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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about a lizard who was found eating
a newborn baby, a mom who helped her son plan
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a school attack, ten inmates that escape through a prison toilet,
a veterinarian who was found dead after a viral video
was leaked of him kicking a horse, and an accidental
injection of a chemical during an epidoral procedure. All that
more on today's episode. Let's get started. This is like
crazy story episode. Let's get started with this lizard story.
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I mean, every episode has crazy stories, but this is
just like outrageous. First, we have a monitor lizard was
spotted eating a newborn baby in Thailand. I don't know
that they really know how the newborn baby got there.
They think that maybe a mom had it and it
was abandoned, and they don't know if it was born
like stillborn or if it was born alive. So they're
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currently testing the pieces of the newborn baby. Yes, pieces,
because that's what this monitor lizard was doing to this baby.
I guess when we think of lizards in this country,
they're not. They're not like that. Well when I think
of lizards here, they're they're smaller, right, or like maybe
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you have like a little iguana thing now, like when
we were in Florida, Like some of them are the
size of a cat. This one was six and a
half feet long, so pretty big. Yeah, this is a
really disturbing story upon somebody, you know, somebody came upon
the scene and thought that the lizard was eating a fish,
realized what was going on. They don't know where the
baby came from, like you were saying, They don't know
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if it was stillborn or abandoned or what was going on,
but certainly a disturbing scene, they're saying. Monitor lizards typically
live in canal, swamp, sewers and ponds in Thailand. They
mostly feed on fish, snakes, frogs, or scraps of food
left by humans. Obviously the lizard doesn't know the difference
between those things and the little baby. But they're typically
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only aggressive when threatened, and they have a mildly venomous
bite sometimes that could carry harmful bacteria. So there's people
that have the miss pets on Instagram. Well, there's lots
of people that have pets I mean, did you not
watch Tiger King. Nobody should have pets like that. That
guy in the story we talked about last week shouldn't
have had a kangaroo in South Carolina. Yeah, but that
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was a zoo. I don't think that was just like
I thought that was like a petting zoo. Yeah, but
it's like, what is a petting zoo? Isn't it somebody's
pets that are just like in an environment where they
charge for people to come see that. I don't know,
not all the time, I don't think, but whatever really
fucked up. Yeah, So they're looking at the pieces of
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the baby now to determine first if it was like
maybe if they could do DNA and see who the
baby belongs to, but also was the baby alive before
this lizard started ripping it to pieces or if not,
because if the baby was alive, then they're going to
be looking for the mother to press charges against her.
Clearly they should do that, because that's I mean, it's
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already messed up to if you want to have a
stillborn that's fine, but like to leave a live baby
laying in the middle of wherever that that happened, that
you should go to jail for that for the rest
of your life. Actually, no, I agree with you that
she should definitely go to jail. Let's move on to
this next story about this thirty three year old mother
in Texas who was arrested after allegedly buying ammunition and
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tactical gear for her thirteen year old sons planned mass
casualty attack at his middle school. I can't I can't
stand hearing stories like this, and this is I mean,
obviously part of the problem is the parents. You never
do you ever see these mass shooters that have a
normal family life. No, I mean this it all starts
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with the adults, right, Yeah. But the more information about
this case in particular, you're like, what was going on here?
And this was like a reward system for him babysitting
his younger siblings? Was her buying him these things? Look
at the mother, Okay, she's mentally unstable. You could just
tell by the way she looks. She has like she
just doesn't look like she's all there. So that's I'll
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just judge her on that because because I can. What
is really disturbing about this story is that it appears
that this kid has been doing stuff over the past
couple of months that have been very alarming, and I
don't understand why he kept being allowed to be in
the general public and going to school. Well, yeah, so
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the first offense was back in January. So he made
a map of the school labeled quote suicide route and
then put the name of the school next to a
drawling of a rifle. So obviously that's extremely concerning. Then
he was contacted by that that to me, right, there
is it. That's it, You're at that's it. And it
seems like he was interviewed by officials at that time
and he expressed interest in previous mass shooting, So like,
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why are stopping it? There? See? This is what I
don't like, because like, how do you know this shit's
not happening at your kid's school? Do you think that
any parent they say the name of the school, so
any single kid that was going to that school, do
you think any of the parents knew that any of
this was going on? No, you send your kid to
school every day and there was a kid that was
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doing this stuff and you didn't even know about it.
That's what's scary, Like why are they trying to protect
a kid and like brush it under the rug, like,
what is the gain? I mean, I had a situation
in my middle school slash high school where we had
one kid that was always doing really scary things like
this and always saying really scary things and obviously nothing happened,
but he would never get in trouble for anything. And
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then I'll never forget my friend drew a picture of
a cemetery and he got suspended for two days. And
I'm like, you have this other kid in the classes
threatening to kill people and nothing's happening to him, And
then you have a kid that's just doing a drawling
of a grape like a tombstone, and that kid's getting suspended.
It was ridiculous. And that's exactly what I see going
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on in this. You know, people blow it off. They
were like, oh, well, we don't know, he didn't mean
it like that. This is really disturbing that a thirteen
year old is expressing such interest in mass shootings. Yeah,
and when I mean when you have a map drawn
out that says suicide list or whatever, it's at like no,
So then the kid goes and I guess he was
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suspended because of that, or he got suspended later back
in I don't think he got suspended because of that.
That wasn't quite clear in the article. But in April
he was on a school computer and searched a twenty
nineteen christ Church Moss shooting in New Zealand which killed
fifty one people. So he gets suspended that day, tries
to kill himself with a razor and ends up needing
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one hundred stitches from this suicide attempt after getting suspended.
