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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about some celebrity cosmetic surgical procedures.
A baby who is found in a horrendous animal hoarding situation.
(00:32):
Talk about raccoons, dead goats. Yeah, a doctor who was
giving chemotherapy to healthy patients just to make money off them.
Real nice, A man assaulting someone after an offensive bodily function,
medical kidnapping, and a very unusual reason why a woman
was denied a mammogram. All that moral on today's episode.
(00:54):
So we'll start off talking about your favorite celebrity ever,
Chrissy Kegan. I don't know. I don't even know. Oh,
like why is she even famous? Like what has she
ever done? She's a model? Oh whatever, it's married to
John Legend. Yeah, I could care less. I think that
she looks like deformed, and I can't believe more people
(01:14):
aren't just like, what did this chick do to her face?
So she quote accidentally like Major Irol posted on Instagram
live while she was like her whole head was wrapped.
She clearly just had a procedure and then she went
off with this is why, this is exactly why I
can't stand this chick, because how do you accidentally post
on Instagram Live? I don't even know how to do
(01:36):
it if I tried, Well maybe because you can't because
you're banned. Well I'm banned for three hundred and sixty
days whatever. But like before, I mean, I've never goten.
I've never accidentally gone on live. I see the button,
but I've never hit it, and like I've always hitten
stuff by accident on there. It was totally strategic because
then and she so happened to be looking in the
camera too, like smiling, like, okay, do you know what
(01:58):
I look like when my camera accident opens? I have
like quadruple chin. Have I always been this hideous like
horrible angles that like, oh, super accident. I've just I
happen to have my phone held up and I'm smiling
with something wrapped around my head. And then and then
like everybody's like what is that about? Which it so
(02:20):
I roll exactly so of course you know it's all
over TMZ and like all the press because people screenshotted
it and everything. And then she came out later and
said she had a hairline lowering procedure because she lost
a lot of her front hairs from having babies and
it's very thin up there. Well, yeah, I mean that
could happen. It's it's kind of a cold surgery they
(02:40):
can do if you have if your forehead is too big,
or if your forehead is too small, you can kind
of cut it and make it shorter or longer, which
is pretty interesting. So what all right, So they cut
your they cut your forehead, and then they move the skin.
That's how they do it. Yeah, Like so when I
(03:01):
take out someone's brain and I make an incision from
ear to ear all the way at the top of
the head, I could I could essentially just pull dirt
skin right off of the front of their skull, Like
it just peels all the way down very easily. So
with that theory, you could either pull it back to
make the forehead bigger, or you can take it from
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the top and pull it down to make the farhead smaller.
So they make an incision right along the hairline, so
when they if the scar heels nice, you won't even
be able to tell. And I think that there's like
lots of celebrities get this done, Like I think your girl,
Teresa gudeis definitely got it done well. I was when
(03:44):
you say that because she had like a two head. Definitely,
Lucia's got that. Like they laugh about it so much,
like that Lucia's forehead is like seriously one finger, one finger,
and it's one of her fingers, so that's like a
pinky finger of it. It is not that bad. It
really is. It really is. It's so cute. It's so
(04:04):
cute though. It's like my favorite thing is her little
fuzzy forehead. But Lillians is kind of small too though honestly,
like I'm just like it's not as obvious with you
because Lilian's got like a fair skin and fair hair
and you can't see you can't see it as much
as you can only get from Gabe's side because you
kind of a big forehead. Now that I'm looking, I
(04:25):
do have a big forehead, but I think it got
bigger as I'm getting older. I think my hair is
falling out. And also like the botox, really like is
it because of shadow these babies and it's yeah, that's
why that's why. Yeah, I mean this thing is is
she She is very open about all the procedures. She's
not open about all of her procedures, not all of them.
But what did she do to her face? Because her
(04:48):
her face looks crazy to me. She has clearly way
too many like fillers. And then she had the Google
fat removal, which I think is the worst surgery. It
ages so many people. I don't think it ever looks
good people have that removed. So I would say, God,
Miley Cyrus got that done, and it looks like weird.
Everybody goes on into it, you know, like obviously people
(05:11):
are gonna be annoyed by the way we're talking about
people right now. But like I've gotten into a new
phrase lately, where like, look at Bill Belichick's girl from
for example, She's twenty four years old. So I said
to Ricky, she looks good if she were fifty. She
doesn't look like a twenty four year old. She looks
like a fifty year old that had good work done. Well,
maybe she's trying to look older so she doesn't look
(05:32):
as young next to him. But this is no this
is how it is today. I'm like watching Secret Lives
and Mormon Wives. These girls are all my age, and
I'm like, they look ten years older than me, and
they've had so much work done on their faces, all right, crazy,
and that's fine. Like we could sit here and talk
about how terrible some of these people look, but there's
(05:55):
been a couple people that have come out this month
that look really freaking good. And my number one person
is Anne Hathaway. Like, if you're listening right now, which
I know you're not, but if you are, like, who
is your surgeon? Because I will mortgage my house to
get to go to them for she looks so good,
and so does Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan and Chris Jenner
(06:16):
looks pretty good with her latest face look. See, Chris
Jenner looks really good. However, I don't trust their photos
that they release, so although she probably looks better, I
want to see what she looks like in real life
because they photoshop their photos so much, like you know
what I mean, Like it makes me be like, does
it really look this good? Or is this just because
(06:37):
you photoshop the shit out of it too? So but
I agree it looks because she was starting to get
a little like Michael Jacksony look in you know, she
was getting that weird like look. Well because everybody that
gets so much plastic surgery like that starts getting the
very specific look where you're like borderline scary looking because
(06:58):
so much there's all these what was going around now
too of Jeff Bezo's girlfriend Laurence Sanchez and and like
what she looked like before and after, And I don't
know if like the before picture might be because she's
she how old is she now? She's like my age
probably I think she's in her earlies fifties. I mean,
(07:18):
I think the problem is is you start off small,
you get some botox, you get a little filler, and
then you start getting carried away, and then that's when
you start end up looking in that territory. Because I
think Laurence Sanchez was so incredibly beautiful, and it just
looks like she's overdone it with the injections. Yeah, like
it really does. And it's it just is sad to
(07:39):
me that doctors because I know that a lot of
times people be like this and that, and like speaking
of doctor Dimitri who does my botox, and he like
he would be like, no, I'm not doing it. Well,
a good doctor would turn you down. I actually have
been seeing a lot of articles lately pertaining to Laurence
Sanchez being like, who the hell are this lady's doctor
(08:00):
that are like leading her in this horrible direction. Yeah,
because I think a lot of times with these types
of things, you always have the issue that women are
having some kind of body dysmorphia and they don't think
their lips are big enough for this or that, and
then all of a sudden, it's like it's it's like
gone too far, you know, And I think that's like
(08:21):
Christy tigue and with the cheeks, Like I like, you
look at pictures of her when you're younger, and you're like, Okay,
she has she has big cheeks, like she's a big
cheek person. But I like, I don't even know what's
happening now. But when I first started seeing because you know,
like you're you're all into the movie stars and stuff,
I'm not, so I don't even know who these people are.
And I first saw a picture of her and I
(08:41):
was like, why is no one addressing this right now?
Like she looks really abnormal to me. Some of these
people are looking like abnormal. Well, for a couple of years,
people thought she was the most amazing person ever toil
it came out that she told Courtney Sadden to kill herself,
and then all these other tweet horrible tweets were coming out,
so like she really hasn't exhibited exhibited nice person behavior
(09:04):
on the Internet. But I think the whole point of
the story, whether we're talking shit about people getting botched
injections or whatever, is that, like she didn't accidentally go
on Instagram vibe and post it and just happen to
look like that. I'm sorry, it's very strategic that you
do something like that, and you just so happened to
be smiling and looking directly in the camera. And it's
also not right up on her face, like if you
(09:25):
were like I'm gonna hold my PHONEO for example, Like
when I look at my phone, it's this far from
my face typically right, like that's gonna be close. This
is very held out, like he has it on a
phone stand. Yeah, it was just it. I just called bullshit,
like it's so stittated and like, oh TMZ just happens
to be writing about me. They haven't written about me
in a while because I haven't done anything relevant recently,
(09:47):
and I was getting a lot of heat for tweets
that happened ten years ago when I was a terrible person.
