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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On Titty's episode, we're
going to get into the untimely death of Kelly Clarkson's husband.
Brandy Glanville's face is back in the news this week,
so we're going to talk about that. Another weird accident
on a cruise, fake doctor who is doing home genital exams,
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a teen who went missing and texted his mom for
help before being found dead, and a viral video of
a woman's drassic face change during pregnancy. All that and
more on Titty's episode, Let's get started with Brandon Blackstone,
who is Kelly Clarkson's ex husband.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, so you just made the same exact error I
know I'm gonna make is that his last name is
black Stock, but I think also saying black Stone, and
when I was writing my notes, I just kept writing
black Stone instead of black Stock.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's like this.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Weird error we're both making. But last week, Kelly Clarkson
posted that she was postponing her Vegas residency to be
with her kids because their father, her ex husband, was sick,
and that kind of shocked everybody because she doesn't really
often share her personal life. And the very next day
reports came out that he died.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, it's really sad because he's only forty eight, right, So,
and they said he was battling it for three years.
So just imagine getting diagnosed with something. I mean, that's
how old I am. It's just devastating to get some
kind of diagnosis like that. So I first I thought
it was actually kind of weird because I don't know
who these people are really, but I do remember, I mean,
(02:01):
she was like an American Idol person or one of
those types of people, like where did she come from?
She came from American Idol, but and she had like
the most probably I would say she had the most
successful career coming from that show.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And she was very successful.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean I heard her songs and stuff. It's
just it's not my kup of tea. But like, I
know who she is. So I just remember vaguely hearing
in the news over the past couple of years that
she was getting divorced and it seemed that it was
it was like really messy.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Right, Well, this is what's really interesting. So her agent
was her ex husband's father, initially, so his name was
Narvel black Sock and he was married to Riba for years.
I think like over twenty years they ever married. So
him and Riba ended up getting divorced because she Riba
said that their marriage was basically all business, like all
(02:56):
he could ever talk about was business. I assume he
was managing her as well. So I find this really
interesting because Brandon Blacksog ended up managing Kelly Clarkson at
some point in their marriage, and it seemed like he
was doing the same deal, like making a bunch of
deals without her consent, charging her a lot of fees
behind the scenes that she wasn't aware of until seemingly
after they got divorced, or maybe that came to light,
(03:18):
and that's why they got divorced, because she was like,
you're taking advantage of me, and you're my husband and
we have children together. But they got divorced in twenty twenty,
and after that it was just so contentious. He was
trying to get all this money from her. She had
to pay him this slump sum of over a million dollars,
and then she had to pay him this astronomical spousal
support on top of child support. Then a couple of
(03:41):
years ago. He ended up owing her all this money
because they proved that he was charging her an excessive
amount of fees when brokering deals for her.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's been a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't understand how he's charging her fees if they're married, Like,
isn't it all the same?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well? I guess not, because a typical agent fee would
be like ten percent of deal. And if he's broker
in the deals. Think about if Gabe was brokering deals
for you, would you assume he was maybe charging you
fifteen or twenty percent, not the average ten percent. You
want to think the money's all going to at the
same place, isn't it? But it is like if he
if he was charging me fifty percent, like it still
(04:17):
would be his money. I don't know whatever. I don't
get involved. I have no idea how people that have
money like that live. But regardless, like that's all I remember.
And then I was thinking, like God, this all was
going down when he went cancer, when he was going
through this cancer, but apparently it didn't happen until after
(04:38):
they were divorced. I guess, Well, so they're saying he
was privately battling it for three years. So let's say
he got diagnosed in twenty twenty two, I mean in
twenty twenty three, December of twenty three, that's when he
was issued to pay her over two point five million dollars.
So like their legal problems were going on into his diagnosis,
but maybe at that time they didn't know how severe
(04:58):
it was.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, so let's let's talk a little bit about the
cancer he has, which was which is melanoma. So it's
a it's I wouldn't consider it to be a rare
skin cancer, but it's not as common as other types
of skin cancer.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And it's been in the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We've definitely talked about it on Mother No's death often
because of Teddy Mellancamp. She has stage four melanoma.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Chloe Kardashian had had it removed. She had a pretty
large resection done on her face for melanoma. And when
you get diagnosed with it initially, if you get it
taken out and it's very local, which means it's just
in that area where they cut it out and they
get it all out, you have a very high chance
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of surviving it. And at that time it's not considered
to be a bad cancer. But once it spreads, if
you do not catch it early on, it's it's one
of the worst cancers. So that's an important thing when
you see any kind of abnormal lesion on your skin,
that you should go get it checked out right away,
(06:07):
because they're earlier that you get it taken care of
the better. So I didn't even know who this guy is,
and I just looked at a picture of him because
I wanted to see if he fit the classic person
that you would think has the most increased chance of melanoma,
someone like my son in law Ricky, who's like a
(06:27):
pale ginger with body freckles and red hair, is like
the people that are most common demographic.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, just like people that have.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Especially people that have light hair, like blonde, blue eyes,
white skin, they're at the most increased risk of it.
And then secondly, men who are over fifty years old
are at the highest risk of it too. So this
guy got diagnosed when he was forty five, so he's
kind of a little young. But melanoma is also one
of the most common cancers that occur in younger people.
(06:59):
So we even knew a kid that had a lesion
removed and it was pre cancerous at like ten years old,
so it could happen. It's not that it doesn't happen.
But her husband is he's fairly light skin, but he
has more of my coloring like he's he doesn't look
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like the typical super white boy kind of. He's got
dark eyes and he's got dark hair, so he doesn't
look like the classic person that would be at the
highest risk for melanoma. Secondly, I look at him, and
he doesn't look like a sun worshiper. He doesn't look
like he has sun damage to his skin. I mean
not to say that, not to say that he doesn't,
(07:41):
but he doesn't have any kind of solar damage you
would say to his skin.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
No. But they also lived on a pretty big ranch
and it seems like he spent a significant amount of
time on the ranch outdoor, so that could have been
a contributing fact.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It is possible. I mean, obviously it's possible it happened.
He also another thing sometimes you see in people that
have an increased risk of melanoma is they have a
lot of moles. You could look at their skin and
you could just see that they have them all over
their body, right, And he just doesn't have any of that,
but like you're saying, like, if he's outside working and
having that damage, it's possible. And then furthermore, if he
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has anyone in his family that's ever had a first
what you would call first degree relative, like a parent
or a brother or sister that have melanoma, you're also
at an increased rest. So we don't really know anything.
We don't know where it started. All we know is
that clearly it's spread all over his body and he
died of stage four melanoma.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I mean, yeah, and with everything I knew they were
going through, I think obviously she's taking off mostly to
be there for her kids. But I do think it's
cool of her that she could kind of put everything
aside and be there by his side and be with
her children during this horrific thing. I mean, I don't
know how you would get over something like this as
a kid. That just I mean, her kids are under
ten years.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, it's yeah, I feel badly hard on them
because it's already hard that your parents. I mean, I mean,
I can't even imagine parents getting divorced, what that's like
on children as it is. And then go and even
though it seems like she was trying not to talk
shit on him and stuff the whole time. Like, kids
aren't stupid, they know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, he had two other kids too from a previous marriage,
and one of them had just announced that she was
pregnant too, So that's just really sad to have to
go through that for the whole family. So she was
doing a residency. What's a residency in Las Vegas. That's
like when people are on you know, at a hotel
for a while or something like that. Yeah, it's like
(09:38):
typically musicians will tour and go to different cities every
single weekend or day or whatever they do. But that's
like when you're in one place and playing at one
hotel for amount of time. I think on average, I
think on average people do it typically for a couple months,
but some of the bigger stars do it for like
only a couple weeks or something like.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's what I was telling you.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
With Dolly Parton's doing, I guess like what's considered a
mini residency in December, So she's only playing a couple
of days really, but it's over a couple weeks span
at the same venue in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh okay, like, I just was wondering, like if they
actually have to live there because they're performing so much,
and stuff like how you how you have a family
and deal with something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think I've heard, like when Katie Perry did it,
for example, I think she was only I could be
totally wrong about this. I'm just going off of what
I remember. I think she was playing on the weekends,
so she would fly home during the week and then
go back.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Because if you live in.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
LA it's such a short foot yeah, yeah, that's true,
or it's only a four hour drive, so I mean,
you could realistically shoot over. But I would say if
you're there for months at a time, you probably just
start living there for the couple of months and then
moving back.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
All Right, So okay, let's stop talking about this now
because it is it's kind of sad, So let's talk
about another. This is another sad case honestly on Brandy Landvil.
I think a lot of people think that she's kind
of a flake, and I could see why people are
getting that, but I do feel bad for her for
whatever is going on with her. Yeah, I mean we
(11:11):
first reported on this, I guess back in December when
she first came out with it where she was saying
that she thought she contracted this parasite in her face
while they were filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip in Morocco,
and then I don't know, I feel like at the time,
youth didn't think that was what it was. And I
still don't think she has answers almost a year later.
(11:32):
So yeah, I recall, and I don't even I didn't
even look back to see what I said, because I'm
gonna say what I still think, which is what I
recall I said, is that she looks like she was
having some kind of a like a foreign body reaction
to the fillers that she had in her face. You know,
these especially a lot of these reality stars are filling
(11:53):
their face up with these fillers, and she has this
very lumpy appearance underneath of her skin. Sometimes they get
other things besides fillers, like injected underneath of their skin,
and it just looked like her skin was having some
kind of a granuloma reaction I would call it, which
(12:13):
is which is when the body recognizes something as far
in and then it kind of tries to build a
wall up around it, and her skin just has this
very weird lumpy appearance.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And I also.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Remember saying back then that this is something simple that
could be that could be answered with a biopsy. So
you know, what's that guy's name.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The botched guy, Oh, Terry dubro Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So apparently a couple months ago he did four biopsies
on her face and they came back and showed nothing,
which means that and I don't know what nothing means,
because that could mean it didn't show cancer like people
have a big definition of it showed nothing. I have
a hard time believing that her skin looks like that
without there being something present. But whatever she thinks is nothing.
(13:03):
They were saying, Okay, Well, they also apparently took fungal
cultures and might go bacterial cultures, which are things that
could take a little bit longer to grow, which I
know from personal experience because my little one, Lucia went
through a similar thing that she had this you know,
(13:23):
we always talk about this autoimmune bone thing that she had,
But then she went on this drug Coda Humerra, which
ended up giving her psoriasis, and at some point one
of the psoriasis patches on her leg just got insane looking.
It was like eating a hole away at her leg,
and the doctors just kept trying to treat it with
all these different creams and medications and it wasn't going away.
(13:44):
And finally they buy upsied it and it was kind
of like same thing. It didn't show really anything at
least anything that would explain why it looked so crazy.
But then weeks later, i mean maybe even like a
month later, we found out that it was this real
unusual bacterial and fungal infection and she was treated with
(14:04):
the anti fungal drunk for a long time too, So
I know the frustration that she's going through because Lucea's
leg was like there was a possibility of like she
might need surgery. I mean at this point, I think
still to this day, that she might need some kind
of surgery to repair it, because you could see her
muscle underneath of this huge lesion on her leg, and
(14:28):
it doesn't look like the skin is very very thin there,
and if she has any kind of minimal trauma to it,
it's gonna be a problem. But anyway, I mean, this
was done back in like February or something, so it
appears since she hasn't said anything, it doesn't look like
anything grew and they don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, I just find this really interesting because I guess
as a way to make it feel a little better,
she's been able to exfoliate her face, but then now
she's taken it one step further and put the hair
removal cream on her face, and it's left her with
these severe burns. I don't really understand what she was
thinking by putting that on there.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So she has no answers.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And up to this point, she keeps telling people that
she has a parasite on her face and she could
visibly see it moving underneath of her skin. But according
to all of these I mean, she's seen lots of
specialists like immunologists, infectious disease people.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And nobody knows what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So that's I don't know if they think that this
is a mental thing that's going on, or or possibly
she does have something going on that they're just not
able to see. I just don't know of anything that
would be presenting like this that would not be able
to be identified either through a biopsy or cultures or
(15:52):
blood tests or all these other things. So I really
don't know what's going on with her there. But I
personally think like something's going on, because clearly you look
at her skin and you're like, Okay, it's very nodular,
it looks very angry. Yeah, Like I don't understand how
that would be mental because that looks outrageous.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't even understand how you could do that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, the problem is though, if she's doing weird shit
to whatever initially was the problem. Like, certainly I think
that every single doctor in the world would advise if
you have inflamed, angry, some kind of process going on
in your skin, the last thing you should be doing
is putting a chemical like nar on top of it,
(16:36):
because it's just pissing it off. Even more so, putting
something like that on there just makes it angrier, and
it could just increase the nodules and increase the scar tissue.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Like it's just it's it's not a good idea. So
when you have patients.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That are kind of like home treating with these things,
that's why, like you look at it and you're like, oh,
it looks so bad, but you're like, she could be
making it look that bad because she keeps putting shit
on it that she shouldn't be putting on it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, and I think she's facing a lot of criticism.