So just going forward, then he's staying with his grandmom
on and off all this time, and she ended up
calling the police on him after he told her he
was going to be famous, and she found all this
weaponry in his bedroom. Yeah, apparently he was hitting a
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live bullet with a hammer. And then this is when
she stumbled across all of this stuff. GUNSMO told them
all about the mom buying him all of this stuff, right,
so she calls the cop, like, I guess this was
the day he was This the day he was planning
on doing it. He told his grandmam he was going
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to be famous before getting picked up by his mom
and taken to school. And then the grandmam found all
this stuff. There was an ied two that had the
words Brenton Tarott written on it, which was a reference
to the shooter of the two thousand and nine Mosk attack. Right,
And I'm called the cops and I guess was he
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planning on doing it at school that day? Well? I
don't think that day, because wouldn't he have brought the
stuff with them? I mean she went in his bedroom
and found all these magazines of live ammunition, all the
tactical gear, the ied, So he was clearly planning on
doing it soon. Yeah, And he was wearing some weird
shit to school, like a tactical best or something like
that when they picked them up at school, which I
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don't think you're allowed to wear stuff like that to
public school, even if you're just like trying to do
it for fashion reasons. Right, Like they're very crazy about
stuff like that. They were fifteen years ago when I
was in high school? Did have to be today? Could
you imagine what a twisted mother you are that your
child's talking about wanting to kill himself and like you're like,
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you know what, that's a good idea. I'm going to
help you. Like obviously, this is this is what's wrong
with this kid. It's just like I don't want my
kid going to school with people like that that raised
their children like that, And do you know what's wrong
with the system. She's out right now. She was able
to get out so want a bond of seventy five
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thousand dollars and got out. Why I don't know. I mean,
this is the thing because so when I listened, I
listened to like a New Jersey radio station every morning,
and they've been I don't know if this is happening
everywhere in the country or just specifically to New Jersey,
but there's this whole entire thing that's happening now around
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here where all of these kids, like four hundred kids
are getting together through social media and like showing up
at places and causing like havoc. So it's getting to
the point where we have parades and like picnic days
and all these things around the state that everything's getting
canceled because police forces are scared they're not going to
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be able to handle when things like this happen, and
then they don't want people to get hurt and get killed.
And the debate on the radio recently has been like,
like why aren't the parents getting in trouble for this,
Like their kids are showing up and like ruining events
for everyone else, and and and getting in fights. And
it just happened in New Jersey this weekend that like
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four hundred kids showed up at a mall and like
caused it just complete. It's not like back in the day,
like when we used to hang out at the mall.
They're like going there to intentionally start trouble and like
their kids so they don't really get in trouble. But like,
why who's watching these kids? Like that's the thing, and
and there's all this thing like maybe we should start
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punishing the parents when their kids misbehave. It needs to
start happening, because the only way that you're really going
to reel this in is is to for the adults
to get in trouble and then realize that, hey, like
maybe I need to start I mean, there's a big
difference between kids showing up at a mall and the
parents not really paying attention to them versus what's happening
in this case. But no, she is. She is equally,
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if not more responsible. So he's getting held in the
juvenile detention center. Why is she not getting held in
I don't understand why Bond's even on the table for
something like this. They had all of the materials to
execute the attack. It wasn't like he just wrote this
manifesto and they didn't find anything else that he was
planning on taking it out, and she single handedly provided
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him with those materials. And like, so if he's in
middle school, he's somewhere between sixth and eighth grade, he's thirteen,
he's thirteen years old, Like he's he's still in like
little kid territory. He's in seventh grade. Probably, I don't
understand why she's not even in trouble with just like
child abuse really like that this is neglect, child abuse, whatever.
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I just don't. I don't understand what goes on anymore.
I really don't. I don't either, because I don't see
how this is acceptable, Like how is she not a
harmed to society? She was like literally giving this child supplies.
And also so he's writing he has attempted to take
his life before, he's writing suicide route on this map.
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So clearly, if in my mind, if he's going to
execute this mass casualty event, then he's going to be
taking his life at the end of it. Right, So
you want to provide your child at that I think,
I think is very bizarre, Like get them the help
they need, and then what's up with the younger kids,
Like are they being cared for by somebody else? Thank
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god this grandmother called the police, because a lot of
times family members are aware these things are going on
and they don't do anything about it. It's really disturbing,
it is, and it's so scary because you know your
kids go I mean, this is what's scary to me,
because it's like this kid is my is Lilian's age,
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and you know she's friends with kids at school, and
you're like, what the hell is going on in people's
houses that they just they're talking Like I feel like,
as a parent that sends your kids to school, you
want to know if stuff like this is happening. But
I know, I know it doesn't. Like the old school
we went to, I heard some shit about some stories
that were happening that like just from random people who
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knew that they they were and it was things that
I was like, yeah, I think every parent wants to
know that this is happening with this teacher or this
student that yet kicked out. Whose were the events that
like you're not even knowing as a parent. Yes, it's
just like it's just not it's not cool, Like because
if I found out that my kid was going to
school with this kid, I'd be like, if that kid
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isn't gone, I'm not sending my kid to school there anymore.
I wouldn't want my kid around a kid like that.
It's so it's it's terrifying. I mean, I would not
even be comfortable sending my child back to that school
knowing that they knew all of this and weren't really
doing anything to prevent it. Another thing too, that's just
like just because I know so many kids, both boys
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and girls, that are this age that I'm around a
lot because my kids hang out with their friends. It's
just like these kids are watching YouTube videos and like
dancing the stupid songs and making fun of things and
jumping around and having a good time and playing basketball
and going in the pool. Like these kids, these children
don't even know anything about this stuff. They don't know
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about like mass shootings to look up this stuff. It's
just like it's really sad that a thirteen year old
child is even interested in this and thinking about suicide. Really,
it's a sad situation. And the mother should take the
brunt of the trouble for it. No, that exactly. I
don't think she should be walking free at all right now,
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speaking of other people walking free, last week at a
jail in New Orleans, ten inmates escaped from prison, and
only four of them have been caught so far. Really,
the best part of this story is that they escape
through the toilet and then over top of the toilet
they wrote too easy Lol. Yeah, Like they not only
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had enough to say I've left a message, They not
only had enough time for ten full sized adult men
to get out of the jail, they had time to
write a message like haha, afew this it's such a
clown show. It's like a legit clown show. Like and
when you watch the press conferences, you're like, this is
a frickin' circus. Like they they don't think that there's
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any way they could have got out without the help
of someone in there, which are just like that, that's
totally not true. There could be ways. I mean, this
is the problem because when you're when you're in jail
and you're bored, and you have lots of hours and
lots of people with brains that get put together, they
get very creative. So yes, we've seen that with prison
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escapes before. I think that the most best part of
it to me is that they apparently escaped at like
midnight and they didn't even know that they were missing.
Until the morning, so these people had hours and hours
of a head start before anybody even realized something was wrong. Well,
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I think this is the problem we see in a
lot of these cases, as they're not doing roll call
like when they should be, or the night guards aren't
watching monitors or anything. So that's how these things could
easily happen. I agree with you, like, I don't think
they necessarily needed the help of somebody working on the inside.
