August 5, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode, Lisa and Nick tackle our obsession with chasing achievement, accolades, and STUFF. From running marathons to obsessively collecting Funko Pops and Labubus, they talk about the uncomfortable truth that it'll never be enough, and explore the emotional voids we're desperately trying to fill. Buckle up for a no-holds-barred conversation on why we're all running after something--anything--to avoid facing the real issue: the fear of just being still and feeling our sh*t!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lisa Lampanelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yanta and know it
all and her words come from her head, her heart,
and often out of her ass. This podcast should not
be misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a
huge grain of salt for entertainment purposes. Only these.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You need help, You're the problems.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Come on, come do.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Go clam take a pill. I think you're insane. Do
what I say, dumb ass? Listen to me? You come on?
Are you kidding me? Enough is enough? Isn't that the truth?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I give one?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do too? You know what enough? Why am I
doing a podcast? Culturrink this with Lease Live and II?
Please email this's your questions. Just show at gmail dot
com that strength is Show at gmail dot com with
your question. Why, Nick, did I sign up to do
a podcast where I get to help others? And ostensibly
(01:19):
I know you like that word get rejection in return.
Who's helping me? No one? No one. I have to
pay for help. I don't think that's good.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm her health. It's bad.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, and even today I had to drive myself. It
was disgusting. I said, Nick, you may have to take
the wheel. Jesus take the wheel, because enough is enough,
which coincidentally is the topic of our episode today. When
(01:53):
is enough enough? And by that I mean things achievement.
I don't know, jerking off?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Maybe cock?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah? Nick, Actually Celia is here, by the way, our
beloved ish producer, Celia. This was so disgusting Nick last
week in my adult comedy class that he takes, which
is now a creativity group, just to take the pressure
off a little. Nick is like hitting heavy and hard
on this older lady in the class, but not like
(02:24):
hitting on her like he wants to fuck her, but
like just kind of like joking with her and stuff.
And I said to her after I go, Nick, man,
you gotta be more careful, like she might take offense,
and he goes, Dude, it's just like I was lifting before,
and I think I'm just horny. Give me that way.
You're like some weird nephew that I don't want to
(02:45):
think of that way. But like that's why I bring
up jerking off. When is enough enough? I may go
in for the kill maybe once a month enough, And
also when I'm done, I'm happy. I don't mean that
way I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Mean, I don't mean fulfilled.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I mean I'm like, when is this thing going to end?
Let's go. I have things to do, so no, no,
I'm just like, let's go like I do. But anyway,
in the old guitar there no, no, no, that's banjo
would have been better saved year off. Today you're already
(03:25):
on my nerve. No I know who isn't. But anyway,
I got to think, and because I've been following a
lot of influence not actually influencers, they call themselves de influencers,
to like, have you buy less stuff? And I started
thinking about it's never fucking enough. First of all, I
when I'm scrolling on the TikTok, I will if anything
(03:46):
says shop, I scroll immediately. If it says links for
sale and sizing, I scroll. I don't want to buy
more stuff. And I'm like, why isn't anything ever enough?
With people? It's I need the one last item of clothing,
that one style of jeans, that one lip gloss. It's like, bitch,
(04:07):
your lip gloss is not going to change your life.
And by the way, just like stop it. Learn from
lesbians don't wear makeup. That's like how I feel logie
as a sixty three year old non influencer myself. But Nick,
do you ever get caught in the trap of like,
oh my god, I'm always chasing something. It's like I
(04:27):
read a quote once where she said, which I loved
this quote, how I hate the word lovely, but I'll
allow it for this quote. How lovely is it to
be chasing nothing and running from nothing? The whole idea
is that as every time we buy something we don't need,
(04:48):
or get another degree, or get another you know, run
another race, whatever it is, we're running from something or
we're chasing something, and neither one feels very great. Are
you ever a victim of this?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I don't know. Back to it real quick. I want
to talk about when you're going.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Through tricket off.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah. Do you ever go to TikTok and you're like,
I'm gonna flick my bean?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, there's ever anybody hot on my TikTok. I think
I got TikTok. A few times they'll send me like
a hot gay, but I will never like because they
think I'm a gay guy. I'm okay, they know I'm
a gay guy, but I'm like, I feel weird flicking
it to uh, a gay. I just think I'm abusing them.
(05:30):
I feel like, against their will, I'm doing an act
that they would not lovely. Maybe they would appreciate it,
maybe for because for the for like if you watch
a minute, I guess they get money. I don't know
how this thing works. I don't know. People have creator
things and yeah, is it like if you watch it
for a full minute, you help.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, it's like a creator fund. So like if you
applied for the creator fund, then you get accepted and
you have like a minute it to make your money.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So if I do my monthly spanking to a guy
who's a gay, I'm actually an activist and an ally. Yeah,
because I'm really big. If you're shrumming the old ladyman,
you I mean, and we're talking monthly, it is not
a lot. I'm thinking if I had a guess for you, Nick,
let's just go back on that topic, I would guess
(06:21):
like three times a.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Day for you a day?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, you're insane, really never colleging.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Okay, now I'm thirty seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, twice a week, maybe that's it. Yeah, man, what
about you, Cilia, I don't do that. Oh my god,
that's what I used to say to I rarely do it.
I once, it's so funny. I didn't do it for
probably ten years because I went through menopause. I wasn't
on hormone therapy replacement. I was just like, oh, great,
Like I don't have a sex drive. It keeps me
(06:51):
from fucking awful guys. This is fantastic. But then I
started going on hormones just to get all the levels right,
and I started getting a tiny bit randy. If Phil's
a so I said to my shrink, I go, eh,
these kids, because she's only thirty two or something. I'm like,
these kids, they they have the vibrators. I don't need
any of that. And she goes, honey, it's not that
(07:15):
you need it, but you want it. Like so, she's like,
you don't get a vibrator because you need it, You
get it because you have the desire for it. I said,
I can't even search for one. Does Amazon sell them?
I don't know. I got over it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Doctor sounds hot.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What's she's she's queer?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
How's her lady harp doing?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's pretty good with the ladies.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She's gay?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, sorry, she always hits on old and gay people
can be a woman. So any way back to it,
do you feel like you have that chasing and that
chasing and that chasing You've definitely experienced.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That for sure. I would say with stuff not as much.
Like if we're talking about like clothes and things like that,
I talking about getting hard. I get hard when I
throw things out, Like I love getting rid of shit.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh we are so the opposite.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I love getting rid of things that I don't need,
you know what I mean, just like a good Will
run twice a year where I'm like, what the fuck
is this doing here? Like I love getting rid of it.
In that regard as far as chasing things, I don't
like people have come over and I have this like
new apartment has a nice walking closet, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh my god, you almost like it. You have a
it's like you're a minimalist. Not because you're a minimalist,
but because you're poor. Yeah, it's like self imposed minimalism.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But also that's like a very clean, elegant way to live.
I just think like the emotional thing behind over consumption
and just buying too much, it's just constantly running to
something and from something. So I remember I was doing
a retreat over New Year's Eve, and I said to
the that monk running the retreat, I was like, oh,
(09:00):
I feel like I'm running from I always feel like
I can't stop running. And he just goes, what are
you running from? And I just like burst into tears,
and I'm like, well, that clearly hit a nerve where
I'm definitely running from something. And it's not like I
have a repressed memory of childhood abuse or things like that,
but I'm running from I think worthlessness. So it's all
(09:23):
about am I worthy? Am I lovable? Am I someone
who can be loved or thought of as a friend
or whatever. And it's like, oh, but clicking the you know,
flair jeans from GANI inside joke is going to fix me. Well,
(09:45):
it fixes you intil the box arrives and then you're
kind of happy you open it and these try mind
and you're kind of happy you wear them once, and
it's like the law of diminishing returns. Now I need
that dopamine hit again. Which, oh, I need those in
the other color. Like I just bought three pairs. I
just bought three, no four pairs of H and M
(10:06):
second hand. Don't worry, I'm not going back on my
sustainability barrel leg jeans, which I love in four different colors,
because God forbid, you'd be able to not have the
light wash, which, by the way, you'll never wear because
no one ever wears light wash because they look like shit,
they're basically white. But you have to have them. And
(10:28):
by the way, I shouldn't say yeah, I had to
have them, and I'm like, oh, what was I trying
to fill that day? What was I trying to fill?
It wasn't the jeans. It's never the thing that's the
sad thing. It's never the thing. I mean, achievements, the
same thing you'd sell out won't say in your world
you sell out a Deli's, you sell out one place.
