because of this increaseed dentists see this seasonal phenomenon called
prosecco teeth. Yeah, it's they said, it's a combination of

(01:03:12):
sugar and the acidic drink, and the carbonation can eat
away at the enamel, and then the sugar, you know,
causes bacteria in the mouth to overgrow and which could
further break down the enamel on the teeth. And they
see it particularly on the incisors. It's just really interesting, right, Yeah.

(01:03:34):
I mean because I feel like, I don't know, I
was at first reading this, like I hope it's not
all carbonated drinks because I pretty much exclusively drink seltzer,
But it seems like it's this perfect combination of the carbonation, acid, sugars,
everything like that. I think there's I because we always
ask that because like Gabe exclusively drinks fizzy drinks, and

(01:03:57):
I think that we've talked about that to the and
there's some people that are just like it's equivalent to water,
it's the same thing. And other people think that it
can damage the enamel on the teeth a little bit.
I think I don't know if that's like written in
stone or studies done about that or whatever, but I
think the biggest thing is that they're the acid level

(01:04:18):
and also the sugar is a combination. I mean, it's
just which is why it's terrible to drink soda and
mountain dew all that stuff like rots holes in your teeth. Well,
they have some tips for preventing prosecco teeth, so those
are enjoy prosecco in moderation or switched to a drink

(01:04:39):
that's less acidic and sugary. Also, they say use a
straw to reduce contact with your teeth. I thought that
was an interesting tip. Drink water to rinse away the
harmful acids in sugar. Chose sugar free gum to stimulate
salive reproduction. Eat cheese. We will take any excuse to
eat cheese. And then it says wait thirty minutes to

(01:04:59):
an hour after drinks prosecco before toothbrushing to give enamel
time to remineralize. I don't like prosecco. I think it's
pretty delicious, but I don't really I'm not a big drinker,
so I'm not a big drinker either, And this is how,
you know, like I'm not When people say that it's sweet,
I'm like, that's not sweet to me. I don't know.

(01:05:19):
I guess compared to like another drink, people think it's sweet,
but like I just still get like, I don't get it.
You like moscato, which is disgusting. So I don't really
like mescato either. I don't like but yeah, because it
tastes like app or like a grape juice or something like.
I just don't. I'm not into it. We need to
give you a finer palate over there. I don't. I

(01:05:42):
don't need to drink anything, so I don't care. It's fine.
If you're making me do it, then give me some
juice with barely any alcohol in it. Okay, Okay, other
death news, all right, So if we're gonna start with
some plain drama, and with some plain drama. So on
Christmas Day, this United flight, Oh my god, I didn't

(01:06:03):
even realize this is another United story too. So on
Christmas day, a United flight from Chicago landed and Maui
and that's when they discovered there was a dead body
in the wheelwll. So this is this is the other
case that I was referring to that is in the
gross room this week, that was from it was from
a while to go back in December twenty twenty three

(01:06:23):
about a stow away and the post was called It's
raining people. And you'll know why in a minute, because
there was a person that again same situation, went into
a commercial airliner into the wheel well and the same
thing happened. So what there's different things that could happen
as far as cause of death in stowaways. Number one,

(01:06:46):
the temperature is super super low. They were saying it
could be as low as negative fifty eight to negative
seventy six degrees fahrenheit, so hypothermia. Let's mention also that
most of these people die, although there's been a few
documented cases. Then you have the situation with the lack

(01:07:09):
of oxygen up there, so people can die from a
six year old deaths as well. And then in the
case that I'm talking about in the grosser room called
It's raining people, this person fell once the landing gear
went down, so they were still very high up in
the air, but you know, the landing gear goes down
when you're getting ready to land. The person fell out

(01:07:31):
and like onto the sidewalk, onto somebody's driveway, and like
splattered everywhere. Oh my god. Yeah, how would you even
figure out where? Like, let's say you were at your
house and this happened in your driveway and you went outside,
how would you even figure out where that person came from?
That's why I called it it's raining people, Like, it's

(01:07:53):
so crazy. It's just somebody's driveway in like a normal
suburban looking neighborhood, and there's just like a dead body
just like who knows where. I mean, it fell from
the sky literally like and it had rains and everything
all over the place. This happened in this story, the
real life story that inspired that stupid movie Cocaine Bear.

(01:08:13):
So like, this guy was flying drugs on this small
plane and he jumped out of it and his parachute failed,
and then he splattered in somebody's driveway. Oh my god.
And then when they figured out what happened, you know,
all this cocaine was dropped in the woods, and then
this bear had ripped it open and then they ended

(01:08:35):
up making hard alarmed. Like what, I just don't know
what makes people do this. If it's a known thing
that you you usually don't survive doing it unless it's
just an act of desperation. I just want to know
how people even have access because think about this, like
if a guy could get into the wheelwell and be
in the landing gear and caught debt found out or whatever, well,

(01:08:58):
then like who's to say that that person doesn't have
like a bomb on them, Like why do they even
have access to the wheelwlla? These people that were on
that plane know that this happened, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't like that. I don't like it either. They're
saying the wheelwell is accessible from the outside of the aircraft,
and at this time they don't know how the person
accessed it. So was it like that? Alarming me exactly?

