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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Welcome to Mother Knows Death.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the
huge Lady Gaga concert that happened over the weekend, and
the foiled terrorism plot, people paying people to hold their
place in line for the Diddy trial, Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper
is back in the news, crazy COVID people, a mom
doing the unthinkable to her child, and a new study
(00:44):
suggesting that marijuana use during pregnancy is very harmful.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
To a fetus. Like, uh, all this and more on
today's episode, Let's get started with the Lady Gaga concert. So,
Lady Gaga had this enormous free concert in Rio de
Janeiro that was like, I saw those pictures on social media.
It was outrageous. I can't believe how many people were there.
It was a record breaking event with two point five
(01:08):
million people. Apparently Madonna had done it before and only
had about one point five million people. She like, that's
just like so impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
When I saw the video, it just doesn't even look
real and it just kept going and going and the
people and the people.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was like, this is so cool. It's a really
huge accomplishment for her. I mean, that is so many people.
I think about all these giant festivals that sometimes re
took one hundred thousand people, and I can't imagine two
over two million people. It is so insane. I can't
even believe they have the infrastructure to hold something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know, it's just like it's so grand and but
really good for her, you know, but of course we
can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So after the show, it came out that several people
had been planning in a tack on the concert, specifically
targeting the LGBTQ plus community. This is like so fucked up.
The more I was researching into this, it's just so
horrible what happened. These people were posing as Lady Gaga fans.
They're trying to recruit teenagers online to carry out these
attacks with explosives and molotov cocktails. They were calling it
(02:11):
Operation Fake Monster because her fan base is called little Monsters.
And on top of that, so they found these two
people that were trying to recruit these teenagers and their
goal was to quote gay notoriety on social media. And
then a third person was found planning a separate attack
where he was planning on doing a Satanic ritual killing
a child or a baby door in the concert. What
(02:34):
the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know. It's
side note. What what are our fans called little monster?
Hers are called little monsters? Well, we guys have anu
for our fan base. Yeah, you guys have to think
of something. So if you guys, when I come up
with something, because when it was just you, we were
jokingly calling people fan jemmies but which worked. But now
(02:56):
that you're there too, and it's like a new platform,
which should be something different, and we don't want to
call you like death heeads or something, because I feel
like grateful dead fans might already be called that, and
it's kind of similar to methods. No, no, you guys
could come up. You guys do have to be like
on meth to listen to this this show and like
(03:19):
enjoy it. But okay, every time somebody's like what your
podcasts about, I'm like, I don't even want to talk
about Yeah, all right, so we're going we get distracted
as usual. Okay, so so these people we're gonna use
IDs like, so I'm all tough cocktail.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So you're thinking like an ID is terrible. It's the
stuff that they use in war all the time. When
you see these soldiers getting their limbs blown off, especially
something like that was used for the Boston marathon bombing,
and you know how devastating that was. So things like that,
these these homemade explosive devices and like what in a
(03:55):
pressure cooker or something like that that just carries shrapnel
and can and just cause not even kill people, to
just cause complete destruction to limbs and life threatening injuries,
which is crazy. But but then you got this and
they're teenagers, so I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
They're like actually children.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And then on top of that, the other person was
going to sacrifice a baby or a child because they
said that Lady Gaga was a Satanist and he wanted
to respond in the same way by killing a child,
Like what like this was actually going to happen if
how did? Do you know how they figured it out?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I believe they got tipped off, And they're pretty discreet
about their handling of this situation because they didn't want
to cause mass panic, which I will say was the
right move because one of her fans that had gone
to it said she was happy to find out not happy,
but she was she felt better knowing about it after
instead of leading up to it because she might not
have been comfortable going. And I agree with that. I mean,
(04:56):
I wouldn't go, I dare if I knew there was
a threat.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
If the police are there are one hundred percent confident
that they have the people that are responsible for it
was because I know that they were in a group
that radicalize young people online of course on promoting hate crimes, uh,
self harm, pedophilia. One of the teenagers actually had child
porn on their phone. Like this person, this child is
(05:22):
a terrible human being. Child porn on your phone, and
you're planning on killing a bunch of people, Like you're
you're like who raised this person?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Really? Who raised this kid? Okay, side, it's generally about
a bunch of people that are lost. So yeah, when
it thinks that they've something, he's a little lost. He's
a gross human being.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So regardless that they get they're on these forums and
I say this all the time, like, like a good
example is the Grosser Room. Like we're we're an online
forum and we have we have lots of people there
that are all into the same thing, and we talk
about it, and it's like a a nice space for
people to go to and like talk to people with
(06:04):
like interest. The problem is is that there's similar things
that are people are committing crimes and talking about really
dark stuff like child porn and killing people and just
terrible things. And so I guess that that's probably how
they got caught. And if the police thought that they
had all of the people that were the threat under control,
(06:25):
maybe that's why they didn't tell Lady Gaga and they
didn't tell they didn't tell any of her people because
did a similar thing happen to with Tyler Swift that
she had to cancel her She ended up canceling the show.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, she had to cancel a show because of a
bomb threat and a bomb I believe actually went off
at an area Ona Grande concert, So there is fear
of it and she I mean to me as a
perform if I was a performer and I found out
about this beforehand, I would have wanted to cancel the
event because.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, and that's see this is the messed up though,
because she would have canceled the event right, and not
for her safety, but like you have people that are
coming to see you like, imagine how guilty you would
feel and horrible that people were getting hurt when they
were there to see you, Like, it's just a safety
measure all around. If she canceled that, that would have
(07:21):
been really bad for the city she was in, the
tourism everybody that was there. I mean, people freaked out
about Taylor Swift's concert, and I think that that was
like how many people or forty thousand people or something
like that for that concert. It was a stadium concert
that will flipping out, Like imagine two million people. I mean,
(07:41):
if she was having this free concert there, I'm assuming
that a lot of people were traveling from out of
town to be there to see this concert.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And so I don't know how things went down there.
But because of the amount of people, do you think
everybody was going through a security system to get access
to that area? I would say no, And like, you
can't have that many people. If you see all the
people that were so close quarters, you can't say something
like that or there would have been a mass cast.
But I'm not sure if they handled it right.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, I guess they did handle it right because
luckily it all worked out, But I just I can't
imagine that they didn't have a little bit of anxiety
as well, because even though you have okay, you have
three people in custody, there's another three people that are
just as evil that aren't even on your radar yet,
you know what I mean. So that's and it's unfortunate
because now we're getting to the spot in life where
(08:34):
where events aren't happening anymore because of shit like this,
and it's it's sad, like there's local events around here
that are getting shut down because people are just like
acting out of control, like a bunch of kids showing
up and like start in trouble and like they're just like,
you know what, we're not going to have these days
to celebrate our town anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And you're like, oh, okay, that's just like where we're at. Well,
you have to find a middle ground mentally where we
live in a society where these things happen and it's
really shitty and you know, there's always some fear going
on when you leave your house. But I mean, and
we're gonna talk about that late in a story coming
up later too, but you have to live in a
(09:14):
in this like state of mind where you understand something
like that could happen. But you can't like just be
sequestered to your house the rest of your life. So
you just need to be very vigilant when you're out
and be prepared. And obviously sometimes you can't get out
of certain situations. But I think people just need to
be aware. We live in a society where everybody's staring
at their phone all of the time. Everybody's just so
(09:35):
checked out. We need to be aware of our surroundings,
and I think that's a big problem we have a
lot of these times people are so checked out. I
just said that to Gabe this weekend. I was like,
all cops. Cops don't even need to pull people over
for speeding anymore. They could literally park on the side
of the road and just watch every single person looking
in their lap at their phone and pull people over
all day long for it. It's like the easiest job, seriously,
(09:59):
Like it's it's so out of control driving. We'll be
driving on the highway going sixty miles an hour and
you know, Gabe's like a total talk about road rage.
He's gonna be the next one that poops on some
but like he goes around someone that's like driving like
a total tool, you know, And I look over and
I'm like, oh, surprise, they're looking down at their lap
(10:19):
on the freaking highway, Like yeah, I mean, people are
just totally engrossed in their phone and not paying attention,
which is which is good for the terrorists because they
just don't have nobody's watching for them, you know what
I mean. But I think anybody's big everyone listening to
the show could say one of their biggest fears is
just like going and doing something recreational that didn't need
(10:40):
to be done, like going to a concert and then
like one of their kids or them dying there. Like
it's it's such a fear that that that's why people
decide to not go to things like that, I mean,
because if that does happen, Like, how do you even
live the rest of your life after something like that?
You know, Yeah, but you have to live your life
at the same time. I know it happens at the
(11:01):
grocery store, it happens at big events like this. You
don't know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And guess what, It'll happen anywhere because there's just so
much potential.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, things happen all the time, and you're like
like like nine to eleven being one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, oh, airplanes going into buildings or like, that was
never on anybody's radar, right at least at least mine
or anybody I know. And then all of a sudden,
you're like, Okay, so that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's like, oh, cars driving in the crowds is a thing.