(10:55):
And again, I talked to comics all the time who
are like, like, what's your goal, And every one of them,
to a fault, will say, look, it's not like I
have to be famous or anything. I just like I
have to you know, but I love to make a
living from comedy, like you know what a headline of
comedy club, And in my head, I go, yeah, until
you do, and then it's gonna be the next thing,
and the next thing and next thing until it's like
(11:16):
you're just confronted with, Oh, it's never gonna be enough.
Radio City isn't enough, Madison Square Garden isn't enough, and
you're chasing some dream that you think is gonna give
you peace. I think that's the key. You never get
peace from any of this stuff. You get highs and lows,
and that's the opposite of peace.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I go back and forth on this a lot. This
is something I actually discussed this past week with with
my therapist. I was just talking about how like, when
I look back over the last seven years it we'll
say comedy in particular, or really anywhere in my life,
just career wise, the money I make everything the last
seven years or so has just gone consistently up and
(11:58):
they're progressing m m. And it's great. But then there
are moments where I'm like, should I be doing more?
Like I'm right, should be doing more. But everything's everything's
moving up, nothing's going backwards, nothing's getting worse. You're making
more money at work, you're making money from comedy, you're
getting better opportunities, like it's all going in the right direction.
(12:18):
Then I'm like, no, but I gotta you know this
one thing, like it's like almost like I'm looking for something.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I call you when I call that, And I had
it written down last year in the front of my
calendar because I'm still old school. I use old fashioned
paper calendar, and I wrote right on the first page,
so I see it every day. Quit making trouble in
your own life. So it's like everything's going contentedly along.
But then I got to make trouble. Because if we're
(12:44):
raised in a household, which you know, emotionally, we both
were emotionally, you know, immature parents. They did the best
they could. We're used to upheaval. Like we love drama.
We say we hate it, but every time you say
drama you hate drama probably means you fucking love it.
So when I'm like feeling a little too calm, that's
(13:07):
real unfamiliar, Like when's the last time I felt really calm,
It's like, oh, let me make some trouble. So Nick's
going along playing the the uh, you know, the brewery
down the street. So yeah, seventeen tickets an Irish Saint
Patty's Day and playing his lady harp to beat the band.
(13:31):
And then instead of going home and having that peaceful wow,
wasn't that nice? It's like, oh, that wasn't enough. What's next?
What's next? Cause we're not familiar with the feeling of
it just being fine.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah. I had that last summer where like I read
a personal finance book and I was like getting my
shit together money wise, and it was calm for three
months and it was like really nice. Yeah, and then
I get a case of what I like to call
the fuckets and you're like, yeah, but I want to
do this, I want to say no to that, and
then yeah, and then you dig yourself into a little
bit of hole and you're like.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Ah, well, then it was all fine. But the things
you were saying yes too, were they actually things that
they could have been fun or whatever? But did they
bring you I'm not gonna even say joy. Did they
bring you the piece that you wanted? Or was it
the three months that it was solid the more peaceful.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Did it bring me peace? Doing all the things didn't
bring me? A lot of it is bullshit things too
that I like, just I get it. You make the
justification in the moment that you're like I need this,
gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What's an example, Well, A big one for me is
ordering food out bats that's a big deal where it's like,
well I don't have lunch, da, what am I to do?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Like eat?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I gotta order right right? How about those three fricking
eight hundred pound chickens you got at the house that
you're buying bulk because you think you're bulking up?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I am, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're getting a little good No, I know you're getting
some protein and day looking good. No, But it's like
it doesn't. Yeah, it just brings you more of that thing,
more stress. And it's like if we could recognize it's
so advanced, it's so freaking hard to do, Like even
at this age, it's so hard to be like, oh,
I notice that flutter the where is it in my body?
(15:16):
Where is that that signal to just pause? You don't
need that? Do you want it? Maybe you don't even
want it. Maybe you want what you actually want, which
is connection or community or you know, a phone call
or just quiet like who knows. But it's never the thing.
(15:39):
That thing never does bring the peace. No, So I
think we fuck with our own lives, and this is
an easy way to do it because it's a quick
hit of whatever dopamine makes us feel, which is like, oh,
I'm on a high. I just order the cute issues
and I'm like, yeah, they're coming in.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's so cue. Do you have those?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know, it's just like bad.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah. I don't know what's the uh. I mean, we'll
get into this later in the episode, but like, I
don't know, like what's the remedy for that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I think it's basically doing getting the wake up call
in the moment. So, for instance, I told the story
I think where my shrink. I was complaining to my
shrink about not having enough community, and she just very
calmly said, oh, what will be enough? And I go,
It'll never be enough. I'm more than where that. It's not.
(16:27):
It is already enough. What I have is more than
most people. So it's basically within me to notice that
and go, it's a story. I'm telling myself that I
need those shoes. I do not need anything. No one
needs anything. Oh wait, where am I feeling the lack
of connection? Is it in my heart? Is in my throat?
Where is it? Like we do in therapy and be like, oh,
(16:50):
let me work on that. And sitting with that uncomfortableness,
sitting with the uncomfortableness of not pressing by now is
obviously going to get us much more more peace than
buying now. So same thing with like you get a
call to do like in the old days of roast
or a podcast or whatever it is TV show, Oh
(17:12):
my god, well, yes, yes, of course, and then wouldn't
it be nice to sit with it? Go do I
really want this? Is this something that really will bring
me peace and joy? Probably not. I probably probably would
retired like ten years earlier, because I've been like, oh,
that's not as joyful as it was, and it used
to be really full of fun and joy, but now
(17:34):
it's kind of like, not gonna get through it that way.
And this isn't saying like, oh, all you have to
do is quit everything, buy nothing and become like an
expert in meditation or going on retreats. You can overdo
with that stuff too. You could sign up for one
retreat a month and be like, oh, yes, so then
I'm gonna work on this, and then I'm gonna work
on that. And it's all just a distraction from not
wanting to feel uncomfortable on the inside. I think we're
(17:56):
all just running from feelings constantly.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, I think, I guess. I guess the answer is
just working on yourself right and just making yourself comfortable
with being because I've done this my whole life. It's
a series of ups and downs, and you just wonder like,
is this ever gonna nope, kept better or we're just
gonna We're just gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
At almost twice your age. No, And really you'll wake
up some mornings you're just like, oh my god, like
I thought this was over with. I thought this I
didn't have to work on this, and then something else happened,
and then you're just like, oh, I guess this is
acceptance of life.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
What what part of it or how much of it
do you think is? It's like someone wanting to stay stuck,
like maybe getting themselves stuck in the same routine, or
like they say it's spending money, or say it's whatever,
and it's like they play the there's a million examples
of this, but they just do the just they keep
telling themselves the same story over and over again, or
they keep acting out the same story over and over again.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
All that stuff I thinks stuckness, they say, is all fear,
fear of the unknown. So we're say you and I
had grown up in bollatle households, and we're we're scared
of what peace full like union of two people might
look like. What is it if it's not fighting? What
(19:20):
is it if it's not death? What is it if
it's not you know, everyone yelling at each other? Oh shit,
I might as well stay stuck in this, you know,
weird volatile marriage or relationship or friendship that's up and down,
up and down because the peace on the other side.
And I hate when people do this. They're like, oh
my god, I love up and down. It's so boring
(19:41):
to not go up and down. No, it's fucking not fun. Like,
it's not boring just to be at peace, because the
few moments I'll get of it, I'm like, Oh, this
is what it feels like. Why was I running from
this and just noticing it and going, oh wow, I
can actually change this and it's not as scary. Again,
(20:03):
the devil we know better than the angel. We don't
know which sucks.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It does suck, I know. That's like I always think, like,
what what if I Cause I've gotten into debt here
and there and I always get out, But like, what
if I just stayed out and build up a savings.
But then the new scary thing would be, well, and
now I have all the savings, should do I have
to buy?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
How?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What do I do now?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But yeah, the decision fatigue would come on and.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Be like, all right, I'm here now, and then what now?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
What I know? And I think it's all that thing
of going I guess I'll learn then, Like basically, like
I'm you and I've both got a lot of relationships
with boyfriend's girlfriends or whatever. They weren't all horrible, but
they weren't so great that you would want it to
continue forever. Right, must be pretty fucking scary to be
(20:51):
with somebody and take the chance and go ooh, it
feels kind of peaceful. Are we boring? Is it okay
to like just sit and watch a movie? Oh my god,
we're boring. We're those people now, It's yeah, it's like
you don't do anything. The best is when you just
sit there. So I think it's like all those the
fear of unknown is so overpowering. People just won't break
(21:12):
out of it, which I get it, you know. I
just think we don't change because we want to. It's
because we have to. So you have to be in
such a bad relationship that you leave, you have to
go in so much debt with useless purchases that didn't
bring you any peace, that you go, whoop, I gotta
(21:32):
change my ways. So it would be good to notice
it before you had a change, before it was that
urgent that you burn bridges and that your bankrupts and
all this other stuff. You know, and don't worry your salary.