So I don't buy it. I think it's ridiculous. Yeah,
And like I said, if anyone knows who Anne Hathaway's search, well,
that guy's probably getting bombarded. She looks at Lady Gaga
had a good face with the last couple of years
listen and everyone has one. Like all these people like
(10:08):
that say they don't they all do well you could see,
and that's that annoys the shit out of me. But
like I like with the Anne Hathaway situation, I'm like,
if that's where plastic surgery is going, Like I'm into
that because it's just like barely it just looks like,
oh fresh, but like there's no oh she looks like
a freak or anything like she just looks she just
(10:31):
looks good. And so does Lizzie Lohan. Like Lindsay Lohan's
the one that started that. I feel like, oh, totally,
she looks better now than she did when she was younger,
and it's just like a refresh and it's just it
looks good. But something like how do you find a
surgeon like that? That's just so scary, like because it's
your face, you know what I mean? Like I don't
want to look like Lauren Sanchez, so like I'll just
(10:52):
age gracefully. I guess, I don't know. I think it's
just tempting because Anne Hathaway, You're like, damn, that looks
so good. I would argue that these level of facelifts
are in the like half a million million dollars right now. Yeah,
they'll be like, yeah, your your house mortgage is still
not paid because like for example, like so a lot
(11:12):
of older women get facelifts, right and it's like, we
look at Kathy Hilton and Martha Stewart's side by side,
they literally look like the same person. It's crazy. And
I wonder if they go to the same surgeon because
they have similar features in general. But I often get
their pictures confused because they look identical. Well, and Martha Stewart,
she said that she gets botox and filler, I think,
(11:34):
but she's never admitted to getting surgery. But she's had surgery.
She's one hundred percent of face, you know what, it's
eight years old, like what I know. And they they
they try to let they try to like portray themselves
as being these superhumans that are immune to like j
Loo and are olive oil. They're just like they're immune
to like everything else. Like they're not. They're like these
(11:55):
these like superhumans and they're not they're not the same
as us, which they're not, I mean clear, but it
has like and you know in your real life, like
some there's all different ranges of people and how they
look for ages, right, but there's always a range, and
these people don't fall in the range even a little bit.
So it's like, oh, you're just these superhumans that don't
(12:17):
you don't get saggy neck and no wrinkles, like okay,
you know whatever. Yeah, And I'm not judging people that
get plastic surgery. I mean there's definitely a bunch of
judging ones that can. I'm just judging people that get
bad plastic surgery. It's the same as you know what
famous people do too all the time they get shitty
tattoos or like, you have all the money in the
world and you could call the best artists and be like, Hi,
(12:40):
can you come tattoo me and I'll pay you, and
they would, and you go to like the corner shop
and get the trashiest worst tattoos, worst placement ever, and
you sit there and you're just like, in this day
and age, with all of the access that these people have,
you just don't understand why they do that. So I
guess the same could be say said about the surgeries too.
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All right, let's talk about this couple who both abused
animals and children. Yeah, So this young couple was arrested
in South Carolina after police found they were raising their
eight month old baby amongst forty seven animals, six of
which were dead, and one of those dead animals was
a decomposing goat carcass in a bathtub. Raccoons, rabbits, dogs, chickens,
(13:24):
twenty five dogs, three cats, five raccoons, six chickens, two rabbits.
So they said forty one total live animals in the
house and six were dead, shit and pay everywhere. The
investigator said that the ammonia from the urine was burning
their eyes and they find this little beautiful eight month
old baby there and they say to the parents like, uh,
(13:45):
we're taking this baby away, And the parents just didn't
even seem phased by They must be on drugs, right,
like what else? What is happening there? Yeah? I mean yeah,
like what there's either severe mental illness or drug abuse
going on, because how could if the police are saying
it was burning their eyes just going into the scene,
how are these people living in this twenty four to seven?
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And then they said, despite how discussing the house was,
the baby was in pretty good health. Yeah. I thought
that was shocking, but oh yeah, and they probably they
probably don't even realize that this is a child abuse
having your child in this situation. But the investigators were
saying that animals shouldn't even be living in that kind
of a situation. And I mean some of them were
(14:27):
severely dehydrated, covered in feces, matted for like all of
that stuff, and you're just like, what is happening? No,
I have no idea. All right, this next case is
uh disturbing that a doctor would do something like this
In Texas, this sixty eight year old rheumatologist has been
(14:47):
set into ten years in prison after falsely diagnosing his patients,
leading to unnecessary treatments, including chemo. And he was doing
this for two decades, so I was trying to figure
out what happened. So it looked like he put in
one hundred and eighteen million dollars in false claims to
Medicare and when he put in those claims, he received
(15:09):
more than twenty eight million dollars from the insurance companies.
My question is, like, I mean, this is probably this
is probably how he got caught. I'm assuming because he
got greedy, and like you, this is what they're going
to do. In Texas. They look at all the rheumatologists
in the area and they're like, oh, this one put
(15:30):
in one hundred and eighteen million dollars in claims, and
then this one with a similar size practice put in
one hundred twenty millions, like exactly, Like I I can't
even imagine it would be anywhere near that. And that,
you know what, something similar happened there was like this
this big healthcare scandal with with my husband's health insurance
(15:51):
for the state of New Jersey employees, and something similar
kind of happened like that that there was that the
insurance company got keyed off because because people were they
found the loophole to get cash out of it, and
they were abusing it, and it just looked absolutely ridiculous
that all of these things were coming from just the
certain group of people. Right, It's the same kind of
(16:13):
a situation. So I don't know how it went on
this long, but that's what I'm saying. I mean, this
is a long time and him so he got twenty
eight million dollars over the course of however many years.
He had a luxury lifestyle with fancy cars, even a jet,
high end real estate and all this stuff. And wait
to hear how disturbing some of these claims are. So
(16:35):
patients were going into court and saying all of the
side effects they were having for some of this toxic medication.
So when you go to rheumatology, especially and you're diagnosed
with something like rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or something, they
want to put you on some hardcore drugs sometimes and
this is like a benefit reward thing with the drugs,
(16:56):
so they're just like listen, like we're giving you these
drugs so you could have a better quot life for
your joints, or so your kidneys don't fail or something
like that. But some of these medications are extremely toxic
or they could cause such bad immunosuppression that you can
get different kinds of weird infections, like we were talking
about on the last episode or one earlier this week,
about these people that are getting histoplasmosis on vacation. So
(17:20):
in this case, these people were saying that they've had strokes,
necrosis of the jawbones, so their jawbone died, so that
leads to lots of disfiguring surgeries, hair loss, liver damage.
One of the patients way too year screwed up. This
is one of the patients showed up to court because
(17:40):
she was given unnecessary chemo and now she's ridden since
she was eleven years old. He gave it to a child,
an eleven year old child. This is where I think
I for an eye comes in, because give this motherfucker
chemo unnecessarily. Don't put them in jail, just let them
stay home and just give him chemo because guess Monny
(18:02):
likes it. Chronic nausea and pains and any complications that
come from chemo I'm sure are more torturous than sitting
in a prison cell. So, oh my god, nausea is
the worst, and like all of it is the worst,
like all of this stuff, and you're just like and
the fact that they didn't need it, like that he's
ruined multiple people's lives and they will never get that back. Yeah,
(18:24):
and it's it's almost like if you if you got
it approved, Like, let me just think about this a second.
If you got the drug approved and we're trying to
give the medication to the people and stuff, I don't
understand why you couldn't just say that the patient was
going to take this medication and then like you actually
(18:45):
like give them a Salien drip or something. Why are
you giving them the actual drug? Because he's clearly a
sick fuck So, like, I know, I just like about that.
I just think it's like and this person like went
to medical school and did a residency in rheumatology and
like and and it's just like so bizarre to me.
