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July 10, 2025 11 mins

AJR stops by to talk about their journey from singing in malls to headlining massive tours, the mystery of their missing brother Adam, the art of not taking themselves too seriously, and some truly horrifying tour bus bathroom confessions! Plus, we get a glimpse into their Broadway dreams, and find out what “hot bagging” really means (trust us, you’ll never look at road trips the same way again).

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Live from the Mercedes Fence Interview Lounge. Hello, Hello, can
you turn me on? Thank you? Hello?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
If I had a dime for every time I ever
went hello, i'd have thirty cents.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Are you doing? Give me things? Hey?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We're trying to figure out how many years ago it
was when we actually met a j art So, I
mean Jack and Ryan are here, yes, Adam, we'll get
to that in a moment.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
How many years has it been.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think it's been like nine years. I think we
were first on when we name checked you in a song.
Righto oh was that wrong?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It was before? No, we met in a mall in Miami. Yes, Froggy,
you were there, Froggy?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, So how many years ago was that we did
a shopping spree at a mall?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It had to be like two thousand and eight or nine.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh that feels so wrong to me. Maybe it's right. Yeah,
I don't think I was alive. Yeah, what looks like
you were definitely not conscious? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's weird when a fetus shows up to the mall.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, a long time ago. I was well over ten
fifteen years ago, without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
The reason I bring it up not that it's important,
but I'll make it important. Look at where you were
then in two thousand and nine or whatever it was,
and where you are now and what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You're still dressed the same.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do you remember how we trust look the same though?
I think age really Yeah, there's no way I had.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I guess I just shaved this MORTI so I don't
really have much of one, but yeah, there's no way
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You're wear the same as a baby. You've been wearing
that same hat. I was wearing the hat back then,
for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, well so but you know, back then you were
in a mall, singing to people on a shopping spree. Yeah,
and now you're selling out these big, incredible venues.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Give it a year, Yeah, just give it a trust me. Yeah,
it's just really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
If you bring up a jar to anyone, anyone I know, anyway,
you see a smile. Oh oh, it's it's very simple. Yeah,
it is very telling, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't think we ever thought we'd be this big. Honestly,
I think we have always thought, let's try to appeal
to a few people, be really honest in our music,
and then if those few people tell a few friends
will be good and its just like slowly spread year
after year.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well maybe that's something all artists should hear. Here, here's
the way to do it. You don't have to go
out there and be selling out stadiums in your first
your first year, totally.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I heard Chris Martin said that from Coldplay. He was like,
we've never been the coolest, hottest thing, and that's how
we've been able to stick around so long.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, good for you, good for us. I mean, if
you're a fan of AJR, you're you know what we're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know who you are.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Anyway, you were talking about us because we are also
not the coolest or the hottest.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think once you think you are the coolest, hottest thing,
then you're not the coolest totally. All right, Well, our
time's up. You can leave now. The new song, a
new single anyway I love is Betty. I'm going to
play it for you in a minute. But I see
a guitar in a ukulele, meaning something's about to go down.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh it's going down. We're doing this thing. Yeah, yeah,
we play a different song. Put him down? Now, why
you're running?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Why?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Why yet?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I guess something's not going down. We call it the t's.
So where's Adam today?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
May I ask?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Adam is not here today? He's doing a lot of stuff.
He's got his climates that he just put out a book,
so he's doing his book tour. He's he's doing a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I think he's doing too much. You think it's
too much.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Overachievers really make me nervous.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I know, right, Yeah, he'll calm down a little bit nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
But Jack and Ryan are here and they're going to
do a song. But we don't know what it is.
It's a mystery song.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Are we allowed to play now? It's hard to tell
what the what the Q is? Yes?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, there really is no plan here.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I love it. There never has been, never will be.
All right, So I don't want to say it's j R.
But it is definitely it is Jack and Ryan from
a j R with their mystery song.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
All Right, here we go scary, make him sound good?
This is a song called sober uh. Okay, yeah, look
at me? Why we were in Italy together?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You know I'm talking about it?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, see what just happened while you were singing. I
looked around. Everyone in this room had a big smile.
So fun is this this thing? But one day when
you open your eyes and everyone's frowning, you got a problem.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah. Then we're back at the mall.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
You're working on something for Broadway.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Harold and the Purple Crayon.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's right. Yeah, we're scoring a Broadway show right now.
It's Harold in the Purple Crind, which is a children's book.
It's sort of him aged up, faced with real life,
realizing I can't draw my problems away. It's something we're
really excited about.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
New challenge. Yeah cool, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
You know what, there's nothing wrong, there's it's everything right
about looking into a children's book to put it on
Broadway making it happen. I mean, you guys are no
stranger to children's program I mean, weren't you both on
Sesame Street. I think at one time, Perfect Sea.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I love that Alma loved you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Please please never do that again. First flashback, it was
your first attempt doing an Alma. She doesn't and my
teeth hurt. It also hits this weird frequency where garage
doors start opening it's a strange thing. So on the road,
you guys travel a lot on tour. I mean you