Like there's all these new things that happen, and there'll
be new things that happen every year, so you can't
ever really be prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, I think the important thing is, like, obviously there's
just some situations you can't get out of, but you
need to make sure when you're out in public that
you're aware of your situations and not staring at your phone.
I mean, I'm guilty of that too. So now that
I'm preaching this, I'm gonna try to practice it as
best as I can. Game's actually really good at that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Like every single time we're in a situation that we're
around a lot of people, he'll be like, listen.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He does it at the Phillies game stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He's like, if there's an emergency, that's where we're going.
He says it every single time, or somewhere like it's crazy.
And when we're on the boardwalk, when we're here or there,
like he's always just like, this is the plan in
case anything happens, and it's it's like sucks that you
have to think that way. But and like, I just
pray to guy that I'm never in a situation where
(12:22):
I have to like see if that plan actually works.
But yeah, it's it's messed up. All right, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ditty Okay, So right now they're doing jury selection for
ditty trials. So it's not going to officially start until
they pick the jury members because I can't really say jurers, like,
but when they pick the jerry, it'll start. Which I
was a little surprised at how quick gets starting, but
I had brought this point up to my husband and
he was saying that maybe they want to try to
(12:49):
not risk other new information coming up, which is why
it's so quick. But anyway, it's happening, and there's such
high demand to get in the courthouse right now that
people are paying people to wait in line for them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So what is their only X amount of seats in
order to I mean, like this is the thing. A
jury is not even picked yet, right, so it's not
even starting yet, So what are they waiting in line?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They're waiting in line until it gets picked. Well, I
don't understand there. So every day you could go into
the courthouse, but there's no cameras allowed, So I'm assuming
most of this is going to be journalists that want
to get in and hear the information themselves instead of
hearing a reporter, because the only information we're going to
get is from reporters that were inside the courthouse. There's
no cameras, but regular people are allowed in there too. Yeah,
(13:37):
I think anybody's allowed in there. Okay, it's gonna be
a mixture of nosy people and reporters. Okay, so this
is this is like they're gonna go sit in while
they're picking the people for the jury. Yeah, okay, there's
some juicy questions coming up in the jury selection questionnaire,
which we'll touch on in a second. But the demand
is so high already, I can't imagine how crazy it's
(13:59):
going to be when they start having people testify and
when it's really underway. So there's a line wrapped around
the block to just go in and hear this, and
people are paying people up to thirty two dollars an
hour to sit in their spot, but they said the
going rates twenty five dollars an hour. I can't believe
this exists. It's insane to me. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, Listen, Like I was thinking about like some of
our friends that are reporters, and it's like, if you
want to get this scoop, like I certainly would. I
would consider that really because if there's only X amount
of spots, like you want to make sure you get
the spot, and you might not be able to stay,
like you have to have people on shifts sitting out there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I think I was thinking about that too. Maybe
we should ask Lauren about it because somebody like her
would want to go in there, yeah, at the scoop herself,
but she's a busy person, so it might be worth
the money to pay somebody so you could just slip
in right at the perfect time and then you could
go about your day. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
See, I could understand that it makes more sense for
person that's doing it for their job, but like just
a regular Like I'm sitting there thinking that this is
just like regular people that want to watch and I'm
like ghetto life, Like, why do you have so much
free time to just sit around and wait to go
watch this.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know. But talk about the questionnaire because some of
the names are really rando. Yeah, So all the duror
I can't say this word. All the jury members are
given a questionnaire and some of the questions are just
like have they ever been victims of some type of
sexual assault or abuse or something? But one of the
(15:35):
really weird things is they were given a list of
at least one hundred and ninety people, including the names
of celebrities and public figures, and ask to indicate which
names they recognize. And some of those names that have
come out are Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, Kid Cuddy,
Mike Myers, and Moore. And it's unclear how they're tied
to the case, but those names are up.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Meyers like from Saturday Night Live, I think, so what
that's so random?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Who Who's Michael B. Jordan? So, Michael B. Jordan's that
he worked on the movie I worked on too? He
is from my experience with him, he was a very
nice person. But he is an actor. He was in
Decreed movies and a bunch of other stuff. Is he
related to the other Michael Jordan. I don't think so.
But in SAG you can't have the same name as
(16:22):
somebody else. So if Michael Jordan was already registered in
the Screen Actors Guild, you have to have some differentiating
like initial or something. So I think ms in space jam,
so he might be enlisted in that. Oh yeah, because
I think even in a bunch of commercials, who's Kid Coody? Well,
Kid Cuddy is a musician. Kanye West we know is
(16:46):
a musician. We talked about him on yesterday's episode. I
don't understand why Mike Myers is wrapped into this, but
it's not necessarily saying these people are guilty, Like he
might have just been at a party, but I don't
know because they haven't revealed how these people are connected
to the case. Hit. Yeah, I mean Kanye West is
like whatever, like, but you don't want to see your
(17:08):
name in a headline associated with this trafficking case.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Obviously, the same with It's the same with Epstein. It's
just like all these people that ever like sat next
to them at a party, like, are getting involved and
that sucks for them because there might genuinely be like
no connection. And I just thought it just was such
a random list of names. So all right, well, we're
gonna stap the date on this case and see, like
(17:33):
what happens, because I'm sure it's gonna be juicy.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, But at the same time, I kind of think
the paying somebody to wait in line for you is genius.
So if it's your job, if it's your job, if
you're just like a nosy, lazy person, then I don't
think it works. All right. So Wanda Barzi, who was
convicted in the early two thousands for kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart,
(17:57):
has been arrested after she allegedly visited two parks which
she's not allowed to go to because she's a registered
sex offender. Why is this woman out of jail? Out
of jail? Like I don't understand, Like, so, so what
did when? Did this happen? Back in two thousand and two? Okay,
so the kidnapping happened in two thousand and two. So
they held her, her and Wanda's her and her husband
(18:20):
held Elizabeth Smart captive for nine months. They can out
of her home, Yes he was. He was working on
the home right, like a contractor or gardener or something.
I don't really remember the details of that part of
the case. This is actually something that we should look into,
because I totally forgot about this, But as soon as
this came up today, I was thinking, like, I can't
(18:43):
even believe that the person that was involved with this
even ever saw the light of day. Again, well, that
was my fresh complaint too. So the kidnapping happened between
two thousand, So they kidnapped her in two thousand and two.
She was found in two thousand and three alive, thank goodness.
And in twenty and ten and Wanda was sitting stiff
fifteen years in federal prison but was released eight years later,
(19:04):
so she only served half of her sentence. She's a
registered sex offender because of this, and she's been wandering
around parks like I'm sorry she.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Would encourage her husband to continuously rape Elizabeth Smart, who
they both kidnapped out of her bedroom as a teenager.
And this woman is like out and about yes, she
she should like have the death penalty along with her husband.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This is so I don't know, Like I know that
there's lots of interviews with this Elizabeth Smart woman and
now she's like an advocate for child victims and stuff
like that, But what like This had to be so
devastating on.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Not only her life but her parents' life. Could you
imagine something like that happening and not knowing what happened
to your child for nine months? Nine months? Like, and
imagine knowing what happened to your child within that nine months.
Like these people are disgusting humans that should not be
able to see the light of day.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I one hundred percent agree. Like people want to
argue that prison can rehab some people. You can't rehab
kidnapping tendencies. I'm sorry. Like, if you're gonna hold a
fourteen year old captive for nine months and have your
husband's sexual assault her over and over and over again
for your sick satisfaction, fuck you. You deserve to die. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Really, it's it's really like I don't feel bad for
people like this at all, Like I don't care if
she wants to be rehabilitated, like and Elizabeth. He has
to live her life knowing this woman is out there
and now, oh, like shocker, she's been arrested for going
into two parks where other children are.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Why is this person walking the streets? She's clearly a
harmed in society. Then her husband Brian David Mitchell is
serving a life sentence for the kidnapping, also deserves death.
What's to say he's not gonna get out for no reason? Yeah,
I mean that's that's the thing with the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I guess that always that there's always a fear because
at least that the death penalty is like a very
certain thing that happens to I don't know, there's we
we actually did a whole entire external exam with Matt Mangino,
who wrote a book called The Executioner's Toll, and it's
it's very good, and it's a very good conversation I
(21:15):
had with him about the death penalty and just all
of these like pros and cons of it and things
like that. But overall, like when I think about this,
I just think, for example, like Lacy Peterson and all
that stuff, and and like how her mom's been going
through this hell and he initially got the death penalty
and now he does it, and now they're talking about
like retrying him and getting him out of it completely,
(21:38):
and and like if he's innocent, then I guess that's
why it's good that the death penalty didn't happen for him.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But like if they're able to really prove it. But
like just the whole situation of it is so.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So pointing towards the fact that that he did it.