I had touched on this on the first time we
covered it, but they had filmed this season and she
allegedly molested or sexually assaulted. Not's fulbl and sexually assaulted,
but she allegedly inappropriately groped one of the other women,
Caroline Manzo. So Caroline Manzo's been in this massive lawsuit
with Bravo, And I don't know if you saw this
(17:24):
in the article, but she said she's calling the parasite Caroline,
which I'm like, considering there's this giant lawsuit that you're
involved in, maybe you should be doing that. But I
think that's why she's facing a lot of criticism because
it doesn't really reflect well on herself, even though she
claims she's innocent. But the timing is just really weird,
and they haven't aired it yet and.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There's all this drama surrounding it. Yeah, the whole thing
is just weird.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think she claims that she got this parasite while
eating food or something in Morocco, when it's just like,
I mean, you can get a parasite that burrows underneath
the skin that you could see underneath of your skin,
scabies or something like that, but it's just that would
be seen on a biopsy for sure. And even that
did doctor Terry from Botched said that he didn't think
(18:11):
it was anything like that. I think that he his
number one thing. I saw that he thought it was
a foreign body reaction too. And on top of that,
the secondary thing was like, oh, maybe it's a weird
fungus or something that takes a longer time to diagnose, but.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We would have known that by now.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And I guess furthermore, I guess we could say that
if she's going through the extra steps to do all
these weird treatments like nair, which I think is kind
of irresponsible because she she made some kind of video
to say like, hey, why would you spend money on
chemical appeals when you could just do this at home,
which is just like absolutely terrible advice to give anyone.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They do make nair for because.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
People have like peach fuzz and stuff on their hair.
They make nair for your face, but like it's a
very it's a less strong formula, and you should only
leave it on for the recommended time and even then,
like you could get chemical burns from it, even if
your skin's perfectly healthy. Like I personally would never put
that shit on my face, right, Well, I used.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It on my legs once and it burns so bad.
Like I don't know if I just had a bad
reaction to it or what. Yeah, So I don't I
really don't.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't really know, but I'm just saying, like, if
she does this home stuff that she's kind of making up,
it's totally possible, especially like sometimes people get fillers that
they don't go and get like hygh luronic acid from
your dermatologists. They get like weird shit from weird people
that are injecting weird shit like silicone and stuff in
(19:42):
people's faces. And if she had anything like that, that's
definitely There's so many documented cases of people getting silicone
in their face and then just having these horrible far
body reactions to it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So I don't know. We'll keep you guys updated if
we hear anything.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know. What I just thought of though, like when
the story first came out was give her take around
the time the lawsuit story was really picking up, and
this story just came out in the last week or two,
and this really big book by a girl that was
on vander Pump Roules just came out and she had
an affair with Brandy's husband and described it in the book.
(20:21):
So I'm like wondering, Like, I'm not accusing her of anything.
I'm just saying the timing for both situations is a little.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What are you saying that she's just like extra stressed
out or something she's actually stressed wants like attention taken
away from that.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, maybe she's extra stressed out or she's acting out
as a response of these things happening in the press.
You know what I'm saying, But I don't know what's
going on. I'm just saying, like I just put that
together with Sheena's book coming out in the last two
weeks and this coming out in the last two weeks,
and then the last time this was a story was
when the lawsuit news was really picking up. So I
(20:55):
do think it's kind of interesting, but.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I don't know. We'll stay on top of this really
important story.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well for me it is, and probably like five people
that listen to the show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So all right, our next story is another cruise incident.
Do you feel like this many cruise incidents are always
happening or we're just more aware of it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Because I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, because like I never cared about a cruise because
I always was that person that was like, I'm never
going on one, So I just think I blocked it
out of my head. And now that we've been on one,
it's like so many things seem to be happening.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, it is just really weird. But okay, So on
the Royal Cruise, same brand we went on, the Icon
of the Sea is the water slide broke and there's
this giant hole in the middle of it and you
can see the water pouring out onto the deck and
people are screaming stop the slide because obviously if someone
were to go down the slide and go over it,
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they would get really hurt. And I guess that one
guy did go over it right before it broke, but
he did get injured from the crack.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, so I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's a clear part of the water slide, so you
could look out of it. Usually it's like a bright
colored acrylic plastic thing, you know, bright red or bright
green or something, but this one had a section that
was clear that looked like glass, but it was acrylic.
So that broke somehow, which is actually weird because it
(22:20):
doesn't appear that it's at the seam. It just appears
that it's like randomly in the middle of it, which
is like such a weird place. And you know what
really scares What scares me about it, I guess is
that prior to starting the rides every day, I assume
that they're checking them to make sure that that there's
(22:41):
no situation like this. And I would think that if
the acrylic was weak in one spot, like you've ever
seen a piece of plexiglass or something like, you could
tell that it's kind of cracked and it looks like
it's about the break or something. It's it's just you
would think that that would have been visible. But maybe
they're only checking the seams because that would be the
(23:03):
most likely place that something would break. Unless the guy
that went on the slide was over the weight it
that you should be able to go on it. Like,
we don't know any of those details, but apparently, like
favorite word, they said that he got lacerations on his
back and on the back of his thighs. So, in
(23:24):
my opinion, if a piece of acrylic plastic like that
is broken, it's almost going to be as sharp as
a sharp weapon like a knife, right, Oh, totally, And
that would not really cause a laceration because a laceration
would be caused by blunt trauma, such as getting hit
in the back of the leg by a baseball bat
or a blunt object. And when you get an injury
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that is from a sharp object such as glass or
even very sharp plastic, that would be considered a sharp
force injury or an incisional wound. And it's not a laceration,
And they misuse it all the time, and it drives
me fricking crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I feel like there's another story coming up this week
where they misused it too. I don't remember off the
top of my head. I have it as a note somewhere.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So I think so too. But I think one of
them is actually correct for once, So I don't know.
But yeah, it's just constantly is driving me crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So you know, Louis brought up a really good point too,
that he said he thought from pictures it appeared that
part of this slide went like over the edge of
the boat, and can you imagine it breaking there and
then falling into the ocean or something.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If you fell off.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I don't know this. It's so scary to me. Anything
that happens on these boats is scary. And then I
was reading also that the crews didn't tell anybody what happened,
So unless you saw it online or you were on
the poll deck when it happened, you just had no
idea this happened.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean, I know.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
They closed the water slide afterwards, a big deal. And
then as of this morning, it was reported that the
guy that got injured has retained a lawyer, which I
would say lawsuit word, yes, because.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I can't even imagine how scary that is. But it's cool.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It's it is kind of cool that they interviewed all
these people that were witnessing it and taking the videos
and stuff, and they're like, I am never going on one.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Of those again.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like obviously, I don't even want to go on one
again after seeing that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Remember that I don't even know if it was on
this or if it was a gross room post or
what it was. In the last couple of years, there
was that roller coaster that had the crack in this
oh yeah beam, Yes, that's what I was and it
was like shaking and it wasn't attached. I know it
really when you watch the video, it almost makes you
(25:39):
panicked to watch this hole and hearing the people scream
to stop the ride, when you're just like, oh my god,
what if they don't hear and no one's communicating with
them and they send like a kid down and the
kid falls.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Out of the hole or something, or an adult whatever
like it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
The whole thing is just like it gives you that gross,
panicky feeling that you could see something really bad is
about to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I wonder if they have some type of emergency alert
system on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm sure they do, because usually when you go on
rides like that, you see the people have some kind
of like micro or like an intercom like a walkie
talkie situation or whatever. But yeah, that it's also weird
too because if I'm correct, that's their newer ship right,
Like it's it's only a year or two old. It's
not like this is a water slide that's been there
for ten years. It's a pretty new one.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I believe you're correct with it because it's I
think it's currently considered the largest active cruise liner, but
their new ship is bigger. Than that, and that's going
to be it's either about to launch or like it's
going to be ready in the next couple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So, I mean just because I feel like a couple
of incidents that we talked about have been with this
particular ship. But obviously I feel like it holds almost
double of what was on our ship.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So you're going to have Is this the same boat
as the other incident from the last couple of weeks
I believe, So, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
My god, I didn't even put that to I.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Think I think at least the the the one with
the with the person falling over the edge of the pool,
but that's like that was a human error too. And
oh the murder one, Yeah, that one too, I believe,
the one where the guy killed his the woman and
then yes, and then he like or he tried to
kill the woman and then he jumped overboard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, well I believe.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So, yeah, they need to really maybe put this boat
on boss and see what so much shy They should
hold crime con there because that would be like an
active investigation. The CRI have a whole entire on the
crime cruise, just have a whole entire time talking about
all the incidents that happened on that particular ship.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Kelly or Kevin, if you're listening, I think this is
the way you should get for the crime cruise.
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This week, not in this particular episode, but just this
week on Mother No's death, we have a couple stories
of people who are pretending to be healthcare professionals when
they are not well.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
This was a particularly unusual one. So this guy was
found guilty of practicing medicine without a proper license after
it came out he was luring men to his apartment
for home genital exams. So this guy was seemingly a
resident in twenty twenty two when he was doing this,
and he joined this running group and had told the
(29:46):
men in his running group that he had to get
like so many hours doing ultrasounds to complete his education.
So they go to his house and agree to it,
and then he ends up examining their genitals, which they
say they didn't know what was going to happen, and
he videoed the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, so one of the guys went home and told
his wife film was like, that was kind of weird,
and then she agreed and they reported it and this
all came out. But I mean, so he was doing
ultrasounds on guys genitals and then video taping it and
then probably like doing something really disgusting after they left
(30:25):
with the videos.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, I mean they said totally separately. He stood trial
in April on a misdemeanor charge of voyeurism, but he
was acquitted and then this comes out later.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I just we say this all the time, especially with
people that are working in medicine. To be a medical
resident is not an easy thing to do. You know,
you have to go to four years of undergrad college
and then you have to do four years of medical school,
and then you have to get a residency. The whole
thing's highly competitive. You have to take tests in order
(31:00):
to pass, to get through all of these these different
parts of medicine, and then you finally get a residency,
which is you're considered to be a doctor, but you
don't you're not an attending physician yet. You still have
to finish that and usually do fellowships afterwards. But to
think that a person would go through all this and
then do something like this. I can't even imagine that
(31:23):
if he was even allowed to finish his residency and
become an attending physician, that any place in their right
mind would hire somebody that's that's.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Done something like this. No, I highly doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I don't even know what his residency was in, but regardless,
it's just it's just really bizarre. And but I have
to tell you about some of the comments posted underneath
one guy I like, I really love the comments section
sometimes on just anything in general. Gabe and I always
(31:58):
send videos back and forth to each other, and it's
just like read the comments. There are some like true
comedic geniuses out there that just aren't aren't showing it
with some of the comments that people write. I mean,
this one's not like completely genius. I just thought it
was funny, but someone put great free handy no copay,
(32:18):
I'm in so funny, But I mean, the whole situation
is not funny. And the way that the story's written,
you're you're just like, Okay, what person in the right
mind would just go to someone's house to get this done?
But I could see I guess he was trying to
say that he was doing some kind of like research
(32:39):
or something to help people with their health, and he
wanted to do I don't know, Like, I guess you
could see how people fell for this, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean it must.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think it was one of those things too, where
it happens and you like, you're saying, this guy goes
home and talks to his wife about it, and he's like,
I feel weird about this, But do you also think
it's weird because it's like a really unusual situation. Because
I think everybody in their right mind wants to think
the best of everybody. You don't want to think that
a guy you were in a running group with just
(33:10):
took you back to his apartment and totally took advantage
of me for his own perverted needs.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And the wife was probably staring at him like, yeah,
that's weird. You know, when you hear it from from
being outside the situation, she was probably like.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What are you Like, of course he was. I just
think it's funny.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Remind me at a time that, uh, when we were
living in the city, Ricky went out to get us
coffees and he comes in the house and he goes
some guy just pulled a machete on me, and I
was like what, and he's like, yeah, he just he
just started screaming at me and pulled a machete on me,
and then you know, then he drove away because he
was in the car. And I'm like, Okay, well we
(33:49):
have to call the police. And he's like, I don't
really think it's that big of a deal, Like what
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, Like you're just like, that's I do think that
that's happened. Sometimes that you have an experience and you
don't really realize it's as bad as like someone hearing
the story outside does you know, It's just like a
weird thing people's brain does.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Because you know me, I immediately was like so upset
about it, and he was just like.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
What's the big deal? What are you talking about it?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You're like, that person probably shouldn't be going around the
city if.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like driving like a minivan.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The police whatn't even would they even came if you
called them? At that point?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
No, I I called and reported and they're like do
you have a license plate? And I was like no,
and they're basically like, well, what do you want us
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
What do you want them to do? Oh, you're in
the city of Philadelphia. There's millions of people, and you're like, oh,
there's a guy in South Philly in a minivan.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Like that's not helpful even a little bit, Like you
should you shouldn't even have bothered. All right, a shit,
let's talk.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So this case has been circulating the news with this
week about this this teenager which has just had an
incredibly sad ending, which unfortunately is what I suspected would happen.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, So he's eighteen years old. His name's Giovanni Pelatier.