It seemed like the locks or the doors were like
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faulty that were on the tracks that locked their jail cell,
so they were all able to get out that way.
And then you have, you know, the strength of ten
adult men that are probably working out all the time
because they else young and buff, they're nineteen to forty
two years old, they probably like are all strong as hell.
Now these guys are like, they're not raw. They have
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serious charges including aggravated assault, domestic abuse, and murder, and
they're really sad. Part of it is that so these
people were just unaccounted for for hours. But then the family,
some of the family members found out about this and
they're that they that these people are gonna go after them,
so they have to go into hiding like this could
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be so so bad, especially because they had no account
of them for all that time. Like the of course,
like if you get out of jail, and especially if
you escape, you're just like f it, dude, I have
nothing to lose at this point, really, because if you
get caught, you're gonna go to jail for such a
long time, or if you're already in jail, for the
rest of your life anyway, Like these people are dangerous
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as hell, and what if they go after somebody that
got them in jail in the first place, You're you're
not protecting the public at all, Like it's so or
just like random people, because there's gonna be a point
where they start getting hungry and they need transportation and
this and that. Well, like they have nothing, So how
do you think they're gonna get it. They're gonna rob people,
they're gonna kill people, they're gonna steal things. Like remember
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last year when the guy escaped around here and he
was like breaking into people's houses and doing like the
light switch signals and stuff. But he was breaking into
people's houses and taking food and stuff. And they're like, oh,
look out for people people in prison clothes, like do
you think they're not going to go in somebody's house again,
did you ever watched the fugitive dude? Come on, he
had he had hair dye, shaved his face and like
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looked like a completely different person within a day. Like,
come on, it's such a joke. So, according to CBS,
three jail staff members have been suspended without pay pending
the outcome of the internal investigation. I mean, clearly there's
many problems going on. Listen, and this is this is
the same typical bullshit they do. They they like fire
or suspend people that work there when the ship rises
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to the top, and it's like all those people do
in the press conference is the reason that that this
problem even happened. But are they gonna get in trouble?
Of course they won't. They'll probably get promoted or something
like one of these people that's escaped right now goes
and kills another person because they escaped. So these people
just get off scott free. Well, yeah, there's a lot
of them, right, What is it six of them are
still at large? Yes, yeah, that's that's a big deal.
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Six people. It's been a couple of days. Yeah, it's
not good, dude. If they left at if they escaped
at midnight and what there was solid eight hours, Like
if I left my house right now and drove eight hours,
I could get to freaking Georgia. Like it's far you
if you could somehow like hitch a ride or take
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a ball, I don't know what you do, but like
they can get far. But the worst part is is
that they're surveillance video showing these guys like walking through
the French Quarter and shit, like they don't even they're brazen.
They're just like I don't even care, like because nobody
even knew they were missing eight solid hours, like they
could be anywhere right now. They could literally be anywhere.
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It's not like they realized it. You know. Let's say,
when let's go back to the fugitive because I think
that that's based on a true story. Right wait, I
don't know. I think I don't think it is. Well,
whatever you tell what you're saying it, I'll will get up.
Let's pretend it is there was like a fight on
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the bus that was transporting the the people, and I
believe that they knew, like fairly right away that there
was a situation that there were escaped prisoners and that's
when Tommy Lee Jones shows up and everything, and the
guy from Goonies what's his name? You know, the actor anyway,
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one of the Fertelli brothers. Okay, do you know who
I'm talking about? Anyway. The whole point is is that
they were they were able to like maybe get on
top of it sooner because they knew, like in a
timely period that there were escaped people from the from custody.
Whereas here it's just like they they they I'm telling you, like,
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they might not ever find these dudes. Who knows unless
people because listen, they're offering a twenty thousand dollars reward
for their arrest of the inmate. Like twenty thousand dollars
is just kind of not that much money for people
to like want to get involved in that bullshit. No,
because they're they gonna like have your name that turned
them in on the records and then they can come
back exactly. Like it's just kind of like if you
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were like, oh, I'm off for like twenty thousand dollars,
is is not like I'll take it if someone wants
to give it to me right now, but it's not
life changing money like these people you can't even get
a car for twenty thousand dollars. You can't like pay
off your house or anything, like give the people some
kind of incentive to turn the people in, Like twenty
thousand dollars is like it's also insulting to the people
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of New Orleans, like, oh, that's all that their safety
is worth. Like I feel a little uneasy if I
lived around there right now, just knowing that these people
were just like I mean, like, listen, chances are there
nowhere near there, but they could be you never know,
and like, oh, that's it, You're gonna give someone twenty
thousand dollars, like thanks. So The Fugitive is a fictional story. However,
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it is very loosely based off of Sam Shepherd, who
is convicted of killing his wife and was later exonerated.
All right, so, I guess there was this vat I
don't even know how this video went viral, but there
was this vetin area that was taking care of a
horse and then all of a sudden, on the video,
he started kicking the horse and the video went viral,
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and obviously like he was not dealing with the response
very well. He later went on Facebook and apologized and
was or was like not really apologizing, but he was
defending why he was doing that, which everybody's just like, yeah, dude,
like no, we saw the video. I don't, but there's
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no person in the world that's just kicking a horse
for any kind of reason. And then, you know, just
because of the pushback he was getting, he disappeared one day. Yeah,
so he ended up disappearing shortly after issuing the Facebook apology.
He was found dead two weeks later. His car had
been found abandoned with his wallet, keys, and phone near
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the water's edge of Lake Mead, and then they searched
it for a while ended up finding his body. It
turns out he died by suicide after injecting himself with
the euthanasia drug. Yeah, so he injected himself with pentobarbital,
which is also something that would be used for a
lethal injection, let's say. But they said that he died
from drowning, So I don't know if he injected himself
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and then he had went into the water or did
it at the same time or whatever. But they were
saying that they had to use dental records to identify
his body, so he was probably decomposed bloated parsonally skeletonized
maybe like depending how long he was in there, because
it could get pretty hot there. So so yeah, that's
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that's I mean, that makes me think that he understands
that he definitely did that and was guilty. Like I
don't know, I don't think anybody was misunderstanding what he
was doing and what's going on there that you're kicking
a horse in the head that it needs treatment from
your abuse when it's trying to when you're supposed to
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be treating the horse. I mean, this is obviously the
guy's sick, like he's supposed to be helping animals and
he's hurting them. But you hear this from time to
time of doctors hurting patients and you know, going into
a specific thing like you want to take care of
kids and help kids, and then you hurt the kids
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like it happens. And sometimes when there's people that do
stuff like this, these kinds of fields are like easy
for them to have access to do things like this. Whatever. Uh,
it just it's sad for people that have animals that
were his patients and thinking about your animal getting beat
like that is upsetting, you know. All Right, So our
last story of today comes out of Morocco, and it
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is an insane story of a thirty two year old
woman who went into a hospital in full term labor
and was scheduled for an epidural in preparation to have
vaginal delivery. And somehow when they were put they put
the epidural catheter into this woman's back. Instead of putting
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saline in, which is what they were intending to put in,
they grabbed a chemical called chlorohexidine, which is an aniseptic,
and injected that into her epidoral space of her back.