So now she might have to live with the fact that,
like there's even a possibility that this guy might get out.
I mean, her life has has been really buy this
and so it's like things like that, and prison isn't absolute,
Like there's always a way to get out of it,
and there's always somebody willing to stand up for somebody
(22:11):
to get out of it. And how did she even
get half of her sentence because she was good in jail?
Like that's such bullshit. This episode is brought to you
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(23:04):
on each one of the bodies. And in this case,
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sign up. So a couple in Spain was arrested after
it was discovered they kept their three kids captive in
their home since twenty twenty one due to COVID concerns.
This is this is mind blowing, right, Yes, I get Yeah.
So a neighbor called the cops and was just like,
(24:21):
I don't think I've seen these kids going to school
in years, Like what's going on? Which is interesting because
we had just been talking about this recently. I guess
with the kids going to school, but like, does this
person know for sure they're not homeschooled? And the police
were saying at first that there was no immediate red flags,
of course until they went inside of the house. Well,
(24:41):
I think this is this is an important case to
talk about because I especially like I live on a
street that our houses are very close together, there's multiple
children living on the street, and I kind of like
see people coming and going all the time. So whenever
you see like you get to know I know, people's habits,
and whenever you see your neighbors like something's like not off,
(25:04):
it's something should click inside you like, hey, maybe I
should call the police.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And it doesn't even have to be like you haven't
seen the kids. It could be like an older person
you haven't seen left their house or whatever. For a while,
but this like, it's good that this person had some
kind of an instinct to be like something's up here.
I don't know if they didn't see them getting on
the school bus, or maybe they have kids that go
to the school that are like, we haven't seen these kids.
But like, the thing is is that even if the
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kids weren't going to school, like, this person wasn't seeing
the kids play outside or anything like, something was unusual,
which is why they called police. Yeah, and on top
of that, they realized they hadn't seen the family as
a whole leave since December twenty twenty one. The father
would occasionally leave to get the mail or to get groceries,
but they called police and when police got there, the
(25:54):
parents let them in the house. Of course, the parents
put three masks on the children and claim that they
were very sick. The police claimed the kids were not
sick at all, but they were really dirty and just
not bathed properly. They also discovered that the children slept
in cribs and defaced monsters and dolls were found in
their rooms, and the house was littered with trash and
(26:15):
filled with lots of medication and masks. So they said
the state of the house was basically this house of horrors,
horrible for these children. So the kids were two eight
year old twins and a ten year old. So you
have to think when COVID started the kid, the one
kid was five and the twins were three, so they
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were well at least the three year olds. Maybe I
don't even know if you would put a three year
old in a crib, but it's a little bizarre that
they were still in cribs now.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's just it's sick when you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Look at this whole case though, and just think of this,
you go back to that time and you're like, people
were seriously that affected by this that it screwed them
up so bad. And I mean, of course, this is
this like a thing that they're legitimately fearful or is
this just like, okay, they're an abuse situation, Like is
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it an actual abuse situation or is it that the
parents are like psychologically really believe that their kids were
going to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Because I some of that shit.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was going on the news, I was like, these
people are like for me, I didn't get scared because
I know medicine, but I could imagine being a person
that doesn't really understand things, and listening to the things
they were saying on the news.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I actually I have a death counter on the television.
So you're every day you're being faced with how many
people are dying from this, even though you've said plenty
of times like people die every day, it happens. But
when you see this illness is wiping everybody out, it
scares everybody. And then you have the governments telling everybody
that they need to be afraid of it. And you
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know there's this like wit hunting against all these people
for not doing everything the government says. When if we
ever lived in a society where everybody does exactly what
the government says, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.
But I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know, because even there's some people close in
my life that I was just.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Like, all right, guy, you're going a little bit overboard, Jack,
but you have to if she's listening right now, no,
but you have to understand. But like background, I do
understand that, but I'm saying people don't. The people in
my life that were that were going a little overboard
are like completely fine now, like are people Yeah, yeah,
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they're they're fine. They're they go out and they're like
doing things with their kids. They might be like a
little bit more cautious if they're sick or something like that,
but they're they're fine. They're like this.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this more often.
But I see, I swear I see it around here.
Like I'm telling you, I see people wearing a mask
and you just.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Like, what are you doing right now, dude?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Like it's it's insane to me. Like, and especially in
the car. The car situation is the is the the
craziest part of it. If you're by yourself in your
own vehicle. I mean, that is just not how air
was well. But like, I genuinely think that people got
so scared that that they like can't get out of it.
And I do understand that because, like I said, like
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people don't understand it. And there's people that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Have already were prone to being what you would call
like a germaphobe to begin with, and this just like
threw them over the edge kind of. So I mean,
I don't know if you could find out about this family,
like were they completely normal before this happened and they
got so freaked out. But now it's like their kids
are actually being more hurt than they would be if
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they were in public. Listen. I think they're using it
as an excuse to shield abusing the kids, because if
you were just scared they were gonna get sick, why
are they living in a filthy like they could get
sick from living in a filthy house and being that
according to oh yeah, there was CC's all over the house.
So yeah, I think the COVID thing is like this
blanketed excuse, like we were afraid to send them outside. No,
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you probably had abusive tendencies before that, and you're using
it as an excuse. It's not like they went in
this house and these children weren't allowed outside, but they're
perfectly clean and the house is clean and everything like that.
Like this just seems like a really shitty family that
used this as an excuse to abuse their children.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, so I guess when the cops took the kids
out of the house, they were like, go in the
garden right now and just wait here. And apparently one
of the kids saw us now and like went they said,
went crazy and freaked out.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So now these kids that have not been out of
their house for more than half of their life right
in living in this situation, are now in a juvenile
center because their parents are both in prison.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's just so it's so terrible. They're going to need
like major rehab to just be able to I mean,
they haven't even associated with any people now. The interesting thing, though,
is is that they did mention in the article that
these children weren't malnourished. They were eating, they were being fed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It was like they weren't malnourished, but they were filthy
for living.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And I understand that, but it's just it's just it's
I think it's like a little bit of a different case,
and I'm just curious, like what the investigation is going
to show, Like was was the mom like doing school
with them at home? And like like I don't know,
Like I like it, not you Why would you say
not though?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You don't know? Like because if people have you listen,
I loved your children enough to homeschool them, you wouldn't
be letting them sleep around demon as dolls and living
in rooms of shit all over it.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I understand that, but I'm just saying, like, if they
were truly mental over this, then like they they didn't
say any of that in the article. It's not like
they were starving them and tying them up and all
this stuff. Like it just didn't say any of that.
That's like typically what you see in abuse situation.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I just don't buy it. There's plenty of agoraphobic people
that don't live in absolute, hoarded, filthy mess houses. Well,
there's plenty of people. No, you do, though, there's plenty
of people that do, but it's not every case. So
I just called bullshit on this. I think it's ridiculous.
All right. So last year, this six year old went
missing in South Africa and now her mother and two
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others have been convicted after they allegedly sold her to
a local healer that wanted the child's eyes and skin.
What did they so, she said she wanted the child
for her eyes and skin. Were they actually going to
like cut out her eyes and skin or did they
just think that? You know how, in some cultures, like
they think that people that are born a little bit
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different have like these magical powers. Like we talked about
a case once in the gross room of a child
that was born with a parasitic twin that had extra
limbs and they were considered to be like some kind
of a god, right because they were born in this
special kind of a way. And it could it be
like that because this kid, this kid's like really cute.
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Actually it's I hate seeing pictures of kids that get her.
And she's a very She's like a beautiful little girl
that's got this like really pretty like light brown skin
color with these bright blue eyes. And I could see
that she doesn't look like everybody else that lives there,
That's what I'm saying, or like a majority of people,
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So she might be like a coveted like special child
to some people or whatever in this culture. I don't know,
I really like, is it like some legit like they
were gonna like cut her eyes and skin out to
do some like thing. I don't know. But like the kids,
the kid's missing still, so why are they calling it
a kidnapping the kids? Like the kid's probably dead, Like
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where is she? Well, That's what I'm saying. We don't
really know the purpose of this, and we don't really
know for a fact if this kid went to this
quote unquote healer because a neighbor had testified that the
mother said she was potentially can considering selling her to
the healer and then suggested it had been done, and
then offered money to people that she talked about it
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with for their silence. But the child has been missing
since February of twenty twenty four. They don't know where
she is at all. They have questioned this healer but
said there's a total lack of evidence that this person's
even involved, so we don't know this for effect. But
according to the mother, that's what she said to a neighbor.
But a teacher had also asked about this child, and
the mother said she was quote on a ship inside
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a container and they were on the way to West Africa.