So he was visiting Florida with his mother and her fiance,
hoping to reconnect with his dad's side of the family.
So his dad was in jail, but he had made
plans to meet up with his cousins. A couple of
days in the trip. The cousins pick him up at
one thirty in the morning. They said they were going
to be making a three hour trip back to where
(35:20):
they lived. I guess on the other I think they
were on the Gulf side and the cousins lived on
the h the Atlantic side. So the kid gets picked
up one thirty in the morning and only twenty five
minutes later, texts the mom help, but she was sleeping
so she didn't see it until the next morning, and
he had texted a couple other family members for help too,
(35:40):
And by the time the mom wakes up and she
gets in contact, the kid is gone.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
She talks to the cousins. They're like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We were smoking weed and he pulled a knife out
and was acting crazy and he got out on the
side of the road, like totally against his character according
to the rest of the family. Yeah, And so when
I heard this, I was just like, you know, we've
talked about this with with weed in the past, and
just how some of it is a lot stronger, like
more potent strains of it, and especially with kids of
(36:13):
this age, that there's this increased risk of psychosis happening
with marijuana that we've been seeing documented cases of. So
I'm wondering if it's something as simple as that, or
the weed had something else in it that was causing Like.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't think that it's that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It might not be untrue that he smoked something and
started having psychosis and it freaked the cousins out to
the point where they dropped him off and were like, yo,
because they don't really know him either, right.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, I it seems like the leading theory is that
they did something to him. But do you think if
he did smoke weed and it was we didn't do
psychosis that it would kick in in twenty five minutes.
I mean that seems pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I mean, you get I don't think that that's out
of the rama possibility at all. It gets especially smoking it,
it gets in your system so fast. I just they
you know, they're doing an autopsy, obviously they so they
so go go ahead and tell about how they found
the body and stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, so his phone and backpack were found on the
side of the road about an hour away, and then
they ended up finding his remains in a retention pond
off of I seventy five. But the family's mad because
they said the police had initially looked in that area
and did not find him, and it wasn't until later
when they had a private investigator look into it that
that person ended up finding him. So I also read
(37:41):
this morning that they want the FBI to get involved
because they just felt like they were blown off about
the search for the kid. He was missing for over
a week.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, the family has and I don't know what the
deal is with the private investigator, but the family has
definitely made it a point to make social media posts
to say like they are the ones that found the body,
not the police.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Really know how they I guess I mean obviously, like
I would do the same thing if I called the
police and they weren't really doing anything. And we hear
this from time to time on stories I we cover
on this show that especially if you call the police
and say you can't get a hold of an eighteen
year old, they don't really take that seriously unless the
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person's missing for X amount of days or something. And
it's unfortunate because technically an eighteen year old as an adult,
but it's if you're a mother, that's still your baby
and you know how they act. And I feel like
with the text messages that said help me, that should
have maybe had police take it more seriously, because it's
(38:46):
not just like, oh, I can't get a hold of
this kid, like he literally was like helped me. And
the whole situation is he's with people that I'm not
sure that he ever met before that. The whole thing
is weird anyway, Like who pays someone up for a
family of reunion at one thirty in the morning to
drive three hours across the state. Of course, the mother
(39:07):
was sleeping, because like that's what people do in the
middle of the night, is sleep. Yeah, but I do
think that it has I mean, his body was found decomposed, unfortunately,
which is terrible way if the family was involved and
saw him that way. But they're saying it doesn't look
like there was any foul play yet, So to me,
(39:29):
it's like, well, he doesn't look like he was shot,
he doesn't look like he was stabbed, and he doesn't
look like he was beat up. But like, obviously they
have to do the autopsy and do X rays and
do the internal examine to toxicology. But I understand that
they're saying that it looks like the cousins did something
to him, but very well their story could be legit
that he was just I mean, listen, they're gonna be
(39:51):
I assume that they can be charged with with something
because if he was having some kind of a mental condition,
you can't just drop especially he's not from there or anything.
You can't just drop a person off at the side
of the road and like, let let them fend from
themselves when they're in that situation.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I'm really curious to see what the autopsy's gonna
show up, like turn up, because I think that's gonna
you know, I'm hoping it's straightforward because if it's not
inconclusive or whatever, could it be inconclusive because of the
state of his body. I'm saying that because I could
see it. If it doesn't give a clear cut answer
as to what happened, is turning into a really sensationalized I.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Think that he was decomposed, but I don't know that
he like how decomposed he was. I mean, he was
only missing for like not too long, right, he was
missing over a week, And it's ford they'll still be
able they'll still be able to see a lot of
things with the autopsy, like, for example, if he was
in any kind of a fight, they'll they'll sometimes they
(40:54):
could still see the hemorrhage in this off tissue, but
they'll definitely be able to see if there's any kind
of broken bones or any kind of wounds on the
bones that would indicate that he was stabbed or something
like that. And obviously if he was shot the same thing,
so they'll they'll be able to tell, and they'll also
be able to get some fluid for toxicology to see
(41:14):
what's going on there. I mean, we'd we like we're
saying weed's potent and stuff right now, which could just
happen with like regular weed. But weed is laced with
shit all the time too, knowingly and unknowingly. So I mean,
if you're if you're buying it obviously from like a
legit pharmacy around here, you're good as far as it
(41:36):
not having some other kind of drug mixed in with it,
but you could have like angel dust, PCP, anything like
that inside it, which is also a hallucinogen. And like, honestly,
I'm not I don't want to say, because the whole
situation's weird, But you just can't blame either side right
now because we don't know anything. But I mean, if
I picked up a cousin that I've been talking to
(41:59):
on Facebook for a couple of years that I never
met in real life, and we decided to smoke weed
together and they pulled a knife out and started acting crazy,
I might want to drop them off at the side
of the road too, like.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Well, you know what, you know, if that's what happened,
what happens, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
We don't. But I just hope that they stay open
minded in situations like that because we don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, And I hope the family just gets the answers
they need, like cause I just see it the potential
for it to end up being like a Karen Reid
type of thing, like there's not conclusive answers to what happened.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Is going to be like this from now on because
of the Internet, no, I know.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
So hopefully the autopsy is conclusive and they get answers
so they can try try to find peace with it,
you know, because it's a tragedy, all right. So this
video is going around where this woman is claiming that
when she got pregnant, her face just became completely unrecognizable.
So in this video she shows before and after pictures,
(42:55):
and this video has gotten millions of views, one hundred
and sixteen million views, and so many people are Obviously
people are interested in it because she looks drastically different
from picture one to picture two, but also so many
people are like, yeah, you don't look like that, so
(43:16):
we don't even we don't even believe you right now
and then, so she said she's not posting about it
anymore because she's gotten so much backlash over it. So
I went on her TikTok page because yes, the before
picture they use is extremely face tuned. I mean, it's
impossible to tell what this person really looks like, but
when you do go look at other videos of her,
(43:38):
I could see what she kind of looked like minus
all the filters beforehand. I don't think she had this
drastic situation going on her face before she claims she
got pregnant.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Great, I agree, like I think, and I don't know,
is that is the picture that's in this article, the
one that she was using to be like, this is
what I looked like before, and this.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Is what I look like now.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, in the video that is, But I don't think
that was an accurate representation.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It absolutely wasn't. Like when I looked at that, I'm
just like, she looks she looks like one of those
like an anime care, like an anime care just.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Because it's so it's there's like settings on face tune
and they were just clearly turned all the way up.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
It's like the ninety chick, And this is just.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Like something I want to talk about in general, because
like all of these people are are putting these pictures
like on their profile and they're like, is that girl
legitimately think that that's what she looked like? Because she
didn't look like that, And you're trying to tell us
that's what you look like, and like, you don't look
like that.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
The thing that I thought was weird though, is if
you go through her page, the other content she has
is not as heavily filtered like that. So I don't
understand why that was the reference point. Maybe she's just
a social media genius and she used that one because
she knew it would get a lot of debate in
her a lot of views.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well yeah, exactly, and that could totally be possible. But
I do think that there there are people though, that
try to pass that off.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Is that is that what that's what they look like?
And that's what I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That chick from ninety Day Fiance Darcy, I mean Teresa
gu Jidas from Real House West in New Jersey, she
does it that extreme and it's like, what is happening?
You're on television?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
People, you could tell yeah, but you could tell us
that that's what you look like. And like, god, Chloe
Kardashian was doing it hardcore a couple of years ago,
and they're just like, dude, you could sit there and
tell us that that's what you look like, but you don't.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Look like that.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
It's I hate those I hate those filters. I hate
any filter, honestly, Like I just think it's I was
very happy when I met someone in Atlanta and they
were like, you look exactly the same, and I'm like, yeah,
cause I I don't put a weird filter on my face,
Like this is what I look like in real life.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Take it or leave it, like anyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So we're so when you look at what she really
looks like and then what she looks like in pregnancy,
it's still very drastic, but it's also believable because when
you're pregnant, lots of different things go on with your body,
and you could talk about this, like, just talk to.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
So many women.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And actually, I wanted to tell you guys, if you
guys have any stories of like crazy things that happen
to your body when you're pregnant, you could always email
us and let us know, because I think we're going
to start doing some emails on top of the questions
that we do at the end of this episode, just
because we want to hear your stories as well. But so,
(46:37):
when you're pregnant, a couple different things happen, and one
is when you get towards the end of pregnancy, after
thirty weeks, you actually start making more blood in your body,
which is really cool that women can do this, and
it's kind of like this evolutionary thing because there's so
much blood lost doring childbirth, So you have this increase
(46:58):
of blood in your body not only for that but
just to help this growing parasite inside of your body.
And you also have an increase of estrogen, which dilates
the blood vessels as well. So in your nose, for example,
you know when you're sick and your nose just gets
kind of swollen, it's it's very red, and it just
(47:20):
looks like it's bigger than it normally is. That's because
your nose is just different than the skin on your cheek,
for example, because you have all of these mucus cells
and everything underneath of that, and when all of that
gets angry and inflamed, it could just make it seem
like it's larger because on your cheeks like you have fat,
but in your nose there's not really fat or anything.
(47:41):
So and you're staring in the mirror and you're looking
and it's just like, Okay, this looks huge compared to
how it did look. So there's not an official condition
called pregnancy nose, but lots of different women have experienced it,
and it's something that, like legit can be explained physiologically
what's going on in a preguate body. And then so
(48:02):
that would explain why her nose looks so much larger.
And then she also looks like she has pregnancy acne
as well.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, but it's not like a couple pimples. It's it
looks like she has an insane rash on her face.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, so, I mean this is what you So people
that get pregnancy acne are usually people that if you
get it like in the first week of your period,
you're more likely to get it in the first trimester
of pregnancy, and then you could carry on with it
throughout the rest of your pregnancy. And the problem is
is if you're I mean, like some people like you
(48:37):
and I for example, are people that get like a
ZiT here or there, but some people that have full
on acne. If you've seen people that have it really
severe as a teenager, they have to go on some
pretty hardcore medications to really treat it and get rid
of it. And if you're prone to that, you can
get which I'm not.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
This is just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I'm just making I'm not trying to diagnose her by video,
but I am at the same time, like her skin
without the filter looks like she had an acne problem
at some point in her life. She just has like
scars that would be consistent with acne. So now she's pregnant,
she's at an increased risk of getting it again. And
you can't take like the acutine. I don't even know
if acutine is the proper or you can't take anymore,
(49:22):
but you can't take any anny, So that could be
why it just looks extra angry, or whatever she was
doing to treat it could just make her skin like
it looks like she's got full blown acne on her face,
but on top of that it looks very swollen and angry,
which just makes it look more drastic. So I I
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don't believe that that part of the story is fake
even a little bit, like that photo looks like something
that could really happen, and it is even strikingly different
from her real appearance, and lots of like I could
tell you, like my feet got bigger when I was pregnant.
There's just like different things that happen to everyone's body.