I mean, how does this even happen? So that wouldn't happen,
I don't want to say wouldn't. The chance of that
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happening in America at least is less likely because number one,
they've said they don't even want to use chlorohexidine on
people that are getting the needle in the back because
they don't know what that chemp, just the needle passing
through that chemical. They don't know what that chemical could
do to the spinal cord into the brain. Right now,
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that's something you would use to clean the skin before
you would do some kind of a procedure. The reason
they don't know what this chemical does to the brain
is because there's never cases of people injecting it into
somebody like this by accident. So maybe this could be
as part of the case study of what happens. But
this was three millileaters injected, which is a lot. Okay,
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so in comparison to like a needle passing through a
drop of it. You know, So in America at least,
that chemical chlorohaxtegn shouldn't even be anywhere near this setup.
And in America all of this stuff is supposed to
be labeled and so things like this don't happen. I
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don't know if you remember we talked about a story
months ago about a woman who was getting one of
those those testing done for fatill Yeah, I remember, trust me,
because that was like horrific thinking about that happiding. Yeah,
And instead they injected this acetic acid chemical that's used
to do cervical biopsies or I forget exactly what it was,
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but it's a similar thing of like grabbing the wrong
thing by accident. And of course this has happened over
time the history of medicine, which is why they just
come up with new things all the time to just
make that not happen with color coded things and this
and that. So in this particular hospital in Morocco, they
said that they had this alien in a container labeled,
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and then they had the chlorohexidine and a container labeled.
But then they poured them into cups like dixie cup
type things or sterile little disposable cups. And that's when
the doctor got confused because both of the liquids were
clear and used the wrong one. That this is what
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it says. It literally says this in the article. I mean,
this is ridiculous, and this is this is a medical
This isn't like a newspaper article. This is a case
report study, so it is it is ridiculous. But it's
also good to hear this because then you're like, when
people are complaining about how bad medicine is here and stuff,
you're just like, not, it's kind of bad in other
places too, So just like relax, all right. So the
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patient gets this inject into her back and rapidly develops
progressive paraplegia so she can't move her arms and was
transferred to the ICU. Exhibited severe muscle reduction in muscle
strength and parises. Is just getting like the pins and
easels feeling, and then was getting severe persistent headaches. It
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developed acute respiratory distress, which led her to having an
emergency intubation just so she could breathe. Her imaging showed
that she was developing fluid on her brain called hydrocephalus,
and luckily they treated her with steroids and everything like that,
and within seventy two hours she started to return to normal. Now,
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the other really interesting part of this case report is
that if you remember at the beginning of the story,
the whole reason that this happened is because this woman
was in labor and getting an epidoral. So they mentioned
nothing in the article about like what happened with the childbirth. Yeah,
so I have no idea because they said that she
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was back to normal and fine in seventy two hours,
while if she went in in labor, then what happened
during all that Because it's because you would normally get
the epidural before you give birth, So if she got
the wrong thing injected and immediately started having all of
these problems, I don't understand where the childbirth fit in
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and they say nothing about it. I read it three times,
like I just can't find any information about it. I
don't understand. So that leaves a whole like that's what
I want to know, Like, well, was the baby fine?
Did the baby survive? I have real idea. Would it
even be safe to have a sea section in a
case like that or push naturally if they have to
attend to the mother. I think that's a really important detail.
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They know that. I don't know that they would she
would have been able to give childbirth if she was
having if she was paralyzed from the waiste up at
temporarily at least and had no muscle strength. Oh my god.
But I just like, I literally don't even know what happened.
It's so weird. So I just wanted to tell you
guys this because it's it's just a crazy case. And
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and you hear about this from time to time. It's
usually in other countries that something like that happens, but
I mean it, I'm sure it happens here too, that
they give You've heard about this before, that like they
give the wrong dosage of medications. It was happening with
I forget what it was. It might have been insulin
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or something years ago that the labels for the infant
in children's insulin was similar to the adult ones, and
they were giving too much to the babies or something
like that, Like it was something because it was one
was like point oh five and one was point oh five,
or it was just like very confusing and they were
the same color or something. So they're always trying to
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do things to prevent this from happening, because like when
you're when you work in medicine, things could get crazy
sometimes and and mistakes happen because humans are involved. So
you just want to make sure that there's no way
for those mix ups to happen. And you can't even
say that with like you you worked at a restaurant,
like remember that time I got that I'll never forget
(32:10):
that at that really good restaurant with a good reputation
in Philadelphia that like put dish so soap instead of
honey on top of my ice cream. Well, this is
what slip slip ups happen. This soap is supposed to
be like a fluorescent color, so there is no room
to mix them up. Because what happened is you got
like a palm all of equivalent of soap on your
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dessert when you when they thought it was honey, But
like I'm saying, that's totally unacceptable because at the bar,
all of our soap was hot pink, like it could
not be mixed up with anything. It's the color of pepto,
Like you can't you can't confuse it with anything. Yeah,
so I and they and there's the same exact thing
happens in a lab that there's certain places we don't
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store things together. Everything's supposed to be labeled and dated
when it was opened and things like that. And I mean,
like when you have humans involved with anything, something like
this is gonna happen. But the whole entire time, I
was just like, oh my god, like this this is
like medical malpractice on the hugest level, the hugest lawsuit ever.
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And like I don't know if that kind of stuff
goes down in Morocco like that, but this, if any
case exists, it's this one. Oh totally. Well, Thank you
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about a lizard who was found eating
a newborn baby, a mom who helped her son plan
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a school attack, ten inmates that escape through a prison toilet,
a veterinarian who was found dead after a viral video
was leaked of him kicking a horse, and an accidental
injection of a chemical during an epidoral procedure. All that
more on today's episode. Let's get started. This is like
crazy story episode. Let's get started with this lizard story.