You'll never make enough money for a house.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, by the way, I love how like we got
right into it. And I didn't even say who you are.
But people shouldn't know by now. Yeah, yeah, where way
do you find your Nick?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You can find me on Poshmark, buy my sweaters. I
make no Nick scopes on Instagram and tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But also, what's great, you guys, here's what to do.
I don't want Nick to get that fake dopamine hit
from getting additional followers. If you already follow Nick, go
on and unfollow him. And also if you if you
don't follow him, just don't and then let him not
(22:26):
get that dopamine and see how much peace there is
in ten followers. I think that would be right and
it would be good for your personal growth. I insist
people you can't listen if you follow.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Nick Anyway, this is Shrink This with Lisa Lampinelli, and
we're going to answer some viewer questions about this topic.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm thirty six years old and I have ran five
marathons two years. Wait Lisa's favorite.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Wait wait, five marathons in two years. Okay, you're mentally ill,
but I will reserve judgment.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Go beating my best time in each one. It's called achievement, Lisa,
look it up.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, this bitch is damn it. How should your father
hate you?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh? Man, I know I love the high of pushing
through the high and just sign up for my first
oh my god, my first iron Man race.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh. If this is a woman, you should be ashamed.
Your periods are gonna stop and your tits are gonna
get hot as rocks.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, like my well minorsoft. But uh Now, for those
who don't know it's an iron Man, this is in
the question. It's a full marathon on top of it
one hundred and twelve mile bike ride.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's something wrong with you.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
In a two point four mile swim.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's what iron Man is for everyone. It's I know
people do him.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's insane, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, because guess what bitch you are?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And then I'm never going to be satisfied no matter
how hard I think. It's a healthy passion. Do you
let me answer for Lisa saying you.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
God therapy, I mean, talk about what you're running from.
Like literally, now, I'm not saying this happened to dear Jamie,
but there is a best seller out right now. Do
not read it if you're triggered bi sexual assault. It
is called Amy Griffin's The Tell, and it is literally
(24:31):
about a woman who all she did was run. Sounds
exactly like this woman. I'm not saying this is Jamie,
but this woman Amy was running from something and through therapy,
finds out what it is. And it's horrifying what happened
to her. But she could never figure out why she
was always literally running and figuratively running. Always had to
(24:53):
be perfect and everything, had to always make things look easy,
had to be perfect mom, perfect wife, perfect everything, and
her kid one day says to her, talk about oh,
just in alignment with like what you're supposed to do?
Nine year old kid said to her Mommy, I don't
feel like I know you. You're always perfect, but I
(25:15):
don't know you at all. And it wasn't about ignoring
the kid. It was presenting perfection. And kids consents that
there's something going on with mom, so that drives mom
to therapy. The book is so good and she discovers
all this, and then it's the whole story about what
she does, which is heroic. Anyway, I'm not saying this
is all runners, but there's gotta be something that you
(25:40):
learned as a kid that your value is in besting yourself,
achieving new highs. She even said in a letter, high
a high, what is the high about? If it was
Heroine in that letter, I'd be like, easily you could say, okay,
you should obviously quit herrowin because you're chasing a high.
(26:02):
But it's harder when it's something like running or in fact, shopping.
If someone has the money to afford it, it's harder
to spot. It's harder to criticize, Oh, not going broke.
But I'm still medicating myself with this thing. So I say,
go to therapy, figure out what is going on. Your
(26:23):
boyfriend is right and what's the boyfriend's name? Did she say,
I'm just gonna make up that his name is Oscar.
I don't know why, but I am Oscar. You're right,
and you know what, cheat on her? This is what
I say. I feel that should happen because runners need
to be punished, and she needs to see what loss
is like, so she changes her ways. And by the way,
(26:45):
do you ever see these runners who eventually do learn
it's ridiculous and end up nice and plump, and you're like,
they even look better without the crippling injuries and a
little weight on them, Like they relax into who they
were meant to be. No one's meant to be a
stick figure who chases. Stop being a stick figure who chases.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Let it out.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Stop it right now, Jamie, seek help. But I love
you anyways, keep listening.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I literally had this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Do you agree with me?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I do. I had this happen last night with a friend,
like not marathons, but other shit. Awesome girl, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Girl, and she was jumping down.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean she is, that's it is. But but what
I'm and she'll kill me years, But I don't care.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Nobody listening to.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
No one's listening, But she puts a lot of value
on her looks. I mean everything right, And I was like,
I go and she said something to me, and I go,
work on yourself. She goes, I am working on myself
like I've been single. And I go that that doesn't
mean like, that doesn't mean your work. I go, I
be internally and then she was like and then literally
(27:55):
three sentences later, she goes, Oh my god, I guess
what I'm doing. It's gonna change both our like she
was joking and she's like, I'm gonna get tits.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh boy, it's so much easier for I would say
probably ninety percent of the audience to go, yeah, Nick's right,
like getting fake tits, and you know, doing all this
stuff that's external for your beauty isn't going to help
because it will never end. You will end up looking
like a science project. But it's harder to do it
with a runner because it's ostensibly healthy, Like it's it's
(28:26):
the fake healthy. So if you're drinking eight green juices
and shit in your pants, we're gonna let it go
and be like, no, that's fine, versus someone who's getting
the fake boobs or the lip implants or all that
stuff or calf implants, which I've heard of those too.
It's just like it's easier to identify the really surfacey ones.
(28:47):
But if it's something that can be disguised as wellness
and exercise, then oh the more the better. No, not
necessarily true. No. Also from a health point of view,
don't the like runners like marathon long since runners get
lots of injuries and crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Insane. I mean, any any form of exercise or anything
you do can be taken to an extreme right, going
for a two mile run once week, like you're not
gonna die.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
No, of course, I know that's moderate.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Run marathons five in a two year span. That's mentally
an iron man.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's what you say to you show us on the
doll where he touched you, Like you just go, what's happening?
Like there's some deep internal shit. I mean, I, yes,
was a huge achiever. I was always about the next
Tonight show or the next roast, or the next TV
thing or the next whatever. But I didn't physically hurt
(29:43):
myself to do it. I'm not saying it's better, but
I heated a wake up call eventually, Like when that
guy backstage at Radio City said to me next Madison
Square Garden, and instead of feeling happy about that, was like, oh,
it's never going to be enough wake up call. Someone
has to tell people it's never going to be an off.
It has to dawn on them. And uh see, this
is why I don't date. This is why I jerk
(30:04):
the bean, because I could never put up with a
guy who didn't know this stuff. You know, So I
feel bad for the boyfriend. So therefore I say cheat
next letter with me, Yes, next letter, I love.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Sorry, what a jerk, Hey Lisa, I'm Terry.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
See these all ambiguously sexual names. Hey Terry, I.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Name Terry, fifty eight years old from Columbus, and I
don't even know where to start.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Fifty eight eight gross old people.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yuck, But here it is. I'm just tired of chasing
shit that doesn't make me feel any better. My house
is full of stuff like full. You've got gadgets, clothes,
random hobby crap.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I swore, Oh my god, the fucking craft no run
away from the Michael's.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Craft Resistance bansh even a breadmaker I used once and
now just stare at like it's judging me.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It is, by the way, and.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Still I catch myself thinking maybe I just need one
more thing, Oh my god, Like if I could just
find the right couch, pillow, planner, pair of shoes, i'd
finally feel settled. But that feeling never really comes. I
just end up with more stuff to shove in the closet.
Like me, I'm not sure what I'm even looking for
(31:29):
anymore anymore, but I know it's not coming from Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, like you're looking. The thing is terry. First of all,
get out of Columbus second month now. Actually it's a
fine place. The problem with all this she she's what
is She's she's a counterear away from getting well because
she's already realizing, wow, this isn't working. This is almost
like fifty eight years old, realizes her house is full
(31:56):
of stuff, realize something has to change. She is this
close to making a change. So I think what would
be great is if she went the therapy figured out
what again she thinks all this stuff is going to
do for her. Now, people do all these crafting supplies
and these breadmakers and this they're shopping for a fantasy self.
(32:20):
So if you are not the person who bakes bread,
you think buying a bread maker will make you into
the person who bakes bread. No, it turns you into
the person with another appliance on their counter that nothing's
happening with and you just feel bad because you paid
money for it, and does mock you If you are
the person who has embroidery supplies, art supplies, crafting things, felt,
(32:44):
do you have any felt in your house? You're the
person who, Wow, my fantasy self loves crafting. But what
does your real self love. At the very basickest of
basickests of playing needs is yourself would probably like a
little dose of I don't know, quiet contentment, connection with
(33:06):
friends doing something kind of sweet. It's really not gonna
come from pretending to try to be a quilter or
a knitter. We have talked about knitting and it always
comes up because I know true knitters. Bonnie, my friend
I've talked about as the real ogene knitter, and she
(33:31):
actually gets joy fulfillment piece out of it. She even
knits in public and it brings her more peace. Well,
if I was to buy some knitting supplies, there is
no way I'd have peace. I'd have adjada, like poor
what's her name, Clammy Terry, Terry. Stop being a clam
stop shopping for the fantasy of who you are at heart.