(05:29):
just did what China and Italy we did, is it right?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Is that why we were in Italy together? Was that
another time.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
We were in Italy together? That was actually just a vacation. Yeah,
we were just doing a bakery crawl and trying restaurants
and stuff. Did you eat well while you were there?
Look at me, Mama's got memories. It's like, whoa, But
I mean, traveling around the world, do you actually get
a time to walk out of the circle and go

(05:59):
vis that sights and eat the foods and meet the people.
Food on tours like the most important thing. It's gone
to the point where if we have a bad meal,
it's like it's a bad day, you know. It's we're
so snobby about that now, right. Other than that, we
see no sites the inside of our tour bus and
dressing is what we really Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
People think, oh, look, all around the world, get vacation,
NonStop working.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Wait a minute, at this point, can't you say, hey,
we need a day to go out and see the
sights too?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Scared? I don't want to make anyone mad or anything.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
After twenty years, I'm just still you know, I don't
believe that I was a total lie. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
What So you guys, are are you going to travel
more after this?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Did you did? China was like three days for tour?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, we're going on tour somewhere in the sky, Tour Oho,
somewhere in the sky.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's right. Yep.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We're traveling all around the country with friends and we
sort of like made our own little festival thing. So
that's gonna be really fun.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Okay, So this is one of our favorite of our
favorite questions about touring. You guys are touring on a
bus or do you fly from place to place on
the bus? What are the rules of the tour bus?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, the main one I feel like you've heard before. Yeah,
number two on the tour bus unless you have the
tor bus that accommodates that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Wait, they have number two. Let's get into the growth stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
They have like tour buses with grinders on it, right
on the toilet.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I was on grinder just last night. It's awesome. So
it grinds up your fecal matter.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, like in the sink, you know, you put on
the dispot whatever that's called disposals, flying.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Grinder they shoot it into.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Or anything else. Can people bring randoms back if they
want to?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Can you no randoms? Although it happened before, people have
broke that rule. Are there any other rules? Write your
name on your coconut water, your food or else. It's
just everybody's game.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, So would you ever if not touring, would you
ever find yourself taking an RV trip across the country
or if you just had enough on tour?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Definitely, no RV trip. But we love the bus so much.
It's like the best thing ever. We like debrief after
about all the drama that happened that day. It's like
quite the little community.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean, did call it the bush. Let's get back
to the bus. We have to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Good head goes in my hands like that. Are you
ready for this?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So Gandhi and a few others from our show, they
actually hopped in an RV twice. Yes, and traveled across
the country. Oh really, she drove. She's only four feet two.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I did basically standing up driving.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
So did you go?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
We went out west. We've done a couple of different things.
We went to a lot of the parks out there.
We drove from Texas to California once and then the
last one we kind of went north up to Glacier Park,
which was amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Do you have a grinder on the toilet?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
We did not, but we have the same role number two,
and we're going to throw you out of the vehicle.
You cannot do that. But where do you find to
stop to go number two? If you really have to go,
like what if it's an emergency.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh, there's a grocer one you've never done it. It's
called hot bagging. So you essentially, can I say this
on the right, absolutely, and you essentially take a garbage bag,
line the toilet with it, do your thing, and then
we stop and hopags of the garbage.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Okay, we do it for dogs, for people exactly, but
it's a small bus.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Everybody knows you're doing it. They catch on that someone's
hot bagging. You have to announce hot bag before you, guys.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love a hot bag alert.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Hot bag alert, Oh my gosh, I.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mean I could see hot bagging for number two, but
number three, Good god, we're gonna move on.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now, you're gonna move on.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Where where is it in your mind, this may be
an impossible question to answer, or maybe you can. Where's
the music going for you?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Hours? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
We're putting out a new EP called What No One's
Thinking EP, and it feels a little different for us
because I think we're going really feeling and I kind
of think that's where music in general is going. I'm
seeing a lot of like less thinking about the music that,
at least for me, that I'm consuming. Okay, I'm kind
of like listening to the lyrics and thinking, no, it's
more just like, even if the grammar doesn't make sense,

(10:14):
that's that me espresso. That's like, that's not correct grammar
by any means, but you just feel it, you know
what she means by it. And so I think we've
been really leaning into that. Like I'm listening and I
don't know necessarily exactly what it means, but I'm just
feeling the feeling that the artist wants me to feel.
So that's kind of this whole EP for us.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Are you finding also as you get older and as
you experience other things in life other than the happy
you know, unicorns flying around and stuff stuff in life,
do you find that the music is actually going there
as well.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Are you returing with the music?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I think one hundred percent always. Yeah. We try to
go really autobiographical and we're both like Betty for instance
our song like, we're both in long term relationships. We've
had a lot of conversations about committing forever and where
I'm in my thirties now Jacks in his late twenties.
It's just a conversation that's really difficult if you're an
unsure person of like, what does forever look like for

(11:05):
the rest of my life? So that's what Betty is about.
That's what actually a bunch of the songs in the
EP are about.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm gonna play Betty there there, look I can force
me to now you forced me to play Betty. The
new single is Betty of Course and a g R.
We love you, guys, We always have, always will forever,
even though I don't know what forever means because you
just told us, uh and thank you for coming in today.
And whatever happened in Italy stays in Italy.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
We'll never speak of it.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'm hoping a hot bag wasn't fulse please, a girl
can dream.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
No a g R. Thank you so much, Thank you, Jack,

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