You're telling me one day in his forties he just
all of a sudden figured this out and was like,
(19:07):
I don't care what happens to my patience. So you're
probably a practicing doctor for at least twenty years before
you start engaging this. What the fuck was he doing before?
He was probably doing it for a while, And like
like if he was doing it at half of half
of half a bunch as he was doing it, he
would never get caught. But the thing is is that
he got greedy, and how would he think that that
(19:29):
Medicare wouldn't realize this at some point. I mean they
it took them a very long time. But and the
thing is is that he has to pay back the
money and he has to do this and that. But
like unless all of these investments he had actually has
made him more money than like, he might not even
have that money back. And none of that even matters,
because like, you can't give people back their job bones,
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You can't give people back their hair. You can't give
an eleven year old that you've destroyed who's now bedridden,
who had to be taken to court in a hospital bed,
you can't get for herself. How horrible is it? Yes?
And I'm good, like listen, like I'm sure that that
was like mad drama and and and that was like
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one of the things that threw it over the edge
for this to be proven, because could you imagine being
a jar and seeing something like that? No, what a scumbag.
And when you're talking about jawbones, all I'm thinking about
is The Radium Girls and how horrific that was. Everybody
needs to read that book by Kate Moore. And if
you guys remember we have an interview with her. Yeah,
that Oh yeah, that was so good. Oh my god,
(20:31):
that book is so deeply disturbing about like workplace negligence, poisoning. Yeah,
and it's it has it has nothing to really do
with this particular thing, but the the dead bone and
all of the disgusting side effects. I mean, when you
have a jawbone that is dead, think about how important
your jaw is. You need it to talk and you
need it to eat. So, yes, that's a problem. And
(20:55):
even if you could get reconstructive surgery and stuff, there's
going to be periods of time where you can't for
months at a time because the surgeries. And like, I'm sorry,
but eating is a huge part of enjoyment of life.
And if you're just getting a tube feeding, most people
would agree that that takes away from your quality of
(21:15):
enjoying life. And not to mention, it's on your face
and it can make you malformed. I mean, the whole
thing is just so upsetting. This episode is brought to
you by the Gross Room. Guys, I'm not sure what
(21:37):
we're doing for next week's High profile or celebrity death dissection.
We have a couple of things on the back burner,
including position assistant suicide, Marie, what was that one you
said you want you wanted to get into. Yeah, I'm
going to be doing a dis section on the Galvin
family who had twelve children and six of them had schizophrenia.
So we're gonna look into that and how they were
(21:59):
pivotal and skitzo for any research. It's really sad story
and it was a crazy book to read, and there's
a docu series too, So I'm gonna kind of like
condense like this thirteen hour audiobook in this talking series
and make it into a nice little article for you
guys to read. But I think all our members are
gonna be really interested in that. Yeah, and of course,
(22:19):
like if anybody dies, then we're on it, so check
that out. We also played what is It Wednesday this week,
So every Wednesday I post four different cases. One is
a special effects make up, the other three you have
to guess what the injuries are and then the winner
could win a prize. And what's really cool is that
(22:40):
a lot of the members make these really great guesses.
Some guess it completely or some make really educated guesses,
which makes me just happy as a teacher person that
you know that people are learning from what I'm teaching them.
So that's super cool and so yeah, check that out
and you could win a prize. Yeah, head over to
the gross room dot com. All right, So, you know,
(23:03):
do you ever have a situation where like someone burps
like really close to you and you could smell it,
or they fart really close to you and you could
like smell it or like taste it, like you feel
like it's in your mouth and it kind of like
pisses you off. Yeah, well I think that's what happened
in this case, but instead, like the guy took it
to the next level. Yeah. So these two guys were
(23:24):
waiting in line at what a plasma center? Like you
know what, after you tell the story, we're gonna get
into those places. All right. So these all right, First
of all, the next three stories all happen in Pennsylvania,
so like, of course, not shocking because it's not that
far from us. But this first one, two men were
waiting in line in a plasma center. One of them,
which was an elderly man, farted in the line. He
(23:46):
turned around and apologized to the guy behind him, but
it wasn't good enough, and then that guy ended up
assaulting him. So the reason I say the Plasma Center
is because like this place is like this would happen
a place like this? What is it? I don't even understand.
I see them popping up everywhere. They're everywhere because they
(24:06):
exploit poor people. That's what they do. It's really it's
really like a terrible thing. Like you go there, so
I feel like the way that it's the way that
it's advertised, you don't really understand what's going on because
there's a big difference between donating your blood and your
plasma and stuff to the Red Cross who you're donating it,
so you're giving it to them for like a juice box,
(24:29):
and they're using it to save people's lives. Right, there's
a big difference. These places pay people. They exploit poor people,
So what would they do with it? Even though they
say they don't, it's like, well, they're using it for research,
and they're using it for pharmaceutical companies. Well, and they
pair a story that some guy had gone like fifty
(24:49):
times in three months. Yeah, there's like a bunch of rules,
but it they they pay almost up to if you
are a regular and you go as often as you're
a and there's all these stipulations because you can't have
a tattoo or piercing in a certain amount of time,
and you have to be healthy, and you have to
be over a certain weight, and you have to wait
a certain amount of days in between. But if you
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go every single week as often as you're supposed to
go and do it, you could make up to eight
thousand dollars a year doing it, which is a lot
of money. That is a lot of but like it's
gross like that. To me. It's like it's just a
gross that that people would have to go there and
give their blood in order to make that much. I
don't know. The whole thing of it is just doesn't
(25:32):
sit well with me. I don't like it. And they
they use it for, they use it for whatever the
pharmaceutical company wants to use it for. I feel like like,
if you're going to do something like that, and you
want to do something like that, like obviously donate to
Red Cross and stuff, so when people need blood from
surgeries or anything like that or trauma, like obviously you
(25:53):
want to have room in your heart for an elderly
person that toots in public. But at the same time,
there's certainly people that problems that do it. Well, also
like the dude apologize, which I'm like, that's really nice
because most people fart and they like act like they
didn't do it right, Like people aren't usually like oh sorry,
like right, he actually he actually did more than any
(26:16):
person I've ever been around. It's just it's just I mean, listen,
like I do think it triggers something in people, for sure,
because it's it is disgusting to like, especially when it's
like not yours or your family. Even it's it's really
gross and it can have you've never considered doing it
(26:37):
when somebody was standing really close to you that like
would it back off? You like crop dusting them? Like why,
I don't know, I can't really fart on demand. Well,
you're clearly not the delco pooper. So did you see
she got like extra charges? And I'm like, shit, I
(26:58):
forget what, but I saw something I think we talked about.
She got charged with indecent exposure and it didn't even
occur to me at the time that if that goes through,
she's gonna be on like a sex offender list, which
is insane. I don't think she cares about what she
looks like. No, she doesn't seem like this is any person,
this would be a pretty embarrassing event. And she she
(27:20):
like had a viral video of her shitting on someone's
car and she was proud. Listen if that happened in
my car, I don't even I don't know if the
car wash could really likeduce my car properly enough, Like yeah, exactly.
When people are standing too close to me in line
and I keep moving up and they keep moving up,
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then I'll open my phone and start typing a text
that I don't end up sending to you or Ricky
and be like, this person's standing like in my body,
basically up my ass. But I feel like you could
consider if somebody was standing super close to you letting
one rip so that they back, but then you might
get punched in the face like in this key. But
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people need to be more aware of personal space out
in public, Like I don't want a stranger in my space,
and it's not anything to do with like COVID or illnesses.
I don't want anybody near me at There's been a
couple of times that I've had to tell people that
they're standing too close to me this six feet and
it's not like you're at Disney World when you're like
smaushed like it's like sometimes it's like there's absolutely no
reason this person is standing this close to me. Well,
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the six feet apart thing was awesome for a little
bit because as somebody that doesn't like anyone in my
personal space, there was a lot of good things about COVID.