(50:03):
So I am curious if you've guys have had anything
like that. I don't really recall my nose getting bigger,
but I do know that my nose gets like it
was big last week because my nose was like super
inflamed because of allergies and stuff. So like you've noticed
that right on yourself, Like yeah, like you know when
(50:24):
you get that like weird like burning in the tip
of your nose and like the snot is like pouring
out of your face.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, like when I'm sick. I've definitely noticed. Yeah, so
it's kind of a similar thing.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
It's like being pregnant must be hard enough, and then
you have to deal with all this other bullshit too.
It just seems really unfair, it really is.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
There's there's lots of I had a friend that got
a really crazy rash on her arms, being pregnant and
it left like permanent scarring on her arms. There's like
there's a lot of things that could happen. That's why
when people used to be a surrogate, I'm always like,
that's like pregnancy isn't considered just like a benign kind
of condition your body goes under.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's a lot, no, But you.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Know, there's like people like mo Mom that are like
I felt the best I ever did when I was pregnant,
and I just I mean, I haven't been so like
I just can't imagine that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Be my experience.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
But like I feel like I don't know, you could
speak for your own pregnancies, but I feel like witnessing
you it wasn't like the best experience of your life.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, I mean, there were definitely good parts of it
because I didn't get any headaches the entire time I
was pregnant, which was awesome. Like I didn't get my
period obviously when I was pregnant, So those things are
are always a positive. But like there's just so many
other things that happened, like and I was I was
(51:47):
kind of fine, Like I never got sick with the
throwing up and all that stuff. I never had that ever,
And some people like really go through it and feel terrible,
but I was opposite, Like as far as like my
appetite went, I was never nauseous and like definitely feeding
for two, if not five.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
So you were on a big, big meg kick with Lilian.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, big, like, oh my god, it's just terrible and
cupcakes and just like terrible. I gained so much weight,
and I remember my obstetrician was like, oh, why don't
why don't we send you to a nutritionist because you're
we have to see why you're gaining so much weight.
And I was just like I eat like two donuts
(52:32):
every day for breakfast, and like like I know why
I'm gaining weight. There's no one that's going to tell
me how to change my diet. I know that I can.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I just don't want to because I just want to
eat everything in sight. It was terrible.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
All right, Let's move on to Questions of the Day.
Every Friday, at the A Mother Knows Death Instagram account,
you guys can head over to our story and ask
whatever you want. First, could you do anything within CSI
or the lab while being colorblind?
Speaker 1 (52:59):
So this is a this is actually a really good question.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
So I believe I went to cytology school such a
long time ago, back in two thousand. I do recall
them giving off the color blind test, and I do
recall it being an issue if you were a colorblind.
I didn't have any particular students in my class that were.
(53:23):
But especially when you're doing cytology and you're looking at
cells under the microscope and you really need to know
if because some of the cytoplasm turns different colors in
certain situations, and you really need to know. You really
need to be able to accurately see the colors in
order to see different changes in the cells. So I
(53:45):
would say, depending on what kind of color blindness you had,
you would not be able to be a cytotechnologist for sure,
I believe you. I don't see why it would be
a problem in the other parts of the lab, like
the clinical laboratory. If you're a medical technologist doing like
hematology or blood bank or something like that, I don't
see that being a problem.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Being a PA, you definitely should be able to.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Recognize different colors and the disease process for certain situations.
But I still don't think that that would be considered
a deal breaker because you could just see other things
associated with it.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I mean, we we have to describe the colors of
things sometimes, but I don't know if it's that that
that important as it is. Was psychology so and then
cs I I I'm not sure exactly because I don't
I never worked in that field. But I'm missing l Yeah,
we could, we could ask Cheryl for sure. I'm just
(54:50):
I'm assuming no, like you should be fine, you know,
I don't. I don't think that you would be like
excluded for that.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
So, but that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
All right. If a loved one passed away, would I
be able to request to keep a tooth? So you
I listen, if you ever want something like that, you could.
That would be something that I would recommend that you
ask the funeral home. I feel like because of what
happened with David Scoonce, I don't think they're allowed to
(55:26):
take teeth.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Out anymore now. I don't they could, But that has
nothing to do with.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Like, if you have a written permission for him from
a family, that's why wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Do that, because then he would fake a written permission for.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Who?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Remember they were taking all the people's teeth out for
their fillings and stuff. I feel like after that some
regulation was passed where they're not allowed to remove things
like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I don't know if that's true. I really don't know
what happens in the funeral home. I could just tell
you we've had a couple of situations like that.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
People.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
The only thing that we would ever give back to
a family is like if a person was wearing like
a wedding ring or something. I would never ever cut
off a body part and give it to a family member.
But we've had requests like can I have a lock
of this person's hair or something like that, and we
just say, we're sending the body to the funeral home
and you could deal. They could deal with that, Like
(56:21):
that's nothing that we would ever do. And I suppose
that the funeral home has the ability to pull out
a tooth, but like they really, I mean they could.
They could use a pair of pliers, honestly, like it
would work. But there's like Maria was talking about this
case of the Lamb Funeral Home. What was the name
(56:44):
of that documentary on Netflix? Yeah, The more Titian on HBO,
The Mortician on HBO. There's never a situation that I
could foresee that a funeral home would have to take
out someone's teeth. But also people have sometimes people have
like a grill, or they have like gold in their teeth.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
And people might they might have a gold tooth with
an initial that somebody would want to keep. And I
don't I don't see what the problem is if the
family requests that getting that, it just would have to
be documented properly. And I mean, I'd love to just
talk to a funeral director and hear some of the
weird requests that people have, because I'm sure it's I'm
(57:26):
sure people have asked for legit body parts, like who knows,
you know, it's just people. People have some weird requests.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So all right, less, what's an important quality you try
to instill in your kids?
Speaker 1 (57:40):
I didn't even really think about this.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
I obviously I have lots of life lessons. So now
they're so now they're approaching being teenagers, so like a
huge one is And I think that this was with
Maria too. Was just trying to have them have like
a true establishment of their self and not going along
(58:03):
with what everyone is going along with which is hard
because I feel like it's even it's even worse now, right,
Like Gabe and I went to the boardwalk recently, and
you're just like you're walking on the boardwalk and you
see all these kids that, like, you don't even know
where they're from. They could be from around here, they
could be from Philly, or they could be from another state, town, country,
(58:27):
even lots of people come from Canada and stuff. And
Gabe was just like, all these kids are dressed the same,
like from all over because they all they all do
Pinterest and they all do TikTok and Instagram, so that
they all like look the same, right, And I guess
something could be said about that from it's a little
(58:48):
bit different than when we were kids. But like, there
was definitely a part in the eighties where it was
like everyone was dressing like Madonna and everybody was dressing
like Debbie Gibson and all the you know, just things
like that. But it almost is interesting to think about
having let's say, for example, back in the eighties, like
kids from California versus kids from New Jersey, where like
(59:11):
they all dressed the same and it probably would not
be the same just because regionally.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
You only know what you know and.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
What you see on TV basically, so, but it's not
it's not just about the clothes and everything though. It's
just about because that transfers over into them when they
get older, like their friends having sex and their friends
doing drugs and their friends drinking and stuff.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Really try to say that to them all the time,
just like you do what you want to do and
be who you are and don't change for any of
your friends or to fit in. And I think that's
that's hard, like a hard lesson, don't you think so?
Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, because it's easier to just go with the flow,
oh obviously, and just.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Like stupid things like when and everyone's guilty of it
to a certain extent throughout their life. And it's just
like certain things when I got older and I was
in college and everyone wanted to go to the bar
and go drinking, and I'd be like, okay, and then
I would go and I would just be miserable all night,
and then I would think something was wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I'd be like, I.
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Really wish like all these people are drinking and having
fun and like I'm just like I hate this so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Why do.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I hate this so bad, and really I should have
just been like, you know what, like been honest with myself.
That's not for me, and I don't want to do that.
I'm going to stay home when you guys go out.
I'll be happier being home. Just there's nothing well, but
like sometimes you're worried that people are gonna like judge you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
For that, you know, because you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
On a similar note to that, because we're very similar
with drinking stuff, Like it took me until you know,
my late twenties really in the last couple of years
to just be like, if I do go out, I
don't have to drink because everybody else is drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it's like a it's like a peer pressure thing
in a way even, and it just it takes a
lot for you to be strong enough to just be like, no,
this is what I want to do, and I don't
have to do with all you are doing, and we
could all still hang out and be friends.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Like it's just a matter of like really not caring
what other people think of you. And it's hard to
live like that. It really is hard to live like that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
And when you're a little kid like my kid's age,
it's hard, like you're you're kind of you're desperate for friends.
Desper you just want to have friends because it's the
center of your life right now. As friends and who
they make friends with is very important as to how
they grow up and who they surround themselves with. And listen,
(01:01:50):
We've had a couple of situations where kids have been
like they just suck and you I have to sit
there and talk to the kids and just be like, listen,
like would you Because Lilian especially has the best friend
that like is just the best, right, and she's now
the comparison for every other person that she becomes friends with.
When she has problems with other friends, I just say, like,
(01:02:12):
would you fight with so and so like this? Would
they ever say that to you? Would they ever treat
you like this? And you just have to There's just
a lot to teach them about having respect for themselves
now and what they tolerate and how they tolerate being treated,
because I feel like that bleeds into them dating and
(01:02:32):
that's when shit could get really bad, like them taking
shit from a guy or a girl whoever they decide
to date, like not being treated well because that could
go all the way into adulthood and their marriage and
everything else. So it's just like it all goes together,
you know, And that's like, I guess that's the biggest
thing is that I just am trying to work on,
like them being confident in themselves and like who they're
(01:02:56):
being friends with.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
On a funny side note about dressing in the eighties
and being trendy, I think I want to show our
YouTube people this picture of momm in the eighties in
her hair where it looks like she was electrocuted, but
she claims that it was perfectly on brand and trendy
for the time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But look at this, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Wait, Like, okay, so how old am I in that picture?
I was in That was when she was trying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
To show the extended picture, so this is you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I hated that fricking crown too. So this was in
nineteen eighty seven. She was pregnant with Louis, which means
that I was eight years old.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
She was in that photograph. She's thirty. Put it back up,
she said, she was thirty. Yeah, she's my age in
this picture.
Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Just put it back up. Ricky said, she looked like
Marv from the Woods.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Like her hair is seriously a solid six inches.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
If it was the trending hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I'm like, there's just no way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Why does she look better approaching seventy than she did
when she was thirty?
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Like, really, we.
Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Really should do a photo montage of some of her
best looks. I nobody wanted to do this, but on
the cruise, I was like, for dinner, we should do
the Chris Jenner thing and all dressed like one of
her outrageous outfits.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I wouldn't want to do that. You know, you should
do it with that picture.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
You should put it in like an AI program and
put a normal haircut on her and be like you,
like you would have been like the hottest chick ever
if you just had normal hair. She always let me
let me see pop up next next to her. He
looks exactly the same, So he was like, forty up, Yeah,
he really does look exactly the same. He's just like
(01:04:51):
not like collar her. Her head is like bigger than
the entire picture. It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I literally cannot.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'm kind of like jealous at her hair could even
get that big, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Like, what is even happening there.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I bet you we get it techulated. That says humpers.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, she calls she calls us humpers, and that was. Wait,
I should find that that conversation was like a little
bit we don't get understand.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Completely unhinge that conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I'm trying to look for it, like in one of
our family group chats, like a family group chat. I'm
trying to because that was kind of a while ago.
But oh wait, this might be it. So we don't
even know where she got that. So she calls us,
she calls us humpers because we were like making fun
of her over something, because my brother and sister also
(01:05:44):
make fun of her all the time too. So then
I send her back this screenshot that I took from
that remember that website Urban Dictionary, and it says humper.
A morbid, obese man who is obsessed with humping random
objects around is home. He spends most of his time
in his bathroom humping the shower curtain. He also fantasizes
(01:06:06):
about a Hispanic girl named Vanessa watching him as he
humps the objects. Oh what fun he has? And she right,
she writes back and puts you ruin everything, like I'm
the problem here right now, right?
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
It was?
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
And then I said, I'm sorry, does it have a
nicer meeting? And she's like, it's a term of endearment,
like she claims it's.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Some British term of endearment.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Okay, Well, any anybody from the UK that's listening, please
fill us in to what humper means because we have
no idea and it just doesn't sound right coming out
of an old lady's mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
So your guy's favorite guest, Bequall's aka momm calls all
of her children and grandchildren humpers. A man that humps
inanimate objects, shower curtains. Real nice, All right, guys. We
will be in crime Con from September fifth to the seventh.
This schedule is a fish out. You guys have to
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On Titty's episode, we're
going to get into the untimely death of Kelly Clarkson's husband.