(00:54):
I mean, every episode has crazy stories, but this is
just like outrageous. First, we have a monitor lizard was
spotted eating a newborn baby in Thailand. I don't know
that they really know how the newborn baby got there.
They think that maybe a mom had it and it
was abandoned, and they don't know if it was born
like stillborn or if it was born alive. So they're
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currently testing the pieces of the newborn baby. Yes, pieces,
because that's what this monitor lizard was doing to this baby.
I guess when we think of lizards in this country,
they're not. They're not like that. Well when I think
of lizards here, they're they're smaller, right, or like maybe
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you have like a little iguana thing now, like when
we were in Florida, Like some of them are the
size of a cat. This one was six and a
half feet long, so pretty big. Yeah, this is a
really disturbing story upon somebody, you know, somebody came upon
the scene and thought that the lizard was eating a fish,
realized what was going on. They don't know where the
baby came from, like you were saying, They don't know
(01:58):
if it was stillborn or abandoned or what was going on,
but certainly a disturbing scene, they're saying. Monitor lizards typically
live in canal, swamp, sewers and ponds in Thailand. They
mostly feed on fish, snakes, frogs, or scraps of food
left by humans. Obviously the lizard doesn't know the difference
between those things and the little baby. But they're typically
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only aggressive when threatened, and they have a mildly venomous
bite sometimes that could carry harmful bacteria. So there's people
that have the miss pets on Instagram. Well, there's lots
of people that have pets I mean, did you not
watch Tiger King. Nobody should have pets like that. That
guy in the story we talked about last week shouldn't
have had a kangaroo in South Carolina. Yeah, but that
(02:43):
was a zoo. I don't think that was just like
I thought that was like a petting zoo. Yeah, but
it's like, what is a petting zoo? Isn't it somebody's
pets that are just like in an environment where they
charge for people to come see that. I don't know,
not all the time, I don't think, but whatever really
fucked up. Yeah, So they're looking at the pieces of
(03:04):
the baby now to determine first if it was like
maybe if they could do DNA and see who the
baby belongs to, but also was the baby alive before
this lizard started ripping it to pieces or if not,
because if the baby was alive, then they're going to
be looking for the mother to press charges against her.
Clearly they should do that, because that's I mean, it's
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already messed up to if you want to have a
stillborn that's fine, but like to leave a live baby
laying in the middle of wherever that that happened, that
you should go to jail for that for the rest
of your life. Actually, no, I agree with you that
she should definitely go to jail. Let's move on to
this next story about this thirty three year old mother
in Texas who was arrested after allegedly buying ammunition and
(03:49):
tactical gear for her thirteen year old sons planned mass
casualty attack at his middle school. I can't I can't
stand hearing stories like this, and this is I mean,
obviously part of the problem is the parents. You never
do you ever see these mass shooters that have a
normal family life. No, I mean this it all starts
(04:10):
with the adults, right, Yeah. But the more information about
this case in particular, you're like, what was going on here?
And this was like a reward system for him babysitting
his younger siblings? Was her buying him these things? Look
at the mother, Okay, she's mentally unstable. You could just
tell by the way she looks. She has like she
just doesn't look like she's all there. So that's I'll
(04:30):
just judge her on that because because I can. What
is really disturbing about this story is that it appears
that this kid has been doing stuff over the past
couple of months that have been very alarming, and I
don't understand why he kept being allowed to be in
the general public and going to school. Well, yeah, so
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the first offense was back in January. So he made
a map of the school labeled quote suicide route and
then put the name of the school next to a
drawling of a rifle. So obviously that's extremely concerning. Then
he was contacted by that that to me, right, there
is it. That's it, You're at that's it. And it
seems like he was interviewed by officials at that time
and he expressed interest in previous mass shooting, So like,
(05:14):
why are stopping it? There? See? This is what I
don't like, because like, how do you know this shit's
not happening at your kid's school? Do you think that
any parent they say the name of the school, so
any single kid that was going to that school, do
you think any of the parents knew that any of
this was going on? No, you send your kid to
school every day and there was a kid that was
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doing this stuff and you didn't even know about it.
That's what's scary, Like why are they trying to protect
a kid and like brush it under the rug, like,
what is the gain? I mean, I had a situation
in my middle school slash high school where we had
one kid that was always doing really scary things like
this and always saying really scary things and obviously nothing happened,
but he would never get in trouble for anything. And
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then I'll never forget my friend drew a picture of
a cemetery and he got suspended for two days. And
I'm like, you have this other kid in the classes
threatening to kill people and nothing's happening to him, And
then you have a kid that's just doing a drawling
of a grape like a tombstone, and that kid's getting suspended.
It was ridiculous. And that's exactly what I see going
(06:19):
on in this. You know, people blow it off. They
were like, oh, well, we don't know, he didn't mean
it like that. This is really disturbing that a thirteen
year old is expressing such interest in mass shootings. Yeah,
and when I mean when you have a map drawn
out that says suicide list or whatever, it's at like no,
So then the kid goes and I guess he was
(06:40):
suspended because of that, or he got suspended later back
in I don't think he got suspended because of that.
That wasn't quite clear in the article. But in April
he was on a school computer and searched a twenty
nineteen christ Church Moss shooting in New Zealand which killed
fifty one people. So he gets suspended that day, tries
to kill himself with a razor and ends up needing
(07:02):
one hundred stitches from this suicide attempt after getting suspended.