Would that not trigger like an alarm in your brain?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's funny that we always hear about these stories about
neighbors getting interviewed and people saying like the most outrageous
shit to people.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I just can't imagine, like me and my neighbors talk
about like plants and like people leaving their abandoned car
up front of one of our houses and like stuff
like that, like we're not talking about like I just
can't imagine somebody being like, oh, hey, I haven't seen
your son for a while Oh, yeah, he's like on
a ship inside of a container somewhere, you'd be like, okay, well, sometimes,
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you know, we talked about that couple in Utah, I
guess where the guy said like something, made a joke
about his wife poisoning them, and then she like actually
did and wrote a children's book about dead dad. We
did a high profile. That's a section on that too.
What I forget what, I don't remember their names, but
I think sometimes people just say really crazy shit and
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you just assume they're joking because it's so outrageous, and
then these things come up later and you're like, oh
my god, I can't even believe that. Well, part of
this one one of the really cool parts of the
gross Room.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I don't even know if you notice this, but when
we posted the the Lori Vallu high profile that's a
section yesterday, one of the people in the gross Room
said that she used to work with Tammy Davel.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, and it happened like it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Happens like in the grosser room, Like people are like like, oh, yeah,
I went to school with that person or this or that,
and you're like, wait a second, what, Like I could
talk to somebody that's like close to this case, because
that's outrageous to me, Like imagine knowing somebody involved in some.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Of these high profile cases. It's nuts. Let's move on
to this new research that's revealing that using marijuana during
pregnancy is linked to many problems. I mean, did we
not know this beforehand? No, because it's natural and there's
nothing wrong with weed, and it doesn't hurt anybody. Isn't
a lot of medication from plants.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'm just gonna say this out loud right now that
one of the worst things that has ever been done
in the history of the United States in the past
twenty years. And you could list lots of things, I
would say one of the biggest things that we're going
to look back and say was the most terrible mistake
was legalizing marijuana.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I really believe that, like that it's not okay, Karen,
because I've been saying this from the beginning that because
the way people's minds work is that people say, oh,
if the government says it's safe.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Then it's not bad. And then you've noticed since it's
been legal that you smell it everywhere everyone's using it.
It's just like it's been this study confirms that it's
double pregnant. People are using it double now than they
were before. All of it is because of the government
saying it's okay, So like bullshit.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Because it's thehol and cigarettes are legal to purchase too,
and people still, yeah, the harmful effects of them, so
you woant to call me a morodd people fucking drink
alcohol and spokes cigarettes when they're pregnant, fully knowing they
cause problems for decades and decades and decades. So obviously, yeah,
any type of my point, that's my point.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
If they weren't legal, people wouldn't be buying them at
the level they know.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
They wouldn't absolutely not. Hello, during prohibition, everybody was still
buying alcohol.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Not like not on the level that they do now,
and it wouldn't be the way it is now.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm guarantee you there's a there is analystic place I
am not. I am not. I guess what, like, you're
gonna look at this and smoke weed. Don't buy it
at a dispensary because it's so expensive and they still
getting it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Doesn't matter, the legality of it makes it okay. And
that's why you smell it all the time because people
are doing it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Now it just is it's.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Like, oh, before you'd be like, oh, well, I can't
smoke walking up the street, and I can't smoke in
my car because if I get pulled over, I'm gonna
like lose my license and ship. Now no, you just
do it because you're not gonna get in trouble anymore.
And that's that's what the problem is. It's because there's
something that when people in America are told that the
government says it's okay, and this could go as far
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as the FDA and drugs and everything else, that it's safe,
that there's some kind of thing that's like it's not
that bad. And when you tell people that marijuana used
has has skyrocketed since it's been.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Legalized, ever said weed was okay for pregnancy, No, you're
talking about people say that it's a plant. People say
that it's a yeah, but most pharmaceuticals and opiates are
also plants, So like that's idiotic. Nobody's like out there
saying we'd say for pregnancy. People falsely assume it is,
but they're idiots and uneducated about it. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It's because people think that it's okay because the government
legalizes it.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm telling you if that's what you want to think
of it, but it is.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
And when you watch this in fifty years, you're gonna
think I'm a genius, So don't I mean, okay, you
don't have to now, but you will when you see it,
because it's the same exact thing with the government saying
that it's okay to drink alcohol and everything else, and
the drinking and driving is out of control. Alcoholisms out
of control, cigarettes are out of control. All of it's
out of control.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Anyway, So this neat new research that was done.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So basically, like any medical professional that knows anything is saying, like,
whatever you think about marijuana, like throw it out the window.
Whatever studies that have been done over the course of
however many years back in the eighties and the nineties, Like,
none of that shit matters anymore, because we're dealing with
a whole new marijuana with a higher potency and genetically modified.
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It's just not the same exact drug as it was
when other studies were done. So we don't even know
the long term effects of it because we haven't been
studying enough. And this so now we've talked about on
this program already this year with multiple different things coming
out that it increases your risk of stroke by forty
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two percent, it increases your risk of a heart attack
by twenty five percent. It's been linked to cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis.
People that use it have long lasting mental disorders including depressions,
social anxieties, schizophrenia, self harm, and death, all of these
things that were not a thing until now. Right, So
now it's all coming out. It's the same exact thing
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that's going to happen with ozebic when you when you
think about like, this is this thing that's awesome, it's
this natural thing.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
We're going to use it all the time, and now
all of a.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Sudden, it's like it's like ozempics and miracle drug and
then just give it a couple years and that shit's
going to be like off the market.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Probably it's that terrible for you. So okay, let's go
back to this.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So Jama Pediatrics analyzed fifty one different recent studies that
have to do with marijuana over twenty one million people
over the course of all of those studies, So that's
this is a huge study over the course of a
lot of people, and it shows that participants of marijuana
use during pregnancy was linked to listen to these staggering statistics,
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fifty two percent higher risk of pre term delivery before
thirty seven weeks, seventy five percent higher risk of a
low birth weight which is less than five point five
pounds at delivery, and one So only six of the
studies of those that were studied showed cannabis use and death.
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And of those studies, they found that there was a
twenty nine percent high risk of infant death associated with
the use of marijuana during pregnancy. Okay, that that is
Like these numbers are huge, huge, huge and big big
groups of study twenty one million.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I see what you're saying, but I don't personally find
this information shocking, is what I'm getting it. Like, of course,
when you do a recreational drug when you're pregnant, it's
going to be harmful to your child, like obviously, but
it's legal now, so it's it's not as harmful. Your
argument about the legals, like cahol is legal and it
is harmful to babies, sigarette is cigarettes are legal and
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they're harmful to babies. Weed is legal babies. So since
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Marijuana use has doubled in pregnant women alone, and it
is more than double. It's other, it's it's more than
doubled in everyone else. It's it's exacerbated since it's become legal.
So if you don't see the correlation between the legality
of it and the increase in use, then like I
don't know what to tell you, okay, because that that's
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the turning point when you want to say the turning
point of something like when did school shootings increase?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Like, okay, it was the Internet.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, there were school shootings before the Internet, But when
did they get crazier because of the Internet. Yeah, people
spoke the legality, But now, when did it start doubling
and increasing significantly?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Is when it became legal, that's all. And also only
have these numbers because it's legal, and more people are
admitting to do it because they can't get in trouble
for it anymore. So we don't know if these numbers
are accurate, because they're accurate. Listen, Listen, I don't give
a shit about any of the numbers actually, because like
I'm a human that goes outside and sees with my
own eyes and smells with my own nose. I see
what's happening. But if you can say ten years ago,
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if I smoked weed when I was a teenager, I
would have said, no, I don't, and I did. Guess what,
that fucked up the study. So like, ok the numbers
are high, but they've been high. So like, no, we
need to translating. You're you're so ridiculous. Yes, you you
actually think that the numbers of marijuana use aren't higher. Now, like,
do you live in society and go outside. I just
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said they're higher. I just said, but they have always
been high. It's not like the people literally they have
literally never been anywhere near where they're at right now. Okay,
but you're acting like nobody in the world smoked weed
until they made it. No I didn't. I just said
that it had significantly increased since it got legal. I
said that, Okay five times. Let's wrap this up because
the bottom line is, obviously it's dangerous to smoke or
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use any marijuana products like it is with any other
recreational drug and most pharmaceuticals when you're pregnant. So you
need to do your own research and not expect that
the government is telling you something is safe. Like, that's
idiotic to just believe that at face value because something
is legal but it's safe. It's idiotic.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
But it's the psychology of people. Okay, just trust me,
Like I'm telling you right now, if they said tomorrow
that heroin was legal, I guarantee you that the numbers
would double. I'm telling you right now. I don't think
anybody doing heroin is worried about it. If it's legal or
not they want. I'm telling you, though, if the government
says that it's considered to be a recreational drug that's safe,
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more people will start using it.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Okay, sure, but at the end of the day, it's
still your responsibility to know it's safe to put in you.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Of course, it's everybody's responsibility. But I'm just putting it
out there that that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the
huge Lady Gaga concert that happened over the weekend, and
the foiled terrorism plot, people paying people to hold their
place in line for the Diddy trial, Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper
is back in the news, crazy COVID people, a mom
doing the unthinkable to her child, and a new study
(00:44):
suggesting that marijuana use during pregnancy is very harmful.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
To a fetus. Like, uh, all this and more on
today's episode, Let's get started with the Lady Gaga concert. So,
Lady Gaga had this enormous free concert in Rio de
Janeiro that was like, I saw those pictures on social media.