Brandy Glanville's face is back in the news this week,
so we're going to talk about that. Another weird accident
on a cruise, fake doctor who is doing home genital exams,
(00:41):
a teen who went missing and texted his mom for
help before being found dead, and a viral video of
a woman's drassic face change during pregnancy. All that and
more on Titty's episode, Let's get started with Brandon Blackstone,
who is Kelly Clarkson's ex husband.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, so you just made the same exact error I
know I'm gonna make is that his last name is
black Stock, but I think also saying black Stone, and
when I was writing my notes, I just kept writing
black Stone instead of black Stock.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's like this.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Weird error we're both making. But last week, Kelly Clarkson
posted that she was postponing her Vegas residency to be
with her kids because their father, her ex husband, was sick,
and that kind of shocked everybody because she doesn't really
often share her personal life. And the very next day
reports came out that he died.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, it's really sad because he's only forty eight, right, So,
and they said he was battling it for three years.
So just imagine getting diagnosed with something. I mean, that's
how old I am. It's just devastating to get some
kind of diagnosis like that. So I first I thought
it was actually kind of weird because I don't know
who these people are really, but I do remember, I mean,
(02:01):
she was like an American Idol person or one of
those types of people, like where did she come from?
She came from American Idol, but and she had like
the most probably I would say she had the most
successful career coming from that show.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And she was very successful.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean I heard her songs and stuff. It's
just it's not my kup of tea. But like, I
know who she is. So I just remember vaguely hearing
in the news over the past couple of years that
she was getting divorced and it seemed that it was
it was like really messy.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Right, Well, this is what's really interesting. So her agent
was her ex husband's father, initially, so his name was
Narvel black Sock and he was married to Riba for years.
I think like over twenty years they ever married. So
him and Riba ended up getting divorced because she Riba
said that their marriage was basically all business, like all
(02:56):
he could ever talk about was business. I assume he
was managing her as well. So I find this really
interesting because Brandon Blacksog ended up managing Kelly Clarkson at
some point in their marriage, and it seemed like he
was doing the same deal, like making a bunch of
deals without her consent, charging her a lot of fees
behind the scenes that she wasn't aware of until seemingly
after they got divorced, or maybe that came to light,
(03:18):
and that's why they got divorced, because she was like,
you're taking advantage of me, and you're my husband and
we have children together. But they got divorced in twenty twenty,
and after that it was just so contentious. He was
trying to get all this money from her. She had
to pay him this slump sum of over a million dollars,
and then she had to pay him this astronomical spousal
support on top of child support. Then a couple of
(03:41):
years ago. He ended up owing her all this money
because they proved that he was charging her an excessive
amount of fees when brokering deals for her.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's been a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't understand how he's charging her fees if they're married, Like,
isn't it all the same?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well? I guess not, because a typical agent fee would
be like ten percent of deal. And if he's broker
in the deals. Think about if Gabe was brokering deals
for you, would you assume he was maybe charging you
fifteen or twenty percent, not the average ten percent. You
want to think the money's all going to at the
same place, isn't it? But it is like if he
if he was charging me fifty percent, like it still
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would be his money. I don't know whatever. I don't
get involved. I have no idea how people that have
money like that live. But regardless, like that's all I remember.
And then I was thinking, like God, this all was
going down when he went cancer, when he was going
through this cancer, but apparently it didn't happen until after
(04:38):
they were divorced. I guess, Well, so they're saying he
was privately battling it for three years. So let's say
he got diagnosed in twenty twenty two, I mean in
twenty twenty three, December of twenty three, that's when he
was issued to pay her over two point five million dollars.
So like their legal problems were going on into his diagnosis,
but maybe at that time they didn't know how severe
(04:58):
it was.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, so let's let's talk a little bit about the
cancer he has, which was which is melanoma. So it's
a it's I wouldn't consider it to be a rare
skin cancer, but it's not as common as other types
of skin cancer.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And it's been in the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We've definitely talked about it on Mother No's death often
because of Teddy Mellancamp. She has stage four melanoma.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Chloe Kardashian had had it removed. She had a pretty
large resection done on her face for melanoma. And when
you get diagnosed with it initially, if you get it
taken out and it's very local, which means it's just
in that area where they cut it out and they
get it all out, you have a very high chance
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of surviving it. And at that time it's not considered
to be a bad cancer. But once it spreads, if
you do not catch it early on, it's it's one
of the worst cancers. So that's an important thing when
you see any kind of abnormal lesion on your skin,
that you should go get it checked out right away,
(06:07):
because they're earlier that you get it taken care of
the better. So I didn't even know who this guy is,
and I just looked at a picture of him because
I wanted to see if he fit the classic person
that you would think has the most increased chance of melanoma,
someone like my son in law Ricky, who's like a
(06:27):
pale ginger with body freckles and red hair, is like
the people that are most common demographic.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, just like people that have.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Especially people that have light hair, like blonde, blue eyes,
white skin, they're at the most increased risk of it.
And then secondly, men who are over fifty years old
are at the highest risk of it too. So this
guy got diagnosed when he was forty five, so he's
kind of a little young. But melanoma is also one
of the most common cancers that occur in younger people.
(06:59):
So we even knew a kid that had a lesion
removed and it was pre cancerous at like ten years old,
so it could happen. It's not that it doesn't happen.
But her husband is he's fairly light skin, but he
has more of my coloring like he's he doesn't look
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like the typical super white boy kind of. He's got
dark eyes and he's got dark hair, so he doesn't
look like the classic person that would be at the
highest risk for melanoma. Secondly, I look at him, and
he doesn't look like a sun worshiper. He doesn't look
like he has sun damage to his skin. I mean
not to say that, not to say that he doesn't,
(07:41):
but he doesn't have any kind of solar damage you
would say to his skin.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
No. But they also lived on a pretty big ranch
and it seems like he spent a significant amount of
time on the ranch outdoor, so that could have been
a contributing fact.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It is possible. I mean, obviously it's possible it happened.
He also another thing sometimes you see in people that
have an increased risk of melanoma is they have a
lot of moles. You could look at their skin and
you could just see that they have them all over
their body, right, And he just doesn't have any of that,
but like you're saying, like, if he's outside working and
having that damage, it's possible. And then furthermore, if he
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has anyone in his family that's ever had a first
what you would call first degree relative, like a parent
or a brother or sister that have melanoma, you're also
at an increased rest. So we don't really know anything.
We don't know where it started. All we know is
that clearly it's spread all over his body and he
died of stage four melanoma.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I mean, yeah, and with everything I knew they were
going through, I think obviously she's taking off mostly to
be there for her kids. But I do think it's
cool of her that she could kind of put everything
aside and be there by his side and be with
her children during this horrific thing. I mean, I don't
know how you would get over something like this as
a kid. That just I mean, her kids are under
ten years.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, it's yeah, I feel badly hard on them
because it's already hard that your parents. I mean, I mean,
I can't even imagine parents getting divorced, what that's like
on children as it is. And then go and even
though it seems like she was trying not to talk
shit on him and stuff the whole time. Like, kids
aren't stupid, they know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, he had two other kids too from a previous marriage,
and one of them had just announced that she was
pregnant too, So that's just really sad to have to
go through that for the whole family. So she was
doing a residency. What's a residency in Las Vegas. That's
like when people are on you know, at a hotel
for a while or something like that. Yeah, it's like
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typically musicians will tour and go to different cities every
single weekend or day or whatever they do. But that's
like when you're in one place and playing at one
hotel for amount of time. I think on average, I
think on average people do it typically for a couple months,
but some of the bigger stars do it for like
only a couple weeks or something like.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's what I was telling you.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
With Dolly Parton's doing, I guess like what's considered a
mini residency in December, So she's only playing a couple
of days really, but it's over a couple weeks span
at the same venue in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh okay, like, I just was wondering, like if they
actually have to live there because they're performing so much,
and stuff like how you how you have a family
and deal with something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think I've heard, like when Katie Perry did it,
for example, I think she was only I could be
totally wrong about this. I'm just going off of what
I remember. I think she was playing on the weekends,
so she would fly home during the week and then
go back.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Because if you live in.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
LA it's such a short foot yeah, yeah, that's true,
or it's only a four hour drive, so I mean,
you could realistically shoot over. But I would say if
you're there for months at a time, you probably just
start living there for the couple of months and then
moving back.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
All Right, So okay, let's stop talking about this now
because it is it's kind of sad, So let's talk
about another. This is another sad case honestly on Brandy Landvil.
I think a lot of people think that she's kind
of a flake, and I could see why people are
getting that, but I do feel bad for her for
whatever is going on with her. Yeah, I mean we
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first reported on this, I guess back in December when
she first came out with it where she was saying
that she thought she contracted this parasite in her face
while they were filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip in Morocco,
and then I don't know, I feel like at the time,
youth didn't think that was what it was. And I
still don't think she has answers almost a year later.
(11:32):
So yeah, I recall, and I don't even I didn't
even look back to see what I said, because I'm
gonna say what I still think, which is what I
recall I said, is that she looks like she was
having some kind of a like a foreign body reaction
to the fillers that she had in her face. You know,
these especially a lot of these reality stars are filling
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their face up with these fillers, and she has this
very lumpy appearance underneath of her skin. Sometimes they get
other things besides fillers, like injected underneath of their skin,
and it just looked like her skin was having some
kind of a granuloma reaction I would call it, which
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is which is when the body recognizes something as far
in and then it kind of tries to build a
wall up around it, and her skin just has this
very weird lumpy appearance.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And I also.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Remember saying back then that this is something simple that
could be that could be answered with a biopsy. So
you know, what's that guy's name.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The botched guy, Oh, Terry dubro Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So apparently a couple months ago he did four biopsies
on her face and they came back and showed nothing,
which means that and I don't know what nothing means,
because that could mean it didn't show cancer like people
have a big definition of it showed nothing. I have
a hard time believing that her skin looks like that
without there being something present. But whatever she thinks is nothing.
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They were saying, Okay, Well, they also apparently took fungal
cultures and might go bacterial cultures, which are things that
could take a little bit longer to grow, which I
know from personal experience because my little one, Lucia went
through a similar thing that she had this you know,
(13:23):
we always talk about this autoimmune bone thing that she had,
But then she went on this drug Coda Humerra, which
ended up giving her psoriasis, and at some point one
of the psoriasis patches on her leg just got insane looking.
It was like eating a hole away at her leg,
and the doctors just kept trying to treat it with
all these different creams and medications and it wasn't going away.
(13:44):
And finally they buy upsied it and it was kind
of like same thing. It didn't show really anything at
least anything that would explain why it looked so crazy.
But then weeks later, i mean maybe even like a
month later, we found out that it was this real
unusual bacterial and fungal infection and she was treated with
(14:04):
the anti fungal drunk for a long time too, So
I know the frustration that she's going through because Lucea's
leg was like there was a possibility of like she
might need surgery. I mean at this point, I think
still to this day, that she might need some kind
of surgery to repair it, because you could see her
muscle underneath of this huge lesion on her leg, and
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it doesn't look like the skin is very very thin there,
and if she has any kind of minimal trauma to it,
it's gonna be a problem. But anyway, I mean, this
was done back in like February or something, so it
appears since she hasn't said anything, it doesn't look like
anything grew and they don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, I just find this really interesting because I guess
as a way to make it feel a little better,
she's been able to exfoliate her face, but then now
she's taken it one step further and put the hair
removal cream on her face, and it's left her with
these severe burns. I don't really understand what she was
thinking by putting that on there.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So she has no answers.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And up to this point, she keeps telling people that
she has a parasite on her face and she could
visibly see it moving underneath of her skin. But according
to all of these I mean, she's seen lots of
specialists like immunologists, infectious disease people.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And nobody knows what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So that's I don't know if they think that this
is a mental thing that's going on, or or possibly
she does have something going on that they're just not
able to see. I just don't know of anything that
would be presenting like this that would not be able
to be identified either through a biopsy or cultures or
(15:52):
blood tests or all these other things. So I really
don't know what's going on with her there. But I
personally think like something's going on, because clearly you look
at her skin and you're like, Okay, it's very nodular,
it looks very angry. Yeah, Like I don't understand how
that would be mental because that looks outrageous.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I don't even understand how you could do that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, the problem is though, if she's doing weird shit
to whatever initially was the problem. Like, certainly I think
that every single doctor in the world would advise if
you have inflamed, angry, some kind of process going on
in your skin, the last thing you should be doing
is putting a chemical like nar on top of it,
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because it's just pissing it off. Even more so, putting
something like that on there just makes it angrier, and
it could just increase the nodules and increase the scar tissue.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Like it's just it's it's not a good idea. So
when you have patients.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That are kind of like home treating with these things,
that's why, like you look at it and you're like, oh,
it looks so bad, but you're like, she could be
making it look that bad because she keeps putting shit
on it that she shouldn't be putting on it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, and I think she's facing a lot of criticism.