So just going forward, then he's staying with his grandmom
on and off all this time, and she ended up
calling the police on him after he told her he
was going to be famous, and she found all this
weaponry in his bedroom. Yeah, apparently he was hitting a
(07:22):
live bullet with a hammer. And then this is when
she stumbled across all of this stuff. GUNSMO told them
all about the mom buying him all of this stuff, right,
so she calls the cop, like, I guess this was
the day he was This the day he was planning
on doing it. He told his grandmam he was going
(07:43):
to be famous before getting picked up by his mom
and taken to school. And then the grandmam found all
this stuff. There was an ied two that had the
words Brenton Tarott written on it, which was a reference
to the shooter of the two thousand and nine Mosk attack. Right,
And I'm called the cops and I guess was he
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planning on doing it at school that day? Well? I
don't think that day, because wouldn't he have brought the
stuff with them? I mean she went in his bedroom
and found all these magazines of live ammunition, all the
tactical gear, the ied, So he was clearly planning on
doing it soon. Yeah, And he was wearing some weird
shit to school, like a tactical best or something like
that when they picked them up at school, which I
(08:24):
don't think you're allowed to wear stuff like that to
public school, even if you're just like trying to do
it for fashion reasons. Right, Like they're very crazy about
stuff like that. They were fifteen years ago when I
was in high school? Did have to be today? Could
you imagine what a twisted mother you are that your
child's talking about wanting to kill himself and like you're like,
(08:45):
you know what, that's a good idea. I'm going to
help you. Like obviously, this is this is what's wrong
with this kid. It's just like I don't want my
kid going to school with people like that that raised
their children like that, And do you know what's wrong
with the system. She's out right now. She was able
to get out so want a bond of seventy five
(09:06):
thousand dollars and got out. Why I don't know. I mean,
this is the thing because so when I listened, I
listened to like a New Jersey radio station every morning,
and they've been I don't know if this is happening
everywhere in the country or just specifically to New Jersey,
but there's this whole entire thing that's happening now around
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here where all of these kids, like four hundred kids
are getting together through social media and like showing up
at places and causing like havoc. So it's getting to
the point where we have parades and like picnic days
and all these things around the state that everything's getting
canceled because police forces are scared they're not going to
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be able to handle when things like this happen, and
then they don't want people to get hurt and get killed.
And the debate on the radio recently has been like,
like why aren't the parents getting in trouble for this,
Like their kids are showing up and like ruining events
for everyone else, and and and getting in fights. And
it just happened in New Jersey this weekend that like
(10:10):
four hundred kids showed up at a mall and like
caused it just complete. It's not like back in the day,
like when we used to hang out at the mall.
They're like going there to intentionally start trouble and like
their kids so they don't really get in trouble. But like,
why who's watching these kids? Like that's the thing, and
and there's all this thing like maybe we should start
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punishing the parents when their kids misbehave. It needs to
start happening, because the only way that you're really going
to reel this in is is to for the adults
to get in trouble and then realize that, hey, like
maybe I need to start I mean, there's a big
difference between kids showing up at a mall and the
parents not really paying attention to them versus what's happening
in this case. But no, she is. She is equally,
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if not more responsible. So he's getting held in the
juvenile detention center. Why is she not getting held in
I don't understand why Bond's even on the table for
something like this. They had all of the materials to
execute the attack. It wasn't like he just wrote this
manifesto and they didn't find anything else that he was
planning on taking it out, and she single handedly provided
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him with those materials. And like, so if he's in
middle school, he's somewhere between sixth and eighth grade, he's thirteen,
he's thirteen years old, Like he's he's still in like
little kid territory. He's in seventh grade. Probably, I don't
understand why she's not even in trouble with just like
child abuse really like that this is neglect, child abuse, whatever.
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I just don't. I don't understand what goes on anymore.
I really don't. I don't either, because I don't see
how this is acceptable, Like how is she not a
harmed to society? She was like literally giving this child supplies.
And also so he's writing he has attempted to take
his life before, he's writing suicide route on this map.
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So clearly, if in my mind, if he's going to
execute this mass casualty event, then he's going to be
taking his life at the end of it. Right, So
you want to provide your child at that I think,
I think is very bizarre, Like get them the help
they need, and then what's up with the younger kids,
Like are they being cared for by somebody else? Thank
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god this grandmother called the police, because a lot of
times family members are aware these things are going on
and they don't do anything about it. It's really disturbing,
it is, and it's so scary because you know your
kids go I mean, this is what's scary to me,
because it's like this kid is my is Lilian's age,
(12:43):
and you know she's friends with kids at school, and
you're like, what the hell is going on in people's
houses that they just they're talking Like I feel like,
as a parent that sends your kids to school, you
want to know if stuff like this is happening. But
I know, I know it doesn't. Like the old school
we went to, I heard some shit about some stories
that were happening that like just from random people who
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knew that they they were and it was things that
I was like, yeah, I think every parent wants to
know that this is happening with this teacher or this
student that yet kicked out. Whose were the events that
like you're not even knowing as a parent. Yes, it's
just like it's just not it's not cool, Like because
if I found out that my kid was going to
school with this kid, I'd be like, if that kid
(13:27):
isn't gone, I'm not sending my kid to school there anymore.
I wouldn't want my kid around a kid like that.
It's so it's it's terrifying. I mean, I would not
even be comfortable sending my child back to that school
knowing that they knew all of this and weren't really
doing anything to prevent it. Another thing too, that's just
like just because I know so many kids, both boys
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and girls, that are this age that I'm around a
lot because my kids hang out with their friends. It's
just like these kids are watching YouTube videos and like
dancing the stupid songs and making fun of things and
jumping around and having a good time and playing basketball
and going in the pool. Like these kids, these children
don't even know anything about this stuff. They don't know
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about like mass shootings to look up this stuff. It's
just like it's really sad that a thirteen year old
child is even interested in this and thinking about suicide. Really,
it's a sad situation. And the mother should take the
brunt of the trouble for it. No, that exactly. I
don't think she should be walking free at all right now,
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speaking of other people walking free, last week at a
jail in New Orleans, ten inmates escaped from prison, and
only four of them have been caught so far. Really,
the best part of this story is that they escape
through the toilet and then over top of the toilet
they wrote too easy Lol. Yeah, Like they not only
(15:58):
had enough to say I've left a message, They not
only had enough time for ten full sized adult men
to get out of the jail, they had time to
write a message like haha, afew this it's such a
clown show. It's like a legit clown show. Like and
when you watch the press conferences, you're like, this is
a frickin' circus. Like they they don't think that there's
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any way they could have got out without the help
of someone in there, which are just like that, that's
totally not true. There could be ways. I mean, this
is the problem because when you're when you're in jail
and you're bored, and you have lots of hours and
lots of people with brains that get put together, they
get very creative. So yes, we've seen that with prison
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escapes before. I think that the most best part of
it to me is that they apparently escaped at like
midnight and they didn't even know that they were missing.
Until the morning, so these people had hours and hours
of a head start before anybody even realized something was wrong. Well,
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I think this is the problem we see in a
lot of these cases, as they're not doing roll call
like when they should be, or the night guards aren't
watching monitors or anything. So that's how these things could
easily happen. I agree with you, like, I don't think
they necessarily needed the help of somebody working on the inside.