I'm sorry, like I'm not complaining, just there was a
lot of good things getting out of doing a lot
of things standing apart from people not having to talk
to people, people being scared to talk to you, like,
there was definitely good things about it. Now we have
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a really weird case to talk about medical kidnapping. I've
never even heard of this, but apparently again this happened
not too far from us. That forty eight people are
involved with this lawsuit against this one particular doctor. No,
we've talked about a case similar to this. I'll get
to it afterwards, but this doctor is being student in
Philadelphia for allegedly over reporting child abuse and causing parents
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to lose custody of their six children. So remember we
talked about that case of Maya Kowalski where she had
that very bizarre, rare condition called complex regional pain syndrome,
and that the doctors accused the family of Munchausen by proxy,
and then her mother ended up, oh, by suicide. So
this is definitely something that happens. But in this case,
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I mean, there's forty eight plaintiffs in this account, in
this lawsuit that are claiming its medical kidnapping. They're showing
up to courts saying their kid was kidnapped. The kids
are wearing shirts and cordances I was kidnapped. But this
doctor has apparently accused all these families of the munchilds
and by proxy, which is do you want to explain
what that is? Well, that's like Gypsy Rose's story basically,
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it's that she's the most famous example. At first, it's
supposed to be an extremely rare condition. And I think
that a lot of people could look at people in
their right life and be like, Okay, that kid, that
parent has like a twinge of this, right everything, let
you know, has a twinge of it. That they're just like, oh,
my kid's got stuff wrong with them, and I'm trying
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to figure it out and this and that, because like
a lot of times that's just kind of true, and
that happens, and it might seem like that because some
kids are totally fine and then you're like, uh, that whatever.
But there's these extreme stories of like Gypsy Rose, where
a parent takes it to an extreme and like pretends
the kid has cancer and gives a kid cancer medication
and has the kid in a wheelchair when the kid's
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able to walk, and feeding tube and feeding tubes and
all this stuff. Yeah, just so they can get attention
or pretend the kid has cancer or anything like that.
So so, because the condition is is kind of a
rare phenomenon, it's very unusual that forty eight people that
had interactions with this physician have been diagnosed with it.
First one doctor encountered forty eight, Yeah, which is like, no,
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that didn't happen. And it's really scary because one of
the people that are involved in this lawsuit said that
his daughter missed several days of school and the school
called a caseworker. And I don't know if that's just
protocol because the kid missed so many days of school,
but I was thinking, like, remember when Lillian had walking
in the monas, she missed like straight up two weeks
of school, Like she just was coughing so bad. Yeah,
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so I guess cert like in a public school situation,
they would call they could call a caseworker, and the
caseworker was like, okay, well can you just bring the
kid into the hospital. They get her checked, and at
the hospital they were like, yeah, you're not taking your
child home. You have Munchausen by proxy. And in some cases,
these parents didn't have their kids for weeks and even months, Like,
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how messed up is that? Well, I think that's what
happened in the Maya Kowalski case because she was separated
from her parents for three months and obviously she's already
going through this whole medical condition and that's tough to
deal with as a parent, and then you're being falsely
accused of having Munchausen by proxy, and then you're separated
from your child. It's too difficult to bear. Yeah, I
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can't even imagine. So I'm glad this this doctor is
getting sued. I mean, it's it's about time. I mean,
very tistool that they found each other, Like that's how
bad it is that these people found each other. Statistically,
that is outrageous that one did encountered forty eight patients
when this is like not considered to be not that
common of a thing. Maybe you'd understand less than five
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in a whole career, but forty eight that at one
time can file a class action lawsuit. I mean, this
is ridiculous and like to the point where they need
their children taken away. It's it is ridiculous, and you
feel like you have like even if you get exonerated
and everything, like it doesn't matter, Like that's never that's
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a traumatic event for your kid and for you, you know, yeah, absolutely,
all right. Another messed up case in the medical community
is about this woman who was denied a mammogram for
a very unusual reason. Yeah, so she's posting on Reddit
looking for legal advice. She claimed she was denied a
mammogram because she wouldn't consent to her photos being made public. Yeah,
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so when you fill out the forms, the hippiforms and
all this. This was a situation where it said that
they wanted to use photographs or videotaped images or other
images for the purpose of media publicity. And she said like, hey,
I want to get this mamogram, but like I'm not
checking this off because I don't want you to use
pictures of my breast for whatever you want to use
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them for. I don't. I don't consent to that. And
then they said, all right, well you can't get the
mamogram if you don't check off the box. So then
she consulted the legal department and they said, yeah, we
can't change the wording on the consent form. So ridiculous.
And so another woman had posted underneath of this reddit
forum that that she had a similar situation when she
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had a breast reduction surgery, and she said that they
wouldn't she couldn't get out of getting pictures taken. And
then and she said that she wanted to go to
another doctor that wouldn't be making her get her picture taken,
and her insurance wouldn't cover her going to another doctor,
so she had to have it. And she felt like
she was victimized. And I understand that, Like if you
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I'm like, when I just got my surgery two weeks ago,
I was like, yeah, it's take pictures and take pictures
for me so I could show everybody. I'm like that.
But if it was like my boobs, maybe I wouldn't
be okay with that. And I and I, you know,
like I don't know if I if I just want
random pictures of my boobs online like that. You know.
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So I think that if you say that you don't
want to do it, then they shouldn't make you do it.
That's not that it doesn't even seem like it should
be legal. And I feel like it's just more of
like the paperwork needs to be reworked because you're not
You're they're not asking you if it's okay. They're telling you, like,
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we're not doing it unless you make it okay. Well,
it seems like a huge ethical concern, and like you're
telling me they don't have enough patients that are okay
with it to make up for the few that don't
want it to happen. It's ridiculous that you have to
give permission for marketing materials. Yeah, and that's what I
was gonna say, because let's say, for example, when you
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get an autopsy done, like it'll say, like you're signing
this thing and just to let you know, we're taking
pictures that might be used for medical education and this
and that, And like, I honestly, I've never had a
situation where a family was like, no, you can't take
pictures for medical for for the record and for But
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this is not saying that this isn't because obviously when
you get a mammogram, they're putting your images in your chart.
It's for your documentation of your record. Do you think
she's misunderstanding it like the like the form is that
the pictures will be uploaded to her chart in the records,
but she's thinking it's going to be used for marketing purposes.
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I don't know, because the other person in the post
said that the same exact thing happened too, and it's like, obviously,
like for a mammogram, they're not going to use a
picture of somebody's They might though for if they might
use an actual imaging picture, because they don't. They're not
going to take pictures of your actual breast, so it
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would be like your imaging pictures and they might just say,
like you ever see those ads sometimes that like show
this little tumor was found in this breast, and if
it's like an actual mammogram, if you don't want it
out there, even if it can't identify you, you should
be able to say that, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I just I do think the wording is a little
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bit weird. But I mean, I guess if you guys
have ever had a situation like this, let me know.
I mean, like I said, I'm pretty much kind of
like you could do whatever you want to do. I mean,
they're it gets a little iffy with with a medical
pictures because if you use pictures of somebody's face or
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they have tattoos or something, then you could tell who
the person is. But like, honestly, if you're using a
picture of a mammogram, like nobody knows it's you, then
like who cares? But like, I guess you have that
right as a person to be like you're not doing that.
Part of me feels like it was just a misunderstanding.
But obviously with the climate of everything today, you could
see how this happens as well. Well. I don't know,
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I don't like the word that she used medical or
media publicity, Like that's interesting that she said that. Yeah, No, definitely,
I mean it's it's worrisome because you should be able
to get any medical treatment you need done done and
not have to worry about your pictures being posted on
the internet. But it is kind of funny though, Like
they hand you all those papers to sign and it's
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like it doesn't matter, Like if you like you have
to sign it, that's it. So like why are they
even telling you to read it and sign it because
they won't do it without you signing it. Yeah, So
it's like you're not really asking if it's okay, you're
just telling yeah, because I was thinking, like a lot
of forms they don't give you until you're either there
or the day before. So like when I got my
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surgery a couple months ago, what if the morning of
they gave me one of those papers, Like I'm already
prepped for surgery, Like what am I supposed to do? Yeah?