It was outrageous. I can't believe how many people were there.
It was a record breaking event with two point five
(01:08):
million people. Apparently Madonna had done it before and only
had about one point five million people. She like, that's
just like so impressive.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
When I saw the video, it just doesn't even look
real and it just kept going and going and the
people and the people.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was like, this is so cool. It's a really
huge accomplishment for her. I mean, that is so many people.
I think about all these giant festivals that sometimes re
took one hundred thousand people, and I can't imagine two
over two million people. It is so insane. I can't
even believe they have the infrastructure to hold something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know, it's just like it's so grand and but
really good for her, you know, but of course we
can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So after the show, it came out that several people
had been planning in a tack on the concert, specifically
targeting the LGBTQ plus community. This is like so fucked up.
The more I was researching into this, it's just so
horrible what happened. These people were posing as Lady Gaga fans.
They're trying to recruit teenagers online to carry out these
attacks with explosives and molotov cocktails. They were calling it
(02:11):
Operation Fake Monster because her fan base is called little Monsters.
And on top of that, so they found these two
people that were trying to recruit these teenagers and their
goal was to quote gay notoriety on social media. And
then a third person was found planning a separate attack
where he was planning on doing a Satanic ritual killing
a child or a baby door in the concert. What
(02:34):
the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know. It's
side note. What what are our fans called little monster?
Hers are called little monsters? Well, we guys have anu
for our fan base. Yeah, you guys have to think
of something. So if you guys, when I come up
with something, because when it was just you, we were
jokingly calling people fan jemmies but which worked. But now
(02:56):
that you're there too, and it's like a new platform,
which should be something different, and we don't want to
call you like death heeads or something, because I feel
like grateful dead fans might already be called that, and
it's kind of similar to methods. No, no, you guys
could come up. You guys do have to be like
on meth to listen to this this show and like
(03:19):
enjoy it. But okay, every time somebody's like what your
podcasts about, I'm like, I don't even want to talk
about Yeah, all right, so we're going we get distracted
as usual. Okay, so so these people we're gonna use
IDs like, so I'm all tough cocktail.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So you're thinking like an ID is terrible. It's the
stuff that they use in war all the time. When
you see these soldiers getting their limbs blown off, especially
something like that was used for the Boston marathon bombing,
and you know how devastating that was. So things like that,
these these homemade explosive devices and like what in a
(03:55):
pressure cooker or something like that that just carries shrapnel
and can and just cause not even kill people, to
just cause complete destruction to limbs and life threatening injuries,
which is crazy. But but then you got this and
they're teenagers, so I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
They're like actually children.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And then on top of that, the other person was
going to sacrifice a baby or a child because they
said that Lady Gaga was a Satanist and he wanted
to respond in the same way by killing a child,
Like what like this was actually going to happen if
how did? Do you know how they figured it out?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I believe they got tipped off, And they're pretty discreet
about their handling of this situation because they didn't want
to cause mass panic, which I will say was the
right move because one of her fans that had gone
to it said she was happy to find out not happy,
but she was she felt better knowing about it after
instead of leading up to it because she might not
have been comfortable going. And I agree with that. I mean,
(04:56):
I wouldn't go, I dare if I knew there was
a threat.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
If the police are there are one hundred percent confident
that they have the people that are responsible for it
was because I know that they were in a group
that radicalize young people online of course on promoting hate crimes, uh,
self harm, pedophilia. One of the teenagers actually had child
porn on their phone. Like this person, this child is
(05:22):
a terrible human being. Child porn on your phone, and
you're planning on killing a bunch of people, Like you're
you're like who raised this person?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Really? Who raised this kid? Okay, side, it's generally about
a bunch of people that are lost. So yeah, when
it thinks that they've something, he's a little lost. He's
a gross human being.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So regardless that they get they're on these forums and
I say this all the time, like, like a good
example is the Grosser Room. Like we're we're an online
forum and we have we have lots of people there
that are all into the same thing, and we talk
about it, and it's like a a nice space for
people to go to and like talk to people with
(06:04):
like interest. The problem is is that there's similar things
that are people are committing crimes and talking about really
dark stuff like child porn and killing people and just
terrible things. And so I guess that that's probably how
they got caught. And if the police thought that they
had all of the people that were the threat under control,
(06:25):
maybe that's why they didn't tell Lady Gaga and they
didn't tell they didn't tell any of her people because
did a similar thing happen to with Tyler Swift that
she had to cancel her She ended up canceling the show.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, she had to cancel a show because of a
bomb threat and a bomb I believe actually went off
at an area Ona Grande concert, So there is fear
of it and she I mean to me as a
perform if I was a performer and I found out
about this beforehand, I would have wanted to cancel the
event because.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, and that's see this is the messed up though,
because she would have canceled the event right, and not
for her safety, but like you have people that are
coming to see you like, imagine how guilty you would
feel and horrible that people were getting hurt when they
were there to see you, Like, it's just a safety
measure all around. If she canceled that, that would have
(07:21):
been really bad for the city she was in, the
tourism everybody that was there. I mean, people freaked out
about Taylor Swift's concert, and I think that that was
like how many people or forty thousand people or something
like that for that concert. It was a stadium concert
that will flipping out, Like imagine two million people. I mean,
(07:41):
if she was having this free concert there, I'm assuming
that a lot of people were traveling from out of
town to be there to see this concert.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And so I don't know how things went down there.
But because of the amount of people, do you think
everybody was going through a security system to get access
to that area? I would say no, And like, you
can't have that many people. If you see all the
people that were so close quarters, you can't say something
like that or there would have been a mass cast.
But I'm not sure if they handled it right.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, I guess they did handle it right because
luckily it all worked out, But I just I can't
imagine that they didn't have a little bit of anxiety
as well, because even though you have okay, you have
three people in custody, there's another three people that are
just as evil that aren't even on your radar yet,
you know what I mean. So that's and it's unfortunate
because now we're getting to the spot in life where
(08:34):
where events aren't happening anymore because of shit like this,
and it's it's sad, like there's local events around here
that are getting shut down because people are just like
acting out of control, like a bunch of kids showing
up and like start in trouble and like they're just like,
you know what, we're not going to have these days
to celebrate our town anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And you're like, oh, okay, that's just like where we're at. Well,
you have to find a middle ground mentally where we
live in a society where these things happen and it's
really shitty and you know, there's always some fear going
on when you leave your house. But I mean, and
we're gonna talk about that late in a story coming
up later too, but you have to live in a
(09:14):
in this like state of mind where you understand something
like that could happen. But you can't like just be
sequestered to your house the rest of your life. So
you just need to be very vigilant when you're out
and be prepared. And obviously sometimes you can't get out
of certain situations. But I think people just need to
be aware. We live in a society where everybody's staring
at their phone all of the time. Everybody's just so
(09:35):
checked out. We need to be aware of our surroundings,
and I think that's a big problem we have a
lot of these times people are so checked out. I
just said that to Gabe this weekend. I was like,
all cops. Cops don't even need to pull people over
for speeding anymore. They could literally park on the side
of the road and just watch every single person looking
in their lap at their phone and pull people over
all day long for it. It's like the easiest job, seriously,
(09:59):
Like it's it's so out of control driving. We'll be
driving on the highway going sixty miles an hour and
you know, Gabe's like a total talk about road rage.
He's gonna be the next one that poops on some
but like he goes around someone that's like driving like
a total tool, you know, And I look over and
I'm like, oh, surprise, they're looking down at their lap
(10:19):
on the freaking highway, Like yeah, I mean, people are
just totally engrossed in their phone and not paying attention,
which is which is good for the terrorists because they
just don't have nobody's watching for them, you know what
I mean. But I think anybody's big everyone listening to
the show could say one of their biggest fears is
just like going and doing something recreational that didn't need
(10:40):
to be done, like going to a concert and then
like one of their kids or them dying there. Like
it's it's such a fear that that that's why people
decide to not go to things like that, I mean,
because if that does happen, Like, how do you even
live the rest of your life after something like that?
You know, Yeah, but you have to live your life
at the same time. I know it happens at the
(11:01):
grocery store, it happens at big events like this. You
don't know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And guess what, It'll happen anywhere because there's just so
much potential.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, things happen all the time, and you're like
like like nine to eleven being one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, oh, airplanes going into buildings or like, that was
never on anybody's radar, right at least at least mine
or anybody I know. And then all of a sudden,
you're like, Okay, so that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's like, oh, cars driving in the crowds is a thing.