I had touched on this on the first time we
covered it, but they had filmed this season and she
allegedly molested or sexually assaulted. Not's fulbl and sexually assaulted,
but she allegedly inappropriately groped one of the other women,
Caroline Manzo. So Caroline Manzo's been in this massive lawsuit
with Bravo, And I don't know if you saw this
(17:24):
in the article, but she said she's calling the parasite Caroline,
which I'm like, considering there's this giant lawsuit that you're
involved in, maybe you should be doing that. But I
think that's why she's facing a lot of criticism because
it doesn't really reflect well on herself, even though she
claims she's innocent. But the timing is just really weird,
and they haven't aired it yet and.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
There's all this drama surrounding it. Yeah, the whole thing
is just weird.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think she claims that she got this parasite while
eating food or something in Morocco, when it's just like,
I mean, you can get a parasite that burrows underneath
the skin that you could see underneath of your skin,
scabies or something like that, but it's just that would
be seen on a biopsy for sure. And even that
did doctor Terry from Botched said that he didn't think
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it was anything like that. I think that he his
number one thing. I saw that he thought it was
a foreign body reaction too. And on top of that,
the secondary thing was like, oh, maybe it's a weird
fungus or something that takes a longer time to diagnose, but.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We would have known that by now.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And I guess furthermore, I guess we could say that
if she's going through the extra steps to do all
these weird treatments like nair, which I think is kind
of irresponsible because she she made some kind of video
to say like, hey, why would you spend money on
chemical appeals when you could just do this at home,
which is just like absolutely terrible advice to give anyone.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They do make nair for because.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
People have like peach fuzz and stuff on their hair.
They make nair for your face, but like it's a
very it's a less strong formula, and you should only
leave it on for the recommended time and even then,
like you could get chemical burns from it, even if
your skin's perfectly healthy. Like I personally would never put
that shit on my face, right, Well, I used.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It on my legs once and it burns so bad.
Like I don't know if I just had a bad
reaction to it or what. Yeah, So I don't I
really don't.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't really know, but I'm just saying, like, if
she does this home stuff that she's kind of making up,
it's totally possible, especially like sometimes people get fillers that
they don't go and get like hygh luronic acid from
your dermatologists. They get like weird shit from weird people
that are injecting weird shit like silicone and stuff in
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people's faces. And if she had anything like that, that's
definitely There's so many documented cases of people getting silicone
in their face and then just having these horrible far
body reactions to it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So I don't know. We'll keep you guys updated if
we hear anything.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You know. What I just thought of though, like when
the story first came out was give her take around
the time the lawsuit story was really picking up, and
this story just came out in the last week or two,
and this really big book by a girl that was
on vander Pump Roules just came out and she had
an affair with Brandy's husband and described it in the book.
(20:21):
So I'm like wondering, Like, I'm not accusing her of anything.
I'm just saying the timing for both situations is a little.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What are you saying that she's just like extra stressed
out or something she's actually stressed wants like attention taken
away from that.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, maybe she's extra stressed out or she's acting out
as a response of these things happening in the press.
You know what I'm saying, But I don't know what's
going on. I'm just saying, like I just put that
together with Sheena's book coming out in the last two
weeks and this coming out in the last two weeks,
and then the last time this was a story was
when the lawsuit news was really picking up. So I
(20:55):
do think it's kind of interesting, but.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I don't know. We'll stay on top of this really
important story.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well for me it is, and probably like five people
that listen to the show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
So all right, our next story is another cruise incident.
Do you feel like this many cruise incidents are always
happening or we're just more aware of it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Because I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, because like I never cared about a cruise because
I always was that person that was like, I'm never
going on one, So I just think I blocked it
out of my head. And now that we've been on one,
it's like so many things seem to be happening.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, it is just really weird. But okay, So on
the Royal Cruise, same brand we went on, the Icon
of the Sea is the water slide broke and there's
this giant hole in the middle of it and you
can see the water pouring out onto the deck and
people are screaming stop the slide because obviously if someone
were to go down the slide and go over it,
(21:50):
they would get really hurt. And I guess that one
guy did go over it right before it broke, but
he did get injured from the crack.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, so I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's a clear part of the water slide, so you
could look out of it. Usually it's like a bright
colored acrylic plastic thing, you know, bright red or bright
green or something, but this one had a section that
was clear that looked like glass, but it was acrylic.
So that broke somehow, which is actually weird because it
(22:20):
doesn't appear that it's at the seam. It just appears
that it's like randomly in the middle of it, which
is like such a weird place. And you know what
really scares What scares me about it, I guess is
that prior to starting the rides every day, I assume
that they're checking them to make sure that that there's
(22:41):
no situation like this. And I would think that if
the acrylic was weak in one spot, like you've ever
seen a piece of plexiglass or something like, you could
tell that it's kind of cracked and it looks like
it's about the break or something. It's it's just you
would think that that would have been visible. But maybe
they're only checking the seams because that would be the
(23:03):
most likely place that something would break. Unless the guy
that went on the slide was over the weight it
that you should be able to go on it. Like,
we don't know any of those details, but apparently, like
favorite word, they said that he got lacerations on his
back and on the back of his thighs. So, in
(23:24):
my opinion, if a piece of acrylic plastic like that
is broken, it's almost going to be as sharp as
a sharp weapon like a knife, right, Oh, totally, And
that would not really cause a laceration because a laceration
would be caused by blunt trauma, such as getting hit
in the back of the leg by a baseball bat
or a blunt object. And when you get an injury
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that is from a sharp object such as glass or
even very sharp plastic, that would be considered a sharp
force injury or an incisional wound. And it's not a laceration,
And they misuse it all the time, and it drives
me fricking crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I feel like there's another story coming up this week
where they misused it too. I don't remember off the
top of my head. I have it as a note somewhere.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So I think so too. But I think one of
them is actually correct for once, So I don't know.
But yeah, it's just constantly is driving me crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So you know, Louis brought up a really good point too,
that he said he thought from pictures it appeared that
part of this slide went like over the edge of
the boat, and can you imagine it breaking there and
then falling into the ocean or something.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If you fell off.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I don't know this. It's so scary to me. Anything
that happens on these boats is scary. And then I
was reading also that the crews didn't tell anybody what happened,
So unless you saw it online or you were on
the poll deck when it happened, you just had no
idea this happened.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean, I know.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
They closed the water slide afterwards, a big deal. And
then as of this morning, it was reported that the
guy that got injured has retained a lawyer, which I
would say lawsuit word, yes, because.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I can't even imagine how scary that is. But it's cool.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It's it is kind of cool that they interviewed all
these people that were witnessing it and taking the videos
and stuff, and they're like, I am never going on one.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Of those again.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like obviously, I don't even want to go on one
again after seeing that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Remember that I don't even know if it was on
this or if it was a gross room post or
what it was. In the last couple of years, there
was that roller coaster that had the crack in this
oh yeah beam, Yes, that's what I was and it
was like shaking and it wasn't attached. I know it
really when you watch the video, it almost makes you
(25:39):
panicked to watch this hole and hearing the people scream
to stop the ride, when you're just like, oh my god,
what if they don't hear and no one's communicating with
them and they send like a kid down and the
kid falls.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Out of the hole or something, or an adult whatever
like it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
The whole thing is just like it gives you that gross,
panicky feeling that you could see something really bad is
about to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I wonder if they have some type of emergency alert
system on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm sure they do, because usually when you go on
rides like that, you see the people have some kind
of like micro or like an intercom like a walkie
talkie situation or whatever. But yeah, that it's also weird
too because if I'm correct, that's their newer ship right,
Like it's it's only a year or two old. It's
not like this is a water slide that's been there
for ten years. It's a pretty new one.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I believe you're correct with it because it's I
think it's currently considered the largest active cruise liner, but
their new ship is bigger. Than that, and that's going
to be it's either about to launch or like it's
going to be ready in the next couple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So, I mean just because I feel like a couple
of incidents that we talked about have been with this
particular ship. But obviously I feel like it holds almost
double of what was on our ship.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So you're going to have Is this the same boat
as the other incident from the last couple of weeks
I believe, So, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
My god, I didn't even put that to I.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Think I think at least the the the one with
the with the person falling over the edge of the pool,
but that's like that was a human error too. And
oh the murder one, Yeah, that one too, I believe,
the one where the guy killed his the woman and
then yes, and then he like or he tried to
kill the woman and then he jumped overboard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, well I believe.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So, yeah, they need to really maybe put this boat
on boss and see what so much shy They should
hold crime con there because that would be like an
active investigation. The CRI have a whole entire on the
crime cruise, just have a whole entire time talking about
all the incidents that happened on that particular ship.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Kelly or Kevin, if you're listening, I think this is
the way you should get for the crime cruise.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
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This week, not in this particular episode, but just this
week on Mother No's death, we have a couple stories
of people who are pretending to be healthcare professionals when
they are not well.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
This was a particularly unusual one. So this guy was
found guilty of practicing medicine without a proper license after
it came out he was luring men to his apartment
for home genital exams. So this guy was seemingly a
resident in twenty twenty two when he was doing this,
and he joined this running group and had told the
(29:46):
men in his running group that he had to get
like so many hours doing ultrasounds to complete his education.
So they go to his house and agree to it,
and then he ends up examining their genitals, which they
say they didn't know what was going to happen, and
he videoed the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, so one of the guys went home and told
his wife film was like, that was kind of weird,
and then she agreed and they reported it and this
all came out. But I mean, so he was doing
ultrasounds on guys genitals and then video taping it and
then probably like doing something really disgusting after they left
(30:25):
with the videos.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, I mean they said totally separately. He stood trial
in April on a misdemeanor charge of voyeurism, but he
was acquitted and then this comes out later.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I just we say this all the time, especially with
people that are working in medicine. To be a medical
resident is not an easy thing to do. You know,
you have to go to four years of undergrad college
and then you have to do four years of medical school,
and then you have to get a residency. The whole
thing's highly competitive. You have to take tests in order
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to pass, to get through all of these these different
parts of medicine, and then you finally get a residency,
which is you're considered to be a doctor, but you
don't you're not an attending physician yet. You still have
to finish that and usually do fellowships afterwards. But to
think that a person would go through all this and
then do something like this. I can't even imagine that
(31:23):
if he was even allowed to finish his residency and
become an attending physician, that any place in their right
mind would hire somebody that's that's.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Done something like this. No, I highly doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I don't even know what his residency was in, but regardless,
it's just it's just really bizarre. And but I have
to tell you about some of the comments posted underneath
one guy I like, I really love the comments section
sometimes on just anything in general. Gabe and I always
(31:58):
send videos back and forth to each other, and it's
just like read the comments. There are some like true
comedic geniuses out there that just aren't aren't showing it
with some of the comments that people write. I mean,
this one's not like completely genius. I just thought it
was funny, but someone put great free handy no copay,
(32:18):
I'm in so funny, But I mean, the whole situation
is not funny. And the way that the story's written,
you're you're just like, Okay, what person in the right
mind would just go to someone's house to get this done?
But I could see I guess he was trying to
say that he was doing some kind of like research
(32:39):
or something to help people with their health, and he
wanted to do I don't know, Like, I guess you
could see how people fell for this, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean it must.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think it was one of those things too, where
it happens and you like, you're saying, this guy goes
home and talks to his wife about it, and he's like,
I feel weird about this, But do you also think
it's weird because it's like a really unusual situation. Because
I think everybody in their right mind wants to think
the best of everybody. You don't want to think that
a guy you were in a running group with just
(33:10):
took you back to his apartment and totally took advantage
of me for his own perverted needs.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And the wife was probably staring at him like, yeah,
that's weird. You know, when you hear it from from
being outside the situation, she was probably like.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What are you Like, of course he was. I just
think it's funny.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Remind me at a time that, uh, when we were
living in the city, Ricky went out to get us
coffees and he comes in the house and he goes
some guy just pulled a machete on me, and I
was like what, and he's like, yeah, he just he
just started screaming at me and pulled a machete on me,
and then you know, then he drove away because he
was in the car. And I'm like, Okay, well we
(33:49):
have to call the police. And he's like, I don't
really think it's that big of a deal, Like what
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, Like you're just like, that's I do think that
that's happened. Sometimes that you have an experience and you
don't really realize it's as bad as like someone hearing
the story outside does you know, It's just like a
weird thing people's brain does.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Because you know me, I immediately was like so upset
about it, and he was just like.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
What's the big deal? What are you talking about it?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You're like, that person probably shouldn't be going around the
city if.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like driving like a minivan.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The police whatn't even would they even came if you
called them? At that point?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
No, I I called and reported and they're like do
you have a license plate? And I was like no,
and they're basically like, well, what do you want us
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
What do you want them to do? Oh, you're in
the city of Philadelphia. There's millions of people, and you're like, oh,
there's a guy in South Philly in a minivan.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Like that's not helpful even a little bit, Like you
should you shouldn't even have bothered. All right, a shit,
let's talk.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So this case has been circulating the news with this
week about this this teenager which has just had an
incredibly sad ending, which unfortunately is what I suspected would happen.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, So he's eighteen years old. His name's Giovanni Pelatier.