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about some celebrity cosmetic surgical procedures.
A baby who is found in a horrendous animal hoarding situation.
(00:32):
Talk about raccoons, dead goats. Yeah, a doctor who was
giving chemotherapy to healthy patients just to make money off them.
Real nice, A man assaulting someone after an offensive bodily function,
medical kidnapping, and a very unusual reason why a woman
was denied a mammogram. All that moral on today's episode.
(00:54):
So we'll start off talking about your favorite celebrity ever,
Chrissy Kegan. I don't know. I don't even know. Oh,
like why is she even famous? Like what has she
ever done? She's a model? Oh whatever, it's married to
John Legend. Yeah, I could care less. I think that
she looks like deformed, and I can't believe more people
(01:14):
aren't just like, what did this chick do to her face?
So she quote accidentally like Major Irol posted on Instagram
live while she was like her whole head was wrapped.
She clearly just had a procedure and then she went
off with this is why, this is exactly why I
can't stand this chick, because how do you accidentally post
on Instagram Live? I don't even know how to do
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it if I tried, Well maybe because you can't because
you're banned. Well I'm banned for three hundred and sixty
days whatever. But like before, I mean, I've never goten.
I've never accidentally gone on live. I see the button,
but I've never hit it, and like I've always hitten
stuff by accident on there. It was totally strategic because
then and she so happened to be looking in the
camera too, like smiling, like, okay, do you know what
(01:58):
I look like when my camera accident opens? I have
like quadruple chin. Have I always been this hideous like
horrible angles that like, oh, super accident. I've just I
happen to have my phone held up and I'm smiling
with something wrapped around my head. And then and then
like everybody's like what is that about? Which it so
(02:20):
I roll exactly so of course you know it's all
over TMZ and like all the press because people screenshotted
it and everything. And then she came out later and
said she had a hairline lowering procedure because she lost
a lot of her front hairs from having babies and
it's very thin up there. Well, yeah, I mean that
could happen. It's it's kind of a cold surgery they
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can do if you have if your forehead is too big,
or if your forehead is too small, you can kind
of cut it and make it shorter or longer, which
is pretty interesting. So what all right, So they cut
your they cut your forehead, and then they move the skin.
That's how they do it. Yeah, Like so when I
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take out someone's brain and I make an incision from
ear to ear all the way at the top of
the head, I could I could essentially just pull dirt
skin right off of the front of their skull, Like
it just peels all the way down very easily. So
with that theory, you could either pull it back to
make the forehead bigger, or you can take it from
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the top and pull it down to make the farhead smaller.
So they make an incision right along the hairline, so
when they if the scar heels nice, you won't even
be able to tell. And I think that there's like
lots of celebrities get this done, Like I think your girl,
Teresa gudeis definitely got it done well. I was when
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you say that because she had like a two head. Definitely,
Lucia's got that. Like they laugh about it so much,
like that Lucia's forehead is like seriously one finger, one finger,
and it's one of her fingers, so that's like a
pinky finger of it. It is not that bad. It
really is. It really is. It's so cute. It's so
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cute though. It's like my favorite thing is her little
fuzzy forehead. But Lillians is kind of small too though honestly,
like I'm just like it's not as obvious with you
because Lilian's got like a fair skin and fair hair
and you can't see you can't see it as much
as you can only get from Gabe's side because you
kind of a big forehead. Now that I'm looking, I
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do have a big forehead, but I think it got
bigger as I'm getting older. I think my hair is
falling out. And also like the botox, really like is
it because of shadow these babies and it's yeah, that's
why that's why. Yeah, I mean this thing is is
she She is very open about all the procedures. She's
not open about all of her procedures, not all of them.
But what did she do to her face? Because her
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her face looks crazy to me. She has clearly way
too many like fillers. And then she had the Google
fat removal, which I think is the worst surgery. It
ages so many people. I don't think it ever looks
good people have that removed. So I would say, God,
Miley Cyrus got that done, and it looks like weird.
Everybody goes on into it, you know, like obviously people
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are gonna be annoyed by the way we're talking about
people right now. But like I've gotten into a new
phrase lately, where like, look at Bill Belichick's girl from
for example, She's twenty four years old. So I said
to Ricky, she looks good if she were fifty. She
doesn't look like a twenty four year old. She looks
like a fifty year old that had good work done. Well,
maybe she's trying to look older so she doesn't look
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as young next to him. But this is no this
is how it is today. I'm like watching Secret Lives
and Mormon Wives. These girls are all my age, and
I'm like, they look ten years older than me, and
they've had so much work done on their faces, all right, crazy,
and that's fine. Like we could sit here and talk
about how terrible some of these people look, but there's
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been a couple people that have come out this month
that look really freaking good. And my number one person
is Anne Hathaway. Like, if you're listening right now, which
I know you're not, but if you are, like, who
is your surgeon? Because I will mortgage my house to
get to go to them for she looks so good,
and so does Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan and Chris Jenner
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looks pretty good with her latest face look. See, Chris
Jenner looks really good. However, I don't trust their photos
that they release, so although she probably looks better, I
want to see what she looks like in real life
because they photoshop their photos so much, like you know
what I mean, Like it makes me be like, does
it really look this good? Or is this just because
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you photoshop the shit out of it too? So but
I agree it looks because she was starting to get
a little like Michael Jacksony look in you know, she
was getting that weird like look. Well because everybody that
gets so much plastic surgery like that starts getting the
very specific look where you're like borderline scary looking because
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so much there's all these what was going around now
too of Jeff Bezo's girlfriend Laurence Sanchez and and like
what she looked like before and after, And I don't
know if like the before picture might be because she's
she how old is she now? She's like my age
probably I think she's in her earlies fifties. I mean,
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I think the problem is is you start off small,
you get some botox, you get a little filler, and
then you start getting carried away, and then that's when
you start end up looking in that territory. Because I
think Laurence Sanchez was so incredibly beautiful, and it just
looks like she's overdone it with the injections. Yeah, like
it really does. And it's it just is sad to
(07:39):
me that doctors because I know that a lot of
times people be like this and that, and like speaking
of doctor Dimitri who does my botox, and he like
he would be like, no, I'm not doing it. Well,
a good doctor would turn you down. I actually have
been seeing a lot of articles lately pertaining to Laurence
Sanchez being like, who the hell are this lady's doctor
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that are like leading her in this horrible direction. Yeah,
because I think a lot of times with these types
of things, you always have the issue that women are
having some kind of body dysmorphia and they don't think
their lips are big enough for this or that, and
then all of a sudden, it's like it's it's like
gone too far, you know, And I think that's like
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Christy tigue and with the cheeks, Like I like, you
look at pictures of her when you're younger, and you're like, Okay,
she has she has big cheeks, like she's a big
cheek person. But I like, I don't even know what's
happening now. But when I first started seeing because you know,
like you're you're all into the movie stars and stuff,
I'm not, so I don't even know who these people are.
And I first saw a picture of her and I
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was like, why is no one addressing this right now?
Like she looks really abnormal to me. Some of these
people are looking like abnormal. Well, for a couple of years,
people thought she was the most amazing person ever toil
it came out that she told Courtney Sadden to kill herself,
and then all these other tweet horrible tweets were coming out,
so like she really hasn't exhibited exhibited nice person behavior
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on the Internet. But I think the whole point of
the story, whether we're talking shit about people getting botched
injections or whatever, is that, like she didn't accidentally go
on Instagram vibe and post it and just happen to
look like that. I'm sorry, it's very strategic that you
do something like that, and you just so happened to
be smiling and looking directly in the camera. And it's
also not right up on her face, like if you
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were like I'm gonna hold my PHONEO for example, Like
when I look at my phone, it's this far from
my face typically right, like that's gonna be close. This
is very held out, like he has it on a
phone stand. Yeah, it was just it. I just called bullshit,
like it's so stittated and like, oh TMZ just happens
to be writing about me. They haven't written about me
in a while because I haven't done anything relevant recently,
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and I was getting a lot of heat for tweets
that happened ten years ago when I was a terrible person.