Like there's all these new things that happen, and there'll
be new things that happen every year, so you can't
ever really be prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
No, I think the important thing is, like, obviously there's
just some situations you can't get out of, but you
need to make sure when you're out in public that
you're aware of your situations and not staring at your phone.
I mean, I'm guilty of that too. So now that
I'm preaching this, I'm gonna try to practice it as
best as I can. Game's actually really good at that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Like every single time we're in a situation that we're
around a lot of people, he'll be like, listen.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He does it at the Phillies game stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He's like, if there's an emergency, that's where we're going.
He says it every single time, or somewhere like it's crazy.
And when we're on the boardwalk, when we're here or there,
like he's always just like, this is the plan in
case anything happens, and it's it's like sucks that you
have to think that way. But and like, I just
pray to guy that I'm never in a situation where
(12:22):
I have to like see if that plan actually works.
But yeah, it's it's messed up. All right, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Ditty Okay, So right now they're doing jury selection for
ditty trials. So it's not going to officially start until
they pick the jury members because I can't really say jurers, like,
but when they pick the jerry, it'll start. Which I
was a little surprised at how quick gets starting, but
I had brought this point up to my husband and
he was saying that maybe they want to try to
(12:49):
not risk other new information coming up, which is why
it's so quick. But anyway, it's happening, and there's such
high demand to get in the courthouse right now that
people are paying people to wait in line for them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So what is their only X amount of seats in
order to I mean, like this is the thing. A
jury is not even picked yet, right, so it's not
even starting yet, So what are they waiting in line?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They're waiting in line until it gets picked. Well, I
don't understand there. So every day you could go into
the courthouse, but there's no cameras allowed, So I'm assuming
most of this is going to be journalists that want
to get in and hear the information themselves instead of
hearing a reporter, because the only information we're going to
get is from reporters that were inside the courthouse. There's
no cameras, but regular people are allowed in there too. Yeah,
(13:37):
I think anybody's allowed in there. Okay, it's gonna be
a mixture of nosy people and reporters. Okay, so this
is this is like they're gonna go sit in while
they're picking the people for the jury. Yeah, okay, there's
some juicy questions coming up in the jury selection questionnaire,
which we'll touch on in a second. But the demand
is so high already, I can't imagine how crazy it's
(13:59):
going to be when they start having people testify and
when it's really underway. So there's a line wrapped around
the block to just go in and hear this, and
people are paying people up to thirty two dollars an
hour to sit in their spot, but they said the
going rates twenty five dollars an hour. I can't believe
this exists. It's insane to me. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, Listen, Like I was thinking about like some of
our friends that are reporters, and it's like, if you
want to get this scoop, like I certainly would. I
would consider that really because if there's only X amount
of spots, like you want to make sure you get
the spot, and you might not be able to stay,
like you have to have people on shifts sitting out there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I think I was thinking about that too. Maybe
we should ask Lauren about it because somebody like her
would want to go in there, yeah, at the scoop herself,
but she's a busy person, so it might be worth
the money to pay somebody so you could just slip
in right at the perfect time and then you could
go about your day. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
See, I could understand that it makes more sense for
person that's doing it for their job, but like just
a regular Like I'm sitting there thinking that this is
just like regular people that want to watch and I'm
like ghetto life, Like, why do you have so much
free time to just sit around and wait to go
watch this.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know. But talk about the questionnaire because some of
the names are really rando. Yeah, So all the duror
I can't say this word. All the jury members are
given a questionnaire and some of the questions are just
like have they ever been victims of some type of
sexual assault or abuse or something? But one of the
(15:35):
really weird things is they were given a list of
at least one hundred and ninety people, including the names
of celebrities and public figures, and ask to indicate which
names they recognize. And some of those names that have
come out are Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, Kid Cuddy,
Mike Myers, and Moore. And it's unclear how they're tied
to the case, but those names are up.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Meyers like from Saturday Night Live, I think, so what
that's so random?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Who Who's Michael B. Jordan? So, Michael B. Jordan's that
he worked on the movie I worked on too? He
is from my experience with him, he was a very
nice person. But he is an actor. He was in
Decreed movies and a bunch of other stuff. Is he
related to the other Michael Jordan. I don't think so.
But in SAG you can't have the same name as
(16:22):
somebody else. So if Michael Jordan was already registered in
the Screen Actors Guild, you have to have some differentiating
like initial or something. So I think ms in space jam,
so he might be enlisted in that. Oh yeah, because
I think even in a bunch of commercials, who's Kid Coody? Well,
Kid Cuddy is a musician. Kanye West we know is
(16:46):
a musician. We talked about him on yesterday's episode. I
don't understand why Mike Myers is wrapped into this, but
it's not necessarily saying these people are guilty, Like he
might have just been at a party, but I don't
know because they haven't revealed how these people are connected
to the case. Hit. Yeah, I mean Kanye West is
like whatever, like, but you don't want to see your
(17:08):
name in a headline associated with this trafficking case.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Obviously, the same with It's the same with Epstein. It's
just like all these people that ever like sat next
to them at a party, like, are getting involved and
that sucks for them because there might genuinely be like
no connection. And I just thought it just was such
a random list of names. So all right, well, we're
gonna stap the date on this case and see, like
(17:33):
what happens, because I'm sure it's gonna be juicy.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, But at the same time, I kind of think
the paying somebody to wait in line for you is genius.
So if it's your job, if it's your job, if
you're just like a nosy, lazy person, then I don't
think it works. All right. So Wanda Barzi, who was
convicted in the early two thousands for kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart,
(17:57):
has been arrested after she allegedly visited two parks which
she's not allowed to go to because she's a registered
sex offender. Why is this woman out of jail? Out
of jail? Like I don't understand, Like, so, so what
did when? Did this happen? Back in two thousand and two? Okay,
so the kidnapping happened in two thousand and two. So
they held her, her and Wanda's her and her husband
(18:20):
held Elizabeth Smart captive for nine months. They can out
of her home, Yes he was. He was working on
the home right, like a contractor or gardener or something.
I don't really remember the details of that part of
the case. This is actually something that we should look into,
because I totally forgot about this, But as soon as
this came up today, I was thinking, like, I can't
(18:43):
even believe that the person that was involved with this
even ever saw the light of day. Again, well, that
was my fresh complaint too. So the kidnapping happened between
two thousand, So they kidnapped her in two thousand and two.
She was found in two thousand and three alive, thank goodness.
And in twenty and ten and Wanda was sitting stiff
fifteen years in federal prison but was released eight years later,
(19:04):
so she only served half of her sentence. She's a
registered sex offender because of this, and she's been wandering
around parks like I'm sorry she.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Would encourage her husband to continuously rape Elizabeth Smart, who
they both kidnapped out of her bedroom as a teenager.
And this woman is like out and about yes, she
she should like have the death penalty along with her husband.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
This is so I don't know, Like I know that
there's lots of interviews with this Elizabeth Smart woman and
now she's like an advocate for child victims and stuff
like that, But what like This had to be so
devastating on.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Not only her life but her parents' life. Could you
imagine something like that happening and not knowing what happened
to your child for nine months? Nine months? Like, and
imagine knowing what happened to your child within that nine months.
Like these people are disgusting humans that should not be
able to see the light of day.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I one hundred percent agree. Like people want to
argue that prison can rehab some people. You can't rehab
kidnapping tendencies. I'm sorry. Like, if you're gonna hold a
fourteen year old captive for nine months and have your
husband's sexual assault her over and over and over again
for your sick satisfaction, fuck you. You deserve to die. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Really, it's it's really like I don't feel bad for
people like this at all, Like I don't care if
she wants to be rehabilitated, like and Elizabeth. He has
to live her life knowing this woman is out there
and now, oh, like shocker, she's been arrested for going
into two parks where other children are.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Why is this person walking the streets? She's clearly a
harmed in society. Then her husband Brian David Mitchell is
serving a life sentence for the kidnapping, also deserves death.
What's to say he's not gonna get out for no reason? Yeah,
I mean that's that's the thing with the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I guess that always that there's always a fear because
at least that the death penalty is like a very
certain thing that happens to I don't know, there's we
we actually did a whole entire external exam with Matt Mangino,
who wrote a book called The Executioner's Toll, and it's
it's very good, and it's a very good conversation I
(21:15):
had with him about the death penalty and just all
of these like pros and cons of it and things
like that. But overall, like when I think about this,
I just think, for example, like Lacy Peterson and all
that stuff, and and like how her mom's been going
through this hell and he initially got the death penalty
and now he does it, and now they're talking about
like retrying him and getting him out of it completely,
(21:38):
and and like if he's innocent, then I guess that's
why it's good that the death penalty didn't happen for him.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But like if they're able to really prove it. But
like just the whole situation of it is so.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So pointing towards the fact that that he did it.
So now she might have to live with the fact that,
like there's even a possibility that this guy might get out.