(33:54):
You're a basic broad. You're fifty eight. I love being
on Basic two. You just want a little taste of contentment.
Start chasing that with as much fervency as you chase
the Amazon truck, and then you will be fine. I do.
(34:14):
Since she's on the cusp, though she recognizes the problem correct.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
She understands she's listing. When you start listing all the things, yeah, yeah,
and you're writing into a show like ours.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, you have problems, you're desperate, You're like, okay, yeah,
she's disclosed from her bottom, yees bottom.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It is so great when people are just about there. Yeah,
she's going to get there. And isn't it sad that
it usually comes with age because you have to f
up or experiments so much that you're like, oh, wait,
that hasn't worked for forty years.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I remember, maybe change it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
When I was dating somebody and I said to a
shrink at the time, this is years ago, and I said,
but maybe he'll change and she said, well, did it
work with the other thirteen? It's like, whoa, it did not.
You almost have to hear the innocent question and makes
you go, who better change that? Nope, but didn't stop
thinking somebody's going to change just because you want him to.
(35:07):
So Terry, I have more hope for you than Jamie,
who I don't hope has a massive heart attack running.
But maybe that's a wake up call she needs.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Next question, next letter. This is from Dan Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm assuming that's a guy. This is our first definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Guy from Hewlett, New York.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, that's all of Jeweleet. No it is. It's one
of the five towns I think out in Long Islands. Yeah,
it's definitely had a good fellas jew Brood's prejudice against
a go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Dear Lisa, Every year since my wife and I moved
into our house, she has complained and wanted to change something.
Oh boy, First we read to the bathroom, then the basement.
Then we added a wing to the house.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh god that when you're heading wings, just buy a
different house. Oh andrey.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Then a pool, then a pool house, Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Girl, what's next? An outdoor showers? Worst?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
After each one, She's happy for a minute until she
goes to a friend's house and see something else she
wants that she doesn't have. Do you think this will
ever stop no, because.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You married an aspirational cunts. I mean, because the thing is,
when you're an aspirational person, you're always again buying for
the fantasy you're getting. You're seeing what other people have
and aspiring to what they have. And guess what, if
you interviewed the people who have that, they ain't fulfilled either,
(36:42):
because ps billionaires are the least satisfied people in the world. Sadly,
our billionaires are evil, so I don't joke about them.
But it's like, if they weren't evil, I would feel
sorry for how empty they must feel to need all
that stuff, or to think they need all that stuff.
To me, the best people are the ones who live
very simply small. Dare to live in a small house,
(37:05):
dare to rent an apartment, dare to not buy the
latest new thing. So unfortunately he has to look at himself.
What was his final question? Like, how did he pose
that question at the end? Stop no, because guess what,
because you're dumb understop Dan, This is why you're dumb.
(37:26):
And I'll tell you why you knew what you were getting.
This poor woman, see, I'm not going to make her evil.
This poor aspirational cunt has said sighted she has low
self worth and only things, huge things are going to
assuage her worthlessness. So you break it. You bought it,
(37:49):
Dan in for a penny, In for a pound, You're
there for a life, motherfucker. Or you could divorce her
ass and get a poor bitch. Or you could go
to therapy and try to figure out how you too
can navigate this, because if this is gonna, I would
be driven crazy by that if somebody kept coming in,
like because with a man, it's usually like, oh, I
(38:10):
need a new iPhone, I need computer, like it's only
some game or some bullshit. They love the games. I
need a beer cozy, Yeah, yeah, I need the Marshall.
There was a I remember when I was married, there
was a portable like a little mini refrigerator that you
thought it looked like a Marshall amp and it was
really fucking cool, Like could you literally thought it was
an amp? So I bought it for Jimmy because like codependent,
(38:34):
But with men, it's usually the gadgets and things. Oh
I love a man, by the way, who just doesn't
want everything. And I feel sorry for Dan in a way,
but I also go what was in you that you
felt attracted to about that because there had to be
something he liked. Maybe he didn't have enough get up
and go. And he was like, well, she'll spur me
(38:55):
on to do better in my career, because sometimes that happens.
I remember a former man in your mind. He was like, well,
I bought the six million dollar place. I can only
afford the three million, But you want to make me
work harder, Like that's insane, it's mentally ill. And yes
he did work harder he had the house, But then
did the house ever bring you any joy? Either?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Probably not at home, but working correct?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Right, Like, I'm always thrilled when I know people who
take like a Friday off or people who like go
on vacation. Samm unreachable. Can you imagine, like, oh, I
have ten days of unreachability? So I think Dan put
it this way. You live in jewel It and you're
living with a Jewish and you gotta figure it out.
(39:40):
You gonna go crazy. Snap, you end up taking a
freaking shotgun and putting it in your fucking mouth. Let
me say hers, let me save you from that. Go
to the shrink. Why every answer is always go to
the shrink. And you know why, I think it is
because it's all inward. It's all these answers people trying
to use externals to answer, and it's really going inside
(40:03):
and not having the fear about what'll I find in there?
Usually don't find that much that's that bad.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
No, it's very well. First of all, too, it's like
everything you knew was there, you're just you're just like
holding light to it. You knew it was there. You're
not surprised, You're like, oh my god, how did that get.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It's very rare to have the repressed memory thing happen
and all that. But most people it's just going to
be like, oh, wow, I did have a mother who
was unsatisfied with everything, and that's why I married a
woman that way. And then that's not even that hard
to fix. You have to have a decent, hard conversation
with her and with yourself, but why you volunteered for it.
(40:40):
It's never going to be like, oh my god, I'm
just gonna die when I find out this thing happened.
That's very rare. So I say to this guy, put
a fucking bag overhead, kidnap a thrower in the trunk,
and get her to thing what we call you, Nick,
What do you think your title should be?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I don't assistant.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, I don't like creative assistant. That's what I did
once with my assistant, Like I I go, well, I
can't afford to give you more money, but instead of
being my assistant, we can call you my creative assistant.
She fucking bought it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
What about anal expert?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You are you an expert in anal either?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
My girlfriend in college and she just had a miserable
look on her face.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
How can you tell if the miserable look was from
the anal or just by being with you? Really?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Nah, that was pretty good back in the day. In
the day I control down, Yeah, but I just looked
uncomfortable and I was like, this is ruining everything for me.
I don't like this.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Should I try it before I die?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
If I You know, that's why I have long term
health insurance, because they pay for somebody to live in
your house with you. Maybe it's like a hot chocolate
nedy of a nurse's aide guy, and that would be
in the provisions the.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Job description with him to like just make sure.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You know frequent baths, breaks and anal.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
And it's like what towards the end of your life,
you're probably have.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
To would you sign up for this jail? Oh my god?
They went off the rails and we just came back
to say goodbye. That's what we do. I look like.
Third segment used to be something. Now it's not. It's
just basically us dicking around and talking about the anal
white Celia. What do you feel about the anal? Celia, Celia,
(42:39):
if you had had anal? No, no, no, I said, if
you had, would you admit it to us? Probably?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Really? I think so that's really nice. Probably myself, I
wouldn't cry this.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Is anal, I think for you.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I will ever that. I don't blame you. It's scary
because I mean, a big dump feels really bad. But
I just you don't understand.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Listen for for men. For men, I get it because
there's a prostate. We don't have anything up there.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Men want to do it.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Oh, men want to do it for power. It's power.
That's why Nick wanted to do it and his girlfriends
are rung.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
She just was like, this is uncomfortable. I was like, yeah,
she looked uncomfortable. I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
What I find is weirder is when guys want to
be pegged, which I and I wasn't dating when this
phenomenon happened. I didn't think it was a thing. But
now you hear about it. What's going on in the
guy's head And I don't of course. But everybody's like,
don't kink shame and I'm like, no, there's some kinks.
She should be ashamed of that infisting. I think fishing
(43:59):
when you're us is prolapsed and falling out. You probably
should stop this podcast. About one finger is enough. That's
the one we've learned today. Nick, Why don't you tell
everybody at the about the end of our show?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
All right? Guys, make sure to follow Lisa tim follow
Lisa at Lisa Lady Harp liquor follow Lisa on socials
at Lisa Lampinelli. You can follow me on socials at
(44:36):
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you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Or don't or don't I'd rather you didn't listen. We'll
learn more about ourselves and what we need internally if
people don't listen. So you know what you should do.