So I don't buy it. I think it's ridiculous. Yeah,
And like I said, if anyone knows who Anne Hathaway's search, well,
that guy's probably getting bombarded. She looks at Lady Gaga
had a good face with the last couple of years
listen and everyone has one. Like all these people like
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that say they don't they all do well you could see,
and that's that annoys the shit out of me. But
like I like with the Anne Hathaway situation, I'm like,
if that's where plastic surgery is going, Like I'm into
that because it's just like barely it just looks like,
oh fresh, but like there's no oh she looks like
a freak or anything like she just looks she just
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looks good. And so does Lizzie Lohan. Like Lindsay Lohan's
the one that started that. I feel like, oh, totally,
she looks better now than she did when she was younger,
and it's just like a refresh and it's just it
looks good. But something like how do you find a
surgeon like that? That's just so scary, like because it's
your face, you know what I mean? Like I don't
want to look like Lauren Sanchez, so like I'll just
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age gracefully. I guess, I don't know. I think it's
just tempting because Anne Hathaway, You're like, damn, that looks
so good. I would argue that these level of facelifts
are in the like half a million million dollars right now. Yeah,
they'll be like, yeah, your your house mortgage is still
not paid because like for example, like so a lot
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of older women get facelifts, right and it's like, we
look at Kathy Hilton and Martha Stewart's side by side,
they literally look like the same person. It's crazy. And
I wonder if they go to the same surgeon because
they have similar features in general. But I often get
their pictures confused because they look identical. Well, and Martha Stewart,
she said that she gets botox and filler, I think,
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but she's never admitted to getting surgery. But she's had surgery.
She's one hundred percent of face, you know what, it's
eight years old, like what I know. And they they
they try to let they try to like portray themselves
as being these superhumans that are immune to like j
Loo and are olive oil. They're just like they're immune
to like everything else. Like they're not. They're like these
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these like superhumans and they're not they're not the same
as us, which they're not, I mean clear, but it
has like and you know in your real life, like
some there's all different ranges of people and how they
look for ages, right, but there's always a range, and
these people don't fall in the range even a little bit.
So it's like, oh, you're just these superhumans that don't
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you don't get saggy neck and no wrinkles, like okay,
you know whatever. Yeah, And I'm not judging people that
get plastic surgery. I mean there's definitely a bunch of
judging ones that can. I'm just judging people that get
bad plastic surgery. It's the same as you know what
famous people do too all the time they get shitty
tattoos or like, you have all the money in the
world and you could call the best artists and be like, Hi,
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can you come tattoo me and I'll pay you, and
they would, and you go to like the corner shop
and get the trashiest worst tattoos, worst placement ever, and
you sit there and you're just like, in this day
and age, with all of the access that these people have,
you just don't understand why they do that. So I
guess the same could be say said about the surgeries too.
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All right, let's talk about this couple who both abused
animals and children. Yeah, So this young couple was arrested
in South Carolina after police found they were raising their
eight month old baby amongst forty seven animals, six of
which were dead, and one of those dead animals was
a decomposing goat carcass in a bathtub. Raccoons, rabbits, dogs, chickens,
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twenty five dogs, three cats, five raccoons, six chickens, two rabbits.
So they said forty one total live animals in the
house and six were dead, shit and pay everywhere. The
investigator said that the ammonia from the urine was burning
their eyes and they find this little beautiful eight month
old baby there and they say to the parents like, uh,
(13:45):
we're taking this baby away, And the parents just didn't
even seem phased by They must be on drugs, right,
like what else? What is happening there? Yeah? I mean yeah,
like what there's either severe mental illness or drug abuse
going on, because how could if the police are saying
it was burning their eyes just going into the scene,
how are these people living in this twenty four to seven?
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And then they said, despite how discussing the house was,
the baby was in pretty good health. Yeah. I thought
that was shocking, but oh yeah, and they probably they
probably don't even realize that this is a child abuse
having your child in this situation. But the investigators were
saying that animals shouldn't even be living in that kind
of a situation. And I mean some of them were
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severely dehydrated, covered in feces, matted for like all of
that stuff, and you're just like, what is happening? No,
I have no idea. All right, this next case is
uh disturbing that a doctor would do something like this
In Texas, this sixty eight year old rheumatologist has been
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set into ten years in prison after falsely diagnosing his patients,
leading to unnecessary treatments, including chemo. And he was doing
this for two decades, so I was trying to figure
out what happened. So it looked like he put in
one hundred and eighteen million dollars in false claims to
Medicare and when he put in those claims, he received
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more than twenty eight million dollars from the insurance companies.
My question is, like, I mean, this is probably this
is probably how he got caught. I'm assuming because he
got greedy, and like you, this is what they're going
to do. In Texas. They look at all the rheumatologists
in the area and they're like, oh, this one put
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in one hundred and eighteen million dollars in claims, and
then this one with a similar size practice put in
one hundred twenty millions, like exactly, Like I I can't
even imagine it would be anywhere near that. And that,
you know what, something similar happened there was like this
this big healthcare scandal with with my husband's health insurance
(15:51):
for the state of New Jersey employees, and something similar
kind of happened like that that there was that the
insurance company got keyed off because because people were they
found the loophole to get cash out of it, and
they were abusing it, and it just looked absolutely ridiculous
that all of these things were coming from just the
certain group of people. Right, It's the same kind of
(16:13):
a situation. So I don't know how it went on
this long, but that's what I'm saying. I mean, this
is a long time and him so he got twenty
eight million dollars over the course of however many years.
He had a luxury lifestyle with fancy cars, even a jet,
high end real estate and all this stuff. And wait
to hear how disturbing some of these claims are. So
(16:35):
patients were going into court and saying all of the
side effects they were having for some of this toxic medication.
So when you go to rheumatology, especially and you're diagnosed
with something like rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or something, they
want to put you on some hardcore drugs sometimes and
this is like a benefit reward thing with the drugs,
(16:56):
so they're just like listen, like we're giving you these
drugs so you could have a better quot life for
your joints, or so your kidneys don't fail or something
like that. But some of these medications are extremely toxic
or they could cause such bad immunosuppression that you can
get different kinds of weird infections, like we were talking
about on the last episode or one earlier this week,
about these people that are getting histoplasmosis on vacation. So
(17:20):
in this case, these people were saying that they've had strokes,
necrosis of the jawbones, so their jawbone died, so that
leads to lots of disfiguring surgeries, hair loss, liver damage.
One of the patients way too year screwed up. This
is one of the patients showed up to court because
(17:40):
she was given unnecessary chemo and now she's ridden since
she was eleven years old. He gave it to a child,
an eleven year old child. This is where I think
I for an eye comes in, because give this motherfucker
chemo unnecessarily. Don't put them in jail, just let them
stay home and just give him chemo because guess Monny
(18:02):
likes it. Chronic nausea and pains and any complications that
come from chemo I'm sure are more torturous than sitting
in a prison cell. So, oh my god, nausea is
the worst, and like all of it is the worst,
like all of this stuff, and you're just like and
the fact that they didn't need it, like that he's
ruined multiple people's lives and they will never get that back. Yeah,
(18:24):
and it's it's almost like if you if you got
it approved, Like, let me just think about this a second.
If you got the drug approved and we're trying to
give the medication to the people and stuff, I don't
understand why you couldn't just say that the patient was
going to take this medication and then like you actually
(18:45):
like give them a Salien drip or something. Why are
you giving them the actual drug? Because he's clearly a
sick fuck So, like, I know, I just like about that.
I just think it's like and this person like went
to medical school and did a residency in rheumatology and
like and and it's just like so bizarre to me.
You're telling me one day in his forties he just
all of a sudden figured this out and was like,
(19:07):
I don't care what happens to my patience. So you're
probably a practicing doctor for at least twenty years before
you start engaging this. What the fuck was he doing before?