(01:09:23):
And it's was it an airport employee or did somebody
sneak in there that had no affiliation with the airport?
I don't know. It's very concerning. Though I've heard this
story a couple of times over the past couple of years.
It's like, this isn't I mean, it's it's not common,
but it's not the first time that this has happened. No,
it's definitely not the first time it's happened. And you
were saying earlier that a couple people have survived it, right, Yeah,

(01:09:45):
it's just it's scary just thinking, you know, like being
on an airplane and thinking like yesterday I was on
an airplane, just thinking like, oh, that's cool, like someone
just has access down there. I'm I'm honestly over flying.
I think from between you know, these couple of plane
stories which you can't help the passengers on your plane,

(01:10:06):
but there was also the two plane crashes in the
last two weeks too in Russia and South Korea. I mean,
it just really does not make me feel I hate
watching those videos they are you're because it's it's just like,
you know, we're talking about this with the life preserver
vest and it's just like if something happened, like you
just have to pray that nothing happens, because if something happens,

(01:10:28):
like you're pretty much fucked and and if you're not,
you're gonna just have like a horrible PTSD situation for
the rest of your life. If you actually survive it
like the the Frickin' Alaska Airlining airliner when the door
flew off, like I can't, or the lady that got
sucked out the Southwest Airline one, which we have a
high profile death dis section on as well. Well. Yeah,

(01:10:51):
and even little things like Ricky was on a plane
once and somebody had a vape in their checked bag
which was underneath and then I guess the butt the
butt impressed in because something pushed up against it and
it caught on fire, and then they had to turn
around and make an emergency landing. So this person ahead
of us in line at the airport yesterday had a

(01:11:12):
like one of those e scooters, and me and Gabe
were like, they're not going to let this person on
with that battery. Right. They're the ones that cause all
those fires in New York all the time, right where
just like they are. They're not putting that on the plane,
are they? We were just like, no, they can't, but
I guess they did. The guy was in line to
check it. Yeah, they one hundred percent let those things oup.
Oh my god, how scary. All right, let's move on

(01:11:33):
to Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at
Mother Knows Death Instagram account. You guys could head over
to our story and ask whatevery question you want. First,
have you ever had to do an autopsy on an
unsolved case, and if so, tell us about it. I
would say, like, almost every autopsy is an unsolved case, right,
That's like the reason that we're doing it. I mean,

(01:11:57):
sometimes they know or have an idea about what happened,
but ultimately they want us to do the autopsy to
really prove what happened and to solve it. So I
would say, well, I would assume they're asking about like
famous cold cases or something like you had talked about before.
How when you were at the Emmy you had come

(01:12:18):
across the boy in the box they had like some
some stuff there particularly, Yeah, but that wasn't anything I
was involved in. It was just stuff that was in
the closet, which I just thought was super cool, just
from like old cases that weren't unsolved. So no, I mean, no,
I've never done anything like that. All right, Next, do
body blood and mentual blood look different under the microscope? Yes,

(01:12:43):
they did, mean when you look at normal blood under
the microscope, you would with mentro blood you would see
the same as normal blood, except you would see endometrial
cells goes ultimately, like when you're having your period, you're
shedding your endometral lining. So when you see the blood
with those like chunks of stuff in it, that's just

(01:13:05):
your end of mutual lining coming off. And you will
see it underneath the microscope see some all the other
like inflammatory cells and things like that too. But yeah,
it definitely looks different, all right. Last, do you think
you'll ever come to Europe for a talk or a
live show? Well, now that I've been told we're never
going on airplanes again, No, I'd love to take a

(01:13:26):
boat Titanic style, I forget. I want to go to Europe.
I told you guys, I've never been there. I've never
been anywhere, so I want to go. And so it's
just a matter of going, Like I don't, I don't
know what to say. Convincing Gabe to go really is
the problem. If one of you knows anybody that could

(01:13:46):
host us, set us up, put us up in a
cute little hotel room, give us a good opportunity to
come to Europe, we would love to come, that's for sure.
Pretty much anywhere. I don't think we're biased I think
we really want to go to you know, England, Italy, France,
all the majors, but we'll go and go to the
miners too. I don't care, I'll go. I want to

(01:14:07):
go everywhere, but just just hasn't had the opportunity. And
like Gabe, honestly, like our trips are played based because
Gabe likes to drive and do road trips. We drove
four thousand miles this time, and like, if he could
drive to Europe, we'd be going all the time. But
like he doesn't really love going on planes. He will though,

(01:14:29):
if I like really make them. So if you guys
are like Nicole, you could come here, then I'll be like,
we're going here. But I think, uh, we have a
lot of listeners in the UK, so I think that'll
probably be our best bet for doing something where a
decent amount of people come. And I would really like

(01:14:50):
to go there. I've never been. I'd like to check out,
you know, all the cool stuff like Buckingham Palace. I'm
sure some of you don't think that's cool, but like
anybody that goes there is probably like this, this is terrible. Also,
there's this chick that tattoos Gilmore girl tattoos there. She
specializes in them and I love them all, so I'd
love to get a tattoo by her. Okay, we'll have

(01:15:12):
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thank you guys so much. We'll be back later in
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(01:15:33):
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