You should listen to all the other podcasts on iHeart
app stept offers and will learn a valuable lesson and
go back to twiddling and our Twats and scene see
(45:09):
you next week. If we told a podcast made h
Lisa Lampanelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yanta and know it
all and her words come from her head, her heart,
and often out of her ass. This podcast should not
be misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a
huge grain of salt for entertainment purposes. Only these.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You need help, You're the problems.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Come on, come do.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Go clam take a pill. I think you're insane. Do
what I say, dumb ass? Listen to me? You come on?
Are you kidding me? Enough is enough? Isn't that the truth?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I give one?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do too? You know what enough? Why am I
doing a podcast? Culturrink this with Lease Live and II?
Please email this's your questions. Just show at gmail dot
com that strength is Show at gmail dot com with
your question. Why, Nick, did I sign up to do
a podcast where I get to help others? And ostensibly
(01:19):
I know you like that word get rejection in return.
Who's helping me? No one? No one. I have to
pay for help. I don't think that's good.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm her health. It's bad.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, and even today I had to drive myself. It
was disgusting. I said, Nick, you may have to take
the wheel. Jesus take the wheel, because enough is enough,
which coincidentally is the topic of our episode today. When
(01:53):
is enough enough? And by that I mean things achievement.
I don't know, jerking off?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Maybe cock?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah? Nick, Actually Celia is here, by the way, our
beloved ish producer, Celia. This was so disgusting Nick last
week in my adult comedy class that he takes, which
is now a creativity group, just to take the pressure
off a little. Nick is like hitting heavy and hard
on this older lady in the class, but not like
(02:24):
hitting on her like he wants to fuck her, but
like just kind of like joking with her and stuff.
And I said to her after I go, Nick, man,
you gotta be more careful, like she might take offense,
and he goes, Dude, it's just like I was lifting before,
and I think I'm just horny. Give me that way.
You're like some weird nephew that I don't want to
(02:45):
think of that way. But like that's why I bring
up jerking off. When is enough enough? I may go
in for the kill maybe once a month enough, And
also when I'm done, I'm happy. I don't mean that
way I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Mean, I don't mean fulfilled.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I mean I'm like, when is this thing going to end?
Let's go. I have things to do, so no, no,
I'm just like, let's go like I do. But anyway,
in the old guitar there no, no, no, that's banjo
would have been better saved year off. Today you're already
(03:25):
on my nerve. No I know who isn't. But anyway,
I got to think, and because I've been following a
lot of influence not actually influencers, they call themselves de influencers,
to like, have you buy less stuff? And I started
thinking about it's never fucking enough. First of all, I
when I'm scrolling on the TikTok, I will if anything
(03:46):
says shop, I scroll immediately. If it says links for
sale and sizing, I scroll. I don't want to buy
more stuff. And I'm like, why isn't anything ever enough?
With people? It's I need the one last item of clothing,
that one style of jeans, that one lip gloss. It's like, bitch,
(04:07):
your lip gloss is not going to change your life.
And by the way, just like stop it. Learn from
lesbians don't wear makeup. That's like how I feel logie
as a sixty three year old non influencer myself. But Nick,
do you ever get caught in the trap of like,
oh my god, I'm always chasing something. It's like I
(04:27):
read a quote once where she said, which I loved
this quote, how I hate the word lovely, but I'll
allow it for this quote. How lovely is it to
be chasing nothing and running from nothing? The whole idea
is that as every time we buy something we don't need,
(04:48):
or get another degree, or get another you know, run
another race, whatever it is, we're running from something or
we're chasing something, and neither one feels very great. Are
you ever a victim of this?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I don't know. Back to it real quick. I want
to talk about when you're going.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Through tricket off.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah. Do you ever go to TikTok and you're like,
I'm gonna flick my bean?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, there's ever anybody hot on my TikTok. I think
I got TikTok. A few times they'll send me like
a hot gay, but I will never like because they
think I'm a gay guy. I'm okay, they know I'm
a gay guy, but I'm like, I feel weird flicking
it to uh, a gay. I just think I'm abusing them.
(05:30):
I feel like, against their will, I'm doing an act
that they would not lovely. Maybe they would appreciate it,
maybe for because for the for like if you watch
a minute, I guess they get money. I don't know
how this thing works. I don't know. People have creator
things and yeah, is it like if you watch it
for a full minute, you help.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, it's like a creator fund. So like if you
applied for the creator fund, then you get accepted and
you have like a minute it to make your money.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So if I do my monthly spanking to a guy
who's a gay, I'm actually an activist and an ally. Yeah,
because I'm really big. If you're shrumming the old ladyman,
you I mean, and we're talking monthly, it is not
a lot. I'm thinking if I had a guess for you, Nick,
let's just go back on that topic, I would guess
(06:21):
like three times a.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Day for you a day?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, you're insane, really never colleging.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Okay, now I'm thirty seven years old.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, twice a week, maybe that's it. Yeah, man, what
about you, Cilia, I don't do that. Oh my god,
that's what I used to say to I rarely do it.
I once, it's so funny. I didn't do it for
probably ten years because I went through menopause. I wasn't
on hormone therapy replacement. I was just like, oh, great,
Like I don't have a sex drive. It keeps me
(06:51):
from fucking awful guys. This is fantastic. But then I
started going on hormones just to get all the levels right,
and I started getting a tiny bit randy. If Phil's
a so I said to my shrink, I go, eh,
these kids, because she's only thirty two or something. I'm like,
these kids, they they have the vibrators. I don't need
any of that. And she goes, honey, it's not that
(07:15):
you need it, but you want it. Like so, she's like,
you don't get a vibrator because you need it, You
get it because you have the desire for it. I said,
I can't even search for one. Does Amazon sell them?
I don't know. I got over it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Doctor sounds hot.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
What's she's she's queer?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
How's her lady harp doing?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's pretty good with the ladies.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She's gay?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, sorry, she always hits on old and gay people
can be a woman. So any way back to it,
do you feel like you have that chasing and that
chasing and that chasing You've definitely experienced.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That for sure. I would say with stuff not as much.
Like if we're talking about like clothes and things like that,
I talking about getting hard. I get hard when I
throw things out, Like I love getting rid of shit.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh we are so the opposite.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I love getting rid of things that I don't need,
you know what I mean, just like a good Will
run twice a year where I'm like, what the fuck
is this doing here? Like I love getting rid of it.
In that regard as far as chasing things, I don't
like people have come over and I have this like
new apartment has a nice walking closet, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh my god, you almost like it. You have a
it's like you're a minimalist. Not because you're a minimalist,
but because you're poor. Yeah, it's like self imposed minimalism.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But also that's like a very clean, elegant way to live.
I just think like the emotional thing behind over consumption
and just buying too much, it's just constantly running to
something and from something. So I remember I was doing
a retreat over New Year's Eve, and I said to
the that monk running the retreat, I was like, oh,
(09:00):
I feel like I'm running from I always feel like
I can't stop running. And he just goes, what are
you running from? And I just like burst into tears,
and I'm like, well, that clearly hit a nerve where
I'm definitely running from something. And it's not like I
have a repressed memory of childhood abuse or things like that,
but I'm running from I think worthlessness. So it's all
(09:23):
about am I worthy? Am I lovable? Am I someone
who can be loved or thought of as a friend
or whatever. And it's like, oh, but clicking the you know,
flair jeans from GANI inside joke is going to fix me. Well,
(09:45):
it fixes you intil the box arrives and then you're
kind of happy you open it and these try mind
and you're kind of happy you wear them once, and
it's like the law of diminishing returns. Now I need
that dopamine hit again. Which, oh, I need those in
the other color. Like I just bought three pairs. I
just bought three, no four pairs of H and M
(10:06):
second hand. Don't worry, I'm not going back on my
sustainability barrel leg jeans, which I love in four different colors,
because God forbid, you'd be able to not have the
light wash, which, by the way, you'll never wear because
no one ever wears light wash because they look like shit,
they're basically white. But you have to have them. And
(10:28):
by the way, I shouldn't say yeah, I had to
have them, and I'm like, oh, what was I trying
to fill that day? What was I trying to fill?
It wasn't the jeans. It's never the thing that's the
sad thing. It's never the thing. I mean, achievements, the
same thing you'd sell out won't say in your world
you sell out a Deli's, you sell out one place.
(10:55):
And again, I talked to comics all the time who
are like, like, what's your goal, And every one of them,
to a fault, will say, look, it's not like I
have to be famous or anything. I just like I
have to you know, but I love to make a
living from comedy, like you know what a headline of
comedy club, And in my head, I go, yeah, until
you do, and then it's gonna be the next thing,
and the next thing and next thing until it's like
(11:16):
you're just confronted with, Oh, it's never gonna be enough.