He was probably doing it for a while, And like
like if he was doing it at half of half
of half a bunch as he was doing it, he
would never get caught. But the thing is is that
he got greedy, and how would he think that that
(19:29):
Medicare wouldn't realize this at some point. I mean they
it took them a very long time. But and the
thing is is that he has to pay back the
money and he has to do this and that. But
like unless all of these investments he had actually has
made him more money than like, he might not even
have that money back. And none of that even matters,
because like, you can't give people back their job bones,
(19:50):
You can't give people back their hair. You can't give
an eleven year old that you've destroyed who's now bedridden,
who had to be taken to court in a hospital bed,
you can't get for herself. How horrible is it? Yes?
And I'm good, like listen, like I'm sure that that
was like mad drama and and and that was like
(20:10):
one of the things that threw it over the edge
for this to be proven, because could you imagine being
a jar and seeing something like that? No, what a scumbag.
And when you're talking about jawbones, all I'm thinking about
is The Radium Girls and how horrific that was. Everybody
needs to read that book by Kate Moore. And if
you guys remember we have an interview with her. Yeah,
that Oh yeah, that was so good. Oh my god,
(20:31):
that book is so deeply disturbing about like workplace negligence, poisoning. Yeah,
and it's it has it has nothing to really do
with this particular thing, but the the dead bone and
all of the disgusting side effects. I mean, when you
have a jawbone that is dead, think about how important
your jaw is. You need it to talk and you
need it to eat. So, yes, that's a problem. And
(20:55):
even if you could get reconstructive surgery and stuff, there's
going to be periods of time where you can't for
months at a time because the surgeries. And like, I'm sorry,
but eating is a huge part of enjoyment of life.
And if you're just getting a tube feeding, most people
would agree that that takes away from your quality of
(21:15):
enjoying life. And not to mention, it's on your face
and it can make you malformed. I mean, the whole
thing is just so upsetting. This episode is brought to
you by the Gross Room. Guys, I'm not sure what
(21:37):
we're doing for next week's High profile or celebrity death dissection.
We have a couple of things on the back burner,
including position assistant suicide, Marie, what was that one you
said you want you wanted to get into. Yeah, I'm
going to be doing a dis section on the Galvin
family who had twelve children and six of them had schizophrenia.
So we're gonna look into that and how they were
(21:59):
pivotal and skitzo for any research. It's really sad story
and it was a crazy book to read, and there's
a docu series too, So I'm gonna kind of like
condense like this thirteen hour audiobook in this talking series
and make it into a nice little article for you
guys to read. But I think all our members are
gonna be really interested in that. Yeah, and of course,
(22:19):
like if anybody dies, then we're on it, so check
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So every Wednesday I post four different cases. One is
a special effects make up, the other three you have
to guess what the injuries are and then the winner
could win a prize. And what's really cool is that
(22:40):
a lot of the members make these really great guesses.
Some guess it completely or some make really educated guesses,
which makes me just happy as a teacher person that
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So that's super cool and so yeah, check that out
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(23:03):
do you ever have a situation where like someone burps
like really close to you and you could smell it,
or they fart really close to you and you could
like smell it or like taste it, like you feel
like it's in your mouth and it kind of like
pisses you off. Yeah, well I think that's what happened
in this case, but instead, like the guy took it
to the next level. Yeah. So these two guys were
(23:24):
waiting in line at what a plasma center? Like you
know what, after you tell the story, we're gonna get
into those places. All right. So these all right, First
of all, the next three stories all happen in Pennsylvania,
so like, of course, not shocking because it's not that
far from us. But this first one, two men were
waiting in line in a plasma center. One of them,
which was an elderly man, farted in the line. He
(23:46):
turned around and apologized to the guy behind him, but
it wasn't good enough, and then that guy ended up
assaulting him. So the reason I say the Plasma Center
is because like this place is like this would happen
a place like this? What is it? I don't even understand.
I see them popping up everywhere. They're everywhere because they
(24:06):
exploit poor people. That's what they do. It's really it's
really like a terrible thing. Like you go there, so
I feel like the way that it's the way that
it's advertised, you don't really understand what's going on because
there's a big difference between donating your blood and your
plasma and stuff to the Red Cross who you're donating it,
so you're giving it to them for like a juice box,
(24:29):
and they're using it to save people's lives. Right, there's
a big difference. These places pay people. They exploit poor people,
So what would they do with it? Even though they
say they don't, it's like, well, they're using it for research,
and they're using it for pharmaceutical companies. Well, and they
pair a story that some guy had gone like fifty
(24:49):
times in three months. Yeah, there's like a bunch of rules,
but it they they pay almost up to if you
are a regular and you go as often as you're
a and there's all these stipulations because you can't have
a tattoo or piercing in a certain amount of time,
and you have to be healthy, and you have to
be over a certain weight, and you have to wait
a certain amount of days in between. But if you
(25:11):
go every single week as often as you're supposed to
go and do it, you could make up to eight
thousand dollars a year doing it, which is a lot
of money. That is a lot of but like it's
gross like that. To me. It's like it's just a
gross that that people would have to go there and
give their blood in order to make that much. I
don't know. The whole thing of it is just doesn't
(25:32):
sit well with me. I don't like it. And they
they use it for, they use it for whatever the
pharmaceutical company wants to use it for. I feel like like,
if you're going to do something like that, and you
want to do something like that, like obviously donate to
Red Cross and stuff, so when people need blood from
surgeries or anything like that or trauma, like obviously you
(25:53):
want to have room in your heart for an elderly
person that toots in public. But at the same time,
there's certainly people that problems that do it. Well, also
like the dude apologize, which I'm like, that's really nice
because most people fart and they like act like they
didn't do it right, Like people aren't usually like oh sorry,
like right, he actually he actually did more than any
(26:16):
person I've ever been around. It's just it's just I mean, listen,
like I do think it triggers something in people, for sure,
because it's it is disgusting to like, especially when it's
like not yours or your family. Even it's it's really
gross and it can have you've never considered doing it
(26:37):
when somebody was standing really close to you that like
would it back off? You like crop dusting them? Like why,
I don't know, I can't really fart on demand. Well,
you're clearly not the delco pooper. So did you see
she got like extra charges? And I'm like, shit, I
(26:58):
forget what, but I saw something I think we talked about.
She got charged with indecent exposure and it didn't even
occur to me at the time that if that goes through,
she's gonna be on like a sex offender list, which
is insane. I don't think she cares about what she
looks like. No, she doesn't seem like this is any person,
this would be a pretty embarrassing event. And she she
(27:20):
like had a viral video of her shitting on someone's
car and she was proud. Listen if that happened in
my car, I don't even I don't know if the
car wash could really likeduce my car properly enough, Like yeah, exactly.
When people are standing too close to me in line
and I keep moving up and they keep moving up,
(27:42):
then I'll open my phone and start typing a text
that I don't end up sending to you or Ricky
and be like, this person's standing like in my body,
basically up my ass. But I feel like you could
consider if somebody was standing super close to you letting
one rip so that they back, but then you might
get punched in the face like in this key. But
(28:04):
people need to be more aware of personal space out
in public, Like I don't want a stranger in my space,
and it's not anything to do with like COVID or illnesses.
I don't want anybody near me at There's been a
couple of times that I've had to tell people that
they're standing too close to me this six feet and
it's not like you're at Disney World when you're like
smaushed like it's like sometimes it's like there's absolutely no
reason this person is standing this close to me. Well,
(28:26):
the six feet apart thing was awesome for a little
bit because as somebody that doesn't like anyone in my
personal space, there was a lot of good things about COVID.