It seemed like the locks or the doors were like
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faulty that were on the tracks that locked their jail cell,
so they were all able to get out that way.
And then you have, you know, the strength of ten
adult men that are probably working out all the time
because they else young and buff, they're nineteen to forty
two years old, they probably like are all strong as hell.
Now these guys are like, they're not raw. They have
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serious charges including aggravated assault, domestic abuse, and murder, and
they're really sad. Part of it is that so these
people were just unaccounted for for hours. But then the family,
some of the family members found out about this and
they're that they that these people are gonna go after them,
so they have to go into hiding like this could
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be so so bad, especially because they had no account
of them for all that time. Like the of course,
like if you get out of jail, and especially if
you escape, you're just like f it, dude, I have
nothing to lose at this point, really, because if you
get caught, you're gonna go to jail for such a
long time, or if you're already in jail, for the
rest of your life anyway, Like these people are dangerous
(18:27):
as hell, and what if they go after somebody that
got them in jail in the first place, You're you're
not protecting the public at all, Like it's so or
just like random people, because there's gonna be a point
where they start getting hungry and they need transportation and
this and that. Well, like they have nothing, So how
do you think they're gonna get it. They're gonna rob people,
they're gonna kill people, they're gonna steal things. Like remember
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last year when the guy escaped around here and he
was like breaking into people's houses and doing like the
light switch signals and stuff. But he was breaking into
people's houses and taking food and stuff. And they're like, oh,
look out for people people in prison clothes, like do
you think they're not going to go in somebody's house again,
did you ever watched the fugitive dude? Come on, he
had he had hair dye, shaved his face and like
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looked like a completely different person within a day. Like,
come on, it's such a joke. So, according to CBS,
three jail staff members have been suspended without pay pending
the outcome of the internal investigation. I mean, clearly there's
many problems going on. Listen, and this is this is
the same typical bullshit they do. They they like fire
or suspend people that work there when the ship rises
(19:30):
to the top, and it's like all those people do
in the press conference is the reason that that this
problem even happened. But are they gonna get in trouble?
Of course they won't. They'll probably get promoted or something
like one of these people that's escaped right now goes
and kills another person because they escaped. So these people
just get off scott free. Well, yeah, there's a lot
of them, right, What is it six of them are
still at large? Yes, yeah, that's that's a big deal.
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Six people. It's been a couple of days. Yeah, it's
not good, dude. If they left at if they escaped
at midnight and what there was solid eight hours, Like
if I left my house right now and drove eight hours,
I could get to freaking Georgia. Like it's far you
if you could somehow like hitch a ride or take
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a ball, I don't know what you do, but like
they can get far. But the worst part is is
that they're surveillance video showing these guys like walking through
the French Quarter and shit, like they don't even they're brazen.
They're just like I don't even care, like because nobody
even knew they were missing eight solid hours, like they
could be anywhere right now. They could literally be anywhere.
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It's not like they realized it. You know. Let's say,
when let's go back to the fugitive because I think
that that's based on a true story. Right wait, I
don't know. I think I don't think it is. Well,
whatever you tell what you're saying it, I'll will get up.
Let's pretend it is there was like a fight on
(20:57):
the bus that was transporting the the people, and I
believe that they knew, like fairly right away that there
was a situation that there were escaped prisoners and that's
when Tommy Lee Jones shows up and everything, and the
guy from Goonies what's his name? You know, the actor anyway,
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one of the Fertelli brothers. Okay, do you know who
I'm talking about? Anyway. The whole point is is that
they were they were able to like maybe get on
top of it sooner because they knew, like in a
timely period that there were escaped people from the from custody.
Whereas here it's just like they they they I'm telling you, like,
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they might not ever find these dudes. Who knows unless
people because listen, they're offering a twenty thousand dollars reward
for their arrest of the inmate. Like twenty thousand dollars
is just kind of not that much money for people
to like want to get involved in that bullshit. No,
because they're they gonna like have your name that turned
them in on the records and then they can come
back exactly. Like it's just kind of like if you
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were like, oh, I'm off for like twenty thousand dollars,
is is not like I'll take it if someone wants
to give it to me right now, but it's not
life changing money like these people you can't even get
a car for twenty thousand dollars. You can't like pay
off your house or anything, like give the people some
kind of incentive to turn the people in, Like twenty
thousand dollars is like it's also insulting to the people
(22:24):
of New Orleans, like, oh, that's all that their safety
is worth. Like I feel a little uneasy if I
lived around there right now, just knowing that these people
were just like I mean, like, listen, chances are there
nowhere near there, but they could be you never know,
and like, oh, that's it, You're gonna give someone twenty
thousand dollars, like thanks. So The Fugitive is a fictional story. However,
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it is very loosely based off of Sam Shepherd, who
is convicted of killing his wife and was later exonerated.
All right, so, I guess there was this vat I
don't even know how this video went viral, but there
was this vetin area that was taking care of a
horse and then all of a sudden, on the video,
he started kicking the horse and the video went viral,
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and obviously like he was not dealing with the response
very well. He later went on Facebook and apologized and
was or was like not really apologizing, but he was
defending why he was doing that, which everybody's just like, yeah, dude,
like no, we saw the video. I don't, but there's
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no person in the world that's just kicking a horse
for any kind of reason. And then, you know, just
because of the pushback he was getting, he disappeared one day. Yeah,
so he ended up disappearing shortly after issuing the Facebook apology.