Radio City isn't enough, Madison Square Garden isn't enough, and
you're chasing some dream that you think is gonna give
you peace. I think that's the key. You never get
peace from any of this stuff. You get highs and lows,
and that's the opposite of peace.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I go back and forth on this a lot. This
is something I actually discussed this past week with with
my therapist. I was just talking about how like, when
I look back over the last seven years it we'll
say comedy in particular, or really anywhere in my life,
just career wise, the money I make everything the last
seven years or so has just gone consistently up and
(11:58):
they're progressing m m. And it's great. But then there
are moments where I'm like, should I be doing more?
Like I'm right, should be doing more. But everything's everything's
moving up, nothing's going backwards, nothing's getting worse. You're making
more money at work, you're making money from comedy, you're
getting better opportunities, like it's all going in the right direction.
(12:18):
Then I'm like, no, but I gotta you know this
one thing, like it's like almost like I'm looking for something.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I call you when I call that, And I had
it written down last year in the front of my
calendar because I'm still old school. I use old fashioned
paper calendar, and I wrote right on the first page,
so I see it every day. Quit making trouble in
your own life. So it's like everything's going contentedly along.
But then I got to make trouble. Because if we're
(12:44):
raised in a household, which you know, emotionally, we both
were emotionally, you know, immature parents. They did the best
they could. We're used to upheaval. Like we love drama.
We say we hate it, but every time you say
drama you hate drama probably means you fucking love it.
So when I'm like feeling a little too calm, that's
(13:07):
real unfamiliar, Like when's the last time I felt really calm,
It's like, oh, let me make some trouble. So Nick's
going along playing the the uh, you know, the brewery
down the street. So yeah, seventeen tickets an Irish Saint
Patty's Day and playing his lady harp to beat the band.
(13:31):
And then instead of going home and having that peaceful wow,
wasn't that nice? It's like, oh, that wasn't enough. What's next?
What's next? Cause we're not familiar with the feeling of
it just being fine.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah. I had that last summer where like I read
a personal finance book and I was like getting my
shit together money wise, and it was calm for three
months and it was like really nice. Yeah, and then
I get a case of what I like to call
the fuckets and you're like, yeah, but I want to
do this, I want to say no to that, and
then yeah, and then you dig yourself into a little
bit of hole and you're like.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Ah, well, then it was all fine. But the things
you were saying yes too, were they actually things that
they could have been fun or whatever? But did they
bring you I'm not gonna even say joy. Did they
bring you the piece that you wanted? Or was it
the three months that it was solid the more peaceful.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Did it bring me peace? Doing all the things didn't
bring me? A lot of it is bullshit things too
that I like, just I get it. You make the
justification in the moment that you're like I need this,
gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What's an example, Well, A big one for me is
ordering food out bats that's a big deal where it's like,
well I don't have lunch, da, what am I to do?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Like eat?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I gotta order right right? How about those three fricking
eight hundred pound chickens you got at the house that
you're buying bulk because you think you're bulking up?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I am, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're getting a little good No, I know you're getting
some protein and day looking good. No, But it's like
it doesn't. Yeah, it just brings you more of that thing,
more stress. And it's like if we could recognize it's
so advanced, it's so freaking hard to do, Like even
at this age, it's so hard to be like, oh,
I notice that flutter the where is it in my body?
(15:16):
Where is that that signal to just pause? You don't
need that? Do you want it? Maybe you don't even
want it. Maybe you want what you actually want, which
is connection or community or you know, a phone call
or just quiet like who knows. But it's never the thing.
(15:39):
That thing never does bring the peace. No, So I
think we fuck with our own lives, and this is
an easy way to do it because it's a quick
hit of whatever dopamine makes us feel, which is like, oh,
I'm on a high. I just order the cute issues
and I'm like, yeah, they're coming in.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's so cue. Do you have those?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know, it's just like bad.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah. I don't know what's the uh. I mean, we'll
get into this later in the episode, but like, I
don't know, like what's the remedy for that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I think it's basically doing getting the wake up call
in the moment. So, for instance, I told the story
I think where my shrink. I was complaining to my
shrink about not having enough community, and she just very
calmly said, oh, what will be enough? And I go,
It'll never be enough. I'm more than where that. It's not.
(16:27):
It is already enough. What I have is more than
most people. So it's basically within me to notice that
and go, it's a story. I'm telling myself that I
need those shoes. I do not need anything. No one
needs anything. Oh wait, where am I feeling the lack
of connection? Is it in my heart? Is in my throat?
Where is it? Like we do in therapy and be like, oh,
(16:50):
let me work on that. And sitting with that uncomfortableness,
sitting with the uncomfortableness of not pressing by now is
obviously going to get us much more more peace than
buying now. So same thing with like you get a
call to do like in the old days of roast
or a podcast or whatever it is TV show, Oh
(17:12):
my god, well, yes, yes, of course, and then wouldn't
it be nice to sit with it? Go do I
really want this? Is this something that really will bring
me peace and joy? Probably not. I probably probably would
retired like ten years earlier, because I've been like, oh,
that's not as joyful as it was, and it used
to be really full of fun and joy, but now
(17:34):
it's kind of like, not gonna get through it that way.
And this isn't saying like, oh, all you have to
do is quit everything, buy nothing and become like an
expert in meditation or going on retreats. You can overdo
with that stuff too. You could sign up for one
retreat a month and be like, oh, yes, so then
I'm gonna work on this, and then I'm gonna work
on that. And it's all just a distraction from not
wanting to feel uncomfortable on the inside. I think we're
(17:56):
all just running from feelings constantly.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, I think, I guess. I guess the answer is
just working on yourself right and just making yourself comfortable
with being because I've done this my whole life. It's
a series of ups and downs, and you just wonder like,
is this ever gonna nope, kept better or we're just
gonna We're just gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
At almost twice your age. No, And really you'll wake
up some mornings you're just like, oh my god, like
I thought this was over with. I thought this I
didn't have to work on this, and then something else happened,
and then you're just like, oh, I guess this is
acceptance of life.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
What what part of it or how much of it
do you think is? It's like someone wanting to stay stuck,
like maybe getting themselves stuck in the same routine, or
like they say it's spending money, or say it's whatever,
and it's like they play the there's a million examples
of this, but they just do the just they keep
telling themselves the same story over and over again, or
they keep acting out the same story over and over again.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
All that stuff I thinks stuckness, they say, is all fear,
fear of the unknown. So we're say you and I
had grown up in bollatle households, and we're we're scared
of what peace full like union of two people might
look like. What is it if it's not fighting? What
(19:20):
is it if it's not death? What is it if
it's not you know, everyone yelling at each other? Oh shit,
I might as well stay stuck in this, you know,
weird volatile marriage or relationship or friendship that's up and down,
up and down because the peace on the other side.
And I hate when people do this. They're like, oh
my god, I love up and down. It's so boring
(19:41):
to not go up and down. No, it's fucking not fun. Like,
it's not boring just to be at peace, because the
few moments I'll get of it, I'm like, Oh, this
is what it feels like. Why was I running from
this and just noticing it and going, oh wow, I
can actually change this and it's not as scary. Again,
(20:03):
the devil we know better than the angel. We don't
know which sucks.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It does suck, I know. That's like I always think, like,
what what if I Cause I've gotten into debt here
and there and I always get out, But like, what
if I just stayed out and build up a savings.
But then the new scary thing would be, well, and
now I have all the savings, should do I have
to buy?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
How?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What do I do now?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But yeah, the decision fatigue would come on and.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Be like, all right, I'm here now, and then what now?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
What I know? And I think it's all that thing
of going I guess I'll learn then, Like basically, like
I'm you and I've both got a lot of relationships
with boyfriend's girlfriends or whatever. They weren't all horrible, but
they weren't so great that you would want it to
continue forever. Right, must be pretty fucking scary to be
(20:51):
with somebody and take the chance and go ooh, it
feels kind of peaceful. Are we boring? Is it okay
to like just sit and watch a movie? Oh my god,
we're boring. We're those people now, It's yeah, it's like
you don't do anything. The best is when you just
sit there. So I think it's like all those the
fear of unknown is so overpowering. People just won't break
(21:12):
out of it, which I get it, you know. I
just think we don't change because we want to. It's
because we have to. So you have to be in
such a bad relationship that you leave, you have to
go in so much debt with useless purchases that didn't
bring you any peace, that you go, whoop, I gotta
(21:32):
change my ways. So it would be good to notice
it before you had a change, before it was that
urgent that you burn bridges and that your bankrupts and
all this other stuff. You know, and don't worry your salary.
You'll never make enough money for a house.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, by the way, I love how like we got
right into it. And I didn't even say who you are.