So he was visiting Florida with his mother and her fiance,
hoping to reconnect with his dad's side of the family.
So his dad was in jail, but he had made
plans to meet up with his cousins. A couple of
days in the trip. The cousins pick him up at
one thirty in the morning. They said they were going
to be making a three hour trip back to where
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they lived. I guess on the other I think they
were on the Gulf side and the cousins lived on
the h the Atlantic side. So the kid gets picked
up one thirty in the morning and only twenty five
minutes later, texts the mom help, but she was sleeping
so she didn't see it until the next morning, and
he had texted a couple other family members for help too,
(35:40):
And by the time the mom wakes up and she
gets in contact, the kid is gone.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
She talks to the cousins. They're like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We were smoking weed and he pulled a knife out
and was acting crazy and he got out on the
side of the road, like totally against his character according
to the rest of the family. Yeah, And so when
I heard this, I was just like, you know, we've
talked about this with with weed in the past, and
just how some of it is a lot stronger, like
more potent strains of it, and especially with kids of
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this age, that there's this increased risk of psychosis happening
with marijuana that we've been seeing documented cases of. So
I'm wondering if it's something as simple as that, or
the weed had something else in it that was causing Like.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't think that it's that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It might not be untrue that he smoked something and
started having psychosis and it freaked the cousins out to
the point where they dropped him off and were like, yo,
because they don't really know him either, right.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, I it seems like the leading theory is that
they did something to him. But do you think if
he did smoke weed and it was we didn't do
psychosis that it would kick in in twenty five minutes.
I mean that seems pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I mean, you get I don't think that that's out
of the rama possibility at all. It gets especially smoking it,
it gets in your system so fast. I just they
you know, they're doing an autopsy, obviously they so they
so go go ahead and tell about how they found
the body and stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, so his phone and backpack were found on the
side of the road about an hour away, and then
they ended up finding his remains in a retention pond
off of I seventy five. But the family's mad because
they said the police had initially looked in that area
and did not find him, and it wasn't until later
when they had a private investigator look into it that
that person ended up finding him. So I also read
(37:41):
this morning that they want the FBI to get involved
because they just felt like they were blown off about
the search for the kid. He was missing for over
a week.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, the family has and I don't know what the
deal is with the private investigator, but the family has
definitely made it a point to make social media posts
to say like they are the ones that found the body,
not the police.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Really know how they I guess I mean obviously, like
I would do the same thing if I called the
police and they weren't really doing anything. And we hear
this from time to time on stories I we cover
on this show that especially if you call the police
and say you can't get a hold of an eighteen
year old, they don't really take that seriously unless the
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person's missing for X amount of days or something. And
it's unfortunate because technically an eighteen year old as an adult,
but it's if you're a mother, that's still your baby
and you know how they act. And I feel like
with the text messages that said help me, that should
have maybe had police take it more seriously, because it's
(38:46):
not just like, oh, I can't get a hold of
this kid, like he literally was like helped me. And
the whole situation is he's with people that I'm not
sure that he ever met before that. The whole thing
is weird anyway, Like who pays someone up for a
family of reunion at one thirty in the morning to
drive three hours across the state. Of course, the mother
(39:07):
was sleeping, because like that's what people do in the
middle of the night, is sleep. Yeah, but I do
think that it has I mean, his body was found decomposed, unfortunately,
which is terrible way if the family was involved and
saw him that way. But they're saying it doesn't look
like there was any foul play yet, So to me,
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it's like, well, he doesn't look like he was shot,
he doesn't look like he was stabbed, and he doesn't
look like he was beat up. But like, obviously they
have to do the autopsy and do X rays and
do the internal examine to toxicology. But I understand that
they're saying that it looks like the cousins did something
to him, but very well their story could be legit
that he was just I mean, listen, they're gonna be
(39:51):
I assume that they can be charged with with something
because if he was having some kind of a mental condition,
you can't just drop especially he's not from there or anything.
You can't just drop a person off at the side
of the road and like, let let them fend from
themselves when they're in that situation.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I'm really curious to see what the autopsy's gonna
show up, like turn up, because I think that's gonna
you know, I'm hoping it's straightforward because if it's not
inconclusive or whatever, could it be inconclusive because of the
state of his body. I'm saying that because I could
see it. If it doesn't give a clear cut answer
as to what happened, is turning into a really sensationalized I.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Think that he was decomposed, but I don't know that
he like how decomposed he was. I mean, he was
only missing for like not too long, right, he was
missing over a week, And it's ford they'll still be
able they'll still be able to see a lot of
things with the autopsy, like, for example, if he was
in any kind of a fight, they'll they'll sometimes they
(40:54):
could still see the hemorrhage in this off tissue, but
they'll definitely be able to see if there's any kind
of broken bones or any kind of wounds on the
bones that would indicate that he was stabbed or something
like that. And obviously if he was shot the same thing,
so they'll they'll be able to tell, and they'll also
be able to get some fluid for toxicology to see
(41:14):
what's going on there. I mean, we'd we like we're
saying weed's potent and stuff right now, which could just
happen with like regular weed. But weed is laced with
shit all the time too, knowingly and unknowingly. So I mean,
if you're if you're buying it obviously from like a
legit pharmacy around here, you're good as far as it
(41:36):
not having some other kind of drug mixed in with it,
but you could have like angel dust, PCP, anything like
that inside it, which is also a hallucinogen. And like, honestly,
I'm not I don't want to say, because the whole
situation's weird, But you just can't blame either side right
now because we don't know anything. But I mean, if
I picked up a cousin that I've been talking to
(41:59):
on Facebook for a couple of years that I never
met in real life, and we decided to smoke weed
together and they pulled a knife out and started acting crazy,
I might want to drop them off at the side
of the road too, like.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Well, you know what, you know, if that's what happened,
what happens, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
We don't. But I just hope that they stay open
minded in situations like that because we don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, And I hope the family just gets the answers
they need, like cause I just see it the potential
for it to end up being like a Karen Reid
type of thing, like there's not conclusive answers to what happened.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Is going to be like this from now on because
of the Internet, no, I know.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
So hopefully the autopsy is conclusive and they get answers
so they can try try to find peace with it,
you know, because it's a tragedy, all right. So this
video is going around where this woman is claiming that
when she got pregnant, her face just became completely unrecognizable.
So in this video she shows before and after pictures,
(42:55):
and this video has gotten millions of views, one hundred
and sixteen million views, and so many people are Obviously
people are interested in it because she looks drastically different
from picture one to picture two, but also so many
people are like, yeah, you don't look like that, so
(43:16):
we don't even we don't even believe you right now
and then, so she said she's not posting about it
anymore because she's gotten so much backlash over it. So
I went on her TikTok page because yes, the before
picture they use is extremely face tuned. I mean, it's
impossible to tell what this person really looks like, but
when you do go look at other videos of her,
(43:38):
I could see what she kind of looked like minus
all the filters beforehand. I don't think she had this
drastic situation going on her face before she claims she
got pregnant.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Great, I agree, like I think, and I don't know,
is that is the picture that's in this article, the
one that she was using to be like, this is
what I looked like before, and this.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Is what I look like now.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, in the video that is, But I don't think
that was an accurate representation.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It absolutely wasn't. Like when I looked at that, I'm
just like, she looks she looks like one of those
like an anime care, like an anime care just.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Because it's so it's there's like settings on face tune
and they were just clearly turned all the way up.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
It's like the ninety chick, And this is just.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Like something I want to talk about in general, because
like all of these people are are putting these pictures
like on their profile and they're like, is that girl
legitimately think that that's what she looked like? Because she
didn't look like that, And you're trying to tell us
that's what you look like, and like, you don't look
like that.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
The thing that I thought was weird though, is if
you go through her page, the other content she has
is not as heavily filtered like that. So I don't
understand why that was the reference point. Maybe she's just
a social media genius and she used that one because
she knew it would get a lot of debate in
her a lot of views.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well yeah, exactly, and that could totally be possible. But
I do think that there there are people though, that
try to pass that off.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Is that is that what that's what they look like?
And that's what I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That chick from ninety Day Fiance Darcy, I mean Teresa
gu Jidas from Real House West in New Jersey, she
does it that extreme and it's like, what is happening?
You're on television?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
People, you could tell yeah, but you could tell us
that that's what you look like. And like, god, Chloe
Kardashian was doing it hardcore a couple of years ago,
and they're just like, dude, you could sit there and
tell us that that's what you look like, but you don't.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Look like that.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
It's I hate those I hate those filters. I hate
any filter, honestly, Like I just think it's I was
very happy when I met someone in Atlanta and they
were like, you look exactly the same, and I'm like, yeah,
cause I I don't put a weird filter on my face,
Like this is what I look like in real life.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Take it or leave it, like anyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So we're so when you look at what she really
looks like and then what she looks like in pregnancy,
it's still very drastic, but it's also believable because when
you're pregnant, lots of different things go on with your body,
and you could talk about this, like, just talk to.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
So many women.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
And actually, I wanted to tell you guys, if you
guys have any stories of like crazy things that happen
to your body when you're pregnant, you could always email
us and let us know, because I think we're going
to start doing some emails on top of the questions
that we do at the end of this episode, just
because we want to hear your stories as well. But so,
(46:37):
when you're pregnant, a couple different things happen, and one
is when you get towards the end of pregnancy, after
thirty weeks, you actually start making more blood in your body,
which is really cool that women can do this, and
it's kind of like this evolutionary thing because there's so
much blood lost doring childbirth, So you have this increase
(46:58):
of blood in your body not only for that but
just to help this growing parasite inside of your body.
And you also have an increase of estrogen, which dilates
the blood vessels as well. So in your nose, for example,
you know when you're sick and your nose just gets
kind of swollen, it's it's very red, and it just
(47:20):
looks like it's bigger than it normally is. That's because
your nose is just different than the skin on your cheek,
for example, because you have all of these mucus cells
and everything underneath of that, and when all of that
gets angry and inflamed, it could just make it seem
like it's larger because on your cheeks like you have fat,
but in your nose there's not really fat or anything.
(47:41):
So and you're staring in the mirror and you're looking
and it's just like, Okay, this looks huge compared to
how it did look. So there's not an official condition
called pregnancy nose, but lots of different women have experienced it,
and it's something that, like legit can be explained physiologically
what's going on in a preguate body. And then so
(48:02):
that would explain why her nose looks so much larger.
And then she also looks like she has pregnancy acne
as well.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, but it's not like a couple pimples. It's it
looks like she has an insane rash on her face.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, so, I mean this is what you So people
that get pregnancy acne are usually people that if you
get it like in the first week of your period,
you're more likely to get it in the first trimester
of pregnancy, and then you could carry on with it
throughout the rest of your pregnancy. And the problem is
is if you're I mean, like some people like you
(48:37):
and I for example, are people that get like a
ZiT here or there, but some people that have full
on acne. If you've seen people that have it really
severe as a teenager, they have to go on some
pretty hardcore medications to really treat it and get rid
of it. And if you're prone to that, you can
get which I'm not.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
This is just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I'm just making I'm not trying to diagnose her by video,
but I am at the same time, like her skin
without the filter looks like she had an acne problem
at some point in her life. She just has like
scars that would be consistent with acne. So now she's pregnant,
she's at an increased risk of getting it again. And
you can't take like the acutine. I don't even know
if acutine is the proper or you can't take anymore,
(49:22):
but you can't take any anny, So that could be
why it just looks extra angry, or whatever she was
doing to treat it could just make her skin like
it looks like she's got full blown acne on her face,
but on top of that it looks very swollen and angry,
which just makes it look more drastic. So I I
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don't believe that that part of the story is fake
even a little bit, like that photo looks like something
that could really happen, and it is even strikingly different
from her real appearance, and lots of like I could
tell you, like my feet got bigger when I was pregnant.
There's just like different things that happen to everyone's body.
(50:03):
So I am curious if you've guys have had anything
like that. I don't really recall my nose getting bigger,
but I do know that my nose gets like it
was big last week because my nose was like super
inflamed because of allergies and stuff. So like you've noticed
that right on yourself, Like yeah, like you know when
(50:24):
you get that like weird like burning in the tip
of your nose and like the snot is like pouring
out of your face.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, like when I'm sick. I've definitely noticed. Yeah, so
it's kind of a similar thing.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
It's like being pregnant must be hard enough, and then
you have to deal with all this other bullshit too.