I mean, her life has has been really buy this
and so it's like things like that, and prison isn't absolute,
Like there's always a way to get out of it,
and there's always somebody willing to stand up for somebody
(22:11):
to get out of it. And how did she even
get half of her sentence because she was good in jail?
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sign up. So a couple in Spain was arrested after
it was discovered they kept their three kids captive in
their home since twenty twenty one due to COVID concerns.
This is this is mind blowing, right, Yes, I get Yeah.
So a neighbor called the cops and was just like,
(24:21):
I don't think I've seen these kids going to school
in years, Like what's going on? Which is interesting because
we had just been talking about this recently. I guess
with the kids going to school, but like, does this
person know for sure they're not homeschooled? And the police
were saying at first that there was no immediate red flags,
of course until they went inside of the house. Well,
(24:41):
I think this is this is an important case to
talk about because I especially like I live on a
street that our houses are very close together, there's multiple
children living on the street, and I kind of like
see people coming and going all the time. So whenever
you see like you get to know I know, people's habits,
and whenever you see your neighbors like something's like not off,
(25:04):
it's something should click inside you like, hey, maybe I
should call the police.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And it doesn't even have to be like you haven't
seen the kids. It could be like an older person
you haven't seen left their house or whatever. For a while,
but this like, it's good that this person had some
kind of an instinct to be like something's up here.
I don't know if they didn't see them getting on
the school bus, or maybe they have kids that go
to the school that are like, we haven't seen these kids.
But like, the thing is is that even if the
(25:32):
kids weren't going to school, like, this person wasn't seeing
the kids play outside or anything like, something was unusual,
which is why they called police. Yeah, and on top
of that, they realized they hadn't seen the family as
a whole leave since December twenty twenty one. The father
would occasionally leave to get the mail or to get groceries,
but they called police and when police got there, the
(25:54):
parents let them in the house. Of course, the parents
put three masks on the children and claim that they
were very sick. The police claimed the kids were not
sick at all, but they were really dirty and just
not bathed properly. They also discovered that the children slept
in cribs and defaced monsters and dolls were found in
their rooms, and the house was littered with trash and
(26:15):
filled with lots of medication and masks. So they said
the state of the house was basically this house of horrors,
horrible for these children. So the kids were two eight
year old twins and a ten year old. So you
have to think when COVID started the kid, the one
kid was five and the twins were three, so they
(26:36):
were well at least the three year olds. Maybe I
don't even know if you would put a three year
old in a crib, but it's a little bizarre that
they were still in cribs now.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's just it's sick when you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Look at this whole case though, and just think of this,
you go back to that time and you're like, people
were seriously that affected by this that it screwed them
up so bad. And I mean, of course, this is
this like a thing that they're legitimately fearful or is
this just like, okay, they're an abuse situation, Like is
(27:11):
it an actual abuse situation or is it that the
parents are like psychologically really believe that their kids were
going to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Because I some of that shit.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was going on the news, I was like, these
people are like for me, I didn't get scared because
I know medicine, but I could imagine being a person
that doesn't really understand things, and listening to the things
they were saying on the news.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I actually I have a death counter on the television.
So you're every day you're being faced with how many
people are dying from this, even though you've said plenty
of times like people die every day, it happens. But
when you see this illness is wiping everybody out, it
scares everybody. And then you have the governments telling everybody
that they need to be afraid of it. And you
(27:55):
know there's this like wit hunting against all these people
for not doing everything the government says. When if we
ever lived in a society where everybody does exactly what
the government says, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.
But I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't know, because even there's some people close in
my life that I was just.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Like, all right, guy, you're going a little bit overboard, Jack,
but you have to if she's listening right now, no,
but you have to understand. But like background, I do
understand that, but I'm saying people don't. The people in
my life that were that were going a little overboard
are like completely fine now, like are people Yeah, yeah,
(28:39):
they're they're fine. They're they go out and they're like
doing things with their kids. They might be like a
little bit more cautious if they're sick or something like that,
but they're they're fine. They're like this.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this more often.
But I see, I swear I see it around here.
Like I'm telling you, I see people wearing a mask
and you just.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Like, what are you doing right now, dude?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Like it's it's insane to me. Like, and especially in
the car. The car situation is the is the the
craziest part of it. If you're by yourself in your
own vehicle. I mean, that is just not how air
was well. But like, I genuinely think that people got
so scared that that they like can't get out of it.
And I do understand that because, like I said, like
(29:25):
people don't understand it. And there's people that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Have already were prone to being what you would call
like a germaphobe to begin with, and this just like
threw them over the edge kind of. So I mean,
I don't know if you could find out about this family,
like were they completely normal before this happened and they
got so freaked out. But now it's like their kids
are actually being more hurt than they would be if
(29:47):
they were in public. Listen. I think they're using it
as an excuse to shield abusing the kids, because if
you were just scared they were gonna get sick, why
are they living in a filthy like they could get
sick from living in a filthy house and being that
according to oh yeah, there was CC's all over the house.
So yeah, I think the COVID thing is like this
blanketed excuse, like we were afraid to send them outside. No,
(30:08):
you probably had abusive tendencies before that, and you're using
it as an excuse. It's not like they went in
this house and these children weren't allowed outside, but they're
perfectly clean and the house is clean and everything like that.
Like this just seems like a really shitty family that
used this as an excuse to abuse their children.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, so I guess when the cops took the kids
out of the house, they were like, go in the
garden right now and just wait here. And apparently one
of the kids saw us now and like went they said,
went crazy and freaked out.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So now these kids that have not been out of
their house for more than half of their life right
in living in this situation, are now in a juvenile
center because their parents are both in prison.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's just so it's so terrible. They're going to need
like major rehab to just be able to I mean,
they haven't even associated with any people now. The interesting thing, though,
is is that they did mention in the article that
these children weren't malnourished. They were eating, they were being fed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It was like they weren't malnourished, but they were filthy
for living.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And I understand that, but it's just it's just it's
I think it's like a little bit of a different case,
and I'm just curious, like what the investigation is going
to show, Like was was the mom like doing school
with them at home? And like like I don't know,
Like I like it, not you Why would you say
not though?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You don't know? Like because if people have you listen,
I loved your children enough to homeschool them, you wouldn't
be letting them sleep around demon as dolls and living
in rooms of shit all over it.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I understand that, but I'm just saying, like, if they
were truly mental over this, then like they they didn't
say any of that in the article. It's not like
they were starving them and tying them up and all
this stuff. Like it just didn't say any of that.
That's like typically what you see in abuse situation.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I just don't buy it. There's plenty of agoraphobic people
that don't live in absolute, hoarded, filthy mess houses. Well,
there's plenty of people. No, you do, though, there's plenty
of people that do, but it's not every case. So
I just called bullshit on this. I think it's ridiculous.
All right. So last year, this six year old went
missing in South Africa and now her mother and two
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others have been convicted after they allegedly sold her to
a local healer that wanted the child's eyes and skin.
What did they so, she said she wanted the child
for her eyes and skin. Were they actually going to
like cut out her eyes and skin or did they
just think that? You know how, in some cultures, like
they think that people that are born a little bit
(32:41):
different have like these magical powers. Like we talked about
a case once in the gross room of a child
that was born with a parasitic twin that had extra
limbs and they were considered to be like some kind
of a god, right because they were born in this
special kind of a way. And it could it be
like that because this kid, this kid's like really cute.
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Actually it's I hate seeing pictures of kids that get her.
And she's a very She's like a beautiful little girl
that's got this like really pretty like light brown skin
color with these bright blue eyes. And I could see
that she doesn't look like everybody else that lives there,
That's what I'm saying, or like a majority of people,
(33:24):
So she might be like a coveted like special child
to some people or whatever in this culture. I don't know,
I really like, is it like some legit like they
were gonna like cut her eyes and skin out to
do some like thing. I don't know. But like the kids,
the kid's missing still, so why are they calling it
a kidnapping the kids? Like the kid's probably dead, Like
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where is she? Well, That's what I'm saying. We don't
really know the purpose of this, and we don't really
know for a fact if this kid went to this
quote unquote healer because a neighbor had testified that the
mother said she was potentially can considering selling her to
the healer and then suggested it had been done, and
then offered money to people that she talked about it
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with for their silence. But the child has been missing
since February of twenty twenty four. They don't know where
she is at all. They have questioned this healer but
said there's a total lack of evidence that this person's
even involved, so we don't know this for effect. But
according to the mother, that's what she said to a neighbor.
But a teacher had also asked about this child, and
the mother said she was quote on a ship inside
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a container and they were on the way to West Africa.