I'm sorry, like I'm not complaining, just there was a
lot of good things getting out of doing a lot
of things standing apart from people not having to talk
to people, people being scared to talk to you, like,
there was definitely good things about it. Now we have
(28:47):
a really weird case to talk about medical kidnapping. I've
never even heard of this, but apparently again this happened
not too far from us. That forty eight people are
involved with this lawsuit against this one particular doctor. No,
we've talked about a case similar to this. I'll get
to it afterwards, but this doctor is being student in
Philadelphia for allegedly over reporting child abuse and causing parents
(29:09):
to lose custody of their six children. So remember we
talked about that case of Maya Kowalski where she had
that very bizarre, rare condition called complex regional pain syndrome,
and that the doctors accused the family of Munchausen by proxy,
and then her mother ended up, oh, by suicide. So
this is definitely something that happens. But in this case,
(29:30):
I mean, there's forty eight plaintiffs in this account, in
this lawsuit that are claiming its medical kidnapping. They're showing
up to courts saying their kid was kidnapped. The kids
are wearing shirts and cordances I was kidnapped. But this
doctor has apparently accused all these families of the munchilds
and by proxy, which is do you want to explain
what that is? Well, that's like Gypsy Rose's story basically,
(29:51):
it's that she's the most famous example. At first, it's
supposed to be an extremely rare condition. And I think
that a lot of people could look at people in
their right life and be like, Okay, that kid, that
parent has like a twinge of this, right everything, let
you know, has a twinge of it. That they're just like, oh,
my kid's got stuff wrong with them, and I'm trying
(30:12):
to figure it out and this and that, because like
a lot of times that's just kind of true, and
that happens, and it might seem like that because some
kids are totally fine and then you're like, uh, that whatever.
But there's these extreme stories of like Gypsy Rose, where
a parent takes it to an extreme and like pretends
the kid has cancer and gives a kid cancer medication
and has the kid in a wheelchair when the kid's
(30:33):
able to walk, and feeding tube and feeding tubes and
all this stuff. Yeah, just so they can get attention
or pretend the kid has cancer or anything like that.
So so, because the condition is is kind of a
rare phenomenon, it's very unusual that forty eight people that
had interactions with this physician have been diagnosed with it.
First one doctor encountered forty eight, Yeah, which is like, no,
(30:56):
that didn't happen. And it's really scary because one of
the people that are involved in this lawsuit said that
his daughter missed several days of school and the school
called a caseworker. And I don't know if that's just
protocol because the kid missed so many days of school,
but I was thinking, like, remember when Lillian had walking
in the monas, she missed like straight up two weeks
of school, Like she just was coughing so bad. Yeah,
(31:18):
so I guess cert like in a public school situation,
they would call they could call a caseworker, and the
caseworker was like, okay, well can you just bring the
kid into the hospital. They get her checked, and at
the hospital they were like, yeah, you're not taking your
child home. You have Munchausen by proxy. And in some cases,
these parents didn't have their kids for weeks and even months, Like,
(31:39):
how messed up is that? Well, I think that's what
happened in the Maya Kowalski case because she was separated
from her parents for three months and obviously she's already
going through this whole medical condition and that's tough to
deal with as a parent, and then you're being falsely
accused of having Munchausen by proxy, and then you're separated
from your child. It's too difficult to bear. Yeah, I
(32:00):
can't even imagine. So I'm glad this this doctor is
getting sued. I mean, it's it's about time. I mean,
very tistool that they found each other, Like that's how
bad it is that these people found each other. Statistically,
that is outrageous that one did encountered forty eight patients
when this is like not considered to be not that
common of a thing. Maybe you'd understand less than five
(32:22):
in a whole career, but forty eight that at one
time can file a class action lawsuit. I mean, this
is ridiculous and like to the point where they need
their children taken away. It's it is ridiculous, and you
feel like you have like even if you get exonerated
and everything, like it doesn't matter, Like that's never that's
(32:44):
a traumatic event for your kid and for you, you know, yeah, absolutely,
all right. Another messed up case in the medical community
is about this woman who was denied a mammogram for
a very unusual reason. Yeah, so she's posting on Reddit
looking for legal advice. She claimed she was denied a
mammogram because she wouldn't consent to her photos being made public. Yeah,
(33:07):
so when you fill out the forms, the hippiforms and
all this. This was a situation where it said that
they wanted to use photographs or videotaped images or other
images for the purpose of media publicity. And she said like, hey,
I want to get this mamogram, but like I'm not
checking this off because I don't want you to use
pictures of my breast for whatever you want to use
(33:29):
them for. I don't. I don't consent to that. And
then they said, all right, well you can't get the
mamogram if you don't check off the box. So then
she consulted the legal department and they said, yeah, we
can't change the wording on the consent form. So ridiculous.
And so another woman had posted underneath of this reddit
forum that that she had a similar situation when she
(33:52):
had a breast reduction surgery, and she said that they
wouldn't she couldn't get out of getting pictures taken. And
then and she said that she wanted to go to
another doctor that wouldn't be making her get her picture taken,
and her insurance wouldn't cover her going to another doctor,
so she had to have it. And she felt like
she was victimized. And I understand that, Like if you
(34:16):
I'm like, when I just got my surgery two weeks ago,
I was like, yeah, it's take pictures and take pictures
for me so I could show everybody. I'm like that.
But if it was like my boobs, maybe I wouldn't
be okay with that. And I and I, you know,
like I don't know if I if I just want
random pictures of my boobs online like that. You know.
(34:36):
So I think that if you say that you don't
want to do it, then they shouldn't make you do it.
That's not that it doesn't even seem like it should
be legal. And I feel like it's just more of
like the paperwork needs to be reworked because you're not
You're they're not asking you if it's okay. They're telling you, like,
(35:00):
we're not doing it unless you make it okay. Well,
it seems like a huge ethical concern, and like you're
telling me they don't have enough patients that are okay
with it to make up for the few that don't
want it to happen. It's ridiculous that you have to
give permission for marketing materials. Yeah, and that's what I
was gonna say, because let's say, for example, when you
(35:22):
get an autopsy done, like it'll say, like you're signing
this thing and just to let you know, we're taking
pictures that might be used for medical education and this
and that, And like, I honestly, I've never had a
situation where a family was like, no, you can't take
pictures for medical for for the record and for But
(35:42):
this is not saying that this isn't because obviously when
you get a mammogram, they're putting your images in your chart.
It's for your documentation of your record. Do you think
she's misunderstanding it like the like the form is that
the pictures will be uploaded to her chart in the records,
but she's thinking it's going to be used for marketing purposes.
(36:05):
I don't know, because the other person in the post
said that the same exact thing happened too, and it's like, obviously,
like for a mammogram, they're not going to use a
picture of somebody's They might though for if they might
use an actual imaging picture, because they don't. They're not
going to take pictures of your actual breast, so it
(36:25):
would be like your imaging pictures and they might just say,
like you ever see those ads sometimes that like show
this little tumor was found in this breast, and if
it's like an actual mammogram, if you don't want it
out there, even if it can't identify you, you should
be able to say that, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I just I do think the wording is a little
(36:45):
bit weird. But I mean, I guess if you guys
have ever had a situation like this, let me know.
I mean, like I said, I'm pretty much kind of
like you could do whatever you want to do. I mean,
they're it gets a little iffy with with a medical
pictures because if you use pictures of somebody's face or
(37:06):
they have tattoos or something, then you could tell who
the person is. But like, honestly, if you're using a
picture of a mammogram, like nobody knows it's you, then
like who cares? But like, I guess you have that
right as a person to be like you're not doing that.
Part of me feels like it was just a misunderstanding.
But obviously with the climate of everything today, you could
see how this happens as well. Well. I don't know,
(37:28):
I don't like the word that she used medical or
media publicity, Like that's interesting that she said that. Yeah, No, definitely,
I mean it's it's worrisome because you should be able
to get any medical treatment you need done done and
not have to worry about your pictures being posted on
the internet. But it is kind of funny though, Like
they hand you all those papers to sign and it's
(37:48):
like it doesn't matter, Like if you like you have
to sign it, that's it. So like why are they
even telling you to read it and sign it because
they won't do it without you signing it. Yeah, So
it's like you're not really asking if it's okay, you're
just telling yeah, because I was thinking, like a lot
of forms they don't give you until you're either there
or the day before. So like when I got my
(38:09):
surgery a couple months ago, what if the morning of
they gave me one of those papers, Like I'm already
prepped for surgery, Like what am I supposed to do? Yeah?
I don't know, So I don't know. Well, thank you
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