It just seems really unfair, it really is.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
There's there's lots of I had a friend that got
a really crazy rash on her arms, being pregnant and
it left like permanent scarring on her arms. There's like
there's a lot of things that could happen. That's why
when people used to be a surrogate, I'm always like,
that's like pregnancy isn't considered just like a benign kind
of condition your body goes under.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's a lot, no, But you.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Know, there's like people like mo Mom that are like
I felt the best I ever did when I was pregnant,
and I just I mean, I haven't been so like
I just can't imagine that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Be my experience.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
But like I feel like I don't know, you could
speak for your own pregnancies, but I feel like witnessing
you it wasn't like the best experience of your life.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, I mean, there were definitely good parts of it
because I didn't get any headaches the entire time I
was pregnant, which was awesome. Like I didn't get my
period obviously when I was pregnant, So those things are
are always a positive. But like there's just so many
other things that happened, like and I was I was
(51:47):
kind of fine, Like I never got sick with the
throwing up and all that stuff. I never had that ever,
And some people like really go through it and feel terrible,
but I was opposite, Like as far as like my
appetite went, I was never nauseous and like definitely feeding
for two, if not five.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
So you were on a big, big meg kick with Lilian.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, big, like, oh my god, it's just terrible and
cupcakes and just like terrible. I gained so much weight,
and I remember my obstetrician was like, oh, why don't
why don't we send you to a nutritionist because you're
we have to see why you're gaining so much weight.
And I was just like I eat like two donuts
(52:32):
every day for breakfast, and like like I know why
I'm gaining weight. There's no one that's going to tell
me how to change my diet. I know that I can.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I just don't want to because I just want to
eat everything in sight. It was terrible.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
All right, Let's move on to Questions of the Day.
Every Friday, at the A Mother Knows Death Instagram account,
you guys can head over to our story and ask
whatever you want. First, could you do anything within CSI
or the lab while being colorblind?
Speaker 1 (52:59):
So this is a this is actually a really good question.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
So I believe I went to cytology school such a
long time ago, back in two thousand. I do recall
them giving off the color blind test, and I do
recall it being an issue if you were a colorblind.
I didn't have any particular students in my class that were.
(53:23):
But especially when you're doing cytology and you're looking at
cells under the microscope and you really need to know
if because some of the cytoplasm turns different colors in
certain situations, and you really need to know. You really
need to be able to accurately see the colors in
order to see different changes in the cells. So I
(53:45):
would say, depending on what kind of color blindness you had,
you would not be able to be a cytotechnologist for sure,
I believe you. I don't see why it would be
a problem in the other parts of the lab, like
the clinical laboratory. If you're a medical technologist doing like
hematology or blood bank or something like that, I don't
see that being a problem.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Being a PA, you definitely should be able to.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Recognize different colors and the disease process for certain situations.
But I still don't think that that would be considered
a deal breaker because you could just see other things
associated with it.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I mean, we we have to describe the colors of
things sometimes, but I don't know if it's that that
that important as it is. Was psychology so and then
cs I I I'm not sure exactly because I don't
I never worked in that field. But I'm missing l Yeah,
we could, we could ask Cheryl for sure. I'm just
(54:50):
I'm assuming no, like you should be fine, you know,
I don't. I don't think that you would be like
excluded for that.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
So, but that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
All right. If a loved one passed away, would I
be able to request to keep a tooth? So you
I listen, if you ever want something like that, you could.
That would be something that I would recommend that you
ask the funeral home. I feel like because of what
happened with David Scoonce, I don't think they're allowed to
(55:26):
take teeth.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Out anymore now. I don't they could, But that has
nothing to do with.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Like, if you have a written permission for him from
a family, that's why wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Do that, because then he would fake a written permission for.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Who?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Remember they were taking all the people's teeth out for
their fillings and stuff. I feel like after that some
regulation was passed where they're not allowed to remove things
like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
I don't know if that's true. I really don't know
what happens in the funeral home. I could just tell
you we've had a couple of situations like that.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
People.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
The only thing that we would ever give back to
a family is like if a person was wearing like
a wedding ring or something. I would never ever cut
off a body part and give it to a family member.
But we've had requests like can I have a lock
of this person's hair or something like that, and we
just say, we're sending the body to the funeral home
and you could deal. They could deal with that, Like
(56:21):
that's nothing that we would ever do. And I suppose
that the funeral home has the ability to pull out
a tooth, but like they really, I mean they could.
They could use a pair of pliers, honestly, like it
would work. But there's like Maria was talking about this
case of the Lamb Funeral Home. What was the name
(56:44):
of that documentary on Netflix? Yeah, The more Titian on HBO,
The Mortician on HBO. There's never a situation that I
could foresee that a funeral home would have to take
out someone's teeth. But also people have sometimes people have
like a grill, or they have like gold in their teeth.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
And people might they might have a gold tooth with
an initial that somebody would want to keep. And I
don't I don't see what the problem is if the
family requests that getting that, it just would have to
be documented properly. And I mean, I'd love to just
talk to a funeral director and hear some of the
weird requests that people have, because I'm sure it's I'm
(57:26):
sure people have asked for legit body parts, like who knows,
you know, it's just people. People have some weird requests.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So all right, less, what's an important quality you try
to instill in your kids?
Speaker 1 (57:40):
I didn't even really think about this.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
I obviously I have lots of life lessons. So now
they're so now they're approaching being teenagers, so like a
huge one is And I think that this was with
Maria too. Was just trying to have them have like
a true establishment of their self and not going along
(58:03):
with what everyone is going along with which is hard
because I feel like it's even it's even worse now, right,
Like Gabe and I went to the boardwalk recently, and
you're just like you're walking on the boardwalk and you
see all these kids that, like, you don't even know
where they're from. They could be from around here, they
could be from Philly, or they could be from another state, town, country,
(58:27):
even lots of people come from Canada and stuff. And
Gabe was just like, all these kids are dressed the same,
like from all over because they all they all do
Pinterest and they all do TikTok and Instagram, so that
they all like look the same, right, And I guess
something could be said about that from it's a little
(58:48):
bit different than when we were kids. But like, there
was definitely a part in the eighties where it was
like everyone was dressing like Madonna and everybody was dressing
like Debbie Gibson and all the you know, just things
like that. But it almost is interesting to think about
having let's say, for example, back in the eighties, like
kids from California versus kids from New Jersey, where like
(59:11):
they all dressed the same and it probably would not
be the same just because regionally.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
You only know what you know and.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
What you see on TV basically, so, but it's not
it's not just about the clothes and everything though. It's
just about because that transfers over into them when they
get older, like their friends having sex and their friends
doing drugs and their friends drinking and stuff.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Really try to say that to them all the time,
just like you do what you want to do and
be who you are and don't change for any of
your friends or to fit in. And I think that's
that's hard, like a hard lesson, don't you think so?
Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, because it's easier to just go with the flow,
oh obviously, and just.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Like stupid things like when and everyone's guilty of it
to a certain extent throughout their life. And it's just
like certain things when I got older and I was
in college and everyone wanted to go to the bar
and go drinking, and I'd be like, okay, and then
I would go and I would just be miserable all night,
and then I would think something was wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I'd be like, I.
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Really wish like all these people are drinking and having
fun and like I'm just like I hate this so bad.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Why do.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I hate this so bad, and really I should have
just been like, you know what, like been honest with myself.
That's not for me, and I don't want to do that.
I'm going to stay home when you guys go out.
I'll be happier being home. Just there's nothing well, but
like sometimes you're worried that people are gonna like judge you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
For that, you know, because you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
On a similar note to that, because we're very similar
with drinking stuff, Like it took me until you know,
my late twenties really in the last couple of years
to just be like, if I do go out, I
don't have to drink because everybody else is drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it's like a it's like a peer pressure thing
in a way even, and it just it takes a
lot for you to be strong enough to just be like, no,
this is what I want to do, and I don't
have to do with all you are doing, and we
could all still hang out and be friends.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Like it's just a matter of like really not caring
what other people think of you. And it's hard to
live like that. It really is hard to live like that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
And when you're a little kid like my kid's age,
it's hard, like you're you're kind of you're desperate for friends.
Desper you just want to have friends because it's the
center of your life right now. As friends and who
they make friends with is very important as to how
they grow up and who they surround themselves with. And listen,
(01:01:50):
We've had a couple of situations where kids have been
like they just suck and you I have to sit
there and talk to the kids and just be like, listen,
like would you Because Lilian especially has the best friend
that like is just the best, right, and she's now
the comparison for every other person that she becomes friends with.
When she has problems with other friends, I just say, like,
(01:02:12):
would you fight with so and so like this? Would
they ever say that to you? Would they ever treat
you like this? And you just have to There's just
a lot to teach them about having respect for themselves
now and what they tolerate and how they tolerate being treated,
because I feel like that bleeds into them dating and
(01:02:32):
that's when shit could get really bad, like them taking
shit from a guy or a girl whoever they decide
to date, like not being treated well because that could
go all the way into adulthood and their marriage and
everything else. So it's just like it all goes together,
you know, And that's like, I guess that's the biggest
thing is that I just am trying to work on,
like them being confident in themselves and like who they're
(01:02:56):
being friends with.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
On a funny side note about dressing in the eighties
and being trendy, I think I want to show our
YouTube people this picture of momm in the eighties in
her hair where it looks like she was electrocuted, but
she claims that it was perfectly on brand and trendy
for the time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But look at this, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Wait, Like, okay, so how old am I in that picture?
I was in That was when she was trying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
To show the extended picture, so this is you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I hated that fricking crown too. So this was in
nineteen eighty seven. She was pregnant with Louis, which means
that I was eight years old.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
She was in that photograph. She's thirty. Put it back up,
she said, she was thirty. Yeah, she's my age in
this picture.
Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Just put it back up. Ricky said, she looked like
Marv from the Woods.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Like her hair is seriously a solid six inches.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
If it was the trending hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I'm like, there's just no way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Why does she look better approaching seventy than she did
when she was thirty?
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Like, really, we.
Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Really should do a photo montage of some of her
best looks. I nobody wanted to do this, but on
the cruise, I was like, for dinner, we should do
the Chris Jenner thing and all dressed like one of
her outrageous outfits.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I wouldn't want to do that. You know, you should
do it with that picture.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
You should put it in like an AI program and
put a normal haircut on her and be like you,
like you would have been like the hottest chick ever
if you just had normal hair. She always let me
let me see pop up next next to her. He
looks exactly the same, So he was like, forty up, Yeah,
he really does look exactly the same. He's just like
(01:04:51):
not like collar her. Her head is like bigger than
the entire picture. It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I literally cannot.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'm kind of like jealous at her hair could even
get that big, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Like, what is even happening there.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I bet you we get it techulated. That says humpers.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, she calls she calls us humpers, and that was. Wait,
I should find that that conversation was like a little
bit we don't get understand.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Completely unhinge that conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I'm trying to look for it, like in one of
our family group chats, like a family group chat. I'm
trying to because that was kind of a while ago.
But oh wait, this might be it. So we don't
even know where she got that. So she calls us,
she calls us humpers because we were like making fun
of her over something, because my brother and sister also
(01:05:44):
make fun of her all the time too. So then
I send her back this screenshot that I took from
that remember that website Urban Dictionary, and it says humper.
A morbid, obese man who is obsessed with humping random
objects around is home. He spends most of his time
in his bathroom humping the shower curtain. He also fantasizes
(01:06:06):
about a Hispanic girl named Vanessa watching him as he
humps the objects. Oh what fun he has? And she right,
she writes back and puts you ruin everything, like I'm
the problem here right now, right?
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
It was?
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
And then I said, I'm sorry, does it have a
nicer meeting? And she's like, it's a term of endearment,
like she claims it's.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Some British term of endearment.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Okay, Well, any anybody from the UK that's listening, please
fill us in to what humper means because we have
no idea and it just doesn't sound right coming out
of an old lady's mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
So your guy's favorite guest, Bequall's aka momm calls all
of her children and grandchildren humpers. A man that humps
inanimate objects, shower curtains. Real nice, All right, guys. We
will be in crime Con from September fifth to the seventh.
This schedule is a fish out. You guys have to
check it out. It is so outrageous. I like, we
(01:07:03):
are geeking out over half the sessions. We can't wait
to be there. If you have a review for us,
please leave it on Apple or Spotify and subscribe to
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mothernosdeath dot com. Is that where they could also send
us comments too, Yeah, they could send us their own
personal experiences comments, whatever they want to that email. You
(01:07:24):
know what else too, I want to say like if
I mean, we would like to say your name, if
you're okay with that, but just like I guess just
let us know if you want to be anonymous or not.
But but yeah, we have we really want to like
share some of your stories and stuff, so that would
be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Yeah, we will see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
All right, sayah, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and if
not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the
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assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
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people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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