He was found dead two weeks later. His car had
been found abandoned with his wallet, keys, and phone near
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the water's edge of Lake Mead, and then they searched
it for a while ended up finding his body. It
turns out he died by suicide after injecting himself with
the euthanasia drug. Yeah, so he injected himself with pentobarbital,
which is also something that would be used for a
lethal injection, let's say. But they said that he died
from drowning, So I don't know if he injected himself
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and then he had went into the water or did
it at the same time or whatever. But they were
saying that they had to use dental records to identify
his body, so he was probably decomposed bloated parsonally skeletonized
maybe like depending how long he was in there, because
it could get pretty hot there. So so yeah, that's
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that's I mean, that makes me think that he understands
that he definitely did that and was guilty. Like I
don't know, I don't think anybody was misunderstanding what he
was doing and what's going on there that you're kicking
a horse in the head that it needs treatment from
your abuse when it's trying to when you're supposed to
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be treating the horse. I mean, this is obviously the
guy's sick, like he's supposed to be helping animals and
he's hurting them. But you hear this from time to
time of doctors hurting patients and you know, going into
a specific thing like you want to take care of
kids and help kids, and then you hurt the kids
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like it happens. And sometimes when there's people that do
stuff like this, these kinds of fields are like easy
for them to have access to do things like this. Whatever. Uh,
it just it's sad for people that have animals that
were his patients and thinking about your animal getting beat
like that is upsetting, you know. All Right, So our
last story of today comes out of Morocco, and it
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is an insane story of a thirty two year old
woman who went into a hospital in full term labor
and was scheduled for an epidural in preparation to have
vaginal delivery. And somehow when they were put they put
the epidural catheter into this woman's back. Instead of putting
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saline in, which is what they were intending to put in,
they grabbed a chemical called chlorohexidine, which is an aniseptic,
and injected that into her epidoral space of her back.
I mean, how does this even happen? So that wouldn't happen,
I don't want to say wouldn't. The chance of that
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happening in America at least is less likely because number one,
they've said they don't even want to use chlorohexidine on
people that are getting the needle in the back because
they don't know what that chemp, just the needle passing
through that chemical. They don't know what that chemical could
do to the spinal cord into the brain. Right now,
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that's something you would use to clean the skin before
you would do some kind of a procedure. The reason
they don't know what this chemical does to the brain
is because there's never cases of people injecting it into
somebody like this by accident. So maybe this could be
as part of the case study of what happens. But
this was three millileaters injected, which is a lot. Okay,
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so in comparison to like a needle passing through a
drop of it. You know, So in America at least,
that chemical chlorohaxtegn shouldn't even be anywhere near this setup.
And in America all of this stuff is supposed to
be labeled and so things like this don't happen. I
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don't know if you remember we talked about a story
months ago about a woman who was getting one of
those those testing done for fatill Yeah, I remember, trust me,
because that was like horrific thinking about that happiding. Yeah,
And instead they injected this acetic acid chemical that's used
to do cervical biopsies or I forget exactly what it was,
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but it's a similar thing of like grabbing the wrong
thing by accident. And of course this has happened over
time the history of medicine, which is why they just
come up with new things all the time to just
make that not happen with color coded things and this
and that. So in this particular hospital in Morocco, they
said that they had this alien in a container labeled,
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and then they had the chlorohexidine and a container labeled.
But then they poured them into cups like dixie cup
type things or sterile little disposable cups. And that's when
the doctor got confused because both of the liquids were
clear and used the wrong one. That this is what
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it says. It literally says this in the article. I mean,
this is ridiculous, and this is this is a medical
This isn't like a newspaper article. This is a case
report study, so it is it is ridiculous. But it's
also good to hear this because then you're like, when
people are complaining about how bad medicine is here and stuff,
you're just like, not, it's kind of bad in other
places too, So just like relax, all right. So the
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patient gets this inject into her back and rapidly develops
progressive paraplegia so she can't move her arms and was
transferred to the ICU. Exhibited severe muscle reduction in muscle
strength and parises. Is just getting like the pins and
easels feeling, and then was getting severe persistent headaches. It
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developed acute respiratory distress, which led her to having an
emergency intubation just so she could breathe. Her imaging showed
that she was developing fluid on her brain called hydrocephalus,
and luckily they treated her with steroids and everything like that,
and within seventy two hours she started to return to normal. Now,
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the other really interesting part of this case report is
that if you remember at the beginning of the story,
the whole reason that this happened is because this woman
was in labor and getting an epidoral. So they mentioned
nothing in the article about like what happened with the childbirth. Yeah,
so I have no idea because they said that she
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was back to normal and fine in seventy two hours,
while if she went in in labor, then what happened
during all that Because it's because you would normally get
the epidural before you give birth, So if she got
the wrong thing injected and immediately started having all of
these problems, I don't understand where the childbirth fit in
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and they say nothing about it. I read it three times,
like I just can't find any information about it. I
don't understand. So that leaves a whole like that's what
I want to know, Like, well, was the baby fine?
Did the baby survive? I have real idea. Would it
even be safe to have a sea section in a
case like that or push naturally if they have to
attend to the mother. I think that's a really important detail.
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They know that. I don't know that they would she
would have been able to give childbirth if she was
having if she was paralyzed from the waiste up at
temporarily at least and had no muscle strength. Oh my god.
But I just like, I literally don't even know what happened.
It's so weird. So I just wanted to tell you
guys this because it's it's just a crazy case. And
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and you hear about this from time to time. It's
usually in other countries that something like that happens, but
I mean it, I'm sure it happens here too, that
they give You've heard about this before, that like they
give the wrong dosage of medications. It was happening with
I forget what it was. It might have been insulin
(31:28):
or something years ago that the labels for the infant
in children's insulin was similar to the adult ones, and
they were giving too much to the babies or something
like that, Like it was something because it was one
was like point oh five and one was point oh five,
or it was just like very confusing and they were
the same color or something. So they're always trying to
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do things to prevent this from happening, because like when
you're when you work in medicine, things could get crazy
sometimes and and mistakes happen because humans are involved. So
you just want to make sure that there's no way
for those mix ups to happen. And you can't even
say that with like you you worked at a restaurant,
like remember that time I got that I'll never forget
(32:10):
that at that really good restaurant with a good reputation
in Philadelphia that like put dish so soap instead of
honey on top of my ice cream. Well, this is
what slip slip ups happen. This soap is supposed to
be like a fluorescent color, so there is no room
to mix them up. Because what happened is you got
like a palm all of equivalent of soap on your
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dessert when you when they thought it was honey, But
like I'm saying, that's totally unacceptable because at the bar,
all of our soap was hot pink, like it could
not be mixed up with anything. It's the color of pepto,
Like you can't you can't confuse it with anything. Yeah,
so I and they and there's the same exact thing
happens in a lab that there's certain places we don't
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store things together. Everything's supposed to be labeled and dated
when it was opened and things like that. And I mean,
like when you have humans involved with anything, something like
this is gonna happen. But the whole entire time, I
was just like, oh my god, like this this is
like medical malpractice on the hugest level, the hugest lawsuit ever.
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And like I don't know if that kind of stuff
goes down in Morocco like that, but this, if any
case exists, it's this one. Oh totally. Well, Thank you
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