But people shouldn't know by now. Yeah, yeah, where way
do you find your Nick?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You can find me on Poshmark, buy my sweaters. I
make no Nick scopes on Instagram and tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But also, what's great, you guys, here's what to do.
I don't want Nick to get that fake dopamine hit
from getting additional followers. If you already follow Nick, go
on and unfollow him. And also if you if you
don't follow him, just don't and then let him not
(22:26):
get that dopamine and see how much peace there is
in ten followers. I think that would be right and
it would be good for your personal growth. I insist
people you can't listen if you follow.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Nick Anyway, this is Shrink This with Lisa Lampinelli, and
we're going to answer some viewer questions about this topic.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm thirty six years old and I have ran five
marathons two years. Wait Lisa's favorite.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Wait wait, five marathons in two years. Okay, you're mentally ill,
but I will reserve judgment.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Go beating my best time in each one. It's called achievement, Lisa,
look it up.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, this bitch is damn it. How should your father
hate you?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh? Man, I know I love the high of pushing
through the high and just sign up for my first
oh my god, my first iron Man race.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh. If this is a woman, you should be ashamed.
Your periods are gonna stop and your tits are gonna
get hot as rocks.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, like my well minorsoft. But uh Now, for those
who don't know it's an iron Man, this is in
the question. It's a full marathon on top of it
one hundred and twelve mile bike ride.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's something wrong with you.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
In a two point four mile swim.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
That's what iron Man is for everyone. It's I know
people do him.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's insane, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
My boyfriend thinks I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, because guess what bitch you are?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And then I'm never going to be satisfied no matter
how hard I think. It's a healthy passion. Do you
let me answer for Lisa saying you.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
God therapy, I mean, talk about what you're running from.
Like literally, now, I'm not saying this happened to dear Jamie,
but there is a best seller out right now. Do
not read it if you're triggered bi sexual assault. It
is called Amy Griffin's The Tell, and it is literally
(24:31):
about a woman who all she did was run. Sounds
exactly like this woman. I'm not saying this is Jamie,
but this woman Amy was running from something and through therapy,
finds out what it is. And it's horrifying what happened
to her. But she could never figure out why she
was always literally running and figuratively running. Always had to
(24:53):
be perfect and everything, had to always make things look easy,
had to be perfect mom, perfect wife, perfect everything, and
her kid one day says to her, talk about oh,
just in alignment with like what you're supposed to do?
Nine year old kid said to her Mommy, I don't
feel like I know you. You're always perfect, but I
(25:15):
don't know you at all. And it wasn't about ignoring
the kid. It was presenting perfection. And kids consents that
there's something going on with mom, so that drives mom
to therapy. The book is so good and she discovers
all this, and then it's the whole story about what
she does, which is heroic. Anyway, I'm not saying this
is all runners, but there's gotta be something that you
(25:40):
learned as a kid that your value is in besting yourself,
achieving new highs. She even said in a letter, high
a high, what is the high about? If it was
Heroine in that letter, I'd be like, easily you could say, okay,
you should obviously quit herrowin because you're chasing a high.
(26:02):
But it's harder when it's something like running or in fact, shopping.
If someone has the money to afford it, it's harder
to spot. It's harder to criticize, Oh, not going broke.
But I'm still medicating myself with this thing. So I say,
go to therapy, figure out what is going on. Your
(26:23):
boyfriend is right and what's the boyfriend's name? Did she say,
I'm just gonna make up that his name is Oscar.
I don't know why, but I am Oscar. You're right,
and you know what, cheat on her? This is what
I say. I feel that should happen because runners need
to be punished, and she needs to see what loss
is like, so she changes her ways. And by the way,
(26:45):
do you ever see these runners who eventually do learn
it's ridiculous and end up nice and plump, and you're like,
they even look better without the crippling injuries and a
little weight on them, Like they relax into who they
were meant to be. No one's meant to be a
stick figure who chases. Stop being a stick figure who chases.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Let it out.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Stop it right now, Jamie, seek help. But I love
you anyways, keep listening.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I literally had this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Do you agree with me?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I do. I had this happen last night with a friend,
like not marathons, but other shit. Awesome girl, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Girl, and she was jumping down.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean she is, that's it is. But but what
I'm and she'll kill me years, But I don't care.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Nobody listening to.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
No one's listening, But she puts a lot of value
on her looks. I mean everything right, And I was like,
I go and she said something to me, and I go,
work on yourself. She goes, I am working on myself
like I've been single. And I go that that doesn't
mean like, that doesn't mean your work. I go, I
be internally and then she was like and then literally
(27:55):
three sentences later, she goes, Oh my god, I guess
what I'm doing. It's gonna change both our like she
was joking and she's like, I'm gonna get tits.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh boy, it's so much easier for I would say
probably ninety percent of the audience to go, yeah, Nick's right,
like getting fake tits, and you know, doing all this
stuff that's external for your beauty isn't going to help
because it will never end. You will end up looking
like a science project. But it's harder to do it
with a runner because it's ostensibly healthy, Like it's it's
(28:26):
the fake healthy. So if you're drinking eight green juices
and shit in your pants, we're gonna let it go
and be like, no, that's fine, versus someone who's getting
the fake boobs or the lip implants or all that
stuff or calf implants, which I've heard of those too.
It's just like it's easier to identify the really surfacey ones.
(28:47):
But if it's something that can be disguised as wellness
and exercise, then oh the more the better. No, not
necessarily true. No. Also from a health point of view,
don't the like runners like marathon long since runners get
lots of injuries and crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Insane. I mean, any any form of exercise or anything
you do can be taken to an extreme right, going
for a two mile run once week, like you're not
gonna die.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
No, of course, I know that's moderate.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Run marathons five in a two year span. That's mentally
an iron man.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's what you say to you show us on the
doll where he touched you, Like you just go, what's happening?
Like there's some deep internal shit. I mean, I, yes,
was a huge achiever. I was always about the next
Tonight show or the next roast, or the next TV
thing or the next whatever. But I didn't physically hurt
(29:43):
myself to do it. I'm not saying it's better, but
I heated a wake up call eventually, Like when that
guy backstage at Radio City said to me next Madison
Square Garden, and instead of feeling happy about that, was like, oh,
it's never going to be enough wake up call. Someone
has to tell people it's never going to be an off.
It has to dawn on them. And uh see, this
is why I don't date. This is why I jerk
(30:04):
the bean, because I could never put up with a
guy who didn't know this stuff. You know, So I
feel bad for the boyfriend. So therefore I say cheat
next letter with me, Yes, next letter, I love.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Sorry, what a jerk, Hey Lisa, I'm Terry.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
See these all ambiguously sexual names. Hey Terry, I.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Name Terry, fifty eight years old from Columbus, and I
don't even know where to start.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Fifty eight eight gross old people.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yuck, But here it is. I'm just tired of chasing
shit that doesn't make me feel any better. My house
is full of stuff like full. You've got gadgets, clothes,
random hobby crap.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I swore, Oh my god, the fucking craft no run
away from the Michael's.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Craft Resistance bansh even a breadmaker I used once and
now just stare at like it's judging me.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It is, by the way, and.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Still I catch myself thinking maybe I just need one
more thing, Oh my god, Like if I could just
find the right couch, pillow, planner, pair of shoes, i'd
finally feel settled. But that feeling never really comes. I
just end up with more stuff to shove in the closet.
Like me, I'm not sure what I'm even looking for
(31:29):
anymore anymore, but I know it's not coming from Amazon.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, like you're looking. The thing is terry. First of all,
get out of Columbus second month now. Actually it's a
fine place. The problem with all this she she's what
is She's she's a counterear away from getting well because
she's already realizing, wow, this isn't working. This is almost
like fifty eight years old, realizes her house is full
(31:56):
of stuff, realize something has to change. She is this
close to making a change. So I think what would
be great is if she went the therapy figured out
what again she thinks all this stuff is going to
do for her. Now, people do all these crafting supplies
and these breadmakers and this they're shopping for a fantasy self.
(32:20):
So if you are not the person who bakes bread,
you think buying a bread maker will make you into
the person who bakes bread. No, it turns you into
the person with another appliance on their counter that nothing's
happening with and you just feel bad because you paid
money for it, and does mock you If you are
the person who has embroidery supplies, art supplies, crafting things, felt,
(32:44):
do you have any felt in your house? You're the
person who, Wow, my fantasy self loves crafting. But what
does your real self love. At the very basickest of
basickests of playing needs is yourself would probably like a
little dose of I don't know, quiet contentment, connection with
(33:06):
friends doing something kind of sweet. It's really not gonna
come from pretending to try to be a quilter or
a knitter. We have talked about knitting and it always
comes up because I know true knitters. Bonnie, my friend
I've talked about as the real ogene knitter, and she
(33:31):
actually gets joy fulfillment piece out of it. She even
knits in public and it brings her more peace. Well,
if I was to buy some knitting supplies, there is
no way I'd have peace. I'd have adjada, like poor
what's her name, Clammy Terry, Terry. Stop being a clam
stop shopping for the fantasy of who you are at heart.