Would that not trigger like an alarm in your brain?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's funny that we always hear about these stories about
neighbors getting interviewed and people saying like the most outrageous
shit to people.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I just can't imagine, like me and my neighbors talk
about like plants and like people leaving their abandoned car
up front of one of our houses and like stuff
like that, like we're not talking about like I just
can't imagine somebody being like, oh, hey, I haven't seen
your son for a while Oh, yeah, he's like on
a ship inside of a container somewhere, you'd be like, okay, well, sometimes,
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you know, we talked about that couple in Utah, I
guess where the guy said like something, made a joke
about his wife poisoning them, and then she like actually
did and wrote a children's book about dead dad. We
did a high profile. That's a section on that too.
What I forget what, I don't remember their names, but
I think sometimes people just say really crazy shit and
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you just assume they're joking because it's so outrageous, and
then these things come up later and you're like, oh
my god, I can't even believe that. Well, part of
this one one of the really cool parts of the
gross Room.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I don't even know if you notice this, but when
we posted the the Lori Vallu high profile that's a
section yesterday, one of the people in the gross Room
said that she used to work with Tammy Davel.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, and it happened like it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Happens like in the grosser room, Like people are like like, oh, yeah,
I went to school with that person or this or that,
and you're like, wait a second, what, Like I could
talk to somebody that's like close to this case, because
that's outrageous to me, Like imagine knowing somebody involved in some.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Of these high profile cases. It's nuts. Let's move on
to this new research that's revealing that using marijuana during
pregnancy is linked to many problems. I mean, did we
not know this beforehand? No, because it's natural and there's
nothing wrong with weed, and it doesn't hurt anybody. Isn't
a lot of medication from plants.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'm just gonna say this out loud right now that
one of the worst things that has ever been done
in the history of the United States in the past
twenty years. And you could list lots of things, I
would say one of the biggest things that we're going
to look back and say was the most terrible mistake
was legalizing marijuana.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I really believe that, like that it's not okay, Karen,
because I've been saying this from the beginning that because
the way people's minds work is that people say, oh,
if the government says it's safe.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Then it's not bad. And then you've noticed since it's
been legal that you smell it everywhere everyone's using it.
It's just like it's been this study confirms that it's
double pregnant. People are using it double now than they
were before. All of it is because of the government
saying it's okay, So like bullshit.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Because it's thehol and cigarettes are legal to purchase too,
and people still, yeah, the harmful effects of them, so
you woant to call me a morodd people fucking drink
alcohol and spokes cigarettes when they're pregnant, fully knowing they
cause problems for decades and decades and decades. So obviously, yeah,
any type of my point, that's my point.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
If they weren't legal, people wouldn't be buying them at
the level they know.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
They wouldn't absolutely not. Hello, during prohibition, everybody was still
buying alcohol.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Not like not on the level that they do now,
and it wouldn't be the way it is now.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm guarantee you there's a there is analystic place I
am not. I am not. I guess what, like, you're
gonna look at this and smoke weed. Don't buy it
at a dispensary because it's so expensive and they still
getting it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Doesn't matter, the legality of it makes it okay. And
that's why you smell it all the time because people
are doing it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Now it just is it's.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Like, oh, before you'd be like, oh, well, I can't
smoke walking up the street, and I can't smoke in
my car because if I get pulled over, I'm gonna
like lose my license and ship. Now no, you just
do it because you're not gonna get in trouble anymore.
And that's that's what the problem is. It's because there's
something that when people in America are told that the
government says it's okay, and this could go as far
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as the FDA and drugs and everything else, that it's safe,
that there's some kind of thing that's like it's not
that bad. And when you tell people that marijuana used
has has skyrocketed since it's been.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Legalized, ever said weed was okay for pregnancy, No, you're
talking about people say that it's a plant. People say
that it's a yeah, but most pharmaceuticals and opiates are
also plants, So like that's idiotic. Nobody's like out there
saying we'd say for pregnancy. People falsely assume it is,
but they're idiots and uneducated about it. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It's because people think that it's okay because the government
legalizes it.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm telling you if that's what you want to think
of it, but it is.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
And when you watch this in fifty years, you're gonna
think I'm a genius, So don't I mean, okay, you
don't have to now, but you will when you see it,
because it's the same exact thing with the government saying
that it's okay to drink alcohol and everything else, and
the drinking and driving is out of control. Alcoholisms out
of control, cigarettes are out of control. All of it's
out of control.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Anyway, So this neat new research that was done.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So basically, like any medical professional that knows anything is saying, like,
whatever you think about marijuana, like throw it out the window.
Whatever studies that have been done over the course of
however many years back in the eighties and the nineties, Like,
none of that shit matters anymore, because we're dealing with
a whole new marijuana with a higher potency and genetically modified.
(40:11):
It's just not the same exact drug as it was
when other studies were done. So we don't even know
the long term effects of it because we haven't been
studying enough. And this so now we've talked about on
this program already this year with multiple different things coming
out that it increases your risk of stroke by forty
(40:31):
two percent, it increases your risk of a heart attack
by twenty five percent. It's been linked to cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis.
People that use it have long lasting mental disorders including depressions,
social anxieties, schizophrenia, self harm, and death, all of these
things that were not a thing until now. Right, So
now it's all coming out. It's the same exact thing
(40:52):
that's going to happen with ozebic when you when you
think about like, this is this thing that's awesome, it's
this natural thing.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
We're going to use it all the time, and now
all of a.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Sudden, it's like it's like ozempics and miracle drug and
then just give it a couple years and that shit's
going to be like off the market.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Probably it's that terrible for you. So okay, let's go
back to this.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So Jama Pediatrics analyzed fifty one different recent studies that
have to do with marijuana over twenty one million people
over the course of all of those studies, So that's
this is a huge study over the course of a
lot of people, and it shows that participants of marijuana
use during pregnancy was linked to listen to these staggering statistics,
(41:33):
fifty two percent higher risk of pre term delivery before
thirty seven weeks, seventy five percent higher risk of a
low birth weight which is less than five point five
pounds at delivery, and one So only six of the
studies of those that were studied showed cannabis use and death.
(41:56):
And of those studies, they found that there was a
twenty nine percent high risk of infant death associated with
the use of marijuana during pregnancy. Okay, that that is
Like these numbers are huge, huge, huge and big big
groups of study twenty one million.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I see what you're saying, but I don't personally find
this information shocking, is what I'm getting it. Like, of course,
when you do a recreational drug when you're pregnant, it's
going to be harmful to your child, like obviously, but
it's legal now, so it's it's not as harmful. Your
argument about the legals, like cahol is legal and it
is harmful to babies, sigarette is cigarettes are legal and
(42:35):
they're harmful to babies. Weed is legal babies. So since
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Marijuana use has doubled in pregnant women alone, and it
is more than double. It's other, it's it's more than
doubled in everyone else. It's it's exacerbated since it's become legal.
So if you don't see the correlation between the legality
of it and the increase in use, then like I
don't know what to tell you, okay, because that that's
(43:02):
the turning point when you want to say the turning
point of something like when did school shootings increase?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Like, okay, it was the Internet.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, there were school shootings before the Internet, But when
did they get crazier because of the Internet. Yeah, people
spoke the legality, But now, when did it start doubling
and increasing significantly?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Is when it became legal, that's all. And also only
have these numbers because it's legal, and more people are
admitting to do it because they can't get in trouble
for it anymore. So we don't know if these numbers
are accurate, because they're accurate. Listen, Listen, I don't give
a shit about any of the numbers actually, because like
I'm a human that goes outside and sees with my
own eyes and smells with my own nose. I see
what's happening. But if you can say ten years ago,
(43:44):
if I smoked weed when I was a teenager, I
would have said, no, I don't, and I did. Guess what,
that fucked up the study. So like, ok the numbers
are high, but they've been high. So like, no, we
need to translating. You're you're so ridiculous. Yes, you you
actually think that the numbers of marijuana use aren't higher. Now, like,
do you live in society and go outside. I just
(44:06):
said they're higher. I just said, but they have always
been high. It's not like the people literally they have
literally never been anywhere near where they're at right now. Okay,
but you're acting like nobody in the world smoked weed
until they made it. No I didn't. I just said
that it had significantly increased since it got legal. I
said that, Okay five times. Let's wrap this up because
the bottom line is, obviously it's dangerous to smoke or
(44:29):
use any marijuana products like it is with any other
recreational drug and most pharmaceuticals when you're pregnant. So you
need to do your own research and not expect that
the government is telling you something is safe. Like, that's
idiotic to just believe that at face value because something
is legal but it's safe. It's idiotic.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
But it's the psychology of people. Okay, just trust me,
Like I'm telling you right now, if they said tomorrow
that heroin was legal, I guarantee you that the numbers
would double. I'm telling you right now. I don't think
anybody doing heroin is worried about it. If it's legal or
not they want. I'm telling you, though, if the government
says that it's considered to be a recreational drug that's safe,
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more people will start using it.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Okay, sure, but at the end of the day, it's
still your responsibility to know it's safe to put in you.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Of course, it's everybody's responsibility. But I'm just putting it
out there that that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
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