(33:54):
You're a basic broad. You're fifty eight. I love being
on Basic two. You just want a little taste of contentment.
Start chasing that with as much fervency as you chase
the Amazon truck, and then you will be fine. I do.
(34:14):
Since she's on the cusp, though she recognizes the problem correct.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
She understands she's listing. When you start listing all the things, yeah, yeah,
and you're writing into a show like ours.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, you have problems, you're desperate, You're like, okay, yeah,
she's disclosed from her bottom, yees bottom.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It is so great when people are just about there. Yeah,
she's going to get there. And isn't it sad that
it usually comes with age because you have to f
up or experiments so much that you're like, oh, wait,
that hasn't worked for forty years.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I remember, maybe change it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
When I was dating somebody and I said to a
shrink at the time, this is years ago, and I said,
but maybe he'll change and she said, well, did it
work with the other thirteen? It's like, whoa, it did not.
You almost have to hear the innocent question and makes
you go, who better change that? Nope, but didn't stop
thinking somebody's going to change just because you want him to.
(35:07):
So Terry, I have more hope for you than Jamie,
who I don't hope has a massive heart attack running.
But maybe that's a wake up call she needs.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Next question, next letter. This is from Dan Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm assuming that's a guy. This is our first definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Guy from Hewlett, New York.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, that's all of Jeweleet. No it is. It's one
of the five towns I think out in Long Islands. Yeah,
it's definitely had a good fellas jew Brood's prejudice against
a go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Dear Lisa, Every year since my wife and I moved
into our house, she has complained and wanted to change something.
Oh boy, First we read to the bathroom, then the basement.
Then we added a wing to the house.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh god that when you're heading wings, just buy a
different house. Oh andrey.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Then a pool, then a pool house, Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Girl, what's next? An outdoor showers? Worst?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
After each one, She's happy for a minute until she
goes to a friend's house and see something else she
wants that she doesn't have. Do you think this will
ever stop no, because.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You married an aspirational cunts. I mean, because the thing is,
when you're an aspirational person, you're always again buying for
the fantasy you're getting. You're seeing what other people have
and aspiring to what they have. And guess what, if
you interviewed the people who have that, they ain't fulfilled either,
(36:42):
because ps billionaires are the least satisfied people in the world. Sadly,
our billionaires are evil, so I don't joke about them.
But it's like, if they weren't evil, I would feel
sorry for how empty they must feel to need all
that stuff, or to think they need all that stuff.
To me, the best people are the ones who live
very simply small. Dare to live in a small house,
(37:05):
dare to rent an apartment, dare to not buy the
latest new thing. So unfortunately he has to look at himself.
What was his final question? Like, how did he pose
that question at the end? Stop no, because guess what,
because you're dumb understop Dan, This is why you're dumb.
(37:26):
And I'll tell you why you knew what you were getting.
This poor woman, see, I'm not going to make her evil.
This poor aspirational cunt has said sighted she has low
self worth and only things, huge things are going to
assuage her worthlessness. So you break it. You bought it,
(37:49):
Dan in for a penny, In for a pound, You're
there for a life, motherfucker. Or you could divorce her
ass and get a poor bitch. Or you could go
to therapy and try to figure out how you too
can navigate this, because if this is gonna, I would
be driven crazy by that if somebody kept coming in,
like because with a man, it's usually like, oh, I
(38:10):
need a new iPhone, I need computer, like it's only
some game or some bullshit. They love the games. I
need a beer cozy, Yeah, yeah, I need the Marshall.
There was a I remember when I was married, there
was a portable like a little mini refrigerator that you
thought it looked like a Marshall amp and it was
really fucking cool, Like could you literally thought it was
an amp? So I bought it for Jimmy because like codependent,
(38:34):
But with men, it's usually the gadgets and things. Oh
I love a man, by the way, who just doesn't
want everything. And I feel sorry for Dan in a way,
but I also go what was in you that you
felt attracted to about that because there had to be
something he liked. Maybe he didn't have enough get up
and go. And he was like, well, she'll spur me
(38:55):
on to do better in my career, because sometimes that happens.
I remember a former man in your mind. He was like, well,
I bought the six million dollar place. I can only
afford the three million, But you want to make me
work harder, Like that's insane, it's mentally ill. And yes
he did work harder he had the house, But then
did the house ever bring you any joy? Either?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Probably not at home, but working correct?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Right, Like, I'm always thrilled when I know people who
take like a Friday off or people who like go
on vacation. Samm unreachable. Can you imagine, like, oh, I
have ten days of unreachability? So I think Dan put
it this way. You live in jewel It and you're
living with a Jewish and you gotta figure it out.
(39:40):
You gonna go crazy. Snap, you end up taking a
freaking shotgun and putting it in your fucking mouth. Let
me say hers, let me save you from that. Go
to the shrink. Why every answer is always go to
the shrink. And you know why, I think it is
because it's all inward. It's all these answers people trying
to use externals to answer, and it's really going inside
(40:03):
and not having the fear about what'll I find in there?
Usually don't find that much that's that bad.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
No, it's very well. First of all, too, it's like
everything you knew was there, you're just you're just like
holding light to it. You knew it was there. You're
not surprised, You're like, oh my god, how did that get.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It's very rare to have the repressed memory thing happen
and all that. But most people it's just going to
be like, oh, wow, I did have a mother who
was unsatisfied with everything, and that's why I married a
woman that way. And then that's not even that hard
to fix. You have to have a decent, hard conversation
with her and with yourself, but why you volunteered for it.
(40:40):
It's never going to be like, oh my god, I'm
just gonna die when I find out this thing happened.
That's very rare. So I say to this guy, put
a fucking bag overhead, kidnap a thrower in the trunk,
and get her to thing what we call you, Nick,
What do you think your title should be?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I don't assistant.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, I don't like creative assistant. That's what I did
once with my assistant, Like I I go, well, I
can't afford to give you more money, but instead of
being my assistant, we can call you my creative assistant.
She fucking bought it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
What about anal expert?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You are you an expert in anal either?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
My girlfriend in college and she just had a miserable
look on her face.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
How can you tell if the miserable look was from
the anal or just by being with you? Really?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Nah, that was pretty good back in the day. In
the day I control down, Yeah, but I just looked
uncomfortable and I was like, this is ruining everything for me.
I don't like this.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Should I try it before I die?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
If I You know, that's why I have long term
health insurance, because they pay for somebody to live in
your house with you. Maybe it's like a hot chocolate
nedy of a nurse's aide guy, and that would be
in the provisions the.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Job description with him to like just make sure.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You know frequent baths, breaks and anal.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
And it's like what towards the end of your life,
you're probably have.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
To would you sign up for this jail? Oh my god?
They went off the rails and we just came back
to say goodbye. That's what we do. I look like.
Third segment used to be something. Now it's not. It's
just basically us dicking around and talking about the anal
white Celia. What do you feel about the anal? Celia, Celia,
(42:39):
if you had had anal? No, no, no, I said, if
you had, would you admit it to us? Probably?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Really? I think so that's really nice. Probably myself, I
wouldn't cry this.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Is anal, I think for you.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I will ever that. I don't blame you. It's scary
because I mean, a big dump feels really bad. But
I just you don't understand.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Listen for for men. For men, I get it because
there's a prostate. We don't have anything up there.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Men want to do it.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Oh, men want to do it for power. It's power.
That's why Nick wanted to do it and his girlfriends
are rung.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
She just was like, this is uncomfortable. I was like, yeah,
she looked uncomfortable. I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
What I find is weirder is when guys want to
be pegged, which I and I wasn't dating when this
phenomenon happened. I didn't think it was a thing. But
now you hear about it. What's going on in the
guy's head And I don't of course. But everybody's like,
don't kink shame and I'm like, no, there's some kinks.
She should be ashamed of that infisting. I think fishing
(43:59):
when you're us is prolapsed and falling out. You probably
should stop this podcast. About one finger is enough. That's
the one we've learned today. Nick, Why don't you tell
everybody at the about the end of our show?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
All right? Guys, make sure to follow Lisa tim follow
Lisa at Lisa Lady Harp liquor follow Lisa on socials
at Lisa Lampinelli. You can follow me on socials at
(44:36):
Nick Scopes, on TikTok and Instagram. Make sure to listen
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you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Or don't or don't I'd rather you didn't listen. We'll
learn more about ourselves and what we need internally if
people don't listen. So you know what you should do.
You should listen to all the other podcasts on iHeart
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